F-fuck bros...this was supposed to be THE sonic game.

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>86 is bad

Suddenly an 86 is bad. Jesus, if Crash can get a way with horrible controls in current year, than Sonic is be too.

>Implying sonic games have ever been good
If not for the rabid furry fanbase it would have died with the 90s

>>387142947
That's a good score. A very good score for a rehashed sonic game.

>>387142947
Can't wait for it to get 89 on Switch

Reminder that giving a number to a piece of entertainment/art is fucking retarded

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>>387142947
86 is actually a lot higher than the 78 and 77 for Sonic Colors and Sonic Generations, respectively. Those were considered to be the most well received Sonic games in this day and age.

>>387143025
>>387143071
>>387143135
It's not bad obviously but this was supposed to SAVE the sonic series.

God knows how low Forces is gonna score, 50s probably.

WE DID IT BROS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIkD2KvmmEQ

The original Sonic games looked ugly as fuck.

You can't even tell the difference from the background and foreground.

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>One might say that the opinion I’m about to share is just based on a first time playthrough, but I can assure you that I have exhausted all the potential this game has to offer and it has led me to one conclusion: Sonic Mania is not only the best Sonic game in recent years, it may just be the best 2D Platformer, period.
>Sonic Mania surpasses the Mega Drive/Genesis originals. It not only incorporates what made Sonic great, but has the inventiveness to shatter what was possible in a 2D platformer. As a nostalgia trip, it sets the bar for what comes next for the modding community. For those unexposed to what made 2D Sonic great, this is still a solid game in its own right and may create new fans in the process. If being this good took ages, it’s about damn time.

Score: 10/10

>>387142947
for a company that has no money for reviews or nostalgia factor build up between ""critics"", i'd say that's a good score.

Gamespot called it the best Sonic game of all time

A rehash of 2D sidescrolling platformer from the 90s complete with animal mascot getting anything above a 75 should be considered a miracle, really.

>>387143323
Only CD has this problem

Is 2017 the 1997 of our generation?

>>387143323
How does this faggot find the time to post this shit in every sonic thread?

Even Jim Sterling gave it 9.5.

>>387143413
This game is 90% nostalgia bait though

BING BING... WAHOO...?

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Nostalgia fags BTFO
Ready for the real Sonic kino?

>>387143582
who cares about that fat cuck's opinion?

>>387143553

Its been a strong year but go back and look at 1997-1998. Those years are full of genre defining games, absolute killers.

We will NEVER see anything like that again.

>>387143582
Is this best timeline?

>>387143190
Is this really how delusional anti-Modern Sonic fags are?

>>387143582
He gave fall out four a 10/10

>>387143696

In fairness, I would rank 2000/2001/2004 with those years.

>>387143650
I'm gonna pirate that so hard.

Alright, I've decided to grab this game. So, it's digital only? Is there a difference if I grab it on my PS4 or Switch? Thinking Switch since portable, but I haven't tried buying anything on the Eshop for Switch yet.

>>387143190

>It's not bad obviously but this was supposed to SAVE the sonic series.

Nobody but delusional idiots thought this. Sonic's reputation has been in the shitter for so long that it would take at least a string of great to fantastic games released one after the other to start turning his image around. Forces always looked like it was going to turn around any good will about the franchise as a whole that Mania dug up.

To be honest, I think this will generate enough sales to warrant a 2nd game.

Provided Iizuka doesn't pull anything retarded out of spite.

Good. I hope the game does just well enough that they just continue to let these dudes make new classic sonics on the same scale as Mania instead of a full on revival.

>>387143418
gamespot used to be a decent reviewer but they've been really shit for a good while now. it's relevant what they think desu

>>387143937
>Provided Iizuka doesn't pull anything retarded

not a good bet

>>387143841
It runs the same on all platforms right now, so go ahead

>>387143696
You can't combine two years and say it's better than 2017 alone. Pick one.

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>even a fucking Sonic game manages to get a higher score than Splatoon 2
Say it with me, guys
SEGA DOES WHAT NINTENDON'T
NINTENDO IS FUCKING DEAD
SEGA IS COMING BACK

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Hmm...

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>>387142947
>THE sonic game
Ummmm. No it was for nostalgia shitters.
Forces is the real Sonic game this year.

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>>387144275
Sure thing.

I'm never sure about these threads. I just wish review score discussion was against the rules. It's almost as bad as console war shitposting and it usually incites that anyway. Why allow it to continue? Review score discussion should be banned from /v/. Forever.

>>387144270
>No.1 compliant was it was too hard :(
Reviewers are shit at vidya

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>7 more hours

>>387144270
Hitbox jank and load times are weighing Nsane down right now. Hopefully there's a patch or future ports fix the issues. I'd be pretty salty if they were fixed for a port without PS4 being patched though.

>>387142947
Fuck Bros.. op wasn't supposed to be THE biggest faggot.

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Fans for literally over a decade:
>take Sonic away from Sonic Team, give it to another dev

>Sega finally listens
>by far the highest rated Sonic since Sonic Adventure 2

>>387143071
>Than Sonic is be too
Wanna try that one again, champ?

>>387144508
Who wants to bet that despite this, Sega will kill off any chance at a Mania series.

>>387142947
Don't forget that the people reviewing this game probably had trouble going past the first loop like the ones that played it in that IGN video

>>387144508
Sonic team is pure shit, other than their ability to make great puzzle games.

Fuck it, they should call it puzzle team, and just do Puyo Puyo and Remake Chu Chu Rocket.

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>>387142947
>>387143190
oh no.....
it's over true sonic fans....
maina is shit...

how the fuck is 86 bad lmao

>>387142947
Pretty sure this is the highest rated Sonic since Advanced

Sonic CD is 93
SA2 is 89
Advance is 87
Sonic 2 on 3DS is 87
Mania is 86.

>>387143076
Fucking this. The only reasons Sonic was given the time of day is because it was the flagship game for the Genesis back in the day when Nintendo only had the NES out. Objectively speaking, the 2D Sonic games have nothing going for them besides silly 90s marketing

>>387144696
Jesus Christ, the metascores of the Sonic games are absolutely retarded.

>>387144664
Sonic Team is great at everything except Sonic

Why is it that anytime a major release comes out the metacritic score is used as shitposting URL no matter if it's good or bad?

>>387144591
>former fangame maker hired to produce an official title
>knocks it out of the park, shames Sonic Team and Sega Japan
Classic Sonic is dead forever.

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>>387144694
You got me.

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>>387144664
I realized this after I played PSO2. They pandered so hard to the PSO1 fans, yet when I finally got my hands on it it was missing a lot of the magic the first had. ST lost their talent.

>>387142947
>86 is bad
modern_review_scores.jpg

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>>387144696
>CD rated that high
Justice t b h. CD is great

>>387144664
Correctly, I recently played Puyo Puyo Tetris on Switch and it's a fucking A+.

>>387144810
It's because this board is filled with dumb trolls.

>>387144849
Sonic Team has brought GREAT DISHONOR to their company and their name. They honestly should commit Sudoku and sell it in their next Puyo Puyo game.

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>>387142947

>>387144253
It deserved a much higher score than that. Many critics never even played the original. Many critics also only played it with stick controls

>>387144696
>CD that high
Did these metascores just get picked at random?

>>387143573

How do you find the time to notice that shit in every Sonic thread?

If Super Mario Oddesy gets less than a 99 I'm Hacking metacritic

>>387144919
Talking about puyo puyo tetris, when's the balance patch coming?

>>387144696
>Sonic CD is 93

Sounds about right.

>>387144986
>back in my day reviews and games were better! :)
no, you were just a little shit without standards who played and read whatever he could have gotten

>>387144919
>£35

Jesus Christ

>>387144986
This should be split into Japan and West, with "Possible GOTY" only on the western game scale.

>>387145103
It'll get a 99 until Cuck Sterling gets triggered and gives it a 6.5 to bring it down.

>>387142947
86 is good for a platformer. Great even considering its "age".

>>387144986
I swear a game could have game breaking bugs or not even launch and these retards would still give it a 5

>>387145181
It has tons of content, don't be one of the people who think puzzle games can't be full-price, especially when they're two and mashed up in a myriad ways.

>>387144986
BotW is the only game that's received so many 10s though

>>387143745
No he didn't, he gave it a 9.5/10, still more than it deserves though

will /v/ shitpost about ANY game no matter what the review score is? like wtf

>>387144750
They're fun platformers. You can't get away with 5 best selling console games in a row on the basis of cute commercials, and you're delusional if you think otherwise.

Mario isn't some pinnacle of human creativity or achievement, it's a barebones platforming game and Sega gave him a run for his money on a regular basis. Get over yourself.

>only 4 original levels
>the others have at best some remixed parts

If I wanted to play the classic levels, I'd just play the classic levels. I'm fine with green hill zone coming back for practically every game, bit jesus man we already had Generations for that nostalgia push.

Waiting for a sale, since I won't pay full price for old content.

>>387145401
i see you started browsing this board today

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>>387144986

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>>387142947
shame it didn't make the cut

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Uh Guys?!

DOWN DOWN DOWN

>>387144343
>sonic generations looks better than forces

>>387145737
PANIC. PANIC. PANIC.

>>387145737
Some site gave it like a 60 so it brought the score down.

>>387145630

Should be 1 through 6 - pure shit
7 - Diamonds in the rough if you aren't a casual
8 and 9 - probably good, depending on your taste
10 - probably boring as fuck after 6 hours

Autistic Children will keep Sonic alive forever no matter how bad the games are.

>>387145835
>>387145803
>>387145737

It was Polygon

>>387145980
>sonic will be around forever
>somehow adventure 3 will still not be made

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>>387142947
>the polygon review

>score higher than 90

THE REVIEWS WERE PAID OFF AND BIASED

>Score lower than 90

IT'S SHIT WORST GAME OF THE CENTURY AHAHAHAHA


Why does /v/ do this?

>>387146073
adventure 3 was already made in 2006

Will the sales of this game help fund Dreamcast 2?

>>387146153
retards that honestly try to spout "06 is just like adventure guise they're all bad" should go explode

>>387146128
Uh, where are you seeing it on this thread?
We're PRAISING the score now

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What time does Switch Eshop update bois?

>>387142947
But it is.

Holy shit, Jim actually gave the game a 9.5.

>>387146237
It appears Sonic Mania becomes available at midnight in each timezone.

>>387146237
9PM

>>387146286
So sonic mania is as good as Fallout 4? Damn...

>>387146153
and sonic mania is sonic 5

>>387142947
Are sonic fag really so desperate as to eat up a literal rehash?

>>387143383
>it's the best, guys I swear it

I hate these reviews and the fact they get paid for it.

>>387146390
yea

>>387146230
Sonic 06 was adventure 3, just a broken and unfinished one

>>387146397
You'd understand if your favorite franchise was left to rot for 18 years.

>>387144986
As a non-native english speaker, what's the difference between mediocre and average?

>>387146481
Average = Middle of the slope
Mediocre = Throw it on the trash.

>>387146390
>Sonic the portable dimps fan fiction is sonic 4

lol

>>387146481

There isn't a literal difference. Mediocre has a somewhat more negative connotation ( implied meaning ) than average, but the literal definitions are more or less the same.

>>387142947
Anon, keep in mind that most modern Sonic games get 50-60's on average, if not lower with a few exceptions like Generations.

Sonic Mania getting 86 is like a fucking miracle after seeing what Sonic '06, Sonic the Hedgehog GBA, and Sonic Boom did to the franchise.

>>387146582
Webster defines mediocre as "low quality."

>>387146481
Mediocre and average are pretty much the same score, but mediocre carries more disappointment or dislike with it. Average is a more neutral way of giving something a 5/10, mediocre is a negative, disappointed way of giving a 5/10.

>86
So it's LITERALLY THE BEST SONIC GAME IN YEARS

Not even Generation was this high. That was 78, I think.

>>387144591
I'm affraid of this happening.
Sega should swallow their pride and leave the Mania devs to take care of the franchise.
At least let them work on 2D Sonic games.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8Tka60EWWU

>put out a Launch Trailer
>it's one day before the actual launch
>MASSIVE SPOILERS in the video

WTF SEGA

>>387146686

me·di·o·cre
ˌmēdēˈōkər/Submit
adjective
adjective: mediocre
of only moderate quality; not very good.
"a mediocre actor"
synonyms: ordinary, average, middling, middle-of-the-road, uninspired, undistinguished, indifferent, unexceptional, unexciting, unremarkable, run-of-the-mill, pedestrian, prosaic, lackluster, forgettable, amateur, amateurish;

It is just a more cutting word for " meh, it's average "

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HOLY SHIT

THE FIRST GOOD SONIC GAME IN 23 YEARS

Remember guys, this is only the FIRST installment of Mania. Sequels on average do better than the first.

Get ready for Sonic Mania 2 with more new stages than old ones!

>>387144860
This,it's pretty sad.
I can't imagine how fans of the original games must feel like considering that the chances of getting a non online Phantasy Star game is probably impossible now.

>>387146092
>reviewer complains about dying to bosses and running out of lives
>reviewer complains about continues causing you to lose progress "for no reason at all"
THERE IS A REASON YOU LOST THAT PROGRESS IT'S CALLED YOU FUCKING SUCK AT THE GAME AND NEED TO GIT GUD REEEEEEEEEE

>>387146836
the plan was obviously to use the opening animation

>>387146923
Not going to happen. See: >>387144849

>>387146923
There will be no sequel, the game flopped, SEGA fucked up.

>>387147070
Proofs?

>>387146938
Hell, I never got the chance to play the original in its hayday, but tried it out a couple years ago. I could definitely feel the charm. Even after going out my way to get PSO2 running, it wasn't the same

>jim keeps fucking referring to green hill as emerald hill throughout his review

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>>387142947
Seems good to me. It was OK when Crash had an 80 but now an 86 is trash? Well fuck me then. Can't wait to play tomorrow, it's been a boring month for games so far.

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>>387146912
>in 23 years
People hate on Generations for Classic Sonic's physics but other than that, it was still a good game.

>Game is more remixed levels than new content
>Still manages over 85%

If anything that means it's exceptional. The remix zones were a huge mistake.

>ign "Sonic was always bad" loves it

>>387146836
If you were afraid of spoilers you wouldn't watch the trailer.

>going to download it off the eShop at midnight and play it in bed in handheld mode
It'll be just like playing Sonic 2 on my sister's Game Gear when I was a wee lad. Comfy times ahead.

>>387146575
Not him but he's right. You don't get to say Mania is Sonic 4 while lambasting adventurefags for not calling 06 adventure 3. To do so would make you a hypocrite.

>>387147014
They should have been ashamed since 06

86 means it was okay, truly good games get a 95 or higher

>>387147070
What? Do you have evidence of that, cause I'm pretty sure this is the most hyped Sonic game in years.

>>387147070
>crying "it's a flop xDDDD" before the game has even fucking released
/v/ is and always will be the most retard-filled board on this site.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anr3dJPHgGc

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instead of buying this failure buy the better game releasing tomorrow on ps4

>>387147417
Everyone who's wanted to play this shit has already played it 2 years ago.

>>387147281

/pol/ /co/ and /r9k/ say hello, not to mention even more niche boards for literal subhumans /mlp/ /vp/ etc etc

>>387147181
>remix zones were a mistake
everyone who wasn't sucking mania's cock from the beginning kept saying this. mania is a good 7.75 to 8.5 game. Imagine the scores if every level was completely original

>>387146049
>>387146092
>>387146992
>by Arthur Gies,
>the same fucker who played Doom like a fucking retard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yYp8ZeQ-I8

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PS4 or Switch??

>>387144343
Why dos forces look worse than generations?

>>387147417
even my dog already played this game

>>387146049
Was it to spite Robinson?
He was undoubtedly going to give it a 10/10.

>>387147550
Same reason why Generations looked worse than Unleashed, I guess.

When's the PC version out again?

>>387147417
Everyone's played that shit already. Not to mention it's even worse than Sonic

>>387144481
the game is in a borderline unplayable state and in desperate need of a patch, but it's been so long since the game released it's probably not gonna happen

>>387147512
>likes/dislikes and comments dissabled
wew lad didnt expect less from polygon

There are still 5 reviews in progress that may move the score up or down.

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The only review that will matter

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>>387142947


Only a 86% and even with the 20% Sega bonus? LOL

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>>387147417
Yeah, you're right. Undertale was a failure.

>>387147639
http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/undertale
>>387147743
dont give this dude attencion

>>387147538
I decided on Switch so I can play on TV and handheld. Will pick up the PC version when it is on sale during the Christmas Steam Sale.

>>387147743
Was about to post the same thing. I can't wait for his take on it, Dunk is the only reviewer I trust. Even when he gets a free early copy of a game, he's not afraid to shit on it, like when he shat on Brothers so hard that Microsoft made him take the video down and refused to pay him for it.

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looks like lowest review is the clickbait turds slant magazine again.

they rated this and BOTW a 3/5. some games that are better than BOTW according to slant magazine: No Man's Sky, Year Walk (iOS), Tales from Borderlands, Bioshock Infinite, Batman: Telltale Series and Elder Scrolls Online

more games that are WORSE than all of the above: Gravity Rush 2, Prey, ABZU, Just Cause 3

they should be removed from consideration on review aggregator sites.

>>387142947
I'm wondering when /v/ will say that a game getting a score of 99 or lower is considered worse than Bubsy 3D.

>>387147661
after playing enough to unlock Coco in all 3 games, I could't find anything that rendered it unplayable.
the only issue I've had so far are the loading times going into each stage

>>387147863
Sounds like a normiebait site that doesn't employ anyone who actually likes games.

>>387147538
I'm gonna get it on Switch for that local multiplayer, seems like fun. Adds some replayability to an otherwise pretty short game.

>>387147661
That's a big exaggeration. The game is more than playable if you get used to the physics and don't REEE-quit an hour in.

>>387147926
>pretty short
Polygon review said 2 dozen bosses which leads me to believe the game's actually pretty chunky.

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>>387147417
Everyone and their mother has played this already.

>>387143650
I always wonder why is Metal Sonic there isntead of Shadow or I dunno, as much I love Metal Sonic and prefer it over Shadow Shadow has been more popular lately, way more

>>387147162
Generations wasn't good, it was a mediocre game surrounded by a sea of shitty ones and some people were desperate enough to latch onto it for fear of finally drowning.

Same can be said of Colors when people try to claim that was a good Sonic game too.

>>387144393
>Game has fucked up hitboxes that affect landing and where it's safe to jump off as well as heavier platforming
The Crash remake is fucked to hell you shiteater

>>387147504
While not super exciting, I think having the remixes really drives the point home that this is the true successor to the Sonic franchise. Hopefully he gets more freedom in the future.

>Sonic Forces gets a better metacritic score than Mania

How do you react?

>>387148010
>trusting polygon to count past their fingers

>>387146049
Polygon gave em a 7, not a 6

There's one site worse than them.

>>387147867
Games get 9 or 10 like it's candy

>>387148010
>24 bosses
Jeez, I didn't realize it would have that many. To be honest I'm not really that in touch with the Sonic series, but I know they're usually on the shorter side. If what they said is true though, I'm excited to see all the bosses.

when can I expect it on the eshop? east coast fag here

I JUST REMEMBERED I HAVE MONEY IN AN AUSTRALIAN BANK ACCOUNT FROM WHEN I DID EXCHANGE

IM IN LADS IVE GOT IT

>>387148080
I love the history revisionism in the Sonic community. You know the critical reception for Generations was very similar to the one Mania is getting now right?

>>387147661
the shitposting telephone game has met its end, with the latest popular game being called literally Hitler and compared to Bubsy 3D
Crash is old news now, time to build the same narrative for Sonic Mania

>>387148010
I played for 45 minutes and reached the 2nd part of Zone 3. Seems to be heftier than Sonic 1, 2, CD and 3+K.

>>387148132
The only way it could happen is if they give the Switch version special Pikachu addon parts for the CaC so I can play through the game as Sonichu.

>>387144343
I feel like they're using Sonic Lost World engine to make Sonic Forces

>>387148010
That's counting Act1 bosses.

There's 12 zones, so 12 Act1 bosses, 12 Act2 bosses, and the finale.

Better enjoy it while it lasts, Forces is probably gonna be in the range of mediocre to dogshit. I'd love to be proven wrong, but that's what it looks like.

>>387144275
Ahahahahahaha

>>387148223
>Sonic Generations was good except for all the times you played as modern Sonic

Half the game was bad and the other half was a rehash of classic Sonic levels but rendered in 3D.

>>387148280
They are. The cutscenes even look like the same stiff shit somehow.

>>387148280
That doesn't make any sense, Lost World was completely different from Generations, with all the parkour stuff and removal of boost. If anything, they're probably using an updated Generations engine.

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>>387144343
>BOOST PAD RIGHT BEFORE THE LOOP

>>387144343
Jeez, Forces is gonna be garbage isn't it?

86 seems quite respectable for literally a Sonic 2/3 romhack

>>387148346
>modern Sonic was bad
the only faggots whining about it were those who wished Generations was Classic-only, some even whined they wanted somethign like Mania
instead
you can't improve modern Sonic for people who outright hate him with the same autism as CWC

>>387148398
You realize an engine isn't just how a game plays, right?

>>387147897
>>387147960
People who have the patience/autism to deal with the multitude of issues the Crash Trilogy have, I figure are the same people who didn't play Rayman Legends, which is the best controlling, best feeling platformer ever made. I simply cannot deal with how janky and just straight up broken it feels to control Crash after playing so much of Legends.

>>387148346
Modern Sonic's levels were the best of the boost trilogy. And Classic's were pretty good too with mostly solid level design. Like I said, the major problem with the game was Classic's physics. But it was still an overall enjoyable game and you'd have to be jaded as fuck to call it bad. If you want bad, look at Forces which shits on Generations at least decent level design in exchange for flatness and linearity all around.

Daily reminder the Sonic CD is the best Sonic game

That is all

>>387147202
>You don't get to say Mania is Sonic 4 while lambasting adventurefags for not calling 06 adventure 3. To do so would make you a hypocrite.

No because they're totally different projects

Sonic the portable was a portable game that was renamed sonic 4 and shifted platforms for marketing reasons. The gameplay is nothing like the classic games.

Meanwhile Sonic 06 actually tried to be Adventure 3 from the start and the only reason you don't want it to be adventure 3 is because it was so horribly broken and unfinished. Meanwhile Sonic the portable was completed and at no point was ever going to resemble the classic games and be a true sequel.

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>the sonic twitter is shilling undertale
https://twitter.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/897134077525884928

>>387148497
I just looked it up, and I was sort of right and wrong. Generations and Lost World both run on Hedgehog Engine, Forces runs on Hedgehog Engine 2.

>>387148502
You're probably just bad lol

>>387143848
Forces looks competent, and is very clearly edgy just to mock itself. At least, it looks like it to me

>>387142947
It's just another platformer spinoff title that banks off the "dude retro lmao" fad. That's an excellent score considering what it is. Were you expecting anything higher?

>>387148591
oh god
the shit fanbase event horizon

>>387148280
How was Lost World anyways? I like the concept of rotating environments.

>>387148502
Rayman is a floaty mess, the gameplay is compleyely different and by no means should be used for any other game.
your praise over it boils down to "i liked it therefore its better"

>>387148598
The hedgehog engine only really handles lighting.

Anon may be right in that whatever tools and templates they used for LW are being reused for Forces.

>>387148698
"dude retro lmao" usually get shit on by reviewers and get 70% reviews

Can we just kill Sonygros like OP already?
Their review meme is just embarrassing now.

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Quickly, google %your_name% the Hedgehog and post results.

>>387148769
Shit

>>387143848
>Forces always looked like it was going to turn around any good will about the franchise as a whole that Mania dug up.
Why? It looks like it has the gameplay of Generations, which a lot of people enjoyed. Or are you only saying this because you're one of those massive autistic faggots that care about story/characters in video games, worst of all fucking Sonic?

>>387148650
nah I beat the first boulder chase level without dying which I was actually kind of impressed with myself for doing, and got all the gems on the first worlds of Crash 2 and 3, so I'm competent enough at the game. I just dont FEEL like putting up with the constant stream of bullshit, both lingering from the old games and now tacked on by the fucking shitty engine they used.

Had they done away with the lives system I probably would have a lot more patience for the game. I either have 5 tries to beat a level or I have to play an easy level over and over again to grind for lives. That's the main thing that's prevented me from playing the game any more

>>387145607
Good, anyone who is already here is an idiot, maybe new blood won't shit everything up

>>387148821
http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-one/sonic-mania
>he buys the worst version

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>>387148778
>i liked it therefore its better

...yea? isn't that how it works lol

>>387148769
It was.....questionable. Not horrible but very experimental and weird. Things like Sonic having a run button and the parkour mechanic kinda threw me off at first. There's a lack of focus throughout the entire game but it's not terrible so if you can find it for like $15 go for it.

PSA: Using the fireshield on iceblocks in press garden act 2 crashes the game on the switch version

They changed the shitty opening intro music

Were missing stage transitions added back in?

>>387142947
86 is good you nigger
The only review that's even bringing it down is one from some literally who magazine who gave it 60

SomeCallMeJohnny is going to give it a 10 isn't he?

>>387143650
I'm unironically excited for this game.

>>387148591
Probably just because Toby made a funny post about being more excited for Mania's release than Undertale PS4's release.

this is gonna be my first Sonic game

what am I in for?

>>387148502
>Rayman Legends, which is the best controlling, best feeling platformer ever made.
No it isn't. Rayman actually controls like shit. He has way too much momentum when he stops running and slides all over the place, except for when you attack in mid-air, which all of a sudden stops any forward momentum. His jumps are floaty as fuck too. Feels like shit. And that's coming from someone that loves the games, but that's literally the worst thing about the game.

>>387149196

He doesn't give review scores.

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>>387148870

>>387149261
People will tell you "hurr the entire game is supposed to be about going fast" but it's really more of a neat little physics based platformer with a ton of different ways to get through each level (as in completely different routes). 3 playable characters too.

>>387143650
Heck yes

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>>387148591

>>387149169
It crashes, really?

>>387142947
Torrent when?

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>worse score than a fucking DLC for a fucking racing spin off game
Top kek, can't make this shit up. Sega is finished.

can I change my timezone and unlock mania early on switch?

>>387149196
He's going to masturbate on-camera in his review.

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>>387142947
N-Nooooo... NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

>>387147538
Switch for portability

Can we compare and contrast the PS4 and Switch versions?
If I buy it on Switch i'll be playing it with this bluetooth snesss controller, but I'd like to go over the minutae with yall to make sure we're all getting the version we'd like. Obviously PC is to be the best version but lets just omit that for now and focus on the consoles.

PS4
>Trophies
>Friends can see how cool I am
>If online play ever does come out this will have the biggest playerbase automatically assuming you have PS+
>Can easily stream the game and screenshot
>DS4's D-Pad is acceptable but not ideal

Switch
>portable
>seems more "at home" on Switch
>2p will be more accessible due to JoyCon design
>Will have to pay for Nintendo's online should online play gets meme'd into existance assuming you won't buy nintendo's online
>Potentially smaller playerbase should the online meme become a dream
>JoyCon d-pad is worse than DS4
>Better bluetooth support for controllers like pic related

Not gonna waste my time with xbone

>>387149324
Oh you're right, I was binge watching his reviews and he's still giving scores where I am, but I bet the sentiment will be pretty much the same.

>>387149502
Yes.

>>387149434
Why are you surprised?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWSrzAE2rcY

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>>387149545
forgot pic

>>387143696

>BOTW

>>387148769
>http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-one/sonic-mania
It's an alright platformer but it's just that it didn't adhere to the usual Sonic conventions like physics based gameplay or boosting.

>>387142947

>Last 2 Sonic games to be considered good was colors and generations

>Their meta's were in the 70's

>an 86 is bad

>>387149301
>No it isn't

yes it is

>>387149545
Switch for portability, honestly.

GUYS, IF YOU CHANGE YOUR XBOX TIME & DATE IT GETS UNLOCKED!

I'm already on Press Garden Zone

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>>387143739
>delusional anti-modern sonic fags
You're joking, right? 2D Sonic has always been better than modern Sonic.

>>387149790
post your xboxdvr and prove it faggot

>>387149545
I don't think the Sonic Mania install base will be much smaller on the Switch, it's gonna sell well on it

>>387145803
https://youtu.be/lVCAEzSQXgU

>>387149545
>>JoyCon d-pad is worse than DS4
Eh, the joycon d-pad is about the same tier if you're playing a platformer. DS4's is only really superior if you're playing a fighter.

>>387149747
Nah.

>>387143584
Good gameplay and an actual competent dev team is now nostalgia. fucking neo/v/

>>387143668
He has a raging hate boner for platformers and sonic especiallyand it's the only way he can see his dick without looking into a mirror

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>>387149867
you're joking right

>>387149545
Mania doesn't have Platinum or Gold trophies

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>>387149870
yes

https://archiveofourown.org/works/11798901

https://archiveofourown.org/works/11778270

>>387150107
My post says the contrary. So no.

>>387142947
The IGN reviewer is a feminist writer for Vice.com

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>>387150086
>Mania doesn't have Platinum or Gold trophies

>>387150270
lets just disagree to agree

also the Crash remake is fucking shit fuck

>>387150079
Are you?
Because that's perfectly acceptable, if not the best, for a platformer like Sonic.

>>387149545
>Talks about Playerbase
>Talks about online

There's an online component to this game?

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>>387150079
What about the other dpad?

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>/v/ before 2010 never cared about review scores
>now /v/ will always inflate their dick to show the newest review scores and why a franchise or company is dead and will repeat the lowest score even if it's something as low as a fucking 8

>>387150291
that was a really shitty voiceover for the review, fucking vocal fry was the flag for feminist so thanks for the confirmation

11 more hours left for east coast

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>>387150079
>I've never used a joycon!

>>387142947
I told you all Jim Sterling would suck Mania's dick and you didn't believe me

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>>387149837
here ya go

>>387150079
It's literally a dpad made into multiple buttons instead of one big thing. This is honestly better with a lot of games that require precision inputs.

>>387143025
2 off from being a perfect score

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>>387150457
>perfectly acceptable, if not the best, for a platformer

>>387150825
Deny it all you want but it's true.

>>387147835
I like Dunkey, but he was 100% in the wrong in the whole Brothers deal. He had a contractual obligation to shill the game, and he didn't.

>>387147550
Art style.
Forces has more detail than Generations, but doesn't look as fun.

>>387143650
>donut steels
Killed my interest. Forces is obviously made exclusively for the autists.

>>387147863
TftB was better than BotW tho.

A sonic game is higher than 30

This is an accomplishment no matter how you cut it

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>>387142947
An 86 ain't bad. The fuck are you talking about?

>>387150713
It's harder on the thumb.

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>>387150636
Guess again faggot

>muh reviews
wow it's nothing

>>387150575
>8.8

From the Polygon review

>Like any other platformer, Sonic Mania gives you a pool of lives when you start a game, and you gain more through collecting 100 rings or finding them scattered throughout levels. As long as you have more lives, you'll resume at the last checkpoint you dinged when you die, but if you run out, you have to restart the stage you're on from the beginning.

>This is marginally better than the original game, which had no continues officially apart from cheat codes.

>Sonic 1-3
>No continues

Stupid

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>>387142947

>86
>bad

I hate Triple A gaming and the unrealistic expectations it sets by paying for their 90+ reviews.

>>387146992
Did the leaker make this review?

>>387151164
>polygon continues to be fucking retarded
woah

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He's right

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It's too difficult.

Please tell me Level Select and Debug Mode are in the game
>Please tell me Level Select and Debug Mode are in the game
Please tell me Level Select and Debug Mode are in the game
>Please tell me Level Select and Debug Mode are in the game
Please tell me Level Select and Debug Mode are in the game
>Please tell me Level Select and Debug Mode are in the game
Please tell me Level Select and Debug Mode are in the game
>Please tell me Level Select and Debug Mode are in the game

>>387151328
>>387151164

So what I'm learning from this is the game has infinite continues?

I'd assume so if this chucklefuck beat it

>>387151383
They are, and use some special code in the sound test

>>387151328
How is a Sonic game difficult when all you need to brute-force a boss is to maintain one single ring and not be near the edge of the screen where you can potentially lose said ring?

>>387151289
If you're waiting for oxygen bubbles you're a fucking idiot, just keep going forward because they spawn like candy anyway.

>>387150713
It's better for menus, that's it.

You need to be able to roll your thumb around, 4 individual buttons don't let your roll your thumb. Even sony's dpad only looks like 4 buttons but is actually one and they're beveled to allow your thumb to roll around.

I can't believe I'm having to explain this shit in a thread for RETRO sonic fans but then again 1999 children can post now

>>387151164
The fact that Arthur wasn't fired is a crime against humanity.

>>387151164
What the fuck

How is starting from the level you're on with a save feature marginally better than starting the entire game over and playing in one sitting? Did he want to start from acts or checkpoints? No game like this does this today, not even the most casual modern equivalents.

This goes beyond not knowing that chaos emeralds were continues in the original, he's straight up lying.

>>387151454
Also if I'm not mistaken rings don't clip into the level like the older titles. They bounce off walls and stay relatively attainable

>>387151328
>five to six minutes
>a hell of a lot of progress

it's ok polygon, we know you hate playing games

>>387151439
It has a save system like 3K and the other Taxman ports.

Lives allow you to restart from checkpoints, continues allow you to start from your current Act, and Game Overs make you restart the whole Zone. It's a forgiving system, but lives and continues still matter.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0vvLWTYutc

I can't tell if this guy joking or not but he did get the comment section arguing.

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>>387151251
I consider the 80s range to be a good indicator of not getting paid off and not being a bad game. It's
really good, even with a few problems, in this case the limits on how secrets are used.

>>387142947
86 is the highest score a Sonic game has gotten since Sonic Advance on GBA back in 2002.

>>387151741
Oh well it'll probably be just as easy if not easier than 1-3.

The only sonic game I've had trouble beating in one sitting is 1 because no spin dash makes some enemies a pain and the labyrinth zone boss is my weakness

>>387151526
>It's better for menus, that's it.
And platformers, and puzzles and just about any other game that isn't a fighter.
You have played any of these games before right? Because you can't roll your thumb around the dpad for these genres otherwise you're going to get other unintentional inputs.

Also you can scream "but retro games" all you like but that was one of the big problems with the megadrive D-pads but fortunately they were big enough that you didn't have to roll your thumb over it and could just glide over the right parts which is something that works better with the Joycons because they're separate buttons.

>>387151289
Oxygen bubbles are a difficulty setting. if you need them, you're playing on easy mode

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>>387151953
Holy shit, really? That's interesting considering that I unofficially call SAdv1 Sonic 4.

>>387147070
it's not even out yet

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>this and starcraft remastered coming out at the same time
>two of my favourite franchises
>can't afford to get either

>>387151980
It seems a fair bit more difficult than 3K.
Not 1 because, like you said, 1 has no cheesing abilities and DEMANDS that you master rolling and momentum.

>>387151983
Sonic doesn't even need precise movement inputs. I've playing all the genesis games on gamecube for the past month with an analog stick. Got the best ending is each one

>>387148280
I think it was confirmed that Forces is running in a new version of the Generations engine.

>>387152094

>can't afford a sum that is less than buying a new game

Maybe not get either anon. You sound like you need that money

>>387151328
>classic sonic
>no continues
I guess I can't expect these dipshits to get to a special stage let alone get enough coins for a continue

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>>387145090
Because he, unlike you, actually goes in threads about games he likes

>>387151983
>unintentional inputs.
if you require that level of precision you can just lift up your finger inbetween inputs and tap them in. but for platformers being able to roll your finger around is still a good thing so you don't murder your fucking thumbs. BTW you can rock your thumb around back and forth for example easily for precision with an actual dpad unless you're a fucking moron which it sounds like. its like your talking from a hypothetical standpoint and not experience at all

>>387151953
Well, mainline Sonic game
Sonic CD 2011 and Sonic and SEGA All-Stars Racing also scored in the Sonic Advance range

>>387152138
>Sonic doesn't even need precise movement inputs.
You know, how I can tell you rushed through the game?

>>387151328
>''There’s a windup to just about everything, from movement to jumping.''
Fucking mass, how does it work?

Which zone has the best music for mania? My vote goes to metallic madness.

>>387152060
Yes. Sonic Advance got a 87 back in 2002, Sonic Advance 2 in 2003 got a 83, every other game since then has gotten somewhere between a 50-79 score.

>>387152138
The fuck are you talking about? There's a reason why most people play the mobile ports with a controller because Sonic absolutely needs that especially in Sonic 2 on the Death Egg.

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>>387152437
Think what you want man

>>387152480
I love Metallic Madness's themes but I've still got Mirage Saloon Act 2 stuck in my head

>>387152094
If you can't afford to spend 20,- you probably have bigger problems than not playing those games..

>>387152094
>can't afford $15 for SCR
Fucking really? I'm more surprised Blizzard didn't try to milk $40 out of it.

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>>387152535
Well, every NEW Sonic game, at least.

>>387152535
>according to metacritic, Sonic Adventure 2 and Sonic Advance 2 are leaps and bounds better than the likes of Colors and Generations
No other franchise has metascores this fucked. You can tell Shadow the Hedgehog and 06 soured public opinion of the franchise in general to the point it's become customary not to be nearly as generous as reviewers were before them. Mania seems to be the one exception so far.

>>387152548
I think most people play the mobile game with a controller because touch screen controls are that shit.

All I'm saying is Sonic doesn't require frame perfect inputs. It's a simple game

>>387152548
I beat it with touch controls.
It was my first time playing 2. It was piss easy until Wing Fortress, and I assume Metropolis was only bearable because of widescreen given all the bitching I always heard about it.

I'll admit that getting the Chaos Emeralds was obscenely hard, though.

Either way, the Sonic games are extremely forgiving.

>>387152710
>iOS version
360 has an 82.

>>387148028
shadows more anti-hero than villian these days. he'd only be there if it was gonna swap sides last minute or there was something in it for him

Slant reviewer is unhappy about hydrocity inclusion.
Truly the plebbest of the plebs.

>>387152736
>All I'm saying is Sonic doesn't require frame perfect inputs
No one is talking about frame perfect inputs you retard but Sonic as a game is improved by leaps and bounds if it isn't restricted to a d-pad that's just one big button.

>>387151447
For real? You know how they're unlocked?

>>387151328
So you could say....Mania is the Dark Souls of speed platformers?

>>387152902
but still playable even if your d-pad is shit

2D sonic games are shit, 3D is where its at

>>387152594
Yeah but were you PRECISE about it? Sonic is a game where intense thought needs to go into each button press and you need your controller to be able to commit as well.

What are the benefits of the ps4 version? The pc one will have mod support right?

>>387142947
Welcome to Metacritic. Where Skyrim, one of gaming's largest monuments to compromise holds a score of 94. Oblivion also has a 94, and Oblivion was better in almost every single way aside from graphics and budget. I've played games that have scored in the upper 90's that I hated, and games that scored in the lower 70's that I loved.

>>387145146
>Without standards

I miss not having standards in vidya. You'd work with what you had and find love in the shitty games.

I have fond memories of an old Gamecube Spiderman movie game