Mania Thread continued

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Remember to help out your fellow autists.

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>>387105292
Trying to figure out which game to do commentary on next before Mania comes out on PC. Should I do Sonic 4, Chaotix, or the Advance games? Are there any mods for Sonic 4 or Chaotix? Should I bother recording Tails and Knuckles with the remake of 1 and 2?

Sonic 3 Complete (working on Knuckles): https://youtu.be/UTBZ4y-MHaQ
Sonic 2 (Remake): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6I1TC5sKag
Sonic CD (Steam): https://youtu.be/WK3VFegjaOo
Sonic 1 (Remake): https://youtu.be/AkiKcO4wjuo

>>387105331
fuck off cybershell

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Post based remixes Sonic bros
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elIPv9DycWs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmV4yrG9iMo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_eO8bL2bbA
Why is that Sonic Drift 2 Options Theme so fucking good?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nw7usYYTaU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9ewJDYoC1Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FM7BFcLun_0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiD7Cp1yWHw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuQgASITArA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-z0_t0h1CI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gr1ou9vGJg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gPdYQRekn8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLzmQ9XHHvg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZYLjz-3as8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNijmsOCn5g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYk_9ULA6sE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oncw93EoS1I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pjqG3CQZpc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMS0fFY16rg

>>387106021
Even if it is him at least his videos are fun to watch. At least his isn't shilling bad videos. Though I'm more prone to believe someone posts it just to get people riled up.

Well this was just posted, gonna watch.

https://youtu.be/MPc7ZAaKYkk

Should I just buy Mania on PS4 or wait for the PC release?

>>387106392
If you have a PS4 then why even wait for the PC release?

>>387106346
Sonic Advance 3 is a game that is full of great ideas but some of the execution is unfortunately lacking.

I think Sunset Hill and Toy Factory are the best zones in that game.

>>387106460
I dunno, I figured maybe the PC version had some kind of advantage or benefit over the console one.

>>387106392
PS4, obviously. Only buy the PC version if there's no Denuvo.

>>387106159
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4voLtAZFJk

>>>/vg/
You've overstayed your welcome

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How are you holding up?

>>387105331
>>387106176

1) Cybershell's audience isn't going to pay to support cybershell
2) Regular videos instead of just when he has good ideas for a video, you're going to see a drop in quality pretty quickly

>>387105987
Make a light script and rehearse. Doesn't need to be major work intensive stuff but any sort of prep helps.

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Where the fuck is Shaq anon? If he doesn't show I'll fucking cancel my preorder.

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>>387106392
Well that depends doesn't it? If you play most of your Sonic games on PC I'd just wait to keep stuff together and play other games in the meantime. Otherwise get the PS4 version I doubt the game will be very taxing on it and should play fine. Though you'll kick yourself if there are good mods in the future.

>>387106581
Only when New Vegas threads are moved there first.

>>387106537
kek the only advantage PCbros are getting is the Sonic 1 rom if they preorder

get fucked pcfags
hope you learned your lesson :^)

This is getting fucking annoying stop making these threads every hour.

Get the fuck outta here

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>>387106585
not too well desu senpai
I've been cycling through Sonic games as fast as I can go for the last week

>>387106346
Sonic Advance 3 could have been there perfect Sonic party game if it was released on a console.

I really want to see another game like it with better level design and the ring acceleration gone.

>>387106615
No, the more you work and make the better your stuff gets overall.

>>387106746
I know you just rolled over from reddit but it's one thread and you have filters. Learn how to use them.

>>387106346
J sucks, he's too biased in all of his reviews. You can clearly tell he's just sucking Advance 3's dick in this entire video.

Retropolis Zone is a lot better, only bad thing about him is he barely uploads.

is it possible to skip the preload time on the ps4? i wanna play mania

>>387106831
Retropolis Zone is god tier, but I think Js Reviews are really good considering how quickly he releases them.

>>387106346
Maybe Taxman and Stealth can bring some of these ideas back if they ever decide to do Sonic Advance Mania.

>>387106585
good, getting set up for tonight with a friend for coop

>>387106797
Worked for egoraptor

When does It come out on the switch?

>>387107296
Midnight

>>387107276
This is assuming you aren't purposefully taking a cynical approach to making stuff.

Not gonna lie, former Mania supporter here. This is fucking hilarious watching Mania crash and burn. But in all seriousness we can't let this game get good reviews.

>>387107296
I'm pretty sure it's a midnight release for everything

>>387106797
That rule only applies if you WANT to make the stuff. If you're just forcing yourself to do it for money then you become Arin and next thing you know Cybershell will swear off Sonic games forever.

LESS THAN 24 HOURS UNTIL NINTENDO ESHOP MANIA LAUNCH.

IT'S HAPPENING BROS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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>>387106159
https://youtu.be/sml3eziB5D0
https://youtu.be/MUcgP8IAa4E
https://youtu.be/dJ1w0UQoxb8

https://youtu.be/E3PecRwbZg4

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>>387107375
The first time I listened to Infinite's Theme, I'd immediately denounce it as "Linkin Park shit".
Now the song is stuck in my fucking head and I can easily remember the song despite listening to it about three times.

>>387107362
>>387107445
Really? Remember we're talking about Nintendo here.

would buy it, but I never could get into classic sonic games. Just isn't fun to me to just to go super fast and bonk a few enemies

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>>387107490
>>387106159
You two are the only ones of your kind left.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVxZs87a6Ik

>My emulator ran out of batteries
Is this guy based or what?

>>387107634
Nintendo always launches their own games on Midnight EST, I've been buying digital games day 1 since 2012 but never bought a third-party game. I hope it'll remain true.

>>387107634
It's already on the eshop, you're already able to download the game if you've got a code, and the timer runs out at midnight tomorrow, even Nintendo couldn't fuck this one up

>>387107375
I forgot about the 100 celsius computer

>>387106585
>Brawl hype

I didn't need to be reminded of this.
But I am indeed hyped for Mania.

>>387106585
>still playing those old shits
ha, sm4sh is best until sma5h.

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>>387106585
I'm good. Are we streaming the OVA tommorow before release?

>>387107719
Understandable, but it certainly helps when you look at the games as messing with physics in a bunch of different situations.

I like Infinite's theme.

I have it on my phone and listen to it everyday while I have my daily jog.

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>Told that speed is a reward for playing well
>Every time I go fast something comes out of the blue to hit me
>Only time I get to go fast is when I trudge along and carefully get 50 rings to go Super Sonic
I must suck

>>387108713
The old games are meant to be played multiple times. You come to know what to expect and anticipate it so you can fast.

>>387106585
Sonic OVA is a necessary watch for anyone that needs to waste time until release

>>387108995
Press Garden is best level.

>>387107719
It's less about that and more about inertia and using curves and slopes to build up momentum.
In the end the speed is mostly a puzzle key used to go high vertically, not the end all

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>>387109147
The second act makes me think of Freedom Planet.

>>387109147
Especially Act 2. I kinda wish the whole thing was a snow level.

Are you going to speedrun Sonic Mania, /v/?

>>387109319
I'll definitely do the time trials

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sucks having to wait two more weeks but welp im not buying a console just to play this
but hey have a sonic i just drew

>>387109379
Nice drawing

>>387109379
Good shit, anon.

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>>387109379
Pretty good, anon

>>387109147
The bouncing around in Act 1 just seems way too fun to me. Fuck, I want to hear the theme too

>>387107721
>He doesn't know

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>>387109379

What is Press Garden exactly? A Japanese garden that's also a paper printing facility?

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I'm afraid of reviews. I know it was a critical darling at E3 but I still have a feeling that critics are going to be hard on the game. I mean fuck, they thought Lost World was hard.

>>387109669
It's where they print the paperwork for Denuvo's licensing agreements

>>387108995
So many factories.
Chemical Plant, Press Garden, Oil Ocean, Mechanical Madness.
I love it

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>>387109669
Printing Press - Flower Pressing - Flower Garden

>>387109691
Lost World was pretty unfair later on. They had to patch the game to be more forgiving.

>>387109691
Daily reminder that the rest of the world is different from /v/ and you'd be surprised.

Do reviews come out today?

>>387109816
I see. Thanks

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>Mfw this games press coverage at launch is them MASSIVELY fucking over anybody planning to play the game on PC and it's soon to be lukewarm at best reception
>Mfw Forces sells better, is received better, and is remembered as being better
Mania and the infant careers of the fan game devs who made it can burn for all I care at this point

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>there will never, ever be a good night level in sonic again

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>>387109235

>>387109940
>MASSIVELY
2 weeks sucks especially for people hoping to go in blind but that's no massive fuck over. We've waited over 20 years for this game already

>>387105292
They need to hire Taxman and his team to program Classic Sonic physics for Mania.

>>387109940
Well fuck you too then.

>>387109940
All according to Sega's keikaku.

They can't let some amateur gaijins steal the spotlight from the main team.

>>387110039
>Large amount of Sonic Mania's potential buyers can no longer go in blind when they've clearly made it a selling point by revealing maybe less than half of the game pre launch and cracking down on leakers
Fuck you, you mindless drone.

>>387110046
We'll be lucky if Taxman gets to work on a Sonic game after Mania tbqh

>>387109940
Still laughing at you

>>387110129
I noticed that too.

They revealed way too much.

>>387110129
> /v/ is a large amount of potential buyers.
This place believes it's own hype too much.

>>387109948
Still waiting for a night club zone

>>387109948
This level was an unmitigated disaster a

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>>387109980
I don't really know what he is expressing in that picture.

>>387109948
*cough* cough* Studiopolis Zone

>>387110275
he thought he had more popcorn

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>Something like 70% of /v/ was planning on playing on PC in a strawpoll way before the delay announcement
>Nearly 40% of the (remaining) posters after the announcement of the delay said they were no longer going to be purchasing Sonic Mania
>T-This is fine, who cares about P-PCbros anyway
Isn't buying into the hype so hard you'll justify literally any shitty choice thats made for the game the sort of thing /v/irgins hate?

>>387110269
i disagree because the aesthetic was fuckin great
>>387110315
no that was set at dusk(?) and act 2 was set inside a build (from what I remember)
i'm talking levels with stars in the sky, the real good and comfy shit, like Unleashed except it's fast

Any unlockables other than peel out, insta shield, & knuckles?

>>387110237
>/v/ is a large amount of potential buyers.
Not remotely said anywhere in my posts.

>>387110489
Debug, and better things to come because Mark has only gotten silver medals. We don't know what golds do.

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I need to hear clean rips of Studiopolis Act 2 and Lava Reef Act 2 right now. So god tier.

>tfw reviews will start to pop up today

Last two digits are Mania's metascore

>>387109568
W-what?

>>387110220
They should have only shown the remixed old zones in promotional material and surprised us with the new 4. Leading us to believe it was going to have a substantial amount of new zones was a retarded move on their part.

>>387109379
How did he get on top of a tv box without breaking it? Shit drawing 0/10 completely unrealistic ruined my immersion.

sonic was never good

>>387110532
You're going on about how the leak will hurt Mania. Just cause it spilled like a waterfall here and several other sites doesn't mean that many people were watching it or were around to see the spoilers. Hell, I wouldn't even be here either if I wasn't so fascinated by how much of a social shitshow this place is.

>>387110770
>70
Sounds about right. My last 2 digits are Forces.

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>>387110839
Fuck off you saucy faggot. I'm tired of shitty fucking namefags like you ruining /v/

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>1 day for console versions
>15 days for the PC version

>>387110770
>70
This was correct because of the rehashed Act 1s.

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A criticism I see posted a lot was that there should have been at least one more new level. It's not a gamebreaker for me, but I agree. Other than the Heavy on Lava Reef, all of the other Hardboiled Heavies were fought in new levels, and those levels had something in them that had a related theme with the boss.

The question is, assuming that you HAD to have 12 levels (DONT GO TOO FARU, MANIA CHIMU) which level would you drop for a new one?

>>387110770
GamesRadar - 40
"I had 12 Game Overs in Oil Ocean Zone, Sonic has become Dark Souls."

>>387110770
I expect scores in the 80s or 90s.

>>387110875
did i say you could reply to me?

>>387110789
I'm just messing with ya.

>>387110867
>You're going on about how the leak will hurt Mania.
Nice reading comprehension. I literally never said that.
I mentioned them pushing back the PC launch two weeks and Mania potentially getting lukewarm reviews (at best).

>>387110839
And if you disagree, you can call the cops

>>387110912
I would've liked a circus/magic themed level for the magician Heavy instead of just plopping him in Mirage Saloon.

toot toot sonic warrior

>>387110925
You'll get 84 and like it

>>387110912
Metallic Madness obviously.

>>387110917
You know, as much as this was a joke, I'm sure as fuck that there will be at least two reviews complaining about how the game gets way too hard later on.

>>387110912
The only zone that looks boring to me is Press Garden. I guess second place would be Oil Ocean so I'd drop it.

>>387110996
It makes sense with the name mirage T/B/H

>>387110962
Sorry, I'm used to anons here being blind sheep level of singleminded so I thought you were by proxy referring to the leak as well. As for the PC version? Gonna be completely honest with you, if the delay really is for DRM, that makes the sole reason for getting the PC version too much of a pain in the ass to be worth it.

>>387110912
There will be more levels coming, DLC or not.
Screencap this.

>>387110912
Any chance we will see the heavies in Forces? I liked to see them in 3D.

>>387110996
And we wished the knight heavy would get it's own stage, Manian Team just can't go too frar, ya know

>>387110996
Saloons are known for their entertainment including magicians though.

I mean, a magician or prostitute themed heavy would be the two that made the most sense for a saloon thematically.

>>387110912
Drop Oil Ocean for Mystic Cave and place it after Lava Reef.

>>387111189
ROBOT
ASS

>>387111089
Only the Act 1 looks boring. I loved the Act 2.

>>387111169
Game needs to sell a shit ton for them to have another go and make something much more original, which honestly I bet it will. Some people in these threads act way too hopeless about this shit.

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>>387110770
NOT TOO FAR MANIA TEAMU
70 IS ENOUGH

why is infinite considered a parody character in a series with unironic villains named stuff like chaos and shadow

Cant believe chrome gadget made into sonic mania

>>387111189
They're saving the prostitute for Sonic Man-in-ya.

do i get a star on the pun board

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>>387111189
how about a gunslingin' cowboy

>>387105292
I haven't been interested in a Sonic game since Heroes came out. I've missed him.

>>387111398
I was expecting a cowboy Heavy for Mirage Saloon actually.

>>387110996
>tweak Magician heavy into a stage performer and put him in Studiopolis
>tweak Gunner heavy into a sheriff and put him in Mirage Saloon

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>>387111321
>a new review bumps the metascore to 71

>>387111286
Is it that unwise to be hopeless about sonic?

>>387111324
It's a combination of thinking that the rest of Sega is as self-aware as the American marketing team, and desperately hoping Sega isn't retarded enough to pull another Mephiles

Who here /pirate/

>>387106615
>Cybershell's audience isn't going to pay to support cybershell
He already has $600

>>387111484
I'm glad they didn't do this. What we have now is still theme appropriate and less on the nose.

What zones would a Mania 2 even be able to bring back? They've exhausted all the popular ones and even scraped up some unpopular ones like Oil Ocean.
Ice Cap is the only popular stage left and that's wrapped up in legal issues

>>387111582
Rock on that means he can afford a place with $200 rent.

>>387111512
Because Mania wasn't made by Sonic Team and instead by a group of huge Sonic fans that have shown plenty of times they know more about the classic momentum based gameplay then anyone at current Sonic Team. That's why you shouldn't be hopeless.

>>387111324
Because after a theme like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKjOJuPjiu4
and an intro like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mn6uqp_mr98
It'd better be fucking ironic otherwise we have a villain somehow edgier than goddamn Mephiles

>>387111605
Just make new levels

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>>387111605
ALL NEW ZONES, BABY

>>387111669
I think it's going to be good from what I've seen, but that says nothing about the sales. I don't know if classic sonic can survive in the modern market

>>387111605
I want spooky Mystic Cave. But if there's a Mania 2 I rather prefer 100% original zones to prove their worth.

>>387111605
I'd like Mania 2 to be all original. Make a real Sonic 4.

>>387111605
Master System and Game Gear levels. Also, take one of the Sonic 3 Versus levels and reimagine it as a single player level.

>>387111726
Classic Sonic is timeless.

Is Iizuka the same fucker who said the boost gameplay was a failed experiment despite the fact colors and generations were the best received games in years or was that somebody else.

>>387106634
>>387107490
I searched Sonic Mania in the catalog and nothing came up so I started a thread. Some kind anon directed me too this thread.

>>387111605
id hope for ms/gg stages with new stages like mania

>>387110831
Walk jump bug

>>387111860
Iizuka is the reason Sonic completely changes gameplay systems game after game. He has no idea what he wants.

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>>387111504
Now Iizuka will retaliate by making Classic Sonic shit in Forces so people are led to believe Classic Sonic sucks.

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>>387111862
Wonder who that was?

What's the difference between Sonic for MS and Sonic for Game Gear?

>>387111169
I have a feeling that Knight heavy had some sort of level planned as a castle-lava level in the vein of Marble Zone, to serve as a contrast to Ninja heavy and the Japan-ice level with Press Garden, but for some reason they scrapped it and threw Kinght Heavy into the most lava related zone to try and salvage some of the theme.

>>387112007
resolution

>>387112007
The GG version was first while the MS version was a port.

>>387112029
I think they probably just drew up the heavies and their fights before finalizing the zones

>Sonic Lost World was "What if we revived that concept from the cancelled Saturn game, and modernized it with some parkour" and was pretty bad
>Mania is "What if we had literally just made another genesis Sonic with Saturn tech" and isn't very good either
Can we just admit the Saturn wasnt good once and for all or does Sega need to try one more time?

>>387110984
*a few days later after some nagging from the boss*

Sup guys, so here we are playing some good ol' Sonic, in the classic Green Hill Zone from Sonic 2

>>387112105
>isn't very good either
Fucking says you, cunt

>>387111605
Does Mania establish what islands Studiopolis, Mirage Saloon, and Press Garden take place on?

I'd guess West Island given how many zones from it we visit.

>>387109379
What a wholesome post, anon.

>>387112105
Mania is looking pretty great.

>>387112105
I don't get any impression at all that Lost World was inspired by Xtreme. This was an assumption when the game was revealed, but really, they were just trying to make a Mario Galaxy-esque Sonic game.

>>387112105
>Lost World was bad because Sonic Team couldn't design a game to save their lives
>Mania is turning out pretty fuckin good I don't know what he meant by this
Sonic X-Treme always looked bad though, that fisheye lens makes me want to vomit

Mania 2 potential characters
>Amy
>Fang
>Metal Sonic
>Vector
>Mighty
pick two

>>387112029
Maybe they couldn't think of any gimmicks for the stage that weren't used in any other?

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>>387110868
>Mania beating Forces by 2

MMMMRRAAAAAAAANIAAAAA TEEEEEEEEEAAAAAMU

>>387112105
Lost World wasn't based on Sonic X-Treme. It was based on Super Mario Galaxy through and through.

>>387112379
Metal Sonic and Amy, I'm not a big fan of the others. I'm not even a huge fan of Amy but I feel she messes better with the core cast than any Chaotix character.

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>>387112029
This has potential to be it's own zone but wasted on Press Garden Act 1's background.

>>387112379
fang and metal because theyre already in the game

>>387112493
That means it is its own zone

>>387112105
Saturn was good, but the idea that Sonic X-treme would have able to save the system is just a shitty meme and it would have played like garbage even if it hadn't been delayed endlessly.

Every video that's been released of it looks like ass, and the more we learn about its development the more of a clusterfuck it seems it would have been. Between the stinkers that were Chaotix and 3D Blast, I have little faith that X-treme would have been anything but a disappointment.

>>387112379
Metal and Fang, Vector would be fine too I guess

>>387112547
Makes me glad that Sonic Adventure was Sonic's first 3D outing.

>>387112379
I'd add Amy and... Fang? I'd like Vector but I don't think he'd work well alone too well without Espio and Charmy.

>>387112379
Amy and Fang

>>387112379
Amy and Metal.
Amy because she was pretty fun in advance and Metal because he's fucking cool.

>>387112338
Fisheye was clever and looked pretty cool desu.

>>387112547
Chaotix and 3D Blast were both decent.

>>387112379
Would rather Fang come back as a recurring boss honestly.

>>387112703
>Chaotix and 3D Blast were both decent.
Get some standards, anon. I bet you think Shadow was decent and 06 gets too much hate as well.

>>387112540
I want a cathedral, not some shitty printing company.

>>387106585

Is it literally 24 hours? Or is it going to unlock around noon?

>>387112761
No those are both terrible. Like your taste.

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>>387111672
Am I the only one who thinks Infinite could be kind of cool? His theme reeks of edge but his character seems more sophisticated and articulate than edgy.

>>387111605
dinosaur jungle.

>>387112775
Wait for the Mansion stage

>>387112862

Yes, you are

>>387112703
Chaotix didn't need to have five acts a zone and the ring tether mechanics frustrate more then be fun, plus the good ending is barely an ending.
3D Blast was fine. Like Chaotix the music owned.

>>387112862
I wouldn't know. I can't will myself to watch the video to begin with.

>>387111605
Beach level from Adventure. Mystic Cave, Star Light, dinosaur level or the pirate ship one from Secret Rings, tons of stuff from Rush or Advance. There's plenty of material to mine.

>>387112703
Chaotix had great ideas but the level design was bad. Sonic 3D Blast was just boring.

If you want good Sonic games from that era not on the Genesis, its best to look to Game Gear.

>>387112862
He's cool to 15 year old boys. Ironically(?) edgy to everyone else.

>>387112862
I think he looks fine.

>>387112862
I like Infinite. There's something about Infinite that makes him more special than Shadow.

>>387112862
he's sophisticated in the same way the lyrics of all hail shadow are

>>387112862
I like his theme but only because it genuinely sounds totally out of this era. You could tell me it was from Shadow and I'd believe you

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>>387112980
>3D Blast is boring
>play Game Gear!

>>387112379
shadow and silver

Mania's cool and all, but is there any reason this needs to be made a separate branch of the franchise rather than just a subseries for Modern Sonic.

>>387112775
fuck you, I like it
It's like the company took over a rundown cathedral and turned it into what it is today

> Mania 2 comes out
> Lots of rehashed old levels
> 3 new levels
> Amy is playable with all her hammer gimmicks from Advance

OR

> Mania 2 comes out
> 3 rehashed levels
> majority are new
> Metal Sonic is playable
> No Chaos Emeralds

Which do you prefer?

>>387113083
The gameplay systems are too different. Classic Sonic and Modern Sonic are basically two game franchises at this point.

>>387113083
How are those two situations any different? The only thing anyone here wants is for the Mania team to keep making classic games with more creative freedom

>>387113120
I would prefer
>Sonic Mania 2 comes out at all

>>387113120
The second option.

>>387113120
Obviously the second one, not even a question

>>387113120
>A classic Sonic game without Chaos Emeralds
Now that's just sacrilege.

>>387113120
>Amy playable
>Metal Sonic playable
wew, can I pick neither?

>>387113160
>>387113161
But I don't see why they couldn't just make Modern Sonic play like Classic Sonic.

>>387113120
Depends on how long the 2nd option is. If it's just 5 new, 3 rehashed, then eh. But if it's at least 9 new, 3 rehashed, then I'll be fine with it

>>387106585
I have off this week. It's going to be a good week.

>>387113083
No. It's a desperate compromise being necessarily made with stupid people.

Classic/modern Sonic should be the same damn character. Just expressed differently.

>>387113120
Amy stays a stage gimmick and Metal Sonic stays a villain.

Three characters is enough, if you want Sonic and friends go play the modern games.

>>387112862
You only like him because of his voice. I don't really blame you for that though.

>>387113309
They can't figure out how to make the momentum based physics from the classic games work in a 3D engine. It's too difficult for them to do so they don't try.
Though the guys that made Sonic Utopia seem to be having success. I'm interested in seeing more of that game.

>>387113312
At that point, why even put in rehashes?
9 unique levels is enough for a full title.

>>387113368
Then wouldn't it be superior to just make another Advance styled game?

Not like Advance 2

>>387113120
The second option obviously, but I don't see why it wouldn't have Emeraldos to collect

>>387112775
maybe don't buy into a baseless submeme next time

>>387113453
Did you see the autistic reaction here to having "only" 12 levels in Mania?

Those fags would shitpost endlessly if the number of levels decreased, even if it meant that we got more original levels.

>>387113424
They did it in Sonic Adventure, which is how Sonic in Utopia handles (only with less air friction).

I was saying just make another 2D Sonic with the classic physics.

>>387112862
Put me inthe screencap

>>387111605
They should just do the reverse of Mania and have 8 new levels and 4 classic ones
>Scrap Brain
>Mystic Cave
>Tidal Tempest
>Ice Cap

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>>387111605
Hopefully 100% new levels but if they have to dip back into the past, I think it'd be cool if they made 2d versions of levels from 3d games. Also stuff from Advance. Give me Music Plant god dammit.

>>387112862
I think it'll be interesting to see what his deal is. We haven't had a Sonic game that took itself seriously since Unleashed.

>>387113690
HAHAHAHAHA BLUNDER OF THE CENTURY

CLASSIKEKS ON SUICIDE WATCH

>>387112821
Midnight on PS4, don't know about Xbox or Switch.

Have Taxman and Stealth even played Advance?

Why is it so hard for Modern Sonic to be strictly 3D? A majority of his stages feature 2D platforming and shit. Give Lost Worlds hate all day long but it had some proper Modern gameplay.

>>387113830
Of course they have

>>387113368
Except that it's been a while that Sonic is the only playbale character in a modern game sadly.

>>387113861
$

>>387113690
>no "- sonic was never good"

>>387113861
But even that had a fair number of 2D sections.

>>387113925
Stop shilling your thread.

>>387113579
I haven't seen those posts, I can imagine they were more salty about the new/rehash ratio though.
I see the contention in having less levels than S3&K but if you can make 8 or 9 focused and well developed stages then I don't see the problem. S3&K can feel a bit long at times whereas S2 feels just right. Quality over quantity and all that.

>insta-shield
>super peel-out
>debug mode
>sonic and knuckles mode
>mean bean mode
Do we know any other unlockables?

>>387113861
I hope you realize Sonic is not the only series to do this. Even 3D Mario games have 2D Sections since Galaxy now. Even Odyssey coming up has 2D Sections with those segments where you go into the wall.

>>387114195
Not yet because Mark is absolute trash at this game. He hasn't even shown off Super Sonic gameplay in regular stages so I'm starting to wonder if Super forms are usable in game at all. He's currently playing Knuckles mode who apparently has his own level layout differences.

>>387113861
Budgeting and increasing the length of the game

>>387114161
I feel sorry for you m8

>>387114195
Probably boss rush mode in it somewhere.

>>387114195
No.
I imagine one of the unlocks is a level select for blue spheres.

>>387111605
No need, make a Ristar 2 instead.

Honest classic Sega platforming without the autistic fanbase or jealous Sonic Team to get in the way.

>>387113746
They really can go about this in many ways. Gameplay wise I think Forces thus far looks very weak, so I'm hoping the story is somewhat engrossing to keep me playing.
Might not pick it up at all but we'll see.

>>387114195
Mark barely has any gold medals, which most likely having a lot of unlocks more things.

>>387114298
He already showed Super Sonic in regular stage, the only big question left now is about the super form for Knuckles and Tails.

>>387114298
Other than Green Hill Act 1 and Mirage Saloon Act 1 were there more level differences?

>>387114495
Hope not, I could never perfect the Sonic & Knuckles layouts

Aaron said to expect huge Sonic Forces news after Mania releases, what info do you bros expect?

>>387114195
I saw a fairly correct leak before Mark showed up and it mentioned a playable Amy
Keeping fingers crossed they were telling the truth and didn't just make super lucky guesses

>>387114559
Hopefully more interesting level design than we've seen

>>387114559
Probably some more levels? They've only shown Green Hill and Park Avenue so far.

>>387114559
Chemical Plant reveal but with a TWIST.

>>387114543
Knuckles has a new intro, and his Green Hill Act 1 starts out in a different place.

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>>387114658
Shut the fuck up.
No more Green Hill and Chemical Plant.

>>387114559
Unboxing the Sonic Forces new Collectors Edition

P.S. The game's also delayed on PS4 because we don't want it leaked on Xbone

>>387114559
They have lock on with each other like how 3&K did.

>>387114741
Well Chemical Plant is gonna be in Forces. The talking head dialog mentions it.

>>387114559
More interesting level concepts.

>>387114741
Silver literally said "I'll go check the Chemical Plant" which implies it's in the game and probably fucked up thanks to Infinite.

>>387114658
INSTEAD OF CHEMICALS, IT'S WATER!!

>>387114741
Not him but I like to think that it's fine to have the same levels but different layouts. Imagine if Sonic was in the Green Hill biome but wasn't on the track it's known for.

>>387114710
I knew that but was that it?

>>387109147
For the last time the leak was fake. It's called Sakura Synagogoge.

>>387114895
I'm fine with it if they pull it off well. Green Hill or Chemical Plant Act 2 in Mania are done super well, but what we've seen of Green Hill in Forces has been uninteresting

Alright so what even is Infinite, people keep saying it's the pink gem from Mania but the damn thing has a red aura.

And secondly what is it's powers? Is it literally an OC version of Time Eater because it can seemingly pull things from specific points in time, which explains why Shadow is evil again or whatever. And it looks like the stages are altered quit a bit, Green Hill has sand everywhere.

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>>387114989
>somehow, against absolutely all odds, the mark leaks were fake and the sakura synogogue leak was real

>>387114867
>Green Hill (but this time the water is sand and half the grass is dead)
>Chemical Plant (again, and probably in ruins)
>Park Avenue (Rooftop Run but in ruins)

They really need to wow us with some more zones.

>>387114963
That's what I saw personally. To me this indicates that the rest of the stages are at least a little different too.

>>387114609
Got a link to that leak? If it didn't mention Oil Ocean and Metal Madness, the two surprise zones no one expected, you can probably just throw it in the trash.

>>387105292
9 9
DON'T FALL BEHIND

>>387115060
I want to live in this reality. I'd laugh so hard.

>>387107553
We've got until 9am PST on the 15th dude

>>387115060
That would be pretty funny wouldn't it

>>387114993
Yeah...Here's hoping the levels beyond are less copypasta.

>>387107553
Or if you got your Switch CE already, you could've played it days ago.

>>387115165
8 8
SAY DON'T BE LATE

>>387115097
It was another random post in one of the Sonic Mania Hype threads

I think it got Metallic Madness but don't quote me

>>387115395
Go look it up in the archive for me, sissy boy.

https://boards.fireden.net/v/

>>387115073
I have some ideas.

-Texas Ranch level, you can even have a rodeo boss.
-An airport themed level

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>>387106585
Getting it for the Switch tomorrow night.
>mfw Nintendo mainly works on PST time, so it won't be out until 3 AM EST

>>387115331
7 6
DESTINATION: HEAVEN

http://archiveofourown.org/works/11798901

http://archiveofourown.org/works/11778270

>>387115475
Do you know if other e-shop like the asian one get an update around the same time ?

>>387115475
I'm getting the Collectors Edition so I...I...HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL THURSDAY TO GET IT

>>387115462
>Rodeo Range Zone
>Air Junction Zone
I like it

>>387115462
>beehive level
>library level
>fruity jungle level

What if the final boss of Sonic Forces is Black Heart?

>>387112703
Fisheye looked cool as fuck. In practice, I have no fucking idea why they designed the game around a fixed camera, Bug! style.
and the fisheye really looked like it fucked with knowing where the hell you were going, despite you being able to see so much

>>387113120
these options suck
majority new stages would be the better one though

>>387113368
>go play the modern games.
Mate, the most recent Sonic games until Mania with a not-Sonic playable character are Rush Adventure (with Blaze, from ten years ago), arguably Sonic Unleashed (werehog, from nine years ago) and Sonic 4 (Episode Metal, from five years ago), and no one but literal retards complain about the other characters in say, Sonic Advance.

>>387111605
the Sonic 3 competition levels
I still want fucking Chrome Gadget as an actual stage.

>>387115562
If you're getting it from Amazon, you can bitch at support hard enough and they'll up you to 1 day shipping.

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>>387115060
Mark would go from bumbling moron to 4th dimensional rusemaster in like 10 seconds

Have Mark played through the debug mode yet? I want to see if there's any unused objects.

>>387115595
A fruity jungle is basically GG Jungle Zone from Sonic 1.

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>>387107553
Serious fucking question, guys:
Is it worth getting a Switch for Mania? Are there any worthwhile games currently out if I did?
I'm sort of interested in Odyssey down the line but have otherwise no interest in any Switch titles to my knowledge.

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>>387115690
Nope, worse. Gamestop.

>>387115718
Forget Mark, he's not playing it tonight and the game comes out at midnight for everyone anyway. His ten seconds of fame are already done.

>>387115784
Pull a General Public and wait for dat Holiday Season rush if you're gonna get it at all at this point.

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I'm so fucking ready guys, I just wish midnight could come sooner

>>387115914
In that case I can just wait the two weeks for PC release. So what I take away from your post is that a Switch isn't worth full price at this point in time.

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>>387114831
>>387114876
AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH WHAT THE FUCK NO MORE GREEN HILL NO MORE CHEMICAL PLANT NO MORE STARDUST NO MORE CITY THEMES NO MORE GRASSY PARADISE THEMES NO MORE BINGO THEMES NO MORE FUCKING REUSING STAGES THAT HAVE BEEN REUSED FOR THE PAST SEVENTEEN YEARS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>387115953
>mfw i am in japan right now so I'll get it at comfy 4pm

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>>387116073
Yes anon, that's exactly what I meant. Knock yourself out.

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>>387115487
You fucked it up

>>387116143
The sarcasm doesn't help.

>>387115784
Zelda and Puyo Puyo Tetris are the only games I've gotten significant time out of. Splatoon is a popular one but it doesn't appeal to me. Bomberman isn't bad but it's really overpriced for how much content it has. Unless one or more of those really appeal to you it might be worth waiting.
Its definitely worth picking up at some point though imo, down the line it's getting Odyssey, a mainline Pokemon, Prime 4, a new Kirby, and both Fire Emblem Warriors a traditional FE game. Also Smash Bros at some point is all but inevitable.

How long exactly until the game is out on console?

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POST YOUR IDEAS FOR SONIC ZONES
>Fast Fleet Zone
>Group of Battleships for a Zone, you jump from ship to ship as they pass through and get destroyed
>Act 2, get to go on an Aircraft Carrier and the stage becomes a mix of the previous Act plus Sky Chase Zone. Some segments you're flying in the sky, some segments you land for platforming

>Icicle Orion Zone
>You're in a frozen universe
>The cosmos are platforms

>>387116431
7 n half hours here ps4

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>>387116520
Much appreciated.

>>387116492
>>Fast Fleet Zone
>>Group of Battleships for a Zone, you jump from ship to ship as they pass through and get destroyed
You literally described Egg Fleet from Sonic Heroes

Heroes has great zones.

> Level based on Nights and Ristar are in Forces

How would you feel?

>>387116670
Save it for Mania 2

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>>387116520
WHAT THE FUCK, WHERE DO YOU LIVE

>>387116670
My dick would blow off.

>>387116520
How is it possible ? It won't even be midnight in Japan ?

>>387116670
Sonic Team won't be that creative.

>>387116592
It's criminal how Egg Fleet wasn't in Generations.

>>387116708
Australia
>>387116763
that's what it says on my home screen 7 hours 16 mins

>>387116520
im moving to wherever you live anon
please tell me where you live
please

Why hasn't SEGA tried an open world Sonic game?

>>387116975
They aren't THAT desperate yet.

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>>387116670
>yfw Mania 2 is a big SEGA crossover
>plot stars Eggman getting villains from other dimensions to stop Pint Sized Sonic, which ends up making all the SEGA dimensions cross with each other
>stages from Ristar, Hatsune Miku: Project DIVA, NiGHTS, Vector, Bayonetta, Billy Hatcher, Puyo Puyo, Yakuza, Super Monkey Ball, PSO, Valkyria Chronicles, SEGA Hard Girls/Neptunia, Altered Beast and Jet Set Radio
>yfw Shibuya-Cho Zone
>yfw Spring Valley Zone
>yfw Planet Flora Zone
>yfw SEGA Climax Zone, all the villains come together to stop Sonic as the act 3 finalboss
I would be so fucking hyped. It's a good way to introduce new types of zones as well.

>>387116975
Sonic gameplay should never be longer than five-minute bursts.

>>387116763
Japan doesn't even get it until the 16th.

>>387117031
This would be extremely hype my man, good taste.

Also where the fuck is this pint sized sonic meme coming from? Is that what we call Mania sonic since muh other dimension business?

>>387116975
They got close with the Legend of Zelda level for Lost World, but apparently they decided to just do more boostshit for Forces.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcqwFtF3lxU

>>387117031
It's a direct sequel to Forces where the fight with Infinite got so intense reality is breaking apart to allow the crossover to exist

>>387106537
I'd be very surprised if the PS4 struggled to run Sonic Mania.

How would an open world Sonic game even work? It could take the Odyssey route and throw in multiple worlds with expansive areas. Or Sega could hit fuck it and go the comic route and essentially have us traverse Mobius.

>>387116492
Crystal Chase Zone
>Quartz Quadrant except it's in the sky, relatively comfy aesthetic, Act 1 boss is chasing Robotnik (obviously)
>Act 2 you fall to the ground, which is when a few more Quartz Quadrant elements show up, Act 2 boss is just running through the mines a la Lava Reef

>>387117075
On Switch i dont think so
If the games is available on midnight PST, that means, it will be available on the fifth

>>387117102
>pint sized sonic meme
It's literally just from one autist.

>>387117230
*fifteenth

>tfw no leak on pc

>>387117214
I like to explore the world from Sonic Battle.