>the evolution of video games

2d sonic has always been shit to be fair

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>>387014316
Fixed

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>>387014539
FUCK I forgot to crop it

just kill me

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>>387014539
Forces looks like the bonus stage from Knuckles Chaotix

>>387014605
It's at this point you close the thread in shame. At least you didn't make an obvious spelling mistake.

Gimmie that top game.

>>387014669
pointless fucking "bonus" levels. their only purpose is to slowly sap your rings I swear.

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>>387014539
>posting a prerendered cutscene

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>>387014605
Sorry anon, but you know I have to post this.

>>387014392
No way. They are the only good thing going for Sonic.

>>387016164
Literally git gud you fucking retard

https://youtu.be/WYDsz1NFBJw?t=9m16s

sonicfags WILL defend this, this isn't even taking input lag into consideration

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>>387014316
But it's great, we can play Sonic and Mario on the same console

>>387020321
There are many problems with Sonic, but "too hard" is not one of them.

>>387020321
I sincerely hope you only posted this video for shitposting purposes and don't actually think they make a good argument. For fucks sake, one of their points accounts for the game running at 30 FPS when in actuality, it runs at 60. They can't even do their research. Go put this in the trash.

>>387020501
this has nothing to do with difficulty idiot

>>387020570
the game they played is in 60FPS, the recording is just in 30FPS. It changes nothing

>>387020604
>this has nothing to do with difficulty

Whining that you don't have enough time to react?
What the fuck does difficult mean to you, you chucklefuck?

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>dat cherrypicking
Cherry pick a counter example then.

>>387020604
They shouldn't base their argument around the recording, they should base it based on how the game actually runs when you're looking at it while inputting commands.

>>387020321
>it goes to fast for me to react
then slow down
speed is not given, it is earned.

the sad part is nintendo couldn't make a throwback title without losing everything that made the fans want it to begin with.

>>387020686
Jesus christ feed those fucking horses

>>387020321
>>387020714
Reminder that like everyone who complains Sonic is shit, these dumbasses don't ever press down to roll into a ball which would solve over half their problems.

2D Sonic isn't perfect but it seriously is an example of people shitting on it just because they're too dumb to learn how to play the game correctly.

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>>387020817
Shit you're right, those things are practically skeletons.

ah sonic
the only series where you get both
>this game is just hold right to win
and
>this game goes to fast, why can't I just hold right to win?
as complaints towards the same 3 games.

>>387020649
it completely halts the game to a screeching stop, how the fuck can sonic ever be hard when there is an infinite supply of coins

>>387021030
>it completely halts the game to a screeching stop

Sure, if you're the kind of incompetent tit with the reaction time of a sloth who is constantly getting hit by things.

>>387021030
>I keep getting hit, I can't keep up with the game
>but the game is totes easy even tho I keep getting shat on

Sonic is literally just side scrolling pinball.

>>387020686
t-thanks nintendo

>>387021113
>less than .25 seconds to react, not factoring in latency from controller inputs
>huur ur bad

typical sonicfag, the only reason you can "react" is because you've memorized enemy placements

>>387020686
>Console game
>Console game
>Handheld game
Are you retarded? This is like doing a comparison with A Link to the Past and Link's Awakening to represent the "regression " of Zelda.

>>387021390
>a handheld released 20 years later

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>>387014316

>>387021390
Comparison is fair if they wanted it to be part of the same series of games.

If you want to call it Dragon Quest 9, there's no reason to not compare it to Dragon Quests 1 through 8.

At least there is a DQ11 on something other than a handheld.

>>387014539
>Fixed
But that's worse.

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>>387020321
>"I only got 8 frames of reaction time"
>8 frames is 200ms i.e. sluggish average non-vidya playing reaction time
>"Oh man watch out for that annoying enemy coming up that we know about ahead of time"
>does absolutely nothing not even a fidget left or right
>"It's the game's fault the entire time"
>doesn't even spin into a ball

They pulled the same shit about not knowing how to play video games with their review of Alien Isolation, but that was even worse since they didn't know shit about the movies either. Do these guys just have a vendetta against Sega or what?

>>387021752
>input latency doesn't exist

>>387021752
There are SO MANY PICTURES of that purple haired girls BIG FAT ASS.

Why is this?

>>387020321
Suddenly, "boost2win" makes a lot of sense. Why even bother practicing when you can just hold X

>>387021532
Ouya is pretty much Action 52 of the current gen.
Like just watch an Ouya video and it literally feels like watchin someone play Action 52.

Someone make an Action 52 and Ouya side by side similar to OP.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJK_uGJb4AA

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>>387021834
>already know where enemy is going to be
>see the enemy before it starts its attack
>shoots out spikes extremely slowly
>does absolutely nothing
>input latency was the issue

>spin dash and rolling is something everyone has used since day one/Sonic 2
>keeps the player safe from ground enemies and gives you the speed you need
>do it dozens of seconds before you meet an enemy in order to get moving
>input latency was the issue

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>>387021280
u wot

>>387022201
>relies on previous knowledge to work

yeah, that's shit design my friend

>>387022278
>I can't read

>>387020321
I was 3 when I finished this game first time. For fuck sake, them in 2017 comes 2 fagots to discuss if this is bad or good. Grow some standards.

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>>387022278
>opening the manual and reading that down + jump to spin dash is shit design
Unless you mean them dodging the slow shooting enemy, then that's just their shit reaction time being even worse because they couldn't even react when they knew it was there.

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>>387020321
>AIDSMOBY

>>387021364
Or you can press down to go rolling and kill them dumb fuck

>>387022364
retard this isn't about finishing the game it's about poor design, of course you finished it when you were 3 coins are infinite and always spew out when you get hit

>>387022448
spiked attacks still hit you in ball form dumbass

>>387022278
>You should never be hit by an enemy on your first playthrough

Yeah that's shit player mentality my friend.

>>387021364
>>less than .25 seconds to react, not factoring in latency from controller inputs
game is supposed to be played on CTR, where input lag doesn't exists.
I know you faggots got brainwashed with BlastProcessing and shit, but Sonic 1 was never about speed. Hell, Sonic 1 is not even that good, but having to react to shit, like any other platformer, is not one of it's problems. Uninspired level design and boring bosses are the problem,.

>>387021834
>input latency is a thing
Did you ever played a genesis?

>>387022521
>CTR, where input lag doesn't exists.

false

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>>387020686
>that Herald Shield girl
>that size difference

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>>387014316
>>387014392
>These fucking nint0ddlers
>Mad that Modern 2D Mario games are still inferior technologically than the early 90s Sonic games
Top kek
Enjoy your block-based tilesets from the 80s you cucks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uh-m4U2w0z8

>>387021390
Corretion: it's a 3DS game

Vita games can easily look like the 2004 DQ game, and that's a handheld too

>>387014316
Mario World >>>>>>>>> Cuckdyssey

>>387022587
So you can experience nanoseconds, anon? Or you have shit CRT that does some form of image processing, like a lot of CRTs from mid 2000s?

>>387020321
Get the fuck out you faggot nu-male
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uh-m4U2w0z8

>>387021221
Yes.
If a game gives you 99999999 health amd enemies deal 1, does it make it super hard because you get hit once or twice? I think I'm more likely to see a fail state playing heavy rain.

>>387022479
How can you call bad design when knowing the restrains of development in that time? This game can be finished in one sit. At the third stage you areadly have control and understanding of the game. Games at that time had instructions booklets where you learned a LOT about the game, there were no room for tutorials in the cartridge. This video just show one single moment of the whole game where they are got by surprise (common shit in any game) and they yell bad design. Bulshit.

>>387022701
what are you even talking about

christ frogposters are fucking retarded, get off my site

>>387014539
Much better, now we can see how full retard all devs got.

>>387014316

sonicfags are autism

>>387023059
>the restrains of development in that time

not an excuse, every other game had this too

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>>387020494

>I'll give you a (you) because erryone else is dumb

I don't get how sonic still exists.
Are there really enough autists to support it? Kids don't play it anymore. I guess MLP is the same thing, but it's still weird for sega to attach itself to such a reputation. I mean it's great for the fans I guess. Just odd.

>>387023168
>Are there really enough autists to support it?

unfortunately

>>387022701
I think the point was that mario games managed to evolve with the rest of the industry while the only good modern sonic games are those imitating the exact look and gameplay of a 16-bit game from 1991.

>>387020686
I still prefer the 2000 (probably more towards the IV,V,VI ds look) more than what they put out now.

>>387022701
>heavy breathing slow neckbeard voice with long pauses

He could be telling me the secret of eternal life I still wouldn't finish your video

>>387020494
Unfortunately it's not a Sega console

>>387020321
How can people argue that Sonic isn't one of the most overrated games ever? We've had decades upon decades of dog shit Sonic games just because the first couple were good. It blows my mind how all of the autists on this board will dismiss any other game or series because of the smallest detail but hold the Sonic series, of all things, in such high regard.

>>387020827
>2D Sonic isn't perfect
Sonic 3K is literally the definition of a perfect game

>>387023558
besides the sonic mania threads, in what fucking parallel world you see that? if anything, there are more retards like you still going with the "sonic is bad" meme

>>387021752
Another thing is that Mike, who doesn't even like video games, knows more about video games than either of them

>>387023373
They didn't evolve shit you autist
The 2D games are still fucking tile-based

And Cuckdyssey is a step back from Galaxy/3D World. It's just going back to the boring open world 64-style garbage where there's almost no platforming whatsoever.

>>387023558
Because we aren't cancerous nint0ddlers like you

>>387023789
>Cuckdyssey
>has absolutely abhorrent opinions
Checks out

>>387014316
Whats with all these sonic bait threads currently??????

>>387023834
>you have to like Nintendo to dislike sonic
Really makes one ponder. Crash was better than both mario and sonic but to be fair it isn't hard to be better than sonic

>>387023789
>sm64 has no platforming
W E W

>>387023858
>Nintendo improves Mario with Galaxy/3D World by actually making platforming in 3D fun for once
>Hurr durr let's go back to that shitty outdated 64/Sunshine style
Really makes me think.

>>387014392
Hello IGN

>>387020321
>Waaaahh it's too fast I need to learn the levels!!
This is not an argument. Sonic is easy, but if you want to blaze through the levels that takes practice.

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How did Mario not get the autistic fanbase when it panders to all fetishes? It's had so far;
Inflation
Fur suits
A main character who's only sounds are shrieking
Toddlercon bait
Barafag pandering
Gigantism
Vore
Egg laying

Just to name a few.

>>387023925
>shitty outdated
>improves with 3D world
(You) (You) (You)

>>387023914
The platforming is for the most part restricted to the Bowser levels. Most of the other missions have you collect some shit or guess the treasure chest or other kinds of non-Mario trash.

>>387021561
game play and story sure, visuals not so much

>>387023973
>inflation
Hm?
>mario shrieks
HM?

>>387023973
>How did Mario not get the autistic fanbase
Are you serious?

Do you even go on /v/ even?

>>387023901
>Crash was better than both mario and sonic
Hahahahahahhaha fucking Sonnyggers
Crash was literally DKC in 3D and DKC was such an outdated as fuck platformer mechanically and sold purely on eyecandy alone

>>387023558
And the general opinion of classic fans is that... the recent Sonic game sucks but the first couple were good, and they just argue because some posters specifically point to the first games when saying sonic isn't good. So you aren't saying anything new.

>>387023974
>We finally get proper power-ups in 3D
>Nah fuck it let's go back to those times piece of shit powerups in the earlier 3D games

>>387023973
Because Mario games actually good and appeal to everybody. Autists don’t like things that appeal to healthy people so they choose things that most people regard as trash.

>>387023901
crash is the only major platformer series to be worse than sonic lol, should have said spyro

even then

>any ps1/sega platformer being better than mario

don't make me laugh

odyssey looks like a fucking lego marvels knock off

>>387024089

Fly cap is more interesting than every single thing in 3d world

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>>387024018
You've not played the game where the baby dinosaurs inflate to look like balloons or heard Mario go Bing Bing Wahoo?

>>387023973
do you think that yoshi gets embarassed when he poos out eggs in front of mario sorry if this ofends anyone but i thought it was a funny thing haha

>>387024098
>Spyro
Collectathon trash. Literally worse than Crash.

None even come close to early sonic games which are the best platformers ever made period.

>>387022739
The 3DS wasn't even a thing in 2009 you coon.

>>387024139
Fly cap is a literal shit version of the Cape from World. Situational piece of shit.

>>387024151
>that pic
It's honestly sad how people defend these pieces of shit. They're literally inferior to the 8/16 bit Mario games.

>>387024151

I haven't played any of the recent ones but you've convinced me to try it with that screenshot. Look more fun than anything Sonic related.

>>387024220

You mean it's not gamebreakingly overpowered and doesn' make the game trivial? How is that a bad thing exactly?

>>387023925
>3d platformers with open themepark worlds are now "outdated".

I've seen some stupid, delusional shit on /v/, but that is up there in the top ten at least.

>>387024165
>early sonic games which are the best platformers ever made period.

HAHAHAHAHA

>>387023973
>Panders
You're just taking innocuous things and making them something else of where they're actually not.

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>>387014316
>Mario odyssey
>impressive
Meanwhile in 2008 for Sonic..

>>387014539
You are ruining the joke you retard

>>387024282
It might as well not even be there

>>387024481
You could have posted 2006 and it'd still be valid

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>>387024481

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>>387024550

>>387024403
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZV5UNS2y60
Stay mad Nint0ddler

>>387014316
2D games are better than 3D trash

>>387024576
trash

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>>387024573

>>387024550
>>387024573
>>387024481

Decent graphics for its time, shit gameplay though. That's the thing these people will never understand. People play Nintendo games for the gameplay, not to be impressed by graphics. Sadly Sonic fans had to go though so many shit Sonic games to get to what might be a decent Sonic game soon.

>>387024632
The fur looks like fucking sif's fur
A fuzzy mess

>>387024632
What were they even thinking with that werehog shit? GODDAMN.

>>387024682
a beat'em up section would fit knuckles better

>>387024619
HHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA SO MAD THAT YOUR SHITTY MARIO GAMES NEVER HAD AN ENGINE AS COMPLEX AS THAT

STAY BOOTYBLASTED FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE YOU PATHETIC NINT0DDLER HAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

>>387014669
>>387016164
To be fair, the bonus stage in chaotix was literally just a time wasting effort to make the game seem longer than it was. You couldn't technically get a game over in the game so extra lives or rings were pretty pointless.

And if you weren't completely inept you didn't really need the character select helper items either.

Why haven't they made a platformer crossover between the Mario and Sonic already? Would said crossover even work out well?

>>387020321

My god he is fucking terrible at Sonic.
How even do you be this bad?

>>387020827
>these dumbasses don't ever press down to roll into a ball which would solve over half their problems.

They also don't roll into consoles in order to break them. So many fucking youtube videos of people playing Mania have people who weren't even born when the genesis came out , let alone know how to play the game they keep sucking the glorified dick of.

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>>387024662
Unleashed daytime gameplay was one of the most solid Sonic 3D experiences though. The night one could have been better if there was less repetiitive combat and exp scaling. I personally wanna see a sequel, but it'd have to be after Sonic Team gets their shit together.

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>>387024832

>Unleashed daytime gameplay was one of the most solid Sonic 3D experiences though.
>Drifting
>Stomping while moving

>>387024725
And probably be more fun to play and have more complex stages thanks to the glide. Hopefully we can get some of that after this shitty forces game.

>>387024749
imagine being this autistic

>>387020321
Unironically agree. The whole series has an identity crisis, down to the fact that they canonically made two different sonics to appease fans who thought eye color mattered.

I've never had fun with a Sonic game.

>>387024632
>>387024573
>>387024550
>>387024481
One of the ugliest art-styles ever. the people in that game are abominations.
also both night and day stages were p shit

>>387021447
>20 years later
>game developed 5 years apart from eachother
just stop.

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>>387025272
better than this

>>387025272
I don't even like Unleashed but the graphics aren't why at all, one of the best looking 2000s platformers.

>>387025370
Is your compressed screenshot from a video supposed to show anything

>>387025370
Even with all the compression it looks better, do you even look at what you post

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>>387025562
>I-it's compressed!!

>>387025639
Anon you can do better than this. As you can see the size is 178kb. Now look at the unleashed screenshots. 1 MB minimum. Despite everything it looks better

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>>387025562
from the official gallery

>>387020321
I love Rich but I'll never forgive him for this trash. AIDSMoby can die in a fire.

>>387025725
looks like a 2007 game

>>387025725
>96kb
Holy hell even worse

>>387025681
I know, that's why it's stupid to try to reply to it in the first place, it only makes you look desperate and butthurt.

I mean, look at the textures on everything in this >>387024550, it was fine ten years ago but Mario looks better in some stages that have been shown.

>>387026013
I'm just bored, really, and I like to feel superior by correcting people

>>387025893
well i guess nintendo doesn't care about quality. odyssey won't be that impressive graphically considering it's on a glorified tablet. even BOTW suffers from jaggies and frame drops.

it's going to barely look better than unleashed, if that's even accomplished, and if they turn off the blur.

>>387024256
>>387024263
Now fight

>>387025370
SO THEYRE FINALLY HERE

>>387024091
>Autists don’t like things that appeal to healthy people
lol yes they do. they just become unhealthily obsessed with it.

Mania is a throwback to cd

Odessdy is a throwback to 64

>>387021945
Because she is a semen demon with a big fat ass

>>387026597
>a throwback to cd
to sonic 3*

>>387026091
>barely look better
Lmao even in the compressed cherrypicked screenshots it looks better

>>387025725

Could anyone have imagined that we'd get a video game like this in 2017? A post-Call of Duty world?

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hmm

>>387023981
>I never player Super Mario 64

>>387024153
okay please post images of yoshi with an emberresd face as he poos out an egg in front of mario just for the jokes haha

>>387026597
>CD

mania pretends CD doesn't exist, lel. Better off that way, sonic CD is shit

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Mario has always been superior to Sonic anyway. Why do you think he won while Sonic has to protitute himself to appear with Mario in the olympic games or smash bros?

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>>387027013
>literally has 2 stages from Sonic CD
>has an altered version of the Sonic CD UFO stage s the main special stage
>features both Amy and Metal Sonic
retard

>>387027195
>BING BING WAHOO
>relatable
if you're autistic maybe

>>387027339
How can he be autistic if he doesn't like sonic?

>>387027339
Mario didn't talk at the time, so it's
>BING BING *sound yoshi makes in SMW*
Get your memes right please.

>>387027262
The intro only says 1 2 3 K and M

CD is not canon

>>387028371
Well, it is not a numbered entry so it is borderline spinoff. Not surprising.

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>>387017571
That's unfortunate, because the 2D games are trash.

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>>387025725
These don't particularly do the game any justice, considering their sub-480 resolution and compression.

>>387023789
>boring open world 64-style garbage
I don't think anon would know good taste if it hit him so hard in the face that his nose vaporized.

>>387014539
I wanna pet infinite's floofy tail.

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>>387030161
I bet he would secretly like it.

>>387030254
I hope so.

>>387024725
I still think that game would have sold if they just called it Sonic World Adventure & Knuckles

>>387028371
canon enough to have a prominent role in mania bitch boi

>>387024632
Survival of the fittest Leonard

>>387030254
That isn't his color scheme

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>>387032924
It's difficult to tell what colour he actually is when he's constantly glowing.

>>387014392
Wrong.

All sonic games have been shit so far.

>>387033106
I think that might be on purpose and his colour is a big hint to who he really is.

>>387027195
Mario can't die as long as he has mushroom, and game is very generous on those.

>>387023893
Shitposters are angry that people are getting excited about something

>>387033106
Honestly confused, how come people shit talk stuff like Shadow and the other edge moments in the Sonic franchise 24/7 but then everyone's excited about Forces with it's apocalyptic destruction and that Mephiles 2.0?

>>387020827
The spindash was created because people are too fucking retarded to just roll.

>>387034281
It's been a while since that sort of stuff, I can understand why some people might miss the edge over the kind of writing we saw in Lost World or the non existant story of Generations. Say what you like about him but Infinite looks more memorable than the Time Eater or the Deadly Six.

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>>387014316
>The irony is that Sonic Forces is STILL going to look better Mario Odyssey and Mania looks 10000 better than both from a style perspective
Nintendo will never into graphics

>>387034463
Nah actually the spindash was to help them expand level design and increase the pace for those that knew when they could use it. Without that on-demand little spurt of speed and momentum you instead need to find a stretch to run along if you want to use the speed to get past something. It's actually a genius mechanic.

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>>387034967
True sonic pros can roll up