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Vanilla WoW thread
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>The simple days of Barrens chat and doing stupid shit like wearing agi gear on a warrior because you had no idea what the fuck you were doing are gone
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Any day one players here?

>die
>unable to retrieve corpse because shit is so glitched
>already addicted to the game so just make a new character when you die
>starting zones littered with the same corpses for days they become landmarks like it's Mount Everest
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>>387241270
How many years ago was this again? 12?

I'm getting old. Fuck you, OP.
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im a girl btw
no i cant join voice
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>>387241143
Any news of a good vanilla server ever coming out?
Alternately any new MMOs that look good?
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>>387241143
But why? Legion is the best WoW ever has been take off your nostalgia glasses and sub for Legion we need all of you!!
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>>387241697
>voice chat
>2004
iirc most people didn't have it
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>>387241735
MMO is a dead market. Too expensive, too risky. Devs tried for a solid decade to dethrone WoW and couldn't. Many tried, many died, now there buried together on the countryside.
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>>387241143
>Vanilla WoW
>Picture of a dwarf hunter, human warrior, a mage and a fucking demon hunter.
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>Finally find a decent Vanilla server which isn't overhyped or P2W etc
>Find add-ons for 1.1.12 and install them all
>Setup UI
>Play for an hour and remember what absolute hell vanilla questing is
>Not played since
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>>387241846
This was actually vanilla WoW box art inside the flap, newfag.
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>>387241803
dont you remember all the shitty cam mics people used
but youre right either that or nothing
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>>387241846
>Killing a dragon in Zul'Gurub
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>>387241903
>>387241803
vent came out in 2002 and it was required to do anything higher than UBRS
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>>387241508
>day one
>being able to play the game
you must have been extremely lucky. the first two weeks of playing it was nothing but sitting in queues for me.
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>>387242181
See this is why you played between 12:00am and 5:00am, then slept during classes in Jr High
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>leveling prot pally because I didn't want to die
>skip deadmines until lvl 35 because I didn't want to die
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>>387241846
>never had the fucking physical box
fuck off
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>>387242181
Worst thing about very early WoW is they were banning, and I mean PERMABANNING people for less than serious shit. No warnings. Swearing, racial slurs, and most commonly roof top camping and shooting people. Was totally part of the game for a ranged class, but they hadn't programmed the guards to do anything about it yet, so they were banning people who just bought a 50 dollar game and forcing them to buy it again, lol.
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>>387241836
A few MMOs have survived well enough, though the shotgun-blast approach taken to their development led to far, far more being pushed out the door and failing immediately. FF14 is still doing well, and LOTRO is somehow still holding on. The issue is that the same level of audience just doesn't seem to be there anymore, and the audience that exists is prone to latch on to one MMO and not bother with any new ones coming down the pipe.
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>get WoW demo
>quest says I need to go kill a guy
>go to cave
>traverse cave fighting enemies
>use my map so I dont go in circle because its a big cave
>kill the guy
>take his head back to quest npc
>a few years ago
>download WoW demo again for fun
>same quest
>the target is standing at the mouth of the cave, not even in it
>kill him
>a box comes up that lets me turn the quest in from the cave
game sure has come a long way.
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>let's discuss the worst version of the game, even worse than WoD

no thanks
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>>387241143
Do modern MMOs do the fantasy cover box art thing anymore? I miss it
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>actually playing with people you know from reallife
man it used to be so popular
now noone wants to touch it anymore
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>>387242909
Yeah I really miss that time the game had a community
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>>387242909
You must have been an unfertilized egg in 2004 if you think vanilla WoW sucks. It isn't playable by today's standards but back then everything was new and there had not been anything like it. Stay the fuck out of nostalgia threads
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>>387241508
>Day one
>Kil'Jaeden
>Make it to goldshire
>EMERGENCY MAIT!
>Come back 2 days later
>Play for couple hours, get out to westfall
>EMERGENCY SHUT DOWN
>Two more days...
>Repeat this for the first 2 1/2 weeks of the game being out

I did however play on beta server #7 as a nelf hunter. Having no talents yet was pretty fucking awesome.
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>When you finally have enough gold to get your first mount
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>>387241508
I remember mobs floating in the air in Durotar, at one point killing Zanzil became a boss fight because only the ranged could attack him and he regularly reset. Maybe that was just Arathor EU but launch was shit for me, if it wasn't queues it was everything glitching/bugging.
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>>387243125
>It isn't playable by today's standards
If they could somehow hide the mechanics so people couldn't min-max right off the bat, while simultaneously updating the graphics slightly, it would be great today I think.
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>>387241901
Did you have the dwarf box, or the orc box?
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>>387241143
>Image on the back of case
>Clearly a Night Elf Demon Hunter
>Make character, disappointed by no DH
>Have to wait 12 years for it
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>fucking around with a friend in Darkshire when we were new and everything was fresh
>found we could jump on top of the inn from the FP area
>I somehow get myself inside of the chimney
>I can't jump out or hearth as I'm technically at the spot my hearth is set
>think I'm totally fucked, ticket a GM
>one teleports over onto the roof, wearing the trademark robes and all
>he does a /laugh and teleports me to the town center

It always stuck with me for some reason, I'd never met an admin/mod in any game that was that nice before.
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>60 second sap
>Camp out escort quests at the halfway point
>Sap enemy player, they're forced to watch their escort walk away and despawn
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>>387241143
I've been playing The Elysium Project which is a vanilla private server with x1 xp rate and PvE/PvP servers. It has a decently sized pop and is only growing right now.
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>>387241143
I was a ne druid because there were so few, so I was unique! Specced to be feral, but I was always stuck healing for groups.
Even when you could choose which spec your gear was (first expansion? I don't remember) and I got all feral stuff, I was still a cut rate healer.
Then I was a healer in CoH and loved it. Who knows?
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>>387243142
>When you play a Paladin and getting a mount consisted of walking across the room and talking to a guy
Must suck to not have faith
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>>387241143
Molten Core was boring garbage. Anyone who wants 40 man raiding back never did them, this is a fact.
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>>387243427
>Followed by that long ass quest for your epic mount
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>>387243327
youre a fucking cunt
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>Getting together with your friends on a Friday night to spend hours in BRD
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>>387243483
>which was optional if you had the money to spend like everyone else had to
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>>387243327
Alternatively you could kill them so they would be forced to walk 10 minutes back to their corpse or deal with 10 minutes of crippling resurrection sickness.
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>>387243431
40 man raiding was great when you were in high school and had the time. I wouldn't do it today, yeah
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>>387243431
It was pretty comfy if you had everyone in chat and did it on a weekend. Unless everyone was try harding you could auto-follow and get food / go to the bathroom between bosses.
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W O R L D S E R V E R I S D O W N
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>>387243327
If you polymorphed a person while swimming in deep water (common in Booty bay) they could drown and take the durability hit to their gear. A trolling phase I went through for awhile.
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>>387243595
>Being the baby bitch paladin who didn't have his proper epic mount
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>>387243639
>10 minutes of crippling resurrection sickness
>grave yard res
>hit shadow meld / stealth / just sit there if it's a slow zone
>even if you somehow die like that just normal res on the spot
>go make a sandwich / tea

Yeah real crippling
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>>387243639
>Just straight up killing them when you can force them to sit helpless watching the escort they put so much time into walk away and disappear
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If you like Warcraft so much, why don't you come help on wowpedia?
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Was the only way to get a group as a rogue starting one yourself? Poor bastards, every UBRS group advertising specifically mentioned they werent inviting rogues, yet rogues would still hopelessly whisper them trying to get in.
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>>387243431
I am in a guild doing Molten Core and Ony right now, yeah it is pretty boring. The only interesting raid is Zul'Gurub. Can't wait to do BWL though, and maybe AQ.
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>>387243327
PvP before diminishing returns/PvP adjusted CC times was the wild west.
>tfw infinite fear lock
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>>387243836
>can't play for 10 minutes

Yeah real crippling
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>>387243923
>Why don't you work for free, for a company that is consistently destroying their own lore + game
No.
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>>387243951
>Want to do a dungeon
>Sit in Org for an hour spamming "LF1M tank" in trade chat
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Vanilla wow was and still is shit.
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*blocks your PUG*
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>>387243792
>mind control people
>run them off a cliff
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>>387243142
>guild leader gave me a single gold after running me through Deadmines
>I felt rich as fuck after that
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>>387244118
You never played it. It's like saying Goldeneye was a bad FPS back in 1997. It broke the mold.
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>when AV finally pops
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>>387244049
By archiving old lore, you can actually make sure that Blizzard can never erase it
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>>387244068
>Roll tank
>Get all the dungeon pussy
>Still feel shitty because warrior was boring as fuck in Vanilla and that's time not spent grinding xp
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>>387244068
>be a warrior tank in pre bis / t1
>be tired of doing dungeons, they are a chore now
ah well, the game got me on the treadmill for a while. the only thing i need now is a dps set, and i can't be fucking bothered to get it. i've been burned out. gearing a tank is hard work
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>>387244169
>Infinite range mind vision
>Creeping on players halfway across the map just to make them paranoid
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>>387244229

>It's the same one from when you went to bed last night
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>the paladin design in vanilla
yeah i bet all the people coming from warcraft 3 wanting to be arthas would love to be forced to be healing buffbots
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>>387244229
>When AV pops
>When you spend your entire Saturday morning, afternoon and night in the same AV
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>>387244068
>looking for 1 tank for nearly an hour
>have replaced dps that left the group out of impatience several times
>warriors who want to do damage refuse to respec prot for one dungeon even considering the circumstances
>another rival group gets a tank after searching for 2 minutes
And this happened on high pop servers at peak hours
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>>387243142
>not killing the raptors behind STV arena and vendoring ALL the shit they drop
get your mount money in 8 hours or less
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>>387241508
Close, I was gone the first couple days but given all the server problems still happening the first week I didn't miss much.
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>>387244367
>When Ret Paladins finally became wanted in TBC
>But only for the 3% crit rate
I'll take what I can get I guess
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>>387244159
it's near impossible to do this boss without voice comms

the only way is to make sure warlocks, tanks and healers all know what they are doing before the pull

in a pug that's a death sentence
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>>387244367
also wearing fucking cloth and leather armor because no plate had healing stats
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>>387241143
>tfw it took ages to realize the pyroblast isn't coming from the gun but from an off screen mage
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>>387244557
>I AM THE RET
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I'm playing on a 5x BC server. Couldnt imagine leveling 1-60 in Vanilla. I'd rather buy a character or pay a power leveler. Never again.

I do wish they didn't add resilience to the game though. Totally separated PVE and PVP as you hard earned raid gear is garbage in PVP. Makes raiding pointless to me except to maybe get a weapon or trinket.
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>>387244903
>warmeme
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>>387244979
How'd you know?
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>>387244274
>warrior
>boring
>back when people would use all 3 stances in a fight
>back when people would swap weapons in fights depending on what stance you swap too, what skill you were about to use, and how much rage you had

Warriors were the true OGs of vanilla, I remember coming back in wrath and blowing people away because I had a sword and board macro to deflect spells and shield wall / sunder armour
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DELETE THIS THREAD

IT WAS HER TURN

HER FUCKING TURN

NOT MY PRESIDENT
NOT
MY
PRESIDEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>387244861
>shitty music with low res pvp video

yup it's vanilla. Anybody remember worldofwarcraftvideo.com, I think it was? Predated youtube
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>>387245051
x5 TBC and the general mentality of a warmeme kid
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>>387243327
You're worse than the pieces of shit who leave one piece of food in chests.
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>>387245262
>oh shit a chest
>two pieces of darnassian bleu
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>>387244401
>respec
dude that shit cost a fuck load of money, it was like 20g to respec. Also I tanked as an arms warrior no problem they didn't introduce some arbitrary "defence" Stat until later
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>>387245356
alterac swiss is the superior azerothian cheese you uncultured elf shit

anyone who says dalaran sharp should also be shot
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kek
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>>387245386
Yeah most dungeons could be tanked without prot spec no problem
There's a special place in hell for warriors that sit in a group for an hour and a half instead of picking up a shield
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>>387245447
Quick, start a thread on /ck/
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>>387245594
>not levelling as prot solely by doing dungeons
wew

that's how i got my warrior to 60 on elysium

kill me
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>>387245192
Duel me, I'll rek you cunt
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>>387245447
>Cheese made by stupid inbred peasants is better then cheese cultivated by the mages of dalaran

We were having such a good thread too.
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>>387245842
Sure, direct me to the vanilla server and we can get started
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>>387245949
the nutty, round, full bodied flavour of alterac swiss and the craftsmanship of the dwarven people in making it is unparalleled by any other cheesemaker in azeroth

waving your hands over a load of milk isn't cheese. it's cheatse.
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There will never be another Illegal Danish
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>>387241143
>Vanilla WoW thread

It's shit.

/thread
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>>387246108
All those memes forever lost to time.
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>>387243142
I got mine as soon as I hit 40 because when I was level 10 in Durotar some level 60 put in general chat "If you find me, I will give you 20 Gold". I just randomly found him while questing and I got all that money. I felt like a king. Then I went to Tyr's Hand at 60 and grinded for weeks to get my epic training.
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>>387246274
Like memes in the rain
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>Be alliance priest
>Go to elevator between barrens and thousand needles
>Mind control horde into walking off the edge
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>>387245568
I remember buying some strategy guide just to get comics like that
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>>387243254
No because half the fucking specs are dog shit or don't work. WoW has come a long way mechanically since Vanilla WoW.
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>>387243327
>Snake Trap used to trigger of critters
>Would kill the critter then go after anything else in the area
>Even if they were unflagged for PvP

I used to camp in Westfall for hours just killing lowbies with that trick then going off and taming a wild beast to trick them into attacking it/flagging with Eyes of the Beast. I was a fucking asshole.
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>Playing Hunter
>Hit Need every time it's available
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Are pvp videos still a thing? Watching them back in the day taught me a lot about pvp, and shaped my musical taste for years.
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>>387246470
And it did so by making every spec the same. So what has really changed?
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>>387246528
Snake trap wasn't vanilla.

Now, there was a glitch in vanilla where you could kill people with explosive trap in duels. That was great.
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>you will never play an MMO class as amazing as vanilla/BC warlock
i'm still looking for a class that's at least half as cancerous
no game's done it for me, doubt one ever will
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>>387246715
Wrath/MoP had class uniqueness and viability for most specs.

It was WoD/Cata where Blizz went full retard on making classes play way to similarly.
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>>387241270
Tfw i was that nelf hunter rocking herod shoulders and that sm helmet
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>>387241270
But agi gave you CRITS, MAD CRITS

I loved when it made sense and I was stupid and thought I was hot shit.
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>>387244159
Did people actually PUG raids in Vanilla?
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>>387246560
I'M THE BIGGEST THE BEST
BETTER THEN THE REST
BETTER THEN THE REST
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>>387241143
okay so storytime

>but game month after release before xmas times
>roll warrior because they can use almost any weapon.
>friend eventually gets game rolls pally
>we duel in goldshire and he kicks my shit in because heal and bubble
>get depressed but level up
>get into good guild and he begs to get in
>get him into guild start doing MC then BWL yada
>His DKP is like 10x because he literally never misses a raid
>ends up using some his to get me some nice pieces
he was a cool dude last time I saw him he was bald oh where does the time go
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>>387247079
First time I walked into MC was in a pug. I got Tranq Shot, but nothing else despite being 1 of 3 hunters in the whole raid.
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>>387247080
WELL I'M NOT PARALYZED
BUT I SEEM TO BE
STRUCK
BY
YOU
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>>387247079
If you count UBRS sure. Pretty sure I saw ZG and AQ20 pugs as well, but never any """real""" raids. Though I did play on a pretty shitty server.
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>>387245053
this pretty much

t. arms warrior PvPer in arena and prot raid tank for BC.
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>>387246953
There is nothing wrong with the talent trees/specs in vanilla WoW. Every talent tree is useful.
The only people who post nonsense like this are Wrathbabbies who think Ret Paladins and moonkins druids should do the same DPS as real dps classes.
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>You will never again put a bunch of shit on a dude, fear him, then talk shit in chat as he slowly dies while running around
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>>387247374
People would literally kick you outta groups or laugh at you for playing ret/moonkins in vanilla. Vanilla WoW balance was awful.
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>>387247594
I used to love anticipating Warlocks Fear's as a Warrior.

I did most of my plays out of Berserker Stance.
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>>387247374
>There is nothing wrong with the talent trees/specs in vanilla WoW. Every talent tree is useful

Survival Hunter was not a tree you would want to fully invest into. The first few points for extra damage on certain mob types sure, but the rest was pure shit in comparison to the other 2.
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>>387247228
I wiped my group because I stood too close to a wall and apperantly triggered some imps on the other side to pull the entire instance on top of us
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>>387247374
Incorrect. Every class in vanilla had one good spec and 2 shit ones. Small exceptions like warrior and Rogue, but the rest you were stuck with 1 spec. If you wanted to get into a raid group anyway.
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>>387241270
>Didn´t noticed about "Hide Helmet" till lvl cap so he never wore one cause they were ugly as fuck.
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>tfw the magic of vanilla WoW is gone
>tfw your virginity isn't
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New Azeroth has been around longer than Old Azeroth ever was.
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>>387247661
Only had that happen in wrath with my arms warrior, in vanilla people were playing dps shadow priests in raids and no one cared
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>>387247863
21/8/22

Only Rogue spec
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>>387247928
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Anal [Rupture]
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>>387247863
All 3 were good for mages, only Fire was bad because MC. But once that was yesterday's news they were all good
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>Rogue tries to gank you right at the end of an escort quest
>Bubble and finish it
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>>387248014
That's because dps shadow priests were mana batteries to the whole raid. Ret/Moonkin brought nothing but sadness
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>>387247661
people that want to make all specs viable dont understand vanilla and how its built. by its design it didnt mean to make all specs viable, its not a flaw of the game, different specs and talents meant for different purposes in a game. and you can clearly see this underlying idea by their design. they arent assumed to be all equally good at everything. like all equal dps. they meant for different things.

Aswell as different classes suppose to provide different things, and not all be equal. like at all. some classes/specs are better at dpsing and its their archetype by the design, their role. other are for different things (im not only mean in a raid enviroment, game was larger than this, i mean all game aspects in general, for instance part of the game such as gold farming with all different methods, grinding, leveling, being tanky and surviving in pvp, soloing some content like elites, burst damage, countering certained things and classes, being super mobile, controly and so on). different talents and specs covered all of this aspects of the game. It gave you options and choices. and its all works together in the game enviroment which makes it all diverse and fun. again it wasnt meant to be "all specs and talents choices you make suppose to be equal dps in pve" design philosophy.

This homogenizing philosophy that blizz devs applied later and what is in your head now, which in your opinion feels natural and " obviously good for the game", is what essentially made a modern wow and killed the spirit of vanillawow gameplay. When vanilla is build on diversity, differences, unequality, good and bad choices for you task, compeletely different archetypes of classes/spec, not only in pve enviroment, but in their stance in the game in general. even shits like roleplaying and lore.
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>>387247863
Mage KINDA had two specs.

Fire was arguably better than arcane even. Its just no one could play fire because of all the raids being immune.
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>>387247928
Brutal
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>>387242853
You suck.
They made the beginner stuff much more fun and streamlined and then added the "explore the big cave full of enemies" later in the game.

The shit you played is designed for people who have never played an RPG before.

The shit you want starts showing up again like 10 levels later.
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>>387247863
This is how you can spot a Catababby when they think each class has "3 specs"

in vanilla builds weren't just based on one tree. As a mage alone I could name 10 different mage builds easily with only 3 trees.
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"HUH!"
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>>387248186
>different specs and talents meant for different purposes in a game
There was literally no point to balance and feral.
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>>387247752
survival was great in pvp for wyvern sting
And every single hunter will put lots of points in survival, regardless of if they're BM or marks.
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>Questing, doing dungeons, showing up to defend against people invading your territory
>Having a blast
>Get to "endgame"
>The game is completely different, almost fundamentally so
what the fuck happened?
did they have another team handle the raids and shit?
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>>387248363
Balance/Resto is the best druid pvp build in the game, they can literally 2v1 melee classes.
Feral was also good, solid tank in pve, 2% crit buff to your group, good flag runner in pvp.
Feral/Resto also for another pvp build.
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>>387246528
Shit, I did the tame bait-and-switch in Vanilla and TBC.

Go to a lowbie zone. Tame something local. Name it something local, or give it a lore-inspired name to make it seem rare.

Hide out of sight and use Eyes of the Beast to walk the animal around slowly.

When a lowbie hits it, let it murder them.
If the lowbie kills it (because pets used to have to be leveled) just put an arrow in them and find a new spot.
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>>387248293
No it doesn't, it's all shit
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>>387248426
endgame depending on the patch had all of those things
questing for attunements which regularly had you go into dungeons or things like the war of the shifting sands which had pvp going on over the geysers or the twilight cultist farming areas
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>>387248554
Feral was not a good tank in pve. Not in dungeons, definitely not in raids.
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>>387248164
that was bc onwards. in vanilla spriests were only good for pvp.
what they did however was to heal and try to hide the fact they were specced shadow
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>>387248554
>feral
>good for tanking anything above level 50 when they are 60
They had no threat or damage mitigation
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>I see from your CV you only have 512MB of RAM? Care to explain?
>WoW is your first MMO you said? Mmm-hm..
>We've decided to go another direction with our composition needs, but thanks for your time
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>>387248836
512 MB of ram isn't even enough to run youtube reliably nowadays.
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>>387248976
my chrome is using 2gb of ram and im just visiting gmail, 4chan and sadpanda
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>>387248186
This guy has it right.

Some specs in vanilla were just there for fun. It made the game feel more organic and less structured that way. Particularly how every class had all sorts of abilities/spells that were completely useless in the "serious" game but Blizzard made them nonetheless and it was a blast messing about with them. Like Warlock summoning Doomguards.

People that complain about vanilla WoW balance are the kind of cancerous people who Blizzard foolishly decided to pander to a while back and killed the game in the process.

It's the same kind of autists who call people "genwunners" because they like the original Pokemon series even though the battle system is broken as fuck.
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>>387248716
>>387248807

>feral having shit threat and mitigation

yeah, neither of you dumbasses played vanilla. ferals had way better threat gen than warriors since theirs actually scaled with dmg and they could do a decent amount of it. especially with better gear.

ferals were seldomly used for tanking but could pull it off. especially on mobs that were slow but hard hitting. something like patchwerk offtank.

ferals were really good for 5man too. not because of mitigation, in this reguard they were worse but vanilla 5 man and 10 man raids were easy, but swipe spam gave they very easy aoe threat gen.

now fuck off.
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>>387248976
512MB isnt enough to run any modern OS
Its the minimum for Vista but I had a shit laptop with 2GB ram a decade ago with vista and it ran like shit even with all the dumb visual effects turned off
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>>387249213
I played retail vanilla as a scrub and have played on various vanilla servers for around 2 years playtime over the years
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>>387249338
Everyone was a scrub on vanilla retail.

Part of the magic of old WoW is that you sucked ass at the game.
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>>387249338
yeah and yet you clearly dont know shit about the game. ive played since the beta and played prot warr in high end raiding guilds till end of cata.
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>>387249467
I still remember doing MC and everyone had shit enchants on their weapon just to get a cool glow and no one gave a fuck
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>>387248716
>>387248807

You just played with shitty ferals then
I'm playing on Elysium and I've had feral druids in my groups tank all the 5 man/10mans, and my guild one of the main tanks is a feral druid.

They can't main tank the 40mans but they are still very good for offtanking + battle rez + 2% crit buff + innervate, they bring good offtanking and lots of utility.
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fuck the alliance
horde is retarded

horde players are shitty teens and faggy "young adults"
alliance players are dick shoved up their asses faggots

i hate you all
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>>387249467
One of the only thing separating the average player from the scrubs was how often they walked backwards. Holding down the s key to backpedal in the face of any danger was the scrubbiest looking thing for anyone to do.
>rogue attacks you out of stealth
>backpedal as soon as stun breaks, die quickly after
or even in pve
>get living bomb debuff
>backpedal immediately out of fear and get everyone killed
Way less efficient than strafing at max speed
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>>387249842
lots of love
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>>387249876
>he didn't have a mouse macro to instantly turn 180 degrees
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>>387248716
Not true, my main tank was a feral druid for both Mc and bwl
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>>387250239
my condolences
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>>387243815
I was a pala main and I knew another pala main IRL who got that rare book from Maraudon that you could turn into a great one hander through a long ass quest that ended at Onixia. He sold it for 1k and immediately bought a battleground ram mount for 900g. I never stopped mocking him for it. He got really defensive about it as buyer's remorse kicked in. It was extra hilarious once I got the epic pala mount and made his look like cheap store brand shit.
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>>387249213
>Let me tell you why you were wrong, but not actually provide anything
>lmao get fucked *dabs*

Feral was-a-shit for both damage and tanking. Next you'll tell me how good paladin tanks were.
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>>387245386
>>387245594
I had a love/hate relationship with tanking in vanilla. I was a warrior and loved arms for leveling, but understood I had to tank in dungeons. I never dpsed them because back then I was under the impression that warrior dps sucked until like max level. Tanking was fun when it went smooth but it gave me so much fucking anxiety. This is before aoe tanking so I had to keep tab sundering and hoping I kept threat over healers and dps.
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>>387249842
>t. Kel'Thuzad
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Oh yeah I remember

>spend ages finding a group for WC
>finally find one
>tank doesn't speak English
>Naturally he needs every time he can
>Says a sentence containing the words "fuck" and "mother" after you call him out on his bullshit
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>>387241270
>play mage
>agi gives armor and crits
>holy shit I definitely need that
Simpler times...
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>>387247079
Only on a new server where all the pros hopped to. I forgot what it was called but there used to be a server where people would PUG shit like BWL. I want to say it was Magtheridon or something but fuck if I remember.
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>>387246885
That sweet sweet vanilla/TBC lock.
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I just miss 2004-2007.
Best years in gaming.
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>>387250443
i loved messing with the foreigners on my server. in vanilla i had a large population of brazilians and georgians on my server who would refuse to speak english unless you start insulting them. For some reason, Georgians got insanely offended when you insulted their mothers.
Sad thing is the foreigner population kept skyrocketing until every english speaking guild transferred off, killing the server for good
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Even when I was a teenager I thought this game was so shit compared to the other MMO's in the market, it has always been babbys casualized, handholding first MMO.
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Only vanilla fags will remember a true sense of exploration without flying mounts and wall jumping.
I spent nights climbing into ahn'qurai before silithus was actually filled with quests, or just swimming around to see what is behind certain zones that are walled off. Truly a magical time
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Is that elysium server decent? I played a little during launch but kinda drifted off.
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>>387250912
You were a pretty dumb teenager then
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any wow vanilla servers with 0.5 GC and double DPS?

the combat system is too slow if you're not multiboxing
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>>387241951
ZG didn't come out until after BWL, definitely not at launch.
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>>387241270
>read that int gives you faster training with weapons
>just got some random polearm on my hunter
>start to take int gear from healers and casters just to get more skills with polearms
>herods axe drops in SM and looks cool
>decides to go melee and grabs that axe
I bet they loved me
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>>387250847
>Sad thing is the foreigner population kept skyrocketing until every english speaking guild transferred off, killing the server for good

That's almost like real life
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>>387250930
>figure out how to get ontop of buildings in tanaris
>shoot at any fagget horde that comes through
>guards can't do anything
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>>387250947
I've been playing there since launch, it's the best private server right now, easily.
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>>387250968
because I didn't like the kiddies MMO at the time?
WoW back then is exactly what Overwatch is to FPS now, a cartoony casualized game aimed towards a young audience.
WoW removed the whole RPG aspect from MMORPG's
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>>387244179
>be guild leader on Alleria
>take the guild bank funds from my alt and use it to buy blue weapons off the AH
>didnt have a tabard for mnoths because i just kept taking money from the bank and never bothered spending my own for it
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>>387250930
>I spent nights climbing into ahn'qurai before silithus was actually filled with quests
Man, that hits me hard. It hurts to know this kind of experience is dead and buried.
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>>387250318
you didnt provide anything to backup your retaded argument but thats somehow valid?

ferals could get the armor cap with decent gear and buffs. with talents a druid could easily get around 30 percent dodge. they didnt get much defense from gear however due to high armor and a very high hp pool they could tank fine. compared to a warrior healing one wasnt much worse. while they did take more damage with a high hp pool the healers wouldnt need to panic. incoming damage was predictable.


they also did generate notably better threat. there are encounters where ferals are shit and its anything with resists requirements or where a fearbreaker is needed at least on horde side.
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Rogues are scissors.
Warriors are rock.
Hunter, Priests, Druids, Mages, Shamans and Paladins are paper.
Warlocks are mushrooms.

Paper beats rock.
Scissors beats paper.
Scissors also happens to beat rock.
Until rock hits 60 at which point rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine, and then also kills paper. And would kill scissors, but he cant find scissors because scissors are invisible.

So scissors continue to beat paper and avoid rock and that is called "balance".
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>like the game's lore, art direction, used to enjoy the community and RP
>basically all of this is gone now
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>>387251068
That gif must be as old as wow itself
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>>387244218
Goldeneye (and even more Perfect Dark) is still more fun that modern FPSs though, the problems with the game were the shitty framerates and the N64 controller, both easily fixed by playing the PC version that some fans made
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>play WoTLK
>disenchant becomes a possible loot option if you have an enchanter in the group
>enchanter needs on every BoE green and blue because he "needs" the materials
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>>387245106
Yup, remember the intro video and everything

Anyway, who remembers the 3 songs that every PvPer used

>LET THE BODIES HIT THE FLOOR
>BREAKING ME DOWN BREAK ME DOWN
>VIOLENT PORNOGRAPHY CHOKING CHICKS AND SODOMY
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'memba when you had to prove you were capable of the minimum amount of required skill before you were allowed to do something?
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>>387243295
i used to write christmas-greetings to the gm's on christmas day, they showed up and thanked me 3 years in a row. they showed up more often back then i think
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>>387244861
>vanilla pvp
man I miss being able to burst people in mere seconds. In modern wow it takes fucking ages to kill anybody. Coupled that with the fact that every class now has invulnerability and an escape plus healers being insanely OP PVP is a complete shitfest. Fuck blizzard
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>>387251406
I used to read Warcraft lore all the time during Vanilla and TBC. Now it seems 10 nobodies are going to kill Sargeras.
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>>387247928
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>>387241143

My friend and I used to pick one BoE epic on the auction house and buy them all up so that none were available, then put one of the BoE epics up for a ridiculous amount of gold--like triple to quadruple the actual value. Then the other one of us would spam in the town general asking for that particular item and offering like 500 or so on top of the price we put it up for, usually pretending to be Chinese goldfarmers. We'd say "ME NEED X ITEM BRING TO ME FOR X GOLD." We'd always get messages saying there was one on the AH, but literally EVERY time someone would buy our item hoping to turn a quick buck. Then we'd say sry already got the item, split the gold, and wait to do it again a day later. This was when getting even 1g took some amount of time. We amassed thousands upon thousands of gold doing this, we were easily among the richest people on Llane.

Those were good times. RIP WoW
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>>387246274
ARCANITE REAPER
HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>387241270
>you will never wear a strength cape on a mage just because it was a cool long cape instead of those gay short ones again
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>>387251595
The tbc dungeons had excellent difficulty, once the heroics got patched a bit down and didn't require some raid gear.
All modern dungeons just being aoe grind fests are not fun at all
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>>387251090
>I never played vanilla wow but it made me mad because it stole my ever quest friends
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>>387248152
>the rogue didn't kill the NPC being escorted, then vanish
p l e b
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>>387251854
oh god i did that alot
fuck the stats i dont want to look like a tard
pure fun
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>>387251879
nice projecting there kiddo
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>>387251595
In vanilla, the only attunement that took any effort was the Onyxia chain. here's how it went down for horde players
>do LBRS quest
>do UBRS quest
>track down Rexxar whos patrolling the entirety of desolace, who then tells you to
>go to WPL, get another quest for UBRS
>use new dragon disguise to go into a dragon cave in dustwallow marsh, get 3 quests to kill boss level dragons
>kill boss dragons in winterspring, tanaris and swamp of sorrows. you need a group for this or you need to be good at kiting because they had no leash
>get new quest from rexxar, back to UBRS
>attuned
a lot of SHIT TO DO
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>>387251553
>play WotLK
>DEing mats gives me skill points in enchanting
>DE option is now a possibility in LFD
>I don't get the skill up points if people DE shit
>I get NOTHING from people using the DE button
>but at least one enchanter is still required to have the DE button available
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>>387251576
Getting away with murder!
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>>387251765
damn that's fucking genius
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Defias Pillager attempts to run away in fear!
"HUH!" "HUH!" "HUH!" "HUH!" "HUH!" "HUH!"
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>getting 80 gold for your first mount
>leveling from 58 to 60

it was painful but worth every second.
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>>387241951
>thoros, dondarion and jorah are not maxed
>hound and tormund are
shit
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>>387251730
The difference between vanilla and every other expansion is you were visiting asaroth and now you are dictating it's direction
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>>387244159
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMylc2Or1Ic
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>>387248554
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klm2Q7xu_d4
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>>387252330
Holy shit i used to quote this video all the time
>PALLY SHIT NEVER DROPS
kills me everytime
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>>387245568
i remember these comics. they were pretty fun an accurate.
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>>387251595
This one breaks it down better.
More complicated than it really was though.
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>>387251951
That doesn't make any sense
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>Feral was the most fun it has ever been in Vanilla
>You will never once get to play it in a raid on any private server because of the absolutely bedrock-solid state of adherence to the meta

The removal of powershifting was what made cat into the shitty Rogue-lite that was never fun to play again. At least Bear was still fun in BC and Wrath.
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>>387252282
I really enjoyed the time from 56 to 60, because I spent a lot of time my favorite zone winterspring, just hunting yetis. The horn quest had a tiny droprate anyway.
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>>387243295
I have some stories in late wrath and TBC about friendly GMs. I wish I had screenshots because if I greentexted just one of them people would just shitpost me to death, the GMs used to be really nice people.
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>>387251023
You were the bane of all pugs.
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>be priest
>mindcontrol hordies and chat with them using the /e command
>occasionally encounter other priests who can talk back
>make friends with some of them
>eventually delete my char to start on horde side
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>>387244259
They just edit it out anyway. Most of the old lore is there. Blizzard will never be able to erase WC1/2 and the books. The Last Guardian, The Rise of the Horde, Lord of the Clans etc. People who give a shit about warcraft will always have those.
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>>387251143

>Implying wow had guild Banks in vanilla

Nice try kid
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>>387244367
I unironically enjoyed being a defensive meleé fighter. There was nothing more satisfying than being an unstoppable tank, holding up 4-6 Hordies on my own. Don't make me link Jamaz and Zalgradis.
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>>387252590
i remember i used to farm the ghost on the frozen lake until i became 60. could not go to estrean plaugelands beacuse people attacked me constantly.
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>>387253085
are you being retarded on purpose?
do you just lack any and all reading comprehension?
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>>387245568
Holy shit, I had this brady games stratgedy guide. Do you have the picture of the old man asking someone to fetch a book?
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>>387244367
But w3 paladins were already healing buffbots without any damage
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>>387253230
This?
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>>387253489
Fucking based Anon, thanks.
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>>387253085
every guild has a guild bank. It's not built into the game though, the GM creates an alt character to be the guild's bank.
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>>387241846
Look at this dumb bastard
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>>387250304
reminds me of a friend who told me he was so good with his paladin that the guild wanted him to go DPS in MC
I joined his raid one month later and saw him using a blue leather robe, healing onyxia and I laughed harder than I should
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>>387252590
I hit 60 in EPL. Still one of my favorite zones to this day. Scourge stuff always interested me.
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>>387241836
>Devs tried for a solid decade to dethrone WoW and couldn't.
Bullfuckingshit, almost everybody copied wow. Your not gonna dethrone wow if you just base your game around it.
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who /Elysium/ here?
Vanilla WoW still exists boys, come join us.
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>>387253821
Getting dismounted every 10 seconds did not interest me as much though. East and western pleague lands had great questchains though
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>those simpler days when everything was a hunter item are gone
>those simpler days when healers used to yell at hunters for needing on useless shit are gone
>those simpler days of hunters wearing shitty shaman gear and cloth gear who only know how to backpeddle are gone
>>
Remember how fucking stupid some talents were in the earlier patches? Like the majority of Arcane, and Lacerate as the final talent for Survival?

I've been trying to find old talent calculators, pre-1.12 ones when things were starting to get better, but most of those old sites have shut down by now.
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>>387253993
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>>387254065
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uTrOc0lfXY
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>>387253993
The problem I had with Elysium was the PVP server felt like a containment server for /b/ and the PVE server was dead. Its so incredibly obnoxious that people can't keep board culture where it belongs. Also I'm skeptical about russians
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>>387254065
>mfw a hunter bid on an Asscandy during one of our BWL raids and the GM made fun of him on vent as he gave it to the only warrior who bid
>it was a min bid
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>>387252883
This is why I work everyday on archiving WC1, WC2 and WC3 related content. That way they'll be on the wiki forever, even if Blizzard stops editing the books and shit. It's fun!
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>>387253993
delete this RIGHT fucking NOW
LEGION IS THE BEST WoW HAS EVER BEEN, VANILLA IS GARBAGE
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>>387244314
explain
>new wow player
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>>387253993
>>387254163
I'm still playing my character I made day 1 on Nostalrius (called Anathema now)
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>>387254365
Well I wouldn't call it fun but good on you Anon, let me guess you used to be a roleplayer in the old days?
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>be me
>14 or 15 years old kid
>edgy as fuck
>Vanilla WoW is released
>roll Undead Male Warrior because DEATH and PAIN
>name yourself "King"
>level up to 50 with Sonic speed because ez student life
>time to PvP
>travel to Ashenvale
>go near that Alliance town surrounded by a lake
>filled with these low-leveled knife eared purple fuckers
>some of them approach you curiously
>proceed to fulfill your destiny and slay the pussies
>one's corpse even slides across the ground to the nearest tree because of a glitch, making me feel empowered
>more of Alliance scum appear to stop me
>FOR THE HORDE
>literally feel like a raid boss in my shitty level 50 gear
>eventually get stopped
>corpses everywhere
>I have become DEATH, the DESTROYER OF WORLDS

Vanilla WoW best game ever.
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>>387254660
Yep
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>>387254589
The original un-nerfed Alterac Valley would last 2-3 days on average. You could PVP for 9 hours, and the same game would be up come the morning. Lasted a week for some servers.
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>>387241143
>thread filled with nostalgia crybaby fags
Best thread all day
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>>387250304
Man, I still remember the night I got my Charger.

Getting a PUG that could clear Scholomance was nigh on impossible on my realm, had a guild but most were still levelling. Finally reached the last quest in the chain, figured it would take forever to actually do it, but that night shortly before I was about to log, the right guildies were all on at the same time and we headed up there.
Took fucking hours but I got my mount and first full clear in the same run. The sun was coming up as we ran back outside and I bunny hopped that bitch all the way back to Chillwind.

I still used it until I quit in WOD (Occasionally using the Tournament reskin) because I really felt like I earned it.
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>>387254763
Huh, US, or EU? I was on AD EU but quit during Cataclysm during launch. What they did the old world made me sick.
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>>387254589
AV used to essentially be unwinnable during vanilla since it had so many NPCs and the NPCs were actually legitimate threats to players. An AV would pop on Friday and generally finish on Sunday when everyone started logging off for work/school the next day.

One side basically had to really fuck shit up to lose.
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>>387254781
what? how is that possible? did people just stay up all night and day playing? or did the game just never end/ nobody did objectives?
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>tfw rolled on nostalrius ages ago to relive vanilla WoW
>for shits and giggles decided to level entirely to 60 as a melee hunter without using a bow/gun/crossbow at all
>it was actually fun and the PvP was great
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>>387254086
I remember hunters having a talent that increased damage against giants when using track giants
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>>387254870
Kirin Tor EU

The transition between vanilla and Cataclysm was very hard for me. I also try to put everything vanilla-related I can on the wiki to preserve it
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>>387252590
Are you me?

>be farming my last few levels
>some horde troll was doing the same thing
>we would constantly be fucking with each other
>trying to kill some rare mob
>he comes out of nowhere and smokes me
>steals my mob
>later I find him dueling dome othe horde
>hide behind a wall until they finish
>jump out and sheep the horde watching
>kill the two dueling the kill the sheeped one
>drop a tp to storm wind ontop of them and cheese it
>our battles keep escalating, more interested in finding each other then grinding
>our battles honestly raged on for 6 days
>he starts popping potions in our fights, breaking the unspoken rules all pvpers play by
>this unlocks the floodgates because my sister would send me potion care packages every week
>we start bringing friends, 1v5s 3v2s all week
>these battles become absolutely brutal corpse camping, bm emotes, etc
>finaly one day farming my last bar to 60
>I'm half hp killing some bear and suprise suprise it's this fuck come to mess with me AGAIN
>he hit 60 1st but is still here fucking with me
>fighting him, his pet, and the bear
>out of desperation star spamming arcane explosion on all 3 of them
> flame blast kill the bear
>I LEVEL UP ON THE SPOT
>full heal
>he starts back pedaling away
>TO LATE MOTHERFUCKER
>blast his ass
>we never see each other again
>I hold the last laugh forever

I fucking hated that guy, I would toss and turn all night salty over how good he fucked me. looking back now I miss him dearly, i will never have an enemy like him again
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>duel randoms anywhere near mobs
>mind control them, make them run over and pull
>beat them in the duel to 1 HP
>a single tiny hit and they're dead

>duel random low levels on zep towers
>mind control them off over and over making them jump off
>they don't know how to forfeit

>duel randoms in blackrock mountain
you get the idea
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>>387254912
he's exaggerating like crazy
AV was not 2-3 days "on average" those were outliers

a game could be anwhere from 45 minutes to 2-3 hours on average. Sometimes, one team would turtle so hard and not let the other win and a game could go on for 6-8 hours.

2-3 DAYS? those almost never happened
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>>387255048
>played on a non pvp server
>mind control didn't flag you for PvP at launch
you get the idea
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>>387254912
Its been a very long time, hopefully I haven't forgotten anything. So back then, Drek'thar/Vandaar were real boss mobs with elite mob guards that were very tough. You had to make sure bunkers/towers burnt otherwise they were almost impossible to kill. The flags were also defended by elites (these could be kited) mostly what would happen is one faction would 'turtle'. Then you would be forced to either farm for wolf/ram riders which were elites that would fight for you, or summon tree lord/elemental guy. You could also upgrade the armour of flagguards by handing in armour scraps. Different attitude toward MMOs back then, even the average age of MMOs players was something like late twenties. But yes, people would often stay up all night and jump back in the same game the next morning.
This all changed when they started to nerf things, players gear got better. Mostly blizzards nerfs.
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>>387254984
But you have a cool story to tell from a game more than 10 years ago, that alone is special
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>>387255128
Wrong, AV battles definitely lasted for 5+ hours or so by standard.

Possibly days, sometimes.
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>>387255128
They happened all the time on my server. There was no way to break stalemates in old AV. Even the summoned bosses didn't do shit since all it took was one druid kiting them to the general.
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>>387255128
I am not exaggerating. What server did you play on?
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>>387255237
ohhh, so was alterac valley available to lower level players like today? i could imagine it being longer than hell with level 30 or 40 people..
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>look up old mage videos on youtube
>Otherguy/Saerdna, good stuff
>see "vanilla mage guide"
>there are actually several of those, all created in the past two years
>get curious, watch them
>HEYO WHAT'S UP IT'S YOUR BOY WITH A TALENT GUIDE FOR MAGES
>SO FIRST UP YOU WILL WANT TO GO FROST BECAUSE IT'S THE PVP SPEC
>what the fuck
>even proposes a fire spec without maxed ignite
>non-AoE grinding frost specs without shatter
What the fuck is wrong with these people? Some of them even used the exact same terrible builds, like they're some cartel of misinformation. None of these people clearly ever played a mage in vanilla, it's purely youtube "content" cancer with false shit ripped from a quick google search.
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>>387243985

Holy shit I remember that. So dumb.
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>>387255327
No. Alterac Valley was 51-60 but on my server (Al'akir EU) people tried to discourage low levels from joining because they were a detriment. Most of time lowbies (Anything under 58 imo) would join just for the insignia quest when they added it. I'm sure some of the others could tell you stories about that elite yeti in the cave.
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>>387254979
>Kirin Tor EU
WHO ARE YOU ?
I probably know you.
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>tfw I wanted to look up old videos on google video, but the service is shut down since 2012
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>>387254984
>looking back now I miss him dearly
damn, man
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>>387255128
No he is right, I never played an AV to conclusion and I would play one for 8 hours on average
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>>387241143
I'm glad it came out honestly it brought out so many autistic people and gave them a big flag to wave around to let the rest of us know who not to associate with. A public service almost. Red shirt guy is cooler than literally the entire fanbase.
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>>387255048
>Duel hunters
>Kill their pet then forfeit the duel

SOMEBODY LOCK ME UP
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>>387255506
Severnaya do not bully
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>>387254979
Original poster you replied to. I see. I might come back myself if they ever launch legacy servers but I doubt they will.
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>>387255327
It was very common for people to join AV with during the 50s just to get the quest rewards. They were around lvl58 quality weapons, which was a huge boost, like the spear
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>>387255493
>elite yeti
damn vanilla sounds like it had some crazy cool, ambitious stuff in the battlegrounds. what was the max gear like? anything overpowered that you can tell me of?
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>>387255273
Buddy my green text storys could fill a book
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>>387243151
>Arathor EU

Mah nigga. I should go back and read the old forum sometime, what a community.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDQyEe06Q-M
ALL THE PROBLEMS MAKE ME WANNA GO
LIKE A BAD GIRL STRAIGHT TO VIDEO
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>>387255691
Alterac Valley was a strange mixture of PVE and PVP, at least I believe so. The yeti was just a mob that would occasionally spawn (not related to the quest) it raped hard. Max gear? PVP gear, or PVE? Truthfully I raided on a 'casual' basis I was more of a fill in. I ranked to 11 then stopped for the PVP gear + cheap mount. The Zandalari trinket used to piss me off though, PoM pyro mages were my nightmare. If you want to see some crazy stuff look up "World of roguecraft" or "Zalgradis PVP" there's also "Grim PVP" who's more just about entertainment.
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>>387255580
Yeah, if only normies didn't start associating with us and coming to 4chan for some reason we could have both been happy
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>>387255809
Were you in Horde's Angels, or.. The Burning Flamingos?
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>>387255865
I LIKE MY COFFEE BLACK JUST LIKE MY METAL
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>>387256125
Legion of Hell actually, but I wished I was in "Bloodsnout is a big ghey".
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>>387255691
Oh. I forgot, the 'reckoning' ability for paladins was quite disgusting. They got an instant auto-attack every time someone crit them (it was in prot tree) Blizzard eventually capped how many instant hits you could save up, though there's a video of someone abusing a bug to one-hit Kazzak.
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>>387252039

yeah i did both chains in vanilla, and Alliance was 100000000000x worse.

>jailbreak
>DOING FUCKING JAILBREAK WITH PUBS
>11 year old "i wanna be the hero" shitters

you know nothing of suffering.
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>>387254065
Spirit based hunters were always my favorite
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That dude was the first wow video I saw and he was one of the first people that hit 60. It looks stupid now, but the idea of someone sneaking into a major enemy city causing chaos was exciting to my younger self at the time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUeAEntM-Qo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOIICJT4fFU
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>>387256413
I Never even got attuned, some one else always had it
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>playing through TBC
>the patch drops that added a bunch of new content to Dustwallow Marsh and Theramore
>level a thirty-something alt four times in a single evening, feel like god

Good fucking times
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>>387254984
That's the problem with a perfect rival of equal skill and mentality.
You feel empty when they're gone, because nobody will ever get you so well despite your rivalry.
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>>387256546
>that Hunter that solo'd Azuregos just spamming Heal Pet
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>>387256550
>the idea of someone sneaking into a major city causing chaos wasexciting to my younger self
That is still exciting to my old self. Shame you cannot do that in any modern games because that would hurt the feelings of the enemy players.
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>>387256591
you had to be attuned to do Onyxia period after they made the gate in front of her lair pointless.
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>>387255691
vanilla had the "It's balanced because everyone is OP" mindset.


>Mages could burst down 70% of your health in 1 shatter combo. Sheep people for 30 seconds straight. Kite any melee.
>Rogues could stunlock someone from 100% to dead.
>Hunters could never be caught by anyone if they just run away and kite at max range.
>Warriors could literally 2-shot cloth wearers
>Paladins were impossible to kill
>Warlocks could put full DOTS on you and then afk and watch your health tick down to 10%

etc etc
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>>387254984
I had the same problem with an orc hunter, no matter where I was, what I did, how fast I leveled he always there. We alwayed bumped in to each and then we used to bump in to each other in BGs. I miss server rivalrys.
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WHERE ARE MY LEGACY SERVERS BLIZZARD?!!! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!

Bring the good times back! I'm tired of your shitty piss easy modern wow.
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>>387254912
Alterac Valley was a war. An actual battle.

You would have people collecting ram skins to summon the ram riders for a small chance to breakthrough the enemy lines. Doing shit to summon that big "god" NPC. Shit like that.

That stuff made vanilla WoW great
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>>387256741
I think the main reason for that is, that all newer games try to be WoW, while the old WoW tried to be a dungeons and dragons rpg in the Warcraft universe. Reminder that survival was supposed to be an own skill with torches and stuff
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>memories of spending all day and night waiting for all of the discs to install on your parent's crappy prebuilt Dell while talking with your best bud on your landline about how hyped you are to play
>memories of having no idea how to play, no knowledge of min maxing or proffessions
>memories of simply dropping questing/pvp/grinding and just running across every zone and exploring everything not saturated in skull leveled mobs because you're enamoured with this seemingly humongous world
>memories of the tension of hiding off the path as a ?? leveled player from the opposing faction rides past on his mount covered in scary looking gear
>memories of wearing gear not because it had good stats (because you had no idea how they worked) but because they looked cool and edgy
>memories of finding areas like the Defias cabin at the top of the Mirror Lake waterfall that have no associated quests and you wonder why they're there
>all impossible to replicate, the feelings of wonder and amazement gone forever
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>>387245568

>>387246453
>>387252491
>>387253230

They commissioned the guys from Penny Arcade to do those, more here:
https://www.penny-arcade.com/archive/results/search&keywords=wow/P40
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>>387242853
rip
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>>387257234
>modern WoW is eas-
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So what was better, vanilla WoW or Guild Wars?
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>>387257264
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>>387242940
They've gone out of style and are kinda tacky. But ESO has some neat boxart. Should I try that game?
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>>387256904
>>Hunters could never be caught by anyone if they just run away and kite at max range.

This wasn't true in vanilla. A hunter's power came in the fact that they would one kill cloth wearers with aimshot. If they got a CC in them back then the were fucked. Literally the only counter was the PvP trinket added later.

T. Vanilla hunter
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>>387257264
I need all this back in my life
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>>387257380
Pre-searing was the best part of Guild Wars. I could play an entire MMO just in pre-searing.
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>>387254912
I used to play most of the night, sleep for a bit, head to class sometimes come back and log in...many, many times the same game would be going on.

There wouldn't be any objectives left, the place was a war torn wasteland after that long.
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>>387257380
While GW was a proper MMO, there just is no equal to Vanilla WoW.

Tbh, GW was the game poor kids who could not afford WoW subs played.
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>>387257249
>Duskwood Alpha was so dark you needed a torch to navigate it
I know its ridiculous but stuff like that has always been really cool for me. I miss old blizzard, old WoW was so good for RP.
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>>387255128
>45 minutes to 2-3 hours on average
You mean, after they ruined it?
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>>387257234
It wouldn't be the same. People who play vanilla servers must have missed out on the true vanilla experiance or somthing.
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>>387257353
Only shitters and nostalgia fags think raiding has gotten harder each xpac if you push current high end content.
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>>387257380
GW was better for budget players, I think for its time and what it managed to achieve considering they were competing with WoW at its height, its definately hard to call. I used to take my breaks here. I'll never forget Gwen.
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>>387257687
*hasn't

my b
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>Vanilla class balance was bad, if you wanted to raid you have to play one of just a handful of classes
It doesn't matter, nobody in this thread was a successful raider in vanilla, fucking lmao. Private servers after the fact definitely don't count.
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>>387257410
>tfw I was just traveling from IF to wetlands to level up tailoring/enchanting only to find out enchants don't work in bgs anymore
Holy shit fuck this game. That was the last straw I unsubscribed. The leveling up experience is completely piss easy and fast too its horrible.
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>>387255993
pvp gear. whats the name of the cool ass end game paladin set with the red helmet with a hood over it? i see it sometimes on old photos but dont know its origins lol
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>>387257380
Guild Wars was ass. Why even have an MMO if everything is a instenced experience? The "world" was just a fucking lobby.
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>>387257574
That was Runescape.
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>>387257813
i got to ZG and MC

only killed the first three bosses.
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>>387257927
J U D G E M E N T
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>>387257927
Oh, I'm not sure if you mean tier 2 or if you are talking about the pre-patch models for the tier items. Do you mean the judgement set?
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>>387258106
was it good? or just pretty. Or both.
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>you will never unleash controlled high level demons in goldshire again
>you will never summon doomguards in goldshire again
>you will never experience world PvP like before thanks to flying bullshit mounts
>epics will never ever have the meaning they once held and neither will rares because they are given out like candy to appease kiddies and make them feel important
>you are forever stuck in an age where inclusionism and peoples fee-fees getting hurt is more important than anything
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>>387257998
Runescape was there long before WoW... That was played in basic school.
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>>387241270
but agility is unironically better than strength for warriors in vanilla
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>>387258106
>be tauren warrior
>get this set
>"I'll never be able to wear this"
>cataclysm comes and taurens can be paladins
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>>387257813
Me, holy pally, Mostly t2. Cleared everything but Naxx. 2 button character. 3 on an exciting day.
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>>387257813
My guild got up to Twin Emps in AQ40. Only downed Raz in Naxx. Vanilla Naxx was some hardcore shit on another level.
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>>387250304
Don't mock healer paladins.

Every single one of them do it reluctantly as a means to an end.
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>>387257813
I got up to C'thun myself, and I used to tag along for the first wing of Naxx as healer on my paladin. What you say is true about not all specs being viable but no class was excluded, vanilla was a different time, with a different mindset. I understand modern players don't like that but its disingenous to pretend there are people who don't. Personally I preferred TBC. Vanilla did not have enough 5 mans for my liking and 40 man raiding while fun I think is really more of a hassle than its worth.
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>>387258282
>hold the fuck up
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>>387256898
>that moment when you hit the onyxia portal and realize you forgot that shitty attunment item(amulet?) in the bank
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>>387241143
>demon hunter literally teased since Vanilla promotional images
>took 12 years to actually get the class
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Class & combat:

Rogues had to craft their own poisons with special labs spread across the world.

Rogues could deactivate traps.

Rogues had to train lockpicking by opening lockboxes around the world. Special gloves even existed to help you.

Stealth used to have levels and could be more or less effective. Items such as Nightscape Boots helped you being less detectable. Also, as they were sneaking, rogues moved slower when stealthed.

Hunter started without any pet and had a quest to teach them how to tame one, enhancing the link between them. Now they automatically start with one. Same for Warlock and their first demon.

Hunter could use Eyes of the Beast to see through the eyes of its pet.

Hunter's pet had an happiness bar and a loyalty property to manage by feeding them with appropriate food. If done wrong, the pet would do lesser damage or even leave you.

Hunters had 3 pets max. Each ones feel special. Now they carry a whole zoo in their bags.

Hunters couldn't attack in melee range with ranged weapons.

Bows and guns require ammunitions you had to craft/buy and put in special ammo bags. This could lead to awkward situations
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>>387246979
fucking hell that hit hard
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Warriors and rogues were able to use ranged weapons.

Warlocks had to get and carry soulshards in special bags.

Warlocks had a Detect Invisibility spell.

Warlock's Ritual of Doom needed four other people to summon the Doomguard... and one of them was randomly sacrificed! With great power came great responsability.

Death Knight's Raise Ally spell bring back people as... ghouls!

Druids turned into tree form to heal.

Priests had 2 uniques Racial abilities.

Mages have a Detect Magic spell and even a Khadgar’s unlocking (in beta) to crack lockboxes.

Mages, Warlocks and blacksmiths could craft various oils and grindstones to buff weapons.

Paladins could be played only by Alliance while Shamans were only for Horde.

Weapons require skills, including hand fighting. If you equipped a kind of weapon that you didn't know yet, you needed to use it a lot before doing max DPS. You also needed to see a weapon trainer first.

Speaking of trainers, you had to see a trainer in town to learn your new class skill/spell. Now it automatically spawn in your action bar as you level.

Some spells only worked on specific mobs, strengthening the lore. Paladin's exorcism for example was to be used against undead/demons while now it works the same on any mobs.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4TyqYsC26g
anyone else get overwhelming nostalgia from this?
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>>387258396
You missed the worst Hunter thing they had back then which was having to train your pets abilities with the stupid Pet Training Points. Unironically glad they removed that shit, it was not designed well at all.
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>>387241143
How many of you were invested in Warcraft before this. I only bought this game to experience warcraft up close and as an actual game I wasn't super impressed (every single plotpoint WoW has ever had was awful).
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>>387257234
You think you do, but you don't.
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>>387258106
>tfw transmogrification ruined wow's asthetics and every single paladin is wearing either this or T6...
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>>387247752

>not going survival so you could solo MC mobs using feign death
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World & quests:

Basic campfire required simple wood and a flint.

Reagents (candle, feather, stone...) were needed to cast lots of utility spells. Some could be simply bought but others needed farming all around the world.

Auction Houses were local. At start, only Ironforge (for Alliance) and Oggrimar (for Horde) had one. Also goblin's AH were neutrals so they were used by smugglers to trade rare items between factions.

You need to travel to dungeons and battleground. Now you don't even need to know where they are.

Breathing bar was shorter and quests that required you to go under water didn't auto-give you water breathing buff like now.

There was no instance in the world: If people were in the same place they see and could help each others.

Quests objectives weren't displayed on your map. Quest items didn't sparkle (or had an outline) and quest givers didn't show up on the minimap. Also quest mobs didn't have their names highlighted for you.
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>>387258761
I picked up WoW because of the RTS games but I started on WC3. I did play WC2 but I never owned it, most of my time was spent in the custom games playing footman. Stuff like that. The campaigns were fun. WoW certainly went downhill the further the story went along, TBC was the start of it and then after that things got even more ridiculous. I guess it depends, I put up with it because the RP there was great. Back when Goldshire was a sleepy town with casual RP instead of weirdos living out erotic fantasies.
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>>387259010
>Oggrimar
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Which race/sex looks best for warlocks?
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>>387258481

Hunter had to carry arrows.
Different arrows do different dmg plus you could run out of ammo so you could not use your skills.
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>>387258840
Transmog is good for those that want to customize well, but 90% of people will just grab a tier set and call it a day. I enjoyed making cross-class sets like making my DK into a Paladin.
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>>387250459
what cloth gear did you find with agi stats?
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Professions:

Rare recipes required you to travel all over the world, either to find/buy them or to do special quests and even dungeons to unlock them. For example you needed a priest to mind-control a mini-boss to teach you Enchanted Elementium; now it's just a drop.

Some crafting recipes (Sulfuron Hammer, engineer Jeeves/Chopper, some food...) required lots of work and mats. Now it's just a couple, rarely 3, max.

Sound logical, but you actually needed a fishpole to fish, a knife to skin, a hammer for blacksmith etc.

You had to level gathering before getting to the next zone. Now tou can skin/gather in Draenor even if you're level 1.

You need the actual mats to be in your bag. Now you can have them in your bank and craft anything in the wild.

Alchemists and jewelcrafters needed alchemy labs to make some of the best flasks and reagents.

Some professions had sub-specialisations: Blacksmith could specialize in weapon-smith or armor-smith; Alchemist could become transmute, potion or flask masters; Engineers could focus on goblin or gnome recipes. (some of those specialisations still exist but aren't updated anymore)
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>>387258662
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iz-RmSG2s1k
This is 10 year old now too.
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>>387241803
Vent and Teamspeak were out then, plenty of people used it.
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>>387259379
>Sound logical, but you actually needed a fishpole to fish, a knife to skin, a hammer for blacksmith etc.

This is still a thing though.
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>>387254984
what was his name?
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>>387258396
>be hunter
>tame rare cat in barrens
>happy and everything
>afk in stormwind
>come back
>pet was extremely close to abandoning me
NO

NEVER AGAIN
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>>387259010
Let me guess: Russian?
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>>387259046
Fair enough. I've never been into rp, so to me it was just another mmo but with the occasional bad plotline set in the warcraft world.
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>>387257264
>pvp server destromath
>be a tailer
>get recipe for a blue robe
>never seen a blue before
>the materials are ridiculous
>people not even selling it in AH
>the fire/ water /earth/ air essance drop from specific elementals scattered across azeroth
>come back every day from school to continue my epic quest to make these fucking robes
>just a few hours every day
>explore shit on my way
>ruins of dalaran \ visiting jaina in tanaris \ standing on rooftops in Barrens \ ducking through high level zones
>my escapades could fill a book
>just a level 32 mage on his own personal quest
>meet lowbie horde players who showed me to how to wall walk
>high level players helping me out and showing me cool places they found
>cool cliffs and tunnels going no where to the alliance king in a cave under askaban prison on some randomo island off the coast of teramor
>once I explain my quest in zone chat everyone just wants to hang out and help
>some times help other lowbies with their own quests
>only get like 1 level in a week doing this shit
>finaly get all the essances and make my robe
>feel like huge baller
>4 days later do scarlet monetary library and blue robes drop for me
>they are Stat for Stat identical to my robes
>FUCK
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>>387259997
>cool cliffs and tunnels going no where to the alliance king in a cave under askaban prison on some randomo island off the coast of teramor


Explain please, i have no idea what you mean.
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>>387256904
You're forgetting fucking crazy shadowbolt crits.
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>>387259742
It's important to point out that getting a single set piece took 1-3 weeks worth of points with an average rating below 2k at the time and several days of grinding honor for a single non set item. Truly a challenge to keep the motivation to continue grinding after a month
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>>387259742
>challenger during the two freebie seasons
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>>387260132

Varian used to be held captive on the island full of naga off the coast of Dustwallow Marsh

There was a long quest chain for the opening of Ahn'Qiraj that took you out there as well
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>>387255128
>AV was not 2-3 days "on average" those were outliers

This shit used to happen all of the time on Balnazzar.

>mfw one of the longest games of AV I ever took part in finally ended when the top raiding guild dropped in and used their main tank to kite Drek'thar all of the way back to Vanndar

Current AV is a pale imitation of the original version, and its a grim reminder of just how far WoW has regressed.
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>>387257878
I once resubbed out of nostalgie with a friend, it was during WoD, we created new toons on a different realm, no heirlooms.
We both ragequit immediately when in Zul'Farrak the fucking warrior just pulled the entire stairs encounter all at once, and killed everything with 3 whirlwinds, recount showing 2000dps, on level 42.

Anything before max-level raiding isn't WoW anymore. It's going through the motions of playing WoW, but the game behind the screen is just not there.
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>>387259579
No idea it was 12? years ago, I can't even remember the pet he was usuing.
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>>387260290
Shit, i never knew that. Sounds realy cool. I only played Horde so that might explain why i didnt knew about it.
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Will the MMO market ever see another WoW or was it only a perfect storm scenario with nostalgia overtaking people's memories?
Are mobile games really the future?
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>>387260427
When they did the stat crunch / linearization and the balance of low-level content was glitched for a few days, you had casuals on the forums complaining saying:
>fuck u blizzard yesterday I could 2-man ZF (at level 41) no problems
>but after the patch we have to pull one group at a time, even with full 5 people
uhm... YEAH?

what the fuck have they done to this game?
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>>387259348
me too anon, I made my dh look like a druid
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>>387260750
There will never be another WoW because you can't justify to your shareholders why you'd make such an autistic game anymore. If if doesn't pander to normieshits and have at least some micropayments noones going to run it.
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>>387260509

They never actually did any quests involving him. neither side did, if I recall correctly.

He was just.. there.

It's one of the many loose ends they figured out later.
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>>387260132
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>>387241270
>Wearing spirit gear on my warlock just because of the looks
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>>387260407
current AV is
>don't kill boss yet
>flag towers first idiots
>omg it's a loose [sic.] again fuck ally/horde
10 minutes laters it's done. one side camping the boss while all towers were flagged, the other side getting graveyard camped. bravo blizzard
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>>387260947
Still pretty cool that he was somewhere in the World, didnt Onyxia or the Black Dragonflight abduct him?
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>Blizzard you ahve to add LFR and easy token items!!
>I have a wife (and a gf) and 3 children and work 100 hours a week
>but i pay the same 13 i want the same CONTENT
>blizz plz I want to feel like nerd just once
>please make game easier some of us play for FUN you know, fucking nerds
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>>387260750
It was a bit of both really, there are some nostalgia fanatics but I genuinally believe these types of MMOs have a market even if they're not as large as the more casual ones. Blizzard really had a good list of devs back in the day which could have been leads all on their own, they were very passionate about what they did. You only need to look at 'Old Karazhan' to see how much they enjoyed working around the clock. You won't get another world of warcraft I don't, not until someone does something either 'revolutionary' or finds a way to make VR better.
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>>387259742
>Not using stormherald

After getting that weapon, i went from 1800 to 2300.
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>>387261285
Bc Arena was the best time for Warriors!
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>>387261241
Fucking kek.
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>>387261272
True, VR seems like the next logical step for anyone wanting any hope at making something on the level of WoW again. There's legit interest for it, judging from how hard people's dicks got over SAO five years ago.
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>>387260132
Old world just had really neat looking places that had no linking quests to make you go there back in the day like gurabashi arena, the one I'm thinking about specificly was in arathI highlands, it was this cave that came out to a cliff edge that over looked the sea. I was talking with the high level player about the posibiliy of huge sea monsters randomly off the coast and he told me about some sunken city off the coast of tanaris and how you could see a sea monster when using the Train in stromwind. And he was right about the city, I found it on some other adventure months later

The king of azaroth was randomly in askaban prison, you couldn't talk to him or anything but people would go aND take screen shots with him. I remember when I went with thsee other dudes who were actually specificly going there let me come with them when I explained what u was doing. 5 horde showed up and killed us and the king as we were trying to take a screen shot lol. We never got it they were so mad
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>>387261285
>hour long Warrior + Druid mirror matches

What shitshow that was.
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>>387252590
literally did this as well on my first 60. Fucking love Winterspring.

>>387254984
Have a similar story, only it happened on the pvp grind to HWL on my hunter. Would constantly be battling this rogue and we'd always find way to fuck each other over. I miss that stupid night elf trying to gank me while I'm defending LM or farm. Constantly jump around, throw flares, lay new traps and spam TAB 4 to scatter shot his ass as soon as his stealth was visible.
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>>387261272
vanilla Karazhan* It was originally meant to be a 40 man raid. Never got added obviously, not until TBC and then it was scaled down to a small raid.
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>>387259348
I love doing that shit. My Unholy DK is dressed up in a typical Draenei paladin slutmog all golden and shit, and my Warlock is dressed up in the Undead Cleansing set looking like a member of Argent Dawn.

And this is my resto druid.
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>>387261128

It was an overarching plot for the Alliance that shit is fucked in human kingdoms because Varian is missing and Lady Prestor took over. Westfall, Darkshire, Redridge, etc.. And the grand finale of this plot was the reveal that Prestor was Onyxia.

There was a long ass quest chain to get keyed to kill her as well, as you needed a special necklace.

And then they retconned that all that Onyxia was actually killed by Varian
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>>387261515
>>387261387

The best part was that Stormherald proc and the mace spec proc weren't on diminishing returns, AND it procced off whirlwind.

That mace was so fun to use until I started getting matched up against other warriors with it, then it was just unfair
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>>387261654
That rings some Bells, pretty sad that they dont have stuff like this anymore.
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>>387261285
I did end up switching to Merciless Glad Bonecrusher, or whatever. But, the Stun was too unreliable, I liked the straight damage I could get out of Sword/Axe specs.
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>>387261285

>arms warrior + Resto druid
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIgZBpWDwQU

i loved all the old guild drama.
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Dragonmaw EU day 1
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>>387261285
>that amazing ms paint rage thread on arenajunkies
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>>387261835
My Buddy (Shaman) and me (Warrior) were unstopable, if we got rekt in the arena eventualy we just took the fight to the Outlands and ganked all of those who did not yet get their flying mounts. Good times.

Found an old Pic of my Cow.
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>>387261942
Shitting on pve healers with old sword spec was one of the most satisfying moments. I prefered the slower use ob abilities compared to the fast button mashing rotations with a ton of numbers there are now. That would every ability felt more impactfull
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>>387261860

Both Alliance and Horde had the quest line for Onyxia, but it was obviously different:

Alliance: THIS BLACK DRAGON INFILTRATED OUR GOVERNMENT AND WAS DESTROYING US FROM WITHIN, BRING ME HER HEAD

Horde: They don't realize they have a dragon standing in the throne room kek. Go kill it
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>>387258396
hunters also used mana back than.
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>>387257380
guild was the game you played when the servers would go down for maintenance or long patch days
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>>387262261
Shit, now i want to go back and just explore the world again, are there any good Classic servers?
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>>387261654
>tfw no dragon mistress to massage and hope for claoca action after a long, stressful day of manipulation on a global scale
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>>387262261
You forgot the badass final part of the quest, where you slow walked with Bolivar to the throne room.

First time I did that quest, I had no idea what was gonna happen, but a bunch of players started following me so I knew shit was about to go down.

>>387261942
Stormherald was outclassed by I think the final season of BC but the dual stuns without DR was just too infuriating to pass up
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>>387262453
just run your own local one with gm powers
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>>387241270
> Won Agi ring
> Rogue is Mad
> I need this because it gives Crit ( I Need Crit because it sounds logical)
> I am Retry Paladin

It was a good time as a noob.
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>>387262520
Might be cool to dick around but the Rpg aspect is severly lacking if i do this. Where is the fun in playing an Mmo without the MM or the O
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>>387241836

Everyone more or less tried the same formula with different IP. But I think it was ultimately convenience that slowly kills the MMO market. Wikis, datamining, integrated quest helper and multiple server instances are all features that make playing less time consuming, but it also made a lot less necessary to actually interact with ingame community.
A sandbox MMO that isn't as dull as EVE might work, but something like that is never going to get funded and the current PC crowd probably has too many multiplayer alternatives available.
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>>387253993

>tfw when I gave up on nostalrious when AQ came out because raiding became too time consuming, I feel bad for leaving my guild after getting full tier 2 and close to BiS gear but the farming required for raiding the old raids and AQ progress was just too much in the end.

It was fun to play vanilla again but it didn't really compare to the time I levelled through the original vanilla game, it took me way longer to level but it came with a huge sense of wonder I could never quite recapture (not to mention the community being vastly better back then, back when most players were just fumbling around not knowing what the fuck to do).
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>>387262487
That guy is a legend. Makes me miss the tryhard days of raiding, but I can't make myself invest that much time into a game anymore
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>>387252063

>de gives skill points

That's not true after a certain skill level and even then you still have the option to greed for it which rolls against DE. Other people should have the ability to receive enchanting materials for their own sake. It made enchanting a billion times less expensive.
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>>387261580
>worgen
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>played warrior in Vanilla
>finally get my Whirlwind Axe
>lost it sometime between then and now
>Legion revamps the transmog system
>mfw I see it under the 2-handed axes tab after all these years
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>doing zg with guild and one fucking pug
>raptor drops, we're alliance
>okay guys first we're going to roll on the enchant
>pug wins, guild tells him we're going to keep it in guild because its important and all the raiders need it
>roll a 99 on mount
>pug rulls a 100
>they give it to him

>few months later doing zg fucking again because I still dont have enchant
>officer alt wins it
>say i dont have it yet
>get ignored despite being one of the only two reliable healers
Fuck those guys.
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>>387262781
You are talking about Archeage.
It didn't become the second coming of MMOs because retarded koreans not buying the game when release because pcbang culture and because the western publisher was an incompetent piece of lieing shit.

The only hope in the horizon is Camelot Unchained and frieds, there are a lot of sandbox mmos coming out next year,
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>>387242673
Wow, being a twat in games got you banned even back then?? Go figure...
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>>387263108
I have swords from the World Dragons you can't get anymore that I can't even transmog because I own them on a Shaman. It's kinda sad.
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>>387262487
I will never not read this in it's entirety when it's posted.
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>>387262942
I think male Worgen look alright, and I generally like to have every alt be a different race if possible, for variety's sake.

That being said, I do have three gnomes. Gotta be overlap somewhere when all of my friends play Alliance.
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>>387263218
It didn't become the second coming of MMOs because they started adding pay 2 win features, i warned my friends it would happen but they didn't listen.
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>>387263218
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyLdfaUTJP8

Enjoy.
The game had amazing potential and I was in the midst of it, but fucking Trion...
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>>387262487
>Wait
>Wait
>Wait
>Wait
>RETARDS
>WAIT

It never fails to make me laugh.
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>>387247215
DKP systems are shit, but I've never encountered one where you could use YOUR dkp to give OTHERS items... interesting. That just adds another layer of fuckery to a broken system.
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>>387242673
I did all the shit and never got banned, my friends warlock even got bugged out somehow and became unkillable once. He went to iron forge and murdered everyone, all the quest NPCs all the players, everyone. He posted a video to youtube even and people posted about it on the forums and they didnt even bann him.

>>387263367
Worgen are ok, but they are not ok for a playable race in warcraft.
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>vanilla warrior
>chase paladin throught darkshire
>have him cornered
>he simply throws bubble shield and uses hearthstone


>now alliance
>post stormwind raid theres horde wandering around elwynn forest
>chase some high level female orc shaman over mountains and deep forest
>almost catch her until her friends show up and make a getaway into a high level zone
>start receiving oddly lewd messages and mail from the orcs ALt for about 4 months


rustled my jimmies at the time but makes me smile
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>>387263368
And that happened because it bombed in Korea, this videos explains it really well >>387263406
but there are a lot more online.
That game started being a sub based mmo with no labor system and no cash shop, the dream of Jake Song since Lineage II was to make a fair mmo, thanks to koreans having shit taste we will never get pre 1.0 Archeage again, e ven Jake Song abandoned Archeage development in 2014-2015.
This is one of the most depressive videogame stories, probably even more shitty than real Fallout 3 or all the canceled star wars games when disney bought the franchise.
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>>387263627
To each their own. Worgen are far from my favorite, but I do like their druid forms and I already had a Night Elf, so I went with that. Would make my druid a Tauren instead if I knew someone that played Horde.
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>>387263621
>YOUR dkp to give OTHERS items... interesting.
Indeed that sounds terrible, the way my guild did it was through silent auctions and it worked pretty good.
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>>387263627
>He posted a video to youtube even and people posted about it on the forums and they didnt even bann him.
link?
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>>387263218
Archage was the most fun I have had on a MMO since originally playing WoW. I even had 4 IRL friends playing with me. We simultaneously quit when they released that POS grindfest expansion where you had to grind the same mobs for weeks for 5 levels. We were even willing to deal with trion's P2W bullshit.
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>>387255580
Guess you were too poor, huh
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>>387243142
>farm crimson whelps
>manage to find one despite all odds
>sell it for a mount

Was pretty hyped at that moment.
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>>387262487
This is what I'm talking about when I say trash talk was better before memes took off.
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>>387250071
You need a macro to turn around?

Ok.
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>>387263759

i dunno seeing the battlefield 1 reveal with the zeppelin and mistakenly thinking it was a titan from BF2142 was pretty big downer for me and some friends
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>>387249842
You could always go the Doubleagent route. Have to be a panda though...
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>>387263925
I tried it in fresh start 2016 and oh boy it was fun, I still have some friends that I made in that 2-3 months that I play regularly with.
If it wasn't because of the grind and the labor shit I would still play it, playing the auction house and doing sea trade runs were the shit, not counting that abyssal attack is the BEST event ever made in a mmo.
I played 400 hours and every single one of them was fun, except probably the levels 40-50 grinding, I can't say that of almost any other mmo.
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>>387263759
If you didn't realize the game would become absolutely shit when you could pay for a "head start".
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>tfw never got to experience any of the old MMOs because I was too poor for a PC and internet
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>>387257264
>see an awesome looking level 60
>try to inspect his gear
>accidentally invite him
>tfw

Man I fucking miss when it all felt so innocent and new.

It had such a feel to it but it's impossible to replicate.
Even running through starter areas like dun morogh felt like an adventure
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>>387251160
The natural passage of time hurts you? Life is gonna be rough with that attitude...
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>>387263905
trying to find it, dont hold your breath though
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>>387247079
PUG Raids were a sight to see in Vanilla WoW.

>mfw first time in a AQ40 pug
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>>387264395
Mfw I found a secret spot up in the mountains near my house where you had to glide a very specific path to get to. I'd plant l sorts of cooking stuff. I'd be planting for like 2 hours. No one ever found my secret spot. I used the money to gear out my templar to the point I could 1v1 90% of people as a healer. Basically if I wasnt 2 shotted I'd win.
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>>387264462
>tfw when my irish cousin would unironically ring me up to ask what was happening during the raid week because his internet was so limited
>Literally did the same thing for TV
>Unironically describing whats happening
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>>387254864
had the same experience with my dreadsteed.
fucking loved that horse, rode it proudly even after they started handing it out because mine was different from theirs, even if they didn't know it.
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>>387253993
Hello!
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>>387252289
wtf hound or tormund would beat any of those faggots in a fight
but idk why jon snow isnt maxed, he would beat any of them, because plot armor
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Just your daily reminder that WoW was always a casual game.
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>>387247079
They tried. Near the end of vanilla people were pugging MC but otherwise it was 20 man content and UBRS. 40 man raids required way more co-ordination than pugs could provide.
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>>387263236
transmog appearances are account wide now, you should be able to use them.
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>>387247079
Not really.

You can't PUG much of anything in a game where everything is instanced.
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>>387264907
You have to get the item on a character than can wield them so as a Shaman it's never added to the appearance tab.
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>>387264907
In order to collect the appearance, your class has to be able to equip the item.
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>>387264684
>mfw offering 10g clipper rides to the east for the guys in the 16x16 quest
>mfw I always killed all of them when nearing the coast
>mfw I got free 70g and another 120g in coal.
>mfw "Helping an adventurer" quest gets autocompleted.
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>>387258216
Yeah I had a lvl 39 twink warrior with all leather max agi gear and he shredded people even without bloodthirst or mortal strike. Simpler times.
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>>387258396

>Rogues had to craft their own poisons with special labs spread across the world

I remember having to buy ingredients and craft them but I don't remember having to use a lab
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>>387265198
You're the guy that picked Eddie in Tekken back in the day. Bully
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>>387250930
>saw a youtube video on how to get into Caverns of Time before BC hit
>seeing all that shit for the first time
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>you will never again dress up your lvl 1 gnome rogue in santa clothes, run to OG and kill pvp flagged lvl 60s the second they lose their duel
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>>387250443
>Can't find a tank
>Be a restro shaman
>Use rockbiter and charge in
>Shadow priest and my heals keep us up the whole trip
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>>387265198
D E V I L I S H
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>>387242940
that a big 'eaded nigga
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>>387242940
No, modern art is all donut steel style stuff with stupid amounts of bloom, shiny shit and no substance.
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>>387265361

There was some impressive technology in there that didn't make it into the BC version.

There was that long stone path through the fucking void that still impresses me
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>>387265318
That capoeria huehue is too rad to not play anon.
>>387265392
I payed that clipper by doing freedich runs at 4am in a raw boat, this shit isn't going to turn a profit itself.
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>>387251553
>Be an enchanter
>Faggots in group get to profit off my profession and ruin auction house prices
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>>387257353
>If I can smash my face against something hundreds of times, this means it is hard.

Pretty sure that means it is soft and you are stupid. (I realize you're talking about difficulty not density. You're still stupid.)
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>>387265624
>price of enchants goes down
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>>387241735
Elysium
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>>387250930
>wall climbing up the front of Orimmar and watching horde get salty at not being able to kill you
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>>387265578
My buddy had just gotten a galleon before we quit. He's still salty. Man, fuck Trion. I was fine paying the subscription and even bought a labor pot every now and then, but it was never enough for them. They just had to keep squeezing the player for more.
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>>387241270

> when warriors intelligence stat factored in how quick you learned new weapons
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>>387243985
>try to pvp as alliance warlock
>90% of horde is undead
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>>387257264
>tfw rolled a Tauren the first time I played
>once I got out of Mulgore, I'm confused as to why everything is such a high level
>get invited to a group with two other taurens my level, we try to fight these mobs, mostly failing spectacularly
>after an hour a level 25 guy approaches us and asks us what the fuck we're doing, tells us to go to the crossroads and leads us over there

Good shit.
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>>387250947
>>387251084
Elysium is a Chinese RMT money laundering scheme. Censorship is insane.
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>>387250930

>discovering there was a second ironforge below the main one
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never forget nostalrius
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>>387241143
WoD was the best WoW expansion
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>>387266098
I think Mulgore was one of the first places they actually worked on. I don't know about you but I always felt Mulgore was unironically one of the harder places to level. I loved the aesthetics but compared to Kalimdor or Dun Morogh it was so hard. I got lost too.
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>>387265903
I got my fishing boat just before I quitted as well, fishing with your guild and trying to protect from pirates was so exciting, healing in that game is unmatchable, it really feels like you are a healer in an adventure with your friends.
Trion destroyed this one hit wonder, fucking greed man.
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>>387266027
>back when forsaken were labeled as "undead"
>raids of 20 paladins smashing the undercity and everyone in it
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>>387266363

>not fufilling admiral proudmores legacy as a raid of pissed of human warriors and priests fudgepacking ogrimmars shit in
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>>387266301
NE had it pretty rough too, you pretty much had to cross the ocean and walk through the wet lands to get a good starting zone
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Modern WoW is quite horrid.

Joined a random guild.. people there were talking about having high-paying jobs, girlfriends, sex and going to festivals. Fucking disgusting.. the community has truely fallen down.
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>>387262875
it was a shit way to nerf the best profession, and if you defend it you obviously was butthurt towards enchanters

>That's not true after a certain skill level
yeah, but it was the best way to level enchanting until that certain skill level, specially since you wouldn't spend any mats for it
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>>387258375
I never understood why people wouldn't just always leave the item in their bags, accept they have ONE less on-person inventory slot, and never have this issue. Yes, inderstand for "raid night" you need to carry a lot of gear/consumes/reagents/bullshit with you. I play/ed a warrior so don't talk to me about inventory issues, resist sets can die in a fire.
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>>387266301
At the same time though, it felt so rewarding to do all those quests. Finding that one level 11 Kodo and getting a reward from Cairne was amazing.
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Good thread boys, i want you to know that no matter where we go and what ever happens to 4chan i will forever be your brother
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>>387266820
Why does that bother you so much? When I was in university I would finish classes, maybe play some WoW then go out and party. You might have played with me and never known.
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>>387267143
Because NORMIESS RRREEEEEEEEEE, FUCKING NON-VIRGIN DEGENERATES REEEEE!
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good thread boys. Good thread.
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