nioh thread

>>387055976
is it me or did the volume of off topic threads increase

How do I git gud? It took me 2 days to get past the 1st demon.

>>387057000
you stop getting hit

>>387055976
>nioh thread
This board is for discussing video games, not garbage.

>>387057000
start ki pulsing and fluxing
learn enemy movesets and punish them
learn weak spots of demons (horns of yokai, glowing amrita spot on wheelmonk)
invest in either ninjutsu or magic and get yourself some buffs/debuffs

>>387057392
thankfully we're talking about an excellent game and not your mother

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>>387057392
Stay unenlightened.

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>every weapon feels like shit compared to kusarigama

>>387057000
get ki pulse into muscle memory asap, that's the most important thing

getting good comes naturally from there

>>387058090
I like 2kat. Being a human blender is unmatched, but to each their own. Also, Raijiri made me stick to 1kat for a while. Elemental effects are too good.

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>>387058090
ODACHI
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>>387058514
Raikiri is trash outside of NG because it has a locked CtA with only C scaling

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Who kisarigama here?

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>>387058939
>can never decide between kusarigama+1kat or kusarigama+spear

>pirate clan gives over 40 luck per piece of armor at max rank

wew

time to farm

>>387058783
When you first get it, it's really good though. I did drop it a little while later for one of the other elementals.

Havent played it in months, think I was at some bullshit with those guitar asshole demons. Should I just start over from the beginning?

>>387059387
There's really no reason to make new a new char due to the abundance of respec items.

>>387058514
I'm currently doing 2kat/odachi onmyo run but i can't see myself really maining 2kats despite how good they look with a big-ass weapon on your back. Really limited moveset variety.

I really like this game, but Jesus Christmas, it is so damn long. My first playthrough, and only playthrough as of right now, took sixty hours. That's the only reason why I haven't gone back for a second playthrough yet.
Well, that and the horrible final boss.

>>387058090
All the weapons are great and fun to use though. Kusarigama is just OP as shit as well and the outlier in that regard.

>>387059035
doesn't kusari have a good body scaling?
pair that shit with a spear and go nuts nigga

>>387059526
I just meant from a story standpoint. I dont know what the fuck is going on

>>387056820
Nioh is no longer getting generals on vg so the threads are being made here.

>>387058783

True, but lightning element is just so good that I can handle a minor hit to scaling, especially on higher difficulties. You can still put familiarity scaling and close combat attack +20% on there regardless.

>>387058775
It sucks that there are 50000 different katanas and like 6 Odachi.

>>387059984
body is gay, if I want more health, I tend to dumb stamina instead

they do both have good skill scaling, but so does 1kat

the problem is I really like all 3 weapons

>>387060087
thats fine, no one knows

>>387059984
It has Body scaling but it scales better with Skill. I don't think scaling alone is that much of a reason to choose a second weapon though. Picking one to cover weaknesses would be a better idea but
>Kusarigama
>weaknesses
Best just to pick another weapon you enjoy the most, but of course no reason to stick to only two anyway.
>>387060087
You can replay the cutscenes in the Amrita Memories menu and reread info stuff as well as new ones you unlocked.

>>387060151
well call me when its on pc

ive already played dark souls and way of the samurai 4 to death

>>387060087
>Story
lmao Willy has to beat magic snek man and there are some slant eyes with ghosts floating around them arguing over who gets to rule the rice paddies.

Thats the fucking story.

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>>387060305
it cant be helped

most people where either too weak or uncreative to even use them properly

but the unique odachi from the people who actually use them are better then most katanas

>>387060471

>not enjoying Sengoku Era Japan

Pleb detected.

>>387060295
You can easily roll lightning on a weapon at higher difficulties though. Being stuck with C CtA is pretty big when you could be rocking AA. Mikazuki Munechika is best for lightning. It'll give you a guaranteed roll of lightning that tends to be higher than Raikiri, it has a higher attack multiplier and it doesn't restrict your CtA.

I think Raikiri is fine for all of WotSa and probably most of WotStr but after that, C CtA makes it not good.

>>387060783

Yeah, but MM doesn't have that sick visual and sound lightning effect on the sword.

Did they nerf 2kat's windstorm?
I remember it hitting way harder.

>>387060980
It doesn't? I thought just using the element changed the effects of the weapon.

Either case, couldn't you just refashion?

>>387058775
what level do you have to be to do such insane damage?
im already using weapons level 180 10+ and have a level over 220 and even use blood pills and weaken the defense of the enemies but still only do max 8k damage from behind

or is there a different trick to this?

>>387061012
All the broken shit got nerfed while bad shit (like the axe's entire kit) got buffed over time.

The Katana's Haze parry used to be the most broken shit in the game, they nerfed it pretty hard and now people just use Backwave.

>>387061454
at that time

200+15 with buffs

as well as 2 12% CCD set bonuses and tatenashi's Equipment weight A+ scaling

Is bloodstained cleaver the best odachi? That damage passive on max health looks fairly cool if you're rocking protecting talismans.

>>387061454
judging from his health, I'd guess he's got 99 in stamina and probably 99 in another odachi stat

looks like WotD damage numbers

>>387061539
what did they buff about axe? I've been kind of wanting to do an axe build again.

>>387061567
Either ethereal monoshizao or usami nagamitsu

stacking set bonuses is op

>>387061539
>Haze
Reminder that Haze made perfect sense in the Alpha and didn't need the buff at all, and the nerf still misses the point when they could have just changed it back to how it used to be.

>>387061539
Funny thing is, backwave has always been more broken than haze and it's been left untouched.

>>387061812
how was haze different in the alpha?

>>387061662
>what did they buff about axe? I've been kind of wanting to do an axe build agai
Basically all of its kit was improved. Titanic Strength does fantastic damage and Lumber Chop is incredible now, which is impressive considering how underwhelming it used to be.

The axes "parry" now does solid damage, the roar ability where you charge into the enemy puts humans into the final blow state more easily now, and finally I think they buffed Cloud Crush's damage a little though I might be mistaken.

Axe as a whole was seriously improved.

I really love that they made opening new regions faster in ng+, i could get to magatama farming in like 20 minutes this time.

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>>387062178
I've always thought lumber chop was good.

>>387061820
Yeah but people didn't abuse it as much. And now it's the only parry worth using so they can't nerf it or the katana won't have a good parry.

>>387062178
Shame it's still shittier than odachi, especially after odachi buffs.

>>387062329
Oh ho ho, sorry bud but the Odachi isn't even able to come close to Axe's damage output. There are no Odachi builds that equal the One Chop.

Odachi is fine, but it can't compare to the Axe's power.

>>387062312
>people didn't abuse it as much
I don't know about other people, but I've abused the shit out of it.

Water Shadow isn't bad for ninjutsu builds because exposing their back lets you stunlock them to death with kunai. You just don't do the follow up slash and start mashing kunai instead.

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>>387061894
Shoulda just posted this too huh? I'm silly. Anyway, as the webm shows it would cause them to fall down, but didn't do much damage or Ki damage. You could stab them after but overall it wouldn't add up to as much as you could potentially get with Water Shadow, but it made it perfect for fights with multiple enemies as you could put one out of commission quickly (important since successful parries didn't have nearly as much invincibility as they do now) and focus on others while they have to get up. It made the three into a nice triangle where all were useful for different things.

>>387062329
I've never felt this way.

Axe isn't as good against groups, but its damage and ki damage is amazing.

>>387062491
I could probably out damage the axe with living weapon odachi build or something

>>387062491
>moonlit snow x3
poof
the only thing going on for axes is better set bonuses but as far as moveset variety and overall usability goes it fucking destroys axe
on top of that odachi has the best LW mode in the entire game because of moonlit snow

>>387062591
Living weapon cheese isn't exclusive to Odachi though, any weapon can do it.

>>387062758
Not every weapon has such a good usable special in LW mode.

Does it worth levelling the spirit stat (other than getting the guardian spirit bonuses) for living weapon builds?

>>387062950
not really

it's more worthwhile to pump up a damage stat instead

on LW builds I don't generally go above 30 or 40 spirit

While I love it, I'm getting a little tired of 1kat+kusari.

What would be a good counterpart to axe besides 1kat?

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>>387061078

Refashioning is for cowards

>>387063334

Spear. Axe doesn't have that great of a range.

>>387063334
I would say spear, but use what's most fun for you.

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>pick the game up yesterday
>struggling with the second boss, falling back on Souls muscle memory but the timing is very different in this game as well as stamina management
>every fucking death I respawn to these fuckers playing their flutes badly to humiliate me

Rage inducing.

Turns out I just needed to use guardian spirit more.

>>387063547

Guardian spirit is good, but the second boss is indeed a casual filter.

Pay 2 ninja points to get shuriken. A single one knocks her out of the air for free hits. Just do no more than two combos, because she gets up into a grab attack that's probably a one-hit kill

>>387063547
man

is it that hard to time a fucking button press every few seconds?

>>387063547
The less you view the combat as being like Souls, the better you'll do. Take some time to practice it a little if you need to, Ki Pulse in particular drastically opens up the combat. Also do not bully the kodama band.

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>>387058939

>>387063547
drop the souls playstyle

just learn to ki pulse and get that in muscle memory, after that it'll get much easier

>>387060305
there were more famous katanas than odachi. same with every other weapon in the game, since there are by far more unique and named katanas than anything else

>>387063547
one souls habit to drop is mashing dodge after taking a hit.
in Nioh you can guard faster than you can dodge after hit stun.

>>387063741
Is there any ninja/magic stuff really worth getting?

I went for power pills and the fire talismans but they seem a waste honestly. Not a noticeable difference anyway.

>>387063816
Yeah I think they're similar but Nioh is way more punishing if you get greedy trying to get in that extra hit in. Died quite a lot to an enemy with 10% or less hp. I get it now though, feels like i've got over that curve.

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>play battle of skill pvp
>all these scrubs who REFUSE to kipulse even once


free wins I guess

Is there any reason to stop leveling like Dark souls or not? I've been staying at level 120 since its worked fine for the first dlc so far and just upgrading Atlas Bear

>>387064687
nope, no reason to stop as pvp is now premade builds

>>387064687
Maybe if you want to make things more challenging. But then you could just use low level gear. So no, not really.

>>387064527
Yes. Take some time to go through them and look at what they do. It's harder to find onmyo and ninjutsu that aren't useful than ones that are.

Both onmyo and ninjutsu get extremely strong later depending on how you build. But there are basic ones that go good on almost any build. Ever played Demon's Souls? Quick Change scrolls are basically second chance 2.0.

>>387064527

Fire talismans will be good for the fifth boss since it's resistant to physical damage but weak to fire damage. Power pills are a good passive buff but you only get really high damage with boosts that give debuffs as well. The carnage talisman boosts attack much more but lowers defense in the process, and leeching talisman makes your attack skyrocket but makes you take a non-negligible amount of damage per second.

Either way, For ninja stuff, groundfire traps make human fights much easier, and free projectiles are always good. Both Ninja and Magic get much better once you unlock their mystic arts, but you need 20 in Dex/Magic respectively and the mission you need for them don't unlock until around the halfway point.

But still, regeneration and oasis talismans are great to preserve elixirs for tough fights.

>>387064687
Being a lower level than revenants in the area you're in (staying a lower level than the rest of the playerbase) inflates their difficulty and greatly improves their drop rate. That's about it though.

>>387064527
Ki Pulse is what facilitates being able to get that extra hit. You have to be more careful with your Ki when it's low (not as careful as you should have to be since it's different now) but as you get more comfortable with your attacks and Ki Pulsing you'll be able to stretch that bar much further and avoid getting hit anyway since that's all that matters now.

As for Ninjutsu and Onmyo, yeah most of it is actually very useful, with quite a bit of it being pretty overpowered, so have a look through all of them and see what sounds useful for your particular playstyle. Fire talismans for example are good for their elemental properties if you don't have a weapon with it.

>>387064790
>>387064881
Righto, gonna start leveling again after maxing Atlas Bear then
>>387065029
I dont play online so this is irrelevant in my case as far as im aware

>>387065376
why skip out on free gear from revenants

>>387064527

Tons. You're basically fucking yourself over for not speccing into magic or ninjutsu, especially since you get free hairs throughout the game. Quick Change Scroll and Extraction Talisman are some of the best items, but most of the items have some sort of value.

>>387065376
It's really worth it later on for divine fragments, even if you don't actually coop or pvp. You also get glory from them which is a currency used to buy things later.

You can't just farm developer revenants because they don't have gear like a regular player would. While a normal person would have full divines/ethereals, a dev revenant will just have blues and purples and maybe 1 divine, on average.

>>387065445
>>387065721
Because im still on my first playthrough and i'd rather fight the pre-placed revenants with dialogue than see a million player revenants clutter up the area
Ill probably go online later if i ever need to grind, but for now i'll stick with the dev revenants

>>387065869
That's fine.

Just know that when you get to WotStr and WotD, you'll be making things significantly more difficult on yourself if you don't make use of player revenants.

>>387065869
what the fuck? there is still dialogue with revenants post patches

>>387066056

Yeah, but he's saying that it's more immersive to just have the dev revenants.

>new character
>have to beat the Centipede with axe/odachi
It's not workin lads. Did it with my first character, did it with Spear/Ninjutsu, but it's just not workin here. I want it to end.

>>387066742
devigorate talismans, wind and weaken melee weapons

>>387066742
>having problems with centipede of all things
block its attack
block poison/paralysis blast
counter attack

>>387066742
Centipede is easy though, what part of it is giving you trouble? If anything those weapons would make it even easier since they'd be better at smacking it's head.

There are odachis now? When did this happen? This shit is sick.

>>387067405
He just takes about 40 odd million damage and outlasts me with the poison and bullshit. His pattern is easy enough, it's just that all the chipping adds up. I could just throw a million storm kunai and haraku dama at him in ninja or a bunch of elemental shots on my first character, but he takes too much damage from my situation as it stands. I just need to optimize a little and maybe use Moment Talismans.

>>387066742

Pop spirit stones and living weapon him when he gets more segments. try and make him curl around before he attacks so your sweeping strikes can hit every part of him.

>>387067465

Odachis came in DLC1, tonfas are in DLC2. DLC3 will introduce another weapon, but it's not confirmed what it will be yet.

>>387067706
Would a Lunar staff or Naginata be too redundant with Spears?

>>387068201

Nagitate might be cool. I mean, odachis splay differently than katanas, so why not?

>>387068201
naginata is different enough from a spear

it's heavily weighted and handles more like a club than a spear but the last weapon will probably be dual revolvers

>>387067591
Really? With the heaviest single hit damage weapons there are? I dunno man, I didn't have any issues and I was using 3kat. Using the height to do drop attacks is really effective, if a little harder to do on his head than for removing the rocks. He attacks slowly so you should be able to get hits in then dodge his attacks, just beware of how his movement is an attack if you end up going too far away.
>>387068201
They could make them play differently but I think the last weapon might be one of those ringed staves as a Magic scaling weapon. I suppose naginata could do that too but the staff would maybe be a bit more different.
>>387068397
I don't think they'd have a ranged weapon only since those don't have skill trees, but I honestly think the dual pistols would work better as an item. They removed the quick shot from bows in Alpha so I get the feeling they don't want to bring that back, and aiming wouldn't really fit with how they were used.

>>387068643
It would be pretty interesting if they did revolver+1kat as a single weapon, like in ishin.

So I finished WotD with a tank Odachi build absolutely no problems except Maria, and I hear everything does crazy damage in WotW. Are tank buildds still viable?

>>387068981
they are, but only after some pretty intense farming

best tank build for clearing WotW is 5 piece bonus from Tatenashi with 6 piece bonus from Grace of Oyamatsumi for a total of over 25% damage reduction just from set bonuses.

Good luck on getting 2 usable ethereal melee weapons with that grace and no wasted slots, 2 usable ethereal ranged weapons with that grace and no usable slots and a piece of heavy armor with it too. You'll eventually get it, but it's a long process, even with a farming build.

>>387068981

I did WotW with mostly Tatenashi+WotE+Todo clan at 99 Stam and 99 body, B agility. I was rocking about 7K health after armor piece life bonuses and had a challenging but not insurmountable time. You won't be able to just take attacks willy-nilly, but my build made it so that you could take 2-3 hits before dying, which made things much easier.

>>387069634
>2-3 hits before dying
That's not very relieving, considering I was pretty much immortal in WotD.
Did you use Devigorate, Weaken Melee or Wind?

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>3 hours
>24 IPs

>>387070001
Does this disturb you in some way?

I'm going to be forever mad if they don't show Okatsu in the last dlc.

>>387070374
Honestly i wish they never introduced her, dicking the evil out of Maria sounds so much better.

>>387069768

Nah, in fact I probably made myself more vulnerable with carnage talisman. Wasn't hardcore enough for leeching, though.

>>387070001

>niche game has few posters

Stop the fucking presses.

>>387068819
revolvers arent invented yet in the 1600s

Gonna mention again that Degeneration talismans are a great but limited way of removing the whole "everything dies before I can even blink if I try just a little" issue.

>>387071352
saika's elite faggot unit seems to think otherwise

>>387057414
This. Ki pulsing is your friend.
It seems hard at first but just think of it like the active reload from gears of war. After that it just becomes a reflex.

>>387071619
GODDAMN NIPS TAKIN CREDIT FOR TAKIN WHITE MAN INVENTION

>>387071619
Pretty sure those are just matchlocks but for the sake of gameplay reload them really quickly, just like your own rifles.

>>387070249
>>387070613

*throws them back into the pond*

Swim away my pretties, i have bigger fish to catch.

>>387071767
they look like they have a cylinder on the end, but I could be wrong

Is odachi's iai the only one with hyperarmor?

>>387072426
probably

>>387072426
its for the best

>>387072426
Tiger Sprint has it too, on 1kat.

new player with kusa what overall build and what ninjitsu should i bet aiming for first? please and thank you

>>387073250

Sneak Attack
Quick Change
Medicine Man

Maybe Makibishi and Groundfire

Just get whatever you want after those. Shurikens and kunai are cool but they require a big investment to get really good returns on them, which isn't a realistic option at the beginning.

>>387073250
>what overall build
you can get by just by pumping the shit out of dex honestly
there's only one kusa set in the game and it's ninjutsu-boosting
>what ninjitsu should i bet aiming for first
entire shuriken tree, paralysis groundtraps for humanoids, quick-change, blinding shell to get rid of enemy attack tracking

>>387073250
Anything you want. Most if not all of it is good and useful. Just asking for random suggestions like that will just railroad your playthrough into being like someone elses even if you have a different build or gameplan, as well as ruin the fun experimentation phase. Respeccing is very easy.

best way to level up in way of the strong?

>>387074186

Blasting through it and going to WotD/WotW as soon as you can.

>>387073604
Tiger running is fun

>>387072806
Yeah but TS isn't good

>>387074591
It's alright, it's not a skill for damage specifically but it still does decent damage and has an easy to get set bonus for it too.

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>tfw stuck in early wotd and I don't know what gear build to use

>>387075376
tank

4 pieces of tatenashi

>>387075376
Go full kunai spammer.

>>387076979
>>387075376

Yeah, on WotD, full kunai is still the "I win" button.

>>387077536
it's "i win" button on any difficulty with a right setup
like, dash attack damage x2 buff applies to thrown weapons for example

>>387077716

WotW requires a lot more care though. You can no longer just eat through ki, and a lot of enemies poise through it so you need to time your spamming.

I actually wonder if it's possible to make an optimized kunai spammer with heavy armour. Kunai don't require stamina so ideally you can kill two birds with one stone by having reliable ranged options and being extremely tanky at the same time.
What's my options here, kusari from Hanzo's set for LW replenishment is a given, but are there any armour sets with thrust or thrown damage weapon set bonuses?

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>Doing yokai realm on Death Lillies Way of the Wise
>Not really looking at Ogress' health, just focusing on debuffing and dodging.
>Must be like a solid minute passed of us wailing on her
>Not even below 75% HP

Holy fuck

Nioh was weird.
It had this weird difficulty curve where it seemed impossible at times and then suddenly, it was the easiest game ever.
The boss in the burning pagoda is the turning point.

>>387078395
did you attempt to debuff her by any chance

>>387070374

Her last entry in her character bio seems pretty leniant towards Bill-and-Okatsu-are-never-getting-together-sometimes-it-just-doesn't-work-out

>>387078802

Partner threw on weaken as she was charging at us and I used lifeseal. I'm guessing it must buff her health.

>>387079319
>Partner threw on weaken
holy shit

>>387079319

Some WotW bosses have a buff that reverses penalties. Weakening talisman gave her a boost to defense, not the other way around. This wouldn't be a problem if the game fucking told you what each symbol meant.

>>387078750
It's mainly due to it's development. It was heavily changed from it's Alpha and Beta versions based on survey input to make everything much easier and simpler, and the already powerful things in the game (Ninjutsu, Onmyo, Living Weapon) weren't changed or were barely adjusted in meaningless ways to compensate. Upon that, the only thing they tried to do to replicate difficulty in some form was slightly increase the damage of enemy attacks in some random places, which doesn't really do anything. This all comes together to make the final game very confused but easily broken balance-wise.

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>>387058090
>TFW I only use 1 handed katana so I don't ruin my immersion
>Want to feel like a weeb samurai using my ITTORYU IAI

Using anything other than 1kat just ruins the feeling of being a samurai to me, also I feel like kusarigama is the meme weapon of the game anyway.

>>387079639
use odachi nigga

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OK seriously, how in the fuck do I avoid Onryoki when hes throwing his fucking ball at me? I try side-stepping it, but this games le epic sewper hard auto-tracking guarantees that it hits me everytime. Im about to snap this fucking disc in half

>>387060646
Not him but I did enjoy it, but you need a major in feudal history to understand it. They keep dropping long ass chink names into every cutscene like they are established characters.

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>>387079639

What's wrong with spears or axes? They were used.

>>387079498

>horribly confused

I keep saying that the loot system feels like an afterthought. Like, you get these super-famous weapons as quest rewards and then find one in the next level off a trash mob. The fact that there are weapon rewards in the first place when you get dozens at least per level run makes me think that You were supposed to only get equipment from quest rewards. Really hope Nioh 2 does away with it and instead simply has preset loot.

>>387079773

Hug his ass. Also, you can run when locked on.

>>387079639

Samurai used spears more than swords.

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>>387079773
>TFW I couldn't even get through the first hour of Dark Souls
>Never bothered with Dark Souls again
>Instantly enjoy Nioh
>Beat the first boss on my 5th try

If anything I was happy considering how garbage I am at games like Dark Souls and Nioh, for a first timer I thought I did pretty good.

>>387079913
I'm not saying it's not historical accurate, what I'm saying is I'm weeaboo trash that watches too much anime and just likes using 1kat because anime makes them look cool compared to spears and axes.

>>387079773
Come on ninja just time your dodge better to dodge through it, or roll since it goes further. You get such a clear visual windup of when he's going to throw it. You could probably just sprint to avoid it now though since they killed the tracking on it. Before it used to be laser guided since the move's so easy to avoid anyway.
>>387079962
On the contrary, the loot system is a very important part of it that's connected with just about every other facet of the game. Getting weapons from the level doesn't really discount the weapons you get as level rewards as those are generally of higher quality.

>>387079493
You sure it straight up reverses penalties, I've used buffs in WotW and its always helpful even when they get that second buff, I'm on the DLC and been using them on every boss.
I am a pure omnyo mage first and axe user second so maybe it affects it.

First time getting a yata mirror felt so good, 60 luck and some other shit, still don't get how that new lock on buff works where you gain the enemies buffs if u lock on, it never seems to work.

>>387080272

Nioh is a game with better combat than souls, but not as much staying power. The enemy variety isn't as great, but the depth of which you can approach each encounter blows Souls out of the water. The thing is, you're likely to find an approach that works and settle with that, which means by the middle of the game you've settled into a playstyle which will last you until the end. The levels are mediocre but at least each one tries to do something unique, which keeps them interesting at least. For a single playthrough, Nioh is top notch. The game falls apart when it expects you to play through it 3 fucking more times to get to the highest difficulty and best gear. Nioh is a game where having NG+ hurts it more than it helps.

>>387080680

Yata mirror is best for the reflect projectiles. It's so great killing cannon guys with their own shots.

>>387079773
Dodge at the very last moment, when you're sure you're going to get hit and its already left his hand.

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I bought a PS4 to play BB and P5 but this looks pretty good too
Is it worth the money? How similar to souls is it? Is there lots of builds and different ways to play the game?
The only thing that looks like a turn off is that it looks kind of hack n slashy compared to souls but I could be wrong

>>387080056
>>387080337

>dodge behind him the exact moment he throws it
>it STILL manages to hit me

yeah, Im done with this game. I can already tell what kind of game this is

>>387081212
I can do it, why can't you?

>>387080870

Nioh has a ton of different builds. It's a game of the philosophy of "If everything is broken, nothing is."

I'd recommend holding off and waiting until the last DLC comes out and just getting the complete package because the DLC introduce weapons types, ninja skills, spells, and armor sets that can be found from the very beginning, so if you hold off you'll have maximum variety.

>>387081212
just hold down X and sprint left and right and they'll sail past you
don't be a casual, learn the extent of your mobility

>>387081212

Don't dodge, sheathe than weapon and hold X to run.

>>387081212
mate Onryoki is like the one boss you can get stuck in an AI loop. just stay on his right ass cheek and he will do the 180 swipe every single fucking time as long as you keep dashing right

Will the game redeem Maria?
She's by far the best girl.

>>387081295
>It's a game of the philosophy of "If everything is broken, nothing is."
i wish more games did that, btw games is absolutely amazing in 60fps holy shit i'm glad they went for it.

>>387080870

Game is more Ninja Gaiden than Souls. The only Souls-like things in it is the flow of combat, leaving souls upon death at the spot you died, and boosting stats with souls collected. Game is still one of the PS4's best, for all it's flaws though. Just be sure you REALLY like Japanese history, because the story follows the end of the Warring States period pretty closely as historical fiction. It's like if you fought demons during the American Revolution alongside an electrically charged Ben Franklin.

>>387081564
What do you mean redeem, she's going to be the true final boss. She's a villain to the core.

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How the FUCK do I beat the second DLC boss.
I am immediately getting insta-raped over and over again. I can't even perceiveand react to the shit he is doing and he can seem to chain into any number of attacks one after an other.

>>387080716
Sticking with one approach when you have so many options and ways to deal with enemies is doing yourself and the game a disservice, you say yourself that the depth is great so depriving yourself of that is really your own issue. The levels aren't mediocre at all either, each one is extremely well designed. It's not like you're forced to play through those extra modes either, it's just there if you want even more of the game though nerfing the base game was pointless.
>>387080870
>Is it worth the money?
I would say so, there's a whole lot to play and a whole lot of ways to play with it.
>How similar to souls is it?
Far less than most people assume, it has some similarities in structure but the combat is different and has far more depth and options to it.
>Is there lots of builds and different ways to play the game?
Yep, with skills and the different stats your equipment can get there's an insane amount of different combinations and things you can focus on.
I don't know exactly what you mean by hack n slashy but Ki management is a bit more important, though combat is the focus of the game.
>>387081212
It's really not that hard to avoid, I don't understand where you're screwing up. Dodges are invincible so dodge through it or just outrun it, if you sprint directly sideways then you should be able to avoid it.
>I can already tell what kind of game this is
One where you have to be on time?

>>387081778
The centipede dude? I think he's the hardest boss in the game, I had to cheese him out with kunais and shurikens, I cannot fight him up close.

>>387081327
>>387081371
>>387081510

Now I cant even get past his fucking first phase when he swings his shit. Jesus christ this shit is like Undead Giant on roids. I dont think Im cut out for this game

>>387081778
>second DLC boss.
which one is that?
second boss in first dlc is that comic relief guy with an axe from what i remember

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>STILL only 8 quick item slots
for fuck's sake

>>387081801

Yes, you do have many options. My point was that beyond the endgame you don't NEED to use other options other than the one that you feel is most fun personally because power in this game grows exponentially. I'd say the hardest areas are stages 3 and 4, because that's when the game finally introduces its toughest enemies while you're still playing catch-up. After that, you just keep getting stronger and stronger while the enemies and bosses lag behind you.

>>387081917
>>387081935
Sorry I meant the second boss in the second DLC. The guy with the Fire horse. I must have died about 30 times now and haven't even taken a third of his health.

>>387081778
You talkin about Masamune m8? With the octopus grandpa and wind dragon spirits? He's a shit. He's got way too much Ki for him to be in Living Weapon 90% of the time and I'm glad they made the bosses in the second DLC have much more reasonable Ki.

If you can get a parry off on the dude when he's not in LW, you can get big damage. It will take practice, but it's a start. Otherwise, you're going to want to go into low stance, bring as many Sloth Talismans if you can, and keep him slow 100% of the time. I'm not sure if Groundfire traps or if Daiba-Washi's special can floor him while he's in Living Weapon, but you might try those. Also try Paralytic Groundfire to destroy his boipucci.

>>387081929
just keep trying, anon. i believe in you.

help me nioh fags,

120 level, heavy armor set taneshi or soem shit, using sword, all 150 level divine. sword 150+2. can't deal damage to dlc enemies, they took 300 dmg and that doesn't do shit. tried kingo and west set too, different sword too. i beat the game with no challange, it was easy af. dlc is too hard. i got 2 hitted by normal enemies. what am i doing wrong? why the fuck dlc is such a diffuculty spike. i beat main game without summons easily. i beat 1st dlc with summons for bosses. i can't do shit in 2nd dlc. fuck the diffulcty of this shit, and don't say git gud fags, i played all souls games, some souls like games. i don't get hit, the problem is my damage is shit. i played way of the strong mission with tachibana ginchiyo, girl does 1k dmg per hit wtf, 3 times harder than me.

>>387082065
Use your skills that break his ki.

>>387082191
git gudder weapons

>>387082191
DLC is scaled to be way harder, you're going to want to try to get your divines all closer to 200 +10 and your weapon to 200+15, it's a bit overkill but it'll drag the DLC enemies back down to a more reasonable level for you.

>>387082191
You gotta level up your gear, I think max level now is 250, you'll get higher level gear by just killing enemies but upgrading it costs a lot of money so you either find new gear or try to slowly level it up at the forge.

>>387082065
He only becomes bullshit when he jumps on a moth girl and straight starts flying around.
Before that he's just a spear user, they always have shit tracking unless in low stance. Also learn to avoid his gunshots.

>>387082370
>>387082373
>>387082394

well, i farmed some revenants and didn't see any gear better than level 150. what is the easiest way to get high level gear? like revenant farming? upgrading? i want the least time consuming method

>>387082191
>don't say git gud I've played all souls games
what correlation do souls games have to being good at an action game?

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>put a paralysis grountrap
>summon revenant
>he's insta-paralyzed
>mercilless barrage into final blow
i love the amount of broken bullshit this game has

>>387082564
Have you beaten Way of the Strong yet? You should start Way of the Demon if you have and you'll get much better gear. If not try to finish Way of the Strong, the DLC is made with you having beat it first in mind by the way the enemies are scaled.

>>387082692

that doesn't man "ya man i'm good shit yo fuckin casuals". that means i am a decent player, i managed to beat all that shit easily solo. so this MUST be a problem of nioh dlc scaling

>>387055976
I have beaten every single mission on way of the wise except the one eyed dragons castle and the scion of virtue. I am afraid.

>>387082394
Max level should be 260, I've gotten a weapon at 251 in WotW without anything unlocked. With all the DLC unlocked my best is 254 body. Both were Divine.

>>387082163

Nope, not going to happen. I finally figure him out. He grabs me and then OHKOs me. If the first real boss is this fucking hard, I can only imagine how cancerous the rest of the bosses are. Back to Bloodborne I go

What's better, carnage talisman or power balls for a LW ninja build?

>>387081929

Blocking is a lot more viable. You can block immediately after being hit once, while dodging has some time after a hit where you can't.

Could always summon

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>>387082725
>tfw 2kat can trivialize any human enemy including bosses with SotC

>>387082928
I think they always do that for each DLC, before it was 200 but you could sometimes find 200+ but it was rare now it seems like the same.

If you want to mind fuck your controller hands, play NIOH, then Bloodborne, then go back to any of the dark souls games

>>387083004
Leeching Talisman to put you into Critical state. I don't know if Carnage and Leeching stack but if they did that would be even better. LW gets stronger when your health is low so people tend to put Leeching Talismans on a LW build now.

>>387082738

i don't want to play the game for a second time just because a dlc. i played about 6 short missions, it's boring.

>>387082838
God damn this brings back some memories. Wish I had and was on the DLC so I'd know whether this low damage thing is legit, since for the most part everything I've encountered has had a severe issue with lack of health.
>>387082989
>can dodge things in Bloodborne but can't dodge Onryoki's slowest attacks.
He's really not that big a deal. Spend some time getting used to dodging through weaker enemies or something, the iframes are fewer and not immediate but they're definitely there.

>>387083092
i'd say kusari's black vines into foot sweep trivialises humanoids even harder

>>387083004

Carnage, definitely. Defense doesn't matter in LW.

>>387083189
>>387083291
I don't know how I overlooked this, but I meant lightweight, not living weapon. Good to know since I'm using Justice Ministry, anyway.

>>387083421
Oops

>>387083274

How in the fuck am I supposed to dodge his swinging chain? HOW IN THE FUCK AM I SUPPOSED TO DODGE HIS SWINGING CHAIN? I try dodging left, dodging back and dodging right. It hits me no matter fucking what. It just isnt even fun anymore at this point. I dont know what to do anymore. I was really enjoying the game up to this point, but this has killed all enjoyment. And how quickly he does his chain swing is CHRIST FUCKING RIDICULOUS. No time to react

>>387083421

If you're light armor, then everything will 2shot you anyway, so a defense debuff doesn't hurt as much

>TFW youre wearing all heavy gear and finally have 99 strength and 58 stamina so you have B agility
Glorious.

>>387082838
I did both dlcs in my 160+10 gear at level ~170 or so (have only been playing when new dlc is out and getting the trophies in them so I haven't leveled much from my initial playthrough of NG and NG+). yeah I'd get 2 shot by most things, but just block more lad. also killed thing plenty quickly still with kingo meme setup

so, where do i farm 150+ level divine gear easily? i did 6 way of strong missions, first dlc, farmed some revenants on bridge mission wots. i haven't seen any 150+ item

>>387083475

You're supposed to block the chain. You block a lot more in this game compared to Souls.

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>TFW it took me 8328932892389 tries to beat this fight.

Holy shit, I'll never forget the feeling I had when I managed to win that fight. And I did it by myself as well, didn't summon or anything.

>>387083472
>>387083498
Okay. Well I think I'll start speccing for a living stuff while I'm at it, then.

>>387083568

Don't farm until WotW. Anything you make will be outclassed.

>>387083542

dude i deal just a little more than 300 with kingo and got 2 shotted by normal enemies. i can block and dodge but i don't want to hit an enemy 25 times. and i am sure i can't kill bosses. i need damage, fuck defenses i can do a no hit run. how the fuck do i find 150+ swords

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>>387083529
>when your Todo bonus makes stamina give more life than body

>>387083623

The honoraburu duerrs are the best parts of the game desu.

>>387083568
Just play the missions normally the enemies will drop them for you, stack luck if you want, you'll also get a lot of Amrita for doing so, you essentially kinda gotta replay it again but I never found it to be a chore since the rewards are better and new.

>>387083714
THIS. I have almost 7K HP at this point, with full heavy armour I have only been one shot by like, one enemy and I'm in DLC 2 in WOTW

>>387083475
If you mean his 360 move, you either block the chain or preferably just sprint out. Learn to read when he's going to do it, it has a bit of a windup before it starts and pay attention to where you are when he starts it up.

Which one of the mystic arts in the onmyo tree is better? For reference I'm only using buffs/debuffs.

>>387083697

The difference between 150 and 150+10 is like 20% of damage. Use umbracite and divine shards to roll change to attack boosts and flat combat modifiers on your weapons.

>>387083798

i still got 150 weapons dude. do i need to be level 200 or some shit to get high level drops?

>>387083879

The one with instant casting.

>>387083764
That "honoraburu" duel was horse shit let me tell you, I died so many times that I lost count. Was sweating and pissed off is all I remember, also remembering cussing and yelling things like "WHAT THE FUCK!?!?! THAT'S FUCKING BULLSHIT!!?!? WHY CAN THEY DO THAT SHIT?!?! HOW THE FUCK IS THAT EVEN FAIR?!?! HOW IS THE PLAYER SUPPOSE TO FUCKING EVEN STAND A CHANCE?!?!"

You know, just the usual stuff.

>>387083932
Which region are you doing? Try the 3rd region if you got it unlocked iirc they unlock the first 3 regions for you in the new difficulties, I personally farmed Ii (Red Demon) each difficulty except WotW. Also you might need the DLC? Not too sure on that part.

wew lads, I did it

>>387083978

It's actually easier if you kill Nobunaga first. Counter-intuitive, but he doesn't have a lot of HP and his moves are specifically designed to make life harder for you when fighting someone else.

>>387083978
I just debuff Yuki Onna with sloth and weakness, pop a carnage, shoot Oda in the head, while he is recovering from that kill Yuki with iai, and mop up from there. You could also Daiba Washi cheese Oda for final blow damage.

>>387083714
>>387083805
The clan bonus caps out at like +15, right?

>>387083970
Does the casting speed increase for nonbuff spells stack with the casting speed up effect from armour?

>>387084340
something like that, one thing to note is that stamina gives you a little HP normally so you'll end up getting like +18 life each level

>>387084514
Yep, good luck getting one of those with the Onmyo ethereal set come endgame though.

>>387084514

Yes. It is retardedly good for a game as fast paced as Nioh. It puts you on an entirely new tier.

>>387084617
What's the Onmyo ethereal set?

>>387084135

basically, i die in 2 hits, which isn't a problem. but i deal really shit damage, like when your weapons are broken in dark souls. this diffuculty shit started with the dlc. everyoen says get 150+ weapons, but i can't seem to find them. tried doing some wots missions, farming revenants.

>>387083970
Woops. Oh well I'll just wait till I get more hair or just respec.

>>387084881
Tsukuyomi, its 7 piece set bonus gives onmyo restoration after LW unlike Iga which gets it as its 2 piece set bonus

Is it worth it forging and Soul Matching shit?

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>>387084335
>Sloth

Stopped reading there

>>387085139

Forging yes.

Soul matching yes as well, but only to carry over an inheritable skill to new gear or to boost +'d weapons up.

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Changes you'd like to see made for the inevitable sequel/prequel?

>>387084913
I think WotS is only at 150 level, Way of the Demon has 150+ because they didn't have the DLC back then (not sure if they changed now) but what you're telling me if you can't find any then that means 150 is the cap for WotS. So now what you need to do is level up the + part, I dunno if you know about it basically you take two pieces of divine gear say 150 and another 150 soul match them and it'll be 150+1, now you get another 150+1 + 150+1 = 150+2, WotS you should be fine at 150+10, I think right now it goes up to +30.

>>387085139
Don't bother with soul matching until postgame when you get divine stuff. Forging is okay I guess if you want to keep a set you like around your level.

>>387085423
Let me choose what skills I reforge into. Having it random almost ruins the entire mechanic since all it does is separate the guys who are okay with sitting in the blacksmith for 4 hours from the ones that don't.

>>387084881
Grace of Tsukuyomi
2 piece Damage Reduction 3.0%
3 piece Onmyo Magic Power +62
4 piece Close Combat Damage +13.2%
5 piece Ki Recovery (Timely Guard)
6 piece Onmyo Magic Damage Bonus A+
7 piece Recover Onmyo Items (Finished Using Living Weapon) 30%

grace sets appear on any ethereal piece that doesn't have a set bonus normally

you could in theory get the set bonus on the fox mask which also has a Onmyo Damage Bonus C, or the onmyo set that has +19 onmyo power on a few of its piece, but good fucking luck with that

>>387085139
Both are worth it, Soul Matching a bit less so because the cost can go really high if you're leveling up equipment, but you'll still want to pass on effects eventually.

>>387055976
Just got the Season pass...Odashis or Tonfas,what are the most fun?

>>387085464

i have a 150+2 weapon, i don't think 150+10 would be that stronger. and isn't soulforging cost too much? fuck the developers, i just want to beat the second dlc. i don't want to play the game for one more(maybe 2 more) times jsut because the dlc is fucking diffucult. if you want to make dlc harder, make more difficulties

>>387085795
I'm not a fan of either, but at least odachi isn't trash. Go for that one.

>>387085134
That is racist against mages

>>387085795

Tonfas are fun. Don't listen to what everyone else says, they're only underpowered on NG+++ because everything has a million ki and the name of the game for tonfas is ki breaking.

>>387085843
it doesn't cost that much, you've just only started NG+

to get the level up, only match with pieces that have soul matching cost reduction
to + the gear, use tome prestige points to pay so that it doesn't eat too hard into your gold, it only costs about 2-3 points per level if you're using matching gear e.g. 1kat to 1kat

and 150+2 is pathetic, keep +'ing it

>>387085843

You should be able to beat the second DLC on Way of the Samurai with that level of equipment. Maybe try leveling your guardian spirits?

>>387085423
I would want them to make it like the Alpha but what's far more likely is that they'll continue on this road to ruin they've paved themselves.
I guess I'd change effect inheriting so that instead of only being able to replace one specific effect, you can replace any of the same type, along with being able to remove non-locked effects. This is what I originally thought they were going to change it to and it'd be a nice way of expanding the forging aspect so you can finetune your entire weapons by using the loot you acquire.

>>387086047
They are fun. They're also the worst weapon type in the game.

I really wanted to like them. I did. I even got an ethereal yin yang tonfa with CtA Magic AA and the tsukuyomi grace.

They have terrible tracking and their entire moveset is surprisingly slow outside of pulverize and low stance.

>>387086047
Dual swords are also great for breaking ki with the upside of not being totally awful at other things.

>>387086158

peopel are saying level 250 weapons, i don't think 150+10 does shit.

>>387086201

saoirse level 21. i am able to beat first dlc, bosses are hard but managable(i still summoned, i ain't hitting boss a thousand times for a kill ) and second dlc is impossible man. i hit fucking 300 is this a joke? everytiem a look a youtube video they are killing people with ease. i kill that easiyl on normal playthrough, not dlc. there is something wrong with fucking dlcs. it says level 180, i am level 120 but people say level doesn't mean shit.

>>387086047
I have, for shits and giggles, a set of tonfas that are built entirely around breaking ki, it is so much fucking fun with earth element

>>387086541
150+2 is like welcome to WotStr isle of demons

I disassemble anything under 250+20 on WotW

>>387086541
Did you stop leveling? Don't do that there's literally no point, spend your amrita this ain't souls. WotS should be giving you decent amrita, and +10 should help but I dunno really since I played the game from release and essentially reached max level gear for each DLC so my playthrough is different compared to a fresh player.

Im that faggot who was having trouble with Onryuki. I have some questions that I think will help me with my understanding of the game. However, the only games like this that Ive played are Dark Souls 3 and Bloodborne, so I will have to relate my inqueries to those games. Im a bit drunk, so please let me know if I need to clarify anything

- Can I only go to the Firelink Shrine in between missions?

- How do i level up a specific weapon that I have? (+4, +7, +9)

- Does armor actually serve a purpose in this game, or is it just fashionable?

- Re: KI, should I be looking at my meter during fights, or do you eventually learn to time it instinctively?

- What are the best items to use as Quick Items?

>>387086541
>i don't think 150+10 does shit
150+10 isn't like 160

It doesn't work that way. 150+10 is probably something like 200+0. Level your fucking weapons.

>>387055976
I didn't play the DLC because people said the pvp was absolutely shitty and broken. I was disappointed. Is it 2 hit kills still with umyo magic buffs? Or is it more balanced now.

>>387086939

dude, i don't care about way of strong, demon, wise, nioh developer i just don't. i just want to beat the dlc without beating the game again. and if i understand correctly, i need to beat way of the strong to unlock another way, so that i can drop items 150+. i don't want to. i just want to beat a fucking dlc man. why the fuck covenants doesn't drop 250 level gear then? where should i farm revenants? way of strong bridge revenants don't give me anything 150+

>>387087165
you don't need to clear all of way of the strong

just clear a little of it for better gear if you're stuck on way of the samurai dlc, then level your shit

>>387087082

ok then. so i will do twilight missions for money, then farm revenants for divine items with soul match cost reduction. then i will make my weapon +10. got it. i will do this when i am not lazy, i hope it will suffice to beat the second dlc.. and there will be a third dlc. fuck man, just make this dlc's like dark souls dlc and hidden areas, normal diffuculty, scales with ng+. why the fuck they are way harder

>>387087074
Shrines for leveling up can be found in levels, the blacksmith can only be accessed on the main map. You can learn skills at any time or place.
Soul Matching lets you increase a weapon's level to the same as another higher leveled weapon by consuming the higher level weapon as a material. Other than that (and I think some other end game thing) you can't level up a weapon. You can increase it's familiarity by using it or having it equipped though, which makes it a bit stronger but has a limit.
Armour is very useful and necessary in this game, the defence you get is a big deal and heavier armour does come with much stronger defences. It also looks nice as hell, and you can refashion anything at the blacksmith to look how you want.
You can look at the meter if you need to, but there's also a ring of blue light that gathers around William-sama that can be used for timing it. You eventually learn the timing instinctively as well though.
That's a bit of a weird question, anything you like to use or think would help with your playstyle would be best since everything is useful in one way or another. Personally I like to put elixirs on both sets so that no matter what I know that I can press up to heal.

>>387087074
>Can I only go to the Firelink Shrine in between missions?
Do you mean starting point with the blacksmith? yes, only between missions.

>How do i level up a specific weapon that I have? (+4, +7, +9)
You soul match it at the blacksmith, but don't bother doing that until like NG++, just drop whatever you have every time you find something slightly better/

>Does armor actually serve a purpose in this game, or is it just fashionable?
Armor is extremely important, all gear is diablo style so set bonuses are probably the most important thing in the game next to weapon level.

>KI, should I be looking at my meter during fights, or do you eventually learn to time it instinctively?
When I first started playing, I looked at the meter to get a perfect pulse off, but eventually it just becomes second nature. If you pay attention to your character, you get a nice particle effect around you to indicate when you need to pulse.

>What are the best items to use as Quick Items?
Quick change scrolls, extraction talismans, shadowround talismans, protection talismans, rejuvination talismans.

>>387087449
You farm revenants for primarily for divine fragments. Revenants don't drop + gear, so you just scrap their shit and use the fragments to reforge your gear so it has better stats. But if revenants are dropping gear a higher level then yours, then yeah, you could farm them for soul match cost down.

You just play the game naturally to get + gear, then soul match your gear up.

>why the fuck they are way harder
I didn't really think they were that much harder.

Getting the game soon,what are good builds and weapons to consider.

>>387089483
Literally anything works and all weapons are fun. Don't force yourself into thinking you have to do some specific build before you even have the game.

>>387089483
You can respec anytime, so just have a play around and see which weapon type you have the most fun with and suits your playstyle best.

>>387089483
until NG++, you can get away with anything you want

>>387089483

Dabble in a bit of everything.

Get Flux as soon as you can. It lets you ki pulse on dodge and is shared between weapon trees. Don't make the same mistake I did and assume that you'd have to rebuy it for all trees.

Passives in specific weapons apply for all damage, so you'll be wanting to get a few skills on the way to those for each weapon regardless.

>>387090014
>>387089807
>>387089607
>>387089568
Ah nice, was worried there would be restrictions or oyu could not respec.

>>387090290
There's tons of respeccing options and the game's loot system is only as autistic as you make it.

so how viable is fist only?
i know you get some ninjutsu skills and weapon skills that increase bare handed damage.
and i know that there is a bare handed set.
but is it even fun to use? does the damage eventually get good? not being able to ki pulse seems like a big BIG disadvantage

>>387090713

Fist is actually the highest DPS weapon on NG, but only with the limited fist talismans.

>>387090713
Fist only does a lot of damage with the proper setup, but it's boring as sin and doesn't make good use of the game's mechanics (no stance change or ki pulse).

I don't recommend it, especially not for someone just starting.

There is a barehanded skill called composure which lets you parry someone barehanded and stab them with their own weapon which you could stack barehanded damage with to make ridiculous, but it's only useful against select humanoid attacks and has the stingiest timing of any parry in the game.

I would only recommend barehanded as far as using this gimmick on the side of a regular build.

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>>387091362
i would have made a 2nd character.
my first character is katana/Ninjutsu after getting bored of odachi.
yea i figured it would get boring doing punch punch kick for 40 hours.
would be sweet if they included stances, ki pulse and a skill tree, but i guess Tonfa is the closest we gonna get.

>>387091362

It is bar none the easiest way to get the humanoid crusher titles though. You can literally kill people in a single parry.

i am at the giant skeleton bossfight.
how far am i through new game?
i dont like the bossfight very much

>>387092330
you have 4 more main missions left

>>387092330
Those yellow pools stop your Living Weapon from ending and refill your LW while you stand in them. Use it for the boss and the whole level.

>>387092330
Skele is easy. Beat the shit out of his legs or arms until they go to 0 hp and then climb the highest point and LW the shit out of his head. Once I figured out what I was doing it took no time at all and I felt stupid for not figuring it out earlier.

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>tfw don't want to get a ps4 because I'd only play Nioh on it
>no plans for Nioh on PC

>>387092330
But that boss is cool as fuck.
>>387092751
Wait, people didn't figure out you were supposed to break parts then whack his head? Seriously?

>>387085423

Just take out the diablo loot, and emphasize the unique traits of weapons more. Exploding tonfas are way cooler than some boring shit like extra iai damage.

>>387093110

PS4 has a bunch of other good exclusives though.

>>387093110
A PS4's worth getting now if you're even somewhat into Japanese games.

>>387093110
>come for Nioh and Bloodborne
>stay for Gravity Rush 2, purse owner and Yakuza games

>>387094201
This is literally me. I got one 2 months ago and I think I did gud.

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>>387090713
I'm about to fight Gasha-Dokuro in my no weapon run and I think it's fun but I'm also using bombs to speed up mob enemies. The only thing you actually need is the fist talisman which turns your punches into the hardest hitting non-heavy attack in the game but unfortunately throwing a punch is apparently more exhausting than swinging an axe so all human boss encounters are just going to be parrying only. Lastly if you actually want to do it fresh you're going to have to go through Hinmoenma and Raiju doing only 50 every time but after that most monster bosses will go down pretty quick.

>>387094535
I still can't believe how many 10/10's there are in this game.

>>387095635
>Team Ninja
>I cant believe how many 10/10s are in this game.
how are you surprised...

>2 DLC add less than 10 missions
What the actual fuck. I don't know if I want to buy it anymore

>>387095883
the dlc is like $5 each. it's not a bad content/price ratio

>>387093110
>nioh, BB, Yakuza, gravity rush, super robot wars v, gundam breaker 3, gundam versus, digimon games, musous, hatsune miku rhythm games, ratchet and clank, infamous, driveclub, horizon, dragon quest games, plethora of console only weeb games
It's got a lot of good exclusive games on it.
>>387096184
They're $8.33 each if you get the season pass

>>387089483
This game ultimately leads you to a jack of all trades so anything is fine, I think that's a nice way to do the game since it lets you experience everything the developers put into it instead of just using one build and not even touching anything else.

>>387092668
That's what it does? Fucking hell I never noticed, I saw an icon but didn't realize what it did, they really need to put a legend or something in the game there's so many icons.

>>387096527

Yeah, jack of all trades is the way to go because all the bonuses are multiplicative, rather than additive. Like, instead of five 10% bonuses giving you 1.5x attack, it's actually 1.1*1.1*1.1*1.1*1.1 = 1.61

Well just bought the season pass. Hope I didn't get memed watching the webms made me want to play again.

>>387097860

DLC 1 has the two best fights in the entire game. DLC2 isn't as good but Sarutobi is pretty nice and the Ten Braves are a neat gauntlet. Immerse yourself and do the DLC using odachi and tonfas.

>>387096767
Yeah I'm like 250 hours in and I have no idea what half of the buff/debuff icons by all the health bars mean aside from the elemental ones and like Discord and paralysis.

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hfw musashi duel at the end of DLC 3

hfw spamming SoTC 4 times

so whats the DLC 3 weapon gonna be?

>>387098649
who the fuck knows

>>387098649
I hope it's something range based or something like a meteor hammer or something versatile like a 3 sectional staff

I've just finished the 3rd region and find this game considerably easier than dark souls, is that the general consensus or maybe i'm just over leveled from doing every sub mission possible?

>>387099021
Dark souls relies on cheap tricks and slow movement to make it difficult. This relies considerably less on those so it's pretty easy. Until you get to NG+ and beyond, then it's harder than the souls games.

>>387099021
It turns into hell on higher difficulties.

>>387096437
season pass is $15 with the digital deluxe. I got the deluxe on release day for $55

anyone got the dawn is breaking greentext

>>387098962
>tfw its just gonna be nunchuks or Sais
>>387099021
youre not overleveled.
the game gets harder later on.
except for the first 2 missions, the rest of new game is easy up until the last few.
after that i gets kinda hard.
theres also the possibility you are using one of the easier weapons.
it gets really hard once they stack subbosses and bosses together.

>>387099208
oops $65*
probably cheaper now though I'd think

>>387099021
This would be harder but it has far more overpowered abilities and the game was nerfed so it ends up somewhat similar.

>>387099108
Does anything change on NG+ enemies besides higher HP and damage?

>>387099293
>>387099173
>>387099108
ok thanks, also wondering if it has anything to do with being in low stance 100% of the time, don't know if i'm being dumb but dodging and quick attacking seems to be my best method

>>387099358
Yep. On Way of the Demon they add these red versions of enemies that have a bunch of special properties that will bully you. On Way of the Wise they add DLC enemies into the base game, so you need to worry about ninja dogs alerting all the surrounding enemies in the area and dragging them to you and stuff like that.

What's the strongest weapon+build right now friends

>>387099462
do whatever works for you.
low stance is my least used stance (odachi/katana)

>>387099572
The one where you put in the time to make it.

>>387099572
the William build

I really wish Nioh didn't have a Diablo style loot system. I absolutely love the combat, but I hate having to manage my equipment and inventory.

>>387099462
I feel that stance preference is based on the player, some weapons I don't like some stances other weapons I use different stances, but as you get different moves in the skill list for whatever weapon you're using some are stance based only so you can only do it in that stance so depending on if you like that skill or not you might feel the need to switch stances.

>>387099730
Only reason to keep replaying it though desu. Bloodborne is nice for a play through or 2 but it doesn't have the autism that randomly generated loot can provide.

>>387099730
>equip items
>hit check all button
>sell / offer / disassemble
i didnt have much trouble with it to be perfectly honest.
>>387099572
you wanna keep the London Tower Gear for maximum fashion

>>387099730
I just want more sorting options really, like to save and load sets, maybe add a personal category where you can store specific items for whatever purpose you need it for.

>>387100028
you can Already do all that what the fuck

>>387099841

You have to still look over your gear on the off chance you get a sweet sweet inheritable close combat boost or A scaling.

>>387099462
Low stance is extremely safe and can put out a surprising amount of damage with quick attacks but you can do more overall with other stances. Ideally you want to learn to switch between all the stances to use their advantages to their fullest, but low stance did get quite a bit stronger since it lost the few things intended to hold it back.
>>387099730
You don't have to if you just equip the strongest things and ditch everything else, and even if you check everything it only takes a matter of seconds. Why do people bitch about the loot when it's so easy to work around?
>>387100028
You can save and load sets now.

>>387100254
>>387100325
WHAT, when the fuck did that happen, I've been playing PoE Is it like saving the whole set in slots so you have like 10 slots and can load each one? Like Monster Hunter?

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>>387100285
tampering

>>387100469

The game has been adding a surprising amount of features for free. PvP, new spells and ninja items, being able to have a secondary guardian spirit you can switch to, saving sets, and a few other thing I'm forgetting. It's shocking that a singleplayer-centric game like this is getting all of these updates, especially since the player base is pretty small.

>>387100627
I still don't get how umbracite works, each time you use it the table changes I thought it was a permanent table but it's weird.

>>387100828
yes so you could reroll for different tables and possibilities

>>387094535
Who's that hot sorceress chick?

>>387100828

It's basically a better alternative to simply rerolling 50 times to get a good skill.

>>387100627
when should i bother modifying my equipment and looking at stats and forging and all that shit.

>>387100662
Team ninja are pretty cool and it sold over a million which was a huge success for them.

>>387100915
way of the strong with divine tier gear

>>387100627
That's a beautiful weapon

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>>387099293

>a third dexterity scaling weapon
pls no

>>387100662
And yet they still don't add the one feature the game actually needs because going back to how it should be is bad or something.
>>387100915
When you feel you need or want a specific setup that you'll be hanging onto for quite some time. So near the end of the game if you're going to play through WotS but really whenever you want to.

>>387100662
Was that armor set update in the 1.16 version? That's the one with the battle of skill thing, I don't see it in the 1.16 patch notes.

>>387100915

Whenever you want. The materials for reforging are piss easy to come across. The only issue is price.

>>387101209

1.14, 1.15, and 1.16 came out in rapid succession. It was one of those.

>>387101123
And what feature is that?

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>tfw can't get a bloodstained cleaver with the amaterasu set on it

At least this weapon will make up for it.

>>387102487
I've never seen an AA- before, what does that mean?