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Is the Monster Hunter fanbase the worst of any franchise? I've

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Is the Monster Hunter fanbase the worst of any franchise? I've never seen a community so dead-set on defending their games' often terrible design--willingly ignoring consistently broken hitboxes, unbalanced weapons, and often being very divided amongst themselves on the future of the series. Any constructive criticism ever aimed at the franchise is just seen as derivative drivel, and they proceed to lap up the same shit from the same pile and call it good. I can't even tell if a fan is being ironic or genuine anymore.
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The worst video game fanbase is whatever one you want to be the worst.
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As someone who has been playing since the first ps2 game: Yes, the MH community is fucking terrible. At least the western one, I know nothing about the japs.
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>>387030658
I figured they were just a vocal minority, I've never played a monster hunter though so I usually ignore them unless they come shitting up a souls thread
As a souls fag the soulsborne fan base is bad too
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>>387031019
Trying to criticize a game will have you called a shitposter. It's impossible to even remotely discuss the inherent flaws in some games without someone being derogatory.
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>>387030658
I think it's just that the people you're complaining about are very vocal, because I've met plenty of people online (random rooms and some friendly thread gatherings.) who just genuinely love the game.
Alot of it's just shitposting for fun too, which gets confusing when even this thread started off like an "ironic" OP.

It's not like it's the exact same shit from the same pile either. They change it around, try new features and tweak things each new game. Compare 3U to 4U for example, same concept but it plays differently enough.
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Yeah it is the worst community. Because it's composed of nothing but nintenbros who sit on their handhelds all day. Even in public. Too ignorant to admit pic related as being the best
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I always thought the MH community was great.
Always open to conversations online, if you undertake a quest with a high level player they'll put on balancing gear so they don't just carry you and treat you like a baby.
Threads (prior to world announcement) were cozy and everyone would be humble, discussing weapons, monsters, installments.

Don't take it the wrong way, but I have no idea what the hell you're talking about, OP. Has it really gotten that bad with the console warring?
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>>387030658
the community is fine and the gameplay complaints are always from casuals.
the game themselves though are quick expansion tier though and they clearly milked it too hard. like there's 4 MH games on 3ds alone.

MH world is going to be huge however. An actual console-based MH is what the series needed.
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It begins
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>>387031386
>An actual console-based MH is what the series needed.
Literally right here underage >>387031365
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How is MH community BAD.

They probably are the only one here that ENJOY PLAYING THEIR GAME
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At least it's not like kirby where all they do is talk about how "good" their fanbase is all the fucking time.
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>>387031438
It didn't explode until psp and then stayed in portable hell for a decade. The console releases were even just random expansions rather than new games for the hardware.
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>>387031480
>ENJOY EATING SHIT
FTFY

I'm not gonna say the games aren't fun, I personally love the franchise, but it's incredibly queer to me that the community seems to be so divisive when it comes to critiquing their favorite series. Fuck, >>387031386 came in here to say that the "complaints" are generally from casuals. There's no such thing as criticism when it comes to Monster Hunter, only bellyaching apparently. Even a casual player could make an astute observation from time and time, they're not incapable of analysis. In fact, it's more likely that a casual player would just keep banging their hand against the grind and fail to see the underlying issues.
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>>387030658
Melee
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>>387030871
in that case the Shrek Super Slammed fanbase is the worst
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I miss old and comfy MH threads without the reddit console war.
Now they are nothing but people pretending to know what are they talking about, following the epic bandwagon for crazy upvotes.
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>>387030658
>it's yet another MHW shill/damage control thread
Trying to shame people for calling the game out on the bullshit changes in an attempt to shill your game I see.
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>>387031903
That's because it's shills pretending to be part of the community and trying to shut down the people who have any kind of concerns over the game.
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Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate is a perfect, infallible game that truly preserves the legacy of its predecessor without compromising itself with its design decisions at all.
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>>387031951
You know, you are right. I now remember somebody sending me a video of that gaijindude stating only those that dislike MH:W are nintenbabies, obviously blatant shilling. While many fans that have been playing since MH2 or even MH1 dislike many new 'QoL' changes such as activable mantles with cooldowns, swapping gear mid-hunt (I personally believe this is pretty cool but I'm sure many will use this as excuse to AFK/Leech longer), or that magical casual fairy dust.
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No one actually defends this cunt's absolutely busted G-rank hitboxes for any other reason than "I've suffered through him, so now everyone else must also suffer". Getting hit by attacks before they've even visually happened is just bad design.
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>>387032212
Just dodge when he turns.
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>>387032116
>infallible
It replaced Moga Woods free hunt with a terrible randomised mode.
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>>387032212
>Getting hit by attacks before they've even visually happened is just bad design.
It's a mediocre design, but does it actually happen with Garuga? If yes, what game? I don't remember this scenario
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>>387032378
It happens in MH4U G-rank. If you're close to his legs when he decides to do his instant retard run, you'll get hit while he's still standing still, a split second before he actually starts running.
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>>387032378
I could be wrong, but I believe he's talking about how your hunter gets hit by the charge before the Gargua even starts moving.
As in, your hunter is already flying backwards through the air by the time Garuga's feet have done that odd looking backwards movement he does when he runs.
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Post World
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seriously, never heard of this game.
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>>387032817
Fuck off shill
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>>387032817
I wish I could draw well so that I could draw Great Jaggi and this fella hanging out.
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>>387032898
I didn't like this shit at first but then I thought.
How is paintballs any less casual?
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>>387032963
>how are paintballs less casual than running while drinking a potion
You tell me.
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>>387032898
Post XX, I don't care.
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>>387032963
>the player is running so fast anon didn't even realize he was drinking a potion
Kek
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>>387032898
Defend this anti-shill!
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>>387033027
>>387033136
I thought the fireflies was the focus of that webm
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Where all the anti-shills at?
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>>387033225
>getting hit ever while being able to run
Not a scenario that's ever going to happen in real play.
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>>387033703
Except in that webm
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>>387033225
Is this webm supposed to be for or against MHW? It clearly shows the fucker running away at full speed from the monster attack while chugging a ice cold Mountain Dew
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>>387033801
Healing is over time now because you don't chug your potion all at once. If you get hit during the healing process, you lose all healing. So yeah, for or against, you decide.
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>>387033754
The nigger was standing still for no reason when he got hit though.

That's how it would work in a REAL monster hunter game where you cannot move in that animation. The "punishment" for drinking a potion was entirely avoidable in that webm.
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>>387033669
>maybe I'll just gulp him up
>but I had a big lunch
>oh we-
>HOW COULD HE ROLL AWAY?
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I'd challenge you to name a fanbase BETTER than MonHun, if anything. Literally the only game that's sufferable to play online without muting everyone.
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>>387033874
But he can run. You said he wouldn't get hit when he can run.
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>>387033880
Given the current "fans" of World that's not very hard.
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>>387033854
But that's irrelevant as getting hit while drinking a potion is EXTREMELY hard.
>>387033903
Exactly, he can run but didn't. The player chose to stand still and get hit for no reason, thus not even taking any advantage of the new potion drinking mechanics.
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>>387033954
So you can get hit.
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>>387033985
If you let go of the controller, yes.
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>>387034032
Ok then. So in conclusion, you can get hit even when you can run and heal.
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>>387034087
If you make zero effort not to, then yes.
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>>387034173
Just like everything in life. Just like your sex life.
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>>387034087
Why would you not move?
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>>387034087
If you stop playing without closing the game.
In other words with can't get hit when actively playing the game.
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>>387034234
Ask the guy playing.
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>>387034242
Yeah so make sure you play the game
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>>387034204
>Gets so btfo he starts pretending to be retarded
Wew
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>>387034334
Where you won't get hit.
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>>387034430
Sure.
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>>387033880
MH has voice chat?
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>>387034590
Yes
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>>387030658
Get good faget lol
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>OUR community is THE worst XDD
it's like highschool all over again where each class claims to be the worst
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>>387034657
Are we talking about 3DS MH right now?
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>>387031365
I hate the 3ds and nintendo, but saying 4u isnt the best game in the series is just plain wrong.
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>>387034912
aRe WE TalKiNG aBoUt 3dS Mh RiGhT NOw¿
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>>387035025
I honestly couldn't tell you, sorry.
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>>387030658
What? People question a lot of design decisions within the series all the time.

>Worst fanbase?

Every time this is asked it's generally from poster browsing select few kinds of threads.
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>>387033136
>fast
>it slows down to normal nonsprinting speeds while still costing stamina
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>>387035583
Someone didn't look at the webm where he's still moving above walking speeds
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>>387035996
Yes, not walking speeds because he's using stamina to go up to the standard running speed, like when you run normally without spending stamina.
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I got 4U to try out the series because MHW looked pretty cool.
- The 3DS is absolutely terrible for 3D games. I think I could tolerate the camera if I actually had a second analog input to turn it with.
- These initial quests are goddamn boring and there seems to be no end in sight. Fetch quests where you wander around looking for randomly spawning shrubbery and maybe fight a monster that doesn't die in one hit. Great Jaggi is described as the first interesting thing to fight, but I have to disagree. It's just the least boring thing the game has shown me thus far. I think I'd have more patience for this monotonous time filler if the game weren't so damn ugly.
- I did the weapon tutorial quests where you kill a Great Jaggi and I can't really decide on one. Most of the game's difficulty seems to be in learning footwork for the monster's attack pattern. The weapon you choose doesn't really affect tactics, you just have to get used to the weapon's arbitrary meters to fill and specific conditions to meet for maxing damage.
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>>387037575
I don't think MH is for you then anon. Don't worry, it happens.

MHW will look better, but it's going to be pretty similar to what you've already played.
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>>387037575
Maybe you should try one of the earlier games in the series. The increased tutorialising was due to everyone bitching about the game being hard to get into when really it's not all that complex. They still have a few starter quests but you can breeze through them generally. The PS2, Wii and PSP games might look a little better too and at the very least you won't have quite so small a screen. Weapons do have unique styles to them and affect the approach to combat, but you're right that the main key is learning how to fight the monster specifically. That's not really a bad thing though.
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>>387030658
It's only that bad because it's now composed by the worst parts of three different communities, two of which are console warriors.
Other than that, all big games have horrible communities, the only decent communities are those for niche franchises.
>>387037575
Yeah, you're pretty much right for everything, keep in mind that fetch quest galore was a thing mostly for 4U though, not even MH2/FU had all those boring fetch quests, 4U's pacing is abysmal overall.
Keep on playing though, bigger monsters are more fun than a Great Jaggi, if you can't have fun you can try other games, though honestly, most of the hunting games all have the same problem you described with weapons, the only one that doesn't is Soul Sacrifice Delta, but that's hardly a hunting game, more like an arena brawler RPG with big monsters, wish MH could learn a thing or two from it because it would make it an even better game than it is now.
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>>387038193
>>387038378
I do have a PSP and can probably emulate Wii and others. Which game would be the best (and hopefully best looking) if I don't like 4U's pacing?
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>>387038924
Portable 3rd
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>>387039212
But it's moon only?
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>>387039298
There's an english patch that translates all the important stuff
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>>387038924
I've only played MHF2 on PSP and it's pretty great but I often hear FU or P3 as being the best on there.
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>>387030658
No, the Dark Souls fanbase is. Though too be honest MH and DaS fans probably overlap a lot.
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>>387033027
>paintballs
>50 minute time limit
>great sword
>max potions
>mushromancer
>various other QoL skills
Monster Hunter was always casual garbage.
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>>387033109
I like how people still rag on Frontier when Gen and XX are even more crazy. Not even tonfa are this flashy.
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>/v/ hates Fujioka and worships Ichinose now
What went wrong?
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>>387040158
Yeah, but at least Gen and XX don't have those deviantart tier monster desig- oh.
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>>387040158
I want to play Frontier and the only thing I dislike it is massive abuse of iframes and the 2nd gen look.
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New to 4U here, didn't think this question warranted its own thread. I know that shit like decorations and item multiplication from the wycoon can be done through village quests, but since I got it to play with my friend I'd like to just tackle guild quests, unless maybe one of us is free while the other isn't. Is there any equivalent of this stuff that can be gotten through doing guild quests or is it only attainable by going doing village until I get them?
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>>387033109
Thanks, I finally remembered to save this for next time people bitch about the "anime" movesets in MHW. Insect Glaive is the only one really reaching these levels which makes sense considering it's origins, and sadly because they did stuff like this they need to keep some remnants of it in MHW for those that play because of it, but it's not to this extent.
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>>387031740
Casuals are good for nothing. Fuck off.
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>>387041598
Don't forget this
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>>387041579
I think that stuff is locked behind village quests, but you should really do village quests anyway, if only to actually learn how to hunt without having someone else there.
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>>387030658
Monster Hunter has incredible design and gameplay and basically no bugs or glitches at all which is impressive. The hitboxes are pretty much perfect in all the latest games, no idea what you're smoking. And the games aren't even that imbalanced, not that it matters a lot anyway since it's PvE.

I criticize the game all the time because I know a lot about it. You are just a shitposting retard.
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>>387041598
It's funny how people like you are so concerned about console war shit, they don't realize that people who shit on MHW usually also shit on MHX, especially actual fans of the series.

>BUT NINTENDO
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>>387042696
Well I guess I have no choice then, thanks for the info though.
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>Is the Monster Hunter fanbase the worst of any franchise?
you havent seen shit yet, wait till its on pc.
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>>387041579
You mean enhancements to resource multiplication? MHGen I know at least provided the upgrades through Gathering Hall urgents as another means outside of village quests, but in MH4U there's other facilities and features locked behind the village, so there's incentive to go through the entire thing.

In every game kitchen ingredient upgrades are split between the two.
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>>387030658
You literally just described the Dark Souls fanbase without realizing it.
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>>387042419
I would but Insect Glaive is basically the same thing now, though at least it uses the jets of air to maneuver in midair as opposed to this which just flips, though that's really flimsy. If it only had the pilebunker launch to get into the air without the flips it wouldn't be so bad since that at least has justification.
>>387042925
I didn't mention anything about a console or Nintendo, only games.
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>>387030658
The fanbase only affects you as much as you want it to. I'm just glad we are getting two MH games that both look great. I'm hoping XX gets localized while MHW gets my friends into Monster Hunter because MH4U could not.
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>>387042925
So what are the actual fans of the series resort to playing now that MH is shit?
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>>387043064
Extremely different kinds of people play Souls games. The rift between pvp and pve players is fucking profound. MH players are all the same.
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>>387042979
I want to see some casual filters like Yian Garuga come back in MHWorld so there's at least seven threads complaining about them combined at any given time on /v/.
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>>387043235
>I didn't mention anything about a console or Nintendo, only games.
And I mentioned a mental block that doesn't let you see that someone can possibly criticize Nintendo AND a game on Playstation because you are a mentally disabled console warrior manchild.

>>387043352
We hope World isn't all shit, has some actually even areas that aren't a clusterfuck and, most importantly, a good monster roster.
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>>387031365
That fucking game caused me such asspain as a kid.
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>>387030658
Not even close:
>Chivalry.
>M&B.
>Street Fighter.
>DMC/Bayo.
>People that shill crpgs as good games.
>Nier.
>Kojimadrone.
>Smashfags
Are there good fanbases?
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>>387043235
That's the joke.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DlTTRlY7-E
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>>387043474
So why shit on MHW if you all are full of hope?
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>>387043474
Gee this is ironic AND embarrassing.
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>>387032708
>>387032731
Beak slams too
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>>387031787
It's easily melee fans. A bunch of autists clinging to their 16 year old game because even the slightest deviation to that formula would make them incapable of playing and competing at a high level
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>>387033109
I would actually play Monster Hunter if it were like this.
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>>387033109
Is Generation full of that shit? I stopped playing at 3U but I feel like hunting again. Should I go back to Freedom Unite until World comes out or is Generation good?
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>>387044215
>Is Generations full of that shit

LS and DB are the most notable offenders with flashy arts like that though Aerial/Adept styles can be used with any weapon with varying results. Particle effects in Gen/XX are ramped up in general too though.

>>387040158
The biggest difference is that Frontier simply had a power creep.

>>387041598
I guess the IG aerial dodges in MHW probably do its aerial part more justice than that fucking leap as well, which was the least useful part of the moveset that French shitters still swore by for some reason.
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>>387044691
Is there any way to play old school? I'm mainly GS and hammer user, I guess they're less anime but the hunter arts worry me. I'd like my old gameplay with new monsters, basically
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>>387038924
P3rd with HD textures is the best mh experience
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>>387043920
Why are you even on a forum when you're an anti-intellectuall who can't express himself beyond ad hominem and mindless drivel?
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>>387045278
I'm almost inclined to agree. It's certainly the least bad Monster Hunter. If it had G-rank any maybe some more gen 2 monsters it would be perfect.
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>>387045425
Ironic, embarrassing and now plain hilarious. I still don't know why you brought up consoles or even replied to my post in the first place but I'll simply say I've enjoyed both MH1 and 3.
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>>387045278

>no g rank

yeah no, fuck off sonybro
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It was fine when it was only PS2 / PSP games.

When it went to a 240p handheld, to people new to the franchise? That's a different story.
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>>387044859
If you're happy playing solo, you can play guild style with no Hunter Arts equipped, which is basically the same as playing regular MH. I think there's also a menu option for toning down the flashy effects, but I don't think you can get rid of them entirely.
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>>387031386
>MH world is going to be huge however. An actual console-based MH is what the series needed.

On the contrary, I think that there's a reason that the series ended up going pretty much full handheld in the first place. The core gameplay loop lends it self really well to portable, on the go play sessions.
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>>387030658
It honestly sounds like they have a pretty normal conversation, debating hitboxes and whether or not the series belongs on console or handhelds.
Maybe you just need to GIT GUD
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>>387045816
If I post my dick on my n3ds xl would you take that back
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>>387046104
This. Why the fuck would you play on a stationary console. The thought makes me want to vomit.
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>>387046104
>>387046663
Because in a game about going on quests to expansive lands to fight giant monsters, a sense of scale is important to the experience. On a tiny screen you don't get much of that at all. The only reason it really took off on portable was because the hunts just happened to coincide with Japan's travel schedule, and typing it now I can't help but wonder if they've been slowly shortening hunt lengths or trying to stay in that region of time to keep that intact.
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>>387047103
I don't know about you, but I felt like a Monster Hunter the same way I played the first time as I will in World. The game never needed to be fuck huge like that, and while I think it'll be a nice change of pace, don't delude yourself into thinking the 3DS games had any less sense of scope as the games before them, they're just focusing on the Hunting part instead of the Monsters like the old games.
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>>387047970
The exploration was a big and important part of all the games as far as immersion goes, that's what made the hunting actually feel like tracking a monster, those areas definitely do have to be that size for them to feel like inhabited lands and they weren't even all that big, same with MHW though they are bigger and seamless which is fantastic. I was referring to the smaller screen specifically though, I know the games have the same area and monster size but playing them on a tiny screen greatly diminishes that factor. I wouldn't say the 3DS games focus more on hunting than the games before, MHX was the first game in the series to have it's main new features purely focus on the combat aspect of the game rather than the exploration, crafting or overall hunting.
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>>387047970
>the 144p screen didn't matter at all!!
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>>387030658
>mh fans defend broken hit boxes

That's why there's a popular meme about how retarded the hip check from plesioth is.
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>>387030658
>people not realizing that this is the complaint thread starter for every MH thread
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>>387049549
Usually people put "mh thread" in spoilers at the end. Also since the world announcement there's been a lot of actual shitposting about these games, not just the normal ironic posts.
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>>387030658
I haven't seen a proper monhun thread in so long that this almost got me.
How are you fags enjoying the demo?
Post Friend Codes if you're going to get MHXX Switch.
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Personally, the MH games are some of my favourite of all time, but I wouldn't say the community is bad, more along the lines of "divided." You have the one half who you can converse with and ask for advice, and the others who think everything about the game is perfect and that anyone who didn't play Freedom Unite is a filthy heathen who robs oxygen from them.
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>>387050948
FU is probably still in my top 3, but I can admit the hitboxes and weapon balance are pretty shit. Still, it has a shitload of content, monsters we haven't seen since, and there's a certain charm to how broken it can be.
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Downloaded the XX demo on switch yesterday.
Is jet wyvern supposed to have this much health or is the demo gear just really fucking bad? I played Adept HH and managed to hit the time limit somehow
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>>387051257
Demo gear is bad, LR stuff for a HR monster
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>>387051257
Demo gear sucks shit
>Zero (0) active skills
>BM and Gunner have same defence
>Average 130 raw
>Green fucking sharpness
You'd have about 200 raw and Blue or White sharpness weapons if you were fighting him through village, not to mention actual armor skills.
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