Half-life

rofl haha lol

neat

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Wait,my friends

In years past this might have made my heart flutter in excitement.
Now I don't feel anything. There's nothing left in my heart for Valve.

>>387016108
ITS REAL

>>387016108
This can mean only one thing.
Nuclear war is imminent

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>>387016108
All jokes aside, why doesn't Valve want to work on this series anymore?

I get that mentioning the existence of this game will never not be a joke, but what exactly is keeping Valve from just giving it to us? Gabe has avoided it like the plague and there has been absolutely no word on whether or not it's coming out, and I understand they don't really have to say anything about it since it's their franchise to do with as they please, but it's been 10 years so far and all Valve has to show for it is fucking Artifact, which we all know won't be the Hearthstone-Magic:The Gathering-Whatever else there is out there-killer no matter how much money they sink into it.

What I'm basically trying to say is I feel like enough is enough with this entire meme Valve's been riding for so damn long and just come out with an official statement already and just tell us what they plan to do with it.

The questions I'd like answered above all else are: Does it exist? Have you ever even considered making it in the first place? Why are you so hellbent on not saying anything about it? Do you realize that whether the game itself turned out to be shit or gold, the announcement would be legendary and make a mark in videogame history so large no other company could possibly 1-up it? It's been 10 years, you fat fuck, enough is enough, is the game coming out or not and why?

>>387018017
They doesn't know what know i am

>>387018153
You nailed it.

>>387018153
this

>>387018017
Why even bother when you don't need more money and your reputation is at stake.

>>387018017
You can't live up to more than 10 years of hype
It's better to keep it on the stash and use the meme for shit and giggle

>>387018017
Because there's no winning if they talk about it.

If they announce that they're working on it, it's going to be shit. No franchise takes that huge of a break, and comes back without missing a step. So assume it's shit. And we all waited over a decade for the conclusion that wont satisfy anyone.

If they say it's not coming out, then you'll get a bunch of bad press about how Valve abandoned the one thing that put them on the map and made them damn-near synonymous with PC gaming.

The only thing that can do now is never mention it. Because no matter what they say, it wont work to their benefit.

>>387018017
What are you talking about? Half Life 3 is here bro

>>387018017
if I recall correctly Valve has stated that they basically can't live up to the hype and can only stand to lose from releasing it

>>387018017
They put off doing anything with the series for ages and its basically become Duke Nukem Forever 2.0
as in everyone expectations for it has reached the point where it will be physically impossible for Valve to match everyones expectations

>>387018552
))))

>>387016108
>google it
>it's true
HAPPENING

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>>387018017

holy shit it's actually real

Why do you people still do this to me

>>387018836
I liked it

>>387018017
no reason to, why invest resources on it when they can invest 100000x less and have much less risk involved with stuff like dota 2 and tf2?

it's common business practices

>>387016108
>Reveal something as retarded as a card game based off of dota
>One week later reveal HL3
Get me off this ruse cruise. BASED Valve, forgive all my doubts I've ever had for you Gabe

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>>387016108
>this isn't a troll
HOLY FUCK BALLS

>>387018017

They're terrified of putting out an inferior product. There are times when I am thankful to Valve for refusing to release a game they know will be bad. Then you hear about shit like Artifact and realize they're just fucking pussies.

>>387018847
>>387018787
>>387016515
fuck you made me look

>>387016108
There is no way HL3 wont be a huge disappointment.
Gabe knows about that and thats why it never coming out

>>387018017
Valve behaves very differently from other game developers. Staff move to whatever project they want whenever they want and Half Life 3 has built so much hype and anticipation that no one can bear the weight of the collective expectations.
Maybe they're waiting for the hype to die a bit then begin making the game so when it comes out a little less people would even care enough to hate it.

>>387018017
>Why won't valve work on it
It won't live up to hype no matter how good it is
They also make so much money off Dota and tf2 hats so theres no reason

If half life was announced it would get a pin

>>387020084
They should at least release a series or book to wrap up the story. If they did then no one would give a fuck about HL3

>>387018689
The difference is that Valve is still a respected company.
For example, from a normie standpoint, Bethesda can't release a bad game. No matter how bad it is, people will eat that shit up. Valve is in the same position.

>>387020267
People would be fucking livid if instead of a sequel to a game they had to read a book
I'd still read it but I'd be pissed off

why would they even bother? Dota hats alone will net them 20x the profit of a decade worth of work on a product of love and passion. You fucks are still so delusional if you thing they will make non cashgrabs
Portal 2 will be their last game

>>387020217
This desu

>>387018836
Yeah but as shit as valve is at least they've made good games. Fucking gearbox has never made a game that is good.

Why is this even hyped so much
I mean HL 1 and 2 are really good, sure, but to the point where "HL3 when ???" became the most obnoxious meme ever, i don't get it

>>387021210
>They're pretty decent games
>Hl2 promised hl2 episode 1 2 and 3
>2 cliff hangers
>3 just never comes out
I wonder why
Imagine if we never got a halo 3 how pissed the halo fags would be

>>387021278
most likely they were too busy with l4d 1&2 then said fuck it

>>387018017

The episodic release model failed for one thing. Plus HL2 was part of the beginning of "next gen" gaming along with Doom 3. It helped introduce a lot of new technologies to mainstream game development like normal maps, parallax mapping, HDR, bloom, etc. Plus the facial animations and physics were great at the time. HL2 brought something new to the table. It also influenced the cinematic "cutscene but not a cutscene" first person stuff. Nowadays, thanks to Unreal mainly, everyone can have a really slick looking game. Even the shittiest games today look better than those first next gen games. Source is kind of unnecessary now. HL didn't have unique enough gameplay to carry it. If valve can't sell it based on its next-gen-ness and can't sell it based on unique game play, they won't do it.

That's why people thought that VR would resurrect the series. If Valve could deliver a fully, unique, VR experience on affordable hardware then they might make another. But VR kind of fizzled out.

Where Valve was able to shine and bring something unique was Steam and to a lesser extent, TF2, Dota and CS. So that's what got attention.

>>387016108
Hold the fuck on, what about HL2 ep3?

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>>387018017
Because valve like innovation, That's what they have always been about.

even if it was i don't think i could get excited anymore

Valve wont make the game, but it wont lend the IP to someone, because they are too afraid of losing a potential cashcow.

>>387019008
>it's common business practices
This is the stupidest argument you could possibly bring up, since valve does things that go against good reason and common business practice regularly.

>>387018836
the only reason this got a bad rep was because of the feminism rise at the time
prove me wrong

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2kqSN0MeKE

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>>387016225

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>the most common expectation of hl3 is that it won't live up to expectation

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>Valve releases an animated movie concluding the Half-Life series instead of a game

Y/N ?

>>387018153

>>387020412
Not anymore.

They haven't sunk to despised company levels like EA but Valve are no longer the shining example of PC gaming standards. These days they're just the company that handles steam, updates dota and shoves hats onto everything

>>387025901
i'd rather have a dump of laidlaw's plans

>>387016108
There's nothing they can do that won't end with me being disappointed. I stopped caring years ago. At this point they should just release a document explaining what they intended to do and ideas about what the G-man is and so forth.

This October will mark 10 years since EP2's release.

>>387026073
/v/ is not everyone, majority of people still like Valve. Over the years, multiple most popular games in the world have been made by Valve. Artifact may change that, but I doubt it will be a stain on their portfolio.

>>387026291
orlynoshit

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>>387019274
They should stop being pussies. Just fucking do it. Shoot for the fucking moon. If they fail, they can die in glorious fire, knowing they at least tried to fulfill their destiny.

>>387022352
Valve used to be about innovation, now it's about following the trend that makes the most money.

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>>387016515
IT'S REAL!!!

>>387018587
lose what? they have a succesful businness

For people who are saying valve is terrified in making hl3 due to overhype and making a shit game. Id like to remind you that they announced a fucking dota 2 card game. They could take a shit and it would be more appealing then that.

>>387026291
Steam Dev Days happens in October, only two day difference between hl2ep2 release and the start of this event, if they don't announce it there then HL3 is kill forever

>>387027718
money

>>387018017
the stadard fps is shit by todays standards. they would have to modernize it and would get load of shit for its quicker CoD/BF like gameplay. it would also need to go multiplat. which means multiplayer and lootboxes. now you see why HL3 must never happen

i said it before and ill say it again. they fucked themselves when they released Portal. they would have held onto portal's mechanics and worked it into HL3. it would have been enough to make HL3 unique. we would have fucking loved it

>>387027856
Not if they make hl3 a card game too. Which they might actually be doing now that all their actual talent is gone.

>>387018017
we know hl3 is on development for at least 6 years now (3 years since the leaks anyway) goog jiira files leak valve

the problem is gabe told that they are working in 4 games (6 months ago) and he couldnt say which is which or whatever..
second we have not seen yet a tech demo of source 2
third the first game got released was a card game so that leave us with 3 more to wait
4th we know that hl3 is directly related to source 2 as hl2 was to source...valve tends to showcase their best tech with the best game we theorize (we=valvetime) that if we dont see anything till 2018 there will be no hl3 at all

>>387028884
dota 2 has been on the source 2 engine for like a year now

>>387028926
have you seen the source 2 engine at all? NO
none of us have only few pictures of it

>>387028997
yes it's right there dota 2 is running off it

>>387018017
The game couldn't possibly be as good as people would expect it to be. It would just be impossible and a modern day Duke Nukem Forever.

Also literally every talent that used to work at Valve developing actually GOOD games have all left. It's all twitter posting-call-me-by-my-correct-pronoun-progressive cockends that work there now, oh and Gabe.

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>hl3 is released
>its vr exclusive

>>387018017
They're waiting for VR to become more intricate and release it as a full VR game.

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>>387018484
>No franchise takes that huge of a break, and comes back without missing a step.

>>387029431
masturbating that much isn't healthy blade7

>>387029176
>The game couldn't possibly be as good as people would expect it to be
But EVERYONE is saying this. It doesn't make sense that everyone is expecting it to not live up to people's expectations.

>>387029431
There's Dota 2 Workshop Tools. I hope they'll release general SDK when CSGO gets ported.I hope Mxthe will start working on Underhell Chapter 2 by then.

Post ep2 music please

>>387029304

Sure thing, buddy.

>>387028884
>valve working of 4 full game releases
Orange Box 2!!!

>>387029651
They need to release the SDK already they fucking talked about it in 2012 and the L4D Source 2 leak was in 2011 which means it had to have been already in development, my guess is for at the minimum of 5 or 6 months.

Honestly I'm more excited for the engine than I am whatever Valve is doing with it. But I don't see them shipping the engine without a strong product on it, and vice versa..

They already talked about monetizing the engine so you know they're definitely going to release it but PLS. HAMMER SUCKS SO MUCH SHIT AND MAPPING FOR SOURCE HAS BEEN PAINFUL FOR AT LEAST 6 YEARS NOW

>>387018017
Short of being the VR flagship title to rule over all (extremely unlikely given that VR is already petering out because of the lack of games), there's 0 reason for them to release it any more.

When you have X that's high-risk high-reward, with the chance of impacting their very high track record it's not good business sense to make it, given they print money every day through Steam sales and the whales that spend their money on CS:GO loot crates and TF2 hats

>>387018017
Because it's not the type of game they can milk with microtransactions

THE CAKE IS A LIE

>>387028884
>4 games
Last time I read it it was 2, maximum 3 single player games. One in HL universe. Now when Artifact is confirmed, and it can be both single and multi, we are left with 1-2 games, one of which can be L4D3 since it has both too.

>>387018017
Mostly because they don't need to. Unlike other developers, they're not dependent on revenue from own new game releases thanks to Steam. The rest of the industry does their work for them, so to speak. At this moment in time, they have nothing to gain from making HL3.

So if money isn't a factor, the only other motivation could be to create a bang in the industry, but they can't do that with doing a HL3 that looks and plays like HL2. Narrative shooters have been run into the ground by COD's campaigns and other examples that have threaded on HL's wake since back then. Telling the rest of the story wouldn't guarantee 90s on metacritic. They'd need some new gameplay mechanic or technology advantage to make the game stand out.

From that perspective, a golden opportunity for HL3 presented itself when the portal gameplay gimmick was new and fresh, but they chose to do Portal and Portal 2 instead, which were successful in their own right, but also barred HL3 from being made with that as its core gameplay focus that would make everyone swoon. I guess they could still do it, if they advanced the technology enough to make it usable in combat. Battling combine soldiers with portals opened beneath them sounds crazy fun.

I guess the last thing that really bars them from doing another part is that no one at Valve currently has the vision or drive to make another one. Either Gabe is too pussy to greenlight anything that isn't spectacular and ground shaking, or there's not a single employee at Valve who wants to step up and be the guy who made HL3, since they're all content to count money and make hats.

>>387030442
would love to see l4d in hl universe
throwing toilets with gravity gun on zombies must be fun

>>387021040
Half-Life: Opposing Force was gud, albeit not an IP of it's own.

>>387030575
There's probably a mod for that, or you can play Ravenholm/CS:S zombie servers.

>>387018017

it can never live up to the hype. anything the release will be a disspointment after so many years of wanting

>>387018017
Half-Life 3 will be a VR-only game. It will be the game that Valve uses to showcase how a shooter can be done in VR.
But they must wait until there are enough VR users to make it worthwhile.

>>387030678
havent seen gravity gun used outside of the hl2 deathmatch tho
in a good way anyway
css ze servers are good but not what i asked lol

Also reminder that Borealis was in HL2 beta and plot probably was already written, but it wouldn't satisfy anyone. You're basically going there to prevent ayylmaos from getting superior human local teleportation tech.

>>387027491
they created those trends

>>387030562
Half Life 3 should be fully VR. Its the next leap.

>>387025901
At least we'd have some fucking closure, god damn.

>>387018484
>No franchise takes that huge of a break, and comes back without missing a step
Doom (kinda) did that. Two times.
As did Deus Ex and Fallout.

>>387025901
Gorgeous Freeman already exists.

OMG IS THIS REAL?!

>>387030820
It would be, if someone could finally think of a good FPS movement scheme in VR that isn't teleportation.

>>387018017
Because Gabe can fatten his ass on steam bucks.

valve the only indie company that is one of the richest gaming companies in the world..

>>387019008
Judging by the reaction to Artifact's announcement. People are sick of Valve avoiding the issue. It could end up with customer's losing what little faith they had left and boycotting valve.

They would be wise to try and placate the masses with something half life related at least. Even if it's a spin off, or a new series based in the Half Life universe.

>>387030562
>or there's not a single employee at Valve who wants to step up and be the guy who made HL3, since they're all content to count money and make hats.
Actually there has been a few guys pitching their idea for a HL3 from time to time, but it usually doesn't produce anything since they need the big boss's approval.

>>387031174
>it usually doesn't produce anything since they need the big boss's approval

I'd always thought it was the opposite problem: because of Valve's "flat management" style, you need to get half the company onboard before you can start approaching it seriously

>>387018017
CSGO,TF2 and Dotabring in enough cash for them not to give a shit.
Plus, with the tile they've been given, unless the game is a 100000/10, people are gonna riot. I know vavle employeed said they never vave been and never will be afraid of releasing a game, but I don'r know, maybe it became too big for them.

>>387031271
valves 'flat managment' 'style' is nothing but a PR statement.
They are still a company and if you are or insist on working on something no one else wants the guys in charge are going to tell you to either get out or stop working on it.

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>you'll never see what ultimately becae of Earth
>you'll never find out who the G-man really is
>you'll never visit the combine homeworld
>you'll never see how Gordon's story ends

>>387031271
It's both, I doubt Gaben would gust let people do whatever with HL and I think people either work on Dota or do VR projects since its the future in their eyes. Oh and some people work on technology stuff, like that sound thing reacting differently for different materials and such.

>>387031451
>>you'll never find out who the G-man really is
>you'll never visit the combine homeworld
These things don't need to be shown or explained. Better left unsaid.

>>387016108
Valve hasn't made a game in 6 years.

>Want Half-Life 3
>Get card game instead

Thanks Valve...

>>387031507
>see how majority of Dota players can't play Dota
>make even easier Dota with less action

I would settle for left4dead 3 at the least.

>>387031451
>You'll never explore the Borealis

>>387031479
They already set a precedent when we got to visit alien worlds in the first game, they might as well show the Combine homeworld. They already showed a glimpse anyway through the portal at the end of HL2.

>>387018484
KI:U

>>387031696
Combine don't have a homeword, they take whatever they see, rob the worlds of every material, be that stone or flesh, get anyone willing to cooperate with them and put them in a host body of a slug in a flying machine.

>>387018587
That wast just a fan theory

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>>387031876
Then replace "Combine homeworld" with "Combine Overworld", which is something that was mentioned in the game and may or may not be their homeworld

>>387032002

No, it's common sense.

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>mfw the year of good will built by Valve between 1996 to 2012 have finally eroded away

Took you faggots long enough to see that Valve doesn't give a shit about you anymore.

What if Combine are the good guys? What if they just use all means to stop a bigger evil, what if G-Man just the ruse cruise machine and vortingaunts just don't see the bigger picture?

>>387032428
What if Hitler cured cancer?

>>387032572

Well you can't say he didn't try.

>>387032572
Hitler was an artfag and politician, the definition of useless.

>>387018836
The difference is that Valve hasn't been working on HL3 at all, DNF was in development for 15 years and was being worked on for all those years. Pretty sure they haven't even started the concept phase for HL3

>>387031505
>Valve hasn't made a Windows game in 6 years.
Fixed that for you. It doesn't make sense for Valve to spend money on producing games for Windows with 10 S on the way which signals the death of PC gaming as we know it.

They've been spending all their time and energy helping bring more third-party games to GNU/Linux and they've been pretty clear about the fact that HL3 won't happen until the Linux user share on Steam hits 3 million users. When they said it that would have also been 3% but now Steam has grown so much it would only be about 1.7% and Linux users on Steam are already somewhere around 1.4 million = 175 million unique Steam users, .8% Linux users (not counting users playing with Wine of VM).
So if you want HL3, switch to Linux. Its not like it will be on Windows anyway.

>>387032784
They've started several concepts that they've scrapped.

>>387018484
>What is DOOM
Not perfect but no game is perfect

>>387029413
While nuDOOM was good, it definitely missed some fucking steps, my boy.

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>>387030913
>Fallout
c'mon now

>>387031451
you'll never get that beer
if they make HL3 and don't implement a beer weapon that you can sip with Barney,
its automatically shit

>>387034497
I'll switch to GNU/Linux when Windows 7 is dead

>>387031451
>you will never get of the fucking helicopter

>>387035059
Microsoft may not officially declare it dead for another two years, but its already lacking support for the latest hardware and features.
The sooner you switch, the faster the Linux gaming situation will improve.

There's already thousands of native games available from Steam, GoG, and other vendors.
Plus tens of thousands through emulation and compatibility layers many of which are exactly the same things you'd use to run those games on Windows like DOSbox or Dolphin.
You may not be able to play everything, but there's plenty of games to play. I honestly never thought I'd have a backlog of games just playing stuff on Linux.

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>some guy found leaks of a shitload of new game files for the Half-Life 2 Beta and betas for Counter-Strike and I think a few gold source games
>even game files for Counter-Strike: Neo and Half-Life 2: Survivor (the Japanese-only arcade games) I believe
>uploads it to some ftp
>gets DMCA'd for all the game files and is forced to remove them
Why the fuck didn't I just download them all, goddamn it. Fuck you Valve you stupid cunts

>>387035490
None of that shit was really new, it was just collected from all over.

>>387035861
The arcade game ones were rips I believe

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>>387018153
>They doesn't know what know i am

Better question: Where the fuck is L4D3?
I remember some Valve employee held an interview near his desk and someone spotted a L4D3 icon on the screen. It was clearly in development.

>>387036109
It's in development, Artifact is just easier to make and it's related to Dota, it wouldn't make sense to reveal L4D3 on a Dota event.

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>>387036109
Dev Days is in October, we've previously seen screenshots of L4D3 in slides from Dev Days.
L4D3 is almost certainly one of the 3 games they mentioned that are under development.
Probably waiting a bit for the RadV driver to be up to speed (Valve has a bunch of people working on it)
and for the Vulkan install base in general to be large enough to do a Vulkan-only release.

I WANT A NEW DAY OF DEFEAT

>>387032220
>HL3 was a fucking meme in 2013
>the Potato Sack that everyone though would lead to Episode 3 was 2011

>>387036338
Nice fan fic

>>387036698
Fan fic?

Valve's new Source 2 engine was built for Vulkan.
Valve has developers working on the RadV driver: https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/mesa-dev/2017-August/164903.html
I've got the slides saved somewhere, I'll see if I can dig them up.

>>387034825
Do go on....

>>387021815
>HL didn't have unique enough gameplay to carry it.
Are there any other games with those puzzle-platforming sections between the shootan? I thought that was the best part of the half life series.

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>>387018836
>worked on by multiple companies without much thought into quality (evidenced by being finished by fucking gearbox)
>like a game maybe being worked on by respected devs with intense playtesting and high funds
HL3 would be disappointing, but it would be a different story than DNF

also hl3's death is the result of valve's freeform management and how that results in no stable teams, not laziness or fear

>>387029304
>>387029181
if that happens i'll board the next plane to the US and bomb their headquarters

>>387038185
Don't worry, it won't be VR exclusive
Just Linux exclusive

>>387018017
>All jokes aside, why doesn't Valve want to work on this series anymore?

>work
here is your answer

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>>387038416
Valve is notorious for washing people out who don't meet their standards for self-motivated work ethic.

Pic related is the reason they haven't released anything for Windows lately. Their last Linux release was last year, and the Source2/Vulkan port of CS:GO is probably the next thing to watch for.

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>>387026291
>the six years waiting for HL2 felt like forever
>HL3 wait is very likely over two times longer if it even ever gets released

>>387038741
HL3 release day is going to be January 14, 2020.
Same as the Windows EOL date.

if hitler was alive we would be playing hl3 right NOW

They had a shot as a launch title for SteamVR.
Just like HL1 and HL2 presents technological leap where one could experience virtual reality.
They could have made even a bad sequel and it still would have sold millions and be ok since its a new format namely VR.

>>387039004
More like February 30th 2019

>>387029593
I suppose it could live up to people's expectations if it turns out to be total shit, sure.

>>387018836
Fuck you this game was good

>>387039189
The only way it will come sooner is if the pace of people switching to Linux increases.
Right now it looks like Windows 10 S adoption rates will be much higher and cause some serious problems for Valve.
HL3 may be Steam's swan song for a small group of Valve's most dedicated fans, rather than the triumphal start of a new era.

>>387018017

he's still mad about the fat jokes

>>387018017
They wanted to wait for vr (and better hardware capabilities in general) before creating a sequel to one of the most critically acclaimed games of all time. The problem is that Valve realised money > acclaim and they will continue to focus all of their efforts on hardware, Steam and Dota.

>>387025901
There actually is a Half-Life movie in the works.

>>387039937
>It's real
Jesus fucking christ. A portal movie too.
By JJ Abrams though so they're going to be shit.

>>387039670
Every single time nobody even pays attention to the month and date.

>>387018017
1. Steam, DoTA, CS GO, and HATS makes Valve too much money.
2. HL3 is a victim of too much hype. No matter what they put out, it will fail to meet with the 12 year hype the series has generated.

>>387040197
There are always pre-production sessions for movie tie-ins to games, it's just that the majority gets cancelled before they even pick up a camera. Remember the Last of Us movie that was being made when LoU was released? Or the Bioshock one?

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>>387032220
>Surgeon simulator
Fuck, 2013 feels like it was yesterday.

>>387016108
https://twitter.com/IsHL3OutYet

>>387034941
even if you don't like it it is still a extremely sucessfull franchise now since 3.

>>387016108
wow another walking sim

>>387025901
what about a bi-monthly curated box of snacks?

>>387016228
they don't want your heart, you stupid goy

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>>387016108

got some hl3 concept art

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>>387018017
Because the vast majority of people who were working on the Half-Life series quit after Ep1

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>>387025084
It's also a shitty game