Your move, Mario.

With all the hype and positive words said about Sonic Mania, I'm seriously considering picking it up. However, I have no idea how to play a Sonic game.

They've always been confusing to me. Are you trying to acquire and hang onto as many rings as possible, or do they not really matter outside of lives?

Are you trying to complete levels as fast as possible or are you supposed to regularly stop and explore? The focus on speed in the game is a little confusing to me, as it seems like you'll be quickly ushered through gigantic parts of the game in the name of speed. Are you expected to kind of backtrack and explore the area that you just zoomed through?

Should you be seeking out every TV to smash? What rewards do these garner? What about enemies? Should you be trying to kill them all or is it okay to just run past them?

What do you need to do to acquire the giant ring (no idea if that's what it's called)? What makes it invisible/unattainable and what unlocks the ability to acquire it? What's the benefit of acquiring the giant ring?

I have other questions, but I guess I'll just leave it at that for now.

>>387252468
Yes.

>>387252268
Have you forgotten that Sonic Forces is still coming out?

>>387252268
Why lie on the internet, anon?

>>387252468
Play it how you want; it's a video game

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No.

>>387252720
Fake news

>>387252468
Sounds like you've figured out what many of us have known for years... That Sonic games are terrible.

>>387252268
Did you just copy BotW score? lol

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You just hold onto rings so you don't die. But it's good to get 100 as you get an extra life. Life's are always helpful.

You can go fast or explore. Either or. Im going slow and exploring my first playthrough. Next time I'll probably speed through. It's up to you. The games have many multiple routes so it encourages lots of replayability. There's paths I've still never got in some games I played 20 years ago.

TVs just hold rings and powerups. You don't have to smash them all but if you see one grab them.

You don't have to kill enemies at all really but some get in your way of jumps and you can use them for extra height.

The giant rings are entrances to the special stages. To enter them all you got to do is find them. They're hidden away though in secret places so you got look hard for them. I haven't found one in like 4 levels now. They give Chaos Emeralds where if you collect them all you get the good endings and can turn SUPER sonic which is basically going super saiyan. It's awesome

>>387253062
except for the Eggman TV that kills you - I didn't know what it did and learned the hard way. Mania truly is the Dark Souls of platformers

>>387253270
Oh yeah. Well anything Robotnik on it is bad.

>>387253062

>not going fast

You have forgotten the face of your father.

>>387253270
Those were in the originals.

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>>387253270
10/10 would laugh again.

>>387252720
true news

>>387252268
It probably can't replicated, and certainly not by Mario. People wanted a return to form with sonic since 3D sonic games are total shit, however Mario 3D games are at least decent and everything 2D can be made with Mario maker.

>Haha Sega does what Nintendon't
Switch blown the fuck out!

can somebody explain why sonic mania needs 2gb of ram. 32mb of vram is understandable. but 2GBs of GOD DAMN ram

>>387252268
>>387252720
Wew that scared me for a second there
But true if Mania had a 98 score this would not be the only thread about it

>>387254013
Because it isn't a fucking Mega Drive game. It is just imitating the Mega Drive's aesthetics.

Sega is dead and sonic is shit, for every good sonic game there are always 5 or 6 sonic games that sucks hard, the company is only alive thanks to spinoffs and hatsune miku.

Should I get this if the last Sonic games I enjoyed were the Sonic Advance games?

Funny enough, Mario's big nostalgic throwback spin off actually scored better than Mania

http://www.metacritic.com/game/ds/new-super-mario-bros

>>387254013
Same reason it needs a GTX 1060
Gotta mine those bitcoins to make up for the lost PC sales because of pirates

Alternatively it's just not optimized well. Also while 2 GB is kinda high, 32MB is way too fucking low.

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>>387254265
is it the last 90s again? sega has been doing great.

>>387254283
Absolutely.

>>387254364
Fucking delet this 2D sonic was always better...

>>387254364
you missed the point of throwback. its not in the same visual style as its predecessors

>>387252468
The objective is to get from point A to point B. How you do that, how fast, what path you take, is up to you. That's the beauty of a Sonic level. No pointless things to collect, no time limit, no medals, nothing. You just go through the level however you want to go through it.

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>>387253884
>It probably can't replicated, and certainly not by Mario.

We'll see. The next 2D Mario game is going to start a whole different series.

>>387255697
I doubt they'll go back to sprites, though.

>>387252468
>>387252523
>>387252684
>>387252861
>>387255183
>samefagging with neofag reposts
Is this how low shitposting has fallen?

>>387252468
You never played Sonic? How the fuck do you even call yourself a gamer, that's like not leaning one of the alphabets. Sonic is unironically a classic, ignore the hate which come from nintendo fags.

>>387256072
Probably not, what with all their other 2D platformers pushing for 3D character models, including the new 2D Metroid.

Here's hoping whatever new mechanics and level design they come up with is as imaginative as their outings before NSMB (though NSMBU had some pretty cool levels).

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>>387253902
>>387253649
But what if I bought it on Switch?

>>387256291
I was being ironic anon.

>>387252468
I wonder how young you are

Shitposting and faggotry aside, is anyone genuinely happy about a good Sonic game finally coming out?
I am

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>>387256697
Sanic was my first vidya ever and 3&K is still in like my top 3 games. I've always mourned all the mediocre and shitty sonic games coming out, but this is like being a kid again and not having to brace for liquid shit.

>>387252468
You're overthinking it dude just play and have fun you fucking autist play how you want

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Sonic is indie tier at this point, Sega doesn't even try to compete with Mario anymore. Do I have to remind you of what Sonic Forces (the "big" Sonic game of the year) is up against?

when will the shitty '90s nostalgia end?

>>387257169
Reminder that Nintendo consistently puts out quality games and Sega is still trying to reform their biggest IP

>>387257170
When better mascot platformers come out.

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>>387257169
>>387257285
yeah, nintendo puts out so many quality games like uhhhhhhhhhhhhh

>>387252268
98 but still an indie game.

>>387252468
Just go right

>>387252468
Ever played a platformer?

>>387252268
Great. Good for you. Where does the Sonic franchise go from here?

>>387257394
>unironically putting Sonic Forces on there

Classic Sonic levels in that game will bog it down when people begin comparing the physics to Mania.

>>387252268
Sonic was never good

>>387257394
Mario Odyssey

>>387257852
IGN/10

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>>387257394
>2 Yakuza games
>a fucking WEEB game
>SONIC FORCES
MY FUCKING SIDES

>>387257394
3 of those are on switch

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>>387257394
>sonic forces

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>Having fun cruising around as Super Sonic
>Come to a crashing hault as the shittastic crush kill gets me because two objects were near enough to touch me
Fuck this shit

>>387253062
>You just hold onto rings so you don't die
Don't you need fifty rings to get the special stages?

>>387258272
Blue orbs is 25 rings at a checkpoint, special stages don't require rings

once everyone beats it by tonight the FoTM crew will have moved on and the score will fall. Right now everyone is hyped because OOH SHINY NEW TOY!
In a month I expect /v/ to be shitting on this game just like every other Sonic game

>>387258996
This is not like every game post Sonic CD, anon.

Expect Forces to be compared heavily to Mania's physics in regards to the Classic Sonic stages and every future game from now on.

>>387259140
>rehashes music, zones, sprites, game concepts and graphics from previous games
it'll be shit talked in a month for being a short boring nostalgia kick and then everyone will remember Sonic is and always has been dogshit

>>387252970
BotW is 97

>>387252268
Hey, a good game every ten years is not bad, right?

So guys, I played a lot of sonic back when I was a kid however I never actually played the genesis games. I played a few ps2 ones which weren't that amazing and the gba ones, which were my favorites. Do you recommend me sonic mania? I'm a big fan of platformers in general.

Isn't Sega owned by Nintendo now?

>>387259560
Never ever, nintencück

>>387259560
Yes, it is. Just let us oldfags have this, a Sega vs Nintendo discussion like good old times.

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>>387252268
so botw is literally sonic level, good thing i didnt even pirate this shit

>>387257636
Yeah but sometimes you go left

>>387253330
Why did the movie have to be such shit?

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>>387259560
If that were the case Mania would've been canceled back when it was a fan project so Nintendo could release an ugly as hell 3D version.

>>387252268
By the end of this year:

>Sonic Mania: MC 82
>Sonic Forces: MC 64
>Super Mario Odyssey: MC 94

>>387252268
I dont think you can say they won
the reviews for this game follow the same edging principal that BotW did.
>release shitty game
>announce that next game will go back to its roots
>get everyone excited predicated on the fact that it will be like the origional
>actually fucking deliver
>fans explode after edging since they were kids for a true sequel to their game
>10/10 for doing what you said you were going to do

This is also about to happen with Mario Odyssey

>>387252268
Fantastic game but I'm pretty sure it's not that high of a score

i'm playing this on the switch heh heh HEH

>>387253846
saying anything "is the dark souls of <genre>" is fucking autistic

>>387260931
>sonic mania is following how botw was reviewed
Ok explain
>release shitty game
...

>>387258565
Oh, right. Honestly I'm not a fan of S3&K's giant ring method. I think it's a pain to go around scouting for the rings, it's like I'd have to write them down to actually get all the Emeralds since you can only use them once and have to start a new file entirely to use them again, not even being able to just reload your save to get another try on the same ring.

>>387261198
He's talking about Skyward Sword on that line, not BotW.

Only autistic spergs who drool and smell like shit play sonic, fuck off

>>387257169
Mania is actually competing with the Metroid 2 remake

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>>387259470
I guess no one cares about the sonic advanced games...

>>387260796
epic zinger my dude

>>387261978
You mean the fanmade one, right? The official one looks like the Sonic Forces to AM2R's Sonic Mania.

Why is being a PC gamer always suffering /v/?

>>387256697
Yes. Most Sonic games are actually good it only has a few bad games.

>>387252268
>20 dollar indie remake with incredible polish and care put into it
vs
>60 dollar triple A title which nintendo is comparing to legendary games super mario sunshine and super mario 64


it's like comparing apples and oranges

>>387257809
Obviously a Mania sequel with 100% original levels and hand-drawn artwork a la Rayman Origins

anyone who says 3d sonic/ was never good is either ign or a contrarian let's have a quick rundown:
>adventure 1 and 2
a perfectly acceptable first jump into 3d the cutscenes weren't the best as was the style at the time unless you were a big budget rpg nothing to really complain about except treasure hunting which loses a few points
8/10
>heroes
honestly thought it was even better than the adventure games
one of the best games in the series
9/10
>shadow the hedgehog
not great but not as bad as some people would have you believe solid 5/10
>sonic 06
indefensible music was good though
1/10
>secret rings
worst motion controls i've ever used
3/10
>black knight
what secret rings should of been: actually good
7/10
>unleashed
despite le werehog memes there was absolutely nothing wrong with the werehog it was just somewhat out of place but not horrible in any way. Plus daytime stages were amazing. solid 8/10
>colors
unleashed's anorexic brother despite being technically sound it was over reliant on 2d sections 7/10
>Genrations
perfected the daytime unleashed formula and the 2d sections were advertised well beforehand and were also fun 9/10
>lost world
tried to experiment a little too hard 6/10
>boom
indefensible at least the cartoon is good
2/10
i don't consider anything above a 5/10 that bad because all those other numbers exist for a reason
>>387264162
this guy gets it

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>>387257394
puyo puyo tetris

its in your fucking image you dumb fuck

>>387254265
>for every good sonic game there are always 5 or 6 sonic games that sucks hard
Just like Mario

But it's ok when Nintendo does it

>>387254364
>actual new game vs romhack
Duh

>>387257169
>Sonic is indie tier at this point
I never played an indie game as good as mania

and only a couple of mario games are as good as mania as well. namely just 3, world and 64

>>387264530
>pedophile pandering garbage
The fact that Sonic Team uses my money to make this upsets me

>>387257636
This. You just hold right, and watch the game play itself. It's boring.

>>387252523
>>387252684
>>387256250
>>387256973
>>387257636
>>387257807
nice non-answers
why do I even bother coming here anymore

>>387257809
sega needs to finish sonic X-treme

then make adventure mania

then boost mania

>>387258220
git gud

>>387259470
fuck yes

sonic advance is basically a collection of old sonic ideas

>
Sonic Mania is out, hooray! Unless you've got it on Switch, sadly. According to multiple accounts and our own testing, when playing Sonic Mania in handheld mode on Switch the capture button, home button and power buttons on the system either fail to respond at all, or are very slow to respond. This issue seems to only affect the Switch version when undocked, is not happening for every user, and is intermittent even when it does happen.
kek

>>387264712
Some things you have to learn for yourself man stop being a baby.

holy fuck stop pretending sonic was ever good

>>387263742
nobody told you to buy a pc, retard

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>>387264520
>adventure 1 and 2 8/10
>black knight 7/10

get a load of this

>>387265034
He posted the meme again

>>387252468
sonic is the most overrated video-game franchise ever, the game is a boring piece of shit, only the boss fights are worth playing, the rest is just hold right and jump a bit

>>387265116
yoyr right adventure 1 was more of a 7/10 i should have though about it a little longer

>>387252468
To give some serious answers
-This is the best time to pick it up because I doubt Sega will ever approve another game like this for a very, very long time. Sega of Japan despises everything about America except that we have money, and something that we like that they don't care for is always first on their chopping block (see PSO2).
-Rings are meant for certain bonuses and for lives. For instance, there exists a powerup in all of the 2D games which you can only get by having lots of rings or sometimes having a certain number of rings by the time you reach some pre-defined point like a checkpoint.
-As long as you complete each level before the 10 minute mark, then it doesn't matter. Your only reward for completing levels early is points (and those are as helpful as you would expect points in a 2D platformer from the 90's to be).
-TVs are just powerups, they didn't want to put them in a block because they didn't want to have the inevitable Mario comparisons
-Mega-ring is for Chaos Emeralds, and the condition to get those changes game-by-game. The first game was having 50 rings by the time you reached a checkpoint (you could get all of the emeralds in the first stage if you were good), the third game changed this up to simply exploring and finding the giant ring, I think Mania is a mix of both, rings + find it.
If you want to know what you are in for, go pick up Sonic 2 and play through a couple of stages. It will be more of that.

>>387265462
>Sonic was NEVER good
ft teenage millennial going through his edgy phase

>>387265564
>>387265116
>opinions

>>387257169
Do I have to remind you that Forces already won that? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKjOJuPjiu4

>>387264687
They should spend more money on puyo puyo.

>>387265462
sonic is the most underrated video game franchise ever

never has such an iconic and beloved franchise received such harsh and undo criticism

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>>387253270

> Mania truly is the Dark Souls of platformers

Top jej

>>387252268
you know i love to flame sonic but now that i think about it when they came out these games were probably great, it's just that they really don't hold up today at all but people are still stuck in the nostalgia and insist the games are good

>>387265042
I love my PC but I hate how publishers never think about us ;_;

>>387265785
Fuck off pedo.

>>387261197
It's a meme, you dip.

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>>387253270
>Mania truly is the Dark Souls of platformers

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>>387265871

>>387265627
>I doubt Sega will ever approve another game like this for a very, very long time.

Didn't Iizuka himself say that they would decide the future direction of the franchise based on how well Mania and Forces do? Sega tends to be better than most companies of its size at listening to fans, and with the near universal praise that Mania's getting there's no way they aren't considering a sequel.

>>387265992
I want more Puyo.

>>387266079
>romhacks are the future of the franchise

>>387266079
It comes down to which studio made which game. Sonic team is making Forces and some westerner made Mania. So naturally they're going to try and spin this as to be a massive win for Forces and a statement as to why Westerners can't do anything right.

>>387266257
>m-muh racism

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>>387252468
PICK IT UP NOW

>>387266257
>>387266154
Sonic Team should rename themselves to Puyo Team and let Taxman create the new Sonic Team.

>>387266257
Nah the opposite. With this they can stop actually making sonic games and just outsource it to the west. It's a full-proof plan.

anyone have a torrent for this?

>>387252468
>I have no idea how to play a Sonic game.
Start at Point A, make it to Point B. The basic goal is the same as your standard platformer, simple stuff.

>Are you trying to acquire and hang onto as many rings as possible, or do they not really matter outside of lives?
Holding even one ring acts as a buffer against death, provided you're not crushed, drowning, falling off the screen or running out of time. Getting hit without a shield of some kind will cause you to drop them all. You get an extra life if you can grab and hold onto 100 and then 200.

>Are you trying to complete levels as fast as possible or are you supposed to regularly stop and explore? The focus on speed in the game is a little confusing to me, as it seems like you'll be quickly ushered through gigantic parts of the game in the name of speed. Are you expected to kind of backtrack and explore the area that you just zoomed through?
Momentum is earned through understanding the game's physics and becoming familiar with the levels. Provided you make it to the goal in under 10 minutes, whether you choose to go fast or explore is your call.

>Should you be seeking out every TV to smash? What rewards do these garner? What about enemies? Should you be trying to kill them all or is it okay to just run past them?
Monitors give you various powerups, most notably the elemental shields, invincibility and extra lives. Enemies are there to slow you down, kill or evade at your leisure.

>What do you need to do to acquire the giant ring (no idea if that's what it's called)? What makes it invisible/unattainable and what unlocks the ability to acquire it? What's the benefit of acquiring the giant ring?
They're hidden in the levels. They're usually found in more difficult routes, or out-of-the-way nooks, or hidden in walls, and so on. They let you attempt the Special Stages which is your means of acquiring Chaos Emeralds, seven of which get you the best ending and enable Super Sonic when you collect 50 rings.

>>387266379
>muh taxman
You retards can't understand that two years from now nobody will care about his romhacks

I have yet to understand what's good about classic Sonic games.

>>387267349
Try playing them then.

>>387267658
I did. Besides the music I don't find anything appealing there.

>>387267760
>>387267349
They are fun

>>387252268
Freedom Planet is the only good sonic game

>>387252468
Don't. It's hot garbage for actual autistic kids. All Sonic games are.

>>387267760
Exactly how I felt. Good music but the gameplay is not up to par to the mario games

>>387252468
>Are you expected to kind of backtrack and explore the area that you just zoomed through?
The game is painfully slow for the most time, unless you play the levels over and over.
Unfortunately, Sonic Mania still has the same massive problem all 2D Sonics have, the came being far too close.