Name a better emulator.

vice is a lot better at emulating C64

Did you mean to say "name a worse emulator"? Because other than PCSX2, I can't think of one.

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>>387222262
the almighty emulator:

VBA

>>387222262
bsnes/higan

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Call me when half the games don't run at sub 30 or break at higher resolution.

>>387222518
>higan
this, its pefect

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>>387222518
>>387222550
It's creator disagrees. But then you're probably him.

>>387222550
BSNES is much better than Higan.

>>387222262
PPSSPP

PCSX2. Streamlined and intuitive save state system.

>>387222797
Dogshit everything else.

>>387222897
Fuck else do you care about? It plays the games. That's the only other thing it needs to do.

>>387222940
Except half the games don't work.

MAME

>>387222414
Fuck no this abortion is a pile of trash

No emulator works more flawlessly than Visualboyadvance. Play every games in the system, receive next to no complain and tons of emulator pussy.

>>387222262
ppsspp is on the same level

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>>387222262
PCSX2 plays more games better.

>>387223108
>same level
Not even close. Dolphin has an undo load state function which can really save your ass.

>>387223259
PPSSPP can rewind if I'm not mistaken. Accidentally loading a state is the territory of full retard though, nice argument you retard.

>>387223258
PCSX2 has a lot of sound problems.

Can I play Metroid Prime 3 on PC yet? It's the only prime game I haven't played.

>>387222987
Get a better computer mate. Never had a problem here.

>>387223438
No it doesn't.

>>387223258
PCSX2 devs consider bootable as perfect.

>>387222262
ZSNES baybay

>>387223564
Show me where they said that.

>>387222987
Prove that half of them don't work.

>>387223468
Art of fighting anthology crashes instantly.

>>387222262
Mednafen and PPSSPP.

>>387223085
>best PS1/PCE/Saturn emulation
>pile of trash

You don't know what you are talking about kiddo

>>387223601
>pete is salty that his emulator is shit again
Pete, you're a fucking moron.

>>387222797
>>387223468
>>387223530
>>387223601
Oh look, here's the dev. Shouldn't you be working on hacks to make your hacks work?

Ironically, if you hacks actually put in some fucking work, maybe PCSX2 wouldn't be a dumpster fire.

>>387223530
Oh it does. Off the top of my head Yakuza and Drakengard.

>>387222398
zsnes?

>>387223456
As of the latest build, yeah

https://dolphin-emu.org/blog/2017/07/30/ubershaders/

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>>387222262
For me it goes:

Mednafen > PCSX2 > PPSSPP > Dolphin > Desmume > RPCS3 > Cemu > Xenia

As far as setting up and playing games properly goes. Haven't messed around with any other emulators in the past decade really.

>>387223823
but it just werks

>>387222262
PCSX2 and PPSSPP and mednafen and pretty much everything else.

>>387223679
>>387223701
Nice arguments......

>>387223796
I've played every single game in those series on the emulator with no sound issues.

>>387223823
ZSNES has much higher compatibility than PCSX2.

>>387223258
This is because the PS2 has more games. That's cheating.

>>387223921
How's PS1 support coming along?

>use emulator
>constantly use save states
I cant help myself

How feasible is it for me to play BOTW with a 1050ti and an i5?

>>387223932
No,the SNES library is also way smaller than the PS2 library,the problem with PCSX2 is the accuracy but then ZSNES is an inaccurate piece of shit too.

>>387223936
No it's because it's a better emulator. Percentages, how do they work?

>>387223987
What?

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>>387224002
probably runs as well as on the wiiu

BSNES
Mednafen

>>387223564
No. "Playable" means that the game can be finished using the emulator. Even if it has a lot of problems, like broken sound, artifacts and so on.
"Ingame" means you can play the game but it's impossible to finish it due to errors.

Not defending the emulator as it's far from being perfect, but that's how it works.

>>387224001
I only use save states and turbo in JRPGs when i need too grind.

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>>387223258
It's not the GameCube games that Dolphin has trouble with. Don't forget that it's also a Wii emulator.

>>387224076
>it's far from being perfect
It really isn't though.

>>387224113
No one mentioned GC you sperg and who the hell is emulating GC games? There are none.

>>387223258
PCSX2 vs. Dolphin compatibility really aren't at all comparable.

PCSX2 compatibility is done via feels and community choice (ie. completely 100% subjective)
Dolphin compatibility is done via frame by frame comparison of the emulator vs stock frames from real hardware, they can track regressions almost immediately. (ie. completely 100% objective)

SNES9X

>>387224185
PCSX2 has a very near flawless software mode so I'd say it's comparable.

>>387224113
GC games still run like shit in Dolphin though. It runs Wii games better.

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>>387224164
>being such a fanboy for a fucking emulator

>>387224164
Gotcha Force. That cool card game with that alice in wonderland looking bitch. Skies of Arcadia. Custom Robo, and uh... I think that's it, yeah. Oh, Product Number 9. 5 games isn't that bad.

>>387224164
The GameCube has more proper games than the Wii which only has waglan shovelwarel.

>>387224040
What do you mean "what"? The PS2 can play PS1 games. This was something that PCSX2 was going to add. Since I haven't heard it mentioned by them in the last 7 months, I'll assume that idea is dead.

While we're on the subject, why does Dolphin have 140 pull requests, while PCSX2 has 24? Despite PCSX2 having something like 300 open issues?

>>387224251
Have you tried the latest build?

>>387224253
>projecting
I'm just making fun of your desperation you fucking autist.

>>387224283
>The PS2 can play PS1 games
Just look at you people shitpost.

>>387224263
>>387224267
>35 year old manchildren playing literal who nintendo games
lmao

>>387224248
you're missing the point entirely, also the 'flawless' software is again, subjectively 'flawless'.

Until the developers start comparing frames to track that it looks 100% like real hardware, it's not at all comparable to Dolphin, which uses such techniques.

>>387222797
>using savestates

>>387223854
>PCSX2 above PPSSPP and dolphin

bad meme. Even RPCS3 is sharing up to be a more well written, high quality emulator.

>>387224320
You really are a fucking idiot, aren't you. The PS2 deserves better than you incompetent malcontents.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PlayStation_games_incompatible_with_PlayStation_2

>the sonybro defending pcs2x

Its awful, just stop

It has maybe 10% perfect playback, and most of those games are shovel ware garbage

>>387224413
>wanting to have to overcome the same cumbersome obstacle multiple times

>>387224305
No.

>>387223796
Yakuza has always been fine for me.

>>387224498
It's one of the devs.

>>387224437
I mean the emulator you fucking mong.

>>387224498
Prove that, I'll wait.

>>387224387
>>387224185
But that's for Dolphin's perfect category, not their playable category.

>>387224434
It works better and is way easier to setup. PPSSPP have random ass settings and tons of them and Dolphin has things you have to switch for each game which is really annoying. RPCS3 has even more random settings and the emulator doesn't even work for 99% of the games, or have basic emulation features.

>>387224605
You dense nigger. He was saying that the PS2 can play PS1 games, so why can't the emulator

>>387224605
No, you have to prove it works when the general meme across the entire Internet is that it is dogshit to the point Wikipedia has an incompatible list

Fuck you asswipe

>>387224697
>what is hardware useless to PS2 emulation

>>387224605
Are you having a stroke?

>>387224605
You'll be waiting forever. It's more like 0%.

>>387224528
>cheating out of laziness

>>387224660
>PCSX2
>easier to setup than PPSSPP
>works better than PPSSPP
No.

>Starting dolphin + four swords adventures
>then starting four VBA instances
>plugging in 4 360 controllers.
That was a good evening.

>>387223468
most racing games have loads of issues

>>387224754
>when the general meme across the entire Internet i
But it isn't, you aren't a general meme you're just a spastic 4chan shitposter.
>to the point Wikipedia has an incompatible list
You need help.

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Official /v/ emulator tier list

God tier

Mednafen (PC Engine,Saturn,PS1,PC-FX)
BSNES (SNES)
Genesis Plus GX (Mega Drive,Gamegear,Sega Master System)
Mesen (NES)
BGB (gameboy)
Snes 9x(SNES)

High Tier

PPSSPP (PSP)
Dolphin (Gamecube,Wii)
VBA-M (GBA)
XM6 TypeG (X68000)
Neko Project II (PC-88,PC-98)
Desmume (NDS)
Nestopia (NES)
Final Burn Alpha (Neo Geo)
Demul (Dreamcast)

Mid Tier

PCSX2 (PS2)
PCSX Reloaded (PS1)
Phoenix (3DO)
Magic Engine (PCE)
Mame (Arcade)
NullDC (Dreamcast)
Reicast (Dreamcast)

Low Tier

Project 64 (N64)
ePSXe (PS1)
JPCSP (PSP)
No$gba (GBA)

Still need years of development to become usable Tier

RPCS3 (PS3)
CEMU (Wii U)
Citra (3DS)
Xenia (Xbox 360)

Put it into the trash Tier

Zsnes (SNES)

>>387224113
how will we live without playing great games such as disney channel all star party and deal or no deal: special edition?

>>387224814
The settings in PPSSPP are obtuse, there are so many settings with no explanations. It's also crashed way more for me than PCSX2 and I've been using PCSX2 for basically a decade and barely touch PPSSPP.

>>387224824
>four swords adventures
>not crystal chronicles

>>387224832
What is this

>>387224437>>387224498

>>387224871
>mame
>mid tier

shit list

>>387224918
>What is this
Completely unrelated to emulation and a shitpost. I see you're jumping in on arguments you have no knowledge in, sad shitposter.

>>387224871
Add iDeaS to shit tier and raise ePSXe and VBA up one

>>387224871
You put a ton of emulators that kind of suck over emulators that don't suck so this isn't official, it's just nonsense.

>>387224967
>if I ignore it, it dose not exist!

And I am the shitposter?

Lol

>>387224913
You don't even need to change settings to play 95% of PSP games without any problems.

>>387225025
t.ZSNES babby

>>387225058
That might be right but that also applies to PCSX2. You didn't address my statement about obtuse settings.

>>387222262
Retroarch
I know it's not technically an emulator but features like save on exit and auto load savestate, keeping libraries of all your different systems games, undo savestate loads or saves so you never accidentally screw yourself over, hell it even adds achievements to the games. Not to mention loading a new system will just automatically use the most accurate settings.

>>387224967
How about instead of getting mad at us that your Frankenstein's monster of an emulator doesn't work, you actually, oh I don't know, work on it?

You can treat people like shit and make no progress because you're the only game in town, but at some point, something better will come along and watch how quickly you become irrelevant.

Look at Desmume and MelonDS as proof of that. Or ePSXe and Beetle PSX.

>>387225249
>you're mad
lol at least say something that's true if you're going to try attacking me. Here, watch me.

You're a paranoid loser.

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>>387225249
>he actually thinks there will ever be another PS2 emulator when this one is basically perfect
>he actually thinks PCSX2 devs shitpost on /v/
>he actually thinks he's better than emulation devs who do it for free

>>387225365
PCSX2 will become obsolete just like ePSXe became obsolete when Mednafen came around,its only a matter of time.

PCSX2 loses to Dolphin on quality of actual hardware mode that doesn't leave your game no FPS blurry mess. There are still games that are missing something as basic as shadows in hardware mode and games that are in reality unplayable due to terrible FPS even on overclocked i5.

Also Dolphin has much better controls setup.

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>>387225562
I believe you.

>>387225581
>Also Dolphin has much better controls setup.
Pretty sure you still can't bind turbo mode to your controller so no it's still worse.

Also I test performance whenever I upgrade my PC and PCSX2 -every time- plays games faster than Dolphin. You probably aren't using MTVU or you're using software mode, because Dolphin never gets as fast as PCSX2 does.

And shadows have been fixed for the most part, that's some really outdated info you put there.

>>387225562
>>its only a matter of time!!!!!!!!!!!!
kek okay

>>387225854
Every old emulator has been surpassed,nothing weird about that,PCSX2 isn't even a really good emulator to begin with.

>>387222472
Outdone by mGBA.

>>387225917
I just know you'll make one better, within the next 20 years!

>>387225737
>Pretty sure you still can't bind turbo mode to your controller so no it's still worse.
You can't even bind keyboard button combos on Lilipad so fuck off.
>Also I test performance whenever I upgrade my PC and PCSX2 -every time- plays games faster than Dolphin.
Are you legitimately dumb. Wii locks games mostly to 30FPS and is more powerful hardware. Of course Dolphin games won't be seen running on super high FPS compared to PS2 and its 60FPS standard.

PCSX2 even in their newest stable still won't let me run Steambot Chronicles at decent FPS after getting off the beach.

>And shadows have been fixed for the most part, that's some really outdated info you put there.
.hack//gu says otherwise. Had to fucking deal with shit based on shadow appearing while hardware mode had no shadows.

>>387224914
That too, but we were getting high. We needed something else.

>>387225737
>you still can't bind turbo mode to your controller
Except you can. I always did that since the GameCube controller has one shoulder key less.

>>387225958
>You can't even bind keyboard button combos on Lilipad so fuck off.
What does this mean? And why are you using your keyboard to play games you're emulating?

>Are you legitimately dumb. Wii locks games mostly to 30FPS and is more powerful hardware. Of course Dolphin games won't be seen running on super high FPS compared to PS2 and its 60FPS standard.
...Why did you bring it up then? And the initial hardware is completely irrelevant what matters is the efficiency of the code. There are emulators for ancient consoles that run slower than both of the emulators we're talking about.

>.hack//gu says otherwise. Had to fucking deal with shit based on shadow appearing while hardware mode had no shadows.
I said for the most part and for all I know you just didn't enable something.

>>387226154
Just checked. You still cannot.

>>387226249
Oh wait you can. I've been dumb for who knows how long.

>>387226421
Wait no you can't! I'm just wasting my time now.

>>387226249
>What does this mean?
You can bind controls to activate only on shift + button press for example.
>And why are you using your keyboard to play games you're emulating?
I like my keyboard.
>...Why did you bring it up then?
I brought up PCSX2 leaving games unplayable mess at below the original frame rate. You started saying something about faster as if it was framelimiter off comparison.
>And the initial hardware is completely irrelevant what matters is the efficiency of the code.
Holy shit wrong. Initial hardware matters a lot, you always need more power than what was the original to emulate. Quality of code can ease it up but you will still have to go one way or another go through the instruction the original CPU goes through and it's much easier for your hardware if it's something nowhere nearly as powerful as you CPU.
>There are emulators for ancient consoles that run slower than both of the emulators we're talking about.
That doesn't matter in the slightest, they run like that either because of autistic accuracy focus or just emulation being still undeveloped. It's always easier to emulate weaker hardware at greater speeds.
>I said for the most part and for all I know you just didn't enable something.
Yes, software mode. I fucked around with graphical plugin and was at pretty tame emulation hack settings.

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>>387226249
>Just checked. You still cannot.
Yes, you can.
I literally just downloaded Dolphin 5.0 from the website (released more than a year ago) and could bind it to my controller.

>>387226614
>I like my keyboard.
I'm baffled at the autist I'm arguing with right now. But fair enough, you may be able to use your keyboard better using Dolphin. I wouldn't know.
>as if it was framelimiter off comparison.
It is, speed counts especially at high resolutions where Dolphin starts crawling.

I'm not going to bother replying to the other emulator stuff you posted because you stopped making sense the moment you started spewing fallacies.

> and was at pretty tame emulation hack settings.
English please.

>>387226703
Oh yeah I forgot about that hidden menu.

When will we get a way to use mouse aim in gamecube fps games with Dolphin?
I want to play Timesplitters without shitty analog aiming. Goldeneye and Perfect Dark got a mouse hack, so why is there no demand for Timesplitters to have one too?

>>387226838
>It is, speed counts especially at high resolutions where Dolphin starts crawling.
m8 high resolutions are purely GPU thing and emulators in particular don't bump up GPU requirements. You're playing on a toaster if you can't run 4k at least without ubershaders which are needed on like a few titles for no stuttering on Dolphin, and even then I can run mixed which is all I need in 1440p for Last Story which was my only problem. Not to say of course Wii games are prettier than PS2 games
>I'm not going to bother replying to the other emulator stuff you posted because you stopped making sense the moment you started spewing fallacies.
Don't fucking try to wiggle out of it you faggot. You started with your logical fallacy of "X doesn't matter because there are things with easier X but slower than things with harder X". Multiple factors are a thing you know.
>English please.
None of the not recommended settings in CPU hacks enabled, easy? Are you just gonna deflect all critique with "you must've done something wrong" while getting Dolphin controls facts wrong yourself?

>>387227186
>m8 high resolutions are purely GPU thing
Okay? Your point? Even at native resolution your uncapped frame rate is exponentially higher with PCSX2, there are exceptions I'm sure but overall PCSX2 is drastically faster.

>Not to say of course Wii games are prettier than PS2 games
Ha? There are a couple that are nicer looking than most PS2 games but not many.

>Don't fucking try to wiggle out of it you faggot.
I guess I already did, sorry deflector.

>None of the not recommended settings in CPU hacks enabled, easy? Are you just gonna deflect all critique with "you must've done something wrong" while getting Dolphin controls facts wrong yourself?
I have even less idea what you were trying to say now.

Ppsspp

>>387227783
it doesn't matter how may frames you are getting when over half of the games have flickering issues beyond the opening segments of the game dipshit

>>387227783
>Okay? Your point? Even at native resolution your uncapped frame rate is exponentially higher with PCSX2, there are exceptions I'm sure but overall PCSX2 is drastically faster.
What does it matter? Do you want to skip through shit faster? I already told you that Wii is just stronger hardware and you're misusing the word exponentially here. Might as well do framerate comparison to Gameboy Advance emulation.
>Ha? There are a couple that are nicer looking than most PS2 games but not many.
Wii has more demanding titles. Last Story, NMH2, pretty much all 3d stuff looks prettier than PS2 stuff. Same with RF titles.

And if they aren't prettier, they are still running on more powerful hardware, which means the emulator has more to emulate either way.
>I guess I already did, sorry deflector.
Great you ceded an argument what's the next step of your masterplan.
>I have even less idea what you were trying to say now.
Read a book then, nigger. Or look in your speedhacks tab.

>>387222414
Yep this is the only thing close, hate seeing videos where people are using epsxe or some shit with bad smoothing and stuff.

>>387228102
>over half of the games have flickering issues
How to out yourself as someone who has never even used the emulator. Flickering issues? Really?

>>387228143
Yes, and we're talking about speed so top speed matters obviously. We already went over that base hardware is irrelevant.

Those games are below PS2 games, especially RF(Rune Factory?) which are... are you being serious right now? Last Story looks worse than DQ* and NMH2 looks pretty awful.

>Read a book then, nigger. Or look in your speedhacks tab.
You still aren't getting at anything. This all started with some crazy typo. What the fuck are you trying to say?

>>387224498
>emulator user
>sonybro

>>387228305
>Yes, and we're talking about speed so top speed matters obviously.
Doesn't matter for rational people apparently.
>We already went over that base hardware is irrelevant.
Went how exactly, I already told you your argument is wrong and fallacious, not even calling your on fallacy at first because it feels cheap.
>Those games are below PS2 games
What games?
>especially RF(Rune Factory?) which are... are you being serious right now?
Rune Factory games are pretty nice looking
>DQ
DQ7 looks no better than RF games, either of them.
>This all started with some crazy typo
There wasn't any typo. Use reading comprehension.

>>387228697
I could point out the incredible typo, where your argument indeed reach the "fallacy" point, and I could make comparison images. But that would be a waste of time.

(You) earned it.

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literally runs on black magic

>>387222262
Snes9x

>>387228794
Yes you could actually put up another inane argument soon to be abandoned after reaching its termination at the hands of basic logic or you could shut up and pretend you came out of the thing victorious.

>>387222542
Call me when you stop trying to emulate on a toaster.

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>>387223258
For PCSX2, pic related is playable.

>>387230824
Mipmapping issues are fixed though.
Ratchet & Clank works very solidly at a consistent framerate of 60 FPS most of the time and with no apparent glitches.

>>387230824
PCSX2 support mipmapping now, faggot.

>>387230975
>>387231007
I'm aware, I'm just saying that you ought to take PCSX2's idea of playable with a grain of salt. Under Dolphin, playable really does men playable.

>>387228860
Last time I updated it, it broke my Dissidia 012 save data and freezes every time I load or save a state and occasionally just freezes for no reason.

>>387222797
Awful emulator. Hacks that break the game, shit AMD optimization, shitty plugins, unintuitive menus, glitches, still no Vulcan support. It's been the same emulator for 6 years now.

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PS3 PS2 emulation is so fucking bad it makes PCSX2 look perfect

>>387231210
why don't you just play the fucking hd collection

>>387231251
because fuck you maybe the hd collection is shit

>>387222542
MY fucking 800 gaymur laptop with an i5 and GTX 1050 runs most games fine at 1080p 60 fps and runs faster melee pretty well. You must be ultra poorfag if you can't afford a rig to run dolphin games at 60fps.

>>387231182
this especially the shitty plugins. Also this emulators Ui is the most confusing shit on fucking earth. going into sub menus and changing shit with no feedback explaining what certain changes do and whats the most optimal settings. but its all we have so we have to deal with it until the simplify/improve on all the shit.

>>387231286
better than emulating on a PS3 of all things

>>387231363
lets see the hd release of sonic riders first