Tekken 7 sold more units in two months than Street Fighter 5

>tekken 7 released in 2015
>two months

You rest on your laurels and produced a shitty product, Capcom deserves what it gets for releasing what amounted to a half finished game

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Crapcom has a track record of not listening to their fans and disrespecting all of their franchises.

Namco knows what the fuck they're doing, it doesn't come as a surprise.

It's funny. T7 suffers from the same flaws as 5 but gets away with it just because

>>387213649
comparing console release to console release you drooling retard

>>387213839
Game design you don't enjoy =/= flaws

>>387213839
Besides the terrible story mode and complete lack of tutorial, the game is a 10/10.

>>387213839
Do you mean to say that Tekken 7 is all about dashing in and forcing 50/50 situations?

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>>387213649
They're not counting arcade units.

You are literally retarded.

>>387213649
first post dumbest post

>>387213839
t. 3rd dan

>>387213917
And the rage.

>>387214037
Rage is a good mechanic.

>>387213917
The netcode is still GARBAGE

>>387214069
No

>>387214078
maybe if you play on PS4/wifi

>>387213649
So this is the average Street Fighter player.

>>387213917
It doesn't have rematch in 2017 with 50 seconds load times. Playing in a lobby is fucking painful. Fuck you Harada.

>>387214102
NO U

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>>387213839
>has an actual story mode on release
>roster is SIGNIFICANTLY bigger
>constant feedback loop between customer and company
Tekken 7 isn't perfect, especially with the shitty DLC practices and still rather lackluster content, but SFV didn't even have real fucking lobbies at launch.

>>387214162
>It doesn't have rematch in 2017 with 50 seconds load times
That's because you are a console only mongoloid in 2017.

>Street Fighter player picks up T7 for shits and giggles
>wipes the floor with seasoned veterans of the series
>eventually gets bored and goes back to SF
Great "game" you have there, Tekkucks.

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Fighting games are often held to the highest degree when it comes to skill ceiling but to me it still seems to be just about luck as much as any other competitive game, just dashing in and leave your opponent to take an educated guess at what you will do if they guess wrong you will launch them and take half their HP repeat.

>>387214176

I mean the people crying for single player stuff aren't demanding a lot. Just an arcade ladder with some endings. Not hard.

>>387214201
I play on pc. The load times are a bit faster but it's still completely buttfucked retarded that there is no rematch and a complete blunder. And they didn't even address this, what the fuck.

>>387214201
Not him, but I play on PC and waiting times between matches are significantly longer than in SFV, which were already bordering at unbearable sometimes. Not to mention only half of the rematch requests seem to go through.

The actual netcode is usually solid, though.

>>387214290
No, the load times are INSANELY faster than on console if you play on anything but the toastier of toasters. Loading times are a non-issue on PC.

>>387214110
So what?

PS4 owners are the majority of the sales, WE should be priority since we decide the entire fate of the series. PCbros only brought 300k out of the 1.6 million copies sold. If they don't patch this shitty netcode i'm just gonna go back to GG and never support tekken again

>>387214228
Yet here we are, a year into SFV's release, and still no arcade mode.

It literally took more effort to shit out a story mode than it would've taken to include an arcade mode, let that sink in.

>>387214395
People still crying about an arcade mode don't actually play fighting games.

>>387214392
You get what you pay for, friend.

>>387214395
So what you're saying is you're a fucking retard with retarded demands

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>SFV would have sold more if it released on xbo-

>>387214223
>ust dashing in and leave your opponent to take an educated guess at what you will do
That's boiling it down to a babbling retard level of thought. That would imply the entire game is just blocking 50/50s. It's about reads and execution, but it takes work to even set your self up properly to get attempts at those. If it was all luck, then fighting games wouldn't have extremely consistent results at which players were good and winning.

>>387214367
Loading times are INSANELY slow compared to any game made by a competent developer. You know, games where you can rematch instantly without reloading every fucking thing. Stop defending them for shitting down your throat retard, there is no excuse for a Tekken game to not have a basic function like rematch.

BREAKING NEWS, GAME SERIES THAT HAS SOLD MORE THAN OTHER GAME SERIES FOR 20 FUCKING YEARS STILL SELLS BETTER THAN OTHER GAME SERIES

OH ALSO THEY BOTH SOLD LIKE FUCKING SHIT ANYWAYS SO GG

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>>387214448
>ONLY I PLAY VIDEO GAMES!


Just because someone's not playing online doesn't mean they're not playing. It means they're not playing with YOU. Because you're a fucking cunt.

>>387214228
>SFV has no arcade mode
>instead, survival and multiple story modes
>people bitch endlessly

>T7 has an arcade mode
>no intro, no outro, no context - nothing
>5 fights long
If you unironically praise this shit, you deserve a bullet between the fucking teeth.

>>387214448
And the people who "do" play SFV don't make up a big enough community to sustain the game financially. Let's face it though, if people weren't being paid to play SFV, it'd be deader than SFxT.
>>387214469
How is it retarded to ask for something that literally every other fighting game in existence includes by default? Even the worst fighting games in existence have an arcade mode, so why did Capcom feel the need to remove such a fighting game staple?

>>387214392
How are they going to patch wi-fi connections exactly? The reason why 'netcode' is bad is because so many of you fuckers use wi-fi. It's not something the devs can resolve.

>>387214560
Nah, they're not playing because they're weak and afraid of competing. Deep down, they know they'd get their shitter shattered, so they retreat to arcade mode to maintain the fantasy that they could beat everyone if they only tried, but they chose not to.

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>>387214597
>You deserve to die for not sharing my retarded opinion.

STREET FIGHTER V WAS A MISTAKE

>>387214549
SFIV sold more than tekken 6

>>387214215
buttmad because tekken sold more
cant wait for fighter z to btfo sf5

>>387214624
>if people weren't being paid to play SFV
That's grand, lad. Have you received your paycheck for playing SFV this month?

>>387214223
There is an undeniable luck factor but, it's weighed by the difference in skill between your opponent and you. If you are constantly pressured into guess-fest mix-ups, then you are probably bad at playing the neutral game, which is the root of the problem. This also varies wildly between games.

The honest to dishonest scale in recent times looks a bit like this.

KoF XIII > SF4 > KoF XIV > Tekken 7> SF5 > BB >> GG Xrd >> UMVC3

Games in the middle tend to be dishonest until you memorize ALL of the match ups.

>>387214560
You do know what he meant by actually playing, right? Story mode in a fighting game is about 5% of it at most. It's barely worth the hour it takes. A good tutorial mode is infinitely more important and worth bitching about way more than a story or arcade mode.

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I bought this game for the cute vampire girl. I'm happy with my purchase.

>>387214640
Yet GG with the same connection are fine lmfao

>>387214668
>Deep down, they know they'd get their shitter shattered, so they retreat to arcade mode to maintain the fantasy that they could beat everyone if they only tried, but they chose not to.
Projections aside, what's the issue here? It's not like grinding out online matches will make you an inherently better player than someone who plays at locals or anything.

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>>387214597

Survival mode sucks and you know it. Also Multiple story modes? What those two ROUND baby fights? With awful art?

>>T7 has an arcade mode

And treasure mode
and story mode
and character edit mode (which sucks worse than 6's but still)
and a larger roster
and endings using the in game models.

>hur durr you deserve to get shit.

Cry more Capcbro. Maybe if you cry enough for them they'll make you a half assed Mega Man game

>>387214549
street fighter games sell really well

>>387214732
>SF4
>Honest
It was slow but that game certainly had bullshit

>>387214727
I sold my copy weeks ago so...yes, technically.

No matter what, Tekken 7 is still objectively worse than 6

>>387214747

You do know that most casuals plays with their friends right? Remember those? People who share your interests and would come over your house and invite you over to theirs so you could play in person?

But hey you sure are a super badass because you beat up a kid in California who won't even remember your user name.

Like I said, a fucking cunt.

>>387214727
He means some of the pro players. They straight up say the only reason some of them play is because it's where the money is. In japan many even call the game "Duty Fighter V". This affects the popularity of the competitive scene which in turn affects the end users to a degree.

>hurrr i dont caer about some streams, esports sucks

Sure, neither do I but a lot of people do

>>387214798
Meant USF4, mb. I did say in recent times.

>>387214879
t. Lars baby

>>387214176
Tekken's story mode was ass. None of the cool characters showed up, just a congo line of boring shitters like Lars and that fucking reporter.
They should follow Mortal Kombat's example, make the story actually about the tournament and give each character a chance to shine.
That said, it's still the most enjoyable fighting game I've played in a long time

>>387214624
Arcade mode isn't even used in arcades to any appreciable extent now that machines have training mode.

>>387214697
No it did not
http://www.shacknews.com/article/58546/capcom-updates-lifetime-software-sales
>Street Fighter IV (PS3, Xbox 360 / February 2009) - 2.5 million
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2010-08-06-tekken-6-breaks-million-marker

Keep in mind that Tekken 6 had been out for less than 10 months at that point.

>>387214773
>And treasure mode
Skinnerbox that makes weak-minded idiots play for loot like MMO addicts.
>character edit mode
Ah yes, the argument to never feature customization items in a game ever again because of how ugly or flat-out stupid they are 98% of the time.
>and a larger roster
Doesn't matter, all Tekken characters play the same.

What is left is a game that is as barebone as SFV, yet SFV is demonized while T7 is worshipped.

Let's face it: People didn't buy T7 because they'd enjoy it, they bought it to spite Capcom, indicated by the steadily dropping playerbase. Tekkucks should be thanking Capcom for making their game seem more credible.

>go to play sfv online at any time.
>there's tons of people online and never run into repeated opponents.
> play tekken online.
>Have to wait a while to find matches. Sometimes there's barely anyone to play and are matched with the same person repeatedly.
Explain this then.

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>arms will sell more
How does that make you faggots feel?

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>"Tekken loading times are fin-"

>>387215074
>they bought it to spite Capcom,

>WAAAAAAAAAAAAAH STOP PICKING ON MUH BABY!


The sad part is you really believe this, don't you

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>>387215134
>PS4

>>387214732
Hilarious that everyone has suddenly forgotten how trashy SF4 was and wants to sing its praises now that SFV is even worse.

>>387215074
>Let's face it: People didn't buy T7 because they'd enjoy it, they bought it to spite Capcom
How fucking delusional do you have to be to seriously contemplate this? Not everybody is a /v/irgin, anon. Most people dont' give a shit about FGC drama and are casuals.

>>387213563
Tekken pretty much always sold way more copies than SF tho. Even Mortal Kombat does.

Post World Warrior SF is only popular with the competetive scene. After that, only vanilla 4 got some love from casuals since there were jackshit competition.

>>387214894
That chain of argumentation doesn't even make sense. If other people make a living of playing a game, why would you as a regular person succumb to something you're not making money of? After all, watching would be enough, and yet the playerbase for SFV has been solid over the past months. It's just a lazy argument altogether meant to rationalize the larger playerbase of a game you dislike.

Also, I have yet to find a single reputable source for the Duty Fighter V thing.

>>387214732
>100% damage hit confirm 3rd character the game
>most honest
What the kek

>>387213770
>still being this triggered by an actually clever joke character

>>387214979
USF4 still had its bullshit, you can be "dishonest" without relying on a 50/50.
>>387214884
>Casuals
That's the entire point. Casuals shouldn't have a direction of a fighting game because they get the least out of it. You could release a turd but if it had a 10-hour storyline casuals would still buy it.

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>>387213649
If only. We all had to wait for "early 2017".

>>387214367
>Loading times are a non-issue on PC.

I like Tekken 7 too but stop this "nothing's wrong with the game" bullshit. It makes you look like a completele fanboy moron.
Lobbies are beyond fucked in this game. I play with my mates all the time and it takes approx 40 seconds to get into a new match from the lobby screen. We all have the game on SSD.
Also in 2 player lobbies, I don't understand why they can't have the rematch option there. It's available in player matches and now in ranked mode too. What the fuck is Namco doing? Also is the loading screen necessary after you agree to a rematch?

>>387215058
Are you fucking stupid?
>Street Fighter IV has sold 3.4 million units
http://www.capcom.co.jp/ir/english/finance/million.html

If you count the rereleases and new version it's at 8.6 million

>>387215189
Are you denying the USF4 wasn't on the "honest" side of the spectrum compared to most of the games that game out after it?

The only good thing about Tekken is playing a street fighter character on it

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>>387215263
>Clever

>>387215204
Especially Tekken players, lol

But seriously: Hating Capcom is all the rage these days, so you fags jump on any new fighting game in order to "get back at them". Just because it's stupid doesn't mean it doesn't happen on a larger scale.
>KoFXIV will DESTROY SFV!
>GGR will DESTROY SFV!
>Rev2 will DESTROY SFV!
>DBFZ will DESTROY SFV!
And so on. Quite sad desu.

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>>387214750
I bought it for vampire tits, but her playstyle is too fucking different from normal tekken so i was forced to play milf tits instead.

>>387214597
>T6 had arcade mode with cutscene endings for all the characters
>expansive storymode with coop and rpg elements presented as beatemup with full moveset of every character
>Armor King and Raven in character pool instead of stupid sluts and maximum pandering guest characters
T6 was the best Tekken.

>>387215225
There is definitely people playing it so they can get sponsored. Japan doesn't have tournament payouts so it's the only way they can make money, and sponsors are only really interested in SFV because of its international esports profile. Better playing SFV 6 hours a day and Guilty Gear 6 hours a day than working 8 hours a day and playing Guilty Gear 4 hours, or whatever.

>>387215336
That's including $5 PC sales, which is bullshit, and including rereleases is fucking retarded. It's also still less than Tekken 6 anyways, which passed 3.5 million in 2011.

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>>387215380

>>387215445
>There is definitely people playing it so they can get sponsored.
Nigga, the vast majority of players haven't even broken into Gold rank. It's a stupid argument that makes anyone who spouts it look dishonest.

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>>387215297
>That's the entire point. Casuals shouldn't have a direction of a fighting game because they get the least out of it.

Oh, Fuck you. Here's a tip, retard. CASUALS are the only reason these games exist in the first place. Capcom isn't spending millions on this things to cater to the small hand full of PRO BADASS HARDCORE E-WARRIORS like you.

CASUALS MAKE THE INDUSTRY. You're not the only ones who get a say in this because you wasted your life on them. Don't be conceited. As far as Capcom is concerned you're all just morons dumb enough to pay for the chance to shill for them.


>You could release a turd but if it had a 10-hour storyline casuals would still buy it.


Right, and if you released nothing but wire frames swatting at each other you shit cunts would pay out the ass for the chance to beat some random tosser across the country.

You're not special. You're a self absorbed embarrassment who's done nothing but destroy the very genre you claim to be a fan of with your arrogance.

>>387215242
You don't get free pressure or mixups in XIII, ever. You literally can't say the same thing about any of the other games listed. I don't deny some obscure anime fighter could dethrone it as the most honest contemporary fighter, but out of the ones listed, it's the most honest by far.

>make bad game
>sells like shit
>make good game
>sells like hotcakes

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWW WHY DOES NOBODY LIKE WESTERN GAMES IS IT BECAUSE THEYRE LOWEST COMMON DENOMINATOR GARBAGE WOOWOOOOOWOOWOOOOWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWW!

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>>387215530
resist fascism and Trump comrade

>>387215530
>CASUALS MAKE THE INDUSTRY.
It's so funny to see /v/ trying to appear hardcore in most other genres, but then they're dropping turds like this one when it comes to fighting games. It's always fighting games when /v/ decides to justify being shit.

>>387215530
Don't be so angry because you're bad, anon.

>>387215363
I never realized how fucked up modern fighting games are when USF4 is actually on the honest side.

>>387215502
That's an alt. costume at best, not an actual character anon.

>>387215384
>Getting this trolled on /v/.
newfags

>>387215639

Because it's always fighting games that have the worst HARDCORE fan base.

>>387215546
>sales are an indicator of quality
You sure must like PUBG and Overwatch right now.

>>387215681
How? There are rotten apples in any community, but the average fighting game player will help you as long as you're willing to learn.

>>387213563
I'd feel better if more games supported cross-play.
Can't count on PC fighting games to stay alive.

>>387215517
Look you fuck do you want your proof of the claim or do you want to just keep repeating your bitching? It doesn't even matter if people are bad, it gives them something to aim for or at least feel a part of, and while online players at all make a small fraction of total sales they do make a large fraction of DLC sales and are responsible for drawing more casuals into buying the game.

>>387215738

They'll also throw a tantrum and call you a fag if you ask for a game to include basic features like arcade/story mode

>>387215692
they're not fighting games

fighting game players expect that the game is good and not hamstrung to pander to what the retards at capcom think are "casuals"

so sf5 flopped and it was well deserved

>>387215775
Yeah as opposed to MMO players that will literally pay to have the story removed

>>387215639
Most games dont require the equivalent of learning an instrument to play at a decent level
What he said rings true though, its the reason gamings been in the shitter and all the push for mobile in the last deacde+
Games grew to a bigger scope and became shittier in the process but started reeling in more money while making expiremental shit too risky so everyone banks on whatever sold like hotcakes last and tries to get in on it

>>387215775
story mode I can understand not including for jew reasons, but how hard is it to make a fucking arcade mode? it's just a series of matches against a fucking bot

>>387215757
Pretty sure cross-play enabled games require mediating servers on the publisher's side. Say bye-bye to online in SFV in a few years.

>>387215772

you know trophy data is view-able online right? Something like only 30 percent of players have even gotten the one for 10 ranked matches

>>387214392
I hate to start an argument over someone's choice of platform but you're expecting high quality performance from your internet to your console?

ain't ever happening.

Tekken 7 has the best netcode I've ever experienced on a fighter especially on pc

>>387215692
I thought I'd fire up SF5 after not playing for about nine months tonight, but I've been sitting in the matchmaking queue for about 15 minutes without getting a single match.

So maybe it's the best fucking game in the world right now, but I'll never know.

>>387215681
No, they're just the only ones where you get BTFO and can't blame how shit your team was. MOBA and MMO hardcore fans are objectively worse. In fact the FGC is the most welcoming due to having a most offline, in-person nature and grassroots tournaments. You interact with people physically on an often basis if you're trying to git gud.
>>387215775
If you're bitching about a story mode to the extent where you won't play the game, then you don't care enough to learn it mechanically. Mechanics are what make a fighting game good, not the modes. Extra modes are fluff to make it better, not what makes or breaks it.

>>387215668
the whole sfxt meagaman character was based on how notoriuosly bad the american megaman box arts were and how not faithful they were to the source material. They even made this joke when releasing mm9 and 10, it's a running gag.

>>387215779
>they're not fighting games
Makes no difference. 3S is one of the most beloved fighting game of all times and it bombed hard. The statement still stands.

>>387215937
3s achieved cult status and sold 10 times more in its lifespan than sf5 ever will- because it is a good game

>>387215883
all online play requires some servers on the publisher's side though
and I don't doubt that Super Street Fighter V is coming eventually
they'll just resell the same game with a couple seasons of content

>>387215891
I just fucking said that you stupid fuck

>>387215772
Don't get mad at me because you can't logically support your argument. Someone stuck in Silver League since release has no illusions about his chances of ever becoming a pro Street Fighter player. Not everyone can delude himself as hard as you, apparently.

>>387215975
>good game
>only 2 characters can be played at the highest level
>parry literally anything

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>capshill defence force
>can't even say anything good about their own game, have to attack others
LOVING
EVERY
LEL

>>387216025
yes, compare it to trash like sf5 it's like heaven

>>387213649
Jesus how fucking retarded you are.

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>>387215928
>If you're bitching about a story mode to the extent where you won't play the game, then you don't care enough to learn it mechanically.


No. What I CARE about is not getting ripped off because Capcom think's Im a retard. What I care about is getting a full value for 60 fucking dollars. The game is literally a fucking rip off.

If the game came out and was either a F2P or reduced cost it would be one thing but it's not. It's half a game being release for a full price and if you can't see the actual issue then you are literally LITERALLY retarded.

>>387215975
>sold 10 times more in its lifespan than sf5
lolno

>>387213563
Neat. It's about time Capcom crashes and burns. Now we only need DBFZ to give them the coup of grace.

>>387216090
good argument

>>387216025
>>only 2 characters can be played at the highest level


You mean the level most players won't ever EVER achieve.


>Better put down the foot ball, Timmy. There's no sense in playing if you're not going to super bowl.

>>387213850
>>387213953
>>387213969
>>387214129
>>387216047
Not an argument

>>387216132
>no sales figures
gg no re

>>387216013
I'm not in your argument, if you can't fucking deal with that go to fucking reddit and jam the usernames up your ass

>>387216154
if you factor in second hand sales and friends lending it to each other it's probably more like 1000 times the sf5 sales

nobody wants to borrow garbage like sf5 sorry kiddo :)

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>>387213563
ok shitposters liten up.
I entered this thread on purpose to see if any "nintetoddler" was shitposting about ARMS selling more than both of them, but I couldnt find any.

As always, it's fun to see Sonygros make a full thread (up in this very moment) abott switching to the "good side".
In every single splatoon2 and Arms thread you can find consolewar and people shitposting.

I used to come to /v/ more than 5 years ago before starting university. I didnt play games for the longest time. I just purchased a swith for my gf and myself and came back here to see what today's teenager were playing.
You people dont play games, you just complain about what you cant have. And if everybody can have what they want you bash it on purpose.

If you agree with all of this, remind yourself to never trust /v/ and reviwers. Just buy what looks fun to you and what your friends are playing, as playing together is always fun.

I owned every console that ever existed up to last gen (xbox1, ps4, wiiu),
and just by playing style the switch is the best one I ever had, I easily put already 70h in splatoon2, and cant see them being enough for the next 2 years.
How can you have so much free time to being in need of 1 game every week? Dont you work, anon?
Few GOOD games are enough.

I wont be back here, I dont like talking to people who lie to themselves.

>inb4 see you next week
>inb4 nintendo fan boy

I hate your (/v/) attitude, not a company or good games.
If ps4 had enough games that interested me I could buy it in this moment.
But it doesnt. Switch already had a new zelda and solatoon2, later will have mario, pokemon, metroid and xenoblade.
These games are enough for years for me.

Just understand the company's target and how not influencing yo mu are /v/.

Also shame on Sony ablut trying to slow down or stop switch production while at the same time pretending they like sharing the market.
Do yourself you crybaby.

>>387216140
Yes, because such imbalance is completely invisible at lower levels of play, and in no way, shape or form, affects balance.

>>387216080
You'd get your $60 worth if you actually played fighting games against other people on a regular basis. Or do you think a 4 hour story mode and generic arcade would somehow skyrocket it from a $20 game up to a $60 game? You're absolutely retarded

>>387216041
SF5 is 3s with the execution removed. They're both shit games built around nonexistent zoning.

>>387216178
>so butthurt he needs to call reddit
The warcry of the defeated.

>>387216232
>sf5 is 3s with the good parts removed

thanks for agreeing with me

>>387216039
>muh capcbro boogeyman

>>387216202
Not an argument.

>>387216237
WOAH I TOTALLY CALLED OUT THAT GUY THAT WASN'T EVEN THE DUDE I WAS EVEN REPLYING TOO, I FUCKING WIN THE ARGUMENT

Holy fuck I hope you trip down the stairs and die

>tfw dont care about being casual at sf because all Ive ever done was arcade and dick around with friends since alpha on my ps1
I know enough to get by but have no fucking interest in building muscle memory for links or memorizing what has +/- on block
Didnt buy sf5 because no akuma on launch and by the time he came out I had lost interest in the game as a whole

>>387215931
When MM9/MM10 was released, it was a funny mythological gag that played up how those games were a return to form after decades of not having a classic Megaman game.

In SFxT, it felt more like insult to injury than a funny gag simply because at the time, Capcom killed every Megaman project they were developing at the time and even to this day, the closest we've seen of a Megaman game was a shitty smartphone app.

Now, if it was an alt. skin for Megaman then it wouldn't be that big of a deal, but the problem is that they made him a different character that played nothing like Megaman did.

>>387216267
wtf i love sf5 now

>>387216205
>Reddit spacing
>"I haven't played games in 5+ years"
>But suddenly, my opinion matters, people will care what I have to say

>>387216282
sf5 is trash and sold like trash that's a fact

>>387216147
Keep digging your hole retard.

>>387216291
>I'm not that guy!
Pathetic.

Still not an argument, by the way.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
TEKKEN 7 WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THE BIGGER BLUNDER
ALL THESE MONTHS I'VE SPENT SHITPOSTING A BRAGGING... I LOOK LIKE A FUCKING IDIOT NOW
IM LITRERALLY GOING TO FUCKING KILL MYSELF

>>387216302
Fucking casuals.

>>387216230
>You'd get your $60 worth if you actually played fighting games against other people on a regular basis.

Yeah Id else go and get it if I bought a different fucking game that Ill play on a regular basis. Just because I don't play YOUR game doesn't mean Im not playing any game. Ive gotten a lot of hours out of Tekken because SURPRISE it's possible to enjoy both kinds of play.

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>>387213839
>game series that gets WAY less cock suck than Streetfighter
>hardly ever used to get discussed here
>somehow get's accused of getting away with it as if it's the board darling somehow and people now suddenly have a bias against the tragic misunderstood hero Street Fighter V

>>387216326
that nigger obviously posted in the wrong thread, why are you replying to him?

>>387215903
Been in the matchmaking queue for both ranked and casual for almost half an hour and still haven't gotten a match. I thought this game wasn't dead.

>>387216329
So did 3S. Funny, huh.

>>387213563
tekken 7 is better than sf5 so it's good that it sold more. sf5 undersold significantly, compared to capcoms predictions, which was bad, but understandable. tekken 7 massively oversold compared to bamcos predictions, and it's not that good a game, so that's good because it means people still want to play fighting games.

of course for some reason people don't want to acknowledge that the most profitable fighting games in the west are nrs games, and that doa has made the most money in the east via dlc sales.

overall i suppose the bad thing is that there's still too many people who just want to play something with ryu in it and are unwilling to cross over to either better games or more popular ones.

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>>387216316
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA THE CAPKUK BULLIES ARE BEING MEAN TO ME AGAIN MOOOOOOMMYYYYYYYYYY

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>>387216205
ALSO, reminder that melee is the oldest and most complex game still played at evo, they even have 2 installments of the same serie being played, AGAINST the will of the producers, just thanks to the power of their community.
If you dont recognize how complex and a thing of beauty that game is, you are just a fanboy and probably never played it.

I still didnt play arms, but I will pick it up for sure, cause if we had to trust reviews or people online who dont even like videogames we wouldnt play and hate everything.

>>387215992
>all online play requires some servers on the publisher's side though
P2P doesn't, and unless you really believe Steam is in danger of dying in your lifetime, games that rely on it for multiplayer are gonna have one hell of a long lifespan.

Goddammit google captcha, every single one of those images have cars in them, fuck OFF.

>>387216405
the irony being more people are playing 3s this second than 5, and the disparity between the two is only going to become more egregious as time goes on

i give sf5 a year max before playercount hits 0

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>>387216205

>>387216367
>tekkuck prefers shitposting over playing his game
Makes you wonder.

>>387213563
Anyone who's been exposed to more technical, more dynamic fighting games will quickly pass on tekken. Other top fighters, namely Street Fighter, KoF and MK have advanced impressively in their latest installments; but the relic that is tekken just can't seem to evolve, furthermore many combos can be done simply by hitting 1-button, and the nearly "instant-kill" rage art moves are just laughably broken. Instead of a supplying a proper fighting engine, matches in T7 seem to rely heavily on "who can get their rage move off first". So many elements of the gameplay don't even require any sort of skill. In my book, slow motion over and over again also gets old very quickly. And in the end, it's more of a novelty or gimmick rather than an actual, thought-out fighting game mechanic. But hey, the casual crowd will be pleased!

If you want something a little more "button-masher-friendly," tekken might be your cup of tea.... Key word, might.

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>>387216446
>Goddammit google captcha, every single one of those images have cars in them, fuck OFF.

Click Settings

Under Quotes and Replying click LEGACY CAPTCHA

You're welcome

>>387213839
the 'just because' is 'just because it's fun' though

like a game can be forgiven a lot of flaws if it's also a good video game.

>>387215263
>Kill a franchise
>Add the rotting corpse of its protagonist to an unrelated game
>It turns out its based on old shitty box art
>"WTF why doesn't anyone get the joke??!!?!"
They had no right to joke about it.

>>387216453
>the irony being more people are playing 3s this second than 5
jcdenton.jpg

>>387216457
every fanbase has shitposters on /v/, get off your high horse

>>387214392

japan uses wifi, but it;s japan, a small nation, while in the us, we have a vast majority to cross.

>>387216446
>P2P doesn't,
Peers have to find each other some how (they contact a central server), and it's not so much that I believe Steam will die as I believe that the SFV Steam players will move on to other games, as fighting game players on PC tend to do.

>>387213563
Just fine. Tekken is one of my favorite fighting games ever.

>>387216441
Melee is cool but it's destined to die out because new players don't enter the competition and it's become stale. All potential new players get into Smash4 which is a shit fucking game to watch. Nintendo is so dumb holy shit. They could milk the esports scene with their games but they actively chose not to.

>>387216523
i havent spoken to a single fan of the series who said the words "i like this game"

>>387216529
>damage control

>>387216478
Isn't "mash light punch" a viable strategy in SFV though?

>>387216413
tekken 7 is garbage, also it didnt sell more, SFV has a higher number of sales, OPs click bait article even says SFV has sold more.

but i guess tekken babies cant actually read

>>387216605
>milk the esports scene
With an ancient game they aren't making any money off of?

>>387216441
Melee is played mostly by white people. It ain't no fighting game.

>>387216441
I don't respect autism, which is why you should fuck off

>>387216614
>anecdotical evidence

>>387216423
wtf i hate tekken now

>>387213563
good for tekken, i dont like 3d fighters though

>>387216642
well then that's bad instead of that's good lol.

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>>387216670
LOL

>>387216642
>actually reading articles
LOOOOL CHECK THIS LOSER OUT

>>387213917
>complete lack of tutorial
Are you implying this is a bad thing?
When i was a fucking kid, there was no such thing as tutorials, and it kept the fucking scrubs away

>>387216646
They could if they were smart about it and released a smash game targetted at more hardcore fans (think Melee HD).

>>387213770
/thread

>>387213917
story mode has a bit of tutorial.

>>387216581
Nigga, fighting game players on EVERY platform tend to do that. If anything, fightcade is proof that old fighting games will always have a playerbase on PC.

>>387216413
>tekken 7 massively oversold compared to bamcos predictions

No it hasn't, they want 2 million by the end of the year so it's on track, they haven't beaten any targets atm

>>387214879
WHAT THE FUCK. GET OUT.

>>387216761
>Melee HD
but then they wouldn't be able to play it on their CRTs

>>387216786
They are dreaming if they think they are getting 2mil.

>>387216781
>on EVERY platform
I think it hits PC particularly hard, and having crossplay is simply better than not having it, especially for PC players because so many more people play the game on console.

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>>387216709
Those are solid numbers for a fighting game on PC. Especially for one that's been out for as long and that's been as hated as SFV.

Meanwhile, after only two months...

>>387216605
I thought Melee was destined to die no matter what due to the various controller input issues preventing it from being adapted by new hardware.

>>387216839
They've sold 1.67m in 2 months, bro. 330k in 10 months isn't really pushing it.

>>387216707
Also SF4 sold 8 million, MKX sold 5 million and tekken 6 sold 3 million.

>>387216897
it's a much healthier population than sf5

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>>387215053
>None of the cool characters showed up

But it was literally all about him.

>>387216897
USF4, an expansion to an expansion to an expansion, had more players when Capcom killed it than SF5 does now.

>>387216934
Far from it, considering for how long it has been out. Keep in mind the playerbase keeps dropping steadily.

>>387216605
Smash as an eSport would only expose the glaring flaws in design inherent to those games.

>eSports Melee HD
>Only 3 characters see any play ever
>The old crowd drops their 20 inches e-dong on everyone and crushes all the competition with their 15 years head start
>Literally changes nothing

>eSports Sm4sh
>No ad revenue as people realize watching paint dry is more fun than watching a "fighting game" permanently stuck on the neutral game.

>>387216981
more than double the playercount of sf5 means the playerbase is much more healthy, moron

>>387216962
Not true. Shortly before SFV was released, maybe 600 people played USFIV. SFV beats that number easily.

>>387216880
>I think it hits PC particularly hard
Well, I think it doesn't so we're at an impasse until either of us starts dropping some numbers, and I really don't care enough to do that.

>>387217004
Which part about "playerbase keeps dropping steadily" did you not understand, brainlet? At this rate, SFV will surpass T7 in daily players within 3 months. And unlike SFV, T7 doesn't have crossplay.

>>387217091
i bet you believe in global warming too

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NOW GIVE ME SOUL CALIBUR

>>387217123
Yeah man, fuck evidence! I know in my heart global warming isn't real...

>>387217090
Same, but my second point remains regardless of how true the first one is.

>>387217173
>"evidence"
>extrapolations made by left wing funded """scientists""" based on hundreds of climate models that are all vastly incorrect

like your predictions for tekken's playercount :^)

>>387215074
>they only bought it to spite Capcom

Holy shit kid, is that actually how you conduct your life, that is fucking awful that that was even your go to logic. Nah fuck you, i have been playing Tekken for 20 years. It always sells better than SF (which i also buy you fag) fuck your terrible logic.

>>387217237
>too smart for science
Just keep your car away from large crowds.

>>387217237
I know this is just bait but some one somewhere actually believes this.

>>387217308
do you think i'm a muslim or something?

>>387216709
>>387216897
>fighting games audience
>PC
pick one

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>>387214489
>VGCHARTZ

>>387217356
I wasn't aware of muslim nazis.

>>387217237
>>387217308
>>>> /pol/

>>387215384
You are incredibly delusional friend. I just dropped SFV and bought SFIV for my PS4 instead and love it. Is that me getting back at capcom is it? We drop SFV because it's just not as fun. I only keep it around now in hopes that Salura or Makoto might get in still.

>>387217356
>>387217308
>>387217237
>>387217173
>>387217123
>/pol/
Welp, thread's over. Nice knowing ya fellas.

>>387217403
muslims tend to drive vehicles into people quite often champ

watch any news outlet other than CNN to get more in touch with reality

>>387217376
Fighting games have always been played on PC

Arcade > PC > > > console

>>387217460
>MSM
>reality

>>387215649
Compared to SF2's dirty ass Vega, KoF98's dirty as fuck Iori, MvC in general, Guilty Gear in general, etc.

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>>387217481
>lying on the internet
ah yes, good old tradition of local multiplayer on PC
how could I forget

Why is leftypol defending SF5 so hard?

>>387217618
>lefties
>retarded
Sounds about right.

>>387215775
>>387215530
why are you throwing a tantrum?

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>>387217563
Are you actually trying to say PC has no local multiplayer?

buy tekken

>>387217520
I do.

>>387217618
Once you start down the road of a paid shill, you can't go back.

>>387217676
Perhaps eventually.

>>387217563
Look at this retarded fucking subhuman lmao. Hurry up and kill yourself, nigger.

>>387217676
Anyone who's been exposed to more technical, more dynamic fighting games will quickly pass on tekken. Other top fighters, namely Street Fighter, KoF and MK have advanced impressively in their latest installments; but the relic that is tekken just can't seem to evolve, furthermore many combos can be done simply by hitting 1-button, and the nearly "instant-kill" rage art moves are just laughably broken. Instead of a supplying a proper fighting engine, matches in T7 seem to rely heavily on "who can get their rage move off first". So many elements of the gameplay don't even require any sort of skill. In my book, slow motion over and over again also gets old very quickly. And in the end, it's more of a novelty or gimmick rather than an actual, thought-out fighting game mechanic. But hey, the casual crowd will be pleased!

If you want something a little more "button-masher-friendly," tekken might be your cup of tea.... Key word, MIGHT.

>>387215681
Dunno anon, souls faggots really are faggots about it.

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>>387217662
It has. One of my best memories is playing Liero with friends
but let's not kid ourself that it was any popular aside occasional moments. I played at best tiny fraction of fighting games on PC compared to amount I played on consoles.

>>387214078

If you fags truly cared about netcode you'd be playing GG rev 2.

>>387217831
Anime games suck, though.

>>387217831
rev 2 has shitty input delay

fuck that

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>>387217831
>goober shilling his piece of shit garbage cuck game
Ayy, fuck off fag.

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>>387214162

>50 second loading times
>tfw the console life is real

I got the game on PC and I know consoles use the lowest quality slowest hard drives available but damn that's bad. I have a meh hard drive that came in an el cheapo dell and the game load speed ain't bad.

>>387217826
PC is pretty much the go to for fighting games, especially older games with shitty console ports

>>387217831
Goober gay has shit netcode though, not only is it shit but its delay and not rollback.

>>387217831
>another goober doesn't even know how shitty his game is because he never actually plays it
lmao pottery

>>387218116
Dunno, I grew up in Russia, and considering it's basically country which was all about PC as soon they become more affordable - I still played fighting games and other local mp games more on consoles during that time than on PC.
Right now with online it become easier sure, but even other people I know, hardly play fighting games, usually still have PS3 for local mp.
It's just uncomfortable to play fighting games locally on pc

>>387218358
That's because Ruskies only play HoMM, CS and ASSFAGGOTS.

>It's just uncomfortable to play fighting games locally on pc
Maybe if you're retarded. Then again you're a slav so that's even worse.

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>>387218254

Does Guilty Gear have shit gameplay? The game is known to emphasize gameplay and style over everything else so... Oh right I forgot /v/ doesn't give a fuck about gameplay instead they'll obsess and flock over w/e else is currently being marketed.

>>387218492
>The game is known to emphasize setplay over everything else*

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>>387218453
they do not, but if you love your stereotypes so much, your call
Only decent way to play local mp on PC is having a projector. not everyone has that.

>>387214215
I know you're not talking about Poongko.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mpXOYL25bo

>>387215263
It would be clever if Mega Man actually got his games.

>>387218562
Stereotypes are generally true.

For example look at this:
>Only decent way to play local mp on PC is having a projector.
You are enforcing the stereotype that slavs are fucking retarded.

>>387218584
Why does Poongko always cry?

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>>387218542

>I have to learn a serious arcade fighting game before I can get in and shit on everyone

Wow I didn't know this 'problem' was a thing, no wonder Capcom casualized the shit out of SF. So tactical people like you can play the game!

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>>387218638
I'm talking from 15 year experience of playing primarily on PC only before I got any modern consoles
but hey, what do I know

Do people in this thread even play any fighting games, they hate literally everything
>M-muh frames
>M-muh netcode
None of these matter unless you are in tournaments (which none of you ever will)

>>387218783
netcode and frames matter. No one likes a game that feels sluggish

>>387218783
>netcode
>tournaments
Ebin

>>387218562
>Only decent way to play local mp on PC is having a projector
lolno

>>387214176
>Fighting game
>story
this plotfaggotry needs to end.

>>387218993
fine, you can connect it all to tv, I found projector is more common cause people love making mini cinema setup

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Why can't Heihachi catch a break in the dojo? Why does everyone keep giving him shit?

@387219058
Fuck off retard.

>>387216147
But it's exaclty an argument because we cannot measure sales via arcade can we?? Also if it really has been out for so long and available to us, why would we suddenly all just buy it now in 2017? Can i also disregard much of any SF games sales that had an arcade release?

>>387219137
???????????????????????

Faggots play fighters but can't fight in real life LMFAOOO

>>387216205
Maybe because they'll get ignored/laughed at.
If you have a wiiU there isn't much to the switch, the new Zelda is just a port that was botchered to make the two versions exactly the same, I assume Mario started development on the WiiU as well.
/v/ has the 5 games rule and it's very good
>Also shame on Sony ablut trying to slow down or stop switch production while at the same time pretending they like sharing the market.
What?

>>387219378
Good thing none of us are gay then

>>387219056
Or you could just use a PC monitor

>>387218584
love how he eats the hop kicks every single time.

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>>387216746
Anon, i too have been playing Tekken since T2 in 1997, but i think these games need tutorials. The fact that i had to learn the hard way wouldn't make me a better player than someone who can be taught via tutorial. All denying them that does is say "i will keep you shit so ou cannot defeat me, i had to learn the hard way"

Imagine if real life did this. Take a real life martial art, Judo was condensed down and founded by one man, was he wrong to teach people things that he had to learn the hard way for himself? He still made champions that otherwise may never have even concived of such ideas themselves.

>>387219547
Two people sitting in front of pc? hardly ever happens.
it's uncommon, deal with it.

>>387219378
Faggots play GTA but can't steal a car in real life LMFAOOO

>>387217730
You must be so mad it never worked out like you thought it would. Kek.

>>387219056
projectors have terrible input lag tho

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>>387216205
>>387216441
>mfw being a Nintendo fan and watching every other Nintendo fan be a complete retard like this

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>>387219378
Judo & BJJ fag here, id do "okay" maybe

>>387219695
Are you retarded or is this just bait?

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>>387216441
>melee
>complex

>>387219056
>fine, you can connect it all to tv
No shit you dumbass. What's the fucking difference? You're still connecting one fucking box to a TV.

For fuck's sake, why are slavs so fucking moronic?

>>387220657
you are new to all this playing games on PC thing, I see

>>387220738
You are new to cables I see.

>>387220793
Playing on PC eventually gets old. to point of not wanting to bother with any hassle
so I use PC for only PC oriented games, 4X and such. No point playing quite a few other genres on this

>>387219378
>learn every martial art on the planet
>still get shot from a distance
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW I GUARDED AGAINST THE PROJECTILE STUPID INPUT LAG

>>387216307
Fucking Smash is still the only fighting yes, I know what replies I'll get for that game Megaman's ever been in

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>>387220884
>learn every martial art on the planet

That's not how you git gud anon. Jack of all trades and that.

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>>387220974

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>>387221125
Is he wrong?

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>>387221171
Extremely

>>387216218
It sure as hell wont make a difference when fighting crybaby shitters like you.

Reminder tekken 7 has the most input lag out of any fighting game ever made.

http://shoryuken.com/2017/06/02/tekken-7s-input-delay-has-been-tested-heres-how-it-compares-to-other-games-and-its-predecessors/

>>387221171
he's been in nearly every vs. Capcom game

>>387221469
It's so the game feels the same offline and online with acceptable latency. All games do it.

>>387221469
launch SFV had more input lag

>>387221535
Except games that are actually good and don't have a delay netcode.

>>387221750
It's not that simple. You want the game to "feel" the same whether you are playing LAN, with 10ms delay, with 40ms or with 60ms. That's why you introduce artificial delay to match the worst connection you think is acceptable.

I don't wanna have to learn combos based on my opponents connection.

>>387221535
No, no they dont

>>387219814
I was about to agree with you but I'll just call you a dumb frogposter

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>>387221535
>>387221538

>>387216618
does making a valid point just equal damage control now?
is that what you say when someone brings up a good argument? "damage control" ?

>>387213563
Hearthstone making more money than Tekken 7 and SF5 combined. Truly the game of awesomely skilled masters.

>>387214489
It apparently sold 600000 on Xbox. VGchartz only talk about retail.

>>387221850
This would be the case only if Tekken reduced the input lag when playing online so that the input delay + online lag was equal to the input delay when playing locally, but it doesn't do that.

Thankfully on pc you can kinda do this by turning off vsync when playing online since it reduces input delay. Its not perfect but in most cases it feels like playing offline since vsync reduces the delay by about 3f and most online matches are going to be 1-3f lag

>>387217618
Because they're leftist sjw jew shills

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>>387222867
Fuck off /pol/

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>>387219378
1v1 me fggt
meet me at the sandbox
no items

>>387223182
>bald Buddhist monk wearing a religious swastika gets brutally assaulted by a pair of violent SJW thugs

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>>387214489
>xbots don't play fighting gam-

>>387223460
>free to play game

>>387223182
>people that hate sjw shit are nazis now
are you fucking retarded or judt a meme spouting cuckfag

>>387223603
You have only one character in F2P. Either buy the game or buy character by character or have only one.

>>387223742
Fuck off /pol/

>>387223802
Yes faggot and read pic related >>387223460

>6 millions unique users played KI
Because it's fucking free and they tried it out once and never touched it again. It's fucking dead.

>>387223914
It's not dead. Hence i just find a party within 1 min. You think people are going to stay with only one character? lol.

>>387224083
found*

>>387213563
>How do you feel about the state of fighting games

bad, not enough normies to stomp.

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>>387224165
>my complaint is there aren't enough people weaker than me to crush

No john. YOU are the normies.

>>387224083
then show us the actual numbers of people upgrading?

>>387213563
I'm glad tekken is doing well.

>>387224665
Its sold less than SFV, thats not "doing well"

>>387224609
I don't have any unfortunately :^).

>>387224746
It's been out for less than SFV.

>>387224746
>>Tekken 7 sold more units in two months than Street Fighter 5 did in a year
>>Its sold less than SFV, thats not "doing well"
???

>>387213563
Isn't Tekken way more popular among normies, though?

>>387224935
Tekken 7 has so far sold LESS than SFV.

SFV sold very poorly

Selling less than a game that sold like shit is not a measurement of success

Do you understand yet?

>>387225062
In terms of pure numbers, it hasn't outsold sfv -yet-, it has however leaped past sfv sales in comparable timeframe (first 2 months of launch)

>>387225062
So it is doing better than SFV was at this point and still needs more time to catch up?

do you think team battle will be locked behind DLC?