Escape from Tarkov thread

Well, let's hear it.
I won't pay 35 eurobucks for a "beta".

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>>387075702
>Anyone else playing this?
This is how these threads always start off. hmmmmmmmm

>>387077057
>Servers are all fucked up and barely anyone can play
>Desync is fucking notorious and is the number 1 reason people die
>Bots went from Terminators to blind sheep overnight and are now only loot cows
>No matchmaking system in sight, level 1 brand-new players routinely placed with level 40 vets with maxed gear
>Gear purchasing with in-game money is tied to your level, so the lower level you are, the worse gear you're able to have
>You lose everything if you die in a raid
>Teamplay is completely non-existent, expect KOS from members of your own team regularly
>You can only play PvE once an hour to get the most basic of loots back

I will say that, in it's defense, it's not pay to win. The dudes who payed like 200 bucks are on practically the same level as the dudes who paid 40, they just get more storage space.

>>387075702
>>387077057
Best gunplay of any game ever, best gun porn of any game ever as well. Lag and desync issues, also if you don't like losing everything when you die, you'll have a hard time.

Worth the 45? For me yes, 100%, but I derive orgasmic pleasure from just firing my AK74 so I may be a special case.

>>387078020
It's a shame that they call it a beta when the game obviously has still a long way to go.
Can't say I'm not looking forward to it, though. Gunplay looks and sounds very good apart from carrying loose ammo over magazines.

>>387078020
>>No matchmaking system in sight, level 1 brand-new players routinely placed with level 40 vets with maxed gear
That's good though, you can take down anyone with a shitty pistol and then you get all their fancy shit.

>>You can only play PvE once an hour to get the most basic of loots back
That's not PvE, you get to play as a Scav and Scavs won't shoot you unless you shoot them, you're still fighting other players doing normal raids.

>>387078253
They need to add a delay to loading ammo into magazines. That would dissuade the fuckers bringing loose ammo.

I find it pretty fun and intense. I wish there were more AI to shoot and loot. I'd also wish the crates I find actually had useful shit in them. The most useful stuff I found so far was a bunch of medical supplies when I was Scaving in Shoreline.

>>387078253
It's one of the very few games - and the only MMO that I know of - where I can pack a mag full of AP ammo, and then have the last 5 rounds be tracer ammo.

You can also pack slug/shot/slug combos into the shotguns. Of all the shit that I give it, the gun customization and modding I actually wholeheartedly enjoy and endorse. I just wish there wasn't a retarded-ass levelling system slapped haphazardly on top of it.
>>387078393
>Being able to take down a dude in armor with a pistol
Some of us don't have the godlike reflexes and aim that you do, man. It's especially fucking retarded when you realize that as a low-level, you have absolutely zero chance at getting armor and getting a chance to get more than one shot off before you get fragged.

>>387078020
>PvE
lmao

thats your hourly free raid with free equipment to help you out if you are too poor or took huge losses recently.

>>387079168
>few chance
m8 its really not that hard. Its like if everyone has 1 hp and deals 1 damage and buying armor give you one more hp. All the bling in this game really just makes that much a difference. A player with a pm and another player with 100k worth of gear aren't so far apart in chances of killing the other.

Just camp then

>>387078945
Yeah. Hope they change that.
>>387079168
Oh nice you can load several types of ammo into one magazine? I loved doing that in 7.62 High Caliber. I'd have every third shot being AP.

>>387075702
Broken. Unplayable. Shitty gamemode.

Sums it up pretty well.

>>387079168
>reflexes

Nope, reflexes aren't what will let you win against the faggot in full gear. You need positioning and the element of surprise. Sometimes you'll meet the fucker in a corridor and you don't have much chance, but you can definitely alter the odds of a favourable encounter for you. Doesn't matter what armour the guy has, there is no leg armour as of now, if you fire a mag into some guy's leg, he will die, even a Makarov mag. Once a bodyparts hits 0hp any subsequent damage has a rather high chance of instantly killing you, and that chance increases as damage past 0 piles up. Sure odds aren't in your favour but remember you lose a shitty Makarov if you die, the other guy loses 50-150k worth of equipment if he dies.

Armour is overpowered right now but it's more of an issue for people with shotguns and ARs (especially at range). If you have a pistol you shouldn't engage unless you got the drop on him and can take out his legs anyway. Hopefully they will add internal damage so faggots in armour can't take a shogun blast to the chest without organs rupturing, unlike now.

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I'm enjoying it.

>>387078020
Bots are in a weird spot.

They were terminators and a pistol scav was scarier than a player with an AK and a scope.

I think they changed some distance setting so they weren't 180 one tapping you at 200m, so now its easy to kill them at range. However theres still a lot of the 180 headshot going on at cqc distances like in the hallways in factory.

But they're much better now.

>>387078253
They really shouldn't have called ot a beta since it's clearly still in an early alpha state. Beta is supposed to be when you're feature complete and just working on desync, bugs and optimization.

>>387081312
Yep. Just looking at the amount of maps that are missing makes that clear.

>>387075702
I think they could really have something here, but they need to finish the rest of the maps and get that open world going.

And fix the desync and bugs, and work on the economy, but at least the gunplay, gun modding and combat is some of the best I've ever seen.

Idk after 10 hours with it im on the fence.

It can be fun, but some parts of the game are absolute shit.
>hackers
>only two decent maps out of the 4 playable
>woods is absolute shit
>gun shot noises are inaccurate if you're fired upon and don't see them firing at you you will be fucked
>scav traitors

i mean, the game can be a fucking headache right now and cause more stress than pleasure.

>>387081820
>Economy
Imho this is probably one of the better things out there, because the shit that I want at a lower level to put me on a fighting level with higher leveled dudes is only 30, 40k rubles a gun.

If you're talking about the amount of money that traders have to give out to players, absolutely. It's fucking nonsense that they're running out of dosh within 10 minutes of getting restocked.

I still doesn't know what fuck is this game about, and it is funny how hard is to find out in the internet


Is this some PUBG shit? Deathmatch?

>>387081723
And that's not even getting to the free roam feature where you could roam around with little to no borders.

>>387082158
How's it difficult? Just watch a video or something. You choose your gear that you buy from traders for ingame money or grab from dead people, pick a map and try to get out alive, find loot or just shoot people.

>>387082158
no, you drop in a map with maybe 8 other players and scavs(npcs) and either kill each other, kill npcs, or loot boxes in buildings or outside. Then you run to one of the few extraction zones in the map and if you don't get killed you get to take whatever you loot you got and put it back in your stash. Then you pick another map and do the same thing again.

>>387081723
According to one of the "devs" on twitch, they're holding back content now as they attempt to stabilize the servers from the many players joining since they opened up to beta. Apparently once they've got the massive de-sync issues worked out, content will start coming out frequently.

"dev" in quotes because apparently all he does is PR but still calls himself one.

>>387082490

Ok, a small scale PUBG, got it

>>387082158
It amazes me that people like you still exist. It's not that difficult to search up the video on YouTube. Retard.

The desync and fucked up sounds in this game are really fucking getting to me today. And is there some trick to getting helmets besides getting lucky with finding filters? I've yet to see a single scav with one even though I know it's possible.

>>387082567
Interesting. The sooner they manage to get everything done, the happier I will be.

>>387075702
>I've already wasted $35 bucks
that's one of the best things I've ever heard

>>387082592
no you stupid fuck

I feel like the more I play this game the worse I get. Actually all shooters are like that for me. Fucking hell this is suffering because I'm addicted to the game but am playing like a fucking retard and getting shit on now.

>>387083232

You don't have to be all defensive bruh

>>387083350
that's exactly how i feel right now. After two days straight of playing im frustrated and don't even wanna bother touching it right now

>>387079110
From what I've heard from the "dev" the other anon was talking about, they might be adding in better stuff to the various crates, including weapons and higher tier loot. But yeah, right now you're better off searching the possible in-world weapon spawn locations than any of the crates.

>>387083468
Yeah that's exactly it. Been playing for like a week straight. I need a break, but I can't stop.

>>387079110

Yeah, it's dumb that literally none of the crates have any chance to spawn weapons, most of the time you'll find like 12 bullets of 3 different types and maybe one magazine.

I think they should make crates give better loot depending on location and how many crates are by it.

There's places where you just find one crate all by itself with nothing around it, and maybe that'll just be the low end where it only has a few bullets and a mag.

But there's spots where the searchable crate is next to like 15 crates, like in the dorms, and that should be stacked, have weapons, ammo, mags, grenades, ect.

>>387082067
It's not just that traders are running out of money in record time, but there's bugs where people get stuck at some loyalty level with a trader and can't get out of it despite being well above the level and money exchanged threshold.

Also, the bartering system right now is stupid. You can't get certain weapons and gear despite having millions in rubles and tens of thousands of dollars because the trader wants milk cans or tool sets and won't take cash for it.

>>387082768
>And is there some trick to getting helmets besides getting lucky with finding filters?

Find and kill someone wearing a helmet. Probably easier than the filters.

Again, I don't know why the felt they needed to make it where you need filters for a helmet when it should just be easy to just pay a dude a few hundred bucks to get it.

>>387084167
Usually the bug with people not getting past the level/money threshold is the trader thing saying you need to spend, like, 1 mil to get level 3 or 4 when it's really 1.5 million. The bartering system is fucking retarded though, I agree. The only thing I like about the barter system right now is that it makes Fort armor really hard to get. Fort armor is fucking stupid strong.

>>387084268
Yeah but most players I find either have really middling gear or are just hatchlings. Nobody wants to bring out decent gear without a helmet, and people who do have helmets want to save them because they're so hard to get. Yeah I don't know why they had to go and make helmets so hard to get. Fort armor makes sense, but fucking helmets? Come on.

just spawn with nothing but a grenade you plebs

ez money

the shrapnel kills within like 50 feet the aoe is fucking huge

They really need to add the karma system, right now it's a free-for-all. That said, I haven't seen a single USEC so I dunno how that's gonna work out.

no open betas? no torrents?

>go in as a hatchling
>hatchet scav to death
>take his shitty shotgun
>end up killing a guy in armour, helmet, and with a decked out AK

That's what you get for being a scrub.

>>3870848652
There will be an open beta "soon". No idea about torrents, probably none because there isn't much point to the game if you aren't playing online.

>>387084859
USEC'll get a lot more people when weapon-related bonuses get added 'cause the M4 is really popular.

>>387085164
offline is ok too for me, so i can try the game out

The sound system is v nice, barring for when it glitches out a bit.

The game keeps track of your character's body orientation, and when you look over to the side enough it makes your character adjust his posture which can make a foot scraping noise depending on the surface you're on. Lots of little thoughtful things like that, leading to some tense soundplay if you realize someone's trying to sneak up on you.

>>387078945
>They need to add a delay to loading ammo into magazines

Same with the meds too. People shouldn't be able to instantly recover their gunshot wounds like they can now in a few seconds like it's COD. There should be a healing animation, and it should take like 30 seconds to remove a status effect, and 1 second per hp recovered delay.

>>387085164
>There will be an open beta "soon"

Hopefully like a year from now because this 'beta' is really just an alpha. When they do open betas they really need to be feature complete, not this 'we're calling it a beta for PR purposes to make things look like they're progressing faster than they actually are'

>>387085861
Absolutely this. For a game that prides itself on "slow, tactical gameplay," it's amazing how many tactics are to simply shoot you once and then bum-rush your ass once you're attempting to heal up. It'd honestly probably help if teamplay was a thing, though.

>>387084859

I have to admit, I don't even want much of a karma system since I think the game is more fun and tense when it's just all the PMCs fighting each other plus Scavs.

The only thing I would want is just that if you're a player scav, and you damage another scav you get treated as a PMC and all the AI turns on you.

>>387087735
>The only thing I would want is just that if you're a player scav, and you damage another scav you get treated as a PMC and all the AI turns on you.

This already happens, AFAIK

>>387075702
Tarkov general

There is already a board for vg's

>>387085307
What sort of weapons related bonuses because this sounds like something that could be very bad very quickly.

>>387087792

It happens if you attack the AI, and only if they're in line of sight. If you damage or kill other player scavs the AI doesn't give a shit.

>>387087675
I think the team play is in a weird spot. Queuing up needs to allow you to spawn in the same spot. I'm sure once I learn maps better me and some friends can do better callouts to know where we are but it can be difficult to figure out if the person coming around the corner is a friend or foe until we confirm on mic but at that point we could be dead. It's hard to properly initiate team play. Perhaps they need a better way to tell if someone is in your squad or not.

>>387088117
I dunno. Probably better maintenance/less jamming, better recoil control, quicker reloads, etc. I doubt they'll give a damage bonus or anything stupid like that, but who knows? It wouldn't surprise me if they fucked that up. The recoil control is w/e because recoil in this game, even on a basic-bitch AK, isn't bad in the first place.

>>387089193

Yeah, I guess as long as it's something reasonable, like if you were a big USA PMC and mostly used m4s I suppose you'd probably be a little better on the handling.

I'd really just hope it'd be like you'd just start off on a higher level but say a Bear really took to liking M4s, that he could use them a lot and just level up to the same point the USEC is at, it'd just take longer because the USEC starts at level 2 on m4s and Bears start at 0, but the inverse for Kalashnikovs.

One thing they really need is localized voice like the direct voice was in ARMA, and then radios and headsets for longer range comms.

I think just getting some basic in game VOIP would help out a lot and really bring it to the next level. Right now they just have a mumble button which has a few uses but I really think is just a waste.

>Spawn into a match as Scav
>Lag isn't measure in MS, not measured even in seconds, but in fucking minutes
>Takes about a minute and 20 sec to get a bandage from my inventory to my pockets
>A minute for reloads to take place
>About 2 minutes for loot to show up
>Alt+F4 immediately

They desperately need to fucking fix servers.

>>387083394
It's not even remotely like that trash. You've got extremely customizable weapons, a persistent RPG setting, missions, NPCs, an economy, ultra-realism. PUBG has literally the shallowest gameplay ever.

There's some podcast going on if anyone is interested. Go to Twitch and check out angryhippie. One of the guys in there works with the people making the game, so maybe there'll be some info about upcoming content or when they'll fix servers and shit.

i wonder what will be completed 1st. this or star citizen

>>387094646
Considering that Star Citizen has pretty much been confirmed for a fucking sham and has been in development for 3 times longer than EFT, I'd say that EFT has a pretty good chance of getting into open beta, at least.