You niggas hype for tomorrow???

>tfw it will end up costing over $1000 in Canada because of conversion, tax, and miners

My SLI Titans run games just fine

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>buying pc parts
>after Q2
unless you enjoy paying the good goy markup tax you'll be waiting till mid 2018 to upgrade

>>387075240
Don't forget the worthless value of your currency.

Are there any benchmarks? I thought I saw some stuff that $500 vega wasn't too much better than a 1070 and the top vega isn't better than a 1080ti. It came out way too late and it's too expensive if that's the case

>>387076458
lmao retard

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>>387076636

>>387075047

No, I can afford nvidia and AMD hype ALWAYS falls flat on its face after release. AMD is literally the Todd Howard of GPUs.

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>>387075047
>under 500$
>499$ MSRP

>under $500
No one buys amd cards with the reference jet turbine do they? It's going to be $570+ with a proper fan.

>>387075240
>not being happy paying taxes
what's wrong with you?

>>387075047
I'll just be happy to finally see the 10** series back in stock locally once this hits. Maybe pick up some deals from idiots that finally realized they can't actually make good coin off of Nvidia.

Not really, my 5870 still works fine.

>>387075047
vega was pretty disappointing, but after ryzen and threadripper i'm willing to let it slide. hopefully next gen is as competitive on the gpu side too.

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>>387077580

>Radeon support

>>387076983
conversion is literally the first thing he said, retard

>>387075047
>amd
Haha no, prefer to not have my house on fire.

I have 970 I bought used for $70. Everything works 60 fps for me. Why bother upgrading?

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>>387077839
Conversion isn't the reason his currency is worth shit.

Stating conversion is wrong. His currency itself is worth shit. Nothing to do with conversion

>>387076465
nope but you're way off

vega 56 is $400 and inbetween 1070 and 1080
vega 64 is $500 for air version and slightly better than 1080.

may also be faster in dx12, and we've yet to see hbcc and fp16 in action which could increase minimums alot

>>387078048
anon i think you may have brain damage

>minimum 1000w psu
Hahahahhahahahahahahahha

>>387078039
nice deal senpai

im on a 2500k and 980 still fine for maxing majority of games 1080p 60+fps

debating on whether I should upgrade to 1440p/zen2/navi late next year or just wait til 2020 for 4k 144hz

>>387078005
wrong brand

if it really beats the 1070 in performance and eventually sells for the MSRP, it will be a great buy in a close future.

>freesync
>relive >>>> shadowplay
>clean and functional control panel with no bloatware
>full dx12 support and better at vulkan

shame about the power comsumption thou, but I hear vega 56 is decent, vega 64 just went full retard on power...

>>387078252
sorry meant to say 750w but im from russia comrades

>>387078216
Oh that's a little better then. Still woulda been great if they were a little cheaper since it was such a late release. MSRP won't mean anything anyway since apparently it's supposed to be great for mining

>>387075047
no, i have a gtx 1070 oc to 2.03 ghz already. amd has been shit for me in the past anyway with my r9 390.

>>387078587
every gpu talk with friends go like this:

>this new enhancedsync is nice, do you use fastsync on your card?
>"i cant, when I open the panel it instantly crashes"

and they say nvidia has better drivers...

>>387077284
Because it faster to say "under $500" than "$500 or less".

>>387078216
actually all reputable leaked benchmarks so far make the vega64 slightly slower than the 1080 from synthetic benchmarks. there are no reputable game benches for either the 56 or 64

>>387078907
the nvidia control panel is kinda shitty, but how are these new AMD cards hardware wise? are they competitive with nivida models?

>>387078907
never known anyone ever to have issues with fastsync and like 99% of my friends have nvidia. keep talking out of your ass

>>387079020

you know what people are looking for is vega 56.
there is only a handfull of retards that would pay >500 usd for a "high end card".

nvidia can dominate the high end market indefinetely for my, I just want competition for the low, mid and semi-high end market.

when are the chinese making some damn gpus to save us from monopoly prices?

>>387079090

rx 560 is better than gtx 1060 my man.

The only people that still give a shit about AMD are AMD buyers.

>>387079417

* rx 580

>minimum 750 W PSU
Does this mean I can't use my 750 W PSU since it's old as shit?

>>387078246
Haha fool no I don't. Also btw what does conversion mean by chance?

>>387079323
i doubt anyone would pay $400 for an amd gpu when the gtx 1070 exists for $349 and is an nvidia gpu. they should have matched nvidia's msrp but offered much better performance like they did with ryzen against intel.

vega 56 at $400 won't sell unless it's like 50% more powerful than the 1070 which is $50 cheaper.

i'm talking about non fucked up pricing and not current pricing because of shitty miners. that has already made the 1070 price skyrocket and the same will happen to vega

>>387075047
>thinking that minerniggers haven't already stolen them all from warehouses

>>387079778

lets be real for a moment, even if vega 56 was a much better offer than the 1070 for the price, people woud still get nvidia anyway for brand recognition, general consumers dont do proper research.

this has happen in the past. amd if fighting an uphill battle...

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>>387079417
>>387079745
not by much. lets not forget that every rx 580 is basically a factory OC 480 as there is no reference rx 580 from amd which means any factory oc gtx 1060 will either match or beat it

>amd shit
No thanks

>AMD
LOLno, fuck that, Nvidia's got you beat on marketing so all games run worse even on equivalent hardware

>>387080081
"general consumers" buy consoles, not pc parts.

>>387080125

nice cherry picking.
there is a real advantage in some major titles for the rx 580.

besides you the the other beneffits of having amd gpu: freesync, relive, funcional control pannel etc.

unless you REALLY want to go nvidia, of course...

gtx 1060 has better power comsumption, I give you that, but that is it.

>>387079749
>750w
for one card? damn son

>>387080081
no. most people are educated enough to know what to buy just like with ryzen. amd cpu have been nothing for the last 6 years since 2011 but when ryzen came out it fast became a best seller as, even though amd was not even spoken about for 6 years, they still knew enough about it's superior power figures and performance per dollar to buy it. the same will happen in the gpu space. until amd comprehensively beats nvidia whilst offering superior power consumption numbers, there is no reason for anyone to buy amd over nvidia for most people.

>>387080268

general gpu consumers, then, same story.

daily reminder you're a tool if you buy anything over a Pentium G/Ryzen 3 and a 1050 for gaming

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>>387075047
Nah, I've got a 1080ti with a hybrid cooler.

Worth the upgrade from a meme 970 for 1080p 144hz?

What does 499$ mspr even mean?
Who pays that? Can I pay that? Where can I pay that?

>>387080432
It's the official requirements, anon.

>750 watts PSU recommended

will i be okay with my 620 watt bronze?

>>387080427
>27 game average
>cherrypicking

are you retarded?

>freesync

good technology but still over priced. the cheapest decent freesync monitor today across the world is the mg279q 1440p 144hz monitor but only has a freesync range of 30 to 90 hz. freesync isn't a consistent technology and even amd themselves noticed it by releasing the standardized freesync 2 soon.

>relive
literally the same as GFE but works a bit worse on lower end pc. OBS is the best so not even an argument.

>funcional control pannel
i own both amd and nvidia and i haven't had any problems with either "control panel"

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Make another thread once buttcoin miners stop jacking up the prices

>>387080489

then how do you explan the gtx 480 vs. radeon 5870?

>>387080489
You are a fucking retard.
Go read up on GPU and CPU history so you actually know what you're talking about.

>>387078907
Nvidia always had garbage drivers which is exactly why they employed agressive marketing using their fault on amd.
Rolling back drivers hardly exists on amd but it's a "feature" on nvidia since forever.

>>387081061
the 5850 was one of the most succesful gpu of its time and even today i know many people who have one. that faggot scottish shill youtuber has already explained about oem contracts and how nvidia earn more revenue within that time period.

also times change. people are a lot more informed about graphics card technology as you even get meme websites like ign doing reviews and top 10 lists

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>We want the space heater audience

>>387080947

yes, cherry picking.
how much of those titles are goyworks?

freesync is overpriced? is this a joke? go pay 300 usd fee for you gsync monitor then, like a good goy.

relive has less impact than shadowplay.

and finally, if you are really saying that nvidias control pannel is just as good as current amds you are just another deluded fanboy...

>>387079592
Basically, yeah

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>>387081331
man some real short bus riders post here

drivers are not magical, anyone can remove them whenever they feel like since forever.

>>387081671
Said the i7 owner.

no, should've released them months ago
pricing doesnt seem all that competitive

>>387081454

Oh yeah, I bet IGN is a great place to learn about gpus...

the 5850 and 5870 were legendary cards but still sold less to the final consumer than the nvidia counterparts.

just face it, the average consumer is an idiot.

>>387081331
lol?

I had a bunch of different Nvidia cards and I've never had a problem with their drivers. All I ever see is AMD users complaining about how long it takes for them to release new drivers.

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>>387075047

>>387081905
>the 5850 and 5870 were legendary cards but still sold less to the final consumer than the nvidia counterparts.

take into consideration that is was probably the lowest point for nvidia in years with that crappy fermi architecture.

nvidia at its worse sell more than ati/amd at its best, what does that tell you about the average consumer?

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>>387081574
>28-pins of power
>Pins comes in pairs of 2 and 2
>14 rows of pins
>8 + 8 + 8 + 4 pins used to power the GPU

>>387082034
lol.
you never play games on release then my dear reddispacing nigger

>>387075047
As much as I'm happy for AMD for making a new high end GPU, I don't care unless it beats my 1080 for less than £500

>>387075047
>G Puking

>>387081618
he tested pretty much every major AAA game from the last ~2/3 years. you can't cherrypick if you test nearly every recent game.

and yes, the nvidia control panel is exactly the same as the amd one. like i said i own both an amd r9 gpu and a current gtx 10 series nvidia gpu with the control panel having no issues. deal with it. ironic how you're the one called everyone else deluded when you haven't even tested it for yourself and also calling out a 27 game benchmark to be cherrypicking even after the 580 was faster on average

>>387082115
>what does that tell you about the average consumer?

that they buy prebuilts.

>>387082139
I do, I'm just not fucking retarded. They almost always have a new driver for big releases and I've never had problems. Most people that have issues with drivers are idiots and should probably just stick to consoles.

>AMD

>>387081618
>and finally, if you are really saying that nvidias control pannel is just as good as current amds you are just another deluded fanboy...
Nvidia's control panel is above and beyond better than AMD's, and if you need even more control you have Nvidia Inspector which is absolutely amazing.

>>387082523
>Hating competition in a market with only ONE (1) other company

>>387082279

nice arguments there.
even nvidia fanboys dont like their bloatware drivers, but go on denying.

take those 27 titles and remove the goyworks "enhanced" ones, lets see then.

if you care at all for the near future, bench the dx12 and vulkan titles and see how they fare on both cards.

>>387082139
I've always seen nvidia releasing their drivers at launch, especially considering there are more games under goyworks than amd evolved, while AMD having to rollback often for specific games (that was for 200 and 300 series, idk for rx).
seen plenty of issues for fermi as well, but not for maxwell

>>387082721
> defending the inferior brand

>>387082421
>l-lies !! it works for me...

nailed it, anon.

>>387082747
>take those 27 titles and remove the goyworks "enhanced" ones, lets see then.

Does it really matter? AMD cards run the games worse. Thats the bottom line

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>>387082747
i mean nvidia's driver menu is shit but shadowplay works pretty well and who gives a shit when we got nspector

lol amd still sucks desu oh well

>>387082376

case and point, idiots.

>>387082721

people want to get fucked in the ass with inflated prices, halted progress and general stagnation.

they are no better than stupid commies...

>>387082747
what are you even talking about? what does
>even nvidia fanboys dont like their bloatware drivers, but go on denying.
even mean when the control panel is a fucking individual software?

>take those 27 titles and remove the goyworks "enhanced" ones, lets see then.
it's like you're just pretending to be retarded or something. that's like saying "lets not test all the games, even the ones people play regularly".

>>387082747
> offloading graphics to the CPU because your GPU is india-tier
> pretending that's good gpu usage

just kys you mongoloid

>>387083019

not even that, the 580 still wins anyway.

>>387082914
Like I said, I'm not retarded.

>>387082721
>If there are only two competitors you have to like the underdog better
I've never understood this mentality. Why do you HAVE to support the underdog? Also the only reason there are only two competitors is because Nvidia and ATI drove everyone else out out of business and gobbled up patents making it almost impossible for anyone new to enter the market. The desktop GPU market is a dead permanent duopoly, there's no more room for growth or new competition, making it completely uninteresting from a market standpoint. Same with x86, although there are a few outliers like VIA and that Russian company reverse engineering x86 for the Russian government.

>>387082747
wtf are bloatware drivers?
during install you can select specific components, 3d vision, ge experience, vr components are optional, for the rest you get a general profile under control panel or you can tweak per application profile

When will RX 400 series be back in stock?

>>387076983
usd is worthless itself

t. amerilard

>>387083142
I think he's confusing GeForce Experience with the Nvidia Control Panel, two entirely different pieces of software.

>>387083095
>case and point, idiots.

?

when i said they buy prebuilts it just means it's amd's fault for not offering products which fit the prebuilt makers power and heat targets for stock gpu. the MASSIVE majority of nvidia sales is from prebuilts and it's up to amd to re-negotiate these deals to have more of their gpu in the pc's like with ryzen recently. it's not nvidia's fault that amd can't manage that.

>>387083142
>lets support bad industry practices that buttfuck the consumer

get help

half the games in my regular play multiplayer library have and have had glitches and graphical errors while using various geforce drivers

its really annoying when one day the game will stutter, then the other the sky changes colors and in another game the screen goes black every 5 seconds

>>387075047
Yes i am. I hate g sync.

>>387083476

you talk like nvidia dont bribe the shit out of the pre-built market.

its not even a secret for a long time now, anon...

>>387083514
what the fuck are you talking about? how is my gtx 1070 supporting bad industry practices? i've had this gpu for nearly 1 year and amd haven't even offered any competition to it and it's been a really good gpu for my gaming experiences yet it's somehow supporting bad industry practices? this thing uses less power than even an rx 580 whilst being like 50% faster.

you're just shitposting now because you've been cornered

>>387075047
No, I have a 1080ti

>>387083759
>he doesn't know

good goy.

>>387083514
>lets support bad industry practices that buttfuck the consumer
You mean like how AMD drops driver support for two year old products? Or how they don't even offer new drivers for 8.1 despite it still being in commercial support? ATI/AMD's GPU division has horrible support for anything not brand new, I can see why customers, especially OEM's, would be wary of AMD graphics. I have a Ryzen CPU but I refuse to purchase any GPU or APU from them, their graphics division is a complete shitshow.

>>387083751
except they don't. they're not intel tier. not yet anyway. nvidia gpu are simply more appealing because of the lower power consumption. it comes out cheaper for the prebuilt vendors as it lets them skimp out on the psu and case fans and all that

Just hope Vega will be as good or slightly better than my 1080 so i can switch it out. I have a freesync monitor so i want to stick with AMD really.

>>387083751
pre-built market uses igpu anon...
and if they throw in a x50ti it's simply because the shit tier 300w chinese psu can handle it

>>387083958

nvidia is only power efficient on those last architectures.

the market was the same with the fermi fiasco, dont pretend this is the sole reason people buy nvidia...

>>387077489
Pretty sure some of the reference ones are watercooled.

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>tfw still have this screenshot saved

Man, my fucking 390 couldn't handle this fucking game and it actually pissed me off. I looked forward to this game for fucking forever. I remember finding a fix which prevented the crashing but it meant me playing in DX10 mode and at 900p because I think the driver would crash when the gpu went over a certain percentage of utilization.

>>387084359
Can't remember ever having issues running gta v really on my 290x and i played it on launch on PC

>>387084180
AMD prebuilts are trash. Someone did a review of every major Bristol Ridge mobile device and they were all universally horrible despite the price point. I don't know whether it's AMD or OEM's fault but if Raven Ridge is going to be a success both parties need to get their shit together. Also they lose any advantage of their APU's because no drivers.

>>387084524
It was exclusive to the 3xx series cards for whatever reason even though they were the exact same as the 2xx series cards anyway. Don't know how they even managed that.

>>387084180
amd took some serious marketshare from nvidia during fermi and at one point it was almost a 50/50 split

>>387084824
Huh, i see. Well, glad they fixed it eventually. For me, AMD is very good at keeping their cards alive and updating them. Had AMD for years too, feel dirty having a 1080 in my system which is why i hope vega gives me a reason to replace it.

>Vega 64 costs the same as a 1080 but performs 5% faster than it
>Vega 56 costs $100 cheaper than a 1080 but performs 5% slower than it
Literally why would anyone get a Vega 64 when the 56 is so much better value?

>>387084983

Not every consumer is brainded then.

that gen should have been 90% amd sells if more people knew their shit...

>>387084983
they did too many rebrandings 6000-7000 200-300 400-500, i may be missing others

>>387085236
that's not how it works. you can't go to 90% marketshare like that. some greece tier economic prediction right there.

>>387085236
What is wrong with you? How can someone be this fanboyish? Why does AMD deserve 90% exactly?

>>387085505

of course its not realistic, I just told you the reason.

brand loyalty is dumb.
people are dumb.

>>387085536

talking about fermi gen you retard.

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>>387082112
I love the fact that this joke now applies to intel/nvidia and not amd

We have come full circle once again

AYYMD HOUSEFIRES

>>387085614
>people are dumb because they don't buy the brand I prefer
Dude go outside and get off the internet for a while.

>>387085979
you should probably end your life if I may be frank with you

>>387085918
>I love the fact that this joke now applies to intel/nvidia and not amd

i don't get it

>>387085979
>ryzen is a massive success
>radeon is competitive on low end and mid end again

le epic meme reddit xD

imagine bribing game devs because your own programmers can't make a decent driver to save their life

>>387085918
????
But Pascal is relatively cool and power efficient? Also stop falling into the AMD trap of thinking Intel and Nvidia are the same company, they're not related in any way.

>>387086087
kids got some rad gear

>>387086213
that's the whole reason amd are pushing dx12 and vulkan. they know they're shit at drivers so they want to promote the tech which allows their hardware to run at its best without a lot of driver support.

>>387086087
Huh, I never realized the kid got an R9 380 with a 1440p/144Hz monitor, he was going to have a bad time running anything except Quake Live and CSGO. Guess that's what happens when your parents buy you vidya stuff.

>>387086281
>>387086579
his brother ended up stealing it all off him. there was some massive plebbit shitfest over it

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>750 PSU requirement for RX Vega 64
Are they for real with this? The fuck?

>>387086579
>>387086720
also he got it from amd because his old graphics card broke and he sent them a letter or some shit. wasn't his parents who bought it

https://www.reddit.com/r/rage/comments/3hhnyq/amd_sent_a_10_year_old_autistic_kid_a_brand_new/

AMD CPU + Nvidia GPU master race here

https://videocardz.com/71953/are-these-radeon-rx-vega-56-benchmarks

>Struggling against 1 year old GTX 1070 while consuming 210W

AYYMD IS FINISHED & BANKRUPT

AYYMDPOORFAGS CONFIRMED ON SUICIDE WATCH

>>387086921
That's accounting for shitty psus with horrible efficiency.
A proper 550w psu will be able to run a vega 64 easily.

>>387086579
You know all that tard played was minecraft and thats still 90% of his game time.

I fucking hate living in Canada.

Can't wait to get a job in the US, fuck all these high prices.

>>387087172
Still pretty absurd
How's a SuperNova G2 650w? 80+gold

my 980ti is 5.63TFLOPS and this is 12.7. does that mean it's literally more than twice as powerful?

>>387082747

jokes on you my geforce experience never updates successfully and I don't know if I manually installed them correctly

: (

>>387087475
and a ps4 has more flops than a 1060, you still dont see ps4 running at 60fps
tflops means shit

>>387087071
the drivers arent mature yet you niglet, just wait a year and see how vega destroys jewvidea

>>387087371
How frequently do you experience blackouts/brownouts?

>>387075240
>SLI
I'm so sorry for you anon

>>387087475

The Fury x has like 9 TFLOPS and thats no where near as good as a 980ti

>>387087732
Not sure, rarely I guess.
If it helps I just bought a 650W UPS, mainly for my little NAS box that only does 20W

>>387082635
as someone with nVidia card, my CP didn't open for atleast two months now, shits fuck'd

>>387087475
You can't really compare AMD tflops to Nvidia tflops due to architectural differences. The higher AMD tflops don't translate to better performance in general though. Shit like mining however does benefit from higher compute capabilities hence why an rx 580 matches or even beats a gtx 1070 in cryptomining.

>be amd
>lets make a gpu for content creation
>gpu is good for content creation
>but it's meh at gaming
>oh fug
>whatever just release them at the same price as nvidia and put in mining instructions to just hope miners will buy out the stock
Doesn't help that the marketing went full out making it sound like Vega would be huge for gaming.

>>387088106
Why wouldn't you just uninstall and reinstall your drivers?

>>387087982
A ups should give you enough time to shut it off, the issue with the g2 is that they designed it to cheat on hold up tests which results in the 12v rail supplying power while under voltage before actually cutting it at under 11v which can be harmful to other parts of your pc.

>>387077580
Maybe because Canadian government are retards who spend our money on environmentally friendly energy, sjw classes, researching if Canadians are Islamaphobic and funding gay pride parades full of blacklivesmatter losers.
Canada is at an all time low, revolution needs to come.

>>387088285
Because I don't see a reason to update my display drivers and using CP is useless.
I just noticed two months ago that it don't work no more

>>387075240
Thank you Justin Trudeau

>>387078216
Liquid cooled vega 64 is better than a 1080 slightly. Aircooled is literally the same. We don't quite know if the 56 is better/worse than the 1070, but if AMD has any hope in hell it better be.

>375 watt tdp
Only turd worlders who cant afford electricity will hate this card

>>387076983
the chinks on west coast are all going to be ruined pretty soon

>>387075047
>Under $500
>MSRP is $499.99USD + tax

>>387080619
Hybrids are so nice.

>>387081574
>1000W system power
what the actual fug

>>387090643
>210w? What do you mean it has 300w? I ain't buying a gpu with 375w TDP! Get out with your 500w GPU!

>>387090924
Just buy a new PSU to power your machine on AMD, also while you're at it get high speed RAM to run your new Ryzen CPU correctly.

>>387090749
I'm so sick of living here.

I need to get out.

>>387085232
Sauce? Also the liquid is 5% faster, the aircooled is equal to the 1080. Havent seen any 56 benchmarks yet.

>>387091485
>also while you're at it get high speed RAM to run your new Ryzen CPU correctly
I did. I like my Ryzen, desu, but I think for GPUs I'll stick with Nvidia for now.

>>387081765
turn my name off please

>>387075047
>gpu king
>barely matches a midrange chip like the GTX 1080 that came out over 1 year ago
>doesn't even scratch the high end GTX 1080Ti that came out 9 months ago
>Nvidia's Volta is expected to be coming out in 3 months
>gpu king

AMD pls

>>387091709
No.

>>387091842
stop impersonating a mod asshole

>>387075047
>$500 MSRP for a 1070 equivalent
>It will be OOS due to buttcoins and be sold for $700-$1000 second hand

Only pain comes to those who Just Wait for AYYYMD

>>387091793
Bu..but it is king because price vs performance!

>>387077284
The masses are more likely to buy something that costs 499 than 500. Its just a psychology thing. Its more appealing to say "Under 500$" than "500$"

>>387081574
A 600W would be fine. They ask 1000W to be overkill, as if you were going to plug a 220w cpu 12HDD 2SSD and 3 nvme fill all 8 slots of ram, 16 fans and leds. Still 1000w would be safe play. If so insecure them go for 750 but 1000w is sli/XFire territory

I have a 1440p 144Hz FreeSync monitor but currently use a RX480 as the previous AMD card died and I just got a cheap replacement until a more powerful one comes out to upgrade to, which would be the Vega.

However, the AMD drivers they released this year are not working for me, they cause screen flicker (either during 3D rendering or in current drivers during loading screens) with FreeSync enabled or cause hardware crashes (red screen) when playing back videos in the background while rendering a game in full-screen mode in the foreground. Some games also had visual corruption they introduced since then. For instance, I was playing Elder Scrolls Online between other games and grass and other translucent textures had black artifacts and were flickering for 6 months worth of driver releases while the drivers from 2016 all worked fine. The issues have been reported numerous times in the AMD support forums.
I have tried every driver version they released throughout this year in hopes one works but without luck. Last fully working one is from December 2016 but it obviously doesn't contain any performance optimizations for games released since then.

This is a big issue for me. AMD should at least make sure advertised AMD-specific features like FreeSync are working without issue. If I'd get a Vega just to discover the drivers are causing problems I'd instantly regret the purchase. If the Vegas are not incredibly awesome for some reason or much cheaper I'll consider wating for a price drop on the 1080ti and just getting one to use it without FreeSync. I'd rather get tearing now and then than crashes and visual flickering due to shoddy drivers. They were fine 2015 and 2016 but this year I've not had anything but issues.

>>387083169
Kek, most gameworks can be replicated via openCL if not some of them are basicaly openCL with a lock to work only on nvidia.

>>387091987
The vega 56 is 399

>>387090383
Liquid Vega 64 is slightly better than a stock 1080 but an OC AIB 1080 is still faster while also not burning your house down.

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So, should I buy this before ShitCoin miners ruin everything?

>>387092408
Don't play modern games

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>1000W requirement
>1000W requirement
>1000W requirement
>1000W requirement

>>387093569
No, it needing 1000W is a sign of terrible things to come, plus AMD has shit the bed lately and there have been niggling day one issues with their products.

>>387092071
Thanks. I'm sure no one in this thread, the person you're replying to included, knew that.

>>387081574

Is this a joke?

>>387093569
miners already used inside connections to wipe out the supply before it reached shelves

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KYYVrBX4v0

>>387094253
Well Ryzen has a TDP of only 65W so it evens out... somehow.

I'll settle for the 56 once I get the dosh. it'll be a solid upgrade from my 290

My issue with min 1000W is not that it's an electrical hazard but it will kill your wallet.

Electricity bill will be insane. Also all those BTUs of heat being pumped out will cause your room to heat up and require A/C or ventilation of your fucking room.

>>387085236
woah, easy there, shlomo.

>>387094451
Not to mention it's a minimum, so with a moderately power hungry machine you will need 1200W to be safe.

>>387093569
too late boyo

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>1000w minimum
POO IN THE GPU

So is 2000W required if you want to crossfire?

>>387095123
PSu requirements account for the whole PC, not just the GPU. So it's probably more like 1500W, but we'll have to wait and see power consumption benchmarks.

day one scalp for me.

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>fucking absurd power requirements that poorfags won't have
>barely better than old as fuck Nvidia cards
>will be stupid scarce/expensive thanks to buttcoin anyway

Who is this for? AMD what are you doing? What the fuck.

>>387076050
Miners destroyed that cycle though

>>387075047
hahahahah
no

>>387081574
Welp, we all thought it was going to be Korea nuking us.

Nope, its the first guy to install one of these cards. Its been nice knowing you guys.

I bet it's going to shoot up to 800+ and no stock anywhere because these motherfucking miner fags will scalp them all as soon as available.

Okay I'd really like for Nvidia to stop dominating the market but this sure as shit isn't how it's going to happen.

$400 for something that floats around the same performance as a 1070. Why bother? Most people who were going to buy a card of that tier already have. Not to mention, unless shit has changed a lot since my R9 290X's, games are still just in majority, better optimized to Nvidia GPUs especially with goyworks turning up in more and more shit.

And then we have this joke of a GPU at the $500 price mark. Slower than a 1080, runs hot as fuck, requires a massive PSU when everyone building rigs these past few years has been going smaller and smaller on the PSU.

What the fuck is AMD doing? Are they even trying?

>>387097648
Either this is going to come out in enough supply that it causes the market to re-stabilize at the MSRPs, or they're going to be in such limited quantities that yeah these will wind up as $800 cards and the $200 570 will remain $400+

>>387090383
56 is 5 to 15% better than the 1070. With that said, a price cu5 for 170 wnd the 1080 meqns this is a dead on arrival card so ai really dont know why amd placed themselves in this position. And inb4 this is impossible. Amd did it with the470 460 whrn nvidia released the 1050/TI

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>>387098012
Im not upgrading yet (hanging onto 980 until volta/navi) but if I was upgrading now a 1440p freesync + vega 56 is a much better and cheaper buy over a 1070 and gsync

I doubt i will buy another nvidia card if they dont support adaptive sync, im not paying out the ass for a gsync monitor

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>>387098012
The problem is that's the result of AMD's own driver on their hardware and their driver devs are absolutely incompetent.
The whole reason that AMD cards are in such high demand among miners is that there's an entirely different set of drivers on Linux where the majority of mining is done which were developed independently from AMD which can be substantially faster than what the Windows team can deliver.
This is a bit of an extreme example but it illustrates the point, in other tests vs Windows the open source stack on Linux is around 11% faster than AMD's Windows driver.

AMD now employs several of the developers, who still work exclusively on the Linux stack. Basically its a case of AMD funding people's hobby project. Valve now employs a number of these developers as well for much the same purpose though slightly more directed as their employees tend to focus on gaming performance specifically.

>>387094451
I bet a decent 650w will be fine for a vega 64, they always overblow the requirements because of people with chink psus

at most it will use 100w more than a 1080, and a 1080 can run fine on 550ws

>>387075047
I would be but reference coolers are ass

>>387098609
Vega 56 are gonna sell out like hotcakes if they beat the stock 1080 overclocked