Which ASSFAGGOTS has the best character design? HARD MODE:For

>>387142550
Unironically LOL

It has the most variety

>>387143007
Not really.

Dota tries to keep a specific epic medieval theme whilst LoL just does anything they feel like doing.

No idea about third entry.

>>387143007
>being a tasteless weeb

>>387142550
Dota by far, shame some cosmetics sort of ruin it.

Hon had great concepts though, their reimagining of ports were great (Pestilence, Pharaoh, Magebane, etc)

>>387143154
Why would you disagree with him only to then reword exactly what he said. Yeah, they do whatever they want, that's why it has more variety.

>>387143453
I'm not disagreeing that they do whatever,but that he thinks LoL has better character designs.

>glowing eyes evil monster vs sexualized female humanoid

Both dota and lol have horrible character designs

they all look the same, without in-game screenshots i can't tell from which game they are
generic shit desu senpai

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I dislike anime but League really does have some very good designs.
their art team did a cohesion pass and are unifying and solidifying their artsyle as well

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>>387142550
LoL's art team is really fucking good.

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their splash art team is undeniably skilled at the very least

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>>387143995

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Unironically Smite, ignoring Scylla because every moba needs a token evil loli.
t. faggot who likes gods and old religion

>>387143705
what do you think is a good character design then?

>dark souls knight or tacticool calladooty man

>>387144251
I feel like their heros are a little too cluttered up with details, they need to push their shape language more

>>387144251
>because every moba needs a token evil loli.
Dota doesnt have it
Pugna is a guy

>>387144251
this

LOL designs are garbage and some are just a direct rip-off of existing material (Cho'gath/Violator).

Dota and Smite have good designs. Though that new Dota furry armadillo musketeer shit is questionable.

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>>387144251
I wish Scylla looked more like her card art. She doesn't look enough like a monster girl in-game.

>>387142550
Dota, but it is completely ruined by the cosmetics. It won't turn into TF2 they said

warcraft III dota

>>387144864
>LOL designs are garbage and some are just a direct rip-off of existing material (Cho'gath/Violator

post a (modern) design which you do not like
i'm just curious

the only design which i actively disliked recently is rakan/xayah and taliyah

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HotS
muh dick

>>387145223
This, but also because their characters have character.

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>>387145414
There's some great hits

>>387145414
i feel like thats cheating a bit since all their characters are from other games, right?
like saying "which nintendo game has the best characters"
" super smash brothers"

>>387144864
>Dota and Smite have good designs
How fucking retarded are you to not realize that Dota has 0 design at all because all of the heros were just based on WC3 character models from the original dota allstars ? Fuck off faggot and kys

Why doesn't dota have any fuckable heroes?

There's nothing even close to Yordles

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>>387143154
>epic medieval theme

Really though? I'd say the strength of Dota's design is that it does some really weird shit instead of just sticking to traditional medieval fantasy.

>>387143860
That one Riot stole from some independent artist.

>>387145654
Not the best example, since Nintendo has no interesting characters
That said HotS characters are a bit more refined than their versions in other games

>>387145665
dont turn this thread into a complete clusterfuck please
thank you

>>387145223
HotS characters aren't really moba character though. That's like calling Link/Mario/ect fighting game characters because of Smash

>>387145880
debunked.
concept art shows that there was a large ideation process before thye settled on that design, multiple other artists arrived at that concept of duality as well.

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Pestilence was dope

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What I like about dota designs is that they don't try to do fanservice. They're not too edgy (well, apart from maybe Terrorblade), they're not fetish bait, or furbait, or anything really.

The other thing is the way they look often reflects what their abilities are. Timbersaw does what you would expect him too since he's a giant sawblade. Earthshaker is a big koala with a totem, so it makes sense that he smacks it around.

>>387142550
Dota but cosmetics ruin the well designed characters

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i can tell you that its not Paladins or Smite.
I think Paragon has some great looking characters (despite the game being complete garbage)
also special shoutouts to my boy Battlerite/Bloodline Champions
>>387146064
i remember picking Puppet Master and winning every game, that dude was so rediculously broken.
but in all reality, the dota 2 counterparts look better

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>>387143941
Is there an ADC more fun than Jhin?

>>387146219
Kongor > Roshan in every single aspect

>>387146219
Pimp Slayer shits on Lion also

>>387146329
Why does LoL overdesign every character?

>>387144251
I miss /smiteg/

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>>387146031
Rooooight

>>387146520
That's apart of the character, in this case. He's super theatrical.

LoL. Cause homolust. I don't even play the game.

i hate league of legends but i love their design and art team

>>387146661
Dota is incredibly homo though

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>>387146576
yeah, rooiiight.
shes a rabbit supposed to represent the moon and the wolf is the sky.

LoL's lamb and wolf represents the duality of life and death. Duality portrayed as black and white isnt an unusual thing at all. Reminder that Germany and Aerica both invented the Teddy Bear withing a month of each other with no communication whatsoever.

I've drawn up designs that look very similar to characters ive seen elsewhere many times without any prior knowledge.

Pic related, You could easily think that Shotgun Shelly is based on McCree from Overwatch. I was actually thinking of the movie A Fistful of Dollars, which happens to be what Blizzard based McCree on.
This happens more often than you would think in the art world

>>387146520
weebshit tends to be overdesigned.

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>>387146146
their philosophy of design is exactly that
the hero looks like his personality, the design is based on their gameplay and abilities

looks at this trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LV1ZV_DG3kI
this is the new pangolin~ish hero announced, you bet your sweet as ins going to be a meele fighter of some sort and will have some sort of tricky mechanic to get around

Is not an specific animal either, it's like a cat with a pangolin, its unique

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>>387146520
>>387146932
They relatively underdesign their champs actually compared to games like Smite.

>>387143453

The point is that the quality of lols designs are as amateur as their consistency. Liking lols hero designs is to have objectively poor taste

>>387143941

Lols art team isnt very good, its flashy but the anatomical details and angle of view are always wonky

>>387147304
>if you like what i dont like you have objectively bad taste

you're being ridiculous. LoL designs are by no means amateur. Post what you think a good design is

>>387147089
Rammus was a launch character, compare it to the newer ones and you can see the shift from cartoony stuff to overdesigned weaboo garbage.

>>387147523
I really hate doing this because im not trying to be LoL defence force here but they do this intentionally and have been questioned about it before. They understand the rules, they then break them to get the desired effect

>>387145923

>nintendo has no interesting characters

Sweet christ what has this place come to

>>387143154
You literally just proved OPs point

Also why do dota fags have to bring up their fucking game every fucking time. Nobody fucking cares

It's like going into a battlefield thread and talking about call of duty

>>387147848
Ever play Overwatch?
that's half of this boards population now

>>387146064

The one thing Heroes of Newerth obliterates both Dota and LoL in is the hero design. Their designs were so cool. Forsaken Archer, Amun Ra, Puppet Master, Zephyr in particular is really unique. It's a shame the game never really caught on. It's my preferred moba.

>>387146146

Thats exatly what it is because valve is a professional company full of industry veterans many who came from professional television/cinematic career background.

>>387147915
Man, you have no justification for this in a WHICH ASSFAGGOTS HAS THE BEST CHARACTER DESIGN THREAD.

READ

>>387146661

Dota has the better homolust heroes like half of them are 80% naked

>>387148030
Your mom

>>387147057

I dont like the direction dota is going in, they're pandering too hard to china

>>387147915
>Thread about ASSFAGGOTS
>"why do dota fags have to bring up their game"
how many layers of brain damage are you on

>>387144251
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArqD1S5b6sg&feature=youtu.be

>>387147618
rakan is a guy with a cape
taliyah is a chick in a robe

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>>387146219
this.
Epic wasting their potential trying to catch e-sports meme.

I was really trying to like paragon, character designs are top tier, and card system is kinda unique to others ASSFAGGOTS, its just, guess people who making it aren't competent enough to make a good moba.

>>387147958

I think the sound design is prob the best par of HoN really, all the sound effects and voices and announcers and shit are just so much better than the alternatives

Like consider how GOOD it feels to Ult someone as Witch Slayer compared to Fingering someone as Lion

>>387148976
>new update comes out
>makes game faster and completly changes card system
>it's even more confusing
yea i wish Paragon was fun to play.

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Not even a contest

>>387148290
redpill me on that matter
how is that happening
other than the chinese year events

>>387148976
That card system is fucking baffling. I understand items in dota, but the cards in paragon completely confused me. That combined with the awful UI that doesn't give information effectively.

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Which one looks better?

>>387142550
Is " MOBA " really converted into that

>Test

If it is then this place really has become a pile of shit

>>387150165
need to breed

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Who looks better?

>>387150196
No

It's "aeons of strife style fortress action game going on two sides"

>>387150629
Mr give me all the farm

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Which spider-lady is sexier?

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>>387144251
My nigga
best god right here plus best voice

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>>387150886

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Which mechanical man of positioning disruption is best?

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Does Riot still refuse to make ''gross'' looking characters because they think people wont like them?

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>>387150967
Mercury is my Boy
Bellona and Amaterasu are best girls
i only play arena, and only for a week every 2 or 3 months.

>>387151272
i just got back into smite after they raised the level cap to 150 and those new winner chest came out.
but god damn they chew through my favor and it makes it worse since i only play assault

>>387147089
Smite isn't making up random shit though , they already have characters with tons of more and descriptions about them to work with. Dota and LoL have to create stuff out of tropes and whatever.

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>>387151197
There are so many kids playing. The last thing they need is nightmare fuel.

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>>387151197
It's actually because of international issues
They reworked Karthus (undead lich guys) to have dead skin stretched over his face instead of a raw skull because asia has an issue with showing skeletons in their games.

>>387145524
Alarak announcer when? Hearing trashtalking everything would be so much fun.

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Ok, these guys are entirely the same

>>387145654
I unironically want a smash bros moba

>>387143007
Nuke/CC
Gap Closer
A passive, or a passive with an activation.
Ultimate.

Also they need to run flash

Name that Champion

>>387149551
t.tasteless weeb

>>387151487
>no Alarak
>no chen
>Lili and Brightwing and Murky meme announcers instead
this fucking game.

>>387150629
Why is Vulcan not in there?

>>387151459
>>387151197
Same reason Graves didn't have a cigar until recently.

>>387151390
What point are you even making here?
You're telling me that Smite has no artistic license and designs their characters to be as historically accurate as possible? That's just silly.

>>387151612
At least Abathur is god tier.

>>387150165
Real dragon Vs pokemon

>>387150886
Arachne, like all Smite female characters, has massive tits. Reminds me of Quellag. Smite by a longshot

smite got a gay furry brony to do one of their announcer packs

>>387151459
Shit excuse. Dota still has "internationally approved models" and maintains unique design

>>387151519
Probably because they're both based off of the Gyrocopter unit from Warcraft 3

>>387151649
not the same anon but Smite goes for the popular design for the most well known gods like Zeus and Herc but for people like Ah Muzen Cab and such they take whatever liberties they need to.

>>387150886
Broodmother might not be sexy, but she cares about her babbies

>>387150967
Puch looks cool but he's broken as fuck, like most of Smite gods. His fucking 2 or whatever has retarded range, speed, and damage. As well as slow and DoT. It's ridiculous. Just do the corpse rush from a mile away and one shot anyone not a tank

>>387147958
Looking back it was pretty stupid for a MOBA to be pay to play but I guess at the time there was no competition.

>>387150886
>>387151119
These sum things up quite effectively really.

>Dota is a horrible monster who is female because creating spiderlings is her thing
>Other games are a spider and female because tits and a pretty face

I'm not a dota fanboy, I just want my monsters to be monsters.

>>387151197

The Urgot rework looks pretty grotesque, but of all the recent champions, Tahm Kench is the last "gross" looking one and he was released two years ago. He doesn't even look gross but it's about the closest to gross as Riot could get. If you are looking for someone more like Dirge, then Yorick is probably the last gross character and he was released 5 years ago.

It's a shame all the new champion designs end up being anime shit. I would love some monsters and more champions like Bard.

>>387151786
"excuse"
I'm sorry for giving you the correct answer to your question I didnt realize you just wanted to fight with somebody about something.
LoL is rated T and DOTA2 has no esrb rating, smartass

I think LoL has plenty of unique designs.

>>387146146
And ironically terrorblade likes to fuck with timbersaw and somehow has a problem with techies.

>>387146930
That's a really cool design you have there

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>>387151197
Lifestealer is genuinely unsettling.

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Pirate guys?

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still the coolest wackiest dude

>>387151882
well actually he may seem broken but he can be shut down quicker than most mages.
His Corpses can be blocked by any obstacle and get deleted with 2 hits so AP has to be quick, his 3 does DoT but it used to stun anyone who got healed for 4 seconds max.
his Ultimate doesnt even hit everyone for as much as the ghosts collide. Sure he does alot of damage in areas but if anyone comes close and is a hunter/assassin hes dead

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>>387151786
RIP Skeleton King.

I miss my bones

>>387152068
imagine rubick in LoL
can Riot handle the bugs?

>>387152045
There's another thing that I like about dota. Tidehunter and Kunkka are enemies. It's not a big issue or anything, it's just neat that it exists and is reflected in their design.

>>387142550
The anime crossover maps from WC3.

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>>387152040
I want to work for Riot

>>387151649
My point is Smite designs are less imaginative/creative. Not because they are worse, but because they have to work off of actual history/theology/set descriptions or whatever. I mean take Fenrir for example. He's a wild. That's literally it. Also Zeus. Old guy in toga. Not that they aren't designed well, but the designs themselves are less imaginative. Now when it comes to the skins for the gods, that's where the creativity shines. Infinity Wave He Bo is best looking skin in game -- beautiful. Solar Sentinel Ra is cool with a unique twist too, etc.

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>>387152045
I don't know whether I miss old GP or not.

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>>387152068
Who is the superior spellcaster though?

>>387152068
the main thing about him in dota2 is casting stolen spells without the long associated animations on the original hero
in league, this wouldn't make sense, since there aren't any long anmations

>>387151715
W I N R A R
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>>387151593
>thread is about character design
>brings up gameplay

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>>387152257
>Also Zeus. Old guy in toga.

Yeah, well i agree with you.
I think they could push it a bit and make it more Smite, they seem to be where Riot was in terms of art direction about 5 years ago. They need to establish a tone and really push it because it kind of reads like generic korean dick-bait to someone who isnt very into smite

>>387151715
didnt Dota get Rick & MOrty to be an announcer?

>>387151593
aatrox

>>387152435
who?

>>387151947
Contrarian faggot. Anthro monsters have existed in mythology for millenia and you think youre soo much better for wanting monsters to be totally inhuman looking. So suck on a cactus faggot.

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Rock monsters

>>387152232
I love that rivalry. Tide hunter has 6 lines for killing Kunkka specifically, and tons of lines for killing other heroes that all insult Kunkka, and even a generic kill line that insults Kunkka.

>Ha ha ha! Women and children and Kunkka first.

I love that big green watermelon

>>387152232
Tidehunter literally mentions Kunkka in like 80% of his lines, it's kinda a gag.

>>387152292
Rubick technically can do more than Invoker.

>>387152417
Yeah, it's one of the better announcer packs desu.

>>387152232
all those voice lines, this is one of the reason I love dota
https://dota2.gamepedia.com/Tidehunter/Responses
https://dota2.gamepedia.com/Kunkka/Responses

>>387152068
I'm still mad he lost the arcana vote by 0.08%

>>387152467
>tfw quarry to settle

>>387151801
Original anon here, pretty much this. It's like Hercules, Zeus, Thor, Odin, etc have all been designed already countless times already. Smite just takes them and creates them in their unique artsyle. They don't have to come up with completely new designs. As for the gods not often depicted it's usually a hit or miss situation though. They made Chaac look like some normal guy in a mask, but Mayan theology has Chaac often portrayed as reptilian. Ah Puch is also just some guy in a mask. But then you have Cabrakan who looks cool and unique so it's usually a hit or miss.

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>>387152467
>scary looking motherfucker in splash art
>wacky walking rock in game

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Not-samurai swordsmen who can heal and attack without being stopped

>>387152364
Designing characters goes past just cosmetics, includes their playstyles, mechanics, lore, etc.

The more incorporated all those elements are into one package the better job that is done. At least in my own opinion.

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Well, it's hard to say, really. League and Dota have very different design philosophies. Dota is very focused on distinct silhouettes, making each individual character have a unique look to reflect their unique playstyles. It feels like a full fledged western fantasy with goblins and monsters and whatever. Overall I'd say that's superior aesthetic design and creates a stronger visual narrative.

That said, I understand why league does what it does, with these basically sexy men and women in armor. One, it's a lot easier to relate to a human than a monster. League is a lot more casual with a younger, and more female, audience. They want characters they can relate to, and a spider lady is one hell of a lot more personable than Aragog. Same logic behind superheroes and JRPG's, really. Two, Sexy designs sell more eye candy shit to kids, and Koreans, but I wouldn't fault the game for that. The visuals are far less cohesive but I wouldn't fault the game for that. As a work of art, Dota is better, but League simply has more appeal to their demographic, which isn't a bad move.

That said, Smite is the real offender. I studied lots of classical literature in college, and it's always been a passion of mine, and Smite just rapes every myth it touches and makes it bland. For example, their Odin, like, throws spears and makes a spear wall. Now, the mythical Odin had all these cool powers. He had ravens that could see all over the world. He gouged out his eye so he could obtain forbidden knowledge and magic runes. He had a throne upon which nothing was hidden from him. The general idea is that he's omniscient and very wise, but not necessarily all that powerful, especially compared to his enemies and his sons. He wins with foreknowledge and wisdom, not brute strength. I would've liked to see that reflected in the gameplay, but instead we get boring, flanderized, pop culture old spear man. Fuck, even MARVEL did a better job.

>>387152704
yeah he needs a facelift soon

>>387152717
Yi is kind of a Samurai.

>>387152292
>the GRAND magus
>can canonically master every spell in the dota universe, spells from superior beings like zeus/oracle/enigma included
>picked by experienced player aka supports

vs

>i am le beacon of knowledge blazing out across a black sea of ignorance
>can only cast 10 spells
>played by russian 12 year olds because theyve seen pros play it on TI

you tell me

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>>387152704
>scary looking motherfucker in splash art
>cute walking rock in game

>>387151947
All of dota's monsters still ooze character and personality.
Compare someone like sand king to rammus or volibear and it's not even fair
youtube.com/watch?v=YTXWUMa79cU

League will never make someone like broodmother that is actually a horrific monster because they can't sell it as waifu trash or market sexy skin variants.

Urgot, their previous "ugly" champion was just reworked into a big, imposing cyborg rather than the horrifying stitched, grotesque stitched mess he used to be. League has 3 acceptable archetypes, "badass" , "cute", and "sexy". That's it.

If pugna was in league they'd exaggerate his shortness, make his deep voice high pitched, play up the "I'M SO EVIL!!!" angle and call him Veigar.

>>387152386
He used to be more oldman toga. But I like that they made him more into a Bronze God. Matches his voice and lines a lot better too. Very egotistical

>>387152518
league also has a lot of characters with like 20+ minutes of voice lines.

>>387142550
Yes, and I don't have any irl friends

>>387152518
>Those tidehunter level up lines

That's gold

>>387152097
Some good points but it's as they switched his ult and basic ability. His ult is no better than anubis/Poseidon aoe while the rushing corpses does massive burst damage as well as slow and DoT. He can just sit under tower and farm safely and there is very little anyone can do early game. He does lack an escape which I think is supposed to be balance so yea, he's not TOO broken. Just that one ability does way too much damage as is.

HoN did

>>387152774

Riot admitted they made a mistake with the "generic sexy woman champ" a while ago, this was almost the entirely a result of a particular artist who was working there at the time.
They really have been pandering hard to the weaboo crowd lately though.

I would say that League silhouettes are much more defined than dota since dota leans a tiny bit more towards realism

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>>387152704
His tiny head always reminded me of pic related

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/thread

>>387151130
>gap closer
>skill that damages over time if you stay near him
>skill that immovilises people arround him
clockwerk is amumu actually

>>387152246
I liked it because it was a cool unique thing I've never seen before
this rocket hammer dude is pretty lame

League is far better than any other mobas
Better gameplay
Better role definitions
Better meta
Better waifus

>>387151197
Urgot just got re-designed and looks gross.


His ultimate is also pretty gnarly.

>>387152827
So you're saying carl is a fedora tipper?

>>387153091
>Role definitions
AKA being stuck in a pen.

>>387152467
>no Gen
Include Smite? Pl-please? We're relevant too!

I don't even play league I just like the Yordles.

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Spoopy shadow person that runs faster on their shadows.

Alternative for Nocturne is Night Stalker, but they don't look anything alike

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all of you have shit taste desu

>>387143007

I think you're confused
What LoL has is not "variety" so much as its just an incoherent mess of random shit they thought up as they went along
Everybody knows that Riot never really gave a shit about lore although they pretended to for a little bit

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>>387152856
The entire point of Rammus is that he has no personality at all.

Also, Urgot was a shitty blob before. Now he at least looks imposing and he's still a monstrosity on spider legs whose belly is full of fucking saw blades.

>actually a horrific monster
Cho'Gath, Vel'koz, arguably Skarner and Kha'Zix.

>>387153045

>literally posting 10 year old pics

Talk about beating a dead horse.

>>387153045
>he doesn't want swordboots

>>387152856
The thing about the monsters in Dota is that they're still fun without actually ruining their monster aspects.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meH9uKpQfzM

>>387152883
you're not understanding the point.
There are specific lines from each character referencing the other and ones that only play when they kill one another

>>387152990

It feels like they haven't released a titty monster since season 2. Has it really been that long ?

>>387148998
The meaty sound effects as Moraxus' axe splatters a creep when he's farming
The sound Monkey Kings vault makes as he flings them around
Almost all the original heroes voice lines are hella good, and really memorable

>>387152856
>compare to rammus
he's a meme in the LoL community since he literally only says 3 or 4 words
not really a fair comparison for personality...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bryKY8uBgdY

The newest champion has 13 whole minutes of special dialogue for other champs alone

>>387142550
HEROES OF THE STORM IS THE BEST MOBA

>>387152774
Yea Smite you really can't trust for "accurate" gameplay for gods, because they have to fit in to the gameplay formula already established.

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>>387153182
That spectre art sucks dick, here's her actual in game model

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>>387153204
> Claims people have shit taste
> Posts shittest game of all
> yogscast
> TotalBiscuit
Oh you.

>>387150967
Ah puch is fucking awful.
>Strafe his combo
>hes now pretty much defenseless
>most people, even squishies can walk through his ult and survive

Hate anyone that picks him, especially in conquest because they always over extend. And im always the jungle that gets bitched at.

>>387153182
I'm not sure what the comparisons are trying to say.

Almost every single Dota 2 design is a direct copy of what model was used to represent them in Warcraft 3, besides I guess Legion Commander and Lycan being the two notable divergences, where garithos was turned from angry man on horse to angry brown skinned amazon girl on foot, and lycan was changed from an eredar to an actual werewolf

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>>387153091
>Better role definitions

This is a bad thing though

>>387153079
nah fuck off you're lame

>>387152467
Quarry=settled

>>387153350
I wonder how that stacks up to Monkey King because he seems to have lines for every hero, both greeting them and killing them.

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now who's the better monkey?

>>387153403
>Posts shittest game of all
I didn't post LoL though?
> yogscast
> TotalBiscuit
I don't care about ecelebs, sorry.

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Hard to find good art for Sand King
But here you go, scorpion monsters

hots is a bit of fun. it's like bejeweled or some other simple mobile game. easy to play when you don't want to play something more complex.

just imagine living your entire life only playing bejeweled lol. it'd be like being a woman.

>>387153518
Monkey king has 20 minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7RFsp_WEak

Which is about the same as LoL's newest heroes

>>387145665

Touched a nerve did I?

>>387153540

I like the LoL one better on account of his cheerfull personality

>>387153403
DONT BULLY AWESOMENAUTS
sad that game is dead, i think it would have dont better if they didnt name it...Awesomenauts.
The custom songs they had for each hero were great
Ayla la la [.spoiler]

>>387153540
Wukong is far better, dota's monkey king is trash tier

>>387153425
His abilities have massive Aoe and go so fast it's almost impossible to dodge. Like He Bo waterspout. Overextending is a deathwish on him with no escape though

>>387148998
I honestly find that the dota sound design is pretty satisfying.

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>tfw best Moba/shooter hybrid came out too early before Mobashooters were a thing
this game was so good, just like Monday Night Combat.
if it came out today it would at least pull paladins numbers.

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>>387153470
based frozen toad with his innovation

>>387153617
wow you just described my mom, that's all she does on facebook

>>387153614
>no Serqet

>>387153182

this actually displays one of Riots biggest issues with character design

everytime they try to do even a remotely serious style of character it just looks like some edgy grimderp teenager shit

>>387147915
>dota is in the op
>thread about comparing art styles of mobas/assfaggots, which includes dota
>WELL JIMINEY FUCKING CRICKETS HOW CAN I MAKE A BAIT POST WITH THIS INFORMATION

>>387153518
Well if you add up all his voice time it's around 28 minutes

I just looked up MK though and his voice lines add up to 1 hour 23 minute, jesus christ.

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>>387147915
FUCKING DOTAFAGS REEEEEEE

>>387153227
Vel'koz is not horrific in the slightest, he's a floating eye that shoots lasers and wants to analyze shit.

Cho'gath is something out of a Saturday morning cartoon, he's a big not-tyranid t-rex with a big toothy grin that says "om nom nom" when he eats things.

>>it's shit on purpose
Okay, are volibear, alistair, maokai, and skarner intentionally dull too?

>>387147915
the average leaguefag everybody
and you couldn't even state what OP's point is if you tried, you're having a fever dream and quite lite

>>387153735
It's not a perfect transition but I've seen a lot of people happy jumping from SMNC to Gigantic.
I love Gigantic, personally.

>>387153614

Skarner had more personality than sand king. Honestly most dota heroes have really bland personalities and lines now that I think about it. Not that the LoL ones are stellar or particularly original but they really tend to sound a bit more lively and colorfull.

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Friendly tree guy

>>387153827
Making a serious character is a matter of more than just being edgy and grimdark, you have to give it some form of personality. That involves more than making characters by numbers though.

>>387153916

How big is the gigantic playerbase ? You think the game has staying potential ?

LoL character designs are largely irrelevant since in-game models are very stripped down.
Dota characters actually look the same in-game and in artworks.

>>387153959
Of all the ones you've posted by far, that's the only time I've liked a LoL one.

>>387153908
You're naming ancient characters that havent been reworked to fit in with the rest
low-hanging fruit and you know it

>>387153959
I'm over 25 and own a computer, which of these games should I play?

>>387153994
>How big is the gigantic playerbase

I think you answered your own question.

>>387153959
One is your kooky Grandpa who plays with the kids, the other is the story teller Grandpa who sits in his rocking chair all day.

>>387153152
>gen

>>387142550
Battleborn. They are badass.

>>387153994
I think it's a fun game and the best support you can show is jumping on the wagon and playing.

It's halfway between blowing up huge and going completely dead
show your support by playing, i think they artstyle is pretty great

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>>387154030
He has an even better skin too.

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>>387154014
I feel like they made the hero cam purely to show that off.

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Blue and red bugs

>>387153706
>fast it's almost impossible to dodge.
Yeah, maybe if youre in melee range. Its stupidly easy to fake-out an ah puch unless theyre really good, or play someone before who actually takes skill like Isis or slyv. That way they know how to predict movements.

Hes okay is joust if you have two other aggressive people or tanks who can take the brunt. But hes like a worse zeus.

>>387154069
Heroes of the Storm if you like Blizzard stuff
Dota 2 if you dont

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>>387153297
...which league also has.

>>387153669
>dead

>>387154014
League can be played at 60 FPS on a toaster, something they consider when creating the in game models

Early alpha Dota 2.

Reminder that the Dota Two we see now is a product of that traitor faggot Icefrog holding his own game hostage from Valve and forcing them to drop their original vision of the Dota Two universe of conquistador-era creepy South America mangled by the influence of the Twin Gods of War in favor of a generic kitchensink fantasy universe #9535244 of fuckhueg pauldrons and floating crystals.

rip skinned face venge

>>387153916
meh, i tried it.
but i really dislike the character designs in that game.
the only characters that look alright are the karate frog and the archer fox.
the rest did not appeal to me at all.
oh and the leveling up is so damn clunky.
and overall i didnt have a great time with.

>>387154202
Took them about as long as replays to implement

>>387154160
Weaver is a bit uninspired in design. As a character and lore he's neat though.

PLAY LEAGUE

PLAY LEAGUE

PLAY LEAGUE

STOP FUCKING SHITTING THE THREAD DOTARDS REEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>387154149
See...i see these characters and nothing really stand out. red guy blue guy green guy, cool.

>>387154204
>implying it isnt

>>387154160
keep doing these posts

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Spoopy almost skele guys who love playing glowing invisible dodgeball

>>387142550
I prefer HoN characters by far in both gameplay and design. LoL feels cartoonish but I guess that was the aesthetic they were going for. Just not my cup of tea.

Dota designs seem dumbed down or "soft" for some reason. Hon though has more angular, well defined models. When it comes to content and skins then Dota is king.

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>>387153540

>>387154329
LoL is to dota what Reddit is to 4chan.

>>387154272
>oh and the leveling up is so damn clunky.
>and overall i didnt have a great time with.
The level up and lack of laning also kills it for me.
You'd think in an incredibly fast-paced game, they would have thought that maybe having to hold ctrl and click through a pop-up, which stops everything wasnt the smartest idea.

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>>387154329
stop false-flagging, shitstarter.

>>387154254
the venge change and the latest 3 original heroes kind of make me think that valve does regret making so many of their characters ugly monsters (not that they had much of a choice with the source material)

>>387153959
> Ivern
> friendly
He make his animal friends kill themselves for his own greed
He's an evil Jew tree

>>387154410
>tfw swk is still best warrior by a far margin
release nike was pretty fun just for how broken she was, but SWK's kit is just too perfect.

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>>387154462

>>387154254
>rip skinned face venge

?

I love Clinkz because instead of making him over the top and edgy, they made the flaming skeleton archer that turns himself invisible and devours both friendly and enemy units to gain strength a jovial, laid back skeleton man that cackles with glee as he sprints around the map like a racecar

His backstory is pretty funny too.
>>At the base of the Bleeding Hills stretches a thousand-league wood—a place called The Hoven, where black pools gather the tarry blood of the uplands, and the king-mage Sutherex sits in benevolent rule. Once a sworn protector of the Hoven lands, Clinkz earned a reputation for his skill with a bow. In the three-hundredth year of the king-mage, the demon Maraxiform rose from sixth hell to lay claim to the forest. In response, the king-mage decreed an unbreakable spell: to any who slew the demon would be granted Life Without End.

>>Unaware of the spell, Clinkz waded into battle, defending his lands against the demon’s fiery onslaught. Clinkz drove Maraxiform back to the gates of sixth-hell itself, where on that fiery threshold the two locked in a mortal conflict. Grievously wounded, the demon let out a blast of hellfire as Clinkz loosed his final arrow. The arrow struck the demon true as hellfire poured out across the land, lighting the black pools and burning Clinkz alive at the instant of the demon’s death. Thus, the mage’s spell took effect at the very moment of the archer’s conflagration, preserving him in this unholy state, leaving him a being of bones and rage, caught in the very act of dying, carrying hell’s breath with him on his journey into eternity.

https://dota2.gamepedia.com/Clinkz/Responses

Dota is a generic western edge fest, lol is a 'westab´oo edgefest.

>>387153874
iirc Friggin Io has a ton of lines

>>387153345

bling BLING!
itsa FOUR G'S!

>>387154149
Among other things. Dota 2 has no real plan, it just adds random content that it doesn't expand a lot on.

>>387154142
Aaaand that kills it.

>>387153926
Sand King's voicelines are GOAT though
https://dota2.gamepedia.com/media/dota2.gamepedia.com/d/d3/Skg_move_23.mp3
https://dota2.gamepedia.com/media/dota2.gamepedia.com/d/de/Skg_level_02.mp3
https://dota2.gamepedia.com/media/dota2.gamepedia.com/f/fe/Skg_blink_04.mp3
https://dota2.gamepedia.com/media/dota2.gamepedia.com/d/de/Skg_rare_02.mp3
https://dota2.gamepedia.com/media/dota2.gamepedia.com/c/cb/Skg_rare_01.mp3

https://dota2.gamepedia.com/media/dota2.gamepedia.com/c/c7/Sand_rival_11.mp3

>>387154254
Dota 2's kitchen sink is great. It's a game where you get to play as a team consisting of a being who once wove the tapestry of fate, the last light of a dead universe, the strong molecular force, the gargoyle grim reaper and a guy who really hates magic.

>>387154640
This.
Riot is so much better at developing their own game compared to jew valve.

>>387154304
yeah. they used to be very scarce but they cranked it up around tahm kench's release.

Name a single character from a non-dota roster that has as much sheer personality and charm as Rizzrack the Timbersaw. I will wait, forever, because you can't.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsTO3BmWYsM

>>387154606
See the post above yours.

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>>387154695
>liking inconsistent bootleg warcraft 3: the artstyle
huh
hear me out
what if
listen
what if
the artstyle WAS consistent?

>>387154604
That's rad

Are there any other dota backstories which are interesting?

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>>387154640
Dota 2's game play is created and balanced by one guy, which is why the game's vision has remained consistent for so long, and why 107 different heroes were picked at the most recent tournament

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>>387154730
ehh some things dont need to be developed

I love League but that's because i got into it at Season 2, when it was still really clunky and pretty good.
Now they're just going really weaboo with it and im sticking around because of the nostalgia

Look what they did to my girl Poppy. LOOK AT HER.
I WANT YOU TO LOOK AT IT.

>>387154434
Funny how reddit loves Dota eh

>>387154908
Where the fuck is her armor.

Where is her real Paladin gear. What THE FUCK have t hey done?!

If that's the base skin I'm going to lose my mind.

>>387154695
>a guy who really hates magic.

And he's the most powerful of the lot

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>>387154908
Let's not act like it's a drop in quality

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dota sound design is fuckin ace

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>tfw you really love the character but can't play him for shit

>>387153926
Not sure if i agree anymore, new Skarner lore is shit and barely fits his current lines.

Then:
>scary, but genuinely kind monster who wants to make sure this world is safe for his kind
Now:
>generic monster who sits in a cave in the middle of nowhere and kills everyone that comes near to guard something

>>387154967
Isn't, but the mahou shoujo skins got stale real fast.

>>387151612
I want Lorewalker Cho. I want to hear his soothing voice once again.

>>387154860
The style is consistent, the things in the style differ wildly. And even then, why do you want to limit the things that are available? Do you want a bland homogenized set of characters? Or a set of diverse weird shit?

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>>387142550
>dota without cosmetics=best design
>dota with cosmetics=worst design
a handful of immortals are alright but the rest absolutely ruin whatever vision they had at the beginning

>>387154967
It's just a magic girl skin that several other characters have as well. Her re-design just removed her horrendous face.

>>387154971
>picks spectre
>stalls the game till 40 minutes
pshh nothing personnel kid

>>387154872
Azir doesn't make clown tho
He's an emperor and raise soldiers from sand
He's also a cool birb

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>>387154967
It's a skin for her based on Sailor Moon i think. There's a whole roster of champs with that skin theme. Here's her new splash since the update.

>>387154730
>dota was released after LeL
>had all the features that LeL strives to copy
>finally got replays
>finally got voice lines between characters
>finally got more bans
>finally got sandbox mode
hmmm...
so when are they gonna implement player perspective?

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Literally just Medusa

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Sproink!

>>387155085
We'll, they're optional. You can just not use cosmetics you know.

>>387155050
Good old riot, randomly changing things and not caring enough to change them everywhere else.

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>>387154967
nah its some shit skin
>>387155015
DUDE MEMES LMAO

they turned her into some faggot ditzy furry, she should be a bitchy shortstack paladin

>>387154958
Normies like LoL far more than Dota, reddit too. Just look at the subscriber number, LoL is far higher and it reflects in community contents as well.

Dota's community platforms and resources are shit while League's are far more polished.

Also LCS >>>>> Dota's major minor ti format

>>387155085
tfw people push back against the idea of a client side switch to turn off cosmetics because that meand you won't be forced to see their shitty artstyle brealing hats

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>>387142550
Muh dick should be the deciding factor here, anything else is gay. Besides, who actually plays ASSFAGGOTS?

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>>387155125
*goes unpicked at The International 7*

>>387155125
But made her personality fucking shit, all her lines are about she not knowing she is the heroe.

>>387155129
Shit I meant clone not clown

>>387155045
Literally me.

I find micro heroes fun to play and I like their character most of the time, I just SUCK

>>387155171
If I actually still played the game my only wish would be to have an option to turn off any cosmetics, but I guess it goes against Valve's corporate mindset

>>387154908
>alt skin literally designed to be generic anime magical girl
Wow how dare they

>>387154730
>Riot
>good at developing their own game
lmao LoL is clusterfuck while dota has attained the highest level of balance possible for a competitive game.

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>when valve fucked your ass with the nerfs because you have too much fun playing him
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7QX3NnzJSE

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No connection other than appearance

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>>387155167
superior deerfu comming through

>>387155158
>Snaketits
>Snake grandma

Why does dota hate attractive females?

>>387154362
It's full of players, and they are adding new characters. How is it dead?

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>>387152042
Man I wish I had a scissor to cut those fleshy pieces near his mouth so bad
this shit has been bothering me since like 2013

>>387155080
The "set of diverse weird shit" is what we could have had with Valve inhouse artstyle. "A bland homogenized set of characters" is now.

Take a look at Rubick. Doesn't look one bit like his wc3 counterpart, maybe beyond being humanoid and carrying a staff, but he's god-tier designed, right?

>>387155382
Being that is in possession of alcohol.

>>387154819
Timbersaw's voice has so much personality

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e88x1f_ns58

>>387155317
you dont understand this is a growing trend, the last 3 champs they released are anime bullshit and this is the skin line they just announced which adds like 5 of these retarded skins. I dont see it stopping soon

>>387155382
Brewmaster is one of my favourite heroes in any Moba.
and so is Chen from HOTS.
i loved chen in Warcraft 3
the only thing that would make Brewmaster better would be if he had the alcohol >firebreath combo

>>387155125
Spectre is shit this patch, if you want a free win hero in pubs just pick le balanced reaper of free regen.

>>387155396
I wanna fuck it

>>387155505
If it's the characters base skin that looks dumb then I guess I can see the issue but LoL has always had silly alt skins, yeah?

>>387155580
hrm

>>387145954
You have no point here. Being in a fighting game makes you a fighting character.

>>387155419
Dota has it's attractive females. It also decided that since it does, they don't need to make every other character an attractive female.

>>387155421
>Average Players last 30 days
>821

ehh

>>387155505
I wouldn't consider Rakan and Xayah anime. Xayah is just shit tier edgy like Kayn with shitty writing thanks to Burch.

>>387150664
Oh fuck someone remembers AOS. I thought I was the only one.

>>387153091
>better meta
>anything can be played anywhere
>all but 5 heroes picked/banned
>best teams with role switches both in draft and in game

>>387154867
Almost all of them, actually. My one hope for Artifact is that all this crazy shit in the lore actually gets referenced and expanded on

Here's Weaver's, who on the surface is "generic bug guy who goes fast and has tracer recall"

>>The fabric of creation needs constant care, lest it grow tattered; for when it unravels, whole worlds come undone. It is the work of the Weavers to keep the fabric tight, to repair worn spots in the mesh of reality. They also defend from the things that gnaw and lay their eggs in frayed regions, whose young can quickly devour an entire universe if the Weavers let their attention lapse. Skitskurr was a master Weaver, charged with keeping one small patch of creation tightly woven and unfaded. But the job was not enough to satisfy. It nagged him that the original work of creation all lay in the past; the Loom had done its work and travelled on. He wanted to create rather than merely maintain—to weave worlds of his own devising. He began making small changes to his domain, but the thrill of creation proved addictive, and his strokes became bolder, pulling against the pattern that the Loom had woven. The guardians came, with their scissors, and Weaver's world was pared off, snipped from the cosmic tapestry, which they rewove without him in it. Skitskurr found himself alone, apart from his kind, a state that would have been torment for any other Weaver. But Skitskurr rejoiced, for now he was free. Free to create for himself, to begin anew. The raw materials he needed to weave a new reality were all around him. All he had to do was tear apart this old world at the seams.

Chaos Knight, Wisp, Enigma, and Keeper of the Light are Fundamentals, each representing a key aspect of reality. Enigma is the fundamental of gravity, Chaos Knight is the Strong nuclear force, Keeper is the Weak nuclear force, and Wisp is electromagnetism.

There's some comics put out by valve going over the lore, Oracle's http://www.dota2.com/oracle/

>>387155675
Name one

>>387155419
Medusa is supposed to be hideous though.

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>>387155632
It's becoming an issue

look at this dumb bitch

>>387155158
I really, really want to fuck Cassiopeia, but Medusa's design is more interesting.
Old Cassiopeia splash was way better than current though.

>>387155773
Lina, Luna, QoP and LC are my Dota waifus

>>387154362
It's the same hero, he splits up into three forms
Fire, lightning and earth
That's why the design looks like that to you, I think

>>387155736
doesn't count
league has more players

>>387143007
>>387142550
This. Some of the weeby and waifu bitches are meh but the core characters are memorable and look different.

DOTA 2 a lot of the heroes or w/e look more like random mobs with very simplistic designs.
*red guy with axe and shoulder armor*
*blue guy with hat and sword*
*floaty girl in red with no shoes*
*mounted girl in blue with no shoes*
Are they suppose to be monsters? villains? humanoid species? Heroes?
BOOOO

>>387155826
I don't know what that is but it looks like original content do not steal

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dota's artstyle is pure shit since december 2013
also when they fucked with the color correction to make dire bright to appease lolbabs

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>>387155773
She's so hot.

>>387155715
>edgy like Kayn
in the AMA the designers said that they binge watched anime and tried to make him a trope of every over the top anime villain

>>387155826
Oh yeah the bird couple did look dumb actually, if only because the male looks awful without the female and even then he still looks kinda bad.

>>387154404
Lich is so fucking awesome

His abilities are top-tier and his voice lines are fucking gold. Pls don't get nerfed

>>387155908
This shouldn't be the basis for character design.

>>387154958
Nah LoL is Reddit the game

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