This game is terrible

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is not that bad but I'm okay with being revisionist about it
everything that is cancer about ME3 started with this game including retarded normies that think the only thing bad about 3 was the ending

>>387255424
To be clear I think ME1 was good but ME2 seems so janky and poorly made in many areas.

>>387255112
More like shitty series, one piece of dlc was the closest it ever got in terms of having some interesting and dark science fuckery.

>>387255112
>>387255812
kys faggots

>>387255869
Explain how I'm wrong.

>>387255967
Nice argument you have there you dumb nigger.

I like to think that everyone dieing in the suicide mission is the true ending of the series

>>387255112
Sure is

>>387256402
>I like to think that everyone dieing in the suicide mission is the true ending of the series
Nah, the series should've ended with ME1

I think what really shocked me is that I expected mediocrity since it turned it into a TPS with little to no RPG elements. But I didn't expect:

>worse animations than ME1
>worse combat than ME1
>worse interface than ME1
>worse voice acting than ME1
>worse soundtrack than ME1
etc.

ME1 > ME3 > ME2

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>>387255112
>Liara only as DLC
of course it was shite

>>387255967
Biodrone

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>>387255112
>people forget the simple joys of Shepard being unnecessarily dickish
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PjTuSQNLI4

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Yup. Ruined the atmosphere of 1, the plot is fucking retarded, and the side quests are all dealing with people's fucking daddy issues.

All traded for marginally improved combat.

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>>387255812
Why was Fallout the only sci-fi rpg to actually be creative? Nothing ever used interplay/ Obsidians worldbuilding with science horror.

Oh my fuck the low health screen filter is TERRIBLE

Man I wish they had done more alien planets in andromeda, instead of literally just random desert and other boring shit.

Like why not a city floating in the sky of a planet like venus.

Look at all you edgy cunts here. Mass effect 1, 2 and 3 are Masterpieces, the only thing that let's 3 down is it's ending. But otherwise they are all great.

Andromeda on the other hand is a spew of dog shite.

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>>387256828
>>387255112
>couldn't fuck Samara, Aria, and Liara without dlc

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>>387259640
>fuck Aria
wut?

>>387259535
>2
>masterpiece
come on man, the story didnt progress and was totally retarded. everything got streamlined and most of the characters dont have any significant roles in 3.

>>387259535
ME2 was souless garbage, didn't even feel like Mass Effect.

>>387255424
>retarded normies that think the only thing bad about 3 was the ending
That never ceases to annoy me.
I can only assume this meme spread because they ignored everything bad until the ending, which was the point they couldn't lie to themselves any more

>>387255112

1 > 2 > 3

ME 3 is fucking shit.

>>387259771
Aria kisses you in one of the dlcs for 2 or 3 but I never played any of Mass Effect dlc.

>>387255112
>Sovereign was amassing an army to take the citadel, and utilised several strike teams to aid Saren and stop Shepard
>Completely ignores the small army of indoctrinated servants with vastly superior tech to everyone else in the galaxy
>or the Reaper AI already in the citadel
The writers or even playing ME1 was depressingly obvious

>>387260553
She kisses you in the ME3 Omega DLC if you go full renegade

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>>387260454
nah, its really nice apart the last 10 minutes.
combat is the best in the series, priority missions are pure kino and it has you more invested than helping some literal who's with their personal crap.

>>387260553
yeah she kisses you in the omega dlc, but no sexing allowed unfortunatly.

>>387255112
Wrong as fuck

ME2 is 9/10
ME1 is 8/10
ME3 is 6-7/10

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2 wasn't so bad, it had interesting ideas like the Illusive Man and Cerberus. Of course they fucking ruined it in the third game by removing any kind of nuance or moral grey areas and just made them pointless villains.

Other than that and the DLC though, yeah, it was an entire game of filler. I'm pretty sure you could jump from ME1 to ME3 without suffering plot confusion.

>>387260953
>ME2 is 9/10
Oh boy, here we go...

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Everyone that ranks 2 higher than the other games romanced the used up Michael Jackson clone.
Prove me wrong.

>>387256595
>worse combat
Name one thing wrong other than adept gutting

>>387255112
It has its moments, but the main plot is definitely shit.

>>387261190
It became completely cover based with no real way of fighting any other way.

Even with Geth Shield boost, you can't stay out of cover for more than 3 seconds without getting completely raped.

Why did they make the Citadel WORSE through each game?

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>>387260953
>ME2 is 8/10
>ME1 is 7/10
>ME3 is 6/10
ftfy senpai

Should I get into the mass effect series? I tried playing 1, but the combat was boring as hell at the start and I wound up playing other stuff.

>>387261190
ME1's combat was based around a more strategic RPG mindset. You use the techniques you put points into and then carefully assign abilities in order to overcome enemies. Yes there was shooting, but it was tempered by how high your Pistol/whatever stat was. It's like Morrowind: you aren't guaranteed a shot just because you lined it up.

ME2 by comparison is Oblivion, allowing any braindead fucktard the chance at being a spez marine.

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>>387264240
>ME1 combat
>strategic

>>387264572
The fact is that you needed to use the command menu in ME1 to assign the specific abilities. In ME2 it's a weird, pointless menu.

>>387255112
report to the ship as soon as possible.

>>387264656
I liked the adrenaline ability for the soldier class, giving constant headshots in slow mo with the pistol.

>>387255112

You guys have awful taste. I'm sure you all like that horseshit Witcher 3 fuckery, too.

>>387255112
Haven't played ME3 but I enjoyed both 1 and 2. I liked the depth of 1, but I also enjoyed the faster pace and more action oriented approach of 2. I've been wanting to replay both and finally play the 3rd using the same Shep.

Is Adept any good in 3? It was my favorite class in the first two.

I liked mass effect 2

Tuchunka was always a fucking chore in that game though

>>387255112
it's legit one of the worst games of the previous generation

If it wasn't for the ninja, the green gay assassin, the kid and the ending and the unaffordable DLC it would have been fine.

So, it's totally not fine.

ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL

>>387265179
Prove it

>>387255424
>>387260328
I think everything was pretty good until around the time Kai Leng shows up.
Kai Leng being one of the worst things in ME aside, everything else seemed to take a nosedive alongside his introduction coincidentally.

>>387255112
Best game of the series, actually.

>>387265219
Do you not like Thane

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The best things about ME2 were the loyalty missions, the main plot was very lackluster and felt very inconsequential compared to the stakes in ME1.
One of the few redeeming factors about it was the Illusive Man.

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>>387256828
>>387259640
>fucking anyone who isn't Tali

>>387260953
Nah

ME1= 7/10
ME2= 9/10
ME3=5/10
Andromeda=3/10

>>387261105
It was the best part of the trilogy and i cried fo 10 minutes after suicide mission

>>387265859
>loyalty mission

Jacob's was surprisingly dark with his dad and the brainwashed harem

>>387266164
Yeah, especially when you tell him to kill himself.

>>387255112
I really missed the exploration element of the first game, it's a shame they didnt improve on that and went full linear shooter.

>>387255112

Yup. The writing is dumb as fuck. Just look at the beginning.
>Shephard is resurrected despite body's reentry
>Council ignoring Saren attack. Even if you don't want to believe in machine gods, Saren and the Geth still had a "ship" that outclassed the anything the Citadel had. Should still be a big deal
>Only one person sounds the alarm about Shephard being ambushed and killed after fight off Saren by another high advanced ship
>Liara tells no one about her discoveries, not even non-Liara romance partner

>>387267184
>Shephard is resurrected despite body's reentry
This is fucking ridiculous. How do you even revive a braindead person?

>>387267184
>>Shephard is resurrected despite body's reentry
this is the worst offender because it was such a poorly handled excuse to get Shepard to seperate from his crew while putting him in Cerberus hands

>it's a "Mass Effect 1 fan hates the other games" thread
ME1 fans are the worst part of the ME fanbase, giving it pardons on every little thing and pretending that it was perfect in every way when in truth it's janky as fuck. In terms of gameplay mechanics ME2 was generally superior.

Mass effect 2 is the best one

ME1 is good but a clumsy chore to play, ME3 is american cheesy military bullshit with boring quests

You start me2 with shepherd getting fucking boned by mysterious collectors that you know literally nothing about & feel like a genuine threat. You have the best locations like Normandy, you have the best crew with the best quest missions. You have genuine dilemma with shepherd unsure if he's right to work with cerberus.

You don't really see any of that in the others. Me3 has shit like the fucking asian retard, illusive man turns into a normie bad guy, you have fucking edi turning into a sex robot, the crew are all gays now, although we have that cool medic woman now so that's cool. The salarian doctor commits soduku. You have the female krogans turning out to be Islamic veil mystery bitches. The only part of me3 I liked was the quarian/geth arc ut it didn't save it from being boring.

>>387266132
Gameplay:
>guns use ammunition
>abilities have shared cooldown
>biotics don't affect shielded/armored targets
>grenades only through ability
>ammo mods only through ability
>hacking minigames can't be avoided by spending omni-gel
>planet scanning instead of exploring them
Yes, yes. I bet you hate the Mako, but it's still better than mindless planet scanning. Also no excuse that they simply removed the whole feature instead of improving it.

Story:
>kill MC in the first few minutes and bring him/her back from the dead, because who needs death to have any meaning
>Cerberus transformed from a rogue special ops/terrorist group to a galactic power with seemingly unlimited ressources
>Shepard never questions the morality of his resurrection (even if you admitted to Ashley that you're religious as well)
>railroaded into working for Cerberus
>no clearly defined goal once you know about the Collectors involvement
Going through the Omega 4 relay doesn't count, when nobody can tell you what to do other than destroy them
>the presence of about half the squadmembers doesn't even make sense
>daddy issues
>terminator baby
>Harbinger

Yes, now I see. ME2 is truly the pinnacle of the Mass Effect series.

>>387268502
I think fighting bugs was kinda gay

As long as you're still mad I'm still winning.

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>>387256964
>I have nothing more to say to you
>How about, goodbye?

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>>387268638
>Also no excuse that they simply removed the whole feature instead of improving it
ME2 was supposed to have proper planet exploration but it was cut due to time constraints. Thanks EA

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>>387268330
The opening sequence of the game is unironically kino as fuck and I love it, but yeah it makes absolutely no sense. Just feels like a weird excuse to let the player reclass their old character.

>>387268638
Meanwhile in ME1

>animations are particularly stiff
>garbage inventory system
>broken skill system (DUDE IMMUNITY LMAO)
>Mako is a piece of shit (planet scanning being bad doesn't make the Mako good)
>all the planets aside from ones tied to the main quest are copypasta
>most of the optional indoor areas are also copypasta (IT'S OK WHEN MASS EFFECT DOES IT!"
>broken cover system (yes, it had one, it was just so mechanically bad and mostly unnecessary that no one used it)

While the story is generally better in ME1, the universe is arguably better fleshed out in 2. Note that for all this huge universe you have and these alien races, you don't really see much of them. The only major 'city' area is Citadel, with the other smaller areas mainly being human settlements. We don't see shit about how the other races live or function until ME2.

Also, even with the rampant daddy issues, ME2's party members were overall much better than 1's. Also shit on Harbinger all you want, but in truth Sovereign wasn't really any better and the whole "YOU CANNOT COMPREHEND US" thing isn't cool or deep or interesting, it's just a cop-out of having to explain anything. In fact that's largely why the story of ME1 comes across better; they didn't have to explain much, since they could leave that to the later games.

>>387268502
>mysterious collectors that you know literally nothing about & feel like a genuine threat
but there was already an established threat
>best locations like the normandy
wasn't a fan of the way the normandy looked, everything look too bright and sterile as opposed to the dark blues and comfy background music in ME1's.
>best crew and best missions
agree, just wish they related to the main plot in someway
>genuine dilema with shepard and cerberus
it never goes anywhere though

>>387268502
>by mysterious collectors that you know literally nothing about & feel like a genuine threat
Good thing they invented the Collectors, because the ME universe seriously lacked a mysterious enemy
>You have the best locations like Normandy
What does that even mean? You had the SR-1 in ME1 as well. Or do you mean the SR-2 is better than the SR-1?
As for the other locations: You had big hubworlds on Feros, Noveria and of course the Citadel. ME2's hubworlds seem puny when compared to them.
>you have the best crew
They are a colourful bunch, I'll give you that. Even when I don't know what most of them are even doing here
>best quest missions
Solving daddy issues?
>You have genuine dilemma with shepherd unsure if he's right to work with cerberus
Too bad that Shepard still gets railroaded into working for them. You can say that you don't trust them, but that's all you can do and in the end it never matters. You still do what TIM says without second guessing

>>387255112
Alright /v/, question:

Was Biotic Charge a good idea?

I know the vast majority of people including myself think it's fun as fuck in terms of gameplay, but in relation to the style of a tactics based game and just the lore of biotics in general, I've never felt like it fit in at all.

>>387269671
Also forgot to add, TIM was more interesting than Saren, at least until ME3.

>>387269725
What the fuck else were they gonna use for villans? Reaper flat hadn't landed yet, hadn't indoctrinated an army yet. What would you have rather seen? Another game fighting nothing but Geth yet again?

I don't know why I typed Normandy, Normandy in me1 was the best one. I meant to say Omega.

>>387269931
I don't know anon, everyone was using tech to shoot space ships all over the galaxy so it would make sense to shrink that tech down and apply it in a combat situation.

>>387255112
I agree 100% and it was about the time of me2 to I realized bioware can only write quippy banter and not a decent story to save their lives. It seriously bothered the fuck out of me that in 2 you not only die at the start but also you never recruit other spectres. The entire point of you becoming one was to help humanity have more of a chance in the universe and to handle the major problems of the falaxy at the councils whims. This is utterly wrote off in one dialogue section and then we are left with a bunch of whocares by terrorist organization that brought us back to life. In one moment they managed to esssentially make everything you worked for meaningless including the spectre status. What a shit game.

>>387255112
it was a bad sequel to mass effect 1 but man if you get good at the combat it's a fucking intense as fuck fucking game.