Is Hearthstone the only case when Blizzard created something

>>387034342
Diablo

You mean took the card game concept and simplified it so even complete mongloids understood it? Sure, very unique of em

>>387034342
Overwatch
WoW
Diablo
Warcraft 3

their only game that hasn't sparked a plethora of bad copie is Starcraft

>>387034609
>Warcraft 3
>Overwatch

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>>387034342
>implying there weren't any CCGs before
HS is nothing new. Still i agree that every retarded studio tries to copy it now.
Look at Gwent. It's probably the most boring and uninspired game i ever saw. Purely made for making money because card games are big now and give huge profit (lootboxes/gambling aka "card packs") and yet people praise it because it's CDPR.

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>>387034342
>Blizzard created card games

>>387034675
>what are MOBAs
>what is Paladins, Battleborn, Gigantic, Lawbreakers, Fortnite, Agents Mayhem

>>387034837
>Moving the goalposts

War3 wasn't original. Warcraft wasn't original. Blizzard didn't create DotA.

>>387034774
>Blizzard created MMORPGs
>Blizzard created Diablo-clones
>Blizzard created rts macrofest games
>Blizzard created virtual card games
>Blizzard created MOBAshooter

And all of these greentexts are true, because other western devs lack creativity and actually believe Blizzard invented that shit

>>387034837
Battleborn and Overwatch are TF2 derivatives. Lawbreakers is more CoD + Moba. Agents of Mayham is a singleplayer Saints Row game. You have no clue what you're talking about. Next you'll say Halo invented FPS.

>>387034559
t. shieldbearer

>>387034342
A F2P card game that copies and simplifies MTG is something new?

>>387034883
Dota exists because of Blizzard's map making tools. The first heroes were all just ported from the WC3 campaign.

>>387034983
The similarities between these games and TF2 end and begin at them being both team based FPS.

>>387035012
Top kek.

>>387034342
>something new
>new

>>387035052
>Dota exists because of Blizzard's map making tools. The first heroes were all just ported from the WC3 campaign.

So fucking what?

>>387035009
Whatever you wanna say to make yourself feel better about your 51% winrate

Magic > Yugioh = Pokemon TCG >>>>> Shadowverse (Nice sluts) > Heartshit

Why is nu-Blizzard determined to destroy Hunters while sucking Mage dick at every turn?

>Annihilated all three Hunter specs in Legion in one swoop after a gradual decline since Cata
>Continuously makes the worst cards for them in Hearthstone, the ONE GOOD CARD they got (Call of the Wild) is nerfed ridiculously fast. Hunters have not been meta since the game first came out and everything was a face race

>>387035162
yugioh is an abomination

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Most importantly, is Lich king worth crafting? I've seen it in almost every ladder deck, but it's not that important, it doesn't have much synergy, and i think that if i have to use 1600 dust i could make something more groundbreaking for a specific build
Whaddya think?

>>387035052
I guess Warcraft and Hearthstone don't count since they exist because of C.
And what exactly did Overwatch innovate? Ultimate abilities? What a joke, that's not new.

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>>387035207
It however has the greatest card archetype to ever exist across all CCGs, Ojamas.

>Color-coded with small nods to Sentai designs
>Name is vidya-related
>Impacts the field and opponent playstyle greatly with Ojama Country and introduces an alternative win condition in their fusions

>>387034675
>>387034883


>Warcraft 3
>First RTS to implement Hero characters with actual RPG elements like experience, items and skill/stats.
>System responsible for thousands of custom game modes including the original MOBA.

You're an idiot, Warcraft 3 as a game and engine has influenced 1000s of other games and you say it's not original.

>>387034559
One thing I'll give them credit for is how the aknowledge the fact that it's a card game on a computer. A lot of people complain about how much RNG the game has and stupid gimmicks, but I actually love it.
In real life, you couldn't be able to do shit like "put a copy of your opponents deck in your deck" or "summon a random legendary minion", aswell as many passive effects and such.

While it's true that this reduces the skill ceilig and makes the game more luck based, it also makes it more fun if you don't take it too seriously, which seeig things like card descriptions, Party at Karazhan or the things minions say when spawning/attacking/dying is what I feel the game was inttented for: a simple and fun card game to just have a good time once in a while.

I wish they didn't go so deep into meme territory, tho.

>>387035228
I'd say so, Frostmourne and Army of the Dead are fucking bonkers, Death Grip can severely hinder an opponent's deck if you're lucky, and the fact that he has Taunt means he actually does impact the field when summoned.

>>387035228
I use it in my Dead Man's Hand fatigue warrior. I'm having a blast with it! It's such an impactful card that getting multiple copies of it is insane.

>>387035228

he does not fit every deck, but has a place in almost every control-type deck

I'd say go for it if you enjoy curator paladin and the likes

>>387035447
>One thing I'll give them credit for is how the aknowledge the fact that it's a card game on a computer.

Yes retard them reprinting similar cards and taking 2 expansions to fix shit is a surefire sign they are developing on PC. Fuck using your ability to modify things on the fly to keep things balanced, just make the goys pay up next time.

>>387035460

Army of the dead is only good is Ramp druid and to a much less extent, Demon Warlock.

>Oh I just milled my Death Knight, major board clear and removal for a 3/2 and a 4/3.

The card isn't consistent enough to be good, at least with Doom Pact you clear the board before milling your deck.

>>387035254
TF2 had one ultimate ability, the ubercharge. Overwatch just gave one to every class and added more classes.

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>>387035228
If you play Control, yes, always.. If you play Aggro, probably no.

>>387034342

Card games are older than video games by like a long ass time OP

>>387035012
>complaining about them introducing a nigger as the head villain

>>387035848
if you play aggro just kys because there are no good aggro decks anymroe because they nerf them all

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>>387034837
>Fortnite has anything to do with Overwatch

>>387035848
>Control
So basically it's not worth crafting since Blizz killed Control with jade cancer.

>>387035228

He's potentially amazing.
Considering he's an 8/8 with taunt for 8, you're still basically getting value even if you get a shit Death Knight card.

But getting the right card at the right time, or having him last even more than one turn is basically a guaranteed win. I would not be surprised if we see him get nerfed to 9 mana, but I doubt it if we never saw Dr Boom get nerfed,

>>387035228
I don't play Hearthstone but this card seems a bit OP yes?

>>387034342
"New" is overstating it. They took something already popular in game stores around the world, made it simple enough to play on tablets right when tablets were blowing up and cashed in big time.

It's a fucking wonderful piece of business.

>>387035662
Sadly, since it's an online videogame there's a constant battle between the designers and the bussinessmen at the top. They know they could fix cards, update them or change them, but if you can make profit out of that, do you think the goys wouldn't take the chance?

Don't blame on the devs something they have no control of. As long as it's a bussiness which's main focus is to make money, the devs will not have fully control of the game, just what they are allowed to touch.

>>387035052
>credit for games is now given to the person who developed the engine they are made on

>>387035848
>>387035578
You think he runs well in midrange solutions too? Control is not my favourite playstyle

>>387035997
Have you played a single KFT match? Control is 100% back with the new expac. They even printed a "fuck off Jade Idol" card, if you hate them that much.

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>>387036035
he's not meta anymore

>>387036035
Blood Manos is honor banned at most HS tournaments

>>387036219
I have. And Jade Druid is even more unbeatable than before.

>>387036184

>mid-range
>2017

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>>387035997

>>387035997

Jade druid will never be tier 1 while this exists.
High tier 2 at best, but as soon as the Jade Druid becomes noticeably common, people 'will' tech in this card. The match up between Jade Druid and Control Mage without Skulking Geist is 50/50 but then like 30/70 with it, so you don't have to worry about it to much.

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>>387036184
He's an okay finisher, but there are better class specific finishers for midrange. Tirion, DK Pally, Obsidian Statue (maybe). I'd still craft him, honestly. I'm a control player through and through so my opinion is a smidge influenced.
>>387036271
How bad are you to have predictable-druid as your weakness? What deck do you play that loses that hard?

>>387036401
played Jade Druid all day yesterday and din't see one of these

all I saw was bullshit fucking control decks to beat up on

>>387036401
If you honestly think that card will stop Jade Druid, you're fucking delusional.

>>387037026

It will stop tournament play

are you fucking retarded?

>>387037026
it will
If you play that card jad druid can surrender, his endgame is gone, the only hope he has left is to finish you off before you manage to clear his remaining jade golems

>>387036828

>I played in low tiers and/or casual mode and never saw a specific tech card.

Dude, go watch Rank 5-legend streamers, it's basically in every mage and paladin doesn't need it to beat Jade Druid.

>>387037459
>watch other people play a video game

I'll get right on that

>>387036401
>stats are too low to be a good 6 drop against non-jade druid decks
>doesn't destroy jade druid enough to warrant inclusion on the off chance you are facing a jade druid deck

Does anyone else think that the card art and overall design/mechanics of the latest expansion feel very MTG?

>>387034764
Gwent is absolutely nothing like Hearthstone, like not even close. Its based off Condottiere which came out 20 years ago.

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>>387037026
>pre that card
Druid plays infi scaling Jades until you die
>post that card
They get AT BEST now
One Idol
Spirit
Spirit
Behemoth
Behemoth
Blossom
Blossom
Aya Blackpaw
Which means they now cap at 9/9. Fun fact, real Jade Druid doesn't pack a finisher. Idol WAS the finisher, and they made a card that deletes that finisher. That's like if they printed the same card for 8 drops. That would ruin paladin. Removing the win condition from someone's deck is kind of crippling to their victory chances. I know you're baiting because nobody is THIS dumb / new, but still. 4/10 I replied seriously incase any new rank 25 players thought you were even close to correct.

>>387038557
Not only do you have to waste a deck slot on a card to tech against a deck that you may or may not even run into, you also have to draw it. Jade druid isn't popular enough right now to even justify running it but if you don't you will auto lose to every jade druid. I fucking hate this design philosophy.

>>387038882
it works vs silence priest and thief as well. If you build your deck well you can fuck almost every deck synergy

>Restart on another region for the expansion so I can play with friends.
>need to do really well in Arena to get far enough to have enough money + dust for ranked.
>go 7 and 8 wins in Arena
>next two arena runs I get 60 point decks and go 1 and 3
>Its a crap shoot tavern brawl that you can't consistently win to farm gold

This expansion seems really expensive too, I got Uther of the Ebon Blade and Archbishop which are both useless this early and I need a ton of Ungoro/Gadgetzan cards for most other decks.
How the fuck are they meant to keep new players like this?

>>387034342
You fuckin moron

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>>387038882
Every well built deck dedicates slots to tech cards. E.g. swamp ooze, the fuck pirates crab, Eater of Secrets, etc. you fuckin numpty

>Adventures get introduced
>You get cut off from the new sets of cards unless you pay money or save up months worth of gold

This pay2win shit is when I stopped playing

>>387040090
But not one that targets ONE specific deck that is only maybe 10% of ladder. Harrison and ooze work against several decks, pirate crab is at least statted properly for a 2 drop and also targeted several different decks (not to mention that pirate cancer was a far more prevalent than jade druid currently). Geist does close to nothing against other decks.

>>387040268
Are you retarded? This expansion comes with a free adventure. I think they're going to do it like this from now on.

>>387040562
>>387039214

>>387034342
This is bait or you're a fucking idiot.

A version of hearthstone was a physical card game based around warcraft over a decade before hearthstone existed, Blizzard wanted in on wizards of the coast magic the gathering money and tried to enter the physical card game market. Only to fail rapidly.

Hearthstone is the remnants of that project and it succeeded solely on the fact, wizards of the coast doesn't make a good online game since it's physical fan base is so god damn embedded.

Blizzard didn't create anything new with fucking hearthstone, in fact their most original IPs are warcraft and starcraft.

>>387040654
past adventures gave you 30+ unique cards, now you get one leggendary, and a pack for each wing

>>387040784
What the fuck are you complaining about, not getting free shit? Free content, legos and packs aren't enough for you?

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>Bill Gates invented every game because he invented the PC.

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>>387040941
reminder that Ben Brode posts here during his work hours

>>387034342
I've stopped playing hs since the last expansion, what am I missing out on?

>>387041196
Its cooler than the last two expansions and has some interesting new mechanics but most of them aren't good enough to unseat the old cards.

>>387040941
i would love to invest more money into this game if it was worth it
When frozen throne came out i opened around 40 packs with gold i collected for a couple of months
After the first 30 packs, 4/5 cards were to dust
That means, if right now i spend 1.99€ in this game to get a pack, i will get 35 dust and a shitty and usless card, and after spending 30€ i will probably get a legendary that is probably not that good, or will become usless when the meta shifts in 3 months.
And if i didn't had 4k+ dust to craft some necessary cards i would be forced to spend a shitload of cash to get into the game.
So unless Blizzard makes something worth my hard earned money, they can fuck off

>>387041636
You aren't supposed to spend money on packs, or on this game at all really. Save up gold and play arena. You get 1 pack guaranteed + gold/dust depending in how good you do. Like 2-3 wins and you'll 'technically' have made your money back with a pack and ~50 gold. 7 wins for guaranteed 150+ gold (on top of the pack).

>>387035228
https://hsreplay.net/#live-data
Right now it's one of the most used cards. And it's a legendary too.