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Nier Automata saved Platinum

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As expected of asscheeks-chan.
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Feels good when a good game gets good recognition.
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>>387062691
>Inb4 REEEE WEEBSHIT 2B ass sold this game
Tbh, even though Automata was way more tame than NieR i'm happy that Taro gets more attention and budget. He is better than Kojima now for sure.
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Well the string of mediocre shovelware titles + Scalebound's cancellation probably hurt Platinum a fair amount. Hopefully Bayo3 is good and Kamiya is working on a new title though.

It's a shame that Konami ended up the way it did, MGR could have turned into its own extended franchise.
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>>387062856
Automata isn't a good game though.
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>Taro saved Platinum
>Platinum saved Taro

Like pottery.

;_;
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>>387062953

As expected of contrarian-kun.
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>>387062820
>6B
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They literally got lucky. 2b memes sold the game. I dare they try make any other game and it won't sell as much unless another meme pops up.
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>saved by shallow waifu bait

RIP Platinum's future
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>>387062953
low effort
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>>387063062
what meme? The great game meme? Yeah I hope they keep that up.
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protip: make weeb shit to sell well
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Sexy anime girls save lives, remember to stay away from 3DPD
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>>387062691
So Automata being such a success breathed new life into based Platinum?
Feels good man
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Well yeah if you make shitty games for like three years then fail to hold up your end of a deal with Microsoft making shitty fucking Scalebound then of course somebody needs to stop in to fix it
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>>387063006
Greatest Love Story Ever Told
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>>387063196
spoiler that shit anon
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>>387062691
Thought I'd never live to see the day where Taro gets widespread recognition
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>>387063138
2b's ass. Dozens and dozens of fan arts and jokes popped up when demo released. Niggas were hyping how you can see her butt in the ladders.
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Are you telling me that producing nothing but low effort, shovelware, licensed games wasn't good for them, as opposed to making actually good games?

Imagine my shock.
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>>387062691
Couldn't have happened to a better story - just like Yoko Taro himself I wonder how Platinum keeps getting work these days. I imagine licensed games kept them afloat.
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>>387062864
Taro has never made a good game though
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>>387063320
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Yoko Taro's response:
こちらこそ本当にお世話になりました。プラチナの皆さんに支えていただいたおかげで、作品的にも、精神的にも本当に助かりました……一緒にゲームを作る事が出来て、光栄です。ありがとうございました。

He feels that Platinum saved his work and spirit too, and it was an honor to make a game with them.
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>>387063186
>Japanese game company makes weebshit games
Stop the fucking presses.
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How would you get your hands on NIER: Gestalt? Ebay?
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Automata was better than most of Platinum's recent games, but it was still mediocre at best. Nothing's been "saved" they still can't make good games anymore.
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>>387063426
For you
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>>387063191
She's literally a 3D model.
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>>387063490
obviously not every japanese game is pandering to weebs
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>>387063519
Yeah. Tomato's popularity jacked up the prices though, before you could find a copy for 10 bucks.
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>2B's ass sells the game
>turns out some fuccboi is the protagonist all along
how did he do it
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>>387063402
I think the problem is Platinum's games just don't have wide appeal. You hear about people loving them online, but actual audience? They probably just know about Bayonetta and Revengeance, former for ATTRACTIVE FEMALE CHARACTER and former for all the memes hype.
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Hopefully this doesn't mean all future P* titles play like Automata, it's pretty brainless as is, even MGR had more depth.

It's good to see they both found success though, especially coming off Scalebound's cancellation. Truly a blessing in the skies.
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>>387062691
I hope they don't go the way most sequels do.

So many games shove social justice out the ass in sequels. Now that Marvel have deals with Square this is a possibility.
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>>387063792
hopefully means more ass
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i wish automata bombed after seeing all the new fans

nier fanbase went from good to the worst so fast
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>>387063792
>Truly a blessing in the skies.
Nice bait, but try harder. Posts like yours are a diamond dozen in this doggy dog world.
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>>387063873
>wanting a game to fail because you don't like the fanbase
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>>387063873
Agreed this is the only downside of the game's success. Waifu fags everywhere.
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>>387063873
>"GTFO my niche games normie bastards!"
>"How dare you buy so many copies and ensure the series' continuation and possible improved ports!"
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>>387063013
>>387063124
It's a painfully mediocre character action game with a shit story that is largely popular because of the robot waifu ass. For less money you could play Devil May Cry 4 or Bayonetta and get a far better game.
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>>387063426
this t b h until Automata

not a shitpost but as a game, NieR isn't very good. As an experience it great. Automata has at least decent action gameplay
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>>387063730
which is a goddamn shame. wonderful 101 is a criminally overlooked game and it's stuck on the wii u.
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>>387064053
Yes because games like DoA and Senran are so widely popular correct? Believe it or not sex alone does not sell games, not to mention the 60 dollar price tag.
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>>387063138
literally ''ass'' advertising
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>>387063873
fuck off with your secret club mindset faggot
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>>387063873
>Literally muh sekrit club

Hipsters GTFO

>>387064053
It's not even an action game, it's an action-RPG. Bayo and DMC are not even in the same fucking genre, besides they're both worse games and less fun to play than N:A.
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>>387063519
Why would you want to play Gestalt? It's literally the version that was released overseas.
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>>387063873
>any fanbase
>ever good

I agree that NieR's wide recognition in the weeb community has made for some pretty embarrassing moments but come on.
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>>387064361
caveman dad>gay twink that sells his boipussi for money
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Taro needs to fuck off with the mobileshit and collab with Kamiya to make the final NieR game. Taura and his inexperienced team gave it their best, but if Kamiya comes onboard, it could be GOAT.
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>>387064361
Replicant is the Japanese version
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>>387062864
to be fair 2B was a selling point when i bought it. i love the game for its Taroisms but i did buy 2b's game
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>>387063472
>>387062691

They should fuck.
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>>387062691

remind him to fix PC issues
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>>387064557
I've seen about 3 absolutely god-tier lewd 2B animations this week. 2B is gift from the gods.
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>>387064437
Yeah, but you don't have to buy Gestalt when you can just play Nier.
>>387064470
Replicant is the Japanese PS3 version. Gestalt is the Japanese 360 version. Overseas version on both PS3/360 is just Nier.
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>>387062864
2B ass was half the reason i bought it. Other half was Platinum Games.
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>>387062864
>>387063573
Taro is nowhere near Kojima because Kojima actually makes polished and (until V) tight, consistent experiences.
Taro's are bloated and play like shit and don't live up to their influences.
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>>387064609
>Implying they didn't
Kamiya was inside Taro all that time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jC6g7tG0OI
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>>387063397
It's more like they've had to make licensed games because things were already bad. Max Anarchy was more of a flop than most of those. They still have a pile of Cygames shit to finish anyways, although Last Song doesn't seem too shovelwarey at least
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>>387064465
I feel like Kamiya and Taro would clash since both just do whatever the fuck they want.
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>>387062691
Games barely touched 1 million in sales.

I think Kamiya is just happy to have something help ease them and bounce them back after Scale Bound fail through
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>>387064557
>>387064765
Who the fuck buys a 60 dollar game just because they wanted to look at ass? I love the game, but you people are making it hard to defend it.
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>>387064782
Taro is nowhere near Kojima because he never got a competent team. Square kept him only because he it Dragon Quest publisher's bro. If you give him the same team as Kojima he will make a much better and more thought provoking game.
Kojima makes fun titles but they get more and more pretentious with each instance.
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AND FOR ALL THAT THEY SHOULD THANK
THE MYTH
THE MAN
THE LEGEND
THE ONE WHO SINGLE HANDEDLY RESURRECTED CONSOLE GAMING
AND HELPED SQUARE GROW SOME FUCKING BALLS TO MAKE NIER A:
ANDREW fucking HOUSE
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>>387062691
This is literally the worst non-licensed game Plantium has ever made though.

I literally don't understand, it's gameplay is so fucking shallow, especially compared to greats like W101, the Bayo series, MGR or Vanquish.

Lets be real, the only reason this game is a success is waifufags.
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>>387064895
Game also definitely didn't cost more than 10 million to make and had almost negative paid advertisement
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>>387064945
We'll see with Death Stranding. We don't know enough to say.

Other than that, we only know him working in a game series that he wanted to quit 14 years before he got fired from it.
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>>387062864
It was though. The game is mediocre by platinum standards.
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>>387065035
Isn't he from Sony?
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>>387063062
>2b memes sold the game

2B sold the game. Creating the literal most visually attractive character in all fiction and media ever is not a "meme", it's Akihiko Yoshida deserving a god damn medal, raise and a blowjob.
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>>387064906
Me nigga. I wouldn't say 2b ass was a reason anywhere else though
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>Hail the PlayStation
>crowds cheer HAIL !
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>>387064895
Nigga, that is a lot considering loads of circumstances.
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>>387062691
Lets hope they work together again for drakengard 4
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>>387062916
>Well the string of mediocre shovelware titles + Scalebound's cancellation probably hurt Platinum a fair amount
The shovelware is generally a breakeven operation as long as they get their money up front. Microsoft's cancellation of Scalebound had to hurt considering the amount of bad blood generated between the two companies. OTOH, Microsoft has been hurting a lot of devs with the gross mismanagement of its investments; their only saving grace is that they aren't overtly malicious like Nintendo.
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>>387065159
Im pretty sure hes plenty happy with his granblue gig
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>>387064887
>I feel like Kamiya and Taro would clash
It would be a beautiful mess.
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>>387065053
Its almost like actual complexity in vidya is a pointless meme and people will buy anything with the right names on it if it's not getting shit on critically and by the general populus
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>>387064609
and then Kamiya can take all the unused Scalebound concepts and partner up with Taro to make a new, good Drakengard
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>>387062691
To be fair this has more to do with Nier's cult following and word of mouth than the quality of the game itself, but Automata being a good game did help a lot.
Drakengard 3 didn't get this popular despite also having a cult following because the game under it was pretty bad.
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>>387065145
>Isn't he from Sony?

He is the CEO of Sony Interactive, makers of the playstation. Home of real gaming. All hail
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>>387062691
But did it "save" Platinum?

Give me some of the best again like Bayo 3, Metal Gear Revenegance 2 and Wonderful 102 rather than the shovelware they had been doing before the GOTY-worthy material that was Automata
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>>387062691
>Company that makes games with good gameplay.
>Every game sells like shit.
>Casualized waifu weebshit game with shit gameplay and a story emphasis saves company.
Terrible.
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>>387064036
Yeah, we should back examining Kainè's pack and discussing about our daddy's issues.
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>>387063873
most of the new fans bought the game for the solid ass but they ended up with raiden 2.0
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>>387063472
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SJW btfo. That's right. People actually do want attractive and sexy waifus in their games and not your ugly dykes. Eat shit.
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>>387062691
>[...] growing staff
my staff is growing all right.
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>>387065536
That's because Platinum absolutely sucks at presentation and marketing in general.
Automata with its weird post-apocalyptic setting and robots doing stupid shit was way more enthralling than a french prostitute kicking angels with bootguns or a bunch of deformed chibi characters forming weird shapes.
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>>387065476
>let's get some more endless rehashes instead of creative video games
ok, no
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>>387065035
Also on pc*
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>>387065627
We don't deserve this man.
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>>387065536
>>Company that makes games with good gameplay.

bull fucking shit and you know it. with the exception of B2 most of their games past Vanquish were cheap shit.
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>>387063873
you got Awakening:ed
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>>387065742
They are creative games though, even the shovelware was kinda creative in places.

Why not just do both anon?
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>>387062691
literally 90% of the sales were due to the character designs and the marketing of them. the fuckin state of video games
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>>387065757
>Also on pc*

You are welcome. But seriously; I don't think this guy gets enough credit. If it wasn't for the playstation being strong this gen, japanese HD console gaming would have been totally different if not totally dead.
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There truly is nothing more pathetic than a weeb in denial. Just accept the fact that you like the game instead of being contrarian.
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>>387065895
I think Automata was a hell of a lot more creative and experiemental than anything else Platinum has ever made.

You can say it had sub-par gameplay, and I'd agree, but that was never really what Automata was going for in the first place.
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i love Toobie so much
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>>387065701
Revengence had a better atmosphere than Automata though, and the presentation was better too. As limited and boring as I found Revengence's design, I found Automata infinitely worse.
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>>387063873
Did you enjoy your NieR/Drakengard fanbase with other 10 people?
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>>387065257
>they aren't overtly malicious like Nintendo
>Nintendo went out of their way to fund 2 Platinum games that they knew would sell like shit and then even after that they still gave them more work on Star Fox
Nintendo aren't saints but I wouldn't describe them as malicious. Just pray that Platinum never works with Bethesda because Bethesda will either force them to sell their studio or destroy them.
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>>387063006
Yeah it's nice to see both of them see success, even if I believe Nier:A isn't the best of either of them, I'm still happy it happened.
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Didn't buy it myself yet because I don't like to jump into the middle of a series even if the games are only loosely connected, but with the progress rpcs3 has been making maybe I'll be able to play it before long.

Is the English patch of Replicant good enough or is it better to suffer through English dub?
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>>387066015
god damn this is the worst recent fanbase, even worse than overwatch and undertale, honestly.
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You think Platinum will ever work with Microsoft after Scalebound?
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>>387065053
>>387065536
>It's another Platinum fans don't research the game they buy episode
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>>387065780
B1, B2, Revengence, Vanquosh, W101, and even fucking TRANSFORMERS have better gameplay.
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>>387066124
No. I think they've grown to hate gaijin companies after what M$ and Activision did to them.
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When the fuck are we getting our sequel
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>still can't be assed to patch the shitty PC port
Fuck Platinum
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>>387065701
>Automata with its weird post-apocalyptic setting and robots doing stupid shit
highly unoriginal
>french prostitute kicking angels with bootguns or a bunch of deformed chibi characters forming weird shapes
interesting, original
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>>387066032
Revengeance was also a borrowed IP, are you trying to prove me right or wrong ?
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>>387063873
Considering how absolutely trash every other Taro game has been I can't fathom the """"fanbase"""" being anything but insufferable

And you kind of proved the point by coming out of the woodworks shitting on people that actually like Taro's first good game
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>>387063013
>If you don't like a game then you are contrarian
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>>387064128
They were hinting at a Switch port, god I hope that comes to fruition.
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>>387066008
Don't worry I agree, Automata is some of Platinum's best.

I'm just saying I hope they keep that up, like I enjoy MGR best for gameplay but something like W101 or Automata shows just creative and crazy they can get.

Lucky I think the sucess means they'll be scouted out by the big three again to do projects (minus Xbox because fuck that betrayal).
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>>387065053
>le gameplay meme
Wow, it's almost as if gameplay isn't the only aspect of an interactive visual-aural medium. When are you faggots going to come off it and stop pretending gameplay is the only thing that matters in a video game? There is only one video game that you could strip totally bare, leaving nothing but the gameplay and some rudimentary visuals, and still enjoy it, and that's fucking Tetris. And even then, no one is going to play Tetris for more than an hour at a time. All those games you just listed rely heavily on their presentation and direction in order to give context to their gameplay and make it engaging.
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>>387066114
>Nier Automata
>RPCS3
You talking about original Nier?
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>>387065742
What the fuck is creative about NA?

The emptiest open world ever? The 3 different enemies in the game? Baby's first ship of Thesus story? The repetitive as fuck hacking? The so easy to the point of pointless bullethell sections? Having to replay 8 hours of the game for 20 seconds of new cutscenes before a boss fight?

Fuck off, this game was mediocre at absolute best. /v/ ONLY likes it for 2B's ass and the forced 9S "feels"
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>>387066114
The english dub isnt all that bad really
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>>387064210
1)those are popular
2)2 games not being popular doesn't mean nothing gets popular solely because of it
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FFXV BTFO
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How do these games relate to Drakengard? How long is the first play through?
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>>387062691
I've never wanted to like a game more, only to hate it. I don't like the character designs, I don't like the combat, and the story isn't remotely the masterpiece that people pretend it is.
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>>387066347
Yes, I want to play that before, it's the reason I didn't buy Automata yet.
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>>387066342
the granblue project could be pretty big depending on how they plan to fund it
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>>387066346
>Wow, it's almost as if gameplay isn't the only aspect of an interactive visual-aural medium. When are you faggots going to come off it and stop pretending gameplay is the only thing that matters in a video game?
Oh hey Neogaf is here. I think its time to admit Automata is The Last of Us for weebs.
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>>387065378
Anon stop
it hurts to know that it wont happen, so just stop
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>>387066270
>highly unoriginal
lmao

Fucking idiot.
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>>387066190
When someone buys Metal Gear and gives it back to Kojima
Which is to say never ever as Konami would see that coming a mile away
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>>387066386
these people are complete casuals dude, this is their first experience with any sort of meta-storytelling or genre-mashing
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>>387062856
Agreed
Only jaded fucks hate nier aut.
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>>387066008
I honestly don't see how Automata was more creative or experimental than W101.

I'm ok with you not agreeing that W101 is the better game, but the 2 labels you used I don't agree with at all.
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>>387062864
Anyone who says 2B wasn't important to the success of Automata is retarded.
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>>387066386
Yes. All of that. We don't see this shit too often dude.
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>>387066497
Proving yourself the idiot there, you underage casual.
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What the fuck is wrong with the "anti weebs" on this thread/board,do they lack self awareness or are trying to be funny?
Those faggots are pure cancer and I haven't even played Nier
inb4 "anime is reddit",so is vydia by the same token retards
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Platinum hasn't made a good game since before they were platinum. You'd think the people who made God Hand would understand how to make a good action game but everything they've made on their own has been weak. I don't know who insists on free insta dodge at any point in any animation with i-frames the whole time being in every single game but it completely fucking ruins all of them. It completely removes any element of positioning to avoid enemy attacks and committing to your own attacks from combat, completely invalidating and making pointless every move except your highest DPS combos and also meaning the only avenue by which to introduce challenge is timing your dodges.
And now that you only have to time dodges, the only way to make the game harder is to either make wind ups so short or subtle that you have trouble getting them in time, or making them obvious and just flooding every combat with oodles of enemies. The former is really annoying, so in every game they just do the latter, and combat ends up being a brainless repetitive slog against faceless hordes of interchangeable enemies, whose movement patterns and attack types your brain doesn't even bother noticing because the only element of their fighting that is relevant is at what time you should hit the dodge button.
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is the PC version still fucked?
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Put OG Nier on PC already
I´ve got my PS3 copy since last week,
but I´m hoping for some kind of announcment during TGS
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>saved by a fanservice game

The problem with Platinum is that they're trying flipf-flopping between genres too much.
They should stick with what sells and elaborate upon it in.

Also they should attempt to make their games not be 5 hours long.
That way potential buyers don't wait until their titles end up in the bargain bin to purchase them.
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>>387066386
Honestly I think it's a bunch of teenagers who have never played MGS2 before who want to make it THEIR MGS2.
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>>387064053
>Dmc 4
>better game
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>>387066152
This is a really stupid argument for like 3 reasons off the top of my head:
1. Nobody researches a Platinum game to see if it plays like garbage, 2. even if they did look at videos, everything would have came off as another slick crazy game, and 3. the series having a history of bad gameplay shouldn't matter when there's a new developer; one who makes good games.
Stay retarded.
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>yfw they start doing shallow waifubait games because that's the only reason Automata sold in the first place
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>Be paycheck whores
>Cash-in games ironically sell like shit because they're transparent in how bad they are
>Get contracted to make an actual half-decent game
>It sells
Shocker. Maybe try making an original half-decent game without boring combat and shitty level design.
MGR and Automata would've been better if they were directed by Itsuno. Capcom is stupid, but axing Clover isn't why
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>>387066270
Originality means jack shit if it isn't presented and marketed correctly, do I have to mention the entire Souls serie as an example ?
An awesome trailer and/or the correct set pieces in a plot can carry even the shittiest of games to huge sales and it can sink the best of them just as easily.
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>>387066627
FAR mod unfucks it completly and is exremly easy too install.
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>>387066605
Pretty spot on, I think the praise just comes from the flashiness of their products, it easily impresses people.
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>>387066431
The events of Drakengard ending E is the cause of the state of the world in the first NieR game. Both NieR and Automata take about 30-40 hours to finish if you do all the endings and a bulk of the sidequests
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>>387066531
>Different opinions are bad
I love you /v/
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>>387066114
>Is the English patch of Replicant good enough or is it better to suffer through English dub?
>suffer
I am a hyper weeb and fucking despise English dubs. You are doing yourself a massive disservice if you play the original Nier in Japanese. Papa Nier >>>>>>>>>> fuccboi Nier
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>>387066386
>The emptiest open world ever?
Phantom Pain was worse if you ask me.
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>>387066473
Isn't that a port of a mobage?
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>>387066710
The Chronic is a shit album and everything that's bad about hip hop
NWA and Public Enemy are much better
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>>387066446
Don't be a faggot and buy Automata already, it happens so far into the future you don't need to play the original to understand it. In fact the game downplays the obvious plotwist that comes from the original.
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>>387066803
what the fuck no?

its a full action rpg game
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>>387064872
>Max Anarchy was more of a flop
Anarchy Reigns is a budget multiplayer game, which is bad from the very start. Then Sega decided to leave it to die on store shelves with no marketing whatsoever. Sega was mismanaging the shit out of everything at this point and Aliens Colonial Marines hammered the point home.

>>387066078
Are Japanese devs dumb enough to bet the company like that? I don't think I've ever seen one willing to make a devil's deal like their clapistani counterparts. Not sure if they have more business sense of if there is something part of their business culture that causes this.
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>>387066739
>FAR mod
you need the legit Steam version for that to work right?
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>>387066710
>an original half-decent game without boring combat and shitty level design.

That's not Nier Automata though.

>hurrr check out or shittty pseudo open world and three button combos
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>>387066805
I've never listened to it, I just think his face is funny
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>>387066483
I see you're too much of a coward to actually address the point. That's fine, but don't pretend otherwise. Scurry away with your tail between your legs.
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>>387062691
Sad that they're still going to make their shitty games
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>>387063062
bayo sells more providing its multiplat
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>>387066663
DMC4 has the best combat of all the cuhrayzee genre tho, sure the whole "half game done twice" shtick hurts it but come on.
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>>387062691
>to say that Yoko-san saved Platinum games would be an understatement. I cannot thank him enough
I remember as a joke Yoko said something along the lines of "Nier will frickin die if it didn't sell well", I guess that was half a joke and was actually truthful in some way
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>>387066870
That's most PG games and Nier Automata too
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>>387066282
Revengence sold like shit despite being superior to Automata using your own design perameters why Automata was successful in the first place.
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>>387066861
Just buy it, it´s worth it.
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>>387066589
Nier/Nier Automata are more dying earth games than post apocalyptic games, dumb dumb.

Dying earth is a criminally underused setting, and one that is nearly nonexistent in video games.
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>>387066386
>8 hours
Are you slow in the head, it's maybe 3 if you aren't doing side quests (which aren't repeated) and can't into fast.
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>>387067025
Yeah that was the video regarding Atlus new fantasy RPG.
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>>387066390
Cool, maybe I'll give it a shot. I'm usually very weeby about stuff like this but just played through Catherine and that dub was pretty great, expect for the title character who sounded really forced (and very typical of the kind of acting I've come to associate with dubs.)
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>>387066446
>>387066829
Don't listen to this faggot. Playing Automata first will not only retroactively spoil Nier, but you'll miss out on a lot of the callbacks and emotional climaxes in Automata.
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>>387067025
Pretty sure he was being 100% truthful there. Nier is not an old and beloved franchise. Releasing a game in it will always be a gamble financially.
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>>387066870
>>hurrr check out or shittty pseudo open world and three button combos
That's exactly what Automata is, without the skillsets, enemy design, cosmogony, and writing.
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>>387067282
This
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>>387066078
I dunno, only them and M$ are the ones that pay for full exclusivity from 3rd parties, I really cant remember any 3rd party exclusive from Sony, correct me if I'm wrong.

>inb4 Bloodborne
Codeveloped by SCE Studio Japan, kind of a gray area there.
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>>387067232
I would say the only one who sounds bad is Nier, but I think its mostly to the dialogue than the actor, you know, since Nier is supposed to be a young man and not a father. Kaine and Weiss are ear masturbation.
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>>387067120
>"Dying Earth" is now a genre separate from post apocalyptic.
>He didn't play the Dark Souls series.
christ anon...not even him.
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Why can't we just be happy about Yoko Taro and Platinum Games finding success in their work?
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>>387066940
The idea that a video GAME doesn't need good GAMEPLAY to be good is asinine.

Go back to neofag.
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>>387066852
What bethesda does supposedly is hire a struggling company for an ambitious project, then about halfway through development they start failing their milestones for trivial reasons so the studio starts running out of money. With the studio desperate for money, Bethesda offers a loan to "help" them continue work on the game and get through the rough spot. Once they take the bait, Bethesda starts passing their milestones again until they're close to completion of the game, then they start failing milestones again until they start running out of cash again and then Bethesda demands that they either pay back the loan or they sell the studio for a pittance.

Supposedly that's what happened to Arkane and almost happened to Human Head. With that pracitce being so widely exposed now though I don't know if they'll continue using it. It seems like these days they just grab talented people from other studios and give them money to found new studios. They did that with Starbreeze's former staff to found Machine Games and with Shinji Mikami to found Tango Gameworks.

>>387067370
>cant remember any 3rd party exclusive from Sony
Literally every single Insomniac game on a playstation platform.
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>>387064895
Retard.

Shipped 1 million.

Then it shipped 500k more so it definitely sold over a million by now.
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>>387067456
yoko taro is already a hack and platinum games hasn't lived up to clover studios once
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>>387067078
>Revengence being superior to Automata
That is highly questionable.
Revengeance was just yet another platinum spectacle fighting game, with the generic WACKY Kojima plot and characters on top of a boring story.
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>the game that saved them was some of their worst work yet

some of the shovelware they put out have better combat
the original nier had better combat
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>>387062691
And Kamiya will burn it to the ground.
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>>387067456
Agreed, don't know about you guys but i'm still happy that NieR even got a sequel in the first place
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>>387067171
Thats an outright lie.
t. someone that beat Route E because /v/ kept insisting it gets good after 9S goes nuclear and was horribly disappointed
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>>387067232
The performances in Nier are stellar. The cast is the usual suspects as far as English dubs go, but the only one I immediately recognized without having to look it up was Yuri Lowenthal (and he plays an incredibly minor role).
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>yfw you realize FFXV has better action combat than Platinum
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>>387064053
Automata isn't a character action game, it's an RPG with pretty simple combat much like the first Nier but polished up a little. The quality of writing is subjective but you're retarded if you think its success came from 2B's ass when she's not even the protagonist and most of the hype around the game (once it actually released) came from the story, particularly the third act where she's barely even involved.
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I am more surprised at how well it sold in PC in such a short time. Half a million copies, single player Japanese action game on PC at full price.
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>>387067419
Papa Nier sounds fine. The only ones that sound mediocre are Devola and Popola.
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>>387067456
>tfw A2s waist isn't that thin in-game
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>>387067456
I'm happy for Taro but I don't like what the fanbase has turned into.
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>>387066658
>only one metafocused game can exist
You are pathetic lol
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>>387067573
Nigger theres a limit on how contrarian you can be.
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>>387067440
It is, and Dark Souls isn't dying earth.
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>>387067232
Only thing bad about English Dub is 2B actress. She often acts like a cold bitch when she should be simply distant and quiet.
9S VA is phenomenal though. He wipes the floor with everyone later in the game.
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>>387066663
It's like the pyramids: sure it doesn't look all that nice, but it's a structural miracle that lasted for thousands of years
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>>387067665
>HOLD CIRCLE TO WIIIIIIIN
>Better than anything
1st and only (you) you get from me, shoo shoo XV-kun
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>>387062691
so platinum and squareenix are gonna be buttbuddies now?
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>Going from Xillia 2 to Nier: Automata
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>>387067573
If you are going to say such a retarded thing, you better explain your point.

you will not respond with an actual argument
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>>387067834
>A no name VA much better than recognized VAs
The strike was a godsend.
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>>387067949
No. Now its when Square makes a half a sequel and has an unrealistic sales expectations. If it doesnt sell 8 million copies in 2 weeks they declare it a failure and get Tameem to reboot it.
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>>387067834
Isn't that more the fault of the director/script writer than the VA? I assume they just do what they're told.
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>>387067696
2B was definitely a big part of Automata's success and if you're retarded if you think she wasn't.
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So, does that mean I can finally get my story dlc?
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>>387066426
Hasn't FFXV sold like three times as much?
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>>387067947
As opposed to Automata? All you do is hold evade and mash square, maybe shoot yer pod of you're bored.
>Warping
>Blindsiding
>Positioning for Link-Strikes
>Scanning/Utilizing Enemy Weaknesses
>Techniques
>Ascension Upgrades
>Banter
Is it unbalanced? Sure. But it has more going on, and looks better. Automata is a snoozer. Evading is bullshit in both games though.
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>>387068431
He's here boys, abandon thread
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>>387067493
Loan sharking is as old as money itself. Kind of surprising so many developers would get caught in such a simple claptrap.
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>>387068431
>But it has more going on
wut
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>>387068408
And cost 10 times as much, and even then they still weren't able to get everything the game needed in the first release.
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>>387068408
Costing like 25 times as much to make/advertise, yeah
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>>387068178
She added a lot of publicity to it for sure but I don't see that translating to much sales, if someone wants to ogle her ass there are many avenues to do so outside of buying an entire game over it. Shit like >>387066015 really decreased in the month or so after the game came out and discussion was all focused on the game itself.
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How do we design the next 2B?

A beauty icon in unique and memorable clothes and body shape that alone drives the sales of a game from a mediocre studio
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>>387067491
>The idea that a video GAME doesn't need good GAMEPLAY to be good is asinine.
Because you're a fucking brainlet who doesn't understand anything about game design and unironically believe that the fun in video games comes from timed mechanical inputs. Gameplay is the interactive element through which the player interacts with the game world, and while it is indeed an important element, pretending that it is the only important element, and that the world you interacting with through the vehicle of gameplay is irrelevant, is absurd. Would you rather look at a dull, barren field through a pristine, clear lens, or a vibrant, stunning vista through a cracked, dirty lens?

And you argument is hilarious, since it's based purely on the fact that "video game" and "gameplay" have the word "game" in them. How low is your IQ that you can make that argument without a twinge of irony?
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>>387068487
Fucking hell,he can't even stay on his threads anymore
First ACfag and now him,they should get trips already
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What are Platinum next games?
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>>387067493
>Literally every single Insomniac game on a playstation platform

But that was because they chose to develop on PS.
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>>387068735
bayonetta and overwatch even did it before 2b
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>>387066120
>even worse than overwatch and undertale, honestly.
how can you say that when nier discussion basically died a month later and we still get retards posting overmeme and undertale garbage
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>>387064053
Half of the budget is on dat ass. Don't you call that mediocre so lightly boy.
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>>387062691
have they patched PC port yet?
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>>387068637
>>387068716
Apparently it broke even day one (Coming from Squenix, that could be bullshit), I'd imagine the overall amount of profit was higher.
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>>387063873
again with the fanbase meme
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>>387068889
By looking at this very thread, undertale has pretty much been ran out of this board at least.
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>>387062856
Absolutely.
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>>387062691
>an increase in qualified job applicants

Those are SJWs trying to infiltrate.
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>>387066120
Not even fucking close. Overwatch and Undertale had threads upon threads up constantly with no fucking end in sight for weeks, Automata didn't get close to topping that fucking amount of cancer and you're either kidding yourself, new as fuck or wasn't around during those weeks or else you wouldn't be saying that shit. There was 2Butt threads up for a good while when the demo dropped as well as on release, but it never fucking came close to the other two in sheer fucking volume.
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Yet Automata was one of the worst instances of gameplay they've done. Recycled Bayonetta combat yet again along with awful bosses.

2B's ass "saved" Platinum just like it saved Automata from being a flop.
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>>387069042
>Nippon
>SJW's
>SJW's with talent in game development
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>>387068805
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pP4OaoCB4AY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYjJsy1jbe8
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>>387068809
Nope, Sony specifically commissioned them and as a result owns the Ratchet and Clank and Resistance IPs. The only Insomniac PS exclusives that weren't the result of Sony paying for them are their early Spyro games.

Also I should note, there's absolutely nothing wrong with exclusives. What people should be pissed about are games that are targetted at multiple platforms and then halfway through development they get paid money to nix a platform's release, like what happened with Titanfall 1. A game funded from the very beginning of it's development by a console manufacturer to be an exclusive is not something anyone should be upset over. Wonderful 101 and Bayo 2 wouldn't have been made without Nintendo's money, that's the difference. R&C and Resistance are the same way, there's nothing wrong with that model of exclusives.
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>>387062691
too bad Platinum didn't save Nier Automata
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I'm glad for Taro, Saito, And the rest of the platinum boys for the game being as successful as it is, but somewhere in my heart, I kinda want it to stay as a moderate success, so that the state of Nier in /v/ is the same as it was before Automata, kinda like Ace combat threads or Monhan threads before world. A corner of peace in the chaos that is /v/.
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>>387062691
The absolute madman Yoko Taro somehow saves a Triple A dev studio.
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>>387069405
>Platinum
>Triple A dev studio
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Just like P5, game hit its peak early after the carnival boss. Route C's boss rush with A2 and 9S would have been great if it didn't run out of budget recycling the same spider boss. A lot of nippon games were drastically overhyped, how did shit like nioh too get a bunch of 9's? Nips peaked in PS1 era.
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>>387069456
They will be at least a double B from now on !
Uh ? UH ??!?!
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>>387062691
I don't get it, Platinum doesn't make games like Nier. Why would Nier fans be a "new fanbase"? Oh god please don't pander to weebfaggots
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>>387069348
Sorry buddy, those days are over now. Pray that Ace Combat 7 doesn't become too popular as that will irreversibly fuck up AC threads.
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>>387069405
>Triple A dev studio
>Platinum Games
lel
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>>387069560
That's the kind of person who think Nier is smart. Look at him
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>>387069348
>so that the state of Nier in /v/ is the same as it was before Automata, kinda like Ace combat threads or Monhan threads before world. A corner of peace in the chaos that is /v/.

Imagine being this pathetic, NEEDING to come here to enjoy a game lmfao. I only come here for news ans shitposting. Imagine looking for real discussion on a board with no mods. If you have to discuss a game to enjoy it just kill yourself.
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>>387069456
>>387069654
Bayonetta and MGR are Triple A tier games.
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>>387069405
>Platinum
>Triple A dev studio
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>>387069669
COME ON IT WAS GOOD LAUGH GODDAMNIT
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>>387069756
Neither Bayonetta or Metal Gear Rising was Triple AAA Lol
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>>387069756

They were something like $20 million dollar games. AAA tier is at least $60 million.
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>>387069679
Not him, but sometimes discussing a game is almost as fun as playing it. I had a good time during Automata's and BotWs release, seeing all the details I missed, different people's experience, etc. Dark Souls in particular was a blast, as there was so much to uncover and find that every persons experience was widely different.
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>>387069456
>>387069654
>>387069762
Scalebound was triple AAA game
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>>387069876
Then what the hell is Triple A? Is it a budget thing? I always thought Triple A meant big studio games.
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>>387069756
No, they're not, unless you count cancelled MGS:R and Fox Engine development costs to MGR.
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>>387069106
It also saved my dick from being a flop
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>>387069591
Just make every game with a protagonist that gets dicks hard, nothing else really matters, people will even shill your game for you.
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>>387069949
It's was Microsoft's. Platinum games got paid but they didn't deliver so it got cancelled. The one who actually lost money is M$ and it doesn't make Platinum Games a Triple AAA studio.
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>>387069601
We just need to keep our borders strong to keep out troublemakers.
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>>387069987
It's all about budget.
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>>387066386
>Nier automata
>open world
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>>387069987
>Then what the hell is Triple A?

>An AAA game (usually pronounced "triple A game") is an informal classification used for video games with the highest development budgets and levels of promotion. AAA game development is associated with high economic risk, with high levels of sales required to obtain profitability.
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>>387069756
>>387069876
To be a triple AAA game in modern vidya your game HAS to be publicly advertised. TV adverts and train tube/bus posters.
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>>387064945
>If you give him the same team as Kojima he will make a much better and more thought provoking game.

Death Stranding will stomp a mudhole in this games ass.
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>>387069987
It's primarily a budget consideration. Significant money is spent not just on development, but also advertising. Prestige of the developer and publisher also factors, but can basically be folded into the budget factor.
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>>387069942
Look elsewhere or get friends and put them on. This board literally has no mods, expecting anything but shitposting is ridiculous.
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>>387070187
He already did back with MGS2
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>>387063730

Shooting for wide appeal isn't always a good thing. Hell, I'd go as far to say it's hardly EVER a good thing. A game like NieR: Automata would not have been made like how it was made if it was shooting for like Call of Duty numbers. So many little touches would have been cut or changed to make sure the average consumer would have enjoyed it.
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>>387065035
This guy is fucking based. He's done a lot of help to the nips.
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Nier lucked out since nobody in the US gives a shit about Drakengard
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>>387070187
We will see. Either Death Stranding will live up to the hype and usher in a new age, or it will be MGSV part 3 and everybody will be saying "Konami was right all along" and everybody will have a laugh at Sony flushing $80 million down the toilet.
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>>387065035
Literally who?
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>>387070086
>>387070157
>>387070252
Thanks for the explanation anons,.
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>>387070317
shooting for weeb appeal is just as bad
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>>387064945
Oh look, another taro dick sucker who don't know shit. He had his studio die out, go unemployed for months and square told him straight up to fuck off about making another game unless a good action dev was working on it.
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>>387067023
>hurts it
It completely kills its longevity. The combat is great but you have so little unique landmarks and enemy types to use it in
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>>387069987

AAA is the flagship titles of major studios, i.e. the game with a large budget, marketing and high sales expectation.

Though they like to pretend the AAA tag refers to an A in gameplay, an A in graphics and an A in innovation or some other shit like that the term is really investor speak and originates from the shareholder meetings publishers would hold. A AAA credit rating is the highest rating you can receive, when they told investors a game was "AAA" they were saying they are almost definitely going to make money out of it.
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>>387070420
CEO of Playstation. He's the one that gave Kojima a check without a number on it.
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>>387070317
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>>387070187
Death Stranding will be the same shit as MGSV
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>>387063873
>wishing for a game to fail because its fanbase (on /v/, no less) changed
Fuck right off
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>Andromeda doomed Bioware
>Automata saved Platinum
There is a God and he is heterosexual.
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>>387070639
>Andromeda doomed Bioware
Huh?
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>>387070461
Besides having attractive female characters, what about the game is exactly "weeb"? The only fanservice in the game is entirely optional.
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>>387070549
>Death Stranding will be the same shit as MGSV
So it will sale 6 million copies and still be higher regarded than anything Yoko has done?
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>>387070718
how about every aspect of the plot and its presentation being ripped from anime?
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I wonder if this means we'll get Anarchy Reigns 2 or something.
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>>387070684
You didn't hear? The Bioware division that developed Andromeda was dissolved.
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>>387070639
>Andromeda doomed a part of bioware
ftfy
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>>387070684
The Bioware branch that made Andromeda (I think it was Montreal) was dismantled and reabsorbed by EA after Andromeda bombed.
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>>387070723
Yeah people will usually eat up heavily advertised trash
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>>387070684
Andromeda literally damaged the mass effect ip. Where have you been?
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>>387070009
Mine too, but let's be real here, without 2B being plastered over everything this game would not have garnered as much attention as it did.
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>>387070187
Kojima's games have been getting worse and worse since MGS3
He should've stopped making games ages ago.
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>>387070723
MGSV was completely overshadowed by TW3 and Bloodborne the year it was released though. N:A is on its way to become GOTY.
Not to mention budget.
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>>387070838
So like every other game he's done? Surprise surpise, nip dev takes inspiration from anime, but I don't see anyone calling Drakengard or Nier weebshit.
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>>387070962
Mass Effect 3 already damaged the IP. Andromeda just finished it off. Lets be real, I doubt that EA even cares about Mass Effect now that they have exclusive game rights to Star Wars.
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>>387070903
We will never get a Anarchy Reigns 2.

It might actually do well if they just make it Platinum's Smash Bros
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>>387070684
The devs doing Andromeda aren't doing another AAA game any time soon. EA cut them loose.

>>387070718
Isn't it sad how attractive female characters have now become a "weeb" thing completely gone from west? You can bet your ass half the people whining about weeb ITT are buttblasted a game with an attractive female did well.
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>>387071073
>N:A is on its way to become GOTY.
Anon, I love the game and think it's phenomenal.

but you're a fucktard if you think it has a similar chance of getting GOTY like Zelda or Horizon or even Persona 5.
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>>387070838
Maybe it's a Japanese culture thing more than anime? Because saying a Japanese game is based on an anime is retarded when there is an anime for fucking everything now, including highly western-style stories and settings.
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>>387062691

He's being a little too optimistic. It sounds like the doors were going to close if Nier didn't sell. Nier may have sold but that doesn't absolve years of failures.

Platinum are not saved, they have merely postponed their closure on the back of one success. They actually have to continue to be successful too and their history does not exactly indicate that's going to happen.
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>>387071172
Is Horizon really held in that high regard?
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>>387071137
>The devs doing Andromeda aren't doing another AAA game any time soon. EA cut them loose.
I thought they were making that third person No Man's Sky game that normies were fawning over during Microshit's E3. Does Bioware have multiple studios or what?
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>>387070684
Bioware Montreal has been completely dissolved. We haven't gotten numbers on Andromeda either which kind of implies it sold horribly.
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>>387071293
By normies, hell yeah.
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>>387063680
ah yeah, the only companies who aren't are Kojipro and Fromsoft
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>>387071293
With all that marketing behind it you bet it is!
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>>387071297
>Does Bioware have multiple studios or what?
Yeah. The "A" team is making Anthem
The "B" team is gone the way of the Dodo after Andromeda
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>>387071297
>Does Bioware have multiple studios or what?
EA rebranded a bunch of preexisting studios under the Bioware name. What's left of the original Bioware is working on Anthem.
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>>387064895
Shipments and digital sales passed 1M in April:
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/nier-automata-shipments-and-digital-sales-pass-1-m/1100-6449192/
Shipments and digital sales passed 1.5M in May:
http://www.dualshockers.com/nier-automata-passes-1-5-million-copies-shipped-worldwide/
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>>387071137
>Isn't it sad how attractive female characters have now become a "weeb" thing completely gone from west?

It's not attractive characters that are weeb and attractive characters are still in the west. It's specific Japanese fetishes that are weeb, shit like every female looking 13 years old. The Japanese are very "pornographic" about their shit.
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>>387071248
I'll add to this. I loved Nier Automata but the Platinum incompetence was still present. Why was the game so ugly? Some PS3 games rendered in 1080p looks better. It was a huge failure having Yoshida's art wasted on Platinum's amateur graphic designers. The performance should be locked 60 fps on consoles for what it shows us. Their production values are still awful despite years of practice now. It worked for Revengeance because that game had crazy fast pacing but it doesn't work for Nier where you revisit the same area multiple times.

Platinum still has a lot to prove. In this case, bad presentation was forgiven because everything else was done well. But they won't have that luxury always. They won't always have someone like Taro around.
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>>387071461
>>387071464
So Andromeda really is like Dark Souls 2 or Uncharted 3
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>>387063119
i think you're baiting but i really hope platinum doesn't become intelligent systems
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>>387071539
Every single female character in the game is a grown woman (well except for one technically, but it's not really fetishy)
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>>387071539
What female characters in Nier look 13 except the two girls at the end quite clearly presented as creepy 13 year olds? Both 2B and A2 are 20+.
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>>387071585
>Their production values are still awful despite years of practice now
>what is Bayonetta 2
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>>387071585
It's pretty obvious that they ran out of money halfway through the game. With that in mind the end product that they put out is pretty impressive.
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>>387071719
>no, no, she only LOOKS young, she's actually 2000 years old

You weebs are fucking delusional. Not one person swallows this shit, I don't know why you continue to use it.
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>>387071539
Every android in automata beside 9s units is clearly adult, even 9s is barely shota and more young teenager
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>>387066645
>They should stick with what sells and elaborate upon it in.

So...NieR?
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Literally the first time Kamiya has ever praised anyone besides himself.
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>>387067370
so you're saying that having 3rd party exclusives means you're malicious? Lmfao
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>>387071917
It's a sociopathic, fully clothed AI that has the voice of a grown man, nothing about it is cute in any way.
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>>387072135

Nier did the same number of sales as Bayonetta and MGR. If that wasn't enough to keep the studio strong then why would it be today?

Nier stopped the company from going out of business, that's it. It hasn't single-handedly built it into a powerhouse. Look at the tweet, he's talking about hypothetical new fans and hopeful new employees. It's all head in the clouds hopes and dreams about the future, not really anything meaningful.
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I wonder if this has something to do with scalebound being canceled. I know MS was mostly paying for it but It's still a fuckload of man hours lost over some bullshit
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>>387071917
Are you going mental, neofagger? 2B is not 13. She has the body of a fully grown woman.
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>>387070052
>Platinum didn't deliver so it got cancelled
Source?
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>>387062691
pitiful
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>>387066410
>those are popular
its not. shitposting repeated threads in /v/ doesnt mean its popular. its only popular because you think it is. try to get out of this website sometimes
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>>387072924
>She has the body of a fully grown woman.

It's always the body, isn't it? Certainly can't point to the overtly child-like face, the thing that you lead you creeps to refer to characters as "CUTE!"

Children are cute, adults are not, you pedo freaks.
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>>387072942
I have no official source but
You think Platinum Games can afford to make a game as expensive as Scalebound? The IP is owned by Microsoft and they are the one who funded it in the 1st place. The game was supposed to come out in 2016 and then got delayed to 2017 and it got cancelled early 2017.
+ add to that the fact that all the trailers they have shown
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RR4c3wsFsMM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skIeuo_R-8Y
we poorly received and the fact that japanese game didn't sell great on the bone. The gameplay just wasn’t smooth, the framerate was shit and the mc is annoying. Platinum game just didn't delivered the game on time here.
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>>387070052
Blaming platinum when microsoft cancelled 2 other games before it. Even platinum manages to deliver games in short dev cycles like MGR, it couldn't point to anything other than microsofts fault.
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>>387062691

Alright that tears it. Picking up this game the next time i get paid.
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>>387071585
>Why was the game so ugly?
Why try harder? The GRFX of Gen 8 games have been more like gen 7.25 outside of a handful of tech demos. With the bar set so low, why would they risk pulling aggro on the framerate police?
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>>387073430
its literally a game anon why do you 3d pigs want to be always compare to 2d?
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>>387073430
Are you blind? How does 2bs face look like a childs?
look at >>387072008
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>mid range budget games like NIOH and Nier get critical acclaim and success even tough its not some worldwide extravaganza
>big budget blockbuster titles like Andromeda and Watch dogs 2 fail because of overblown budgets, even tough they sell more they cant make up for the loss on marketing
can you feel it /v/
its AA gaming rising again
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>>387073489
except Scalebound was their 1st AAA game and they failed.
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>>387073902
>baby smooth skin
>small button nose
>large wideset eyes

Yeah, absolutely nothing about that says child to me. Idiot.
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>>387074093
and i also forgot
>NIOH and Nier are more likely to get Sequels than Mass Effect and Watch Dogs
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>>387062691
>shitty nintendo exclusives bombed
>shitty xbox exclusive canceled

>PS4/PC game saved them


What did they mean by this?
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>>387074112
they failed under a company who can only work with yes men
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>>387063873
>muh ekrit club
>huuur waifufags muuuurrrr

I've been on with the series since the original Drakengard and I see no problem with more people being exposed to it. It just means more games in this series so kindly fuck off and drink bleach.
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>>387074152
>women can't look cute or take care of themselves well enough
Are you retarded?
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>>387074152
Hambeasts are the saddest posters.
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>>387073459
>You think Platinum Games can afford to make a game as expensive as Scalebound?
>Platinum game just didn't delivered the game on time here
I'm pretty sure only Microshills believe that,at least after all the trouble Microsoft had with others studios
This isn't the first game Microsoft cancelled a game anon,gotta remember that
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>>387071585

From what I remember, the engine isn't made for large open and seamless areas.

plus the global illumination fucked the performances pretty hard.
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>>387063397
Nier saved Platinum because the Scalebound cancellation fucked them over hard. PG expanded a fuckton to make SC but Microsoft killing meant all the money invested into expanding their capabilities meant nothing.
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>>387074498

No. As the body ages it changes in fairly consistent ways, e.g. proportions, jawline, etc., to give a distinctly different look to an adult as opposed to a child. I'm not going to deny the existence of what are basically genetic freaks but there are certain things that are significantly more common in children than they are in adults. If you find the things far more common in children than adults to be attractive then you are probably a pedophile.
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>>387074864
Japs have small slender faces
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>>387073459
Look up what happened to Phantom Dust. I will guarantee you Platinum went through the very save.
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>>387071917
>>387073430
>>387074152
>>387074864
I know, right? I'M SO SICK OF THESE LOLICON FANTASIES LIKE THE SORCERESS
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>>387074864
Make-up exists to hide aging.

This might come as a huge shock to a hambeast past her prime but most men worldwide prefer women aged 16-19. That is always the preffered age no matter the culture. If you don't want to be reminded of this, go play western games. They'll attempt to shelter you from the truth. Most men find would find 2B attractive in real life. And that drives you mad.
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>>387074972

No, they don't. Not without plastic surgery and some anglo-saxon blood in them.
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>>387074864
Nigga, those features are considered aesthetic and attractive because you look young and healthy. Why do you think women wear makeup?
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>>387075141
>most men worldwide prefer women aged 16-19

Actually, you are utterly wrong. The vast majority of men find woman aged 18-26 to be the most attractive. This is also the prime child-bearing years so it makes perfect sense from an evolution point of view for this to be so.
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>>387074665
I'm not even a microshill but the fact they you blame everything on M$ make you someone who just hate them
>This isn't the first game Microsoft cancelled a game anon,gotta remember that
Yeah same as Sony and Nintendo?
Here from one day ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ux2YRVokMGo
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>>387071098
It technically already was that.
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>>387075334
Women looking attractive is now pedophilia.

You read it on /v/eoGaf first!
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I just want them to make one more tmnt game now since activision lost the license just show me they can do
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>>387075050
And what did Platinum games did with Scalebound? Was there anything to be excited about? The published just didn't want to throw any more money on this.
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What is it about this game that makes people so angry?
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>>387075419
First Party internal game vs third party partnership (which we know Microsoft constantly fucks up)
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>>387075415
>This is also the prime child-bearing years
Prime child-bearing is at the dawn of initial teenage ovulation. And then fertility rates drop every year after that.
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>>387075419
santa monica is a mess of a studio, while platinum consistently deliver.
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>>387075608
/v/ is always angry.
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>>387066078
That's more of a Zenimax thing desu
Honestly I'd sooner flip my shot over Activision getting a grip on them if they didn't already
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>>387067493
Obsidian was just a sliver from dying because of that shit.
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>>387075617
Sure :^)
I remember all the threads about scalebound here, everyone was saying how bad it was and how great Nie was (Nier being less expensive to make compared to Scalebound). Yeah Scalebound was bad from what it was shown. PG was about to do a bad game that keep getting delayed.
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>>387075687

The fertility drop and the increase of likelihood for birth defects is insignificant until early 30s.

The prime child bearing years are not the years where the child bearer is both physically and mentally incapable of raising a child well, you fucking idiot.
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>>387075608
It takes away attention from the true patrician choice.
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>>387075050
Abridged version of what MS did to Phantom Dust devs for the lazy:
>It was a big deal for them and they were contracted to make the game an online only title for $5 million. It was a tall order but the team was determined. Then Microsoft went on to reveal the game at E3 without telling them using a trailer they didn’t even make themselves, demand a single-player mode after development started despite not giving the studio anymore money and eventually making things harder when Ken Lobb told fans the game’s story mode would be 30 hours, not the 6-hour mode Microsoft and Darkside had agreed upon.
http://gimmegimmegames.com/2015/04/the-story-behind-how-microsoft-sabotaged-phantom-dust-developer-darkside-studios/

It's like MS doing the least amount of effort they can to pretend they're trying, then try and hype things up and promise the heavens, then when it explodes in their faces because they're not being realistic they pass the blame off on the developer.
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>>387074192
Automata is the sequel
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>>387075993
>mentally incapable
>thinking it matters the slightest
tumblr is here lads. Go on. Tell us how much better an experienced and "wise" 30 year old with dying ovaries is over prime jailbait booty.
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>>387075990
>Obsidian was just a sliver from dying because of that shit.

On the contrary, Chris Avellone very specifically said absolutely nothing of the sort happened to Obsidian while developing NV. They got the contract, they were given the money, they fulfilled the contract to Bethesda's satisfaction, both companies parted ways more or less amicably except for Feargus Urquhart complaining that Bethesda's QA team was too good at finding bugs. They made absolutely no attempt to "screw" Obsidian or buy the studio.
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>>387076080
Wouldn't that be DoD 1?
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>>387062691
>Normally I can't help but to do everything by myself
That's a mistranslation. Correct would be:
>These are all the things I was supposed to have done (i.e. these were all my responsibility to make sure got done)
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>>387075991
Scalebound didn't look impressive, sure, but I'm still willing to believe PG over MS when it comes to the game being cancelled because one is known to release game, while the other constantly sabotages its studios and partners.
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>>387076080
Drakengard 3 was pretty shit and only had a few good moments in it.pic related
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>>387075419
>you blame everything on M$ make you someone who just hate them
But I don't? In fact I'm planning to buy another 360 soon.
I just implied only microshills think Microsoft is blameless on this situation,their past history makes hard to believe they didn't mismanaged again and you seem to really believe it was entirely Platinum's fault the game didn't come.
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>>387076181
>mental maturity is not necessary to the raising of a child

You're not serious, are you? It's not "tumblr", it's being fucking sensible. You want proof? Look at the black population of America.
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>>387075816
Zenimax is literally just a shell company created by Bethesda to handle all their publishing interests.
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>>387076607
That's already two good reasons why it's so patrician.
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>>387062691
and yet that subhuman manlet mongrel can't stop sucking Nintendo's dick and have it up his ass, trying to push Platinum to make games for that retarded Fisher Price of video games company, shitting out turds like Star Fox Zero and W101.
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>>387063873
Fucking nigger "memes" like this piss me off.
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>>387062953
You're right, it's legit great.
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>>387070490
>It completely kills its longevity.
Meanwhile, Automata is a half-game done thrice.
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>>387062691
PC gaming is saving japanese games.
Feels good man.
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>>387077760
1. No, that's OG Nier.
2. Automata isn't focused on character action. Platinum simply helped out with giving Automata a framework to run on and threw in some of the basic machinations of a trademark combat system. It's still structured like an ARPG more than anything
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>>387064324
>>387067696
>IT'S NOT AN ACTION GAME, IT'S AN ACTION RPG, REEEEEEEE!
If it's an action RPG, then why are the RPG elements so completely meaningless? It's an action game.
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>>387067095
>$60 for 8 horus

nah
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>>387077881
>Play through as 2B
>Play through as 9S
>Play through it a third time for ending C or D
>Play thorugh it a fourth time for the true ending E
It's a half-game done four times.
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>>387078103
>hurr durr the C/D branch is the same plot as A/B
>actually fucking implying C, D, and E all need separate playthroughs
You're actually talking out your ass then. Good job
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Without the 2B ass spamming Nier Automata would never have broken into more mainstream circles. People may love it for other reasons, but 2B's ass is what shattered the glass ceiling.
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>>387078103
The third playthrough is entirely new content and ending E is not a playthrough it's a direct continuation from C or D (depending on which one you choose.) You haven't played the game or you're baiting
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Nice, I usually pirate games, but this is the first full priced game I've bought in years.
I love the game, I'm craving to replay it, but keep holding out for 'proper' dlc... which there wont be... :(
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>>387077917
>I AM SILLY

My point is that you shouldn't compare it to games like DMC or Bayo because it was never meant to compete with them. Complaining about its RPG elements being pretty shallow is perfectly valid but their lack of depth doesn't somehow bump it over to being a straight character action game.
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>>387065378
PLEASE GOD
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>>387067626
Maybe you didn't enjoy the game because you're fucking retarded and have no memory, sense of direction or ability to read maps then
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>>387076491
>Bethesda's QA team was too good at finding bugs.
Why don't they put some of that effort into their own games?
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>>387063873
That's sad and you're sad
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>>387062916
I'm more sad about no MGR2 than I am about MGS ending the way it did. MGR was great considering the troubles it had, a sequel really could have been amazing.
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>>387065378
I do wonder if he is able to salvage the ideas and features of Scalebound and make a new game that was going to be it with another studio as it was suppose to be his "dream game"

I still don't get what happened with Microsoft as several companies were able to work with Platinum to make their games without a problem.
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>One of the last devs focused on making pure Action games had its biggest success ever with an ARPG with a super simple combat system.

F to this genre I guess.
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>>387079307
Probably corporate meddling, demands that they make it more like Dark Souls one day, and more like Final Fantasy XIV the next. It's Microsoft after all, that has consistently been their reputation in this industry, meddling corporate types that blindly chase trends and are deathly afraid of originality and creativity.
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>>387079398
I'm pretty sure Bayonetta has more sales than Automata
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>>387079307
Microsoft tended to pull things like this >>387076124 and then backseat dev until you pull through by some miracle, or fail and they pull out.

>No more than a week after they’d signed the contract, according to several ex-Darkside employees, Microsoft’s team came back to the studio with a new request: they wanted a single-player campaign. “They decided that fans were gonna want a single-player game,” said a person who worked on the project. “But they weren’t going to change the budget or the timeframe.”
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How mad is Microsoft kikes that they weren't able to kill Plat?
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>>387065159
2B isn't even best girl in her own game
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>>387066187
What did Activision do to them?
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>>387077965
>8 hours
0/10
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>>387079838
>big corporate like (((M$))) caring about a small studio like PG
Lel, they are probably more mad about the money they lost into the 3 years of devellopement of Scalebound.
That's why they renewed the IP recently.
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Why is a big part of /v/ so bitter at Nier's success?
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Nier remaster for ps4 when? Never had ps3 and always wanted to try it
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>>387079915
>Arguing about best girl 5 months after the game's launch

I thought waifu fags would of died off quicker
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>>387063062
Bayonetta didn't need a fucking meme to sell. Stop overselling the importance of shitty internet jokes over being an actual fucking good game.
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>>387071293
Wouldn't be surprised if it wins GOTY for some outlets:

>Open world meme
>Le strong female protagonist
>Only decent AAA Westernshit game this year
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>>387062691
Now if only that cancerious publisher could go ahead and remove denuvo so I can buy it, that'd be great.
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When are they going to deliver Granblue Relink?
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>>387078973
Bethesda is bad at writing and continuity. QA isn't going to pay any real attention to that. They will however find lots of technical issues that Obsidian is notoriously bad at managing. I really just don't get why Obsidian hasn't staffed a full time programmer after so many years of buggy as shit, borderline unplayable releases.
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>>387080257
Literally because most of /v/ only wants TORtanic-level disasters to come. The quality of this site has tanked in recent years even comparitively
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>>387080332
>needing Denuvo removed to buy it
I don't get it, didn't all the adverse effects of Denuvo get rectified?
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>>387067493
Zionmax are one of the scummiest companies in gaming.
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>>387080257
/v/ has been shitposting this game since it was announced. I still remember anons trying to convince everyone the game was shit based on a Japanese stream.
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>>387062820
UGHHH, BROWNER...
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>>387080257
Part old Tarofags who think the game is weaker than his past stuff and so hate that it's become his most popular by a huge margin (as well as bringing some cancerous faggots to the fanbase), part Platfags who came in expecting the next MGR and part shitposters who feel the need to correct people on /v/ who like any game they personally don't care for.
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>>387080764
Stop masturbating to pictures of me.
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>not a single person has thanked SE for teaming up yoko with platinum
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>>387080257
>big part
There's literally no way it's more than two or three bootyblasted faggots
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>>387062691
Feels good West Cucks are losing the video game war.

I didn't even shed a tear when Bioware Montreal got shut down and absorbed by another country.
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>>387080257
I think it's one half shitposters and the other people now being contrarian because Nier is popular.

Quite frankly, I'm glad Nier got a sequel and that people are enjoying it
>>
is nier 2 really that good?
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>>387080257
Have you ever been a fan of something "cult" like Drakengard and the first Nier? Then had to live to see normies, ironic weebs and other cancer start playing the latest one while disregarding everything else because of Platinum Games and 2B ass memes?

If you have, you would understand the frustration
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>>387080656
Its a VM that obfuscates engine start code, or its supposed to.
RiME crack proves that its up to the individual devs how they implement it.
When pirates crack/bypass it, that becomes the better version immediately. I don't give money to publishers that decide to use this, the game is good on its own, it will sell(witcher 3 for example). This is squeenix basically saying we don't believe our game is good. Fuck that
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>>387080963
>literally no one know that the money came out from the publisher Square enix
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>>387081393
Most of those people didn't even play the game beyond Route A, so I wouldn't worry about it.
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>>387063873
Taroshit was never good and his fanbase always consisted from delusional idiots.
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>>387063006
Yuji Horii and a Square exec who's good friends with Taro also saved Taro. Actually, a lot of people saved Taro. Wish someone would end the FF team.
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>>387062691
Well, it is basically a match made in heaven, Yoko Taro always made amazing stories but also went a bit to hard on making the player suffer alongside the characters and PADDING, Platinum makes amazing gameplay but has a tendency to make things "too short" for the average consumer, since they focus on Ranking and the players challenging themselves, their issues get cancelled out be the others virtue.

It being a success to this degree is heartwarming since it means they will likely collab.
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>>387080257
You can't deny that the "2BOOTY SIT ON MY FACE" fanbase that it attracted can be pretty obnoxious.
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>>387082269
>Wish someone would end the FF team.
wut
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>>387073430
>3DPD roastie is jealous as fuck that a vidya character looks better than her

Not even surprised.
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>>387082835
It's a shitposter buttblasted that XV is a better game than Automata in every way.
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Nier Automata Save Platinum

Platinum Saved Yoko Taro

PS4 saved everyone 1.4mil sales ww vs 400k PC
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>>387064887
I think Taro would ruse him into doing what he wanted and then Kamiya would do it in style
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More like Akihiko Yoshida saved Platinum Games.
The main appeal of Automata was the design.
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>>387083137
The main appeal was the ass, which credit goes to their 3D modellers for. It isn't prominent in any of Yoshida's art at all.
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>>387064053
>that is largely popular because of the robot waifu ass.
>got praised by western reviwers that are famous for hating fanservice games.

Hmmm
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>>387083463
>It isn't prominent in any of Yoshida's art at all.

Now you're just straight up lying. Every single female character in Yoshida's original N:A sketches had extremely pronounced wide hips. Even A2, who doesn't have them in the game.
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>>387083463
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>>387074152

if you leave your rape dungeon once in a while, you might actully realize that some women look like that
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>>387077835
Fucking this. He wouldn't have said this if it was an exclusive.
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>>387077835
>not even half the sales on ps4
>saving
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>>387071073
>MGSV was completely overshadowed by TW3 and Bloodborne
I just like when people say stupid shit and then actually believe themselves
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>>387083463
>It isn't prominent in any of Yoshida's art at all.
Yes, ass isn't prominent in any of the Akihiko "The Thigh Thug" Yoshida's art.
Anon, you are really talking out of your ass right now.
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>>387080301
>Bayonetta didn't need a fucking meme to sell

Yeah and sold like shit from their expectations
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>>387071073
>MGSV was completely overshadowed by TW3 and Bloodborne the year it was released though
It sold way more than BB and was better released. TW3 was definitely the GOTY but MGSV wasn't really overshadowed just because we didn't like it. Hell I bet Fallout 4 even sold more.

What you should be saying is that Bloodborne was overshadowed.
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>>387080257
Because it's a boring and shallow as fuck game that's popular for reasons that have nothing to do with its gameplay.

>Platinum games
>Yoko Taro silliness
>Waifu ass
All those contribute to immense dicksucking despite the game having no real merits.
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>>387085792
>no real merits.
fag
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>>387064782
I mean, I guess you can call him consistent, but 3 hours of cutscenes in a row is hardly tight.
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>>387086040
Fap bait is not a gameplay merit.
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>>387085792
True, I bet art holds "real merit" to the blind, deaf or retarded.
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>>387086293
it's exactly this that makes you a fag.
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>>387062691
that's nice. now make another mgr.
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>>387070392

I was gonna say it was going to sell well either way. However, given that it's Kojima we're talking about, it might not matter.
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>>387086293
This post doesn't make you any less of a fag.
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>>387086293
You didn't say gameplay merits. You just said merits. Attractive design is a merit though it neither affects gameplay negatively or positively.
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>>387086375
>>387086506
>>387086514
Fap bait like 2B is a dime a dozen. So yes, she's not a merit, neither from a gameplay standpoint nor from a design standpoint.
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>>387086293
>most stylish combat of almost any game ever
>no meric
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>>387080257

Because Taro isn't their seekret dev anymore. /v/'s pet franchises must be unpopular, because of the fear of normies.
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>>387070392
mgsv was well received though.
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>>387086636
>>most stylish combat of almost any game ever
>Hold shoot button and circle strafe enemies to win
>Random flurry effects
>fun, engaging, or stylish
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Nier 3 is going to have online Multiplayer.
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>>387082835
they need to be put out of their misery
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>>387064945
>Taro is nowhere near Kojima because he never got a competent team
this is kind of stupid because MGSV never had good tech until V and that game was fucking shit.
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>>387086750
There is at least 5 or 6 FF team or more.
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>>387086739
Why are you so mad at this game with the most stylish combat around? Nintendler?
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Anyone have the webm of the female bot who isn't 2B walking in booty shorts? Asking for a friend.
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>>387086918
every
last
one
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>>387086745
nier MMO when?
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>>387087045
I doubt SE has the resources for a FOURTH MMORPG. Maybe they could get NCsoft to make it.
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>eat shit man came THIS close to eating shit
fuck
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>>387087384
it's just him brushing taro's ego, platinum was doing fine but now it's doing better.
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>>387086602
You don't see it too often in Triple A games. Which is a shame because often when I'm playing an rpg I found myself wish to play a good game with a cute girl as the MC. Nier gets close to it, though I really wish I could play a good roleplaying game where I can plays as cute girl.
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>>387063725
A page out of Kojima's book
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>>387069987
yeah, but remember that AA is a thing and it's what those releases fall under since their budgets aren't bloated monstrocities
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>>387080257
It that whole reddit "I HATE ANIME!" crowd
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Gib Bayo 3 now
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>>387078831
>Complaining about its RPG elements being pretty shallow is perfectly valid but their lack of depth doesn't somehow bump it over to being a straight character action game.

I like Automata and most Platinum games that I've played.

It's pretty indistinguishable when you get down to it.With grinding being largely unnecessary (and crazy easy seeing as how there is a chip that heals you for every kill + a infinite hoard grind pit) leveling is pretty meaningless in most situations. Especially if you do the sidequests.

Is that the only things separating the genres? Side quests and a leveling system?
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>>387065053
None of those game mention had a good story to back it up, Platinum is in desperate need of hiring good writers and it worked out with Taro. The two compliment each other, Platinum doing the combat/gameplay and Taro doing the writing. It works.
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