Is Etrian Odyssey actually good or do people only play it

Yes.

le millenom girl

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le millenom girl

>>387017668
only the first three are good, the rest is loli pandering

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>>387017668
The fanbase is sort of split. Half play for the gameplay and half play for the lolis.

Which is why half the fanbase is hype for EO V because it's supposed to be fucking great, and the other half is whining about how EO V has much less lolis.

You don't even need to have lolis in your party, just check out the alternative for the medic.

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It's good, but it's not for everyone

it's very sexy.

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>>387018268
The male medic in 4 is pretty hot.

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>>387017668
I play it 60% for the mapping. The rest is for the music, the battle system, lore, artstyle, etc.
It is very rare to find a good crawler that lets you draw your own maps nowadays. I mean I can go back to old games like Wizardry and Shining in the Darkness, but this is the bulk of what I get in the modern day.

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>>387017668
It's actually good, the lolis are icing. It does so much right that other RPGs do wrong.

Also le millenom girl

I'm playing through EOU on Classic at the moment, is the story actually worth playing or not?

>>387017668
are the 3ds games emulable at stable fps yet? i've only seen videos on youtube

>>387017668
Well considering those cute girls are only a single, static portrait that doesn't move at all during the whole game and are just blank slates that don't say anything(outside of untold), what do you think

>>387018981
There is an exclusive dungeon locked behind it, so completionfag are required to play it
Unfortunately, I'm a completionfag, so I did
The story is okay, but it really misses the point of the Classic story

>>387017668
Both

>>387018981
Some of the Gladsheim bosses are fun and it trivialises the 5 day mission in the 2nd stratum but it's not that big of a deal. Most of the time it's just the base game with a forced vanilla party.

>>387019159
Isn't there a class or two locked behind the story too?

>>387018981
U2's story is worth playing, and this is coming from someone who dropped EOU's story on the 2nd stratum and has a seething hatred for story mode.

U1's is fucking awful, it ruins all the plot twists, the party is boring to use and are all unlikeable besides the drunk redhead.

>>387019250
Yeah, Highlander and Gunner
But the only portrait you can use for them is MC Highlander and Ricky respectively, and the classes themselves aren't very interesting in Untold 1 anyways

I played IV and greatly enjoyed it, pretty much spot on difficulty-wise for me. I had I think an 80% girl party, I did go the chocolate dancer and the dude Landsknect.

I did hear that in V classes are bound to different races? How's that work for the average loli enthusiast? How did the difficulty end up?

>>387019273
>it ruins all the plot twists

Out of context they don't make sense, really doesn't ruin it if no one had touched EO yet, and if you have, why are you mad at that? There's a different twist to it this time

>party is boring to use
*action boosts you*

It's the gameplay I really enjoy about it, particularly the map making. The visual style obviously helps, but not specifically for the cute girls. My parties are always a balance of two and three with the genders one way or another and I like to try to go for a variety of apparent ages.

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>yfw entering the shop for the first time and seeing Shilleka

>>387020097
Eh, she's alright I guess

>>387019708
>U2's Gunner gets two actions as a passive and a force boost
>U1's Gunner has to spend a turn buffing up to get that
wew

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>>387019012

>>387017668
Play either III or IV and find out.

>>387020169
But if you put 10 points into it you can get 2-3 actions and run out of TP in 6 turns! ;-;

>>387017668
The Millennium Girl.

>>387020461
If you put 10 points you always get 3 turns, that's why it's effective.

>>387020169
Untold 1's is way stronger since it's guranteed when you use it and you get 3 guaranteed moves at max. before that it's only a change for 3 but you get 2

I'd love the game if I didn't have to draw the maps.
Shit's boring yo

>>387020097
>so this is where the Etrian Odyssey by Atlus begins™

she was a hit and miss character

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>>387020601
AUTOMAPPERS >>>/out/

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>>387020601

>>387020601
Heresy
Seriously though if you don't like classic style crawlers theres plenty of lazy automap ones out there

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>>387017668
>Is Etrian Odyssey actually good or do people only play it for the cute girls?

Both.

>>387020601

You don't have to.

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*blocks your path*

>Untold was my first Etrian
>really enjoy it besides grimoire stone rng
>100% it and even grind primevil grimoire stone abilities
>Want to talk about it and get into the series
>Everyone calls me an idiot for liking EOU and that I'm casual trash for playing story mode even though I played bith story and classic on expert
>Never play another EO ever again
Should I give it another go or is there a good chance I'll end up liking the wrong one and not be able to talk about it like with FF fags.

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>>387021163

You're so insecure. Just play and enjoy whatever you want. I played the series since the DS games and Untold is good, I think EOU2 is better though.

>>387021163
Why the fuck do you care what other people think? You clearly enjoyed the game, you're going to let someone on Reddit tell you that you're wrong? /eog/ likes EOU1 so you surely didn't post about it on 4chan.

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>Muspelheim dungeon in EOMD
>get to final boss floor
>keeps summoning DOEs
>lose and all my items and weapons are gone

>>387021163
>>387021163
You experienced it exactly how I experienced it, save for dropping the series. It's worth picking up again 100%, U2 is even better and 4 is stellar. Just starting 3 now. Raquna best Canadian

>>387021163
I get so much flak for saying I playing on Standard. It's such a niche series I think they just aren't happy with newcomers.

EOU2=EO3>EO4>EOU1>EO2>EO1>>>>>power gap>>>shit>>>power gap>>>EOMD

>>387021385
The main reason people sperg at playing on Standard is because until 4 the games only had one difficulty, which was the equivalent of Expert. Playing on difficulties below Expert is seen as not playing the "real" game and cheapening the experience.
Personally I think Standard is fine, it's still hard enough that you have to use strategy without combat having the edge to it that Expert does.

>started playing PQ because EO5 is still months away
>always hear about how easy it is
>currently getting my ass handed to me by a bullshit giant beetle that keeps oneshotting the MC and it gets two turns

Am I missing something here? Don't tell me I got memed on by people that played on easy mode

>>387021163
If I dropped every series I got shit on for liking, not only would I have dropped all my favorite game series but generally would have stopped vidya altogether. Also story mode was fun as hell, the Gladsheim finale was fucking amazing.

>>387021628
put Naoto in your party

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Made in Abyss drpg when

>>387021675
I started P3 side, fuck P4

>>387021628
I chose Hard for my first playthrough and it's been pretty tough. Too bad I'm essentially stuck in the 3rd dungeon now because my cart's borked, I keep getting system error in the middle of gameplay

>>387021301
>>387021313
>>387021369
Thanks. Guess I'm rebuying a 3DS.

>>387021385
It's weird. SMTbros are like that too. I wonder why?

>>387020601
Here's your (you).

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>>387021085
Heard you were talking shit

>>387021628
Naoto, Aigis, the mcs, then any physical attackers, bang the game is fucked. If you're using garbage characters like yukiko or mitsuru that'll bog you down

>>387021761
That's not even the worst one, on floor 30 there's one with 3 of them.

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>>387021697
>8 Stratum

>>387021385
>enemies use skills much less frequently, sometimes not at all
>you get retries
>and you do more damage

You might as well just play final fantasy if you're going to auto attack the entire game

>>387021698
>can't even get past the intro
jesus dude, is this the power of P3fags?

>>387021837
That is Floor 30
Also, did you miss the Evilroots in the back?

>>387021862
>gotta hope my strength bind hits or I'm dead guaranteed

Yeah, I gotta raise that luck skill some more

>>387021698
Wew, if you're this early then just push through, you'll know. Junpei and Aigis are your bread and butter right now, also akihiko. Fuck mitsuru and yukari they're garbage

>>387017668
Both
also I want to give Ricky the Dicky!

>>387021924
>the healers are garbage
I'll admit I've never played PQ (or any Persona game for that matter), but are healers really that disposable?
Pretty weird if true.

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>>387021628
Bind its strength and debuff its attack with Akihiko's tarunda.

>>387021924
>Early game healer with early access to media
>Garbage for the first dungeon
>Using slow ass Junpei, that early in the game, in the first dungeon

>>387017668
Yes.

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>>387017668
I didn't even know it had cute girls in it until after I started playing it. And they're just portraits so it makes little different anyway.

Survivalist 2 is best girl, for your information.

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>>387021746
>Thanks. Guess I'm rebuying a 3DS.

and in case you haven't yet, give EO3 a try on a DS emulator. If it's not to your liking, go ahead and play the other games, but it's a very popular game in the community.

>>387021628
Only Persona fags that played in normal or below say that. On hard or Risky it's your standard EO: pretty unforgiving but as you unlock more skills it'll get easier, complete with skills that can trivalize most encounters, it wouldn't be EO otherwise

>>387022053
You can kill everything save for the beetles with ease by carrying any two out of junpei, akihiko, or shinjiro. Media only helps during the stratum boss and the cards, but the card equips are average at best.

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>>387022153
the problem with it is the dam boat mini game. It is fucking annoying but you have to do it.

can i skip untold 1 and just play 2?

>>387022249
It's still pretty easy on risky even in the start, the only difference is p3 gets it slightly rougher due to no naoto.

>>387022442
Yeah, the games are not connected at all outside of a few references.

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What would her class be?
Is she the type of person who colors in door tiles?

>>387022442

yep

>>387022442
Yes, you can play untold with the classic game though you know

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>>387023413
My definition of "sfw" is significantly more lenient than the mods', but this crosses a line. Jesus christ.

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>>387021697
>Unique relics that have immensely potent properties
>A few people in the Abyss are so bizarrely powerful that people in the world above barely even recognize them as humans, Bondrewd literally being described as "Some horrible thing masquerading as a human" and they aren't necessarily wrong at all
>Ascension is extremely dangerous and returning home can be significantly more deadly than going down
>Floor 6 and on are literally points of no return
>Colossal monsters show up on the second floor and simply get more dangerous every floor lower, as well as the warped topography and insane geography of the landscape
>Main cast are a loli, a bunny, and a shota-robot
It'd take a team bigger than Atlus', but I'm sure it could be godly if the love was put into it.

>>387022565
She's a classless NPC. I'd argue she'd be similar to a Farmer, but even then, her entire role is just being a cartographer who has an encyclopedic knowledge of things she stumbles across. Though she begins her run with a high-SP'd Yggdroid, so she can make it.

>>387022565
Colors them in, draws walls in a box around them, and uses an arrow instead if a door icon

>>387023563
What a fucking cuck.

>>387023413
>potatoes
>lolis

>>387021697
Fuck I need more cute but also suffering
loli+shota+bunny adventures, new chapters when

Post EOV parties

>dude draw your own maps lol
Fucking dropped. It's not even 3D.

>>387024980

If you can find your way around fine then you don't have to draw anything, the idea is for the touch screen to cater for old school video game players who drew and labeled maps with pen and paper. That is its own charm, I suppose it's incomprehensible in a time where all games now provide you a map by the press of a button.

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>>387024980

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>>387025610

>>387021628
Having Naoto and P3MC in the back row will destroy all random encounters with Mahama and Mamudo.

Having Chie and Aigis in the front row allows you to wreck bosses super hard with Aigis' defence buff and Chie's crit buff.

>>387023413
The lolifags don't seem to like potatoes.

Too THICC for their liking.

>>387021697
I was actually wondering why there was a sudden surge in popularity for MiA, didn't realise it got an anime adaptation. How is it so far?

Anyone else have trouble naming their units? For some reason I can't just name them any generic name, I have to name them after characters from other JRPGs.

>>387026390
Always go for some sort of theme for your guild, makes naming everything much easier. What I like to do is pick a type of weapon for each group of 5. So you end up with Sword Group with names like Excalibur and Shield Group with names like Aegis.

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>>387018268
>>387018462

did Atlus just take the doctor from Trauma Team and put him into EO?

when is a new Trauma Center game coming, Atlus ;-;

>>387026390
I just name them whatever random name comes to my head. Sometimes I throw in something strange like "Catfish" or "Keen Eye" for flavour.

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>>387027032
You know there's straight up Trauma Center characters in the old games right?

>>387021085
*head binds mage*
*kills yellow goo*
*kills mage*
*kills lion*
psssh...nhothin personnel...monsters...

>>387027214

I've actually never played any of the EO games and I just kinda stumbled into this thread

>>387027214
>all the cameos removed in the Untold games
For what reason

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>>387027250
well now you know. also they all got killed off in the remaes

>>387027369

Atlus letting their fans know that Trauma Center is dead

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>>387027369
And then this.

>>387027405
>Center is dead
We can revive it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-xbLswGuhs

what is the best EO game for a newcomer to the series? IV?

>>387027497

the intensifying of the music when you increased your combos during orthopedics made my dick hard

>>387027497
>Rock Solid!

>>387027560

rock solid*

>>387027558
Yes. It has a good demo and a forgiving difficulty curve.

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>>387027497

The music in Trauma Team was actually so good.

I'm really sad the game underperformed so hard.

>>387027405
>>387027497
Why did it die. Trauma Team wasn't even bad.

>>387027912
It was a third party title on the wii.

Team didn't even get a european release

>>387023731
sauce please

how do i kill FOEs in the last part of 4th stratum with ease? I'm at the bird boss and everytime I have to fight one of them it takes me a lot of mana and effort if they don't manage to kill me


also will I be able to access later to those unaccesible parts in the 3rd stratum, specially in the boss map?

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>>387028180
You're not meant to kill the FOEs.
Here's a rough drawing of the room from memory, you want to go to this little alcove here which is 2x1. Iwaoropenelep will block it completely when it attacks you and they won't be able to get to you

>>387028487
>from memory
you made it almost perfect anon
and thanks for the tip, I dropped the game for a little because I felt I was severely underleveled, I'll try again later
<3

I'm playing EOU2 classic on expert difficulty and I find it pretty unbalanced, as in the mob fights are good and challenging while the bosses are unbearable dps races where you just run out of tp about halfway through the fight. Currently I'm stuck at the fire demon boss that wipes you if you don't kill his adds in a couple of turns, except they're bloated with hp and my only chance is the hypervenom strat to connect, but it's an rng fest.
Is it supposed to be this bad? I played the original EO and EOIV before and i never had such issues.

>>387029695
TP regen food is your friend.
I agree though, EOU2's boss and FOE health is silly.

>>387029695
>only played EO and EOIV
>complains about difficulty
lol

>>387021851
Nayrt, but Perfect example of what they meant. They try to tell you they like the game and you just tell them they're having fun the wrong way.

>>387029885
I don't mind difficulty at all, but damage sponges are the wrong kind of difficulty and the best way to make higher difficulty settings unfun.

>>387030246
that's a cool opinion

>>387030063
You're having fun the wrong way. Stop having fun.

>>387017668
1-2 very basic drpg without any neat features, but were good because dt wasn't translated yet back then
3/4/5 actually great games to play
u and u2 are unplayble garbage

>>387027558
4 is baby mode compared to the rest of the series, but a solid starting place. Personally, I suggest 3 over it for the sheer fact that going backwards in this series is agonizing.

>>387030394
>u and u2 are unplayble garbage
Now there's a hot opinion. Only real complaints I can see about them are Story Mode, Grimoires, and inflated HP in U2.

>>387030513
Don't forget the part where u2 didn't fixed anything about original eo2 and it already was worst game in the series
It bobmed worldwide for very good reason, I'm surprised how /v/ is the only place where people unironically call it best game in the series

>>387030326

>playing a series known for its difficulty on an easier setting

Might as well be wrong.

>>387030573
Please do tell, what exactly was wrong with the original and how exactly are they not fixed in a game with new class balance, redone maps, new bosses and FOEs, and a new dungeon

>>387030573
It fixed the stupid level cap raising mechanic.

>>387030573
>U2 didn't fix anything
Ah, it's bait, nevermind.

>>387017668
You have to be really thirsty to play a game because it has five jpegs of cute girls in it.

I play it for the killer soundtrack and the dungeon crawling.

>>387030857
>killer soundtrack
EO3 has this shit locked down, the only misstep is the lack of a 6th stratum theme.

What the fuck is B20F on the original EO. I killed the boss, but not only does the birdfaggot have the gall to come back to life, every other FoE has somehow decided that it'd be fun to disappear from view, but not my map.

Do I have to fight three of the damned things in a row to beat it.

>>387023563
>being a rulecuck
Cmon, son.

>>387031012
You have to kill every FOE in the room first. It's one of the things they changed in Untold.

>>387030513
I honestly liked story mode in 2 and with foods grimoires were the easiest shit.
Bosses could have used way less health, half of it basically, they are only balanced for story mode where Fafnir can rape everything when he gets going.

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>>387031276
Guess it's time to Rest my members up and respec them to not be pieces of shit then.

Fucking FoEs. I thought the beasts the forest girl talked about was going to be with the boss or some shit.

>>387017668
I am absolutely elated that there are so many Etrian Odyssey threads nowadays. I even drew pic related for a "Draw something and have someone guess it" thread for Etrian Odyssey 2.

Personally, I don't care about the Lolis. I didn't even realize until Etrian Odyssey 3 that the fanbase was so vehemently in love with lolis. I sort of split my team in half between 2 guys and 2 girls (and 1 girlboy) anyway. I play the series SOLELY for the gameplay, and the very light but very strong storyline.

>>387031294
>I LOVE GENERIC SUPERSNOWFLAKE SELFINSERTS AND FORCED ROMANCE IN DRPG
Great opinion, senpai
Now please fuck off and stop ruining genre

>>387017668
I heard this was the only good Atlus dungeon crawler, what's the best one to start with on DS, any tips on party comp or do you guys just experiment on what works best

>>387030660
Not him (didn't play the original) but the maps in 2U were fucking bland as shit with mostly just a FOE "puzzle" followed by a short cut repeated over and over again. Followed up with a "Puzzle boss" who would wipe your team unless you knew his gimmick or just powered through him using OP shit like level 20 skills, troubadours, or ecstasy. And if you didn't then you'd just basically cycle through a loop of the boss's scripted attack while chipping away and its fucking huge HP. Which required another stupid puzzle to bring to a reasonable level. I actually feel like I was cheated and should've played the original first, because I suspect the maps aren't as faithful to the original's as EOU's were. I'd like to get around to playing the original sometime but after the good games like EOV and Q2 come out first. Not in a hurry to rush back to a buggy mess and world of MISS.

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>>387031443
Don't you hate it when you say "pic related" and then forget to link a pic?

>>387017668

i personaly find the games very frustating, it has lot of cheap hits on the player (in the second game there is one boss that literaly instant kill your party on the second turn of the fight unless you know the trick behind it) it doesn't explain some important stuff that should be explained properly (like there are two skills in the game that "deal more damage the less HP you have" but one of them is trash and the other is incredibly OP) and class balance is completly shit

>>387031489
>were fucking bland as shit with mostly just a FOE "puzzle" followed by a short cut repeated over and over again.
Blame IV then, that's the biggest offender where over half the maps are running away from foes.

>>387031443
>tfw you're hyped about PQ2 and you're not even a Persona fan because of that gameplay and music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGPQMTONUcw

>>387031572
lol wut?
Is it a bait?
Did you even played 4?
The only time you needed to run away fro, them was one stage on the first labyrinth
And once in fifth one
Also all maps in 4 were properly handcrafter instead of garbage we got in the u2
not even him

>>387029695
This will continue for the whole game! Every boss came down to learning the exact pattern and timing Force Break and Boost perfectly. Remember that the summons are linked to HP. I used a couple of boosts and one break to help me through the first pair, then breaks to deal with the last round. And then Scylla...

If it's any consolation, the miniboss of B3 is both super hype and a fun, short, tactical fight that kills you without a 10 minute warmup

>>387031572
Incorrect. That shit started in Etrian Odyssey 3.

The ENTIRETY of Stratum 3 and 4 were built entirely around avoiding red FOES, even if instant death-specific teams and just clear past them and clear the entire strata in like 5 fucking minutes.

But I love all Etrian Odysseys. IMO the worst maps in the series were in 4. Simply because there were just weren't enough of them. The game had a total of I THINK 18 floors, right? That's fucking garbage.

>>387031489
I did really hate how the first 3 bosses of U2 were "Instakill unless you do this puzzle correctly" shitshows instead of an actual show of how well you understand the game's less obvious mechanics.

>>387031468
Story mode is optional, and as far as gameplay is concerned, U2 did a lot more right than it did wrong. Other than 3, I consider it the strongest title.

>>387031708
You mean every map that isn't a maze isn't just circling around FOEs (those incredibly awful caves with 2-3 FOEs that are just annoying, i.e. the one with the moths) and even in mazes it isn't just that over and over again?
Stuff like golden lair is just circling around turtles over and over again the first time you go through them and once you cool it it's even worse.

>>387031572
Yeah I do see a lot of that in IV too although it had cool non-FOE gimmicks like the wrap around maps, the water / ice floors, miasma, which all come together in a fucking fantastic sixth stratum. Meanwhile 2U has the most laughably easy 6th stratum in the series, where FOEs either run away from you or don't exist until you walk into their line of sight. There's not even any damn blood on the walls. And of course the fights are too focused on being gimmicks so you have dumb shit like a worm that casts bind all when it dies (oh no) or... an enemy who attacks its allies. The horror! The other games all had a 6th stratum that was a totally different world than what came before. Then in 2U it's just another bland forest like the rest of the game.

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>>387031654
>they still won't make it a proper EO game by having Himukai art and Koshiro OST


What a shame.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTxJGE8PMEY

>>387031894
Aesthetically, Claret Hollows is a pretty strong floor.

Mechanically, the Forbidden Woods are also good.

But Nothing in Etrian Odyssey 1, 2, or 4 has ANYTHING on the Stratum 6 of Etrian Odyssey 3. The be all end-all of dungeon crawling experiences.

Crazy ass enemies, horribly overpowered minibosses, tight as fuck music, more floors than previous stratae, and a final boss that will fuck your ass and not even call you the next day.

I compare every Stratum 6 to EO3's Stratum 6 and I'm always disappointed.

What's the best of the three DS titles? How does it compare to something like Strange Journey (besides the mapping system)?

>>387032029
Don't forget

radar-less areas which truly test your map skills

I'm sad they haven't done that ever again

>>387031894
>Then in 2U it's just another bland forest like the rest of the game.
Should you be talking about bland when defending a game which goes forest>slightly darker forest>caves for its first three maps? Literally the only decent looking ones in IV were the libraries, otherwise the maps were both boring as shit and extremely braindead while being annoying to cruise through.

>>387032070
It goes in literally reverse order as far as quality is concerned.

3>2>1 and you won't get very many people disagreeing with this statement either. The real discussion comes from all of the remakes +4 for the DS and where they fall into order.

>>387032076
I'm still mad that 4 was casual as fuck. Casual and Etrian Odyssey does not belong. It's a game about getting fucked so hard that you "WANT" to take it nice and easy and slowly map shit out and get comfortable with your surroundings.

>>387032070
3, it still hasn't been remade and it's probably the best EO. Still has some incredibly dumb shit, but it's solid all around.
A remake would look so good too.

>>387021697
>Final Malestorm
Is this some feminist stunt?

>>387031750
>The ENTIRETY of Stratum 3 and 4 were built entirely around avoiding red FOES
I hate molten caves, so much, so fucking much, I like the game but I get to it and always think of dropping it on replays. Between the worms being the hardest for in the stratum, the neon orange throughout and the feelings of shit and needing to buy soles to go through I just hate it.

>>387032146
>3>2>1 and you won't get very many people disagreeing with this statement either.
Wrong
It always was 3>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>1>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>2
newfriend
>It's a game about getting fucked so hard that you "WANT" to take it nice and easy and slowly map shit out and get comfortable with your surroundings.
>eo
Another bait
No one ever considered them hard compared to real ds drpg like dark spire

>>387032272
Most Stratum 3's are amazing, but even though EO3 is my favorite, its stratum 3 is complete and total dogshit, which is fucking stupid, because Stratum 2 and 4 are fucking amazing.

>>387032318
>Dark Spire
>Hard
How hard it is to just stack defense to the point of taking 0 damage from every enemy in the entire game, INCLUDING the final boss, and literally never changing your strategy for the whole game?

Tabletop simulators like that are only hard in their ability to be learned. Once you LEARN IT, there is no skill required in execution. Perform the undeniably best actions, and you will win 100% of the time.

Also how dare you say 2 was shit, fuck you, I will fuck you up, bitch.

>>387032321
>Most Stratum 3's are amazing
>eo
>eo3
>eo4
>eou
>eou2
Funny, because the only time we had decent 3 stratum was worst game in the series, aka 2

>>387032318
There's hard because enemies actually have decent AI and or patterns and then there's archiac hard which is stupid and not fun. Fuck Dark Spire, if I want to play an old crpg from the 80s then I'll fucking that instead

>>387032321
>super comfy bottom of the sea after a forest where you get raped by starfish
>super comfy ancient temple where you get raped by merflok
>a literal pile of lava and shit in between

>>387032383
>>387032318
Wow, I guess this series is finally popular enough to have dedicated bait shitposters. I'm impressed.

2 was easily one of the strongest entries in the series even BEFORE it was remade. Revamped and borderline mastered Boost system, fun as fuck bosses, great conditional drops, amazing stratae, and godly music. Fuck off m80

>>387032382
>there is no skill required in execution
Funny, because all eo games were so broken you didn't even need to learn it
Just not be braindead and spam one skill to kill all not foe enemies
And some foe
And 3 skills for bosses

>>387032475
>2 was easily one of the strongest entries in the series
So this is the power of newfriends and series becoming popular
wow

>>387032491
Better than 0 skills like Dark Spire. Don't chuck stones from a glass house, I played all the dungeon crawlers on the DS. Strange Journey, Etrian Odyssey 1-2-3, and Dark Spire. You can't fool me.

Dark Spire, on top of being difficult to learn, is also angrily boring compared to Etrian Odyssey. It completely lacks flair and substance.

>>387032536
Bitch I fucking played this game before DS emulation (as far as I knew back in 2000-whatever) was a thing. I'm literally 25 now and I've been playing this game series for what feels like half of my life.

Etrian Odyssey 2 is amazing and I can't believe I have to defend it in a fucking Etrian Odyssey thread.

YOU ARE UPSETTING ME

>>387032549
>is also angrily boring compared to Etrian Odyssey. It completely lacks flair and substance
Funny, because you could say the same about first to eo games
Series was mediocre until 3, this is fact

>>387032598
I'm figuratively 25 and your taste in dungeon crawlers is garbage

>>387032029
EO3's 6th stratum always felt like it was refining the ideas of EO1's. it even has the same initials (CH) and just has better execution of its ideas. The blind rooms with pits are much better than the dark rooms with pits, the spike pits are placed in a meaningful way and the FOEs aren't shat out randomly, but in certain areas. The vampire trees come out from walls too but not as irritatingly like the depth dancers. So it's a tad more toothless compared to its big brother, so the claret hollows has its merit. The 4th and 5th stratum in EO3 do feel kind of like homages or nods to their equivalents in EO1, so I always found it strange people praise 3 and shit on 1. (or EOU, which mostly kept the EO1 map themes as-is.)

>>387032103
The EOIV stratums at least have distinguishing features. There's a whole load of bears and trees that need to be cut down in the first whereas the second has the wrap-around gimmick which works with the FOEs as well. And the cave has the most interesting dynamic in the entire game; it's got two entrances and basically is two labyrinths, frozen and unfrozen which offset the somewhat bland aesthetic. Meanwhile ancient forest has... trapdoors. And auburn forest has NO distinguishing features, even the big room with salamander is just a rehash of the Wyvern's nest from EOU. Then you get to the frozen grounds which has... sliding puzzles. Pretty tame mechanically compared to golden lair.

>>387032598
>92 kid
>having shit taste
>lies about being in the famdom back then
Not even surprised

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>>387032642
I disagree.
>>387032638
I will admit that Etrian Odyssey 1 felt like an experiment and was wholly unpolished, but 2 was fucking great and I will hit you if you keep insulting it.

>>387032697
If you're even older than me then you HAVE to realize that we are the minority on 4chan nowadays. Can't we just enjoy each others' presence as people who have played all of the Etrian Odysseys? Can you even ACTUALLY call Etrian Odyssey 2 bad, instead of just the "least good"?

>>387032383
EO1 / EOU has a godlike third stratum. The spookiness, the hidden exit with miniboss, Ren + T getting increasingly unsettling, the arrival of a plot, crabs up out of the water, huge underground lake where you're trying to judge the floats to unlock new islands. A Manta Ray. Fucking awesome.

>>387032968
Third stratum is awful anon. That is not a fun mechanic.
Its not as bad as the worst third stratum in all the games though:
EO3s third stratum. Best game in the series for sure but, that stratum is such utter garbage it always turns me off playing for a week when I get to it.

>>387021085
Jesus what the fuck is up with your naming scheme? I just name my characters after friends and girls I've dated and-
Oh, I see why you name your characters that way. Carry on.

>>387033039
Not my photo, ask >>387021761

>>387033039
Not him, but I just name my characters after custom characters made in other games, like Diablo, Warcraft, Runescape, shit like that. Then just stick with it.

>>387030513
>inflated HP
that is the least of the boss revamps in U2, 50% of bosses are the same exact thing now. They have lazy "glowing eye" or "summon minion" phase 2s now. In fact, every newly added boss pulled this.

>>387032382
>Perform the undeniably best actions, and you will win 100% of the time.
Anon, that's every game ever.

>>387033256
I fucking hate summon minion phases, literally kill them as fast as you can or get ready for deadly combo attack of doom.

>>387033256
the Esbet guild is by far the worst revamp they did. On Classic Expert if you don't Beast/Protector cheese it the fight will either end in 2 turns or you dying, just a horrible dice roll if you win or lose

>>387033036
Totally agree on EO3 being annoying there, but otherwise don't see how you reckon fun. Start off with corridor based FOE juggling in a tight maze which actually leads up to some payoff then have the game open out a bit. Like I said, you open up the lake floors with a bit of guesswork, but it also rewards thorough mapmaking since you can predict which floats lead you onto land you've seen before and mark untaken routes. To me this is like a model of keeping core gameplay lively.

>>387033039
Can't speak for anyone else but since I try to use some imagination to make the party feel more alive, it feels creepy for me to use names of people I know in real life, so I always try to go for uncommon or foreign names. Some people also use a name that shares the first letter with the class' name to make it easy to remember which character is which.

>>387033489
Dude, what? I seriously suffered for a lack of tanking in a CE run, but not then. You setup one of the unfortunately fucking mandatory ailment blockers - grimoires if necessary, carefully split damage between them a bit, then line up your buffs and use the offensive force breaks to rock their faces.

I love the dungeon crawling and party building, the cute art style is a plus

>emulator DRPGS
Help me from touching the save states

>>387033553
This is the whole point, right? I mean we've all seen that EO1 Designer interview. That's what he dungeon events are all about. It's going back to RPG basics.

>Ricky spoils the Lost Shinjuku twist for me
I wonder how I would've reacted otherwise.

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>>387033856
>Playing my fourth run of EOU1
>Finally realise the text mostly being in 2nd person is that it's meant to mimic a DM

>>387033879
I played that one action Blue Dragon game on the DS a while back so I just assumed Ricky was a typical "person on an ancient slumber thanks to futuristic technology" like they had in that game. I started the series with the untold demo but decided to play on Classic mode for my first run and was honestly surprised by the Shinjuku twist. You don't really remember anything about le millenom girl if you go classic.

Anybody that says the play EO for the lolis hasn't actually played the games

>>387035235
or they played on easy mode

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>try to get friend into EO
>he takes about 30 minutes just deciding his team composition
>goes into first labyrinth
>recommend him to rest in the leaves
>drops the game after that

>>387035409
>>he takes about 30 minutes just deciding his team composition
To be fair, this happens every time I begin an EO.

>>387035235
Or they played only first two games, because they didn't had anything else in it

>>387017668
>drawing maps manually using a stylus and a gui reminder of old drawing programs made for kids
>good
they would've won me if they didn't add this shitty mapping system at all and you'd need to use pen and paper, it's faster than this stupid shit

>>387035453
Apart from being the only mapping based handheld DRPG and the whole FOE thing?

I hate people who ask these questions, but where should I start in the series? Prefer 3DS. Music, artstyle, gameplay.

>>387036249
Any game is acceptable, EO4 is the most recommended.

>>387036249
Download the demo of EO4. If you like it you can import your save file into the full game.

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>No EU release date
Guess I am used to importing the games at this point after half of the DS games never came here and the 3DS ones mostly take a year to localise.

Alternatively this will push me justify a pirate.

>>387036249
EO4 no question.

>>387036467
>>387036376
>>387036297
>Start with the game that's the easiest and completely different from the rest of the series

This game needs to be buried. Might as well tell a Dark Souls newcomer to play Ocarina of time to get a feel for the game

>>387035540
The newer games have automap and all you need to do is fine tune your map with icons.

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>>387036586
>being this contrarian

>>387036586
It's not even a bad game. Hell, EO3 is easier because EO3 subclassing is absolutely bonkers.

>>387036747
he's not wrong, it's just praised for being forgiving and for its visuals, a little kid's experience

>>387036586
>>Start with the game that's the easiest
How does this not make sense?

How should I build a Survivalist in 2U? I got Apollon to level 5 so far,
Party is Princess, Protector, War Magus, Gunner, Survavlist if it helps

>>387036819
>it's just praised for being forgiving
All eo games except u2(and u2 is just straight up trash) are very forgiving for the drpg. You could literally level random skills in the first 3 games and still being able to beat them jsut fine if you at least read descriptions after putting poinths
People praise eo4 because it was first in the series to drop completely eo1-2 bullshit with protector/medic in every team, and allowed you to actually beat game if you knew what you are doing. 5 is the same
>>387037054
>How should I build a Survivalist in 2U?
You shouldn't

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>>387017668

It is good series. Very solid dungeon crawlers with deep enough party customization, interesting design and enough content for at least 60 hours or something around.

Untold kinda divided fanbase tho due to "story mode" where you are given pre-made party of people with names, dialogues and class already set, thus cutting like 50% of fun of dungeon crawler game. They have "classic" modes however and work as remakes of NDS games for people who only own 3DS. And adjustable difficulty mode.

>>387036926
Because the series was known for it's punishing difficulty and 4 is barely above your typical JRPG? And it's overrated as fuck. EO4 came out at a really bad time. The 3DS was barely into it's first year of its life and everyone was really pushing the "no games" meme. So 3ds owners were starved for games and that's why bunch of new people picked up on it and it's why you always have so many "EO4 is my favorite" even though non newfags know it was a step down from 3 in almost every way.

>>387037054
Hazy Arrow, Chain Dance and Sagittarius Shot are actually broken.
Double shot is okay.
With a War Magus in the party you'll probably want the paralysis/blind arrows first though.

>>387017668
It is legitimately good, the map drawing gimmick especially. The perception of the game is just ruined by loli fans. You don't even need to have little girls in your party.

>>387037187
>Because the series was known for it's punishing difficulty
>EO
Untolds really killed series by bringing this newfags who just want to fit in, hard

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>>387021450

>EO3=EO1>EO2>EOU1>EOU2>EO4

Fixed for you.

>>387037173
Not them, but Protector/Medic was only ever required if you were fighting Elemental Dragons or the Post-Game Final Boss. There is no intrinsic need to have a healer or a tank in any of the 4 Etrian Odysseys, or the two remakes.

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>>387037375
Keep crying nerd. Untolds are better than the originals. And I played EO the first day it came out, beat it without knowing what the fuck Immunize did because I had limited access to the internet back in 2007.

>>387037404
>>387021450
I'm going to be "that guy" real quick and say both of the remakes (untold) were better than the originals. They just were.

I love Etrian Odyssey 1 to bits, it put me into the series to begin with, but compared to literally any other game in the series, even its direct sequel, it just lacks a lot of very obvious, beneficial mechanics.

3>EOU2>2>EOU1>1>4

>>387037428

And we are supposed to believe that you never got damaged or afficted by status change in EO games or that item healing was perfectly enough for you?

Sorry but lies need to be at least a bit probable. Even EO2 with "nuke or die" approach requires healer in team.

>>387037187
>Because the series was known for it's punishing difficulty
not only is this a comical statement in itself, it's still ridiculous to suggest that newcomers should avoid choosing the accessible option because "it's supposed to be hard"

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>>387037717
>>387037375
Sorry, that's really what people were saying at the time. Here, a bit of proof, unfortunately I can't bring back all the threads from 10 years ago but whatever.

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So what class would you be in reallife if you could?

>>387037567

Didnt first Untold introduced IV's HP bloat or it was U2?

I know that U2 increase party damage output but not enough to justify that absurd HP values. My main problem with IV was how much HP enemy bosses had, first time in series I was ending boss fights after 30-40 turns and frequently ending without TP on healer/mage characters.

>>387037691
I literally
LITERALLY

Beat Etrian Odyssey 1 (original) with a 2 man team consisting of a Landshark and an Alchemist.

I'm not going to say the game is easy, it's not, but knowledge is more than half of the battle in that game. Alchemist in EO1 is capable of using aoe poison which oneshots all non-foes up to stratum 4, and the landshark can just headbind everything to death for the alchemist to do double magic damage to, while pacifying all incoming magic damage.

The major problem was Stratum 5's Muskoids. I was about to break my DS, since EO1's "run away" actions are purely luck based, and not based on speed or level, like literally any other Etrian Odyssey.

To be quite frank, I'm very annoyed that you think I'm lying. I'm not trying to insult you or anything you colossal faggot, I'm just saying that there's no real need for healers or tanks in Etrian Odyssey unless you're fighting post-game bosses.

In EOU1/2 the use of Grimoire almost completely negates the need even in Postgame by giving you the ability to use their abilities without even needing to have the class.

>>387037891
Untold 2 had the ubsurd bloat. Etrian Odyssey 4's bosses had high health but low defenses and resistances, and basically coaxed the players into finding weaknesses, and experimenting with status effects and binds.

My Go-To fun+OP strat in EO4 is basically a full Crowd Control Bind+Status Effect team that has its usefulness all the way up to and including the Yggdrasil Eater.

>>387037891
I think you're thinking of something else. EOIV's bosses don't have very much hp at all. Even the Warped Saviour only has 35k post-chemicals.

>>387038000
>>387037891
The absurd bloat is because of increased party damage. You're hitting numbers that used to be end game damage in the original by the 3rd stratum in Untold 2. And most bosses have those stupid gimmicks you have to do in order halve their health, it's pretty much mandatory and the fights were meant to be beaten that way

>>387038112
Conversely, the only boss that didnt rely on some stupid fucking Gimmick was Harpuia, and was easy as shit because of it.

Then the Behemoth had more gimmicks, and fuck me guiding those missiles made me want to kill myself.

>>387037871
I don't know, I still haven't beaten EOU story mode and I don't know what classes are there since I'm stuck with these retarded assfucks

>>387037892

Most of the players are not minmaxers who already knows the game to the core enough to utilize such very specific parties.I called you lying because nobody grab any dungeon crawler for the first time, dont place healer in party and then play it without problems. I pointed out EO2 just because that specific game is actually build around nuking bosses and FOEs before they can even deal any real damage and thus is viable without a healer IF your party will execute plan flawlessly (more than that, some post-game bosses actually requires that approach because any attempt to play defensively or heal-up will result in party annihilation).

>>387037521
>Newfag uses old as fuck photo that was used with posts about how bad games before 3 and 4 were to shit on 4
Pathetic

>>387038261
Funny that fight is so polarizing. When the game first released people were either saying she was destroying them or that she was a fucking joke. I had no problem in both my story and normal runs, but I can see why that fear might fuck you up.

>>387037892
Challenge runs /= normal experience. Protector is maybe not mandatory outside postgame, but it is disproportionately useful, especially in the early game resource grind bits that cause so many people to surrender.

And EO1 without a medic was a bit nuts. The game even outright told you to pack a medic. Otherwise you're either grinding levels/Medicas or relying on extensive knowledge of the games systems and balance i.e. you have already beaten it.

>>387038026

>21k HP on Sanctum III boss
>"only 35k" HP for Warped Saviour
>not bloat

>Scylla with 23k HP vs 3K in original
>not bloat

Really?

>>387038652
Boiling Lizard starts the fight at half hp if you break the scale like you're supposed to.

EOU2 is not EOIV. It has actual HP bloat and I make no excuses for it.

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>>387038429
I don't get what you're trying saying, but I did play through the series as it released so of course older titles are gonna age like shit. I can show you the rest of my collection if you'd like

>>387037871
Landsnack.

>Weaken niggas
>Link niggas
>Shank niggas

>>387037871
Hound/Rover

>>387038482
I found it annoying because I was running a Princess for anti-ails. Which meant outside of the force boost having to repeatedly spend two turns re buffing in a fight where the big attack move is basically a timer until she hits harder than it's possible to survive. Screwed my turn economy and buffed Link Order damage game just because I didn't have a levelled Barrier grimoire and did it a couple of times with the same result. Guess I should have been running WM and the rest of the cookie cutter stuff

>>387037871
Masurao.
Quad-wielding bunny girl ftw.

>>387037834
This list needs Bowser's Inside Story.

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I play it for the addictive gameplay and awesome class set ups you can achieve, and the cut ass girls and fujo looking boys.

It's a game that attacks me on all senses and I love it.

So playing EO4 as my first EO game right now. When does it get better? When you unlock subclasses? 2nd stratum is pretty boring so far.

>>387039926
Whenever you get subclassing balance is out the window. You might as well no even play the game once Imperial is unlocked if you're already bored, but I guess seeing huge numbers(for that game anyway) can be pretty exciting

>>387039926
Subclasses are at the end of the 1st floor of the 3rd labyrinth. Then you have about 20 levels of balanced and fun gameplay until your power exceeds that of the enemies permanently, barring the postgame dungeon's 3rd floor.

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>scans never

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>>387040079
>>387039986
So why should I even play EO4 if the game isn´t fun at all?

>>387040647
Because those maps aren't going to fill themselves!

Unless you autofill, but that's not the point!

>>387040647
Because it's easy and therefore the best to get started with apparently

>>387040647
If you're not cheesing it deliberately, don't worry about becoming overpowered, but if you're not enjoying it already you probably won't enjoy it later.

>>387037834
>GREAT DS GAMES
>Soma Bringer
Automatically shit. A shame since the list is actually good except for this shit stain.

I'm going through EO2 right now and have one of every class leveled up. What's the best team for the gunner and Warmage in Stratum 3. Should I have characters that can inflict binds and pray that it procs or should I just focus on buffs and debuffs?

>want to play EO4, it being my first EO
>I'm dogshit at team comp, but I try to set up something with well rounded abilities
>Slog through first and second stratum don't understand how people beat these games without grinding
>Finish every quest in every region
>Still have to grind xp off sheep
>Drop the game immediately after getting sub classes because of the grind wall
>Pick it up months later, forget my goal, quest progress, party synergy, dungeon layout, map key
>Start new game
Done thus the times since the game came out. Halp.

>>387017668
I'd say people are more drawn to the first person dungeoneering, music, setting and the touch screen mapping than the girls, though the girls are just an nice bonus.

So I'm having difficulties with EOU2 Scylla. My team is ~37 L/D/W/A/P. Kinda shit composition considering I have a character relying on binds, another on ailments, and no Hexer. So if I would replace 1 character with another, which would should I do?

>>387042338
>>Still have to grind xp off sheep
How? EO4 doesn't make you grind and gives you levels easily. Hell, you can probably reach the level cap or be around it by the 5th stratum boss.

>>387042516
By P I meant Princess, not Protector.

>>387042539
Probably because i don't know how to build for team synergy and therefore have to rely on raw numbers to beat bosses. Trying to beat Hollow Queen under level 45 is hell for me.

>>387042715
>Trying to beat Hollow Queen under level 45 is hell for me.
Holy shit anon. Leg binds and panic. Sniper's Leg Snipe skill can't miss and can inflict leg binds.

>>387042715
>hollow queen
>under level 45
>and the game even gives you a free 6th member if you suck that much
Around level 30 she's already easy enough, just get a runemaster and something to do damage in the front row like a landie.

>>387042516
Try getting a Stigmata grimoire, then abuse Ecstasy nukes on the DH.
I'm pretty worried about your party composition, though. You don't have a protector or beast, so you'll need to get elemental wall grimoires later on.
You have crazy amounts of healing with a War Magus and Sovereign, but your guys might die immediately, without even a chance of being healed.

as an aside, the shortcut for princes/princesses is "so", for sovereign

>>387042859
So, I guess that leads to my follow up question, how do most people run through an EO game? Is it like SMT where you're constantly running through party members based on what's necessary or is it more of "you need to take this party comp or you're just going to come up short"? Or am i retarded for using Fortresses, Nightseekers, and/or Dancers?

>>387042949
I have a Runemaster. Part of the reason i grind to 45 is for Origin Rune.

I have a few questions for the veterans:

I've downloaded the demo for the 2nd game, because I thought I check one out before jumping to Persona Q (or Q2). It is comfy as fuck, but:

Is it one of those jap games where there are cute girls yet no actual romance or off screen at best?

Is there an in game explanation for all the shit I can draw on the map? Like I have no clue what the arrows are for.

In the eshop, VI is priced at 10 euros, while II at 40. Am I missing something? The boxed version is still 40, though.

I think I'm gonna buy it, but should I stick with II if I find it fun or get IV instead because that's better in the long run?

>>387017668
Probably the best modern Japanese dungeon crawler franchise on the market. Unless you looking for fanservice shit then probably something like dungeon travelers 2 or mei-Q is more your thing.

>>387043402
A mixture. Parties are best built around a certain role, eg, dungeon clearing, boss fighting or farming materials and you switch in and out based on what you need at the time.

Respecing tends not to be too difficult later on when the costs are easily made up in a few battles and early on it's easier just to make new characters specific for what you need to do. Arcanists are a little different though, since you've elemental vulnerabilities to consider so it's worth having one of each type and switch them whenever there's a particular dungeon/boss you want to exploit.

>>387043304
Stigmata is a Highlander skill, right? Can you get their grimoires without buying the DLC?
So should I replace the War Magus with one of Protector/Beast? It is a pain in the ass trying to inflict ailments, and the healing is a little bit overkill.

>>387043402
The five people I start with are the five people I end with.
I just allocate skill points as necessary, keeping at least 3 points unspent, in case I desperately need a particular skill.
I only start resting at postgame, when level grinding becomes easier.

>>387043838
You don't need the DLC, just a QR code for a guild with a Stigmata grimoire equipped.
Enjoy.
https://pastebin.com/uTt9sWvf

Yeah, changing WM to a P/B should work.
If you're doing that, then give your DH a Sword, since sword DH is better if you don't have a Hexer or WM.

>>387043482
>Is it one of those jap games where there are cute girls yet no actual romance or off screen at best?
Characters are blank slates. Period.

>Is there an in game explanation for all the shit I can draw on the map? Like I have no clue what the arrows are for.
I don't remember if there's an exact explanation but use them as you see fit and in a way you can easily make out what's on the map.

>In the eshop, VI is priced at 10 euros, while II at 40. Am I missing something? The boxed version is still 40, though.
IV came out long before IIU. The 3DS II is a remake and more recent than IV.

>I think I'm gonna buy it, but should I stick with II if I find it fun or get IV instead because that's better in the long run?
IV and II are very very different. Personally, I'd recommend you get IV first but if you're really enjoying II get it first. And remember that V is releasing in a couple of months.

>>387044168
Thanks anon.
But if I switch from Whip DH to Sword DH, what's the point of Stigmata?

>>387044290
>Characters are blank slates. Period.
Too bad.

>use them as you see fit
So, overall, only the outline of the map will matter for quests? Maybe the way how I color the ground?

>V is releasing in a couple of months
Oh, I see. Thanks for the heads up!

In general, this drawing game play mechanic feels fresh and unique for me, but I sort of fear that the lack of good story will make me disinterested after a while. I guess I'll grind the demo some more and see how it feels.

Thanks, again!

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How long will it take me to 100% U1? (complete all codexes, level cap one of each class, get Grimoire of every skill) What do I need to get in story mode before starting a new game with a different party?

>>387044438
I assumed you were going to change up your party after the Scylla fight.
If you're going to ditch the WM and Whip now, then you should probably go with abusing Chases and Link Order instead of Stigmata + Ecstasy.
At least you'll have an easier time surviving with a Protector with Ice Wall.

>>387044665

You're failing to understand, the map is a map. What you draw on it and put on it is only relevant to you.

>>387044665
Note that the two Untold games (Le Millenom Girl and Fafnir Knight) have stories, but only Fafnir Knight's is competent.

>>387044684
Oh, ok. Gotcha anon.
I should probably respec my Heavy Smash Landsknecht into something else shouldn't I?

>>387044665
>So, overall, only the outline of the map will matter for quests? Maybe the way how I color the ground?
It really doesn't matter. Make the map how you like it and in a easy way to to understand and navigate. Have fun anon.

>>387044737
I see. I thought it's kind of a part of the quests since the very first one asked me to draw it, and the party members also asked how the map drawing goes. So you say if someone has good memory, then it could be done without drawing anything?

>>387044850
Thanks!

>>387044679
>level cap one of each class
with retirement bonuses?

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>>387026349
It's really good even if the previous episode was a bit too slowly-paced. It's currently right before Ozen tells Riko that she's literally a zombie

>>387045007
>So you say if someone has good memory, then it could be done without drawing anything?

Technically yes. But there are sections that 100% you want to mark on the map. Could be some things as simple as an FOE movement path, main one though is maps that warp you.

>>387045026
That too. I want a "perfect" game.

>>387045007
Only the first quest usually requires for you to plot out a map. Then it's mostly optional. You should still be marking places of interest, however, as side quests will often ask you to find a specific thing you might have already found.

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>>387032269
The artist is equal-opportunity, he's both a lolicon and a shotacon

>>387017729
>le millenom girl
le millenom girl

>>387045448

Could you explain the meme?

how much more till eo5?

>>387046554
Go to [s4s]

>>387046578
October 17th

>>387017668
It looks like a pair of testicles bellow her belt

>>387046578
October 17
Please wait warmly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGipCwTA1RI

>>387046720
>1 year and 2 months later

Why does Atlus hate EO?

>>387046830
>Why does Atlus hate Europe.
fixed. Still no release date confirmed here.

Honestly, given all the new Persona dancing/mysterious dungeon/Q games, it's surprisingly they even remembers.

>>387046830
I'm yuro, tell me about Atlus hating you.

>>387046802
>End of Raging Waves
>AGAIN
>Ignoring Their Own Brand of Justice and Hoist the Sword With Pride
Why does Atlus like this song

>>387047063
Because it's a great song and I sure as hell am not going to tell Yuzo Koshiro how to do his job.

>>387046954

Nope, it was confirmed to come at the beginning of November. /vg/ Etrain General says so.

>>387047063

>Hoist the Sword With Pride

I love you anon.

>>387045091

W-what? How is she running around then?

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>>387047347
The relic box that her mom and Ozen put her in doesn't protect things from the curse of the Abyss, but reanimates them after death

I'm just wondering when we're going to get to Cunny Bunny

>>387047347
Thanks, the last I heard was a TBA and I'm not brave enough to subject myself to an etrian general.

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Why does everyone hate 4?

>>387047604
It's not hate, but it lacked both effort in the maps and difficulty in general.

>>387047604
I hate Gudako

>>387047063
EMD's remix of Hoist The Sword was great.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIDTxtyUDfY

>>387046830
>localize a bunch of random shit before your own game
>announce the new SJ remake for localization before the game is even out in Japan, complete with Japanese dub
>EO5 English dub only

I'm surprised they didn't announce EMD2 before EOV like how it happened with EMD1 and EOU2 as another fuck you. These games have just been taking longer and longer to localize for no fucking reason

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I'm playing eo4 (first of the games ive played) and i like it

>>387047861
Who knows?

The franchise is finished soon anyways, so we won't have to put up with it much longer.

>>387047604

Greatly reduced numbers of viable builds, especially in case of subclassing. People in III could discuss for days about various builds and all were viable. In IV, if you try to turtle against certain bosses, you will lose simply because you will run out of time, TP and so on.

For example, against Heavenbringer, I initially was using Fort, sword Land, Seeker, Medic and Runemaster and I couldnt outheal the damage, while my damage output was laughable. When I switched Medic with Arcanist and Seeker with Imperial, I finished the fight MUCH easier simply because my damage output was finally properly high for that fight.

Also, IV had nasty habbig of linking performance with level - you could have hard time with certain FOE, levelup your party ~5 levels more, without even changing the skills and suddenly have cakewalk fight.

IV was not bad game you see but all other EO games are better. Its good for newcomers tho, thanks to casual mode.

>>387017668
Yes!

>>387048643
>couldn't win with linkshark party
I think you were just bad at the game anon

>>387048329

>Implying there wont be Switch Etrian Odyssey just without two screens

Switch have touchscreen you know. And they already released games that are not playable in docking mode.

>>387047972

Good, since each other game is better (except Mystery Dungeon, we dont talk about it here).

>>387049046
I wish the Switch could also work like the gamepad. Then we'd get something going.

>>387048773

I was not using Links. I decided at very start that it would require me to build party around that and wanted more balanced one. It was all around sword skills instead. And some debuffing.

Im better at EO games that allows me to turtle-up. Like III and I. II was still easier for me than IV.

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>>387050713
Why is Princess the most /fa/ Etrian?

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>>387050914
because she's a slut

>>387047604
You can't bring something new to a series mostly played by autists.

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>>387051993
Princess is a pure girl, please delete this lying post

>>387040549
Wow, he finally got on that 4th one? Never thought it was coming out considering how long it's been since the 3rd one.

>>387018462
Is it okay to just grab lolis like that and take them home?
Is that how people do it?

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>main offensive class of EO5 uses Rapiers
>other offensive melee classes use Scythes, Fists, or Katanas
>not a single regular sword in any of the portraits

A-are regular swords not in EO5?

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Left or right, /v/?

>>387043472
you might just be a gigabrainlet then
i just beat the hollow queen for the first time and my party is like 30

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>>387047604
I love EO4.
The music is incredible and the 6th Stratum is my favorite in the series. We really need more horror themed strata, but as it is all we've got is PQ's Evil Spirit Club and EO4's Hall of Darkness. Also it has best pair.

>>387047604
No one hates it
This is the first thread where some retard shitposts about it

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why is party wufan cute but not regular wufan?

>>387052932
The other Arcanists are cuter
Can't retire her without losing her unique portrait

>>387052596
Both at the same time.

>>387020228
https://citra-emu.org/game/etrian-odyssey-iv-legends-of-the-titan/
Apparently it werks.

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>>387017668
both

>>387032418
>>387032321
While I also didn't like Stratum 3, it served its purpose really well because it acted as a prison for that merfolk faggot.

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I fucking love blonds!