Anyone remember the awesome duology that was the Golden Sun series?

I like the DS game as well

I'm playing through Lost Age again, just got to Gondowan headed to get Piers and the orb for the boat

Alex > Isaac

I still have no idea how I managed to go past Air's Rock as a kid

>>387024114
For me it was pure coincidence.

>>387024114
I had the strategy guide pretty much memorised because it was both games in 1 and I only got it for the first game, but then spent ages pouring over the Lost Age section to look at the pretty layouts and bosses.
Kind of ruined the feel when I did finally get the game, but whatever.

>>387024114
beat my head against the wall til i found the way through

probably one of the most memorable things in my childhood

Isaac as a voiceless protag > Felix as a voiceless protag

Felix as a character > Isaac as a character

>>387025589

Isaac's group >>>>>>>>> Felix's group

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That Venus Lighthouse music

>>387023809
I was actually coming here specifically to ask about golden sun. Like, what 3ds games are similar to Golden sun. I want to play JRPG styled games.

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Sveta > Everyone

>>387026842
That's not a hard goal, everyone in DD was utter shit.

She is still a quality waifu and would probably go furry for her and her alone

>>387023809
was this the game where you're forced to lose to a boss at the beginning?

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I liked Dark Dawn.

It was a fun game minus the hindrances and mindbogglingly boring beginning, just not the game fans wanted for the series.

Mmm, this is some good mocha. I gotta get me some more of this shit.

>>387026924
Yeah

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>Golden Sun
>awesome

>>387023809
I remember it being hot garbage if that's what you mean Anon
A perfect example of graphics over gameplay. Great looking at the time, absolutely a slog to play. Dungeons sucked, combat sucked, the story was terrible beyond comprehension.

>>387024114
>statistically, it's only a matter of time before i find out how to get outta here

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>>387023809

>>387027483
>you fuck up on one of the I/ls
>you don't know which one

>>387024114

Hmm, I don't remember it to be that hard. Annoying, maybe, but not hard.

I think I got more stuck at GS2 because I kept going at Poseidon thinking I could beat him without the Trident, I believe? Either that or it was just a legitimately hard battle for me back then and I did had the Trident, I had to do him several times.

>>387027483

That shit was way too advanced for its technology (unless I'm unaware of something similar). Giant strings of of code/password that that somehow transfer ton of shit towards a completely new game. Did anything even accomplish that?

>>387024114
Air's Rock was one of my favourite dungeons in the entire game. Shit totally blew my mind when I got to the top of the mountain.

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>>387027483
>played gs2 first
>80% through first run
>find out i can't collect all the djiin or do the secret final dungeon

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>>387027483
>There was a link cable option!
>It didn't transfer absolutely everything over like the Gold password did

>>387028041

WHAT

The first 2 are possibly my favorite games ever.
DD is still okay for a jrpg, but I wasn't a fan of the 30 years later thing.
How did Alex not fuck shit up during that time?
I wish they'd just continue right after tla.

Name 5 things Dark Dawn actually did right

>>387028041
But the link cable carries over everything. What are you on about

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No. Those games where awful. I know you nintendo fags where hurting for RPGs on the GBA but those games where legit bad

>>387027597
l, I, 1, O, o and 0 were not used in the password anon.

>>387029763
This. Square was tied to the Wonderswan at the time and GS relied entirely on its (for the time) impressive battle graphics. Even then the games were horrendous. Just because there was nothing better doesn't mean they were good.

>>387029814
What really? I could have sworn they were and I got mixed up at one point about them. Maybe that's where my issue was since I didn't know that, or it could have been j and i. It's been a while.

Post favorite dungeons.

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>>387029303
>making Djinn within each element look unique
>reusing the Saturos battle theme for secret bosses
>that's all I can think of

>>387024114
I managed somehow and really never understood the meme for this dungeon. The actual puzzles weren't hard, the dungeon was just a fucking labyrinth.

>>387030279
The music in general was nice.

>>387029303
>Psynergy bestowing items now have 3 tiers
>Djinni have unique looks
>Music was pretty good most of the time
>Finally a Venus mage
>?
Yeah, can't do it. Still butthurt as fuck that they didn't show anyone besides Isaac and Garet. Or that they didn't advance the plot at all. Or cleared up the loose strings from GS/TLA, for that matter.

>>387028041
It actually did. It's the same as the gold password.

>>387027839
It's not really all that advanced. Camelot just reduced check routines into a long string of letters. There's even a password generator for it
http://home.earthlink.net/~paul3/goldensun.html

I still don't understand golden sun

>We need to stop the lighthouses from being lit
>oh wait we need to light them actually
>is the golden sun good or bad I dunno here's a neptune douchebag suck on the mountain

>>387030517
Different classes had unique animations for psynergy. The game wasn't all that bad really, it just wasn't the sequel everyone really expected or that the series deserved after all this time. The story wallowed a little too much in the original game with it's nostalgia bait without giving the things that would actually make sense to be focused on much time, while the most of the few new things they introduced felt forced and didn't really fit the world so well.
>>387030653
The lighthouses were sealing away an extremely strong power that was misused by people in the past, but the act of sealing it away and depriving the world of it meant the land was slowly deteriorating.

>>387030362
kino incoming

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lm3whmHT0v8

>>387030901
I'm not sure which Rock has my favorite music.

>>387030828
Meh I kinda enjoyed my time with DD. I agree it's not as bad as people make it out to be but I definitely won't pick it up ever again after my 100% run.

>>387023841
pleb

>>387030979
Try a no-djinn run if you want to have some fun with it before putting it away for good. You might have to level a bit for the Ice Queen but everything else in the game feels so much better to fight. It really puts into perspective just how easy the game is.

>>387031798
Maybe I will. I'm just trying to clear off part of my backlog and then maybe I'll replay the entire GS games with some self imposed limits. Is there anyone working on a hacking tool for DD? It's probably the closest we can get in terms of balancing the actual game.

>gs only jprg around
>won both GBA games from Fox kids competition
>feel of RPG's warped by nostalgia

>>387023809

I don't understand the storyline. "We need to chase them to stop them lighting the lighthouses, even though they are way ahead of us. Also, let's stop to help folks on the way".

It seems utterly illogical, like they would obviously reach the lighthouses before you...Wouldn't it make more sense to use telepathy or something to communicate to people near the lighthouses to stop Saturos and Menardi?

Also for TLA...Why the fuck dont Felix, Alex, and Karst/Agatio work together? I dont understand where the conflict comes in, seems like they all want the exact same thing and yet are enemies because...?

>>387023841
Fpbp

>>387033334
To your first point, I always figured the delay came from Isaac and co. Had the mars star. So if all else failed, they'd have to meet in Prox at some point. (Which Alex and the rest counted on, feeling superior to Isaac and the others).
IMO.

>>387028009
>play GSLA first
>see the password option
>look it up on the library computers next time I go
>restart because I wasn't very far and use a printed code
>fast forward to now have GS1 on Wii U use the pass on that on my LA cart

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>>387027286
I remember spending like 2 hours replaying it and trying to beat it

>>387033334

Alex has his own agenda of gaining immortality and uses everyone around him to accomplish this.

Karst turbospergs when she finds out Isaac killed her sister and decides to be a bitch to Felix because he knows Isaac by proxy and therefore cannot be trusted. Agatio probably just tags along for the ride because he's nailing Karst.

>>387033334
>Why the fuck dont Felix, Alex, and Karst/Agatio work together?

Alex was trying to play everyone in the end. Even the people who work with him. Although Agatio does realize it. He doesn't care. Karst was on a revenge boner too.

>>387023809
I wish I could be excited for games again like I used to be waiting for TLA.

>>387026809

I honestly think Golden Sun 1 & 2 are extremely unique in their presentation. They're not perfect, but they are unique.

The only other series that captures that feeling for me is Xenoblade Chronicles. It's possibly due to the world building and exploration.

Nothing on 3DS compares. 3DS's library in general fails to reach any sort of pinnacle. The DS's library (which you can play on 3DS) beats it in every way. The DS has some great JRPGs like Radiant Historia and Infinite Space, but I wouldn't say they're like Golden Sun.

>>387033902
And they never explained how the fuck he escaped the ending of TLA. I need to know all about the holes in the story but I doubt there will ever be a fourth game.

>>387029990
Yeah man people were dying for an RPG. I mean they had to wait a whole two months. It was the dark ages.

>>387027483
War flashback... rising...

>>387034392
I know. But I accept the fact we'll never get another game anon. Short of some miracle.

>>387023809
It'll always have a special place in my heart. part of me wishes there was more, but what we got was one great adventure, and sometimes, you'll just have to let it rest.

>>387034818
I like to consider dark dawn some terrible fan fiction and that it didn't truly happen, the series ended at The Lost Age and that's that

>>387034979
Understandable.

>>387030653
the villains of the first game were actually doing the right thing, they just didn't care about any of the colletoral damage they caused with it and were jerks in general. Then victims of that collatoral damage assume that said villains are actually doing the evil thing and set out to stop them. The twist is that the villains were doing the right thing despite behaving like villains.

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>>387023809
>duology

Ur wrong. Ur horribly wrong

>>387023809
It hit that sweet spot where games stopped looking like garbage, but assets weren't so expensive to produce that they could keep the flexibility and content.
Now games spend their budget on 3D characters and "graphics".

>>387034323
I completely agree with you, anon.

>>387024114
What really? aside from being tedious it's not too much brain power.
OR you were just a dumb kid.

>>387029303
1. Sveta
2. Sveta
3. Sveta
4. Sveta
5. Stella

I hope we get a GS game on the Switch.

>>387037738
You forgot Karis!

>>387023809
It was so great finally going to Lemuria in GS2 after being hyped the shit out of it in GS1

>>387024114
I mean it's not really hard, it's just really really long, and a bit of a maze on top of that.
Best rock, Aqua Rock was pretty neat too, other two were a bit underwhelming.

>>387033334
>time is an issue, let's stop for sidequests!

Mars star, gameplay and story segregation. Complaining about sidequests during an urgent mission is like complaining about a jrpg having turn-based combat.

>telepathy that nobody in your party has to try to convince a bunch of normies to stop a pair of nuke-slinging musclewizards and a blue haired plot device

That'll go over well.

>why don't the abducted and abused voice of reason, a memelord fop, and a double-ended flaming hatedildo work together

Christ man do you even listen to yourself?

>>387026887
Well, Matthew did.
I wonder how Isaac would react when his son brings home a furry as his girlfriend.

>>387035219
Well they did talk and plead with Vale's leaders before resorting to nearly destroying a whole village, as well as the people of Prox putting in a good word for them, I'd like to think that Saturos and Menardi weren't really as bad as the game made them out to be. Of course, that's kinda hard when they resort to defying authorities, destruction and kidnapping.

>>387040227
>nakama and queen of morgal

WELL DONE SON

Yes and I wish we'd get a fourth, but I sort of think we never will.

GS TLA is still my favourite game of all time. I know that there's better games, but Golden Sun will always have a special place in my heart.

>>387027331
>Being this plebian

>>387038315
Not good enough as a Mia replacement. Just made me miss Mia more.

Golden sun switch when?

>>387039018
I liked Gaia because it had a cool boss.
Magma was kind of annoying, but the music was rad.

>>387028041
It did though.

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>>387023949
Elders of Prox > Saturos > Alex > Isaac > Elders of Vale > A Dick in my Ass > The Wise One
>mfw Isaac just lets the dumb gay rock go at the end

>>387041013
Green hair is more of a turn-on than blue for me. Karis is more spunky than Mia, she may actually get on top.

>>387039115
>blue haired plot device.
Haha, thanks for making me smile, anon.

>>387041108
>ayy you killed your parents
>nvm it was just a prank bro

fuck that idiotic rock

>>387041236
Seriously. What the fuck was the Wise One's problem? He was fine to let Prox get swallowed by the Great Falls. What "unforgivable sin" did the people of Prox commit, anyway? Was he fine just letting all of Weyard get fucked up?

>>387040774
They weren't but they were desperate, which is what the game really showed.

What does the first game have over TLA in your opinion, anons?

>>387041236
>Apparently, having the strength to kill your parents equates to being responsible for unleashing and maintaining the proper use of a potential world destroying magic source.
Wise One seems like a cool dude.

>>387041108
I always wanted the Wise One to end up being a boss in the third game.
But then DD happened.

>>387026842
She was the best fighter in the party by all means

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GBA era was the golden era of JRPGs

>>387041705
Colosso

Anyone else think Saturos and Menardi could have survived?

>>387041705
Colosso and Isaac being the MC I guess because he's cool. Outside of that not much specifically really, but considering TLA's status in the series and story it makes sense. I'm not saying the first is bad by any means, it's just the beginning and TLA really felt like a continuation in all respects.

>>387041648
>Was he fine just letting all of Weyard get fucked up?
I think he got made by the people who sealed Alchemy and thus his only objective was keeping it sealed? Like, he wouldn't even think about the possibility of the world ending. All that matters is Alchemy staying sealed because that is his one purpose.

Does make his title of 'Wise One' pretty dumb tho. Singleminded One, more like.

>>387041705
This track https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyIOgjniohA

>>387041960

Nope. Dead.

>>387041929
>>387041970
Colosso was really fun.

>>387042043
Why though?
Their psynergy could have saved them or something.

>>387042028
>Like, he wouldn't even think about the possibility of the world ending.
He knew the world was ending but he had a super distrust of people. In his mind, a decaying world would live longer than a world where people are running around with Alchemy.

>>387041705
I like its art more and that the story seemed a lot more personal. There were also more optional things than in TLA, such as the entire Lunpa section that you could just straight-up skip, or the dungeon in Vault to get the Venus djinn there.
I love Lost Age, but it didn't feel as fleshed out as the small world of GS1.

>remember GS1 and GS2 like I played them yesterday
>almost cant remember shit about GS3
Sad

>>387042028
I don't think they ever go into his origins. And it was more like he was testing the group to see whether or not they were strong enough to deal with whatever consequences unleashing Alchemy would bring.
He was also smart enough to realize Alex's plan and cuck him out getting the full power of the Golden Sun.

>>387041037
At least the originals on VC pls ninty...pls

>>387042148
Nah son they got rekt even after going all dragon mode which probably fucked them up
It just happened that they fell off dramatically upon falling unconscious/dying

>>387042346
You'd think falling into the Lighthouse would've triggered their dragon mode, not just saying HAHA MARS IS CONNECTED TO VENUS WE GET POWER
>meanwhile Issac and Garet don't hulk out

>>387042346
Not to mention the whole earthquake and the lighthouse splitting apart.

>>387042346
Mars revived Isaac's father though, why didn't Venus revive them?

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>Was hyped beyond belief for TLA as a wee lad
>mfw it fucking delivered on literally everything

Has there ever been a sequel that just fucking nailed the "Everything you loved about the first game but now bigger and better" as well as TLA?

>>387042148

The Fusion Dragon was their ultimate technique. It was everything they had and they had nothing left after it. On top of that, between the two games, we have actually never seen anyone instantly recover from the dragon transformation. It's imply that Karst and Agatio died when they were forced to transform and the Doom Dragon group need the power from all the lighthouses being lit to revive.

>>387041705
To be quite honest, not a lot, but it starts the franchise and shows you what the GBA is capable of. It shows off the battle system, the puzzle solving, the dialogue and the God-tier music.

It set the table, entree and the first course and Golden Sun The Lost Age is the 2nd course and the best dessert possible.
You know what you're expecting and it delivers and then some

>>387041960
They're definitely dead. You can make a case for Karst and Agatio though.

>>387042583
Holy shit Anon, I just realised you're right.

The only game I can remember giving me a similar feeling is Pokemon Gold.

>>387042451
I thought that had to do with them being within the proximity of the Golden Sun's imminent creation. If the Wise One didn't hold Garet back they probably wouldn't have been revived.

>>387042408
>meanwhile Issac and Garet don't hulk out
They did though. Isaac generates energy and both get mana restored when the beacon is lit. It's also partially why they were able to fight the Fusion Dragon storywise.

>>387041903
Not really hard when you have a cheat mode with no drastic downsides.

What happened in this scene after you defeat the last boss on TLA?

>GARET: Stop it! Let go of my wrist!
>ISAAC: Garet, get a grip! No one's touching you!

I never figured out the reason of this, maybe just a bad translation?

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>>387023809
>tfw playing through it now and having a decent enough time
no idea how I've mever heard/tried these games out before, the puzzles are great.

>>387043690
The golden sun was beginning to form and Kraden told everyone to dip. The wise one held Garet back to prevent them from leaving right away, long enough so that the energy of the golden sun being released could revive their parents.

>>387043690

The only explanations I could ever find were:
1. Mistranslation for Garet still being injured from Jupiter lighthouse
2. The Wise One holding the group back so that the parents could bath in the Mars light (Parents consisted of 2 Venus Adepts and one Mars adept going by hair color).

Am i the only one who gets Golden Sun vibes with this song?

https://youtu.be/myjd1MnZx5Y

I remember thinking that Golden Sun looked really good at the time, but now I realize that it only looked good at the time as far as GBA games went.

I really hate how so many JRPGs have just been shoehorned into handheld consoles. It would be nice if they were developed for playing on an actual good screen without the hardware limitations.

Serious question, are any of you fans and didn't play it as kids?

I played it about three years ago and found it insufferable. I have never played such a mediocre game. It didn't even have the "so shit it's fun" benefit, everything was just so absolutely plain. Characters were flat, battle system was dull even with dijins, the dungeons were boring, and the music was typical jrpg stuff. The one truly shit aspect was the endless text. I don't mind being wordy if you have spmething interesting to say but the plot of golden sun is so simple that instead of just embracing it they almost pretend it's something amazing.

>>387045020
>>387044970

Holy shit it all makes sense now. Deep lore.

>>387042328
Get luma. I live the life you speak of with rom hacks too.

>>387042583
You're right. It's the pinnacle of that. The only one in my mind that comes close is Halo 2.

>>387026842
Sveta a cute

>>387027483
>slightly fuck up transfer code from my original game
>It gives me 8 copies of the meteora sword from the start somehow
>But not the djinn so i'm fucked for iris anyway

>>387033334
>they have a lighthouse star, literally could sit down and never worry about it
If anything it doesn't make sense that they pursued them at all.

>>387042751
I have similar feelings about gold. Probably helps that I was 10.

>>387049101
>light all the lighthouses
>come back super-powered from that and their journey and tear them and the village apart
Just leaving the stars out in the wild would be pretty dangerous. Also they wanted to save Kraden, Felix, Jenna and later Sheba.

>>387049101
They were also trying to get Jenna and Kraden back.
Regardless, even if they didn't pursue, the elements would've been thrown out of balance because Mars was never lit, and the world would've died off faster than if they just let alchemy stayed sealed.

So, who was Karis' mother?

>>387045504

Why was the music so damn good? I never see anyone praise the music from Golden Sun

>>387050095
Probably some random mook. The only ones who got together from the original party were Isaac and Jenna, and Felix and Sheeba aren't mentioned so we don't know about them.
The only other adepts who both parents we know about are Amiti, Eoleo and Himi.

>>387027483
That game was ahead of its time.

Its savegame was superior to mass effect 1 to 2 and then 3 where you just lost your items, stats and coins

>>387049992
I felt like Jena was pretty cool with felix already... But I suppose the first party wouldn't have known that.

Who would ever want Kraden's useless ass back tho.

>>387051254
Either Felix or the other two explained the overall situation with her and Kraden since she was pretty gung-ho about it when they left the drifting landmass.
I imagine Isaac and his party were probably shocked to hear that Jenna was helping Felix light the lighthouses, especially considering Felix told them that he was doing it out of his own free will and now suddenly his sister is freely involved too.

I still want to fight alex.

S E Q U E L
W
H
E
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>discovering Crossbone Isle way earlier than you were supposed to by tasking the right combination of people to row during the ferry trip to Tolbi
That felt like one of those "Mew in the truck" bullshit rumors but the fact that it actually was true was insane

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>>387024114
>go through the game until I need Reveal
>go through Air's Rock
>finally get through it
>mfw reading through a strategy guide later and finding out I missed Moloch in there

>>387051917
Me too.
He needs like 3 phases or something.
Let him do some crazy shit too.
Like revive Saturos, Menardi and possibly Karst and Agatio (if they actually died).
Make them fuse into a 4 headed dragon (because they need to keep doing things like that).

>>387052267
You mean Flora?
I always forget about it.

>>387052082
When Camelot can get out of making Mario Sports games

>>387024114
>Always go to Gondowan to get Piers and the boat first before even touching Osenia
Fuck the desert, fuck Air's Rock, fuck the boat town and the jewish mayor. I put that stuff off as long as I can.

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>>387051035
>the fucking pirate kid that you know about for an hour in the second game is a playable character in the third game
>but you only see two of the eight playable characters from the second game at all

>>387054164
Well, we at least know about most of them.
Jenna, Ivan and I think Mia are chilling in New Vale
Piers is fucking around on his boat gathering his harem
Felix fucked off and no one has heard from him since, although he's probably training/traveling with Takeru.
I think the only one that wasn't mentioned was Sheeba.

>>387054164
Everyone knew Eoleo was gonna be a party member the moment we found out it was about their descendants. Hell, one of the issues was that it didn't feature Eoleo enough.

>>387042276
I believe in DD you find out he a was Homunculus created by the people who sealed Alchemy away.

>>387042803
Yeah, it's the same reason why everyone at the Mars Lighthouse after it was lit only aged like 10 years in the 30 years that followed

>>387055772
Oh man that's really cool.

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>>387023809
Got a used GBA SP with Megaman BN3 Blue and Golden Sun TLA. And some crappy LotR game.
Played the shit out of both MMBN3 and TLA, they were amazing games.
Traded the LotR game to our cousin for his dead battery copy of GS1 and played through it in one sitting without saving at all.
Great JRPGs, I'm glad they still harbor a following to this day.
TLA was better though, such a huge world and so much stuff to do, plus I read a lot so having a text heavy story was just my speed.

>>387046291
I played them last years and I enjoyed them a lot.
>Characters were flat
Can't really argue against that.
>battle system was dull even with dijins
The battle system was as dull as you wanted it to be.
>and the music was typical jrpg stuff.
How is that a problem? Sticking to the standard doesn't mean it can't be good, you don't have to make free prog jazz rock every time you know.

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>>387023841
I'm with you. It definitely was far from perfect but it was still ___fun___

>>387025865
This. So much this.
As soon as I got Isaac back, Felix's troupe was sidelined permanently.
Didn't help that I power leveled to fight with a friend who had the game.... was so fucking overlevelled.

>>387025865
>implying
Jenna and Piers were better than Garet and Mia.

>>387056451
>some crappy LotR game
Motherfucker you best not be talking about the Two Towers or Return of the King games based off of the movies, those were legit solid games.

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Truly the best girl.

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>>387023809
loved it.

thanks Aaron for telling me to play it and buy it. what a feel.

>>387057348
It does seem that way.

https://www.hentai-foundry.com/pictures/user/Sparrow/130480/GSG---Penitent-Mia

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>>387056867
That's a shame, Felix's crew is better. Felix himself, especially.

>>387057257
It was Return of the King.
Terrible controls and I'm not a huge fan of LotR regardless, so it was an easy trade.

Playing this game was such a heavenly experience.

Good memories of raining nights

>>387056867
I actually like all 8 characters equally

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I love how long GS threads tend to last.

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>get the 3 prongs to fight poseidon
Such a bullshit way to prolong gameplay.

>>387058028
what happens if you try to beat him without it? does he have unlimited hp or you cant damage him at all or?

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>tfw they will never finish the story of DD

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6HU9UAUOv0

OISAC! OISAC! WAKE UP!

>>387058221
He has a shield that you need to break with the trident iirc.

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>>387058239
I just want to actually get a chance to kick Alex's ass.

Is that so wrong?

>>387023809
Not really.

I DO remember the Golden Sun Trilogy, however, and how bad_ each game was.

>>387057348
Please do not sexualize the woman whose last class is literally Saint

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>>387059572
All Saints are sluts.

>>387057348
>>387059572
Actually, I was mistaken, her last class is Angel
So you really can't sexualize her now

>>387023809
I just finished playing through GS1, and started GS2. I'm confused at how much I wound up liking GS1. Like, if I step back and look at any individual component of the game, I could criticize it and say some other game did it better (besides the vast majority of music and visuals), but as a whole it was just such a pleasant experience. While I was still playing, I thought it was a somewhat generic but enjoyable jrpg, but even right after beating the game, I've grown really fond of it.

One thing I for sure didn't like though was how silly some of the ending sequence at Venus Lighthouse felt. Like, you beat up Saturos and Menardi, and then all four of you just stand there instead of taking the elemental stars from Saturos. Nobody thought to do that? Then he just chucks the star in. And also before that, when they tell you to give them the shaman rod and your party's like "Yup, seems legit, take this important plot device item on your completely vague terms, I trust that the main antagonists will not backstab us" and you can say "no" as Isaac but Ivan just gives it to them anyway for nothing. It wasn't even a good trick. I get that they were concerned about securing Sheba but it makes me feel like I'm controlling a group of idiots.

>>387025865

Isaac or Felix, either one.
Jenna
Sheba
Mia

I hate it not being half male/half female but whatevs.

For archetypes, however:

Isaac = Felix
Ivan > Jenna
Piers > Garet
Mia > Sheba, but barely

>>387026842
>>387041903
>>387043208
What the hell were they thinking? Sveta is so stupidly overpowered, I know she's supposed to be the game's main waifu and you're supposed to want her in your party but that's definitely overkill.

>>387060557
Beast mode and the djinn gimmick behind it was fine in concept. The problem was that she was so strong in beast mode that you could wipe fights before time ran out so it didn't really matter.

>>387052303
>Make them fuse into a 4 headed dragon
no, make Saturos, Menardi, Karst, and Agatio fuse into a 4 headed dragon while Alex either rides on top of them or fuses on top of the dragon. He always feels as though he's superior, so it fits.

also, make this fight specifically allow 8 party members at once because EVERYONE wants this asshole dead.

>>387040774
if i remember correctly, no body liked people from their "nation"? so they werent treated right, and their birthplace being at the border of the abyss (literally) made sure they had to do it quick and whatever means necessary

>>387060716
Oh, yeah, I didn't mean to make it sound like he fuses with them.
I mean, he could, but I don't think he'd be a dragon anyway.
You have some good ideas, anon.

>>387041970
the thing is, it isnt really a "continuation"
the game was supposed to be really big, you were supposed to get to the light house (forgot which one, the last one in 1st game) then take over to the second team with alex, but since gba games had a small memory size, the game had to be split in 2

>>387061112
That literally is a continuation of the story. I guess I could have also said it felt like a proper advancement, as everyone's already said it took everything from the first game and made everything better.
>forgetting Venus Lighthouse with that incredible soundtrack
If there's one big flaw these games had, it's that music always started from the beginning again after fights.

>>387060245
I thought Jenna was the Mia archtype, because healer.

>We'll never know what the game would have been like on the N64.
Kinda sad in a way.

>>387061506
I thought it was more of a "caster that could spec into raw damage as well" since her and Ivan can both wield some really good short swords, although I think Jenna does it better.

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>>387023841

>>387061506

The way I understood it was weapon types.

Mia and Sheba can equip maces.
Ivan and Jenna can equip short swords.
Garet and Piers can equip everything but staffs and ankhs.
Isaac and Felix were the same because let's just have them be literally the same exact thing because that's fun.

>>387045504
>>387050743
dq9 and GS 1 & 2, are of my favorite jrpg games, they really have a way to make you immerse into the story like i've never seen in other games
the music is also good in both but i gotta praise dq more since, even tho the theme and battle music is basically the same, it stays with you and doesnt bore you, GS was good but could never listen properly to the good ones since battles ended up really early (some exceptions)

>>387061686
At least we would have had an extra RPG

>>387062072
Initial sea battle theme is amazing too

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So, any chances of this series ever being brought back? I know Camelot is stuck with the Mario sports games, but what if they gave it to a different development team? Or maybe they could just let Camelot take a break from Mario sports. I mean, how many Mario golf games do we really need?

>>387062794
I think they should bring it back.
Nintendo needs more rpgs.
And put Isaac in Smash, fuck.
Put some effort in marketing these games.

>>387062170
i still piss myself from remembering that the battle theme is called "are you a loser?"

>>387062794
>shining force
>tfw the official statement for the Shining timeline is still hosted on their site in a long forgotten corner
>tfw SF is relegated to action RPG games in only arcades now

>>387062985
Good music makes me happy
Still mad we never got Rocket Slime 3 though

>>387063220
i cant count how many times i've been mad from them not bringing all those good games to the west, or bringing them way too late and then wondering where the fanbase went

>>387063489
That seems to be a common thing with them, they never change.

>>387028041
Link cable is better. All of your gear comes over with the correct person with the link cable

Post your favourite tracks from the series. I'll start
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yig6n6LjSU4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdeFRqwvaVc

>>387042220
>There were also more optional things than in TLA, such as the entire Lunpa section that you could just straight-up skip, or the dungeon in Vault to get the Venus djinn there.

What? TLA had tons of optional things.

>treasure island
>yampi desert cave
>the trading sequence/sea of time islet cave
>yallam/taopo swamp
>garoh
>madra catacombs
>gambomba catacombs
>izumo ruins
>anemos inner sanctum

Official Lighthouse themes ranking

1. Venus
2. Jupiter
3. Mars
4. Mercury

>>387023809
I remember the crazy shipping wars this game got.

>>387065523
Perfect.

>>387029303
Confirmed IsaacXLLenna and ended years of wars.

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Who did the Mercury Lighthouse before Kolima?

Also no one here will reach the level of autism of how I played the game.

interesting how much praise this game gets here considering how it was received when it came out. I remember the general consensus was that it was simplified babbys first rpg with a bad story. I loved it at the time since i was a 10 year old nintendo fanboy

>>387065523
Mars
Venus
Jupiter
Mercury
But if Mercury had a proper theme it'd be higher than Jupiter.
Fuck Jupiter Lighthouse.

>>387065898
>Who did the Mercury Lighthouse before Kolima?
I always do.
It's better that way.

>Also no one here will reach the level of autism of how I played the game.
Explain

>>387065898
Always, like how I get Piers before doing Air's Rock.

>>387066217
>like how I get Piers before doing Air's Rock.

I've never done that, maybe I will next time.

>>387065898
I was a retarded kid, didn't get the Ply mechanic for over two weeks, so I was stuck in Merc lighthouse and the path to Bilbin and to Kolima. So I grinded polar bears and Lizard men til level 35 before I managed to ply the godess of the fountain or whatever it was.
Makes me sad to think how stupid I was back then.
But it did burn the game into my retina and dreams like only pokemon gen 2 did.

>>387065898
in every playthrough besides my first, yes. as >>387066083 pointed out, it is the best way to do it because there's no backtracking to get hermes(?) water

you also get mia in the party and having all four adepts is just so much easier. like in >>387066217
also, fun fact. was anyone else aware that equipping the trident gives a small mercury resistance boost?

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>>387066083
Because NPCs always face at an angle and not straight forward, I have to talk with them while Issac or Felix are diagonal to the NPC so they look like they are talking face to face, I then immediately mind read them. If I failed to line them up or they moved before I did the mind read, I would soft reset. I would do this with every NPC in the game.


But wait! That's not all.
When you first enter Kolima village and Trent tries to turn you into a tree, I refused go forward until his glamor hit Issac, Garet, Ivan and Mia directly while they had their shields up and were on the ground. Since Trent's glamor was completely random in how it dropped, it took me 2 days of reseting before it happened.

>>387066502
>also, fun fact. was anyone else aware that equipping the trident gives a small mercury resistance boost?

Yeah but I always put it on Piers for the Poseidon battle

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>>387067112

I've only played the first one. On one hand, it had too much dialog and I couldn't beat the final boss because the game let you avoid fighting/grinding too much. On the other hand, the graphics and music were nice. Should I bother playing the second game?

>>387068185
Might as well since it's literally two parts of one game.
You should probably try to go back and clear Fusion Dragon and do any optional quests for those transfer bonuses.

>>387065898
Put your autism to good use and tell me if there's any IvanxMia /ss/ art.

>>387067112
so euhm...how are you functioning in everyday normal life? Not too many issues I hope?

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>>387057348

Mia a cute, do we know who she ended up with in DD?

Why is there so little GS porn

>>387023809
This game pretty much killed story for me in games. Gameplay > story

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>>387065982
I liked it as a kid too, but later I realized that the writing is completely awful. There's a lot of bloated dialogue to button mash through.

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what's your favorite shipping?

felix x karst

>>387069175
Nope but it's probably some random dude. Her kids are shit though. Her son is boring and useless and her daughter's a slut.

>>387068941
I don't, but I'm declared to smart by the government to be able to collect SS disability even though I can't hold a job.

I've just given up and spend my days lamenting how 4chan has gone to shit and try to find the few little bright points through the sea of failure and misery. My laziness and procrastination keeps me from killing myself.

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I always liked how GS Psynergy gave you so many fun tools to fuck around with in the field - Honestly surprised that more JRPGs don't straight up copy it. One of my favorite things about the series is that towns often have something in them outside of what you'd expect; Most JRPG towns work as your designated Inn/Armory/Plot NPC stop and you can fuck off as soon as you're done, but in GS it pays off to take it a bit slower and look around; there's always a hidden passageway behind a bush, a puddle to freeze in order to make a staircase to a tresure chest, or a Djinn visible on top of a building that tickles your curiousity.

Fuck, they even bothered writing two sets of dialogue for all NPCs in the game just so you can mind read them and hear them thinking about how much they wanna nail the neighbors daughter - Fucking details man.

>>387042220
>Such as the entire Lunpa section that you could just straight-up skip
Yeah, I regularly tried going back there through different parts, so probably just me being retarded but how the FUCK was I supposed to get back there with the shadow ability? I just finished that game a while ago and by the time I got it it seemed like maybe that was a post-game thing, but then I got hit with a cliffhanger and a "you can't play the game if you save the complete game".
Was there a bridge or something?

>>387069907
Is it childhood friend status if you were kidnapped at 8 and grew up in a completely different area/environment for 10ish years and possibly befriending your kidnapper's little sister?

>>387041705
Colosso was cool, but TLA had a flying dragon boat and you could stand on a precipice under the waterfall at the edge of the world. TLA wins.

>>387069537
The 'edited' version is completely sanitized and guts any characterization. Also having them reemphasize major plot points is good so if in case you have a brain fart, you won't miss it. I'll take walls of text of the original thank you very much.

>>387070083
Honestly, Golden Sun is more of a puzzle game than an RPG. Solving puzzles grants you more Djinn which is a far better way to increase your stats/abilities than leveling up.

>>387070885
I liked the text heaviness, since I read a lot of books as a kid and didn't notice anything out of the ordinary by seeing a lot of text in a story.

>>387070083

>One of my favorite things about the series is that towns often have something in them outside of what you'd expect; Most JRPG towns work as your designated Inn/Armory/Plot NPC stop and you can fuck off as soon as you're done, but in GS it pays off to take it a bit slower and look around; there's always a hidden passageway behind a bush, a puddle to freeze in order to make a staircase to a tresure chest, or a Djinn visible on top of a building that tickles your curiousity.

It's not the same, but I got a lot of that feeling from what I've played of CrossCode.

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>>387062794
Honestly hard to say at this point. Mario Sports games have probably been good to Camelot but fuck me even they must be getting tired of them by now. I was hoping that after they shat out both a Mario Tennis and Golf game on the 3DS that they'd get cracking on GS again.

Anyway, as far as traditional JRPGs go, GS isn't the most unknown brand there is, and it's not exactly a niche that Nintendo is overflowing with - It's more a matter of making a GS game that will probably sell allright versus making a Mario sports game that is guaranteed to do well, so you know - not impossible.

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>>387048018
Very cute

>>387067112
Shit dude, and I thought I was bad. All I did was save before a character leveled up and I'd keep reloading until I got perfect stat boosts. Even that was too much for me though, and I just took normal levelups after hitting level 25 or so. Too bad the game was nearly over at that point.

>>387071150
Is that game out of early access yet?

>>387042239
I do, I'm still mad about Ryu Kou, he single handily ruined the whole game for me.

>>387072331
What sucked about Golden Sun was the fixed RNG. So you had to go through hoops to mess with it.

You know what I really hate about Dark Dawn? No bonuses for having either of the GBA games in the second slot. I'm not even talking about transferring anything. Dawn of Sorrow and Dual Strike both gave you bonuses for having their predecessors in the GBA slot.

>>387073539
It had its perks though, like how you could follow the same steps to get the same result every time. I don't care if it'd be considered cheating, but I followed steps I found online to guarantee getting the Kikuichimonji to drop. It saved the trouble of grinding for it.

>>387073993
>tfw using it to get riot gloves and extra sources of mythril

A 99% chance to unleash Meggido is insane. A 94% chance of Legend/Vengeance ain't bad either.

>>387072521
Don't think so. It was pushed back to Q1 2018 last I checked, which is a shame but better than cutting stuff.

It's early access done well, though - it felt totally like a complete game with everything in place and polished, just one that stops abruptly. I played it through the first dungeon about a year ago, and its design plus seeing that the whole perk tree I'd been working through up to that point was just for one mode out of five impressed me to the extent that I stopped playing right then and decided I wanted to see it all ready for the full release rather than following it piecemeal.

>>387073539
It was great for the rare weapon drops, though. Getting them felt like a little puzzle on how to orchestrate your party to attack in the right order and to finish them with the right attack, rather than just "grind forever now". They felt like neat bonus treasures you could pick up as a reward for a little thought and thoroughness, rather than a painful grind. One of my clearest memories of TLA, and something I always do when I replay, is getting a bunch of artifact staves that are really good for that point in the game off a demon enemy in the Gabomba Statue.

>you will never know how the story ends for our friends Isaac and Garet

no reason to live

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>>387073882

>tfw you've saved your GS carts in the hopes of needing them someday for a new GS

>>387075331

What are some games where I can transfer my save file? It's the tightest fucking shit

>>387073882
I still can't believe they fucked up DD so badly.
They must have lost a lot of important people during the time between it and TLA.

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"It's the original cast's children!" sequels are always mistakes, especially when they're just clones of their parents. If the stars align and there's somehow another continuation, I hope they just go for new, unrelated protagonists.

Actually, now that I think about it, was Himi going to be the sequel's main character if DD hadn't been such a disappointment? I always put her near-total silence down to the game being rushed to ship when the heard about the 3DS, but looking back it was a lot like how Isaac was in TLA - not the protagonist now so he's technically allowed to speak, but kept bland and quiet anyway so it's not too much of a shift.

>>387041705
I think Golden Sun is one of the few instances where the sequel improves on the game before it in every way imaginable I can't really think of anything at the top of my head I guess I could say it somewhat better pacing due to the map being more compressed and all seeing as it only takes place on one continent as opposed to just the whole world.

>>387076891
The Shining series did it well, although part of it is reversed.
Mephisto was the child of Darksol and Mishaela
Half the cast of Shining Force II was the children of the cast of Shining Force.
Another protag was the child of Kain, from the first SF.

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I still believe that this is why Felix fucked off to parts unknown.

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>>387077389
I'm pretty sure it was just that Vale's age of consent was too high.

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>go searching for Golden Sun art
>50% of it is characters with gigantic fat rolls the size of a fucking snorlax

Why the fuck did Golden Sun draw in so many fetishists? Between the fat art, the bondage art, the "my first hentai drawing" art, and the DC-comic-western-style art, it's like Japan forgot this series existed and all the projectors came in instead.

>>387076891
What REALLY killed Dark Dawn was the point of no returns.

When I heard about it I went 'fuck it' and looked up guides to make sure i didn't miss any items of Dijins.

>>387051113
The game was designed as one, mass effect 2 wasn't first began production after 1 was done.

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>>387077684

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>>387077684
Same reasons as Sonic, minus the furry.
The largest portions of the audience were kids and early teens players, and as such they grew attached to them in an autistic way that ended up producing fanfiction, weird art, and degeneracy. The story was also involved and emphasized a relationship between the characters with the text, and thus further encouraged such practices. Another thing is that it was somewhat popular to boot, meaning that they could find others who would partake in such material as well, especially during that fateful early 2000's era of autistic fanbases forming themselves within the domain of an internet that was just beginning to grow into what we know today.
Also despite the subject matter of that pic, it is somewhat well drawn, indicating that the artist most likely had practiced from a young age or had been commissioned to make it.

>>387077684
Where do you even go to find stuff for GS?

>>387077903
DD had so many flaws it's hard to pin down its failure on any one of them in particular. At its core, it wasn't a terrible game, I think, but there were just so many problems, from the change from excellently-produced sprites and stylish particle effects to janky DS 3D, to how so many puzzles were just "do the thing the sign says and the door opens". Fundamentally, I think the issue was that Golden Sun didn't get popular because of any particular easily-ported mechanic or gimmick, it was popular because it was a pretty normal JRPG, but extremely well-made and polished, and that's a lot harder to replicate.

Also, one of the versions, I think US, got rid of the "let out a howl!" text from artifact unleashes. That's just indefensible.

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Golden Sun was my experience into fanfiction
It only escalated over time

>>387075462
I just played SMT DDS and that has an option to transfer your save to the sequel but its really minor stuff like a few select items, money adn a hard mode unlock will transfer over. I think pokemon black and white also had the same feature with white and black 2.

>>387078523
Yes, I tried to pick the one that looked drawn the best. That particular image I don't really take issue with as a result.

I don't plan to infect the thread with the fat roll ones. People know what I'm talking about when I mention them anyways.

The world in this game always felt really big and when playing them for the first time it was an amazing feeling, esp when you see the full map in LA.

>>387077684
Combo of it being vastly more popular in the west than the lukewarm reception in Japan, existing right around the time of the weird ms paint online "art" communities/fanfic sites, a cast that encouraged "shipping," and being one of the most popular story focused JRPGs that wasn't Final Fantasy at the time.
You can still find that in most JRPGs that become decently popular around that time in the west.

>>387078837
DeviantArt or SankakuComplex's image area.

>>387079141
True, since it's right around the time Tales of Symphonia came out too, and that fucking exploded with fanfiction. Not to mention Kingdom Hearts.

>>387079141
So wait, this game wasn't popular in Japan? I thought shit like this sold well over there wtf

>>387079045
Yeah, it's one of the best drawn ones in terms of art quality for the Golden Sun tags on several sites, especially given the horrors that pop up otherwise. I do know what you mean though, it's one of those series that you google a character and find vile inflation, vomit, diaper eating art. I've also noticed this for several other popular GBA franchises.

>>387023809
Does anyone have a good Rom of this game? Im looking for some good time Nintendo games on the GBA

>>387079241
>Kingdom Hearts
It burns. Do not remind me of the shit that has produced.
>>387079330
I didn't say it was unpopular, but it was lukewarm. Sold alright but never produced the size or impact of the western fanbase. Do remember there were plenty of games there that never got ported to the west or were only ported years later, that took some spotlight from it.

>>387079330
Part of it was that it was nearly a launch title for the GBA, and in the west we got it early, while other titles took much longer to actually come over. So it had the yard to itself for a while. Combine that with the art style and soundtrack being somewhat comparable to SNES rpgs at the time, and you had a recipe for first time RPG players to get really into it in the west. Whereas in Japan, much of it was old hat and not really seen as particularly new.

>>387030901
First time I've heard Aqua Rock's theme in years. It's a lot nicer than I remember.

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>>387023809
>3rd GS is the black sheep of the series
>every problem DD has can be applied to the first 2
Is nostalgia THAT strong?

>>387030000

nope there is no ambiguity in the password character set

>>387079698
the sad thing about KH is that it would of been all well and good if they just kept it simple but nomura just makes shit up as he goes along and makes things worse each time. hopefully 3 will finally put the series to rest.

>>387080045
>4 different points of no return

nah

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Don't mind me just crashing this boat with no survivors

>>387080045
Tell me more about the points of no return in the first two games.

>>387080749
Hopefully.
Although the deviantart keyblades still make me laugh.

>>387065898
When I was a kid, I didn't realize I could get through the barricade the first time and ended up there by accident. I tried to Move the box, but I guess I was a pixel too far away or something.

I then compounded that by saving on the aerie before the boss fight and spent about a day trying to beat Saturos with a ridiculously underleveled party and no way to leave.

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Sharing these for people to enjoy - someone went and reverse engineered a bunch of the Golden Sun songs onto the device that they were originally composed on before they were crunched down to fit onto the GBA.

And they sound fucking amazing.

Page One (Menu Theme)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqpJLT4I5_E

The Elemental Stars
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhL0QCFX78E

Vale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1K9yah3WsEo

Lunpa Fortress
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjnCs4bx28k

The Royal Palace
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0sY0v1_kuw

Crossbone Isle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGtZqEfN4Co

Venus Lighthouse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXx0IWcNw_s

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Tolbi and everything in it were great
Using your party's super natural powers to cheat in the Colosseum
Fighting gladiators for rewards
Playing in the Lucky Medal Fountain

Nothing in DD was as memorable as this town alone

>>387080972
You're a big squid

>>387081415
That is some good shit.

>>387081415
beautiful

>>387081530
for you ;)

>>387081415
I love this
Vale's theme is so relaxing

>>387080979
there are none.

>>387080957
>>387080979
>points of whogivesafuck

>banal dialogue that never ends
>brain dead puzzles
>easy combat
And so on.

The only thing that changed between the 3 Golden Suns is the age of the player.

>>387081415
It's amazing what these sound like without the bitty screeching from compression. I want the full soundtrack like this now.

>>387081415
Stuff like this is what makes me glad that these games still have an active fanbase.
Good stuff.

>>387081892
Points of return are a pretty big deal when there's a ton of them and almost no indication that they're coming up.
There's one right at the start of the fucking game when you get out of the first cave dungeon. At the fucking start of the game! It's possible to miss shit in that cave such as a Djinn with no indication that you won't be able to go back until after the story event that sends you outside of the cave.

>>387081892

I'll take "things nobody is complaining about in DD" for $200.

>>387082086
So you're just lying now?

>>387082042
>Points of return are a pretty big deal when there's a ton of them and almost no indication that they're coming up
Back then I was 15 years old and I 100%'d the game without any walkthrough and knowing about points of no return on my first try. With the exception of extra bosses. If you're actually complaining about points of no return, you're retarded.

>>387023841

As a game it was fine, if a bit disappointing, but also it did everything it could to try and fuck up the overall storyline of the games and the lore of the world.

Fuck that game.

>>387082184
And if you're actually defending the game's staggering amount of points of no return, you're also retarded.

>>387082276
If calling retards retarded is defending, then I guess so.

>>387082137
No. None of those are what people dislike about DD.

>>387082354
Whatever you say, anon

>>387082184
The first time I played I permanently missed a summon and some djinn and it made me quit. I wasn't prepared for points of no return because, you know, they weren't in the first two games. As such, I think it's a reasonable thing to complain about. Good for you that you didn't have any issues with it.

>>387081415
Damn this is nice I hope the whole soundtrack gets done or at least the battle tracks

>>387081415
Holy fucking shit, Page One sounds amazing.
I never listened to the whole menu theme before.

>>387081892
One of the funnest things about Golden Sun was getting new psynergy and finding ways to use it in earlier areas. You could reach Lunpa right after you leave Vale but you couldn't do anything there until you get Mia. Even with Mia you could only get into the town, you still need to finish Colosso to get the cloak ball and actually save Hammet.

>>387082720
wew lad

>it made me quit
what a sperg

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>>387024114
>Don't find out until I'm at Mars Lighthouse from a friend there is a summon in Airs

Also
>copy down the code from the end of GS because no link cable and 2nd GBA
>Lost Age doesn't accept it

Ive been wanting to revisit these games but seeing as Ive already beaten them twice (100% the second time) I have no ideas for runs anyone got any cool ways to play through the game im not looking for a challenge I just want a way to play the game in a new way. Its really to bad that you cant cosumize your characters stats/moves outside of djinns and equipment.

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>>387081415
You deserve another reply for these links, good anon. GS just has music that even when hearing for the first time feels amazing. Wish Garoh was there.
I sincerely wish I could find my GBA.

>>387082983
I took a picture of mine with an old camera my dad used because I was paranoid about losing my transfer save.

>>387082814
Here's your (you)

>>387083057
Play some hacks, maybe?

>>387083767
Does such a thing even exist?

>>387083057
>im not looking for a challenge I just want a way to play the game in a new way.

Characters cannot be in their "default" classes as soon as you find enough Djinn. Change up the Psynergy you have to choose from. It shouldn't make it particularly hard (except maybe a lack of healing spells), just different.

>lost age's first overworld theme was supposed to have drums

Any idea how legit this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Se84t8Bdd8s

vs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juQzyXGDeD8

>>387083841
Yes!
Golden Sun Reloaded is pretty good, in my opinion.

>>387081415
Geez this brought a lot of nostalgia. I freaking loved the main menu theme and I love the sound design of the game in general. Another game should reuse the Djinn system, it was really unique; maybe tone down the strength of summons though.

>>387057348
Good post

loaded up first game for the first time today

got bored as fuck and uninstalled

>>387083841
There's also Fallen Star and Risen Star.
I haven't tried them yet, but I hear they're really difficult.

>>387075462
Not the entire file, but if you want that feeling of having an epic adventure that carries from game to game you could try the Baldur's gate games; you can transfer your character from first to 2nd.

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>>387023809
Holy shit, this game has such an underwhelming amount of porn, this needs to change.

>>387075462
The only things that come close to that any more from what I played is Pokemon, which lets you transfer party members to the next game.

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>>387023809
Remember me?

>>387084710
Agreed. There's so little that we basically end up just making do with the two ones with Issac/Jenna fucking and Felix getting blown by Sheba.

Doesn't help that so much of the western art is fucking ugly.

>>387084710
Give me a good few years to become decent at drawing and I'll do something about it. Or maybe I'll give up in a month just like I did two years ago.

>>387085634
How is it?

>>387086758
People like to shit on it, but it's not really a great deal different from Golden Sun, Godawful random encounter rate-aside. If you like generic '90s JRPGs, it's worth giving a go.

>>387023809
So how many times did it take you guys to get the code to work?

I remember taking like 20 minutes or so to jot it down in a notepad from school, taking forever to get it in, then of course I fucked it up and had to go back and look up and down the lists trying to find where I fucked up...

My hand writing was so bad I fucked myself over... But damn it was worth it! Mah djinns!

But wow I didn't realize how over leveled I had my first game was. My party in the second was around 46 or so when we joined up, and woah, Isaac and crew where in the 60's!

>>387084710
>tfw I can use the images posted above plus the generic DD pics on every single SC/DB
It is weird though. This is pretty common among GBA franchises though, it wasn't really an era that a lot of games flourished in terms of fanart.
Ask in the drawthread I guess, Idk.

>>387025865
I liked Ivan more than Sheba, but other wise Felix's team felt a lot better. I mean Mia's group heal is OP as fuck, but I loved that damn Glacier slash thing, and Jenna's fuck off beam attacks.

>>387060245
Ivan and Sheba are almost identical in spells and stats, wtf are you talking about?

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Check out this balance/difficulty ROMhack for Golden Sun and The Lost Age. Makes the game's combat much more tactical and interesting.

http://forum.goldensunhacking.net/index.php?PHPSESSID=7qqsnsluig0psif96onn65dea5&topic=2779

>>387087463
Fume and Beam were the best fire psyenergy.

I'm still mad how they decided to put a fucking cliffhanger on the 3rd game and now they won't give us a sequel.

>>387087667
A lot of these changes seem interesting. Especially the tweak to summons that prevent summon rushing. That was always a super-cheesy way of beating bosses.

>>387087563

They're a bit different. Sheba's the mace user of Felix's party, Mia's the mace user of Isaac's. Ivan with short swords, Jenna with short swords.

It's like how Piers and Garet are very similar outside of their element.

And IIRC, Sheba and Mia have similar non same type classes, and Jenna and IVan do as well. I could be wrong on this one.

>>387023809
>fill the first two games to the brim with worldbuilding, including references to several ancient civilizations, a huge world filled with towns and cities and hints at the politics between them
>build a memorable cast of characters
>mention in interviews that the duology's story is really just the setup for the true story
>after a long hiatus, finally make a sequel
>make no reference to the worldbuilding of the prequels, and instead have entirely new cities appear within one generation, introduce ancient civilizations that were never mentioned before with ambiguous connections at best to the established lore, have the villains be a technologically advanced race that came from absolutely nowhere, also there are furries now
>only two members of the original cast return
>storyline starts out appearing to be related to side effects of the last game's ending, but then immediately gets diverted into a wild goose chase going after a recurring villain and two new ones which ends with their motivations, goals, and alignments completely up in the air, the future incredibly uncertain, and then a cliffhanger reminding players of the original abandoned plot, setting up for a sequel that explains just what the fuck is going on
>no sign the series will ever continue
What a blunder Dark Dawn was. It could've been an evolution of the series but was instead a sloppy, directionless retread of TLA with a confusing, out-of-place story.
Can it even be saved at this point?

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