>20 years of development

IT'S FUN TO STAY AT THE Y M C A

More like 20 years of shitposting.

I doubt he spent more than 20 days of actual development

GLORIOUS 5 FRAMES OF ANIMATION!

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>>387028158

>>387028158
Oh shit nigga they got a XOMBI

They did the mash!

>>387028158
S A P E S

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FRIENDLY REMINDER

The small minority of prolific samefags that support the game blindly should be ridiculed or avoided. Their posts are redundant and easy to spot often including:

>Sape (negative)
>Thal (positive)
>Incline
>Blobber
>The spelling "Grimwah"
>Pressure to purchase Grimoire
>Contempt for the pirating of Grimoire
>Claims that uploaded copies of Grimoire contain viruses, bitcoin miners, keyloggers
>Insults and slurs intended to bait someone named Andrew
>Labeling of the game's art style as competent to gorgeous
>Labeling of the game's detractors as "Goons" or "Weebs"
>Stale memes
>a heavy reliance on buzzwards
>Idolatry involving Cleveland Blakemore
>Prejudices within the genre based on game region
>Grandstanding
>Elitism
>Rabid belligerence
>Ignorance regarding good game design
>Ignorance regarding good writing
>Ignorance regarding color theory
>Ignorance regarding math and the interactivity of simple systems

Poor reasoning and argumentative skills are also characteristic. When faced with logic they'll adopt a veteran gamer stance and insist their opponent is better suited playing games generally regarded as casual, i.e. "Go back to Skyrim, kid." Or the new favorite, "You haven't even played Wizardry."

Bottom of the barrel shitposts from rookie anglers.

giggity

DED GAME LOL!

>>387029165
It was the Monster Mash.

Can't believe i share this board with stupid people who bought it.

Can anyone upload version 1.2.0.19?

>>387028158
seriously what is this game? couldn't really be more than 20 years is it?

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>>387028202

I don't think my PC is powerful enough to play this game. Anyone have a link to pirate it so I can try it

>>387029873

when you have to wait 20 years for a shitty 5 dollar game the autism multiplies, I expect no different when star citizen finally comes out, the people defending it will be on par with xv-kun

>>387031403
Don't bother, Cleve's army of dick-riders installs keyloggers on pirated copies and there's no way to tell the good versions from the bad.

Better off trying again in a month when a) Cleve's done patching the game and b) Codexfags have some other turd to shill.

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>tfw too sape to enjoy GOTY

>>387030957
that's not Battleborn

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>>387032503

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>>387032869
>still above battleborn

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>>387033719
>Having 10 more active players than Battleborn is an accomplishment

>>387033719
Man, you know your game is dead when you're barely edging out Battleborn.

Has a game ever died as quickly as Grimoire has or is this a new record?

>>387033787
i dont think he was implying that

Explain this game to me.
Is it good? Bad? Come out recently so thats why all the threads? Contreversal?

>>387034161
It's literally the biggest TORtanic since TORtanic

>>387034161
In a nutshell
>Dev spends 20 years making game.
>Game comes out
>Buggy as hell on release
>Dev patches game
>Creates more bugs
>Also, save files were being corrupted
>Repeat 2 more times over the course of a week
>People are refunding game left and right.
>Discovered that stats do nothing
>Discovered that final areas of the game are unfinished
>DRM being planned by Dev to stop piracy
>Shills downplay every major issue and accuse anyone who shits on game of being a reddittor/goon/SJW/etc. because they believe that anyone who hates the game is a part of some conspiracy to ruin the game because the Dev is outspoken /pol/lack.
>Now that the 10% off sale has ended, shills are nowhere to be found.
>Each thread made in the last two days dies before reaching 150 posts on average.
And that's all you need to know about this clusterfuck.
>TL;DR: Dev spends 20 years to shit out a turd that couldn't even come out in one solid piece.

>>387029873
this is probably bait but if you honestly think any of these people really want you to buy this single player game you're dumb
its all just a big meme
sure they play it but why would they shill

23 years*
development started in 1994

>>387034562
Sounds like Star Citizen in another 15 years

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>>387029873
>Andrew STILL mad he got BTFO

>>387029873
>Waiting 20 years to post this shit every thread

>>387034659
Were you in the earlier grimwah threads? If you were, you would've seen all kinds of shills spouting their moronic opinions (which basically boiled down to "everything that isn't grimwah is made for casuals and all grimwah's flaws are a conspiracy made by SJW's.")

I think the dumbest post I saw was some shill going on about how Grimwah was more complex than Dwarf Fortress because DF uses ASCII graphics while Grimwah has used "actual" assets that took more time to program for.

And his reasoning for this? He watched a Let's Play of it and read boatmurdered one time, so that meant that he was an expert on it even though he never actually played it.

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>>387034659
I mean. Why do people shill all the time? Not everyone is a paid advertiser. Some people made a bad purchase and just get in denial about it. Like the hype was too real, so they run they search desperately for the good things and then get defensive when people say its bad. Then you're installing a mod that removes the stupid red glow around enemies that ruins the whole character customization side of the game and without that you're playing a shitty dumbed down Enemy Territory, a free game. But this time you paid 50 dollars for it. Why did I pay 50 dollars for Brink, someone pls explain it to me.

>>387034562
The fucking retard should let the pirates be, the game needs any players it can get, momentum and people talking about the game is everything for sales.

>>387031023
The spooky splash

>>387035260
The cuckold meme brap

>>387031357
unnerving

>>387034562
>Also, save files were being corrupted
It's like the shitposters actually want to show their retardation towards other people.

>>387034659
They're not professional payed shills, they're fanboys who truly believe that this game is good, well, not just good, better than everything else in the market. Many have been following development for years, others adore Cleve because of his internet persona, in any case they're too emotionally invested to realize that the game is mediocre and that quantity doesn't equal quality.

>>387035594
It ironic you say this considering this posts sounds retarded as hell.

>>387035594
You shills just don't know how to keep a low profile don't you? Just because the dev fixed the bug eventually doesn't mean that it didn't happen (multiple times, lol), nor does it mean that the game didn't lose momentum because of it.

Next time, lurk more and stay quiet.

>>387035748
Considering the game isn't even finished, you can't really say that it has quality or quantity on its side.

>the /vg/ thread isn't up
Someone better make one by tomorrow or else I'mma make it.

Daily reminder that those who are butthurt about Grimoire are buttarded casual weebs infuriated that literally all of their weeb DRPGs combined are outclassed by Grimoire in every single way as evidenced by the non arguments about gameplay itt.

>>387035748
>the game is mediocre
Compared to what retard? Every single Grimoire player have already played M&M and Wiz series. Grimoire is an excellent successor to Wizardry beating the shit out of Wiz6 and its predecessor.

>>387028691
man I'd love if this was an SMT game instead

>>387036126
Just let the dead game die anon.
>>387036161
>Grimoire is an excellent successor to Wizardry
I hope, for the sake of the Wizardry franchise, that you're just blowing smoke up our asses. Because holy shit, even Sonic '06 is more stable than this garbage, and most likely cheaper to boot!

>>387036272
You've failed to answer my question
>Compared to what retard?

>for the sake of the Wizardry franchise,
Oh this is cute, tell me what other excellent successor to Wizardry are there in the market right now?
The only thing beside Grimoire is Demise:Ascension

>>387036161
You marketers were talking about how this shit was more complex than DF lol. Excuse me if I'm a bit hesitant to believe you when you claim that Grimoire outclasses anything.

>>387036618
>successor to Wizardry
Wizardry

So what has happened? Only yesterday before I went to bed there was active grimoire thread on /v/ and also thread on /vg/. Today there is no thread on /vg/, there was no thread on /v/ for many hours and now this thread barely has any replies. Did everyone already forgot about the game? Did codexfags gave up on shilling?

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>>387036618
>he hasn't played journey to Aboria

>>387036618
>Compared to what retard?
Literally any indie game released in the past five years, even the shitty ones. I could buy Wizardry 6-8 for a fraction of the price Grimoire is asking of me, I can play games like DF, Nethack, or Adon for FREE, and even games like Mighty Number 9 or Yooka Laylee came out with less issues at launch than Grimwah did, and MN9's Wii U port is exceptionally shit.
>Oh this is cute, tell me what other excellent successor to Wizardry are there in the market right now?
None, because the genre is dead and became shit like SMT and Etrian Odyssey, whose only similarities are being single-player, first person, dungeon crawls where everyone in the party moves at the same time.

>>387036890
> Did codexfags gave up on shilling?
Yes, they only needed to push people to buying the game while it was on sale. Now that the game's done, there's no reason to shill this garbage anymore.

Should I buy this game? Seems like a fun experience, not even memeing.

>>387037131
>Should I buy this game?
No, at least not until Cleve's done implementing his DRM bullshit. Once we know it's safe, go for it chief.

So did anyone ever figure out what the fuck different attributes even do apart from the skill up shit? Jesus christ where's the manual cleve you fucking sape, half the game is about stats and numbers and you leave people to guess? Damn this game's release could have been a billion times smoother if he had some non-autist to give him advice.

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>>387037264
They literally do nothing.

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>all of these angry children mad that they cant pirate a game without getting keyloggers

>>387037131
Do you like the genre? The quality content is certainly there but the game isn't exactly polished so the experience is somewhat rough, especially the first hours.

>>387037131
if you liked wizardry you will enjoy it

>>387037458
>>387037496
>>387037231
Are the memes about stats not doing anything and such true?

>>387037264
http://grimoire.wiki/index.php/Attributes

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>>387035074
I swear I'm not sure if that wasn't Daddy Thal himself. Someone kept replying to negative Grimoire posts in that thread with things like

>Friendly reminder that feminist blobs claim to be "harassed" and real game designers get shit like this thread every single day

Yeah, anybody could've posted it but it can be read as a personal observation as well. (why else would a dev be exposed to shitposts everyday unless he's shilling on /v/, though...)

Kek at Cleve playing victim if the latter were the case.

>>387037551
Unfortunately yes. Most of your stat boosts come from your race/class and the points you put in don't really matter for much, aside from a negligible boost that won't be noticeable during actual play.

>>387037728
That kills it for me

>spreadsheet simulator
>changes in numbers don't actually do anything

POETRY

>>387038039
They actually do something.

>>387038039
Actually we have no proof of that. Are you going to trust someone who used cheats engine to modify stats? Cleve uses rolling stat totals at four different addresses to save registry processing or some shit. It's literally nuclear power plant coding level, ancient numerics that most shitters today will never ever comprehend.

>>387036643
>You marketers were talking about how this shit was more complex than DF
Wtf are you babbling about you comple utter strawmanning retard? I love DF and think it is a more complex game than Grimoire but that doesn't mean Grimoire itself isn't a good and agreat successor to Wizardry.

>>387037001
So I was right, there are literally no other fucking modern DRPG that can compare to Grimoire. The only other examples are horrible weeb Dungeon Crawler like EO and SMT which is a mockery to Wizardry.

>Literally any indie game
Face it, you're literally scraping the bottom of the barrel for your argument. Most of the bugs have been fixed and the game requires more hours to complete than your average SanFrankenstein and Commiefornian AIDS dispensing indie games.

Also, why does my previous post got deleted

>>387038204
>Actually we have no proof of that.
You shills keep saying this and yet you never actually show us any proof that it isn't so. Now if it wasn't true, surely you'd be able to disprove it easily, wouldn't you say?
>Cleve uses rolling stat totals at four different addresses to save registry processing or some shit.
>It's literally nuclear power plant coding level, ancient numerics that most shitters today will never ever comprehend.
There's a reason why modern engines don't require this much bullshit to work anon. This is the year 2017, we've long since evolved past the need to compute code in this manner.

>>387038129
No, they don't. Everything's dependent on your race and your class.

>>387038284
>Also, why does my previous post got deleted
Because you're the most obvious marketer/troll this week. Go back to your hugbox on steam or RPGcodex.

>>387036161
>Compared to what retard?
See? they immediately become aggressive when you question the quality of the game, even with mild words. As I said, they're too emotionally invested and so respond emotionally to arguments.

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the game is legit fun, for me at least, i liked the memes before the game released and looked like vaporware, but now, its pretty aight besides some crashes here and there

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What the fuck was their problem?

>>387038910
diddley diddley doooooo
i love these sounds

>>387038868
>Pretty alright
>Aside from crashing here and there
It figures you'd shill your shitty game using Pewdiepie.

>>387028158
>THEY DO THE MASH

>>387034562
>the Dev is outspoken /pol/lack
Ha ha, really? All I've heard about was some silly shit about neanderthals.

>>387038721
>Because you're the most obvious marketer/troll this week.

I also said I love DF and think it's a more complex game than Grimoire. Does this mean I'm shilling for DF?

I also said that the only alternative close to Wizardry is Demise:Ascension. Does that mean I'm shilling for that too?

Or maybe people just enjoy the game and think it's better than all weeb DRPG combined. There is nothing wrong with this opinion you cumbucket.

>>387038745
>See?
I see that you've failed to answer my question.
>Compared to what retard?

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>>387038946
????
what, why are you so angry

>>387028158
DONT MAKE FUN OF MY MAGNUM OPUS NORMAL FAG GO BACK TO PLAYING CALL OF DUTY REEEEEEEEEEEE!!!

>>387036973
>a game so obscure it returns 0 results in google

>>387039092
>There's nothing wrong with liking to eat shit, it's just my taste anon!

>>387039092
>Or maybe people just enjoy the game and think it's better than all weeb DRPG combined.
This right here
>There is nothing wrong with this opinion you cumbucket.
...coupled with this response is what makes you an obvious marketer/troll.

You can't just state your opinion on a thing, you have to do so while also shitting on something else, like those TV ads where people "compare" different brands of toilet paper and their brand ends up being more absorbent.

If you have to state an opinion, just state the opinion. Don't try to talk down to other games just because your game is crashing and burning.

>>387038536
But it makes the game runnable on a Macintosh toaster from 1999.

>>387039491
Too bad it's only available on steam.

What's a good alternative for a dungeon crawler that I can emulate on my phone that isn't etrian odyssey?
That also has automapping.

>>387038940
>I NEED A TINY ROW

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weebs BTFO

Version 1.2.0.21 already

post download faggots

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>>387028158
>game looks like it's from 1991
>still has better animation than Bethesda games from 2017

>>387040394
We need it.

>numales whining about make-believe Grimoire shills and implying the game is dead
How it feel to be on the wrong side of history, faggots?

>>387040598
>Flat colors
>Five frames of animation
>Literally the same sprite copy-pasted three times.

>Better animation than Bethesda.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXKY3D9GQXI

Keep dreaming.

>>387029873
Are you the faggot that got doxxed? Give it up already Andrew.

>>387028158
>About 23 hours into my second playthrough
>Find an anulet in a random corner of the dungeon
>Identify prompts a message ERR_NONE in the message box
>Give to my wizard rat
>His intelligence is now -2147484368
>Whenever I cast a spell now game hangs for 3 seconds and suddenly the encounter has ended with no message, sprites still visible
I have found a way to speedrun this game

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>TFW the shitposting is over
>TFW the game is mediocre
Wish it never released

>>387039357
>There's nothing wrong with liking to eat shit, it's just my taste anon!
This can be said to all games anon.

>>387039419
I didn't state an opinion, I stated fact that IT IS better than all those games combined.

>>387043186
no it's not
no it's not

one more strike and you're out.

>>387043186
And being mediocre is the worst that could happen to this game.

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>tfw you are enjoying grimoire while 2-3 militant shitposters cry about it on /v/ because the developer said he hates niggers
This actually genuinely is the goty btw. Don't listen to the faggots. They just want you to be miserable like them. At least try the pirated version. Game has a lot of heart and feels like it had 24 years worth of work in it. One of the earlier dungeons in the game took me 10 hours to fully get through. All the maps are so packed with stuff its nuts.

I wonder how hard this game would be without deep freeze/music/lethal blow

>>387037319
But that's wrong, retard.

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>grimoire ratings back up to mostly positive
>sales are slowly increasings
>sapes in full damage control

>game can't be completed
>blames a majority of issues on pirates despite easily seeing people own the game
>refuses to acknowledge his own incompetence

>>387044040
>game can't be completed
Wrong.

>>387035074
>Were you in the earlier grimwah threads?
Not him but I have read almost every single of these threads and you are absolutely retarded. Yes, there are people playing the game and some of them like it despite the obvious flaws. Nobody thinks this game is worth 40 bucks. It's all memes. Stop posting.

>>387038204
He used cheat engine for experience, not to directly increase stats.

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>>387044343
>Nobody thinks this game is worth 40 bucks.
Its worth every penny, Andrew.

https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/386412837/#386415707

>>387044094
You're right, the inability to get all the tablets and access all areas to beat the game doesn't mean you can't beat the game. The fact that the areas are completely unfinished when you location hack into them isn't indicative of anything either.

https://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/grimoire-release-thread-massive-incline.117563/page-141#post-5252056

HAHAH AI'T S ONLY 60 HOURS LONG SUCK IT GRIMWAKEK

>>387037701
100% that was Steve

>>387044537
>You're right, the inability to get all the tablets and access all areas to beat the game doesn't mean you can't beat the game.
>The fact that the areas are completely unfinished when you location hack
Literally the day after this was posted it was discovered to be a complete lie and the one area that was broken was immediately fixed.

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Guys, don't play Grimoire. You should play superior games for dudes with great taste like me!

>>387044891
>when you know you can't defend the shit game so you have to attack an autistic furry

>>387044891
pugb and rocket league make him euthanasia-tier

>>387029873
>>387034562
>>387035074
>>387038536
>>387039419
>the weary adventure is even making shit up now
tfw youll never be a sape

>>387044963
Why defend an autistic furry who constantly make these threads?

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>>387043552
Nice try, Cleve

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>mfw I found a playing card in an ACME machine that casts level 7 timestop

>>387044671
>fixed
You mean added

>>387045543
How was I defending him? It was an observation.

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>>387044891
He looked like a sociable guy from his pics, handsome and smiling. Probably has lots of friends and accepts game invites like a chad instead of being antisocial and refusing to play that "uncool" game all his friends like. Not everyone's game history is a carefully crafted autistic representation of elitism. Mine looks pretty bad too out of context. So does fucking Cleve's while we're on the subject.

>>387046856
>codexfags keep writing get back to skyrim
>it is actually one of Cleve most played games on steam

welp

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>>387044578
>more like 80-90
>for one of several endings

>>387047258
>one of several

>>387043552
> One of the earlier dungeons in the game took me 10 hours to fully get through.

Thats a problem on your end, a codexer is about to 100% the game and so far he has 60 hours clocked in.

>>387047128
he probably just plays it for the waifu mods

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>>387044891
>DARK SOULS™ III
>113 hrs on record

>Dark Souls: Prepare to Die Edition
>113 hrs on record

>113

>1
>1
>3

>1 + 1 = 2

>2
>3

23 YEARS

>>387047362
>Thats a problem on your end, a codexer is about to 100% the game and so far he has 60 hours clocked in.
Playing the super demo already knocks about 20 hours off of that estimate. I restarted the game at one point and it took me 2 hours to make what was previously 6 hours worth of progress.

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>>387043371
>Muh opinion is fact

>>387047362
He's at 78 and is at 80-90, as he said himself. Steam is at 60, not his total playtime.

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Unironically the most fun game I've had playing a video game in years. Only playing BG1 as a kid comes close. Grimoire broke my 4chan addiction.

>>387043795
Nobody has disproved it yet, so it's probably true and shills are in full damage control.

>>387045151
>Everything I don't like is false information.
>You should only listen to me.
How about no fucktard?

>>387046856
>Neanderthal prime keeps telling people to play Skyrim as an insult.
>Has over 23 hours of Skyrim under his belt.
YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP!

>>387047708
78% 80-90hrs

>>387034562
>Discovered that final areas of the game are unfinished

Ooh good, I haven't read about this. Illuminate me on what it is and what Cleve's most savage response has been.

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Grimoire is averaging just under 300 players per day, and sold to around 3000 players:
https://steamdb.info/app/650670/

Most Grimoire players will not be participating in Grimoire threads because the game broke their /v/ addiction and actually rekindled a love of video games long since lost, and also because you can't alt-tab out of it while playing.

You know that the only reason you are here is because video games lost their thrill, so you shitpost about a hobby you once enjoyed but no longer can. Grimoire has that thrill.

>>387029873
t. Andrew

>>387047939
To be fair, 23 isn't a lot

>>387048127
Who is this guy? I missed a couple of day worth of threads at some point and something had happened?

>>387048349
Guy shitposted about grimoire so he got doxxed and now everyone that says anything bad about the game is him.

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>>387047128
>>387047939
THAT'S MY SHITTY PLAYLIST

Here's Cleve's it's not so bad
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198003430316/games/?tab=all

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>>387048457
I see, makes sense then.

>>387048127
3000 * 40 dollars = 120 000. That's just the highest possible estimate, but still he made bank from this shit

>>387049212
Apply the 200k he spent developing this game before saying he made bank faggot.

are the dungeons even diversified or just the same copy pasted shit all the time??

>>387049212

Steam gets 30% cut + refunds.

>>387048527

Ever notice how game developers dont play games.

>>387048127
>because you can't alt-tab out of it while playing
it has a windowed mode though

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HOLY SHIT ITS HAPPENING

>>387049714
How many hours played?

>>387049714

That text is horrendous.

>>387050141
your moms text is horrendous

>>387049714
L O N D O N
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D
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Does anyone else think that when Cleve says the game is 600 hours long, he's going by 1997 time when things like the internet didn't exist like it does today?

It'd certainly make sense all things considered.

>>387048127
but i can alt tab out of it

>>387050275
he cut some to make grimore dlc and second part

>>387050129
Probably like 16 hours not counting time before restart.

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How old is the average Grimoire player?

>>387050275
Considering many people are nearing the game's completion at ~70 hours and they are the first with no guides I'd say not even close to 600. Probably 600 if you run through the game 8 times using each class and each gender for each class.

>>387050552
30-40, mostly because they're from RPGcodex.

>>387050772
>you're now imagining the 30-40 year old manchildren that cross-site shitpost in these threads

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>>387050552
I'm 27.

>>387050275
The 600 hours includes waiting for patches to fix progression bugs and restarts due to broken saves.

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>>387047258
http://store.steampowered.com/app/650670/Grimoire__Heralds_of_the_Winged_Exemplar/

>600 hours of play possible in a single game

>in a single game

HARAM BARAM CHILLUM WILLUM GARAM

Is it the hour of the Wilderbeast???

>>387051153
He said wiz 7 was 400 or something. Taking that into consideration along with his programming ability I'd wager his IQ isn't 183, but 83.

>That one Codexshill who claims the game to be as good Wizardry games, shits on nip games, and calls everyone who disagrees a SJW/redditor on EVERY.SINGLE.THREAD.
holy kek

>>387051452
Could be Cleve himself.

>>387050275
It inlcudes all the 23 years of development.

I'm sure a ton of people on the codex got more than 600 hours of entertainment before it was even released.

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>>387051452
That's me and several other people.

>>387034562
>Discovered that stats do nothing

Wait, seriously? So all those random stats like DEV etc are pointless?

>>387050141
>>387049714
reads like an intro into furry fanfiction

>>387051825
They either don't work at all or their impact is so negligible it might as well not exist.

>>387051825
read >>387037319

>>387039958
wizardry 6 snes

>>387051850
You would know, Andrew.

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>>387028158
>post yfw you didn't buy this shit

>>387051452
I mean what do you expect from Grimoire thread

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>>387051825
Some idiot tested them assuming they were like the stats in Diablo 3 or some other shit modern game when we already know they function like the stats in Wizardry and other similar games and now some asshurt faggot that Cleve btfo is spamming it not realizing it proves he hasn't played the game.

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>>387052120

>>387052170
>Stats don't work
>"That's not true"
>Here's proof
>"That doesn't count!"
>Where's yours?
>"FUCK YOU!"
Loving every laugh faggot.

>>387051962
What if I do? Does it change the fact? I don't think so.

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>>387052120

>>387051778
how do you feel knowing that you are the cancer killing /v/?

>>387053054
You can't kill what's already dead.

>>387053054
Well, /v/ is absolute shit now, so pretty good.

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>>387052120

Question does anyone have the post of the L.A. Race riot that cleave posted about in the rpg codex?

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>>387053214
No, but I have this. Enjoy.

>>387053448
I don't think a non-racist would try this hard to prove their innocence.

>>387038910
I NEEDY THY GOLD

>>387028158
He paid someone actual, real money for this artwork.

>>387049212
All will be spend on mcdonald coffee and whoppers.

>>387054073
>He paid someone actual, real money for this artwork.
CLEVE LIED AGAIN. I THOUGHT HE WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO WORKED ON THIS! FUCK!!!

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>>387053448
>How about the time I jumped in the East river during winter to fish some black crackhead up who passed out smoking on the docks?

My sides. Does Cleve just make shit up on the spot or does he build up these elaborate backstories over time?

>>387054235
He hired like 20 different people for artwork.

>>387054539
FUCK, LYING ASS PIECE OF SHIT!

REFUNDED!

>>387054235
Nope, it's not a true game by one person. He even hired another artist for the 1998 era version and all that art was replaced.

>>387054369
he thinks he's a neanderthal queequeg

>>387034094
Battleborn.

>>387054940
Battleborn at least had an initial spike when it first came before quickly dropping off the radar. This game start out low and stayed that way.

>>387034094
>Has a game ever died as quickly as Grimoire
its an extremely niche single player game, anything above zero is not dead

>>387055398
>anything above zero is not dead
Such standards. We all should have a bar as high as yours is right now.

>>387055454
Is there a single blobber on steam with more active players right now? No? Well fuck off then.

Knowing how retarded steam users are I'm sure moero will dethrone it, though.

>>387052170
They don't function like stats in Wizardry.

Stats in Grimoire serve as a way to unlock classes and there is a number for specific stats needed to finish certain puzzles.

For example, to beat the Entity in a Mind Contest, you cannot do it with 124 Int, but you can with 125 Int. Your other stats don't matter, at 124 Int, it was impossible to do from 0 to 100. You need a combined total of something like 150 Str to pull a plug later in the game. You need a certain amount of Int to read certain runes and monoliths.

Dev has an impact, but it bugs up later in the game with a high enough turn count which is unfortunate but probably a problem due to the way it is coded. Vit lowers by % depending on action used, con might increase Vit but it doesn't matter in the long run because if someone has 1k vit and another has 200, they'll run out at the same time with the same actions used, vit doesn't mean anything as a result. In fact, with Refresh, lower Vit is better because of the fact it lowers by %, refresh gets exponentially worse with higher Vit. Spe has a noticeable impact and is necessary later to avoid instant death. Wis and Int only serve to possibly gain skill-ups when casting spells and that's all. Des is noticeable because it increases the % chance of not dying to instant kill attacks. Using an NPC with 100+ Str/Agi and a Berserker with 60/50, they deal the same damage with the same weapons, and neither has a problem penetrating or missing even when raising an enemy's AC with paralyze.

Casting Skill doesn't actually mean anything either as far as I can tell because here at the End-Game, I tried casting Rainbow Rays on a Sage with 4 sorcery and another with 70 sorcery, and they have the same rate of failure.

Everything else is too low of an impact to actually matter.

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Who here /4 tablets/

>>387056070
>blobber
:9

>>387056345
8 Tablets here
Out of 8 because there is a chest missing in Blackspike and so you don't need the 9th Tablet that was never added into the game anyway.

How do you heal the turtle?

>>387057347
Look at him, he posted in the wrong thread!

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>>387057496

>>387057292
On a character with Healing spells, right-click and click Heal.

Like most other things in the game, it is bugged. After fulling healing him, which takes over 200 Magic in healing depending on luck, he thanks you and says he is no longer hurt. He gives you nothing, you get nothing and it is never brought up again. You go to Naiad and she also doesn't notice that Nick is healed and you get nothing for your efforts. Even when asking about Nick or what not. She is probably supposed to give you the Musical Instrument to summon creatures when on water tiles[with 2 charges] but she doesn't, even after finishing all of Waterport's quests and everything in the ocean, so just steal it.

Not that it matters anyway because if you did the sidequests and got the Mollusk Helmet, the Kraken won't attack and it'll fuck up the Kraken triggers because even if it went away it doesn't die so everyone still asks you to kill it and you don't get a reward for the entire thing like you should.

So is this up there with the great dugeon crawlers? Where does it stand against wizardy and might and magic games?

>try and build a tank
>armor value overflows

Have you ever strode so forcefully down the street that a homeless brother made the sign of the cross at the sight of your pecs and every step left microscopic cracks in the paving stones?

hey faggots post the latest version

>>387058374
1.2.0.21

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I just beat Wizardry 1 by savescumming like a bitch and skipping half of the game by using the elevator, is this game just as good or should I jump straight into Wizardry 2?

>>387058617
ufunnyeh

>>387058752
Wizardry did not even become kino until 6, bro.

>>387051153
>possible
>not guaranteed
Maybe it counts snack breaks/toilet breaks/shitposting breaks/writing patches to implement unfinished features breaks?

>>387029873
t. Sape brainlet

I still think it's cool when somebody has the inspiration and put in the work and actually finishes a game. If the game was in development for 20 years, I can imagine many things had to be redone over and over again.

>>387044891
>Dark Souls
>113 hours
>Dark Souls 3
>113 hours
What did he mean by this?

>>387059961
It was originally going to come out as early as 1997. He did fuckall since then.

>>387047939
Only sapes insult games without actually giving them a fair chance. 23 hours is enough to do the main stuff and decide for yourself that it's shit.

>>387060346
There must be some story going on in the background.

>>387059503
You mean 4, then it was downhill after that

>>387060963
4 wasnt even a wizardry game, it was a masturbation tool for masochists

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>>387052120

>>387061179
>I love hardcore dungeon crawlers!!
>gets presented with a dungeon crawler that is actually hardcore
>noooo it's to hard it's shit!!!

>>387049212
Those are not correct sales numbers from Steam. In fact, unless you are Valve or the Publisher, you do not have the actual sales numbers.

Steamspy and all the trackers extrapolate sales figures from guesswork algorithms based on various metrics (sales ranking, concurrent players, number of players with achievements, trading cards in circulation, etc.)

Since this game has zero Steam integration, the tracker sites are even more worthless.

However, you can get a pretty good idea about paid Steam users of the game by looking at reviews, comments and having experience from selling games on Steam.

My guess... less than 1000 (probably less than 750 after refunds) actual Steam sales and who knows how many keys sent out to IndieGoGo backers.

Anyway, actual net income in $ is probably less than $20k from Steam. Then he gets to pay taxes.

Though he does state he expects to sell 360k copies when all is said and done.

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>>387028158
Nintendo made nicer looking shit in 1993

>>387062915
>Though he does state he expects to sell 360k copies when all is said and done.
that's kind of sad desu

>>387063018
No shit... and if you look at the update posts he has made, you can see delusion runs in his veins. Though he also seems to have allowed the customer feedback to humble him some, which should hopefully improve the game going forward.

Still.. many people are enjoying the game, and he did release it, which is a win in my book.

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>>387063003
>looks
I play grimwah for the gameplay, humor, and superb maps. If I was going to play something for looks I'd just play pic related.

>>387063521
it's impressive, but more terry davis impressive than tarn adams impressive

>>387062915
>making shit up because some guy you don't like made a game that people bought

>>387063819
yeah, how does it feel?

>>387063819
What part is made up?

>>387029873
Funny thing is played wizardry, loved it, and still think grimoire is shit

>>387063819
I like the game (the .5 to .7 save problem was frustrating) and have just a tad bit over 100 hours in it so far.

What I don't like, is the idea that a single player game can be "dead" and then no one will want to buy/play it, releasing a game that obviously has the exact same issues that were in the Nov beta build and just hope things work out, being snarky to your customer base.

I don't know the dev personally, but have participated in a good number of discussions that happened to include him.

And like I said above, him releasing the game is a huge win, since many people that dream of releasing game, remain being a dreamer and no more.

>>387064734
The parts he didn't like, obviously.

are people just shitposting or are they actually asspained over Cleves racism?

>costs 40 dollars
>looks like dogshit
>"retro"

Is that what we are calling it now? Any game with 0 graphical fidelity is retro, any game with overly complicated stat and party management is "Old school hard xd"

Nah, this was DoA and 20 years of hard work for something that can't even be put in a portfolio because it doesn't work correctly and would make potential employers laugh in your face.

>ITT: Guy wastes 20 years of his life on a mistake because "muh time investment"

>>387065412
It's just shills trying to force a narrative in which Reddit is fucking up the game's reputation to spite Cleve, even though most of the game's faults can be attributed to Cleve's shitty programming.

>>387065632
Sunk Cost Fallacy is a helluva drug.

>>387031810
Play in a VM with no internet connection.

I don't know the requirements for the game, but they can't be high.

>>387066302
>Play in a VM with no internet connection.
I'm not going to go through the trouble for a game that isn't worth it anon. Maybe in a month once Cleve's done fucking with the code but not today.

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Um, guys? I forgot, does Clive's game have loli?

>>387066558
>I'm not going to go through the trouble for a game that isn't worth it anon.
It's no harder than emulation.

>>387066558
The actual exe and res file is quite primitive, and there hasn't been any keylogger on any of the mega uploads that I have seen posted in these parts.

However, if concerned, block it via firewall and scan it with the anti logger beta from Malwarebytes.

But I agree with you that waiting until the codebase is "stable" is probably for the best if you do not plan on getting it through Steam.

>>387066857
which doesn't mean it somehow makes it worth it

>>387065632
The game is older than you

>>387065412
I'd say people are more asspained about seeing a buggy half-functional game from a self-proclaimed godhuman

>>387067008
I'm older than the game and I agree with the anon you replied to

>>387067002
Doesn't mean that you can't try it if you're interested in the genre.

>>387067136
If I'm interested in the genre, I'll just torrent some of the Wizardry games or something.

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>Cleve's Linkedn profile
>Im a programmer that can make efficient, bug free software that can run on its own for decades without needing any manteinance
>Cleve on forums everywhere
>Im the best programmer in the world with the IQ of a genius, no one else on earth can compete with my work
>Cleve on his personal history
>I saved many companies with my miraculous software
>Cleve on his game
>Something broke grimoire and I dont know what it is, also this update isnt savegame compatible, also stats do nothing, also these quests are broken, also bugs up the ass

What did Cleve mean by this?

>>387068127
Cleve missed out on those 3 dollars

>>387065632

considering the length of the game and the fact he's a solo dev, he could have been working on the game all his life and actual devs would still be impressed

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Game confirmed at 85 Hours for 100% Secrets and all 5 Sidequests done.

>>387068198
It was a 20 year ruse

For all that is holy, someone please zip their .20 or .21 Grimoire folder and upload

>>387028158

Have any e celebs played this yet.

>>387068526
Actual one man devs have released better games, with less buggy releases, and more content to boot.

Hell, most of my favorite games were released by one dude who posted them on freeware sites for people to download at their leisure.

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>>387068609
>Game confirmed at 85 Hours for 100% Secrets and all 5 Sidequests done.

Some fucking game Cleve, I've played Final Fantasy titles that had more content!

>>387068609
someone on steam forums or rpg codex?
>inb4 multiple playthroughs to experience every starting location !!

So whats up with the dials in aquavia? I gather that they're supposed to be sun, star, moon but what does it do?

>>387028158
Not even joking
My top 3 games of the year so far
1.Gravity rush 2
2.Grimoire
3. Nier/Zelda
It was worth the wait

>>387069347
Allows you to enter a secret room in the causeway that has a jar you throw at the boss for massive damage and poisoning.

>>387050141

Purple prose is a hallmark of amateur fantasy writing. Like the wildly clashing art styles it's part of the game's charm.

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>>387068609
>5 side quests
>game through in 85 hours
At least that game has more gameplay hours than most AAA games which is not a big hurdle to begin with.

>>387068609
ok , rate the game

>>387068609
IT'S FUCKING REAL!
https://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/grimoire-release-thread-massive-incline.117563/page-145

>>387069653
2/10 too enough water.

>>387034161
In a sense Grimoire is a game that holds little appeal to a modern player seeing as it is, effectively, a Wizardry 7 successor. RPG players of today have no idea what to make of it.

>>387069653
8/10

5/10 due to having to wait about 4 days for the progression bugs to finally get fixed.

>>387069723
>>387068609
>>387069610
>Now I'll do the other ending, I feel like I got the weakest one, since there was more things to do in the place I was.
Nice try shitposter

>>387069808
>RPG players of today have no idea what to make of it.
Aside from it being a buggy ass game that had way more technical flaws than it needed to have, given the delays and the time it took to "finish."

>>387068609
lol he even shoved that stupid babby mascot in the fucking ending

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>>387066839
it has ?flying girls?

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>>387069895
I'm reluctant to believe that getting another ending is going to take up 15 hours, let alone 515 hours of playtime.

Besides, the pitch on steam said that it would take 600 hours per playthrough. Nice try shill.

>>387068609
>Thank you, Cleveland Mark Blakemore, for this amazing game. Clearly the best game of this decade(or of this two decades).
A fucking nearthdental just released the best RPG of this year
How does that make you feel /v/?

>>387069895
It's one area, the only difference is dialogue, the route you go and what item you chose from the Owl.

It's not going to take that much more time for the other endings.

>>387070297
>600 hours per playthrough
nigger learn to read
>in a single game
he is talkingabout grimoire
You just got Todd'd

>>387068609
Really dig that screen.

>>387070484
Read >>387070297
>I'm reluctant to believe that getting another ending is going to take up 15 hours, let alone 515 hours of playtime.
85 hours for an RPG is relatively short when compared to games like Doom and Destiny, Final Fantasy, SMT, Wizardry, The Witcher, Dragon Age, etc.
>You just got Todd'd
That would imply that I wasted money on this turd.

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>>387070297
>600 hours "possible"
he can grind levels for another 500 hours

>>387070829
If you need to add level grinding to bolster your game's playtime then you have some serious issues that go beyond it being too short.

Seriously, there are few RPG's that don't require grinding in some fashion.

>>387071047
There is also some serious backtracking involved, so now with a documented playthru and the various community wikis, i imagine a 60 hour walkthrough will be the norm.

Just another case of a dev rushing out a game instead of taking the time to do it right.

>>387067641
What's stopping you?

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>>387073563
he doesnt care about dungeon crawlers, he is here to get (you)s

>>387034562
Don't forget the dev's endless forum masturbation about how much of an amazing programmer and uberman he is... for 20 years. That's the most hillarious part.

>>387036618
>Oh this is cute, tell me what other excellent successor to Wizardry are there in the market right now?
Elminag Gothic

Anyone that actually believed 600 hours are probably the same people that buy into Todd's shit every time. Wouldn't surprise me if they preordered no man's sky.

>>387073141
Only took him 20 years to rush out a game!

>>387070717
Nearly all of the games mentioned take less than 85 hours to finish though, most are like 60-ish at best.

>>387074386
Cleve said Wizardry 7 has 400 hours worth of content.

I lost my hopes years ago.

>>387074949
Tbh if you don't turn off music and sfx it could easily climb up there.

>>387068609
The weird thing is his party was all lvl 9~10, with the minimum level required for multiclassing being 10 (apparently it doesnt even work properly, anons couldnt get assassin skills no matter what).
Lethal blow + deep freeze + hasted bard/sage never stops being a thing.

Wow. This thread is a symptom of a disease. The amount of coping both ways that's going on in this thread for something so plain and simple indicates you have been doing this for way too fucking long. I am so sorry your game hasn't come out yet, guys, but you have to admit you've been put in this defensive-offensive stance means you've been mulling over an unfinished project for way too long. The subcultures going on in this thread regarding this game are far too advanced for what should otherwise be a throwback toy. Something is clearly wrong. At least you can admit this isn't the way it's supposed to be, right?

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>>387075394
>apparently it doesnt even work properly, anons couldnt get assassin skills no matter what
Fucking Cleve

>>387075491
Jokes on you my game was cancelled 10 years ago

>>387056151
>Vit lowers by % depending on action used, con might increase Vit but it doesn't matter in the long run because if someone has 1k vit and another has 200, they'll run out at the same time with the same actions used, vit doesn't mean anything as a result. In fact, with Refresh, lower Vit is better because of the fact it lowers by %, refresh gets exponentially worse with higher Vit.
Holy shit that's retarded

It's actually really good if you're into old school dungeon crawlers. Haven't had any issues yet with crashes or bugs.