Undertale is greatest RPG. Maybe.

Imagine how less popular the game would have been if it didn't pander to furries and gays.

t. man who doesn't play RPGs

It does seem like something Taro would like.

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Reminder that this is real.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cph6XMXRKzY

Undertale is better than Nier: Automata.

>MSpaint dude sexual issues xD
>Good
People are totally brainwashed
I don't want even be part of society anymore

Why does /v/ hate a game it's never played and knows nothing about

>>387246235
General hypocrisy.

>>387246138
Maybe.

Oh, was Undertale translated to JP? Yoko said like a month before N:A released that he hadn't played it because of that.

>>387245647
It's not even a RPG what the fuck?

>>387246098
Looks like something Devolver would do.

>>387246357
What is a RPG then

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>>387246235
/v/ loved Undertale before it was popular.

>>387246235
Fanbase taint

>>387246098
kill me

Damn. I feel bad for Tarotards for once.

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>Didn't play both games
This makes neither the greatest in my book

>>387246357
How is it not an RPG?

>>387245647
taro is a hack anyway. who cares of what he thinks

I love how butthurt people are about this statement. Yoko Taro isn't a conventional person and UT is definitely a game that shares themes and mechanics with taro games.

>>387246384
n-no, /v/ never played the demo years before and loved it, fuck your lies, it NEVER happened, there is absolutely no way that /v/ only started to hate the game right after it was discovered by tumblr, that would make /v/ even more childish and hipster than tumblr and we all know that /v/ is way better than tumblr and reddit

>>387246384
Those early undertale threads sure were fun. Discussing the game, telling people to fuck off before they get spoiled by the flowey fight, getting angry people telling us to fuck off to /vg/ despite there being 10 active MGSV threads at any given point.

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>tfw you're not an idiot who hates Undertale or Nier: Automata

>>387246383
>>387246547
Anything with a half decent story lmao

>>387246713
That has no bearing on whether it's an RPG.

>>387246098
Lol I want to play it in Japanese now

wtf i hate taro now

I doubt he's being serious, considering that the game can't even be played in Japanese.

>>387245647
Man that makes good games likes good games.
Shocking.

>>387246547
It's a very easy bullet hell shmup that deconstructs the RPG tropes, people thinking it's an RPG are clinically retarded.

>>387246778
there was a fan patch like 2 years ago

>>387246235
You now, when the game was still a demo, /v/ was the only place where everyone talked about it and wanting to fuck goat mum. This and homostuck forum I think.

Also when the game was first released, Undertale threads are legit civil. We actually discussed the game, made fanarts, and sharing the pirated link. I even got a copy from a mega link.

Undertale is a classic example of /v/ hating a game simply because it got popular.

>>387246412
This, pretty much. It quickly became the video game equivalent of My Little Pony. I'm not saying it's bad, I wouldn't know, I haven't played it, but I'm tired of seeing the characters.
Hot goat MILF aside of course.

>>387246778
>considering that the game can't even be played in Japanese.
The assumption is that he and other Japanese developers were given the localized version advertised in the trailer.
Or fan patch.

>>387245647
Oh please Undertale is a glorified VN with a lil bit of gameplay.

>People taking another Taro shitpost seriously
>Again

>>387246098
That's a great ad though

>>387246235
I finished Undertale yesterday. It was pretty good.

>>387245647
Even poor Taro has bought into the hype.

It's not true anyways. The Mother series (taken as a whole) is the greatest RPG.

Maybe.

>>387245647
its a fuckin shit "rpg". Fuckin scrubs everywhere ruining gaming.

... Why is anyone surprised Taro, a niche weird as fuck man wearing a mask everywhere he goes publicly, likes weird shit?

>>387245647
Both games are ruined by their fanbases funny huh

>>387246747
Yes it does faggot

>>387246821
/v/ hates Undertale because it brought the underage youtube kiddies who have shit up the board beyond recognition.

Reminder Taro also likes Life is Strange and Horizon Zero Dawn, /v/ BTFO.
https://blog.us.playstation.com/2017/07/11/discover-the-creators-yoko-taros-favorite-ps4-games/

>>387245647
>RPG

Taro is shitposting.

>>387246808
>people thinking it's an RPG are clinically retarded.
Because why? Having the combat incorporate bullet hell segments doesn't make it any less of an RPG than one with, say, action or card based combat.

>>387246808
The mental gymnastics you go through to not call it an rpg are almost as retarded as you

>>387246876
Weird way of spelling Danganronpa
>>387246934
So I guess Metal Gear Solid is a type of RPG
Spec Ops the Line is an RPG
brilliant

>>387246878
>I-it's just shitposting, guys! There's no way he seriously likes a game I don't like!

>>387246951
So it got popular. Who's this /v/ fellow anyway?

>>387246960
Someone tell him there are other consoles in the world, poor man is stuck with a nogamestation 4.

Can I get a Steam refund for Nier Automata if I haven't played it?

>>387246821
More like people who only heard tumblr liked it invaded conversations with those that played. Then general shitposting, newfags thinking /v/ is only hate, etc.

No shit he likes a game that fucks with the idea of pacifism vs genocide.

>>387247126
You can get a refund as long as its under 2 hours of game time and you've owned it for less than 2 weeks, guaranteed.

>>387246098
Undertale is genuinely the only female 'thinking' RPG that exists.

Crazy, batshit insane characters? Technically subpar videogame? Nobody has to die (but only if you're willing to manipulate the shit out of them)? Cute dogs? Superficially interesting but incredibly lacking in depth? Undertale is women: the videogame.

This is fine btw. Women too need their videogaems.

>>387247221
Very weak b8.

>>387246669
>/v/ liked FF@F before it blew the fuck up
>Can even remember the comfy threads before it was known about
>Then people screaming to take the threads to /vg/ happened
>Then it blew up with streamers and /v/ hated it

>Almost exact same story with Undertale too

>>387245647

Fallout 1 is the best

>>387246098
>they kept the not actual in game footage from the old trailer
nice

>>387247338
lol holy shit I still remember when FFNF was being hyped as super creepy and shit, and then it turned out like it did.

>>387245647
how can his taste be so shit

>>387247338
And what do we learn from this?

E-celebs, streamers and youtube fuckers ARE cancer.

I guess i don't have to play Nier after all, if the creator's taste is that shitty.

>>387247271
Very effeminate response

>>387247052
Yes.

>>387247509
lol Spec Ops The Line is an RPG but not Undertale

wtf you're an idiot

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>Le /v/ used to love undertale b4 it got popular :^)

I bet you goddamn newfaggots don't remember homostuck general number XXXXXXX

You're really gonna pretend fucking /vg/ doesn't exist? This site has always been plagued by obsessive faggots that don't know how to contain their shitposting

>>387247212
>you've owned it for less than 2 weeks

shit

>>387247008
>>387246983
They aren't mental gymnastics, think about it, the RPG elements are superfluous and irrelevant to both the story and the gameplay, the progression is meaningless when you can be lv 1 and mercy everything, they are little more than flavor text and actually taking it as a serious RPG is detrimental and advised against because muh genocide so it's more of a stretch to call it an RPG when you're literally told not to play it as one.

>>387247496
We really to acknowledge that streaming games has led to the creation of a demographic that spends way more time watching games than playing them.

The term 'meme game' has been used to describe Undertale and how it was received among it's audience, and I'm inclined to agree.

>>387247587
>Le
>Reddit spacing
You have to go back.

literally why do people like undertalr so much. It's insane how popular it is for an earthbounds/Mario and Luigi rip off

>>387246235
the train of thought is something like this
>I am cynical and jaded with above average intelligence but low drive for improvement or academic success
>The majority of people are less intelligent than me and thus, stupid, even some people who are more intelligent than me are stupid
>If something is popular - that means the majority likes it - stupid people like it
>But I'm not stupid, they are
>I don't like it
it's your average intellectual arrogance at play
4chan is actually full of young men with above average intelligence, but low social skills and strong alienation/cynicism

they'll get over it when they're older
I did at least, sort of, most of the time
still cringe when I catch myself think the old way

>>387246098
I'm curios to see what the Japanese will think of it now that's it's localized in nip.

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>>387247675
>Reddit spacing

>>387247497
I've played it and it's really nothing special.
Certainly a lot better than undertale, but pretty mediocre.
It has a lot of hilariously bad voice acting so if that's your thing you can get some enjoyment out of that.

>>387247338
>Lisa was loved as fuck
>Now every thread is "game is bad because the author is a sjw" shitposting
>Kirby threads were a fortress of gaming discussion
>Now they got infected by shitposting after the orbfuckers spawned
>MonHun threads were able to push away shitposting by sheer force of gameplay discussion
>Now MonHun threads are a cove of console wars
>Crash threads were few but very focused on the games
>After the N.sane Trilogy got announced it's just shitposting about how the games were always bad, WOAH ONEY SO FUNNY and horny furries dumping Coco pictures
I could go on for hours. In a month, everyone will shit on Sonic Mania, just wait for it.
/v/ is THAT bad.

>>387247570
Spec Ops and MGS2 is the best thing you can come up with "a half-decent" story.

Do you even play games faggot?

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>>387247570
Is this an RPG?

>>387247698
It already has a big following long standing now.

>>387247698
There's been an unofficial nip translation out for ages. In fact, they seem to not like the official one.

>>387246186
Cool. Don't forget to stream it

>>387247086
>>>/y/outube
Fuck off

>>387246960
"[While I was creating NieR]... I was thinking 'oh man, [Final Fantasy Versus XIII] is an action RPG right? It would suck if the release dates were close to each other.' NIER ended up releasing without having to worry about Versus XIII but then, when I was creating Drakengard 3 I thought 'it would suck if they release close to our release,' and it was the same again when we were creating NieR: Automata this time too.

Had a good laugh.

Wonder how the "perminant" choices work. Surely they're simply tied to the save file which can be deleted.
Unless they're evil and detect it through trophies or something...

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>>387247796
>>MonHun threads were able to push away shitposting by sheer force of gameplay discussion
>>Now MonHun threads are a cove of console wars
Don't fucking remind me.

>>387245647
I respect the games he makes but that Yoko Taro guy is an absolute nutcase. Next week he will be tweeting a cheese burger is the greatest RPG.

>>387247796
Wait, Kirby threads are shit now?

>>387247221
Jrpgs are for women.
At least this one has something on the gameplay.

>>387247796
Sonic Mania is confirmed to be garbage though.

>>387247796
Already made a YouTube video about it.

It's just a highlight reel of the original games. It's really not all that impressive or special.

>>387247886

Is there any game that can be discussed without it devolving into a console war anymore? Serious question

>>387247693
Maybe the game is just subpar gamemaker trash?

Well he doesn't make Role Playing Games so who gives a shit about his opinion

>>387247796
>gw2 threads on the rise
>they have game discussion

what a time to be alive

>>387247961
If it's subpar gamemaker trash, then how did it get popular in the first place?

>>387247796
>Tfw you remember the lore threads that came up when the 3DS titles released.
It's a sad state to see the kirby threads as little more than shitposting thanks to the name a bad/good kirby game meme.

>>387247920
Pretty much like all threads discussing anything related to Nintendo.

>>387247587
I'd like to also add that the obsessive faggots are always the first to discuss the game, so of course /v/ posters like things before more people got exposed to it.

>>387245647
>ignore all the hype and shitposting and retarded tumblr fans for undertale
>eventually play it almost a year post release
>it's nothing special
I still don't see what all the fuss is about

>>387245739
Imagine how less popular the Automata would have been if it didn't pander to ass lovers and leotard fetishist.

>>387247587
Fuck off you piece of trash

>>387247930
Wew, it took less than I predicted.

>>387246383
>>387246547
Undertale is an ironic RPG. It is more shmup than RPG.

>>387247960
I honestly do believe that this E3 brought in the highest amount of cross-site shitposters from places like leddit and neofag and are literal children.

>>387247587
>I'll rewrite history because I don't like a game
Good thing archives exist and it takes very few steps to prove you wrong.

>>387248036
Reblogs, youtube trash, it already had the homestuck audience since the creator was already known among the clique.

Are you really making the popular=good argument right now?

>>387246098
I want that locket...

>>387247359
I'd like Fallout 1 and 2, but the gameplay is kind of weak, especially since you need 10 AGI and the gifted trait or else you're gimping yourself. Also, I don't like turn-based combat. Other than that, I'd play both of them.

Really hoping bethesdo lets obsidian remake those in the fallout 4 engine, without voiced protag of course.

>>387247587
/v/ constantly complaining about vidya threads and forcing them all to /vg/ is what killed this board
But if it's faggots like FFXIV, then they can fuck off to /vg/

>>387246808
sorry, are you talking about undertale or nier?

>>387248221
Moe archives died, though.

undertale is a game

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>>387245739
I don't feel very pandered to at all.

All the best husbandos have 50 seconds worth of dialog, and the 2 gay ones wear armor and have 2 minutes worth of dialog.

Undyne gets whole segments for straight guys.

>>387247796

Most are fine with Fallout 1. In fact, people usually consider it the best RPG or one of the best RPGs here.

That probably tells you something.

>>387246235
/v/ is the reason its popular
do you not remember the goatmom threads, rebbit?

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>>387247796

>>387246653
you must be new here

>>387247930
If by garbage you mean the best 2D sonic game yes

>>387248389
He's not wrong

can someone ban these faggots posting twitters all the fucking time

>>387248390
Were you seriously not around when the demo for Undertale first popped up. There were a billion fucking threads and people shitting their pants over Flowey.

>>387248221
Things /v/ loves
>undertale
>fnaf
>me2
>katawa shoujo
>lol/dota
>sc2

You mean these things that were so reviled for their absence of boardwide support that they got exiled for being embarrassing circle-jerks?

I've been curious about this game and I may pick it up but what I want to know is if I will be hit over the head with SJW shit until my brain hemorrhages or is it just /v/ overreacting like it does 90% of the time?

>>387246653
I thought /v/ started hating the game after it won the gamefaq's "Best game ever" poll?

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>tfw back in the first couple of weeks the game was out only /v/, reddit and some other forums talked about undertale
>tfw literally no major gaming sites/youtubers were talking about it
>tfw i was legit worried that the game would go completely unnoticed and not get the attention it deserved
Jokes on me I guess

>>387248405
Sonic 2 is the best one though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vaBxXCH9b8

>>387248389
Good thing I like both so I can declare myself a double hipster cheeseburger.

>>387248606
Not even close

>>387247886
I do my best to keep them alive, anon. You just have to be a guiding force to keep the shitposters away.

>>387248606
>>387247930

Have you actually played Mania?

>>387248547
>what I want to know is if I will be hit over the head with SJW shit until my brain hemorrhages
There's no SJW shit
I suppose the argument could be made for forced diversity?
Most of the strong characters in the game are female and there's a decent amount of girl x girl relationships

>>387248547
Find out yourself, retard.

>>387248664
Not either of the people or posts you have been talking to but no I have not played Mania.

Serious question: I'm making a smaller game and while it's taking form nicely it's basically all game mechanics. I has no story, lore, etc, I know nothing about writing.

Story is what most people seem to care nowadays. What is a good way to write a story that will be popular among the public? What can I use as a source of inspiration?
Things that seem to be popular because of their writing:
>undertale
>life is strange
>spec ops: the line
>mgs
>to the moon
>firewatch
Any others I should borrow from? Any tips?

Thanks

>>387248680
Alright that's fine. I just can't stand it when a game was obviously made for the sole purpose of preaching to me. Thanks.

>>387248772
>What is a good way to write a story that will be popular among the public?
Your story will be shit. Either write the story you want to tell or don't even bother.

>>387248547
The most SJW stuff in the game is that it's a pleasant, positive game in the vein of a cartoon show.

Is it SJW when Dot got all the good lines in Animaniacs?

>>387246098
Fuck toby.
>no new content
>adds a shrine with items and such
>yet still has not released some of the kickstarter goals.

>>387248772
Just meme up the story. Pick something that's been done forever like save the princess or ancient evil awakens and have some characters literally spell out the story points to the player

>>387248772
don't try to just pander to everyone by looking at popular shit. you have to write what you know and care about.

>>387248772
Read Owlturd's comics and write something on that line.
>4th wall breaking
>Autoreferential
>Silly jokes for simple minded people
>Personifications of emotions
>Waaah my life's so shitty
There, 10/10 story.

>>387248907
>no new content
>adds a shrine with items and such
Isn't that technically new content though?

>>387248772

Have an overall goal that you learn from the beginning or near the beginning

Then have branches off that path that leads to optional quests that are self-contained or support the main goal

It's generally best not to have 1 overall moral or philosophical point for your narrative; diversity of ideas is the best

>>387248480
What's your point? It's been established that there is no such thing as board consensus. There has always been and will always be a cavalcade of obsessive weirdos on 4chan. Were you here for mass effect 2? Or pokemon before /vp/? Or at all before /vg/ and before /r9k/ came back? This place is always a shitshow. Don't pretend it's suddenly logical and specific when you want to pretend your fandom isn't the same.

Is toby fox the most obnoxious vidya dev?

>>387248907
>no new content
Blame dataminers for that.

>>387248940
>>387248873
I only care about making the game fun through it's mechanics.

>>387248937
>>387248965
Thanks

>>387249000
how is he obnoxious?

>>387249000
Not with people like Phil Fish around.

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>>387245647
Man I really didn't like Undertale, maybe I'm just too bitter to enjoy games like that now, but I didn't find it fun or interesting at all.

>>387247923
Like a bullet hell for the disabled?

>>387248772
Pander to whatever faggots you want, if the game is trash people will still buy it because it panders to their ideas.

>>387249120
you don't have to like every video game my man

I never played Undertale, but isn't there a part of the game where you have to delete certain game files in the program folder?

>>387249080
https://twitter.com/tcbyfcx/status/696188011197919232
One of many similarly pretentious tweets around the release

>>387249000
Frankly i'd consider the fanbase more obnoxious then Toby is.

>>387249120
That's perfectly fine. Just remember you're trying to fit in with Homestuck fans.

>>387248364
Undyne is a typical WOMAN POWER and a lesbo you retard

>>387246235
Fan base is cancer

>>387249120
That's ok, I was kinda so-so myself on Undertale. Still can't believe its being shitposted about to this day.

>>387249191
No. Only cheaters do that because they are too pussies to face the consequences of their shitty choices.

>>387248972
it says in the trailer no new content.
I meant it as he says no new content but ads some and not the original kickstarter goals as promised

>>387249195
why are you linking to a parody account though.

>>387248036
Toby Fox's work on the Homestuck fanbase got them obsessed with him and what he was doing.

The game itself had nothing to do with it.

>>387249061
>I only care about making the game fun through it's mechanics.
Then making a story will only detract from them. Look at Devil Daggers. Just pure gameplay.

>>387248547
There's no SJW bullshit, just a lot of really good writing with some horrible writing mixed in. Plus the genocide route is so dark, and even on the other routes the "dark edgy" shit can really beat you over the head.

It's a favorite of mine though, lots of very funny writing, fun battles, good characters, and amazing music. The whole thing just sucks you in and doesn't let go, at least for me.

but LISA is better tho

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>>387247923
>Jrpgs are for women.
Say that to my face.

>>387249195
You are a fucking idiot.

>>387248558
>v hates a game because it's popular
>they make up reasons to hate it and ignore positives so they can justify hating it
What a twist.gif

>>387249274
No, it certainly did. It resonated with these people's sense of humor. There must be some papers on autistic humor by now.

>>387246384
>/v/
You mean the 15 people that knew about the kickstarter and were making threads about muh thicc goat mom? Then yes

>>387249195
But that's a parody account though.
>Inb4 that's the point

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>>387249251
And? That's the farthest thing that panders to me.

>>387248547
Just because there are a handful of characters with mixed sexual tastes it doesn't mean the game is for SJWs.
Hell, some Japanese games are full of homos and lesbians but nobody ever calls them "SJW pandering". Hell, Paper Mario had a fucking trans character.

>>387249195
Parody, anon

>>387248381

Fallout 1/2 are clunky messes that aged like shit.

>>387247796

This is unironically almost entirely reddit's fault. Reddit crossposters see 4chan as the place people go to to shitpost and literally only come here for shitposting

>>387249403
>make up reasons
oh that's cute

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>>387248090
Literally nothing wrong with that kind of pandering, but I agree.

Oh boy more people will play it. can't wait for more FONT skeles art

>>387249551
Biased much

>>387246547
retards think RPG means something other than roleplaying game

hell, mario 64 is a RPG because you assume to role of mario but none of these idiots would accept that

>>387246778
PS4 release includes japanese text.

>>387245647
Blunderfail

>>387249251
undyne may be a butch, but she also 100% was there to appeal to the "men who want to be made a woman's bitch" demographic

>>387246778
>the game can't even be played in Japanese.
yes it can since today.

I'm a game developer and I want to kill myself everyday knowing that I can never ascend past typical mediocrity to be lucky enough that some of my idols will ever acknowledge me in such a public way.

Talk me out of it, or encourage me to do so. The latter is more likely. I wish I was fucking dead. I've wasted my life.

>>387249809
>but she also 100% was there to appeal to the "men who want to be made a woman's bitch" demographic
Fuck

>>387246235
It got popular and /v/ started to hate it.

That's literally it. There's no other reason. /v/ loved it before it was released.

>>387249840
start abusing meth and get to work

you haven't wasted your life until you're on your death bed

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only unpopular things are good.
if you like a thing, i won't like that thing anymore.

i was only liking it to be ironic.

>>387249191
No. The point of the game is that no matter how many times you want to undo it, or reset your save, the game remembers your choices in different saves or timelines. Pussies delete the folders because they're pussies who can't face consequences in vidya

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>>387249329
>but LISA is better though
I don't understand why people compare the two. Undertale is an OFF/homosuck ripoff that replaces the surreal with humor. LISA is a Mother inspired RPG.

People who claim Undertale is like EB/Mother are retarded though

>>387249369
>SMT became the spin off and muh cute girls and teenage boys with romance and muh power of friendship become the flagship franchise...
They truly are for women.

>>387249369

They're for women.

There's a reason why they thought Wizardry was the next coming of testosterone in Japan.

It honestly feels like a newgrounds game
the shitty graphics, the short storymode, the low difficulty

I have no idea how it became so popular
maybe it was the furries?

>>387249975
Who "they"

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>tfw Taro tweeted this not as a praise, but a challenge
>tfw Taro proceeds to make the next great JRPG that blows Undertale out of the water and doesn't appeal to tumblr either

>>387249880
nothing wrong with liking a strong, dominant woman anon. the role reversal is extremely hot.

personally, it gives me a case of the vapors just thinkin' about it

>>387249840
You just have to tap into an unexploited market of autists who will actually buy your shit. Sprinkle some socjus on top for brownie points with (((journalists))), but never commit entirely to it. Congratulations, you're the new Toby Fox.

>>387249945
Also Undertale is a well told self contained story while LISA requires you to go read other games stories to get a clue about what some of the most important things are.

>>387250061
>In an interview with Taro Yoko, he confirms Emil to be homosexual and is attracted to Nier.
All of Taro's game are pandering to tumblr.

>>387246384
This. It's basically the same cycle that happens with every popular video game.

>We love it, declare it the best game ever, GOTY, possible GOTD, the works
>It gets popular, other people start liking it.
>Other people like it, so being the notorious contrarians we are, we must hate it.
>This goes double if Reddit is among those who like it.

The same thing happens with /tv/ when movies come out. See what happened to the Marvel films: /tv/ fucking loved them until reddit liked them, so now they're literally worse than.....I don't know, global warming or something.

To be fair, even though Undertale is a mediocre game, it had some really enjoyable moments
>Papyrus
>Fish Lady fight
>Flowey
>Anime Fish Lady
>Sans before it became a fucking meme

Good music, decent interactive story, ugly/boring RPG game

>>387245739
>hear game is good
>buy it
>huh, it really was good
Whew, that was hard.

>>387250146
Was Rick and Morty also originally liked before season 3 came along?

>>387249631
Oh wow, so every game is an RPG, glad we have the term that holds no value :^)

>>387249895
It's almost like by being more popular more people got to know the game exists and the chances to get negative opinions on it rises
woah....

>mfw other talentless indie devs are jealous of Toby fox's success
kek

>>387250243
Tetris isn't an RPG.

>>387250309
i am the man who arranges the blocks

>>387249369
I'm really surprised that no one ever blew a cap over Undertale's combat being a glorified version of SMT's negotiations. Instead they just go on and on about how original it is when SMT started it years before.

>>387247920
Not really
People still discuss the same shit
Lore, favorite games, powers, etc

>>387250298
we know you shill your warez here toby

>>387250309
You are roleplaying a soviet prisoner actually

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>>387250367
So I've been playing as you this whole time?

>>387250092
What's the fuck are you talking about? You can play LISA The Painful and nothing else and not miss out on anything from the intended experience. Even after playing Joyful I didn't learn too much new stuff. It literally only confirms that Buzzo was a jackass and Yado is the maker of Joy, both of which aren't relevant for Brad's story. If you got the Joyless ending for Painful you already know that Rando was close to Brad as a kid.

>>387250242
The general consesus was that, in the state of western animation series is in today, Rick and Morty was a decent series. I hate how obnoxious it has become.

>>387245739
Imagine how even less popular it would have been if it had pandered to autists like yourself.

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>>387250426
>Kirby
>Lore

>>387245647

>dude that makes games about insane people killing insane people like game about insane people sparing insane people

>>387250524
Some of the main villain backstories get dark as fuck.

>>387249631
RPG in a video game context means there's some sort of character sheet.

>>387249840
>lucky enough that some of my idols will ever acknowledge me in such a public way.
yeah oh wow somebody famous could TWEET you, truly the epitome of success.
seems you need to rethink your goals in life.

>>387250524
When every last boss is an eldritch abomination, there's bound to be some lore, besides the last games had a lot of hidden info in the pause menu while fighting bosses and their EX forms.

>>387250579
Even King Dedede? I've only played three Kirby games for the record.

>>387250197
Papyrus was a fucking treasure. As goofy as Sans was, Papyrus ended up getting more chuckles out of me just because his jokes ended up seeming more accidental out of his own doofiness, rather than cracking jokes like Sans.

If that made sense, it didn't seem as weird in my head.

>>387247845
Serves them right.

>>387249191
Nope. Only game that I can think of that does that is OneShot.

>>387250658
King Dedede has reformed to be a friend of Kirby, but the amazing mirror shows what truly is in his heart and created his shadow version, a version of pure hatred because he will never be as strong as kirby, the moment he became kirby's friend is when the king realised he will never surpass him.

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>>387246098
>Some of the bones in the pile are blue
>The artifact the dog steals is in the back of the truck
>The nightmare flowey knocking the TV
>Metatton is the presenter of the QVC-style part
>That locket

>>387250146
I also think the following is possible:

>a loud minority with good taste says something is good
>the majority, which consist mostly plebs, hears it
>they will think it's the embodiment of God
>despite the fact even the original fans admit that the game has flaws (like everything does), the pleb won't care and will feel betrayed and will shit on it on no end

Or at least that's what I learned from Nier Automata. I casually enjoyed Undertale without ever touching the fanbase or any /v/ threads, but this one gives me this feeling.

>>387247796
>Drakengard/Nier threads are comfy lore discussions
>Nier: A gets revealed at E3
>impossible to have a thread without console wars and shitposting
End me

>>387250880
Sounds like what happened with MGS and all the people that jumped on with 5.

>>387250880
Frankly once a popular youtuber like Pewdiepie or Markiplier plays a game, that's usually the end of any chance for said game having a decent thread on /v/.

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>>387250524

>tfw enjoyed Undertale, but appreciated that it had flaws and that Toby has potential to do even better.
>tfw Undertale is overrated as fuck and Toby is just going to coast on it for the rest of his life.

>>387248907
Even "Hard Mode" is pretty realistic saying if it ever got finished it'd be a "maybe, probably not" kind of thing. his stance had always been "i feel this game is the limit of what i can do with the concept" and never wanted to continue adding to it. the game itself shows obsession with the game's world (or any escapist media) as being unhealthy, and that what matters is your personal choices.

the game is ridiculously layered in ways it doesn't really have to be, to reward personal choices over anything else, in a non-hostile world that will change atmospherically depending on whether you murder or save people. the game simply responds and changes to suit what your choices in the game say about you personally.

even the game's trophies are minimal (would likely not be included if they weren't mandatory) and none of them are about making choices in the story (people probably expected trophies for "total genocide" route and one for "total pacifist" because it's all one way or the other with these idiots)

out of curiosity though what stretch goals did he not do? was a full hard mode one of them?

>>387249191
>>387249267
>>387249916
How does this relate to the story, if at all. Is the message that if you ever do something evil, it is an eternal mark upon you and never forgiven? Guess he made Bibletale, fear based behavior control.

>>387251045
It's always possible to do better for the sake of yourself even after a success anon. Cynicism is not always the answer.

>>387250040

The Japanese, which based their harder and less faggy RPGs on such.

>>387251095
From what I remember, I believe some of the stretch goals he hasn't done yet were mostly physical stuff, like some special comics and an Undertale alarm clock app.

>>38724749
True but circle jerking your hate about how retarded they are and shitposting in game threads does not make you better, both make vidya community terrible

>>387250440
Some people need things spelled out to them in a very very clear manner. I dont mean to offend, it is just the way some people enjoy their stories. Undertale is very explicit on its storytelling and is easy to deduce a shitton of stuff before it happens, but in lisa you are left to wander and infer, waiting for those dialogues or scenes on which the implied themes are acted upon instead of addressed.

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Undertale could have been the best thing ever if all the fights were on the same difficulty as the genocide mode bossfights.

>>387247221
>>387247923
IKR?? Whatever keeps those WOMENZ out of our video games, right, /myguys/?? xDD

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>>387250146
>See what happened to the Marvel films: /tv/ fucking loved them until reddit liked them
Lol. How new?

>>387245784
>i know Taro more than people who work in the industry like Tobyfox
>Taro would like waifu simulators like me

>>387251246
so to the average player of the game, nothing important at all basically.

>>387245647
wtf i hate yokotaro now

>>387251310
Wait for Hard mode

>>387251327
Depends. What year did Iron man 1 come out?

>>387251346
I've been waiting for how long now?

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Are we in Bizarro /v/? Because pic related is not only the greatest RPG of all time, it sits in the top 20 greatest games of all time.

>>387251437
Nice opinion mate.

>>387251437
>Chrono shigger
Overrated crap

>>387250146
>/tv/ fucking loved them
that's next level shit taste. majority of capeshit films appeal to the lowest common denominator.

>>387245647
The only game I despise even though I've never played it.
It could be the 2nd coming of entertainment and I'd still despise it.

>>387251437
what a faggot

Undertale isn't even an RPG.

The state of gooks.

>>387250146
There is a difference between 'popular' and 'so widespread and with such cancerous fanbase that even bronies are getting a run for their money'. Undertale is just homestuck at this point with more tumblr snowflakes.

>>387247960
Not anymore. Seems like every thread nowadays has at least one poster determined to sour things.

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Catty > All

>>387250242
People liked it here during season 1. Season 2 people started to hate it. Season 3 it's rick and memey

The show isn't bad still, but it's definitely a bit up it's own ass.

>>387251897
Aren't most games nowadays popular with shit fanbases though?

>>387246235
I played it on release.

I liked it because it was a charming game during a year that had been nothing but cynical, generic games. Looking back, it's an 8/10 at best.

>>387251897
Apparently nobody is able to just ignore those dimwit fanboys

>>387248389
Where is that even from?

>>387245647
ok

>>387246098
Probably the only indie game worth buying

I don't know why would anyone want to do it for ps4 tho and its 24fps cinematic experience.

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>>387246235
/v/ doesn't play videogames.

Why don't people use RPG correctly any more?

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>>387248589
This.
>friends with toby back in the day
>want to support his game since i couldn't back the ks before
>buy game for a couple of randos while playing tf2
>try to speak good of it whenever i can

>mfw the following few months
I used to be worried about it performing well or matching his Homestuck work in popularity but I was not ready for what happened.

>>387252238
>Probably the only indie game worth buying
-banished
-paper's please
-hotline miami
-binding of isaac

>>387251317
You seem butthurt.

Why?

Is that the implication that women, in general, like games where manipulation is more important than violence? You know it's objectively true, anon. Don't be a SJW and all.

>>387252462
derivative metroidvania and mario garbage

undertale actually created its own original gameplay

>>387252530
Can we stop trying to turn this thread into another flame war?

>>387245647
I like Taro's games, but the speed he went from literal who to industry favorite celeb from one game is pretty ridiculous.

>>387252462
people have already forgotten some of these were indies in the first place, as soon as they go mainstream or have any level of actual quality, you don't see the indie scene rooting for them anymore (the way they do for shitty walking sims made by friends of theirs).

look at all these fucking stupid articles we've gotten about tacoma, gone home, firewatch, edith finch, etc, and nothing about End is Nigh, Banner Saga, or Shantae 4 (because those don't look/play like shit and thus don't represent the actual current indie scene anymore)

>>387246808

Are you the faggot who called it a Knights in the Nightmare ripoff years ago?

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>>387245647
>Sony keks are now jumping through hoops and claiming the game isn't bad because it's on their meme console
Literally vases made of clay.
Undertale is garbage.

>>387252478
Whoa! Epic reply, bro! You got me like

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Way to put them women sjws in their place, bro xDD

>>387246235
/v/ liked Undertale before 2016 New Years Eve. Tumblr came over and /v/ retreated disgusted.

>>387245739
Have you ever considered that someone might design character traits for reasons other than catering to sexual fetishes?

>>387252768
not him but I have to say it

knights in the nightmare > undertale

>>387251828
That's hot. Post more.

>>387252530
True, that's what I like about undertale, unlike most muh postmodern feminist studies indie games, it doesn't take itself too seriously.

All other indies wants to win a pultizer or something

gaming is not art morans lmao

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>>387246384
>4 circlekerking faggots starting threads every once in a while before it was popular
>people who found no interest just ignored those
>more fags started to know about the game
>more annoying threads all over the place
>"hehe I w-want to fug a goat :3 :3"
>shit gets out of control
>turbofags called out on their mediocre shit game
>"WOOOOW why is vee so contrarian??? :(((("
every fucking time
fuck off idiot, you're not special and never were, probably never will

>>387252530
you sound like no fun at all
>>387252704
true, true. i'm not going to shit on gone home, but it's really sad to see it getting so much coverage, when better indie titles exist that barely get even 5% of the coverage that gone home did.

btw, banner saga was a surprise for me. great title.

So what was Undertale trying to say about video games anyway?

>>387252843
>Knights in the Nightmare >

I fucking bought a DS to play it and I've never been so disappointed in my use of money

>>387253091
It was trying to parody Spec Ops: The Line

>>387252941
This.
Here's my epic tale.

>Bought the game the minute it came out (I had seen a few threads about it but didn't know what it was about)
>Wandering through, game felt underwhelming as fuck
>Dropped the game at the fire area.
>A week later after the game was out
>Threads popping up shilling the game and claiming it's the greatest thing ever
>Thought I was missing something so I picked it back up and finished it
>Still thought it was shit

Sasuga undertalefags, the game sucks ass.
Lisa is far superior.

>>387253139
your post makes me wanna puke

never reply to me or my posts ever again

>>387253091
difficulty is bad

>>387253201
It's quite a shame you didn't like Undertale, I hope you had fun with LISA though, heard it was a pretty nice game.

>>387253201
I loved Undertale! I'm sorry you didn't though

>>387253317
>>387253343
There's something afoot here...

>>387252920
>All other indies wants to win a pultizer or something
that's a very inaccurate generalization of the indie scene. I can agree with your statement about the quality of undertale, but to pretend like all other indie titles are pseudo art trying to earn a metal is just false.

seriously man.. it's comments like this that make people hate undertale fans. I know you don't really mean it, but people assume we're just a bunch of pretentious assholes when they read shit like that.

>>387253419
I can't be nice to someone on /v/?

>>387253317
>>387253343
Are you LARPing, pretending you're doing the fucking pacifist shit in undertale to me?

>>387252530
>((Original)) gameplay.
Literally ripped off SMT negotiations and shmups.

>>387253516
No, I'm just an adult that can gracefully respect other opinions

>>387253516
I genuinely like both Lisa and Undertale.

>>387253563
oh snap!

>>387253482
The final fucking boss of the internet didn't earn its title by being nice wtf.

Hate hate hate hate.

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Skyrim™ is the greatest RPG of all time

>>387247960
all of them

on /vg/, at least

I don't get this shit game, but ok. I think it's the only game besides Unlimited Sage I've played and outright hated, but I guess everyone is entitled to their shit opinions.

>>387252074
color scheme suggests gamefaqs

>>387251897
>Hating a game because of it's fanbase
This has always been incredibly childish and just cements the fact that /v/ is just one big proto-hipster community

>>387247675
you

go

back

too

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>>387246098
>mfw i never actually noticed that. Twice.

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>>387250524
have you NOT played Planet Robobot this recently?

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>>387247949
you ready to debate, Codyfam?

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>>387246098
>played before it got popular so had zero expectations
>went in completely blind, not even knowing about the spare mechanic
>somehow played got all the way to undyne until she basically blew my mind by telling me I didn't have to kill all the monsters on the way
>ended up killing her anyway and shit was sad
>got the most saddest neutral ending where only papyrus survives
>all of it made pacifist even more satisfying

I feel like I ended up missing everything that could've deterred my experience of the game. Like everything fell into place to make it so that I get the best out of the game.

>>387253802
>tfw wanna make porn of temmie and muffet but don't want my friends to know i've drawn Undertale stuff

>>387245647
Imagine thinking Automata is the greatest RPG lmao

>>387253716
>I le hate le game because its popular
Ok..?

>>387248547
Its not really SJW in the slightest it just has a huge fanbase filled with them.
Its not a 10/10 game but it's definitely worth playing, The battlesystem and music are fantastic.

>>387254313
The initial first few months of Undertale's launch was probably the best time to play it without getting spoiled.

>>387249195
>PARODY ACCOUNT

>>387252813
Underage.

>>387253716
>Didn't like Unlimited SaGa

Who's the shitter now?

I'd love for Taro to talk about the game at length

lol who

>>387252813
Mad-ass roastie LMAO

>>387249000
How is he obnoxious in any way?

>>387251437
I agree with you

>>387254432
Is there anything lower IQ than caring how other people feel about a game when articulating your opinions about it?

Tons of morons like my favorite things, that's not the creator's fault

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>>387254325
>favorite artist refuses to do Temmie lewds because it's supposed to be Temmie's (the original character designer) interpretation of "herself"

>>387253343
That passive-aggressiveness, lmao. Just do your usual shpiel of "FUCK YOU UNDERTALE RULES YOU FUCKING HATER" already, it will be far less petty.

>>387246235
>>387246821
>>387247693
>>387249895
You don't have to be a contrarian or a hipster to hate 2D RPGs that have nothing going for them but one admittedly fairly interesting gimmick.

Fanbase seals it, It's like Rick and Morty - something that is ok being propelled to the higher echelons of popularity by fanbases that are genuinely abhorrent. Fuck off.

>>387254738
She sees herself as a retard with a dozen clones?
Damn.

>>387245647
The thing about Undertale is that it's a good RPG if you've played a bunch of traditional RPG's first and understand what it's subverting

>>387254325
Do it for the greater good.

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>>387254738
i don't think Chang would mind all the porn she got
even that one collaboration effort minus8 did

>>387254839
I don't do that because I don't care enough how other people feel about video games

If you actually do, that's probably something you should work on

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>>387254532
I second you.

>>387254839
Why do you assume the worst out of people anon?

>>387251741
You sound bitter, anon.

>>387245647

Well he has a shit opinion but it is his

>>387254991
Lel, you're on a forum dedicated to the opinions of people that supposedly play video games though.