Is Stream sniping immoral?

>broadcasting your location for all to see
>suprised when you get shot
???

>>387132342
Stream sniping is for faggots who are shit at vidya. Cheating is the only way they can win at anything so this is just another way for them to cheat.

>>387132440
It's not really cheating though.

>>387132342
It's today's screen looking, which has always been for faggots. Streamers shouldn't be surprised by it though.

Stream sniping is a chemo

>>387132440
Stream Sniping is a term coined by faggots who are mad cuz bad

>>387132342
no, morality is reserved for reality, and things that happen in videogames are amoral.

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>>387132475
>It's not really cheating though.
Watching a stream to see where the other team is so you can win is not cheating?

OK

No, as long as the streamer is someone who's an utter faggot and deserves it.
Use your own judgment fampai.

>>387132609
>what is stream delay
honk honk, motherfucker

>>387132652
>What is being a faggot
kys

Expecting sympathy for getting stream sniped is like expecting sympathy for getting a speed ticket

>>387132342
Stream Sniping whiners are people that would dress up with underwear that has RAPE ME written on it while being in places like India and Africa where they rape everything no matter how you dress.
People out to kill you, making everyone know your position is your own choice.

>>387132681
nice counterargument. does my car horn honking upset your sensitive ego?

>>387132342
No, if you're dumb enough to go "LOOK AT ME I'M OVER HERE!" then you deserve it.

>>387132342
You're just using the tools at your disposal, nothing wrong with that.

Screaming "wahhh chat that guy killed me, bitch until he's banned!" every time you get killed isn't stream sniping.

>>387132342
nope it is 100% the streamer's fault, they are asking for it by broadcasting their location and actions in a multiplayer game to the entire internet

>>387132819
Except that these tools are external to the game, so there kind of is.

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>>387132609
>tell everyone where you are in the game
>when someone kills you call them cheaters

maybe you shouldn't have broadcasted your location the first place!

It IS immoral, but the onus is effectively on the streamer, since they're the one broadcasting their current location to the world and they have the tools at their disposal to prevent such a thing from occurring.

It's dishonorable, sure, but we're trying to fucking win not be fucking chivalrous knights. Of course people are going to use every means at their disposal to win.

>>387132917
With that logic It's wrong to have a better computer equipment.

>>387132609
>WTF I SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO RUN ON THE HIGHWAY, THOSE CARS ARE WRONG FOR HITTING ME!

Nah, doing something stupid like putting yourself at risk doesn't make the other people cheaters.

>>387132342
>job is to attract attention
>get mad when opponents give you extra attention
I have no sympathy for streamers being sniped.
Imagine if you're playing football with your friends and some random people. But one of those random people is a bit famous for playing football. Wouldn't it be natural to target him? Especially if he's not famous for actually being good, but for screaming while he plays.

>>387132973
That's why people demand that devs should work to make sure it is stable for a wide range of builds, to minimize the degree of external advantage one person has over the other.

>>387132917
>Higher frame rate is immoral

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>20k people watch your stream
>everytime you die, complain about stream snipers
>it's actually an excuse because you are bad but you can't say it in front of your fanboys
>fanboys report the guy even if nobody knows if he sniped
>he gets ban
>after a few months, only bad players remains unbanned
>the streamer is now the king of the game

streamers are actually genius

if someone too stupid to use a stream delay, that's their problem. it's quite easily the simplest fix

>>387133158
>only streamers are left playing
>soon streamers start reporting each other

Literally every single streamer on the planet is a huge faggot anyway. Comes with the territory. They deserve to be griefed, and godspeed to those doing it.

>>387133148
See >>387133125

>>387132609

You see if the opposing player is somehow hacking into your game and looking where you are, that's cheating. It is also known as wallhacks.

If you're a complete idiot and give up your position... then you're a fucking idiot for exposing yourself.

>>387132342
no

>>387133148
It kind of is because it gives a distinct advantage, same for 144hz monitors

>>387133308
Yeah, you're saying higher frame rate is immoral, so having a 144hz monitor is literally like kicking puppies.

>>387132342
No, it should be mandatory to join a clan or group in any game to look for the most popular streamer in the game and beat the shit out of him while watching his stream.

>>387133382
So is having good genetics so your vision is 20/20 and you don't have arthritic wrists.

>>387132342
I think it's lame as fuck that someone would go to all that effort just to come off as even more of an attention seeking faggot than whoever is streaming the game.
At the same time, streamers who cry about it need to remember they are broadcasting their shit and giving up an advantage to "entertain".

Stream snipers are doing God's work. Streamers are one of the many cancers killing the video game industries and it is NOT a job.

>>387133464
REEE stop invading my safe space you able bodied cis hetero normative scum!

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Post yfw "PUBG" will die in your lifetime.

>>387132342
Stream sniping is for of cheating, morality of it, I do not give a fuck.

>>387132609
>Turn stream off
>No one can see you
WOOOOW YOU MEAN PEOPLE CAN SEE ME IF I STREAM WTF MAN

>>387133559
>Turn stream off
>Can't see where someone is
WOOOOW YOU MEAN PEOPLE CAN HAVE SELF-CONTROL AND NOT CHEAT!?!

>>387133524
KILL ALL PITBULLS

https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1ca_1499385103

>>387133397
Immoral? No, but you shouldn't feel proud of yourself for winning because of a hardware advantage. You're not really doing well at the game then. Devs should work to maintain a high framerate for a wide range of builds.

>>387132431
fpbp

>>387132440
>shit at vidya. Cheating is the only way they can win at anything so this is just another way for them to cheat.
Well I got to Master tier in LoL without cheating, but I always stream snipe ppl for lulz. I'd probably do it in PUBG as well if it was less annoying.
Steamfags can simply put on a delay to hinder 99% of stream sniping. But they're too narcissistic to do that as they need constant live reaffirmation from their chat about how great they are.

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Streamers genocide when?

Let the girls live though, gotta love me some camwhores.

>>387133698
Thats what chaturbate is for

If someone is a big enough tool to bitch and moan about stream sniping, they probably had it coming and deserve it.

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>>387132342
>play multiplayer game
>voluntarily broadcast your every move on a popular website accessible by anyone because playing video games simply isn't enough for you, you also crave constant validation, attention, and money
>be surprised when people in the game with you use your stupidity against you
It's literally part of the fucking game. Don't like it? Simple! Don't broadcast yourself to the world and it won't happen.

>>387132609
>be running from cops
>stream your location
>get caught
Wtf faggot fucking cheating cops, I deserve to not go to prison now

I view streaming as immoral, so stream sniping is a moral act.

>>387132917
HA now that is a lie. Anyone can open up the steam browser in game and open up a twitch stream. Fucking BTFO

>>387133613
Confirmed for butthurt streamer

>>387132342
It should never be a dev issue. It's streamer's responsibility.
Banning people for honking proved that this game is garbage and devs are autistic streamers' bitches who will do everything on their nod.

>>387134028
This tbqh. Anyone that disagrees with our viewpoint is going to hell and needs to be banned from the game. I'm saying this in a non sarcastic manner.

>>387134090
>Implying steam web browser works

LMAO

>>387134240
I've never had any issues with it, it uses to sometimes not let me click out if YouTube videos so they would play until they finished but it doesn't do that anymore.

>>387133613
>play paintball
>carry around a megaphone and scream out your exact location to everyone for the entire day
>people easily find and shoot you
>"WOOOOW I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU GUYS DID THAT YOU SHOULD'VE COVERED YOUR EARS LIKE WHERE'S YOUR SELF-CONTROL?"

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>>387133158
>>387133246

No.

Annoying, sure, but ultimately that's what you get when you're broadcasting your position. I don't get why streamers don't just use a delay or play a different game if they're so deeply harmed by this.

And who gives a shit about streamers to begin with? When did anybody start listening to those retards? Why is there a lone faggot in this thread defending them?

>>387134713
It lets them play the "I care more about immediately interacting with you guys than disguising my position" card, which allows them to look sympathetic

It's cheating and the people who do it are assholes, but the streamer knows it'll happen and should have accepted that long ago

>>387134970
>cheating
Lol
Stop this, you're literally the only person that thinks this. You have brought no argument other than it's cheating, you're either falseflagging or a are a mentally retarded 13 year old.

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Holy fucking shit do people legit think that stream sniping is bad? Stream sniping is what happens when you're too fucking retarded to set a delay, it's your damn fault if you get killed. Even the PUBG devs went full fucking retard and actually made it a bannable offense despite being nigh impossible to catch someone stream-sniping without shoving a lot of spyware into their computer, I can't believe some of you guys are retarded enough to fucking think that stream sniping is a punishable offense and not the darwin awards side effect of live-streaming

>can't win
>have to watch someone streaming and focus exclusively on trying to find them
makes me laugh, but no, it's not really cheating. It's just pathetic. They get banned for it pretty much every time anyway, so let them have their fun.

>>387135096
Look up the definition of cheating

you're free to spend your free time however you want man, just don't downplay it like you're not having an easier time

>>387135167
>nigh impossible
Not really m8. It's super, SUPER easy to track retards leaving lobbies and re-entering them over and over and over and over till they get in one with a streamer. We're not in the 90s anymore, we can track player actions in a game with ease.

>>387135245
He was trying to play with his friend, retard.

>>387135167
>monitoring how often a person disconnects and which servers he stays in is "spyware"

>>387132652
>>387132951
>>387133083
>>387133346
>>387133559
>>387134018
>HURR DURR IT WASN'T STEALING BECAUSE THE CAR DOOR WAS LEFT OPEN MISTER JUDGE
Ya'll niggas going to prison.

>streamers have hundreds/thousands of people watching for them and helping them
>this is okay
>player levels the playing field by using the streamer's stream to his/her own advantage
>this is somehow not okay

>>387132342
no
streamers deserve to get destroyed in the games they play

>>387132342
No. If you are dumb enough to broadcast your screen to the entire planet, you should expect people to look at it. Stupid fucking streamer crybabies.

>>387135284
then why didn't he just play duos? Cause it's a bannable offense to team up in solos. That's been a rule since the fucking betas.

It's hard to get a serious /v/ take on this because most of them are extremely bitter that people are earning money for playing videogames

most of the time you'll have people strongly leaning against the streamer regardless of issue.

>streamer joins
>suddenly game revolves around them
They are worse than gamur girls

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Streamers are utter fucking cancer. If you don't want to be "stream sniped" then don't stream, it's as simple as that.

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>>387132609
>ancient facebook-tier image macro
>reddit spacing
>faggot opinion
This is a garbage post

It's honestly kind of amazing seeing the shift in age on this board. Normally it was always just 16-22 year olds. But after this game came out there have been actual 13-16 year olds in these threads defending their precious streamers. Stream sniping has been a thing since twitch was made. If you're going to show everyone where and what you're doing you deserve to get killed for it. Add a delay or quit bitching. It's not cheating and it's certainly not unfair either, it's your responsibility to not let people know where you are, it's absolutely nobody else's responsibility.

>>387135486
Or the devs will just ban the irrelephant literal who trying to stream snipe while kissing the ass of the streamer making their game matter at all by bringing in viewers and new purchases. Pretty easy choice for a dev m8. cater to the person who's going to help your game, not the person who's jealous their shit never took off.

>>387135452
Llol no it hasn't retard, many people make fragile alliances in solo, they only just recently made it a bannable offence.

people will cheat in whatever small way they can anymore, gaming is dead

>>387135534
>kid defending cheating with the shittiest arguments ("hurr durr it's easy to do so it's ok")
>they are the one calling underage
okay my dude

>>387135548
Legit question, why people always think the other person is jelly or something?

>>387133698
>>387133747
Why isn't there a website for girls playing video games while getting naked and masturbating?

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>>387132342
MOMMY THEY STREAM SNIPED ME AGAIN IT JUST ISNT FAIR! IM NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR REAL ESPORTS OR CAREERS IM OPENING A TICKET TO THE GAME COMPANY ABOUT THIS! REEEEEEEEEE!!!!

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>>387135245
>>387135308
Who is actually that fucking retarded to play ONLY to stream-snipe?
>>387135395
Don't even get me started on the fucking Cult Of Personality for streamers, where literally thousands of kids and sperging fanatics are watching a retard choke their tears when they got killed for not setting a delay and sic their hounds to players they dislike regardless if they are innocent or not.
>>387135464
A lot of streamers are decent, but the cult of personality around them almost borders on fucking Exa's rabid 7 year olds defending him and supporting him in his fucking "Strategic Yandere" game
>>387135534
This
>>387135597
Nowadays, it's called "Meta"

>>387135464
This isn't a complicated issue, the streamer can put a delay on their stream which makes it a lot harder for someone to stream snipe them, if they choose not to because they want to interact with the viewers immediately then they shouldn't get upset if they get stream sniped.

>>387135572
No, it's always been a rule m8.

https://web.archive.org/web/20170519004719/https://www.playbattlegrounds.com/rulesOfConduct.pu
Sure that's only may, but that's still 3 months ago. Far from "recently".

>>387135534
>>>>>this
personal responsibility is for buncha fuckin losers

if you're gonna leave your house door open I'm takin everything in it

>>387132342
Screen peeking in split-screen versus is immoral and so is stream sniping but I have no respect for faggot streamers so I'd cheer for whoever fucks with them

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>>387132342
streamers deserve worse to be honest
get a real job

>>387135630
Because in this particular case, someone is sitting in someone's stream, watching them, giving them revenue for doing so, just to try and find them in a game and kill them by taking advantage of their stream. Screams of petty jealousy to me.

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>>387132483
This. So much this.

>>387132482

It's screen looking, if you were projecting your screen for the entire internet to see. If you're going to show your screen to everyone, quit complaining when people look at it. Or use a fucking delay, it's why they exist.

>>387135685
You claimed it was since beta, you're fucking wrong m8, go cry in your safe space shit hole.

>>387135752
screams of griefing/mindless fun to me.

>>387132342

no

>>387135674
Yeah fuck the streamer for trying to optimize their stream for interaction, time to fuck up their game

>go into ghetto with a nice car and phone left on the seat
>get mad when nogs bust in and steal it

>leave door wide open at night and go away for a weekend
>get mad when people come in and steal shit

>stream a game where you die once and that's it
>show your location and exactly what weapons, armor, vehicle, and location you're at
>get mad when people kill you because of it

It's almost like it's up to the streamer to ensure that doesn't happen.

>>387132342

No, it has nothing to do with morals.

Games just ban for it when they use it as their main source of advertisement.
And they don't even care if it is sniping, they will ban anyone that makes their game look bad on a stream.

>>387135815
That's just the earliest snapshot I can find, retard. Keep crying that dumbass stream snipers and teamers are getting banned though.

>>387135452
>Cause it's a bannable offense to team up in solos

kek

Is there anything this piece of shit DOESNT ban people for?

Stream sniping is cheating, but I'm not sure how I feel about game developers enforcing it with bans.

someone seems very upset his 20 viewer (if that) stream got sniped

>>387133490
>something you do daily to earn money
>not a job
So what is a job, if not that?

>>387135862
Well yeah.

Fuck them. Who cares. These are the same fags complaining about languages but not using wordfilters

>>387135872
Kys retard, you're wrong.

>people who in game have their name something like "Twitch/Faggotlord69"
Those ones more of deserve to be Streamsniped, much more than the popular ones who don't need to prostitute their name everywhere like a 2 dollar hooker

>>387132342
Can I get a food analogy about this shit bro?

>>387136068
Except I'm not. Show me a screenshot of the rules page from earlier than may where it's not a rule, and I'll concede (even though I know such a thing doesn't exist). Please.
>>387136119
>streamers are eating a meal
>stream snipers run up and shit on plate
>LOL ITS JUST FOR FUN BRO CHILL OUT
>get arrested for it
>cry

>>387136119
>Leave sandwich on park bench
>WOOOOOOOOOOOOOW how was I supposed to know the birds would come and eat it??????

>>387135862
yea fuck them, you don't get to have your cake and eat it too. You can't complain about a problem you can solve easily and then tell people to make new rules because you refuse to change.

>>387136119
you already have 50 misplaced crime analogies, is that not enough

>>387136147
>Except I'm not. Show me a screenshot of the rules page from earlier than may where it's not a rule, and I'll concede (even though I know such a thing doesn't exist). Please.

The burden of proof is on you, retard :^)

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>>387132342
>honk honk
>honk
>hooooooooonk

>>387132342
All I know is I'd abuse the shit out of it and would harass streamers until they rage quit.

>>387132342
Stream sniping is hilarious. If you're going to stream your gameplay in a multiplayer game and either camp enough that your delay doesn't keep them from knowing where you are or not have enough of a delay to protect you from stream sniping, you deserve it.

>>387135752
>people who give me a hard time are jealous of me!

I love these mental gymnastics people do

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>>387136238
I showed proof that it wasn't recent. You're the one saying it was.

>>387136415
3 months is recent, retard.

>>387132342
Dumb fucks are too dumb to delay their broadcasts by a min or two they deserve to get sniped

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>>387135498

And your eloquent take down of it was an astounding accomplishment in /v/ post history. Bravo. Have a round on me, old chap.

>reddit spacing

People have been formatting their posts like that since before Reddit was a thing.

>>387136297
Most streamers are too technically incompetent to set even a 30sec delay

>>387135320
You won't live to see that though, as you got hit by a car because you think intentionally running into traffic is a good idea and a good source of attention.

>>387136501
fucking hardly. It's half of the game's commercial lifespan.

streaming and getting sniped is the equivalent of wearing skimpy clothing and walking through ghetto at night. Its pretty bad it happened to you but you really only have yourself to blame

>>387136553
The delay is so incredibly easy to set, a small child could figure it out.

They just don't set one because they'd rather pass off the justification that "stream sniping is cheating and I'm not going to negatively impact my interaction with my viewers because of cheaters" to try and take some imaginary moral high ground and also appeal to their viewers' sense of being "friends" with the streamer.

>>387136119
>order some take out
>blog about where you ordered it from, what you ordered, etc.
>likely be a huge fag about it too, maybe give a $1000 donation incentive to order it with Sriracha sauce
>get mad when someone uses the info you broadcasted to pick up your food before you could

>>387136934
>they'd rather make their stream enjoyable to watch instead of some 18 minute waiting disaster like those poker streams that were popular for all of a day
okay bud, they're terrible people, you're right. Those guys who sit in their streams and jerk off to the thought of spending their day quitting and re-entering matches till they're paried up with them are the true heroes.

>>387133624
But his point is that most builds are 60 fps max due to the monitor, it's not a dev issue to fix.

>>387137017
>implying anyone ever sets a delay more than 1 minute

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>>387137017
>kids growing up these days hold video game Streamers as role models and heroes


holy shit

>>387132342

its a bannable offense and nothing you do or say is going to change that

>>387132609

>play hide and seek
>"I'M OVER HERE I'M OVER HERE!"
>I found you
>"WTF!"

if teams should be allowed to just look at the enemy screen, why do they make it bannable in starcraft tournaments?

>>387137289
It'd be more like you were yelling at the other hiders where you were hiding.

>>387137453
Completely fair to ban it when there's money/winnings on the line.

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>"honk honk"
>get banned
wtf man

>>387132475
You probably screen cheated you dumb fuck

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If someone uses their browser to find out where a player is, that's using a third party program to gain an advantage over another player, which is explicitly against most game's rules.

If someone hunts down the same player over and over again, specifically targeting them, that's both griefing and harassment, which is also explicitly against most game's rules.

>But the guy is an idiot for streaming his location to the world
Even if the guy being targetted is a dumbfuck, it's still against the rules 9 times out of 10.

Your moral stance has no relevance if you're not the one making the game and its rules, nor the one who makes the decision of how those rules are enforced.

>>387132342
No because streamers are not human beings.

>>387137643
It'd be more like if the hiders were whispering to each other about their sick hiding places over walkie talkie and the seeker found them by listening on his own walkie talkie.

>>387137680
>Say "Melon"
>Get kicked out

WOOOOOOOOW HOW WAS I SUPPOSED TO KNOW?

>>387138109
>play battlefield
>make it a point to target some sniping faggot and kill him every time he sets up camp
g*sh d*rn it i'm griefing and harassing now

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>>387137680
>be a chad gamer and as such don't even know what a stream is
>dominate a solo ffa match completely naked and unarmed
>get banned for killing a streamer

>>387138616
>the virgin stream
>the chad broadcast

>>387138598
correct

>>387138934
t. sniping faggot
Sorry you can't sit from a 100 miles away trying to snipe my team when I'm on watch sweetie

I was just wondering who the fuck has time to go on someone's stream to find where they are.
Most of the time the streamer goes unknown. Unless you watch streams and know their ingame name, it's a very tiny uncommon issue.

Actual stream sniping is immoral, but not ban-worthy unless stated otherwise in the EULA.

That said, 90% of the people whining that they got stream sniped actually just suck and are desperate for an excuse as to why they suck, and banning the many for the actions of the few is throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

Streamers are acting like there's some kind of illuminati cult of stream snipers after their asses 24/7 and it's honestly fucking ridiculous.

>>387139438
>Actual stream sniping is immoral
in what world?

>>387132342

>Ham going on sale at a random time during the day
>Look through window to see when ham is getting marked down
>Get the ham before anyone else
>Thinks this is fair to everyone else

>>387139512

Just on the same level as screenpeeking in a splitscreen game. It's not an unforgivable fucking sin but I would call you a fag for doing it regularly.

>>387132431
This.

Hide your server list/location, add delays, etc and stop getting pissy when you get killed.

>>387136585
this is where the metaphor doesn't work

>>387139674
nothing immoral about that
honor is not morality, its an archaic belief cause "muh feelings"

>>387139010
t. pathetic cheater
sorry you can't compete without breaking the rules

>>387132953
Cheating is definitely dishonourable but immoral is a bridge too far.

You can cheat in life to do good but you'll still be deemed to be unethical/dishonourable.

they should get a medal
not only they are able to join the same game in a game without server browser
but they also can locate a person on a gigantic map and get to them through 80 other people on the server

>>387132342
no streamers are fucking faggots and deserve to be culled wherever they are, fucking jew bastards need to get a job where they actually pay their taxes instead of crying about muh
5000 pound healthcares

>>387139809
>>387139852
>cheating
can you not?
cheating = aimbots, wallhacks etc
stream sniping is hurt feefees not cheating

>>387139991
can you look up the definition of cheating for me

Lets look at it categorically.

Would you want everyone in the world to look at what's on your screen and see where you are so they could find you and kill you? If no, then you believe it it be immoral.

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>>387139991
>Cheating is what I SAY IT IS AND ONLY ME

>>387140058
don't need to, been playing games for 20 years

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>>387132342

I was playing Resident evil outbreak 2 last night when some fag posted his stream. It was on flashback he picked Kevin so I ran around the level shouting Kevin, we got to the point where you have to climb the ladder to get to the third plant. We didn't have the syringe despite me doing everything so I had to run back to find one. Found him killed by Axeman.

Then found him again when I made and End of the Road room, after killing the boss he made a dash for the truck and got the bad ending while myself and the other 2 went back for Linda. These people have brain problems.

>>387139991
Stream sniping is on the same level as screenlooking. Screenlooking is cheating.
>but he CHOSE to stream
And I chose to play local multiplayer with you instead of playing over the internet. It's still cheating.

>>387132342
I hope this will motivate /v/ to organize good old raids but this time with the help of stream sniping.

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>>387132342

Streamers are cancer and it is your God-given duty to shit on their day and piss off their viewers.
Any steps you take to do so are entirely justified.

>>387140386
And crowdsourcing hundreds or thousands of suggestions and hints in real time isn't cheating?

Hundreds of eyes to look in every direction?

>>387140386
>It's still cheating
is what the losers cry when they lose again
im not going to put limiters on myself for your sake
if its available (inb4 hurr durr cheats are available, not even closely similar) im going to use it

>>387138109
So playing pyro and killing the one spy who wont switch on the enemy team is considered griefing? WOWWWWWW

>>387140789
>im not going to put limiters on myself for your sake
There's a polar difference between "putting limiters on yourself" and "literally cheating to gain an advantage"

>Play professional poker game
>Show everyone what cards you have in your hand
>WOW I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU USED THIS INFORMATION TO YOUR ADVANTAGE WOW YOU FUCKING SCUMBAGS

>>387141023
>if its available (inb4 hurr durr cheats are available, not even closely similar) im going to use it

>not using available tools is not limiting yourself

i know your kind, you are the same type of faggot that complains when people turn off shadows in the options, cause OH MUH CANT HIDE ANYMORE YOU CHEATIN

>>387141152
t. cheating faggot
I'm not a literal sociopath who is incapable of sportsmanship and an even playing field.

>>387140386
It's literally not the same though, if we are playing something on the same screen I am not willingly giving away my position, that's just a consequences of my circumstances, and a silent contract between two people to not look at one another's screen. If I am streaming myself playing a game for attention, I am willingly giving up my position and therefor my right to privacy.

>>387139674
>not using an fpga to split the signal in half and spread it across two different tvs so it's impossible to screenpeak
>not also making your own filter modifiers like inverted colors, monochrome, drunk cam, LSD cam etc
I honestly feel bad for brainlets

Stream sniping should be encouraged and rewarded. Streamers are a cancer.

>>387132431
>being born
>surprised when you get shot

???

>>387140191
>>387140058
it's not cheating it's griefing and/or messing with streamers

>>387141724
>if we are playing something on the same screen I am not willingly giving away my position
Yes you are, you chose to play the game locally rather than over a network connection. You made a choice that allows people to see where you are. Whether that was the main intent of the choice is not relevant to the screenwatcher. You can make a different choice and just not have to deal with screenwatchers.

This is the same argument anti-streamers make. "He can just chose not to stream." Yeah and the stream sniper can just chose not to cheat. One guy's fun shouldn't have to be ruined because of one dickhead, just like your fun playing splitscreen shouldn't, or the hiders in this guy's example >>387138328 shouldn't

>>387142047
Holy hell this. Are people on this board suddenly sub 80 IQ? This is the same thing as joining a guy you hate or a friends game over and over again from your recent players list or friends list. This shit has been happening since before the 360 days. It's not cheating.

>>387132342
No because any person with IQ above 90 would delay their stream by 10s or more. Whoever gets stream sniped deserves it.

>>387142197
>no, stealing cars shouldn't be considered illegal because you can just park a decoy car behind yours
>and if it gets stolen anyway they deserved it

>>387142079
That is literally wrong though. You fail to see the difference between advertising your position and not, and then go so far as to say if you don't want someone to screen cheat in multi well its your fault for playing local multi, and then saying that "just don't stream" isn't a valid argument.
Get fucked

>>387133524
If that were true I'd blow my brains out right now.

>>387135452
>Cause it's a bannable offense to team up in solos
Why the fuck? That shit is fun.

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>It's a people confuse ghosting with sniping episode

>>387138109
>If someone hunts down the same player over and over again, specifically targeting them, that's both griefing and harassment, which is also explicitly against most game's rules.

Wrong.

It's neither until you follow them from server to server.

Harassment and griefing don't come into play until you circumvent the point of the game to bother them. IE deliberately going out of your way to countersnipe a base sniper isn't harassment or griefing until they change servers and you change servers to follow them, because countersniping has a place in the game.

>>387133647

You play LoL which makes you either a child or just shit for brains. Rest of your post wasn't needed.

>>387142171
Could you look up the definition of cheating for me

>>387142378
I'm reducing them to more categorical forms for easy examination, anon. Like a mathemetician does when trying to solve whether something is P or NP. I went to college.

Someone wants to have some extra fun on top of the game they want to play -- streaming, walkietalkie-ing, playing locally. Another person exploits this for an advantage.

Is the person who wanted some extra fun in the wrong, or is the unsportsmanlike one who ruined their fun in the wrong?

>>387142652
>It's neither until you follow them from server to server
This is what the PUBG stream snipers everyone's making a fuss about did.

>>387135813
They should use a delay, but you are still a faggot if you do it.

Why is it so hard for these streamers to just have a five minute delay when playing "open multiplayer" games if they're that worried about having their streams used against them? Unless they want to bitch and cry?

>>387142939
because that makes conversing with chat an absolute fucking chore?

>>387142939
Why should they have to impose limitations on their stream just because one guy wants to be an asshole?

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>this thread
Stream sniping is cheating and it's already an offense that can get you banned, but it's up to the streamer to avoid this situation in the first place (using a delay). And they shouldn't abuse the report either and ban people for being better than them.

It's pretty much rape all over again.

>>387142859
My understanding of PUBG "matchmaking" was that it's basically completely random, isn't it? How do you deliberately follow someone in that situation when you don't even know if they're gonna be in the match you join, and even if you repeatedly leave and join other matches, how will you know that you've found the right one?

The logistics don't make sense. It's more like buttmad streamers are mad that they're bad.

>>387142754
Could you? Because I'm not modifying any in game files and as far as video games are concerned that's what cheating is. It's not cheating if in football you learned what the enemy team is going to beforehand. If they can't adapt to you knowing their plan then they obviously aren't as good as you in the first place. It's like them broadcasting to the entire stadium what their gameplan is and then asking you to not listen and if you do listen then for the refs to ban your team from ever playing again.
>B-B-BUT MUH "UNFAIR" ADVANTAGE
There's nothing unfair here. The streamer is using an open, free platform that anyone in the world can watch. He is not hiding his game related details. He's exposing himself essentially asking for people to cause trouble for him. If he wasn't up to the challenge he could stop streaming or like millions have suggested add a big delay to his stream.
This isn't cheating, at best it's griefing which has by definition never been considered cheating.

>>387143000
>conversing with chat an absolute fucking chore
>while playing a competitive multiplayer type of game
Really make my nignogging

>>387143129
why don't they git gud so they can kill or fight off the guy trying to stream snipe?

>defending streamer cancer
>ever
More of them should get sniped.

anyone who seriously cares about this needs to sort themselves out

>>387142357
>This retarded analogy
ecksdee

Well I remember good ol legacy rust days when people refused to stream it cause they didn't wanna show the position of their base to everyone and did jewtube videos instead. What has brought us to a point were streamers feel entitled enough to bitch about "streamsniping".
Streamers are the cancer of gaming. I'm not talking about speedrunners. I'm talking about these casual piece of crap streamers playing every fotm.

>>387143195
>If I put the literal definition of cheating in quotes it means that I just disproved its definition
damn you're good, straight outta /v/ shitposting academy? What were your grades

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>>387132342

99% of streamers are total cancer. Everyone should stream snipe as much as possible to make them quit. Pic related.

why would someone watch some faggot fucking around for 20minutes and then die?

>>387143183
No, there's a hidden rating system, and it also splits players up based on region. Those 200k players in the game right now are split between 3 or 4 regions, 6 game modes, and god knows how many MMR brackets.

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Unless you are a Japanese Anime Girl, it should be.
https://youtu.be/Qhh0igzqtqY

>>387143326
>if I greentext with a non argument maybe I'll win!
You're the only shitposter here.

>>387143228
That's like trying to beat a psychic with your fists.

>>387143129
Since when was gaming about the comfort zones of streamers?

>>387132342
it's impossible to do in PUBG
in Day Z it's rude to constantly harass people but the point of the game is to find people to harass

i'd make a food analogy but you guys would just go
>food analogy

>>387143342
But are there rooms you can manually join? Are they named or numbered or displayed on your screen when you're playing?

>>387142010
>Be a retard
>Make a retarded post
>Will probably be surprised that you're called a retard

>>387143462
It's not about comfort zones, it's about sportsmanship. This doesn't apply to streamers, it applies to everyone. If somebody wants to do something extra that offers them no advantage in the game, they should be allowed to. If somebody wants to do something extra that offers them a direct unfair advantage in the game over another player (like stream sniping), they shouldn't be allowed to.

>>387143602
>sportsmanship
>pubg
Choose one

>>387143408
just punch him you pussy

>>387143332
t. mad that he can get 17 kills in solo AND eat his dindin too

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>>387143602
>sportsmanship in battle royale

>>387135395

in ye olde days this also occured under the guise of Admin powertripping/abuse. Nowadays admins have been replaced with the actual devs, if playerfaggot's BRhuehuehue game is anything to be judged by

>>387143602
>sportsmanship must be enforced

>>387143826
>why did they ban me for aim-hacks, I thought this was Battle Royale. Wooow.

>>387135498

>using the tab button means you're from reddit

dipshit

>>387135534

>people actually think this way

Leaving and joining matches over and over and over until you finally make it into a match with someone else who happens to be streaming content for other people, and then you use said content to kill that person, you cheated.

That said, I don't really understand why someone would even want to watch a twitch stream of the game, or any game really.

>>387135572

Slippery slope faggot, you let some people do it, and then you have 10 chinese laggers in a squad inside solo-queue. Solo is for playing solo, if you make some kind of deal in the game with someone you're technically breaking the rules. No I don't think banning people for it is fun, but you can't let people team in solo, it will fuck everything up.

Probably not morally wrong, but can we all at least agree that it's pretty fucking autistic to do.

>>387143959
In what universe do you live in where sportsmanship is -not- enforced in every single competitive event?

>>387143826
>pubg
>battle royale
PUBG has nothing in common with Battle Royale. They just borrowed the name (their website says verbatim "this is battle royale") to make money.

An extremely major facet of Battle Royale was teaming up with people who ultimately you had to beat.

This is LITERALLY a bannable offence in PUBG.

>>387143547
There is a custom game browser to find other games, a bit like TF2 which has matchmaking and a server browser.

>>387144025
>can't let people team in solo
>Dev has no idea what "fragile alliance" is and wastes 90% of the potential of the game
"Guys solo is for solo players only, have some respect for all the social misfits who won't dare to talk to people"

Back in the day this would have been commended, videos would have been made, and memes from oldfags would have echoed through the chambers.
Now all that play video games are numale sjw cucks and low test beta orbiters so of course they think this cheating because they idolize these 0 personality streamers because it's the one thing in their life they can't fuck up doing. This could barely be considered griefing. Definitely not cheating.

>>387144093

Another "major facet" of Battle Royale was getting HILARIOUS JOEK weapons so you can get killed by the psycho kid who got the UZI 10 feet outside the door. Fun.

Face it cock sucker, making random teams in solo-queue will just fuck everything up already.

>>387132342
>streamers are so autistic that they are literally, LITERALLY unable to add a 2 minute delay to their stream

>>387144093
In the movie you weren't supposed to team up either, because only the last survivor would win. Seems pretty stupid to me to say that it has "nothing in common" just because the game does not encourage teaming up in solo (there are modes for playing with others anyway)

If streamers weren't wearing overpriced shit quality gayyymee headsets and talking every 5 seconds they could actually pay attention and here what's around them. Guarantee they would die a lot less.

Those streamers had it coming

>>387144298

You're missing the fucking point.

For every 'fragile alliance' you think will get made in this game, there will be dozens of faggots teaming up from the game start, putting actual solo-queue players at a massive disadvantage.

Unless the dev is ready to ban thousands of people for not strictly abiding to this 'fragile alliance only' rule.

>>387144357
>Face it cock sucker, making random teams in solo-queue will just fuck everything up already.
How, exactly?

Because people can exploit it and organize teams outside the game? They claim their system is capable of tracking when players try to get into the same lobby as another player. This would detect that behavior and allow actual random teamups to take place.

What about stream honking

>>387144404
Nah cause then they wouldn't be able to "muh chat interaction"
"Streaming culture" is not about gaming, it's about ideolizing some dude sitting in front of a camera while shitposting in his chat to fish for a reaction from his side. It's like these Talkshows that air around noon and are only watched by unemployeds, total loosers and suburb mums

>>387144635
No actual record of anyone getting banned for it, just memeing.

>>387132609
Imagine being a military at war and publicly broadcasting live all of your actions worldwide, and then whining that your enemies had an unfair intelligence advantage.

>>387144093

>bunch of school students who are all 'friends' or at least have known eachother for a while
>only like 2 random people nobody knows

Yeah weird how these kids would form bonds and not want to kill their friends.

Now, let's compare that to the island filled with 100 random fucking people from wherever who don't care about eachother at all. Hmmmmm

>>387144558
Well that's what the fucking team cue is for. What is the fucking problem?
Banning people who aren't playing after the rules should be banned no matter what and saying "the Dev would have so many people to ban" is just the next level of a lazy dev. It's player justifying the des lazyness. Welcome to being a part of the cancer that kills online gaming

>Playing competitive battleship
>Take a picture of my board and show it to everyone
>My opponent sees the picture
>Attacks all my battleships

DUDE WHAT THE FUCK THAT ISNT FAIR

>>387136585
>/v/ finally finds an even worse version of the food metaphor

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>>387144558
Check this twitter post from PU where he says they can detect when people try to join the same match as someone else. This can easily be used to make sure that solo queue participants actually queued solo.

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>don't play shit games
>don't watch shit streamers
>get to enjoy this battle between morons without being affected
dance for my amusement, plebs

>>387144723
Your metaphor is missing the literal God that wrote the rules of warfare specifically banning watching the broadcasts of people you're at war with.

>>387145053

>not knowing the joy of donating $200 to a qtie streamer and having your twitch name featured on the "Biggest D of the month" list

I feel sorry for you

>>387144957
>>Take a picture of my board, put it in my unlocked house, and say that anyone but my opponent can look at it.
>My opponent disregards this and takes a peak anyway.

Wow he dindu nothing.

>>387144957
>Playing competitive battleship
>Take a picture of my board and put it on facebook or whatever the fuck
>My opponent gets his phone out, and goes to my facebook specifically to see the picture he knows I just posted
>Attacks all my battleships
fixed

You're right, it ISN'T fair. It's still cheating. Just because you created the means for him to cheat doesn't mean it isn't cheating.

>>387144357
>Another "major facet" of Battle Royale was getting HILARIOUS JOEK weapons so you can get killed by the psycho kid who got the UZI 10 feet outside the door.
yeah, god forbid that the game actually does something new and fun, instead of just being the same shit like everything else

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>>387145161
this

>>387132342
should making summer /v/ e-celeb threads be a bannable offense?
yes

>>387142010
>Be born a strawman

>>387145031

So you'd just need to be checking every match all the time for all the people playing the game to check and make sure that they are indeed NOT skipping around looking for people they know.

How would this even work ? How are they going to know you're friends with someone ? You could not be friends on steam, and then use an external chat program to communicate and get into the same game.

Are they going to ban me for leaving lobbies ? Maybe I'm very busy and have to get up and tend to things a lot.

>broadcast you're position to the world
>expect to be treated the same as someone who is not
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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>>387145252
>imgur filename
explains everything, doesn't it :'-)

>>387145180
Jesus Christ the hoops you fucking 13 year olds will jump through just to defend your precious streamers

>>387135320
It's more like saying 'it wasn't stealing because the owner of the car opened the car door, left the keys in the ignition, and told me 'go ahead, take a ride!''.

>>387145180
>show your tactics to everybody around the world
>complain if anyone uses that knowledge against you
It sure is summer in here

>>387140634
A gajillion times this. Only people defending streamers are a bunch of underage faggots who are the reason why gaming is terrible today. Do your god-given duty and eliminate their idols.

>>387145218

So what if you're the guy who gets the pot lid like half the time ? You really want to make a game where someone starts with fucking BINOCULARS and has to kill someone else to "win" ?

Never make a fucking video game ever.

>>387142010
We're not all Americans.

>>387145390
All that information already gets recorded for every player for them to review. All it would take is some automation.

If you can't program a computer to look through a few thousand strings of text, identify when a user makes several connection attempts in a row, then compare it to past multiple-connection attempts, then draw a comparison of the users in the game they finally connected to before they stopped repeatedly reconnecting for 5 minutes, then you have no business programming a video game.

Why are people make a comparison to screen peaking? The streamer doesn't have the option to screen peak back, so the comparison is void. The streamer is voluntarily broadcasting his location and intention to the world and is expecting to be treated by the other players in the match as if he weren't. If he doesn't want to deal with people looking at his location, just turn the stream off. How is this even a real fucking issue.

>>387145656
The point of the game is surviving. If you can't even grasp the goal conditions of your favorite garbage game, then how about you shut your cute little mouth and let the adults talk? :-)

>>387145428
>point out a critical flaw in someone's argument
>they try to insult you
every time

The streamer didn't force the stream sniper to see where he was, the stream sniper went out of his way to find that information.

>>387132342
you deserve to get "stream sniped" if you're autistic enough to stream yourself for everyone to see

>>387145176
How can you type when you are holding all these cocks you faggot?

>>387139991
Not to go into the gradation of what cheating is worse but hacking is easily worse than stream sniping.

stream sniping at least has a level of the victim being at fault to argue about.

>>387145750
Because it literally is screen peeking.
>The streamer doesn't have the option to screen peak back
which makes it even more unfair an advantage.

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>>387132342
No, it isn't. Streamers get special treatment and advantages from their orbiters in virtually every multiplayer game, stream sniping is as close as it gets to balancing out the advantages they get.

>>387146018
It'd be unfair if the streamer was forced to stream, but he isn't. It's voluntary. He is VOLUNTARILY broadcasting he location, essentially shouting at the top of his lungs during a game of hide and seek.

>>387145742

You say that like Bluehole and Playerunknown aren't some random literally who dev team that exists because of some ARMA mod or whatever the fuck.

Look, I don't think teaming in solo is a good idea, solo should be meant for each individual person playing to do their best to try and win, personally, without anyone else helping.

At the same time, making a deal with some guy to not shoot each other so you can escape the blue and maybe make it further into the game, shouldn't be bannable. Or a pair of cars racing to the white zone, honking at one another almost as if to say "I wont shoot if you dont shoot" because you both want to get to the white. Straight up working together with someone like it's Duo is bullshit though. Fuck that.

>>387145931
The victim at fault doesn't change the fact that the perpetrator broke the rules. If someone decides to take a nap on the sidewalk with their wallet poking out of their pocket in plain view of everyone, it's still illegal to steal his wallet no matter how retarded the guy is.

This isn't a car accident where who's at fault changes the entire judgement. The guy used a third party program for an advantage over another player. He broke the rules, no ifs ands or buts about it.

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>playing poker
>one guy constantly shows us his hands
>call him when my hand is better
>CHEATER
>why didn't you just show us your hand after the showdown
>I wanted immediate feedback from your guys because you're my friends, can you give me $10? I will tell you how cool you are for giving me money

>>387146135
>It'd be unfair if the streamer was forced to stream
You say that like people who play local multiplayer are forced to play local multiplayer, but they aren't. It's voluntary. They are VOLUNTARILY playing next to people who can see their location, essentially shouting at the top of their lungs during a game of hide and seek.

They could be playing online or over LAN instead, but they chose to play on the same screen.

>>387146135
>essentially shouting at the top of his lungs

I wish I had the magical ability to shout and only have people who deliberately tune in to my stream hear me. This entire argument is retarded when the other person has to deliberately, with ill intent, join the stream to harass the streamer.

>>387145802

>favorite garbage game
>implying I play for any reason besides it being a fucking phenomenon at this point

The weapon mechanics are JUST good enough for me to not just drop it.

Oh kill yourself btw, you actually think some people in PUB should be given a pan and then told to just "survive" and that would be more "fun" ? Dumbfuck ? :^)

>>387146325
This is the perfect analogy. Fuck streamers and the autists who literally give them free money.

>>387140634
This fucker is correct. Who gives a shit what their retarded defenders say?

It's not cheating to stream snipe But it's against the rules so the bans are justified :^)

Why is /v/ so assblasted over this?
As if all your collective bitching is going to get them to change their mind on their current rules.

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>>387146374
>I-I don't like it, h-hehe
>k-kill yourself! y-yeah that's right

Nu Esport games are shit
Matchmaking is cancerous

>>387146423
>>387146325
>one guy constantly shows us his hands
The streamer is not forcing the stream sniper to see where he is. The stream sniper GOES OUT OF HIS WAY to see where the streamer is to gain an advantage.

For your anology to work, you'd have to tune into the live coverage on ESPN2, where they broadcast his hand to the world, and then use that information to call him when your hand is better.

And yes, it would be cheating.

Their is a fundamental disconnect here between the seemingly two sides. One side views it as entertainment, which I wholefully agree. They are maximizing their own entertainment at the cost of the streamer's and their audience, the larger the streamer, the more impact. These stream snipers have caused more butthurt and ass devastation than most will ever do for their own, and others enjoyment.

The other side also views it as entertainment, or atleast anti-entertainment. They view it as their TV show being interrupted rudely by someone ruining a scene or not taking it seriously. They view it as Game of Thrones season finale being interrupted by a fart joke.

>>387146372
You are literally just making the screen peaking comparison again.

>>387146479

I don't like it, and neither would anyone else.

Don't make video games.

>>387135320
That's a fucking awful analogy. The internet police don't sent you to internet jail for Stream Sniping, it's more like the streamer leaves his car door open and then acts surprised when it gets stolen. You're making it really easy for people to take advantage of you, if publicity is that important to you then be smart about it.

>>387146325
No.
>playing poker.
>turn around and show the onlookers my hand.
>one opponent gets up from his fucking seat, walks around behind me, and looks at my hand.
>Go to another table to avoid playing with this asshole.
>He follows you everywhere you go.

>>387146372
>anon calls out people making screen cheating comparisons
>proceeds to make screen cheating comparisons

>>387136174
well they do get their cake and they can eat it, because they ban stream snipers

:^)

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>>387146540
Nigga, I do whatever I like. You think some underaged fuck has any say over what I do?

Don't procreate.

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>>387146550
No.
>being you
>pay some random dude $5-$10 to pretend to be your friend because you can't get any

>>387146373
Prove that he is stream cheating. :)

>>387132609
stream sniping is the most absurd first world problem in a long time

all you need to do is hide identifying info on screen when streamin, how will they be able to tell it's you? or add a delay, or only stream in public matchmaking, it's a one in a million chance to meet somebody in public matchmaking that is also currently streaming and then also locating that stream

of course it's always easier to yell cheater, than to git gud

>play game of hide and seek
>use megaphone so that my friends can watch me hide
>call seeker a cheater when he finds me

>HEY EVERYONE I'M SUMMIT1G, PLEASE COME CHECK OUT MY STREAM
>WOW OMG STREAM SNIPERS BAN THESE DUDES
>WOW OMG STREAM SNIPERS AGAIN BAN THESE DUDES

>>387146539
I'm mimicking your post's format to demonstrate the similarities of stream sniping and screen peeking.

The streamer voluntarily shows his position to his twitch viewers by choosing to stream.
The person who gets screen-peeked at is voluntarily showing his position to the people around him by choosing to play on the same screen as them.

A choice is made. It gives another player the ability to see where they are. They could have just not made the choice that allowed another player to see where they are.

>>387146548
>it's more like the streamer leaves his car door open and then acts surprised when it gets stolen.
Are you retarded? Do you think that means the car thief goes unpunished? No one in this thread has said that streamers aren't retarded, but taking advantage of the retarded is generally agreed to be sociopathic.

>>387146662

Then get to it, waste your time making you shitty game that nobody will play.

Or could it be that you know nothing about actually making a fun game, and you just shitpost on /v/ ?

>>387146373
Except the streamer by his own will decided to stream for ANYONE to watch him. He is the only one to blame. Nobody else is to blame. The streamer is at fault here.
Guess what, if he wasn't streaming he wouldn't be broadcasting his location! That's fucking crazy isn't it? Omg who thought of such a thing??????

>>387146694
Fucking REKT

>>387146240
I agree with you completely and, setting aside the wayward nature of legitimately proving it, if they catch stream snipers, ban them.

But, like the sleepy man on the pavement, you are increasing your likelihood of people perpetrating the offence on you if you stream.

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>>387146828
Don't project your failures on to me, little boy.

>>387145703
>being born
>Get bombed by mudslap

>>387146548
>it's more like the streamer leaves his car door open and then acts surprised when it gets stolen.
Stealing his car is still a fucking crime. Yeah the guy's a fucking idiot for leaving his car door open, but you're still a fucking criminal for stealing it, Tyrone.

>>387146794
Not him, but once again you seem to be missing the point entirely. Screen peaking is a two way street, this is wholly a one way street.

>>387146794

You said "choosing to play on the same screen as them." like friends don't totally rip eachothers assholes apart over screen watching.

>>387146698
>Is stream sniping immoral?
>Yes, because X, Y, Z.
>But you can't prove he did it, therefore it's perfectly moral!

If I break into your house and don't get caught, it means I didn't do anything wrong according to you.

>>387144316
you're very bitter

you sound mad that people are enjoying things and you're trying to ruin their fun. you should probably just take a break from the internet.

>>387146902

I've never had such a shitty idea and then tried to defend it on /v/ so I don't know what you mean by 'projecting'

Are you okay ?

>>387147015
You are equating stream sniping to house invasion?

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Is asking children for money immoral?

>>387146985
Which just makes the situation even more unfair for the streamer, but that's not really relevant. It's unfair period, it doesn't matter whether or not it's more or less unfair than another thing.

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>>387147015
>the people against stream sniping believe it's onpar with home invasions
god bless

>>387147097

comparing and equating are different

>>387143802

>There's literally 80 stream snipers per game with totally random match making. Because everyone who's better than me must be a stream sniper, right? Don't worry, though, I report them and get them all banned. Hurr

>>387146815
>>387146969
Yeah, but this isn't real life and the worst that can happen is the devs ban your account or IP from playing their game, IF they care enough to make the effort. I have literally never heard of any repercussions for stream sniping that are more severe than this. Sniping is still a petty and shitty way to gain the upper hand, but you can't go around doing dumbfuck things and then being surprised when people use that to fuck you. In this case I find it more useful to tell the streamer to wisen up, because the snipers/car thieves of the world KNOW what they're doing is wrong and are going to do it anyway. Telling them it's bad isn't going to change their behavior, calling out streamers for being stupid might change theirs.

>>387147006
>like friends don't totally rip eachothers assholes apart over screen watching.
They do, but you still make a choice to play on the same screen as them.

What you're describing is rule enforcement. In your circle of friends, it's calling someone out for being an asshole and taking their controller so they can't play anymore. In PUBG, it's reviewing a report and banning the perpetrator.

>>387135320
This analogy only works if stealing cars was not only legal, but treated as the most basic form of social interaction. And then you had the car owner sitting on top of it ranting about how great his car is.

>>387147015
children everybody

>>387147091
Not him, you realize there's a couple of games (or even entire genres) that are based around this? Look at TCG card games. Look at roguelikes. Do you really know nothing about games?

Even your argument is far fetched and easy to avoid
>what if one player gets bad stuff all the time
Oh I don't know, save what he had last and increase a chance percentage to get something good next time?

Freshman CS? Wannabe Dev?

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this thread

>>387146851
>Except the streamer by his own will decided to stream for ANYONE to watch him.
With the understanding, as promised by the developers, that people wouldn't abuse this to harass him. He is not streaming for anyone, he is specifically streaming for everyone but his opponents. His opponents have to take the initiative to watch the stream, they are deliberately disobeying what the streamer and the devs just told them not to do. It's like if I leave my house unlocked and say anyone but that asshole Frank can come inside. If that asshole Frank comes inside I'm going to call the cops if he doesn't leave.

>Guess what, if he wasn't streaming he wouldn't be broadcasting his location! That's fucking crazy isn't it? Omg who thought of such a thing??????
>Shout "nigger" in Detroit; get shot. Shooter is innocent.

>>387146928
>be born
>get a job in a trade center
>blown up
>survive
>get job at local nightclub
>get shot
>in hospital
>can't pay for healthcare because govt is sending all their money to Saudi Arabian overlords
>surprised when you die

WOOOOW THERE WAS NOTHING I COULD DO COME ON MAN

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HOW DARE YOU INCONVENIENCE MISTER STREAMER

YOU DESERVE A BAN YOU CRIMINAL

>>387139648
>don't pay attention to traffic
>get hit by car while crossing in traffic
>blame car
>thinks this is unfair
Stream sniping is literally in the strictest sense of the conceptualization a complete and total nonissue that first world faggots complain about, because they have to do an extra step and set a delay. Fighting for something that doesn't even make sense like a mongoloid would. Don't be a god damn contrarian and think it's unfair to stream snipe when you couldn't even be fucked to follow common sense as is.

Go play in traffic you cunt.

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>>387145656
Some binoculars would be pretty rad desu. I'd value that more than any gun they might add. And the pot lid can be used to deflect bullets.

>streamer get stream sniped after advertising his stream in said game
>streamer gets player that killed him banned, under the premise that he stream sniped him, only based on the assumption because he advertised his stream and let other players know he was streaming
>people are defending this
>people are even making the comparison that the player essentially committed a home invasion in their eyes and are beyond guilty
i just want to play video games

>>387132342
Streaming is immoral. Stream sniping is god's wrath.

>>387147505
>he equates harassing, griefing, and cheating to "inconvenience"

>>387132342
stream sniping is fun as hell and pretty much the only use i get out of streams

>if you kill a streamer, you are stream sniping and you are banned
way to create a hostile and toxic gaming environment for just normal players, god forbid what would happen if a streamer got killed by another streamer