What's a franchise that got progressively worse overtime?

System Shock.

>>387110795
mass effect

>>387110795
yur mom

>>387110795
MGS

>>387110795
Not Bioshock.
2>1>3

>>387110795
Bioshock only got worse with Infinite.

>>387113340
> 2>1
can you explain ?

>>387113340
1>2>3
2 was cool but more of a "what if big daddy" expansion

>>387113493
>Dual wielding
>Better plasmid upgrades
>Better weapons
>More enemies
>Better camera
>Better melee
>Better hacking minigame
>Better tonic system
>Best daughter
>Human models actually look like people

>>387113493
Worse story for sure but better gameplay

>>387113493
>Better endings
>Plasmids had upgrades that weren't just stat upgrades
>Weapon upgrades require you to specialize
>Research camera records with video
>Better level design
>Hacking is done in a shorter minigame
>Melee weapon was better (and there's a tonic that gives you the option to specialize in plasmids and drill only)
>Dual wielding

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>>387113824
does no one remember Minerva's den?

>>387113493
2 had better gameplay than 1, but who the hell actually plays videogames for the gameplay?

>>387113824
I think the plot in 2 is better, it's more focused and relatable and doesn't rely on a plot twist. Also there are more moral decisions and endings.

>>387113797
>pretty much this
I have no idea why people wanna act like 2 is the ugly sister of the collection.

>>387113340
>expansion posing as a cash grab sequel
>better
Bioshock 2 was the Arkham Origins of Bioshock.

>>387113950
Yahtzee.

>>387110795
Pretty much all of them.

>>387113984
>Playing Bamham
Why do you think I give a shit what you think?

>>387114094
Yahtzee also said Infinite was a a good game. He's more a "comedian" than a game critic.

>>387113984
So Arkham Origins improved in a lot of things over AA and AC?

>>387113984
Asylum > Origins > City > Knight

>>387113797
you forgot those little sister sequences, which were great and would make an amazing game on their own. imagine a survival horror like that, scavenging for supplies in a place like rapture, while hiding from enemies.

>>387114373
Not him, but some people hate/dislike those sections. I mean I like those sections, but some people find it repetitive.

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Dark Souls by popular opinion.
>I hate DS1 personally and enjoy every other game in the series, and I'm fully aware i'm the only one who feels this way and that I should neck myself.

>>387110795
Autistic neckbeard autists will say otherwise but Pokemon.

>>387113950
>take big daddy escort bit from the first game
>the absolute worst fucking part of bioshock
>base entire game around that

>>387110795
sly for me

>>387114752
>Not wanting to be the best dad and kill other dads for their daughters so you can dad them as well.

>people hold up Bioshock 1 as one of the best games ever
>even though the game absolutely falls apart gameplay and plotwise after the plot twist
I don't understand. It's like people have selective memory whenever this fucking game comes up. It doesn't end at Ryan's death. The Fontaine arc ruins the game because the writers blew their load 2/3 of the way through the narrative and didn't know where to go from there.

Meanwhile the media darling hacks at Irrational aren't involved at all with the sequel, it's pumped out after, what, 2 years of dev time? Blows 1 out in every way, but people act like it's some soulless sequel that didn't need to exist.

>>387110795

1=3>2

2 is basically standalone DLC.

>>387114484
well those people can kindly go fuck themselves.

>repetitive

everything is repetitive. I don't see anyone whining about the countless generic boring forgettable fps released every year that are the same stupid shit ad naseum.

>>387117189
>even though the game absolutely falls apart gameplay and plotwise after the plot twist

This isn't true at all. Fontaine is a perfectly fine villain. You sound like you just hated that the twist was the high point of the game so you think less of the rest because of it. You are trying to see things that just aren't there. The rest of the game was fine. The gameplay was also fine.

>>387118347
>1=3
0/10

>>387118552
they basically delivered on nothing they promised. people criticize naughty dog for the last of us, but I guess most were too young too remember before bioshock 1 was released. what a disappointment.

>>387118552
The final boss though.

>>387118716
First of all TLOU came out after Bioshock 1 so wtf are you getting at here? Second of all I remember very well before Bioshock 1 was released. Unless you mean the games development. In which case I didn't know much of the plot points until I played the game myself. The setting and premise of the game before it released definitely intrigued me and in the end I ended up playing one of the best games of all time. You aren't even really saying anything. What exactly about the later part of the game wasn't good to you?
>>387118734
Sure he was really easy I'll give you that. The game in general is very easy though. Fun but definitely easy.

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>>387113739
>>387113340
Both were very similar so i understand the "stealth expansion" criticism, but i enjoyed playing 2 over the original.
First one might be seen as more atmospheric and and interesting, but a large part of it was being new. While lolmao plottwists might've been more interesting for some compared to the more cliche sequel, atleast i gave a hoot about the characters and what was going on in 2.
Preferred some music in 2 as well, weapons felt more fun to use because of bigdaddy gear, the whole getting trapped and setting traps for littlesisters wave-style gameplay was a fun way to mix up gameplay.
Also the supposedly non-disgusting humans and littlesister didn't actually look more horrifying than the deformed splicers this time.

Played them on shitbox at the time so that might've meant me getting different results from mouse/keyboard pc people.

>>387119409
The music is so much better in 2, I'm not saying 1 has bad music but 2 uses what it has way better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mS9U75YC-jA

>>387110795
basically all of them, except some rpgs

>>387119781
Then i didn't make it up.
I mostly remember reforming with your daughter and while all hell broke loose just deciding to dash to the surface while the city started collapsing and your friends dying THIS started playing: https://youtu.be/wq-gALidMMk
I never had moments where i felt things so strongly in the original.

But credits where credit is due. As a pretty experience survivalhorror guy, the first moments inside rapture with the splicers yelling and running around i was scared shitless.

>>387113912
Most people here played BS2 on PC, and PC didn't get minerva's den until much, much later

>>387110795
Your pic related and >>387112748

>>387113912
It's not that good to be honest, it relies too much on a plot twist and the worldbuilding is very poor.

>>387110795
Stalker

>>387110795
Every franchise. The only reason companies drop a franchise is when it doesn't make their bullshit amount of copies sold back.

EA.

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>>387120832
Hi