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this is a thread about Nioh
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Why is umbrasite so annoying to farm?
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>>386986092
it isn't?

stack luck and do coop

it drops all the time
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>Nurarihyon's spirit attack
>like 15 second long triple whirlpool of water damage and blindness
jesus fucking christ this thing is nuts
how much damage will i get out of him if i take spirit to 99?
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pc when
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>>386986849
If you can get a boss in a corner with Sloth and Discord, a lot.
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>>386985965
I like Nioh
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reminder to learn to ki pulse
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>>386985965
Nioh is sort of an incline game. It's rather complex for an ARPG
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ok so there is a nioh thread, here comes the question

how the fuck do you level? there are leveling videos getting millions, i just want t obe level 180 dammit.

i finished story lv90. played dlc (dlc was level150) and summoned because i did no dmg. i can't play the second dlc because it is 180 levels. wtf am i supposed to do? grind? play the game again in way of strong? boring as fuck dude, lame. is there a easy way to get to level 180 from level 100?
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>>386985965
This game is still full fucking price. Is it worth full price or should i wait?
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>>386985965
currently downloading on PS4 but it will take 10 hours
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>>386987489
go to higher levels and difficulties
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>>386987494
depending on if you intend to play their autismo gear game thats actually not that bad compared to ARPGs that allow you to mod your gear
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>>386985965
>finalstand.webm

someone post it with the conquered pasta
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I am allergic to one/two hit kill modes.

how do i make way of the demon playable?
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>>386987494
I'm on the same boat here, this pisses me off that the game's price hasn't dropped yet
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>>386987707
Wear heavy armor, get 99 stamina, join Todo. Should be smooth sailing til way of the wise, honestly. Even there, 99% of stuff won't one-shot you, although you can still eat 6000 damage hits to your 7500+ life.
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>>386987569

so i need to finish the game again. umi bozu hitting 8k while my hp is 2k. its normal attacks were 1 hits too but i killed that shit by dodging with living weapon. still only gave me 2 levels. so yea, i am not playing the whole game again for dlc. i know this is souls+ diablo but too grindy, so cancer. just make the dlc 120-150 level instead of 150-180 and make higher diffuculty versions for other players. not everyone wants to fucking grind their asses for seeing one fucking dlc and 3 bosses.
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>>386988020
what? gear score matters more then fucking levels
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>>386988098

i farmed some revenants and got 50 red demon set and 1 kingo set.used kingo, later switched to a dlc heavy set. no dmg no enjoyment
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>>386987489
Mission level doesn't mean much. It starts to outpace you by the end of NG, and only gets wider over time. The level cap is 550 while missions are going up to 900+.

Also do this.
>>386988004

I think a lot of Umi Bozu's attacks just instantly kill anyone. The beam can be 100% mitigated with specific setups since it's elemental, but overall it's just a shitty boss that flails around and to make up for how bad its moveset is it just does a billion damage. No getting around that.
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>>386987494
I pre-orderd the game and season pass, I can say the story is just entertaining enough to keep you going but not good enough to get you invested, the gameplay is like many MMOs: If you aren't using a broken as shit build, you will struggle with near end game and beyond.
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>>386986495
>coop
>not anoying
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>>386988376
>meme builds

>he doesnt know how to todo and get mad damage
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>>386987701
No matter what it turns out to be, The Mark of the Conqueror is significant.

Before I say why I need to divide the Souls community into two general groups - Conquerors and Conquered - and quickly define both.

Both have basically been around since Demon's Souls, but the very nature of the Conquered demands that the Conquerors come first. Why? Because Conquers beat the path and light the way. Afterward, like mold or a rot, the Conquered seep into the community, ever at the heels of the Conquerors.

How is that? Either by a lack of information upon release or due to a self-imposed restriction, the Conqueror goes in blind. Conquerors embrace the challenge From Software has extended with each release in their Souls/Bloodborne Series while the Conquered abhor it. While Conquerors scratched and clawed their way through levels and boss fights, the Conquered poured over FAQs, Strategy Guides, Wiki Articles, Google Search Results, Let's Plays and How to Videos.

Therefore the Conquered subsist by virtue of the illumination spread over From's games by the Conquerors, entirely dependent on it. Overtime they've let themselves forget this, fancying themselves old hands as they bring their borrowed knowledge and tactics to bear on each successive release.

And then here comes fucking Nioh, reminding the Conquered who they really are. And with little to no documentation in sight they hide behind shitposts so they can cling to that "gud" status they worked so hard to attain. Eventually they'll be back. Once the Conquerors have shown the way, that is.

And that's why The Mark of the Conqueror is significant. No matter how superficial, uselessly cosmetic or quickly outclassed it is, it stills says I'm not this >>386987489
No, I'm a Conqueror.
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>>386988651
>I pre-orderd the game and season pass, I can say the story is just entertaining enough to keep you going but not good enough to get you invested, the gameplay is like many MMOs: If you aren't using a broken as shit build, you will struggle with near end game and beyond.


you dont really have an excuse considering there are new moderately acquirable materials that allow you to choose your gear mods pretty easily
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>>386988462
>>386988684

i joined todo and wore heavy armor for that. cant mid dash but still fast enough, i am good at dodging and blocking is op in this game so it is pretty much no-hit for me, even with heavy armor. but still, i dunno wtf am i doing wrong. all divine, all set, i take too much damage but its ok i can make no hit runs. i can't make enough damage to enemies. wtf should i do, expect playing the whole fucking game again.
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I played leveling like Dark Souls, kept myself at a cap or where I was not having too much trouble. Is that a thing to worry about with Nioh or should I keep leveling past "caps"?

I ask because I see people taking 99 of stats, esp in build videos.
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>>386988651
T.Conquered
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>>386988952
Don't bother, way of the demon is a shitty mode that only exists to please the most autistic of players.
It adds hardly anything except for extremely increased damage numbers.

Way of the strong was a good ng+ demon and wise are just overkill.
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>daily Nioh shill thread
What a sad time to be on this board. Also, this fucking autist. >>386988723 So glad I'm not him.
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>>386988952
>he doesnt know about weight reduction mods
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>people are whining about "autistic" gear mod grind

wooooooooow I get to pick whatever I want
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>>386989272
i only want to keep his memory alive. It was a good time
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>>386988956
Just keep levelling. The only thing that's remotely level capped is revenant loot. If you kill a revenant that's a higher level than you, it drops more loot. Lower level, it drops only one or two of its held items.
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>>386989209

i don't care about ng+s ,i only want to play the dlc. 1st dlc bosses and 2nd dlc itself is too hard for me. i am level 120 now- all divine gear - todo clan. i hit bosses for 2% fucking health while summons fucking kill it in 2 hits wtf man. i don't want to be overleveled, i just want to deal decent damage like i did at beginning of the game. btw i use onmyo-ninjutsu, both leveled to 20( i would leave them 15 but wanted to see the dojo missions. onmyo hidden is ok but ninjutsu special shit is useless). i use swords.
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so what is battle of skill like
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>>386989607
level does not matter as much as gear

level up your gear
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>>386988723
lol, bueno
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>>386988956
There's no reason to stop leveling, but individual levels also don't mean much so there's no reason to go out of your way to grind. The game does a pretty good job of ratcheting up level costs and doling out amrita in a fashion where you'll be roughly where they expect you to be most of the time.

Also there's a lot fewer notions of soft-caps than Souls have, so most stats see a linear gain from like 20 to 99.

>>386989415
It was great, up until they added a new rarity you can't forge, stats you can't reforge to get, and 7 random sets that can appear on any gear. Accessories also remain a huge pain in the ass, but that's largely because I've spent 10 hours farming them and having found a single one with luck during living weapon.
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How are you supposed to get gold for soul forging? It was manageable earlier in the game, but I need like 20x my current gold to soul forge my weapon.
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>>386989436
There's literally nothing good about this game. Sure, it's fun for maybe 2 hours, then it's literally the same exact thing until the end. And not even just the same gameplay, but the same bosses, same enemies, same areas. I'll never not regret buying this garbage.
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>>386989825
The game keeps track of how many times you've soul-matched a weapon's level up. Way of the Wise has gear that rolls with a property that resets it when you feed it to the original item, but until then you basically just give up and get a new weapon.
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>>386990006
I like the combat enough to keep playing it. I still replay the dmc games and those are the same 20 or so levels ad infinitum.
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>>386990006
that's okay. i hope you find a game that brings you great joy in the future
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>>386989627
which ever set that gives you life seal and if you can land it
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>>386989776
>It was great, up until they added a new rarity you can't forge, stats you can't reforge to get, and 7 random sets that can appear on any gear. Accessories also remain a huge pain in the ass, but that's largely because I've spent 10 hours farming them and having found a single one with luck during living weapon.


its not THAT necessary you can still do fine with divine tier stuff
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>>386986849
does spirit scale up guardian attacks? does magic have any effect?
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>>386989415
you can't get perfect rolls that way tho, so it's okay

you're stuck with familiarity damage bonus A and CtA whatever A+ while an autist will have CtA AA and senpai damage bonus A+ on an ethereal weapon (without star rolls)
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>>386990006
What is most games. Hell you could argue any game is the same thing over and over again.
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>>386990613
its not really THAT necessary to get star rolls at all

its only like a 5% difference that doesnt matter in pve
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>>386990201
Yeah, I beat wise with all divines. It just sucks to see all of the systems become meaningless with new additions. No point in forging because they can't roll ethereal. No point in disassembling because you have no need for mats you can't use to forge. No point in those smithing texts you farmed either.

Also even if you're into the grind, it's set up in a way that doesn't reward actually playing the game and instead pushes people to farming the same chest/loot either infinitely or spam restarting the mission, because as tedious as that is, it's 1000x faster than just hoping for the best.
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>>386988956
level isn't as important as gear, back when DLC1 came out I cleared WotD comfortably at level 150

the main reason I did this is because it inflated revenant difficulty and made them drop 4 pieces of gear every time

it doesn't really matter outside of that though
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mfw I got lucky and got almost everything I wanted before I even finished the DLC in WoTW
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>>386990660
it is to an autist

and I'm not even talking about star rolls, just ethereal rolls that only appear when you reforge 3 or more stats at a time
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>>386990775
>grinding for tsukuyomi on all onmyo mage gear+black fox mask
>I'll never get it even with 900 luck
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>>386990613
>senpai damage bonus A

wow

they still haven't taken down that word filter?
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>got the gunsticks smith text from the ninja boss at the end of DLC2 first mission
>got the black fox mask text from the first black robed mage in mission 2
>got the white mask text from the first white robed mage
Are they guaranteed drops, or have I finally stacked so much luck that I've become the weeb Mr. Jackpots?
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>>386990006
the fun I've had for the past 500 hours wasn't real fun

it was just nu-fun
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>>386991148
its probably not that hard to get em

I got the gunstick text and armor on my second run just to get the LORE
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>>386989272
haha

You bugged his AI. That means the game is shit. Thread over I guess.
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>>386991346
Yeah, I'm just surprised they dropped first time I encountered these enemies. Having two +50 Luck accessories feels good.
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>any weapon type feels primitive as fuck compared to kusari/spear combo and sheer amount of skills you can use with them at once
i wish they introduced something extremely technical in last dlc because every time i start playing with 2kat or axe i just fucking drop them because of how mechanically uninteresting they are
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>>386992242
Tonfa?

Odachi is a create a combo stick
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>>386992336
tonfa is actually fairly uninteresting unless you're rocking gunstick which you won't get until the second dlc
demon dance pulverize is the only thing of note it has, but base moveset feels sluggish as fuck and i'm pretty sure it has like the slowest running attacks in the game
i can give you odachi since it's like my third favourite weapon type in the game
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>>386992549
>i can give you odachi since it's like my third favourite weapon type in the game


Running stab is so awesome in pvp that it has the best range of the spear while having hyper armor
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>>386992668
the thing that makes spear so awesome is not even its range, it's how technical and fun it is to use
with stability you can pull off massive juggles against entire squads of enemies thanks to chidori, jump around like a crazy monkey, utterly smash humanoids into the ground with spearfall or do insane damage with merciless barrage into final blow, almost all its skills look majestic and it can pack hell of a punch
odachi is great for crowd control/ki damage against humans and feels satisfying as fuck to use but i feel like it provides less options for technical gameplay
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>>386993315
and there is like only one serious spear user in Battle of skill pvp


I wish him luck
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>>386993463
i really don't care about this mockery of pvp to begin with, i'm just here to have fun
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>>386992242
You're probably not using 2kat right because they are fun as fuck.
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>>386992549
>won't get until the second dlc

they drop randomly anywhere

I've found like 7 of them and I've only been clearing WotW, haven't done a single dlc2 mission yet on any difficulty
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>>386985965

pc release????
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Is the season pass worth it?
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>>386993725
what are you talking about? battle of skill is a thing and its plenty of fun
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>>386993913
if you like grinding and minmaxing gear and the combat is enough to keep you interested in the game, then yeah

if you just did a single NG playthrough and then kinda dropped the game afterwards with no plans to play it again, then probably not
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>>386993807
they really aren't
virtually everything they can do, 1kat does better and with way better variety of moves
>two high stance exclusive skills you can't use at the same time
>no low stance skills
fucking atrocious
badass combat stance and master swordsman set are the best things about 2kat
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>>386994212
2kat is SoTC spam
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Are the DC weapons good?
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>>386994212
don't forget
>literally no moves or combos other than GoW -> SotC

>>386994279
1 kat iai speed was buffed
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>>386988723
what game?
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>>386994345
odachi is good, I don't really like them very much, but they're good
tonfas are the worst weapon in the game
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>>386994279
virtually no reason to use it this way when 1kat has 3 iai moves and special ability that allows to zip back on ki pulses
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>>386994350
>1 kat iai speed was buffed
yeah but 2kat SoTC is still faster

and the speed was for the MAXIMUM charge which was barely any different then if you unleashed it just after the flash

not to mention SoTC having better break properties then 1kat
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>>386985965

This whole game.
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>>386994345
Odachi looks beautiful and is fun as fuck to use.
One of them looks like that ugs capra demon was using in ds1.
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>>386994534
that's nice

you still only have one (1) good move with that weapon
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>>386994505
>3 iai moves
the only one thats good is the normal one

tiger run has pathetic damage, and night rain barely moves forward at all
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>>386994625
yeah its pretty op when you stack a star forged skill + master swordsmen set
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>>386993913
>Tfw snagged the season pass for ~$15 during a random discount
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>tfw this, Yakuza, Persona, and Nier haven't gone down in price at all yet
My weebmachine4 is sad
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>>386994673
Isn't the season pass $15 with the deluxe edition anyways? Probably cheaper now even
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>>386994629
night rain was overbuffed so much it shits out enormous amount of damage
tiger run is good for what it is and is easy to buff by using one muneshigger's set item
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>>386994629
night rain is great

you can iai, then pulse sheath to iai again but tap up or down to high or low stance to unleash a night rain instead and it always hits

>>386994663
you can do 400k damage with stacked iai damage thanks to the new grace set
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>>386987489
>>386988020
>>386988952

sooo, that's me. what should i do for being good enough for second dlc? with minumum playing-grinding?
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>>386994212
It's not about the number of skills you can use. God of wind and Sotc fucking destroys everything. Whirlwind is good as well and they have a solid parry too. Low stance has the move that lets you evade while recovering as well which can help a ton and lets you play speedy as fuck.
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>>386994717
JUST BUY THEM ALREADY GODDAMN IT
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>>386990360
Spirit scales most of the things having to do with guardian but you have to look specifically at each guardian to see how it scales with spirit. Magic does not scale anything related to guardians just the omyno magic things
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>>386994801
I can't remember the exact price, but it was discounted a pretty good amount on one of those 1 day Flash deals. I still haven't even beaten the story yet, I'll get to it eventually.
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>>386994663
anon there's a lot of OP things in the game, no reason to use weapon type with virtually one attack of note over, say, kusarigama
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>>386994876
just upgrade your gear LEVELS

if soul matching is too expensive just grab stuff you find
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>>386994717
This is honestly the best short term burst of weeb games that has ever been made. All of those games are so solid
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Beat the normal game, halfway through the next mode then I dropped it and haven't touched it since. If I get the DLC should I just start a new game?
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>>386994951
Nah, I almost always wait until games are 20-30. I'm just sad because it seems I'll have to wait even longer than usual for those,
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>>386994946
>God of wind and Sotc fucking destroys everything
there's a lot of skills that destroy everything on virtually every weapon type (even shit-tier tonfas, i mean they have gunstick devastation at the very least), it's just not something that makes weapon in nioh fun to use
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>>386995025
I main both 2kat and kusarigama and 2kat is definitely better in most cases.
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>>386995143
are you one of those jews that takes heart that one quote from monkey island or something?

like a mantra?
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>>386995094
>If I get the DLC should I just start a new game?

you can if you want

that's usually what I do with any other game, but it feels pretty repetitive and pointless in this one (getting all prestige titles and kodama again, etc) when there's no reason to not just respec
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>>386995060

soul matchmaking cost too high. all my gear are level 150 divine that i farmed from revenants. does my game has autism? or probably i have. why the fuck i only struggle with dlcs.
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>>386995212
I've given a good 50 hours minimum to every weapon type and I disagree.

I main 1kat and kusarigama.
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>>386995229
>150

you should be able to clear anything in WoTsam just fine
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>>386995212
then you're using kusari wrong or have a wrong build
a weapon type that scales of ninjutsu stat is by default superior to every other weapon type in the game, but on top of that kusari has lw reaper, black vine shenanigans, excellent self-buff and excellent specials/moveset overall
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>>386995204
I think it's fun as hell. You also have to get the timing right for god of wind you know.
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>>386995217
Wut? I'm just a cheap cunt, I've bought 2 full price games (mainly for the collector's edition but partly because I like the devs and want them to have the monies) in the last 5 years.
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>>386995229
for soul matching in the future, use tome princess points to avoid cutting too hard into your gold

always use a shitty +anything that has a high level with soul match cost down first before you + the gear further
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>>386993807
2kat is strong, but suffers for variety in the sense that it has essentially only 3 things worth a shit. Windstorm for AoE breaking horns/faces, sign of the cross, and shrike.

God of Wind falls off hard in damage and even ki damage on guard, cherry blossom does less damage than sign of the cross and is far less safe to use, and water sword + random slice are just too situational and tend to work against you.

While I would argue that ultimately 1kat has much higher potential than 2kat, I'd also say that 2kat is much smoother to actually get from beginning to very end-game with. It's naturally tanky with master swordsman armor and the mystic art, what you need drops off a dojo master (who is also the 2nd marobashi master), doesn't require farming ethereals to reach true potential, etc. 1kat's potential is also absurd overkill, so it's hard to really recommend it over something that's much easier to make that still kills bosses in 1 hit and has all of its general needs covered. We'll see how the next difficulty goes though.
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>>386995503
OH

cunt
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>>386995363
getting timing is really not that hard, it's still just a combo and not the best-looking one, i mean it really doesn't have shit on shoving two gunsticks into the demon's face and firing them at once
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>>386995329

fuck the ways, i only want to clear that 180 level dlc missions. i die in 2 hits with heavy armor - no probs i can dodge, but i deal too low damage, comparing to all the fucking game. like all of a sudden i started to deal 80% less damage. i can't damage fucking bosses, using all ninjutsu-onmyo. while playing the normal game, i dealed decent damage and died in 3-4 hits. (some bs one hitted me ofc, but only some bs). my weapon also is divine, 150 level, i have a set bonus, wtf is wrong then? people are 2 hitting shit. as i said, i don't want to be that op, i just want to deal decent damage.
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>>386995352
The footsweep combo is great but only works for humans. Also it takes longer to kill human bosses this way than just using god of wind + SotC. The buff is neat and all but it's not really that great. Reaper is indeed excellent but it's also situational and better for yokai. Doesn't work too well on humans.

>>386995325
Well I've got over 200 hours of maining both of these and they're both great but 2kat's combo is still superior in terms of shitting out huge damage quickly. I'm not hating on on kusarigama or any of the other weapons since I like all of them. Just don't know why some people put 2kat low on the list when it's strong as fuck.
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>>386995701
have you tried getting weaken melee weapons mod on your weapon + devigorate
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>>386995883
It's okay, it's just boring because that combo is the only thing you ever do with it.

I could never stand doing GoW -> SotC for 200 hours (though I've probably put in as much time deleting things with backwave so I'm just a little biased against the weapon).
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>>386995883
>The footsweep combo is great but only works for humans
thing is, kusari has godlike things for both humans and yokai, it has such a crazy variety of everything it's really unbelievable they fit everything onto a single weapon type
pulls alone make it way funnier to use than 2kat, and if you're balls deep into ninjutsu as well (as you should) you can pull enemies into all sorts of traps
reaper is actually way move usable overall than water sword as it's faster to start and faster to end, you can use it to simply slice yokai's back a few times and get in, and in living weapon mode it has enough stopping power to stunlock entire group of yokai so hard they will just helplessly stay there melting
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>>386995883
>>386996268
there are so many amazing things about kusarigama

you can indefinitely spam between high and low stance with flux

high stance is king for breaking yokai horns

mid stance is perfect for chipping down multiple enemies

reaper is usable in living weapon

black vines -> foot sweep -> flash attack -> final blow will delete just about any humanoid, even on WotW, though flash attack will probably only connect with 1kat as your second weapon
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YOU FUCKERS MAKE ME WANT TO BUY THIS GAME SO HARD, god i'm probably not gonna be able to wait for a price cut
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>>386996676
just buy it already
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>>386996676
It's medíocre as fuck
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>>386996612
mid stance also propels you forward on strong attack, perfect for quickly jumping onto someone's ass
and it uses sickle so it gets a boost form mystic art
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>>386996235
Anon, every weapon has fluxing, three stances, and all the ki mechanics. All the weapons have this depth to them and 2kat is no different. Like I said, it's not about the number of skills. I don't know about you but there's plenty of variety when I use them.

>>386996268
No, I agree that reaper is way better. It's easy to get out of the combo and it doesn't have the ending slash that water sword has. But in my opinion it feels kind of cheesy using the chain pull/footsweep combo sometimes. Also, I wasn't really accounting for ninjustu as a factor in determining how good a weapon is. I only used powerpills and kunai even though I had high dex. Either way there's 2 weapons slots for a reason so I never had a problem with varitey or getting bored of 2kat. Also, I would use the shrike for parrying needs and never the kusarigama's parry.
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>>386996847
speaking of propelling, mid stance's dash attack is the best in the game

once you get good at landing it, it literally teleports you 8 feet forward
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I couldn't progress much once I started way of the warrior (or whatever NG+ was called). It wasn't really about skill, as everything I hit just took a shitton more hits to kill while I was being one-shot

It didn't help that this new DLC came out two days after I completed the campaign

Dope game, I love the concept, the combat and some of the gameplay mechanics, but if they're ever to do a sequel I hope they step up their mission design game, Other games get called unfinished because of similar approaches, and in this case it gets very repetitive

Still buying a sequel day 1
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>>386996612
You can indefinitely flux between stances with any weapon. That's what flux is. It lets you keep attacking forever.

Although I never thought about using flash attack after the foot sweep.
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>>386996929
>every weapon has fluxing
but kusari's high and low are made to be mashed into enemies for easy status infliction

2kat's low is the only thing decent for infliction as far as its base moveset is concerned, but even that can't beat into guard and do good ki damage like kusari's high stance can
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Goddamn Defiant Honor was disapointing. The first level was a fucking arrow dodging minigame and WAY too many of the side missions were rehashed shit from Dragon of the North.

Tonfas are fucking worthless too, Jesus. The last DLC better be absolutely ace.
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>>386995884

i don't know about melee weapons mod
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>>386997276
oh it just cuts melee damage to about half, then stacks with devigorate, as well as wind debuff
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>>386997276
he's talking about a stat you can roll on your weapon that gives a percentage chance on hit to temporarily weaken the enemy's melee weapon damage significantly

stacking that with, wind and devigorate is common for tank builds
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>>386997092
Yeah but it can go right into kick, god of wind, sotc. I feel low stance 2kat is the best for discording because of the recovery dodge too. This shit helps a ton when masamune is shitting out tons of slash waves at you. Although I just block since I have enough elemental damage reduction while guarding.
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>>386996834
buttmad p.cuck
where's your petition link?
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>>386996804
I'm probably gonna buy it next week and jump straight into autsimo mode with all the builds and shit
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>>386997576
you're not going to really need to bother with builds and minmax shit until at least NG++

there is a huge spike in grinding for extreme autism once you hit NG+++ though
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>>386997571
Fuck off underage

And this is one game PCfags would rightfully shit on if they ever got a chance to play.

>36 IPs

kek
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>>386997852
Oh it's the butthurt NG fag instead, same thing really
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>>386997852
why are you in a thread about a game you don't like?
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>>386997385
>>386997432

i played the whole fucking game like a souls game. used ninjutsu-onmyo because they are kinda op and new. but now that i come to dlc, i hit the wall, i can't do shit. nice diffuculty spike man. i am too stupid to understand this shit, and i am too lazy to grind. i just wanted to play the dlc, like i played the fucknig game. select mission - beat it - wear the better items. in dlc, select mission - die - rush to the boss - beat it with summons - no better items. nice fun. noice
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>>386997852
This game has better gameplay than any of the souls games though. But pc only retards are only concerned with PUBG, CSGO and Dota 2. They have absolutely fucking garbage taste and don't deserve shit. Multiplatform or bust faggot.
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>>386996676
Just buy it you poor bastard. It's worth the money.
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>>386997984
maybe try respecing with a different setup?
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>>386997984
what the fuck just respec so you can get devigor you dunce
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>>386985965
so how's the pvp for this game anyway? good/bad? dead? how's the netcode?
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>>386997963
>only fanboys allowed! We don't want your kind here! This thread is for blatant shilling only!

>>386997941
>thinking Nioh is relevant enough to inspire any emotion
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>>386997693
Okay, but the gameplay gets me real excited though looks fun as fuck
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Why are tonfa bad? I want to be like the old man in Rurouni Kenshin with them.
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>>386997852
Stay unenlightened.
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Question about this game.
I know it's mission based, so how does the dlc work? Do the dlc missions just appear on the map after meeting certain story conditions?
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>>386998025
Why are you still going on about PC shit? Don only PS4 console wars faggots post in these threads? it would explain a lot.
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>>386998161
pretty dead, netcode is iffy, and battle of skill needs a bit of an item change but is other wise balanced
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>>386998163
How are you today, Oatmeal-san?
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>>386998309
You clear the last story-based base game mission and it unlocks the DLC areas for your current difficulty

the same last base-game story mission also unlocks the next difficulty

repeat up to NG+++
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>>386998436
so the dlc is effectively adding new endgame content so it's not possible to hit dlc missions before story missions.
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>>386998436
Can you only get the DLC weapons in the DLC areas?
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>>386998552
nope, as long as you have the DLC keys, you can get them as random loot
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you think this shit will go real cheap on black friday? I don't even wanna spend £10 on it desu.
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>>386998685
You're a moron
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>>386998363
>Oatmeal-san

Oh, dear, you must have me confused with someone else.

>>386998207
So you want to do fuck all and get your shit pushed in? Seems Nioh's got you covered. You could play that other game with Tonfas...
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>>386985965
Any news of a PC release? I literally got it on PS4, but being forced to choose between resolution and fps on a fucking console is just too fucking degrading.
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>>386998207
>Combos are long which means it takes longer to get the full damage out of a combo unlike the axe and odachi which can get their high stance combos done in a second, and those are the fucking SLOW weapons
>No consistent "Big damage button"
>Pulverize is your main mechanic but it doesn't do good damage and the full animation is laughably long
>Weapon excels at busting enemy Ki but has a hard time capitalizing on it when it does
>Human bosses just block your shit unless you live in high stance
>Urgency doesn't do as much damage as Iai moves but functions exactly the same
>Shit range means you're in the enemies face 100% of the time
>no good parry and don't give me that dragon slayer shit

Essentially, the tonfas are a weapon focused on breaking guards and emptying ki, but can;t capitalize on it when they do. That's the main problem.
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>>386998517
>so the dlc is effectively adding new endgame content
Not just that, but also new NG+ content.

DLC2 added the newest difficulty, which throws enemies from the past 2 DLCs into the base game. It also added a new rarity tier of gear.

Difficulties are cleared diablo style, as in, you can't just start on the hardest difficulty. It's not like there's a difficulty select screen.

I've put in a good 550 hours and still haven't finished the newest difficult for the base game, let alone the DLC, but I'm also pretty autistic about loot farming and loot is also diablo style.

>>386998552
As soon as you have the DLC, they drop randomly in the base game, or anywhere really.
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>>386998764
What other game with tonfas?
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>>386998096
>>386998131

i already use talismans. i have 35 heart, 20 ninjutsu-onmyo, 5 skill, the other are about 15 because of reasons like armor etc. then i started to give all points to stamina, cuz the fucking heart stat doesn't increase the fucking damage, atleast i will wear heavy armor. i already use devigorate talisman man. i beat the game without it but i know about slowing-debuffing enemies. still not enough. a 3 hit combo shouldn't deal less than 5% damage. should i twink my items, make them with better bonuses? or level up? i dunno wtf is wrong.
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>>386998207
the base moveset is way too slow except for low stance
they have horrible tracking
their damage isn't impressive
they are only good in 1v1s and even then, in 1/100th of the effort you could just backwave someone to death with a 1kat
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>>386998207
They're not bad but they're strictly made for 1 vs 1 and take a while to do damage. They just don't have a really strong way to deal out large amounts of damage quickly. This makes them bad for those sub missions where you fight enemies in waves.

I think they're still fun though.
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Hold on.... i need to know something, can you respec in this game ? is it costly or requirement-heavy ?
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>>386999164
You can, and it's next to free.
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>>386999164
>can you respec in this game ?
Yes.
>is it costly or requirement-heavy ?
No.
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>>386999164
you get reincarnation books like candy
you can respec all you want
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>TFW Dont have good build for WOTW
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>>386998845
1:35

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sngninODZDw
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>>386999340
discord will take care of pretty much everything
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>>386998517
>it's not possible to hit dlc missions before story missions
no, you have to clear the last main mission of the base game before DLC unlocks

you can say fuck it to all of the side missions and rush the base game to the DLC if you wanted
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>>386999285
>>386999294
>>386999297
Okay this is fucking great
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>>386999340
Just wear KINGO and Iai things in the ass.
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>>386999565
They even added a way to respec prestige points, so there is no way to irredeemably fuck up anything.
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Currently doing the first DLC and cleaning up the main game in order to get the platinum trophy. Should I use my Amrita on my guardian spirit or keep leveling William? I'm currently using the Ox as my guardian.
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>>386999764
Man, seems like team ninja really nailed a lot of stuff with this game, i hope they will work on a sequel
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>>386999340
full pirate armor with luck inheritables
hikoemon ichimonji with a 19.9% ccd critical roll on the weapon
onikiba for quick change replenishment
hi nezumi + itokuri

99 magic, the rest doesn't matter

6 leeching talismans
4 extraction talismans
4 shadowround talismans
2 luckbringer talismans
6 each of 3 types of elemental shots
3 quick change

cast leeching to get into critical range and give you a huge boost in damage (be sure to have tenacity (recurrent damage) on a piece of armor so you don't die
cast quick change so you don't die
cast extraction and shoot two elemental shots to charge your gauge completely (3 if you're just coming out of living weapon)
keep luckbringer up constantly
have +95 luck during living weapon on both of your accessories

congrats, you can clear WotW with minimal effort and minimal gear investment and you'll always be able to have living weapon running
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I got to NG+ and those "put 2 bosses together and call it a new mission" missions destroyed me and got me to take a break for some weeks.

tf do i do
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>>386999878
They HAVE to do a sequel. This game must have made money for them and they have a fantastic foundation for a sequel. Shit they wouldn't even have to add new weapons, just add new shit to the 7 weapons already in the game, it'll be 8 weapons if the last DLC adds one.
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>>387000813
keep going through NG+ and come back when you have better gear
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