>go outside for a walk >this guy blocks your path What do

>>386980569
Try to figure out what in the hell the shit translation is trying to convey when I confront him.

wait patiently for the remake
thanks for reminding me to check in

>>386980569
a bird statue? i walk past it.
what?

when's the remake coming out?

>>386980569
walk into the backyard and see a slav squatting next to a moleman and uninstall the game

>>386980569
Experience dread and wonder if I screwed up and if so, how.

>>386982230
Devs said this year
>trusting a slav

Catch the plague and die.

>>386980569
Punch it in its dumb beak

>>386980569
Well first, I'd grab him by the beak before he could realize what happened. By the time he says "Oh shit" he's already been flipped 5 times on his back. Teleworking behind him, I use my special kick to launch him into the air before jumping after him, screaming to increase my strength. As he flies upwards, unable to get his bearings, I'll charge up my ultimate punch until my fist glows brighter than the sun, before obliterating him into dust. As I fall back to the ground, I'll shake off my cape to make sure it isn't stained with the blood of my enemies before continuing down my path, whistling The Sonnet of Satan as the rest of the bystanders bow before my ultimate power

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>>386980569
If he wants trouble, I'll go ask my brother for help.

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>>386982972
*record scratch*

What game?

>>386983164
Boku no Plague-o

>>386983164
Trashcan looting simulator

>>386983164
pathologic

>>386982630
>beak
IT'S A TALON, YOU DUMB ACTOR REEEEEE

>>386983164
Water merchant simulator

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYwzxaGD6tg

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>>386983449

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>>386983053
I just started a playthrough yesterday with the purpose of making 4K screenshots of all the brothers and sisters, haven't gone very far yet though

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>>386983690
>>386983053
>>386982972
Is this Void? Never played it, seems like IPL went too far up their own butthole there. Pathologic is the right mix of weird and grounded.

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>>386982834
I'm afraid this isn't that kind of game.
>>386983164
It's not a game, it's a theatre play.

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>>386983690
Try to get some nice action shots as well

>>386983898
The Void is actually their best game, it is a brilliantly designed game. Pathologic just has a few too many ideas at once, not all properly executed.

The Quest for Gravity made me feel sick.

>>386984331
Is it actually worth playing? I tried the demo and didn't really like it too much and it doesn't seem focused at all, unlike The Void.

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>>386983898
>IPL went too far up their own butthole there
Not at all. Pathologic is brilliant, but it sometimes was all over the place and the inexperience of the devs was quite visible. The Void really shows how they learned from their experiences, while staying true to their principles.

On top of that, it has cute girls. Only IPL would be able to make a game filled to the brim with waifus while retaining the harrowing atmosphere and ambience of Pathologic.

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>>386983916
I've gotten some nice shots of the sisters when they... ahem, "eat", but what bothers me when fighting the brothers is that I can't get rid of the UI.

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How's the game? Is it actually spooky?

>>386985645
Yes, but most of all incredibly stressful and debilitating.

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>>386985645
>spooky
It doesn't have jumpscares or any such nonsense.
What it does have is an atmosphere that will break you, mentally and physically, scar you for life, and make you crawl back for more of this sweet abuse.

There's also a remake in the works.

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>>386983449
>walking into a plague-ridden house for the first time

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>>386980569
Listen to whatever he has to say, then get the fuck out of the city, country or even a continent if I can, I ain't staying there to wait for some fucking plague to arrive.

>>386980569
Are there seriously no subtitles for this game? It's 2017

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>>386986117

>>386986184
What is this supposed to imply exactly? I only finished the game as a Bachelor, and only have 1 explanation for why the plague happened.

>>386980569
what's this game again?

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>>386980569
>tried to start this up three times now
>can't make it more than a few days in before I become too stressed out to even continue playing

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>>386986117
>subtitles
>when most of the game is spent in dialogue boxes
Are you feeling dizzy ? Did you breathe the vapors from the steppe ?

>>386986284
THE BULL

>>386986376
Don't even bother trying to play The Void then, it's even more punishing.

Maybe ease into it with Knock-Knock.

>>386986523
Knock-Knock was a little too easy for me.

>>386986614
Then you will have to power through, I hope you are playing as Dankovsky and not attempting a first playthrough as Burakh

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>a cunty """"""""""""artist"""""""""""" architect gets drunk off of his ass on distilled local herbs and somehow creates an object that completely defies gravity and contains multiple dimensions, inaccessible to adults, within itself
>local matrons support this because he's good looking enough for the rural shithole's standards, and because women like to pretend artistry is intellectual as long as it comes out of someone who is at least 6/10
>nature is so offended it spawns a humanity-erasing plague just to combat the object that continues to break basic physics laws just by existing

this is why you should immediately erase liberals on sight

>>386987530
Robust analysis frenlo

Pathologic threads are comfy but for some reason they always die.

>>386986082
You can't, the Town is surrounded by twyre steppe for hundreds of miles that will fuck you up, and the only transport in and out of the city is the train

>>386980883
the HD remake(not the actual new Remake) that came out fixes the vast majority of that.

>>386987864
Because nobody played it and even fewer finished it. It's literally too hard for /v/eddit normies

>>386980569
is this game comfy?

>>386988212
No. At least not until you have a very very good grasp on how to play and what to do.

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>>386986376
>>386986523
While the Void is certainly more difficult in terms of gameplay, I still think it's a better entry point. This might just be me, but playing the Void doesn't feel as harrowing and exhausting as Pathologic.
After completing the first Bachelor playthrough, I was completely burned out, and had an easier time playing the Void than trying to power through the Haruspex route.

>>386987530
That's how I'll describe the plot from now on, thanks.
Only applies to the Bachelor route though

>>386987864
>for some reason they always die
It's a small fanbase. There's always the same 20ish anons in these thread, but sometimes we manage to get some 150 posts or more of good discussion.
But most of the time the thread dies after 4 replies because it's just the wrong time/the wrong day.

>>386988212
it feels like what a "survival" game should feel like. you never get the comfy feel that something another survival game eventually reaches because the moving plague and food prices change daily, along with other things
Making it to the next day always feel like a check off your list as you head back into town for the day.

>>386988475
Well, the first time I played the Void I screwed up like an hour in and had to restart my entire game 4 hours after that, ragequit it for a month. Pathologic on the other hand, lets you recover from most scenarios.

Though I guess The Void is somewhat more pastoral and a bit less oppressive than Pathologic.

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>>386988114
It's not exactly too hard, but the original Pathologic has some pretty fucking big problems. The lack of a proper presentation (coming mainly from the game's engine and mechanical design) and the plot failing to really kick in for the first few days being two of them, but it's no use going into this without straight up deconstructing the entire thing. You can write a fuckton words about Pathologic, and I mean that in both a positive and a negative way, so it's certainly interesting.

>>386988212
Depends on what you find comfy. It is, in the sense that you explore and get to know a VERY remote town in and out, then again it can also be both dull thanks to the copy and paste presentation. There are also times where it's terrifying and you'll be pic rel'ing, but that's mainly somewhere in the earlier days.

Why does everyone say this game is so harrowing and emotionally draining?

>>386987530
Tell me about the man. Why does he clap, and why are his hands so tiny?

>>386989242
It handles the entire "see one thing from three different perspectives" really well and without seeming like a cop-out. It has some pretty interesting concepts and themes in its narrative, as well.

That said, the final "twist" was a bit too artsy fartsy for me and not really all that new when it comes to being potrayed in video games. It's really meta and not that essential to the plot though. I wish some other anons could finally explain to me the truths that you find in Burahk and Changeling routes.

Georgy Kain has gotten infected on day 5 in my game, what do I do? can I save him? what happens if he dies? I am playing as Bachelor.

>>386989596
Panacea.

>>386989596
Give him a shmowder as soon as you can. Didn't you look at your Adherent list? He's essential to Danil, so you must've fucked up pretty hard for him to fall ill.

>>386989857
I didn't get any quests from him on day 4, and the quests I did get I completed. I don't know where I fucked up.
where can I get a hold of a Panacea?

>>386990014
Panacea is a later plot item that I don't even remember if you get on day 5, what you want to do is run around town and look for children. If you're lucky one will have a shmowder to trade with you, they are extremely rare but they cure the plague completely.

>>386989242
The time limit and meters are really strict if you're playing with no help. Sometimes you'll happily give up your only gun just for a loaf of bread. Everyone talks in a strange and dreadful way that just isn't uncanny enough to come off as silly and break the atmosphere. It's really well-written in that aspect with regards to the different character's perspectives: you really start to just hate everyone around you and see them all as incompetent while playing as the cold, rational scientist.

>>386986073
Watching this gif with the music on makes it funnier

>>386990198
Will I have to start over if Georgy dies? if not, is it worth playing on with him dead?

>>386990375
I think it will either fail the day or lock you out of a good ending, probably the second one. How do you not have at least one or two shmowders on you already?

>>386990375
>Will I have to start over if Georgy dies?
No.
>is it worth playing on with him dead?
Yes, why wouldn't it be?

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>>386990014
>>386990375
The only way for him to get infected is if you fail to complete the main quest of the previous day. Can you remind me what happened on the fourth day ?
Worst case scenario, you can still keep playing, but you won't get the """"good"""" ending. If you decide to restart, try to always keep a savefile for the beggining of each day, that way you can easily go back to where you fucked up.

>>386990198
IIRC, you can get a shmowder on the 3th or 4th day by staying inside the "house of the living" for an hour ?

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>yfw

>>386990490
I had to use the one I got from testing the drugs in the plague ridden house. I haven't gotten any other shmowders. Maybe I should just restart the day?

>>386986184
I almost shit my pants the first time I saw this.

>>386990585
the 4th day you have to setup the Isolation ward at Lara's house, but it turns out the watersupply is fucked. I told big vlad to fix it, I guess that was the wrong move?

>>386990585
As the anon said, I think the developer intention is for the player to get infected since the plague is hard to avoid in-doors and then you use the shmowder on yourself. The children should definitely have one though, if not the ones outside then some in the non-infected or empty houses that you can lockpick into.

>>386990829
I honestly can't remember, but I think that quest involved multiple things so you might've fucked one of them up. Plus, keep in mind that there are multiple objectives per day sometimes and it's worth checking if you've gotten a new letter at any point. Just restart day 4.

>>386990829
Is that the one where you have to get the keys for the cathedral and theatre? I think that's all you have to do for that day, and then reporting back to Big Vlad finishes the quest.

>>386991067
I didn't get the keys, I just told big Vlad to handle it. I thought he was able to do it by himself, I even got the 3 asterisks on the quest. I guess that was my mistake.

>release game
>release HD version of game
>remake game
This and Outcast. What's the point? It's basically an admission that nothing else you have, or could, make is worthwhile

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>>386990829
In case you don't know, when a quest in your journal is marked with three stars in the last paragraph, it means it's completed. So, you can always check if there's still something to do : if there are no stars, you're not done yet.
And if the quest isn't activated yet, don't forget to check if you recieved any letters.

>>386990963
You missed a free powder you can get the first day on a sidequest for Lara.
>>386991345
You get completed even if you fail. You had to get a couple keys if I remember well, if you didn't do it yourself that means one of your bound had to do it for you, thats why they get sick if you fail.

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i'm never 100% sure whether or not pathologic's become super mainstream by this point or 5% of /v/ just happens to really like it

does vladeworth still show up around these parts?
>>386991345
when in doubt, always check the official walkthrough

https://www.pdf-archive.com/2015/11/01/path-walkthrough-eng/

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>>386991409
HD mainly adressed the issues with the original translation, which was terrible, so it was absolutely necessary if they wanted people to play the game. The newest remake aims to address the biggest issues stemming from the gameplay itself, Pathologic is badly designed if we're being honest.

But if a game is worth playing in spite of its objectively bad design, I think that says a lot.

I shit all over games which I didn't find interesting or which had fundamental flaws in design, yet I can't do that after spending 20 hours with this. I also shit all over cases where a remake is unnecessary, I REALLY don't think this is one of them.

>>386991740
>Pathologic is badly designed if we're being honest.
Strong disagree, though it is not as tightly focused and brilliant as The Void.

>>386991552
Its probably due to the recent steam summersale. I saw the game mentioned, and bought it, to try it out.

>>386980569
What was this game called again? Should I play it?

>>386991809
I think he meant bad gameplay wise.

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>>386991552
>5% of /v/
If only it was that much. Then again, I suppose that's also the reason we're able to have such comfy threads. And vladworth hasn't been seen by anyone in years now, I hope he's ok.
Anyway, is that Alphyna in the picture ?

>>386992102
I disagree with that too. Controls != gameplay

>>386991740
>>386991740
>badly designed

Its extremely well designed, the problem was its translation and its legit high brow story/writing which translated into shit english.

Now thats mostly fixed with the HD remake. Its only bad game design you could argue is going in blind, chances of beating it as bachelor(lol considering anyone else first time) you will NOT make it.

The quest logs need to be less cryptic is basically what im saying.

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>>386991448
>tfw people still post your guide

>>386987530
I prefer the tale of a son returning to the homestead, to pierce the heart of corruption found in the bull, the bull, the bull, and the bull.

t.Rat Prophet

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>>386992065
i've noticed it's one of those *obscure* games everyone on /v/ buys and plays for like 5 minutes just for street cred

i'm sure one day i'll actually finish a playthrough that isn't as the fucking bachelor
>>386992117
ye it is
i've been wanting to get in touch with him in the vain hope that he still knows how the fuck to edit pathologic dialogue, i've been wanting to fix some typos and the only people who know how to do it are either mysteriously gone or never made that much progress

Anyone has a torrent? I just stumbled upon this thread and the game seems neat, tried google but no luck

>>386983426
wut
I didn't play the game, how's that a talon?

>>386992442
pathologic HD should be on TPB scrub.

>>386992442
Buy it you degenerate, these are GOOD developers.

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>>386990586

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>>386991809
It doesn't put enough focus on its presentation, that's why you literally get copy and pasted NPCs sometimes standing next to each other. It's not immersion breaking per se, but it does take a toll on the game.

It's also designed in a way where it becomes painfully obvious that, aside from trying to survive while going from point A to B, it's mainly about going to these points and talking to people. Nearly every problem and major movement happens and gets solved off-screen between all the dialogue, and the only thing you really deal with is with the set-up and result of something, never the middle part. It's hard to explain in detail without having someone play the game first, plus I could probably point out more if I had a more recent playthrough.

It has side quests, some actually fairly disinct, but it feels like they very rarely deviate from the above mentioned design due to all of the walking. It has some really good design in there as well, so I don't know if calling it all "bad" does it justice, but that's what I'd sway towards after 20 hours.

>>386992273
The design being bad doesn't make the entire game bad, imo. I'd even recommend it to people and consider it extremely worthwhile, just with a big three journal *** of previous explanation.

>>386992572
>Nearly every problem and major movement happens and gets solved off-screen between all the dialogue
Except you know, the whole thing about the plague and the survival of your adherents. The fact that the bulk of the themes are conveyed primarily through game mechanics is one of the games key strengths.

>>386992572
I think the issue you are arguing comes from budget. Yeah copy pasted NPCs in what is an amazing atmospheric game aside from that, is a big offput, but only because its so great in its presentation aside from that shit.

The game is heavily about the writing, not so much the gameplay. Thats why its not for everyone. It honestly feels like a "walking simulator" with gameplay in it, except the actual walking simulator part is extremely interesting. Its not a fun game in terms of its combat, but a fantastic game in everything else it offers, as well as actual fantastic survival mechanics and gameplay.

>>386980569
>bird
>clearly has huge compound eyes and is wearing a beak mask to conceal his true insectoid form.
almost got me this time, but not quite BUGMAN!

you are now unable to unsee this

>>386992417
I guess this was the game but I don't remember most of this that I am looking at right now. I remember seeing it on G4 and thinking the atmosphere was pretty cool but I never played it or anything. Looks like there is a ton of dialogue.

>>386992854
>except the actual walking simulator part is extremely interesting. Its not a fun game in terms of its combat, but a fantastic game in everything else it offers, as well as actual fantastic survival mechanics and gameplay.
This is contradictory, the gameplay is actually one of the strengths of this game if you understand that controls != gameplay and that combat != gameplay.

>>386992961
it has A LOT of a dialog, and its one of the few games, at least since the HD re-release, is high brow writing.

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>>386992907
highly worrisome

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>>386991740
>>386991809
>>386992102
>>386992189
>>386992273
Considering that almost nobody at IPL had gamedev experience prior to Pathologic, it's a miracle that it turned out as well as it did, both in gameplay and design. But you can't deny that some things just fall flat, and you can't explain away everything with
>it's part of the experience
To be clear, it IS a masterpiece. But a flawed masterpiece.
In some cases though, the shortcomings were caused by time/money limitations, such as Claras route being less fleshed out.

>>386993025
thats why I put combat in its own category vs the other gameplay and called the latter really good. Combat isnt very good, its not well animated, has very little oomph behind it, and too easy. Its all the other gameplay involved that does a fantastic job.

Combat in Pathologic reminds me of Deadly Premonition, a means to an end, but all the other gameplay both games do is vastly superior and truly make the games.

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>>386992961
i honestly had no idea pathologic was on g4 at one point and now i'm actually really interested

i'm guessing this isn't on the internet at all, anywhere

>>386993180
Yes I agree that it is flawed, in the sense that there are quite a few too many ideas (and I'm not talking about writing) present and not all executed well. The Void on the other hand is flawless imo.

>>386992714
>Except you know, the whole thing about the plague and the survival of your adherents. The fact that the bulk of the themes are conveyed primarily through game mechanics is one of the games key strengths.
I agree that it's a strength, but even if a game conveys something through game mechanics well, it doesn't mean all of these mechanics are fun to experience. Survival is done correctly and leaves you grasping for supplies each day, especially the price fluctuations as the plague finally hits. Same with the plot reinforcing that maybe someone coming down with a plague is due to them failing mentally as well as physically, and Dankovsky or anyone else being able to help with that, but everything else I found lacking to a degree. How big of a degree depends on the individual thing.

>>386992854
>I think the issue you are arguing comes from budget
And developer experience, absolutely. Which is why I'm happy that a proper remake is coming out.

>>386993025
>if you understand that controls != gameplay and that combat != gameplay
Can we at least agree that improving both of these, all while fleshing out the town in ways more than just verbal, would lead to a more coherent and tight experience?

>>386993481
>Can we at least agree that improving both of these, all while fleshing out the town in ways more than just verbal, would lead to a more coherent and tight experience?
Absolutely, I am excited for their remake especially after experiencing The Void and seeing what they're really capable of.

>>386993389
ill need to try the void. I really like artsy fartsy games when done correctly and not up its own ass.

I have heard the main dev/founder is kinda a pain to work with, one of the devs made a pretty convincing post on /v/ about a year ago working on pathological/void/pathologicaremake.l(convincing as in he sounded like he did work at the studio)

Which would make sense because these type of games kinda need strict design sense. Dev didnt say he hated the guy, but just a challenge to work with.

>>386993626
Well a lot of these guys seem to be very much ARTISTES and I can see how that would be challenging as compared to regular corporate nerds.

>>386993626
>one of the devs made a pretty convincing post on /v/ about a year ago working on pathological/void/pathologicaremake.l(convincing as in he sounded like he did work at the studio)
Have a screencap or a summary of what they said?

>>386993970
nah, it was just in a casual pathologic REmake thread.

Was just kinda like going over how the founder likes to have a lot of control on very minuscule things, and change things, but ultimately meant well. It came off as the dev was more experienced in his work than the other guy, but would respect his changes or critique, even if it was frustrating at times. Never came off as like "I fucking hate the guy"

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>>386993626
if anyone's interested, dybowskiy (aka ipl's founder) answered a bunch of questions in an old forum thread like years ago
http://forum.ice-pick.com/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=11477
seems like the official forum's slowly dying and some posts got fucked so i'd read it before everything else is gone

>>386993265
Well actually I am not entirely sure if I did see it on g4 or not. It may have been on one of those fringe shows they had not called x-play or maybe it was x-play idk. I could have swore I did first see this game on tv though.

>>386994116
I think it is because a lot of IPL are not so much "video game people" as artists who happen to make video games.

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>>386992417
>knows how the fuck to edit pathologic dialogue

Well. It's not easy. All the gamefiles, including but not limited to,
>script (dialogue)
>music, voice files and SE
>textures
>character portraits
are easily found, but they're VFS archives, so you need a tool to extract the data from the archives. I think I found it on the forums, but I should still have it on a hard drive somewhere.
For sounds and pictures, that's all it takes. For the dialogue, however, there's another layer of fuckery.
The relevant data is stored inside a file with no extension - the filetype just shows as FILE. When you look at it with something that directly reads the hex code, or even just notepad, you can indeed see all the text from within the game.
This is where the fun begins.

For a reason I can't begin to imagine, every other character in this file (i.e. one out of 2 letters) is blank. For example, "bachelor" would be
>bNULLaNULLcNULLhNULLeNULLlNULLoNULLr
This makes it a huge pain to read and edit.

HOWEVER : I did find a kind soul who coded and put a tool on github that would extract the dialogue. Haven't bookmarked it, but I'll try to find it again. This is where I gave up though, because I didn't know how to use the .py files there. But if you can figure it out, ( I guess you'd have to compile the code through a python compiler ? Idk..), then you should be able to edit the dialogue.

Now please tell me what your picture says.

>>386990586
>when you flirt with the Inquisitor as the player
>when it turns out her crush on the Harsupex is only because he's being played with by you
I do not have a face that can adequately express that emotion.

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What do you guys want from the remake? Aside from a slightly more focused and less vague writing, more complex sidequests, more variety and detail to the town, being able to run faster, less rushed Klara route, more items, better combat, etc? I couldn't even pinpoint what I want the most from it.

>>386994538
I think if they really were pure artists people would dislike Pathologic more than they do. From the few recent interviews on different sites (all can be found browsing through Ice Pick's twitter) it actually looks like they like a few really classic games, like Thief. So they are more "gamers" than 90% of /v/.

Could see someone getting that feel from the Void though, but I found it more experimental and "deep" than Pathologic, so it's not that weird to me.

Thanks for the high-resolution picture quest, Void anon. I had some shitty un-aliased screencaps from a while back but lost even those to an external HD crash. Always helps to shill the game if you have some pretty shots to go along with it.

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>>386994436
i've seen pre release videos floating around on the internet but nothing that mentions it showed up on g4 or x-play, i'd be surprised (and fucking ecstatic) if it did
>>386994652
you mean this?
https://github.com/somevideoguy/pathologic

i'm pretty sure he never actually released anything, he just managed to make some sense of the shitty file structure. i know they worked with meradorm on a translation patch and that meradorm's still active on tumblr but i have no clue whether or not they're still in touch, vlad's still semi active on steam but i really don't want to bug him there

the fun part about wanting to fuck around with pathologic dialogue is that i don't know a word of russian or any cyrillic :^)
>>386995026
i know dybowskiy loved the shit out of thief, but he brought up undertale in an interview once so i'm guessing that'll rustle 99% of /v/'s jimmies

what game

>>386995026
I don't mean that they don't play games and such, they clearly do (hence their choice of medium) and have some truly patrician influences such as Action Forms and K-D Labs. What I mean is that their mindset is regardless that of the artist, moreso than that of the programmer or businessman, if that makes sense (not that these types can't also make truly great video games; see John Carmack)

>>386995381
>but he brought up undertale in an interview once so i'm guessing that'll rustle 99% of /v/'s jimmies
Undertale is a good game. /v/ has a retarded tendency to dislike something because of its fanbase, and yet we've all gobbed up and sucked Undertale's dick when it first came out. That behavior is nothing new here, you have to always take /v/ half seriously because of this, and it's because the potential of this place lies in threads about things only slightly popular, or not at all.

>>386995478
>What I mean is that their mindset is regardless that of the artist
I can see what that entails, it's just that I inherently believe that a game that doesn't try to be fun to play on at least some level is worthless. Ice Pick's games usually don't fit into that, and the Marble Nest ticked all the right boxes, fortunately.

>>386995026
>What do you want from the remake
If we're straight up just wishing for things, I'd love an ugly, gritty, recoil-in-horror sort of combat. For close quarters, at least. Scalpels going in eyes, bones breaking through the skin. Not cause I like that sort of thing, but for that extra feeling of dread and anxiousness when it has to be done. I don't want to think of killing muggers as a quick and easy way to get cash and loot.

Firearms can still be fine. While we're at it, some good voice work goes a long way for pain/sickness/dying/fun times.

So basically what I really want is for the game to make me feel AWFUL.

>>386995823
Oh yes I definitely agree with you, but that is what sets IPL apart from so many other "art" developers, they ACTUALLY UNDERSTAND their chosen medium and aren't just sad rejects that wish they could make films instead.

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>>386995823
>we've all gobbed up and sucked Undertale's dick when it first came out
nah i'm guilty of that too. basically every internet community's a giant echo chamber anyway, it's not like /v/ or 4chan in general is any different
>>386996048
i love a good narrative in video games, i'm the kind of pretentious faggot who loves """art""" games, but i hate shit like walking simulators because they aren't actually doing anything with the medium at all, i've seen people eat up shit like night in the woods when that game could've been a fucking movie and it wouldn't have made a difference

i can safely say that pathologic is the best survival walking sim i've ever played

>>386996443
>that image
Why is he so perfect, actors?

>>386996443
Danil's one liners in the Marble Nest certainly reinforce how unwilling to deal with the town's bullshit he's become. Makes sense, considering he's dead.

>>386995823
>we've all gobbed up and sucked Undertale's dick when it first came out.
Talk for yourself, the game completely lost me on Alphys and that shitty Final Fantasy 6 reference.

>>386990693
why

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>>386993626
>>386995478
Let me tell you a bit about Nikolay Dyboswki.
The idea for Pathologic came to him in a dream. He used this idea in a tabletop RPG session with his friends, and it worked so well that he tried to adapt it as a theatre play (his degree is in Literary Arts or something like that, nothing to do with vidya).
However, he felt that the whole thing hinged on the spectators interaction; therefore, the best possible medium would be videgames. And so, with no experience whatsoever, he founded Ice Pick Lodge, wrote a manifesto to express what exactly his goal was (http://ice-pick.com/en/manifesto-2001/), found a couple of likeminded madmen (no gamedev experience either), and made pathologic.

From what I gather, the hierarchy with Nikolay at IPL is comparable to George Lucas with Star Wars : if he wakes up and thinks the game should be so-and-so, he'll say it, and his minions get to work.
Except that Nikolay isn't a hack

>>386996048
Precisely. When people say
>can/should/are videogames art
somehow it always boils down to : is it CINEMATIC, is the story MATURE, does it have PHILOSOPHY. They always seem to think that videogames as "art" entails imitating other art forms, instead of building on that which is specific to games, and can only be conveyed by games.
>>386995201
As I said earlier, I only started yesterday. Once it's done I might upload them to mega or something, so if you check the archives for IPL threads in a couple of weeks there might be a link for the whole set. Maybe.

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>>386996620
bachelor's great, but we all know who the real stud is
>>386996693
i don't know if it's alphyna leaking into the script, all i know is that i welcome the snark

if you fags could please keep this thread up for another 20 minutes i'll love you all forever

>>386996762
I got lucky because I assumed Alphys is a guy based on his design, and then couldn't go back to seeing it in a different light. I managed to outsmart any of the SJW bullshit by being a retard.

>>386996780
I don't know, it just got me I guess, I didn't think zooming out the map would do that.

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>>386996828
Also, pic very much related

>>386996828
Will be waiting warmly for the pics. How do you get yours to look like that, anyway? Force graphics settings in the grafix card panel?

>>386996895
I didn't even get to see the lesbian crap on my first playthrough because I killed gayttaton, I hated Alphys, the lolsorandum robot and the blatant references and the game just ended like one hour after that so it left a pretty bad taste in my mouth, following the dick sucking analogy.

>>386980569
I chat up mah boi Executor, we catch up on old times and go for a beer.

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>>386996965
Anyone have that one with them telling a joke about the guy with frozen feet who thought the devil was chasing him? Fucking Russians, I swear.

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>>386995381
>the fun part about wanting to fuck around with pathologic dialogue is that i don't know a word of russian or any cyrillic :^)
Well, I would have reacted differently : I wouldn learn Russian, solely for the purpose of playing the games in their original version and also to travel to moscow and have tea with everyone at IPL. It's not too late, r-right ?

>>386996965
It's not Pathologic related, but all these people mentioning Thief just make me sad that Thief is what it is nowadays. Especially since I'm under a delusion where it feels like I could fucking make a good Thief game if given my own developer team. The game's core design is THAT easy to replicate.

>>386997167
Well, not everything is for everyone, that's all I can say. Pathologic sold me mainly on how the survival aspect was realized, how remote and crushing the town's atmosphere was and the interesting writing, I imagine it's the same with most people.

So going with that train of thought, when it comes to Undertale - it was entirely the combat system. Maybe try looking at it from that perspective, I don't know.

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>>386997260
Here you go Oinon.

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>>386996828
>that manifesto
Good lord this fucking studio

>>386997625
Thanks, Actor. I forgot it wasn't a joke, it's every bit as surreal as one.

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>Seeing Plague Angels for the first time

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>>386998337
Many many things were unpleasant in this game, those perhaps the most.

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>>386998337
>getting infected by one from behind
>getting infected at all just by walking into a strategically placed cloud

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>>386997109
Full AA and resolution in the launcher, other than that nothing special. Though, now that you mention it, maybe I could tweak some more things in the nvidia settings.
I just wish there was a console in the game, so I could noclip and get the best angles.

>>386998497
Plague clouds are my less favorite thing about the game.

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>>386998337
>hearing the arsonists scream before the sound bug was patched out

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>>386992417
Any Russianon in this thread ? I really want to know what the pic says...
I can make it out phonetically, but that doesn't help if I don't know the words.

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>>386998572
>best angles
>provocative pic of Yani
when you find her in bed in her domain I swear if you were a little bit faster or could noclip you could peek up that dress
n-not that anyone would want this

>>386982230
This Fall TM
Haven't posted a Kickstarter update in two months, but this isn't the first time they've done that.

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>>386998808
I like how the vague faces appearing in the clouds are never really explained, at least as far as I know. You'd think the clouds would be designed to look more inviting and harmless, but I guess it wouldn't matter if it hadn't been for people like Burakh or Dankovsky. Or Klara.

Don't know why these and the angels (latter more so) are so literal.

>>386999076
It's because the plague was sent by God to punish us for our sins, kind of like GRIDS

>>386986514
THE BEAR

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>>386997369
if alphyna does it full time, then so can you
the thing is you'll probably end up like vladeworth ;-;
>>386998497
>quicksaving the second before getting infected by a plague angel
>>386998572
i'm pretty sure the void runs on the same engine as pathologic, so i don't know why it wouldn't have a console?
>>386998958
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>386999236
>imblyng god exists in the Pathologic universe
Nah, it's all nature and shit. And the kids.

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>>386998971
For shame, anon. The sisters aren't for lewd.
They're only for ascending.
And only one of them. Which do you choose ?

>>386980569
Boring Walks:The Game. I love exploring everything in games I play and I love different stories and mistery, but the slugish and dull gameplay killed the game for me. I liked the plot, but the game was a chore to play for me, it would be much better as a visual novel.

>>386986284
basically you're inside a cow that has AIDS

>>386999379
Well it is analogous to how our God created GRIDS to punish us for our defiance

>>386999940
...don't know what I expected from a route that's centered on Burakh.

>>386987530
>women are dumb as shit
>lol kill liberal men

>>387000104
Not him, but nu-males enable the dykes.
LET'S MURDER THE THREAD

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>>386997423
Thief, Legacy of Kain, Command&Conquer... Plenty of sad stories like that.
That's why I always prefer games/series that manage to end in a satisfying way, over those that stay open to sequels just for the sake of making sequels. Even the best of games can leave a bitter taste, retroactively, if the sequels have ruined the setting.

>>386999667
Ima, azure and emerald. Her tower is amazing for atmosphere and the way she gets hopeful after you fill the third heart fills my heart in equal measure.

I wish I hadn't forgotten what each Color meant. Azure was like suffering, but tinged with hope, I think? Like pain with a light at the end of the tunnel. Also something about the passage of time? Fuck, they were all really cool and a nice change of pace from the usual RED MEAN ANGERY

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What is the Rat Prophet?

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>>386987530
>>387000104
If you actually think about it, the "plot" is very similar to Deus Ex

>>387000476
That's only one side of the plot though.

I actually started playing this 2 days ago (currently at day 3, I think) and I am loving most of all the atmosphere, but the writing and concepts seem so cryptic and the combat so shit (I know it's not the focus) it makes me wonder if I should keep going without walkthroughs. What would you suggest?

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>>387000652
Dankovsky's plot***

>>387000661
Avoid walkthroughs if at all possible unless you're desperately stuck, it ruins a lot of the good parts if you know what to expect and when.

Part of the reason the writing and concepts are cryptic is because everyone in town is being deliberately vague and cryptic to you (assuming you're playing Bachelor), it's intentional if still confusing. The fun is in piecing together what's actually going on, and it honestly is worth it.

If you can strike up some good trades with the kids you can get a healthy supply of bullets early on which makes your life a hell of a lot easier for combat, otherwise just stay off the streets at night, quicksave often, and cheese if you've gotta.

>>387000661
Run away from fights whenever possible, read your letters, read your journals, refer to >>386991448 for help with basic functions.

>>387000002
It doesn't exist, though

>>387000394
>the straight women are complete idiots
>nu-males and dykes are at fault

>>387000661
day 3's when the game starts to get gud - i'd play through that day before i'd consider dropping it

>>386998958
The pic says "Pathologic"

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>>387001539

>>387001101
>>387001113
Thanks, I love mysterious and dark games like this one and it's good to know it's got a worthy ending.

>>387001321
What exactly did you mean by this?

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>>386999370
>i don't know why it wouldn't have a console?
Well, it probably has, but I meant to say that I don't know how to access it, and even then I wouldn't know the proper commands.

>>387000453
>Azure - the color of suffering and inner pain, but with an indispensable, strong shade of hope to it. The color makes you more sensitive to time.
>Emerald, or simply green, is the color of patience and self-control, the color of awareness, the color of greed, the color of dedication to rest and balance.

I always get the names mixed up, but I'll have to go with Eli - simply because of that awesome blimp

>>387001983
http://forum.ice-pick.com/viewtopic.php?t=9044

i should probably play the void at some point

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I need to catch some sleep, thank you all for another magnificent thread, actors.

>>387002105
Oh. Well. Now I feel silly for not even googling it.
This might improve things a bit.

>>386987969
Is it really better? That was the one they gave out for free?

Just started day 9 and I'm so fucking sick of this game.

>>387003205
Working as intended.

>>386983304
trying to run away from rats and getting stuck on the god damn step outside that one food shop simulator.

>>386998958
>>386992417
>So, I am you! And with a brother, and with you we merged into a singe person in fires of this catastrophe! Flames of war smelt us into one, triple bullet!.. It's natural. We, are one. Three sides of a single process... Go to Capital, together with us!!!
>Alright.
>...where'd my milk go?!

>>387004684
Jump is mapped to the space bar, Onion.

>>386997625
Here is Russia or russian writers in a nutshell
>the winter was cold, like my father.

>>387004789
ay thanks

if any iplfags want to band together and fix some shit in classic hd then drop a note

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>>387004789
thanks based anon.what is the bachelor saying? or is "where'd my milk go" just an incredibly efficient phrase in Russian?

>>386980569
>going outside
>ever
Your premise was flawed from the start

>>386992417
Now I feel like trying to learn russian again, if only it wasn't nearly 5 am, and my head did not hurt and my feet weren't plagued by hitching.

I never finished Pathologic because the walking speed made me feel crazy.

>>387005458
whats going on in this picture and who created it?

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>>387005952
one of the things ipl's taught me is that misery always produces the best art

>>387005952
you can change the walking speed with console commands
>1. Open up the console during game by pressing ' (that key before the number 1 on most keyboards).

2. Write uspeed 1.33

That means walking speed will stay around 33% faster in the game. Adjust to higher or lower according to your preferences. Notice though that the whole game world move faster, including enemies and time itself. If you want to walk faster but make the world in its default speed, insert this line on console:

gt_speed 3.3

This makes time (and only time) go slower. Again, adjust as you prefer (though this time the higher the number the slower clock gets).

One important note though: Eventually I went back to uspeed 1.15, as I felt higher speeds detract from the game experience. So my tip is: Go ahead and experiment with it, then try to reach a midterm that doesn't feel boring tp you but do.not degrade the experience so much.

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>>387005458
This game had so many underrated lolis

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>>387006437
degenerates out!!!

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>>387006321
This changes everything, is the console working since the new version? Because I remember looking it up.
Thank you kindly, next time, soon, I may finally finish this game.

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>>387006437
false, worst fetish

this game had only one true hunk

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>>386980569
>play this game
>get walking and words simulator

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>>387006178
I don't know who made it and I'm too lazy to do a GIS since I'm a cancerous mobile poster at the moment. If you look it up, let me know.
As far as what's happening in the comic, ammo can be a rare commodity in game, and the best way to acquire it is to barter for it with children who wander around the town. Some of the lines you use to initiate bartering are questionable, like "What's in your pockets, pumpkin."

>>387006791
I can't say for sure if it works with the hd remake, but it was posted on the steam forums in November 2015, so it probably does.

>>387006986
You should play the Bachelor's scenario for a little longer than the first two hours before casting judgment.

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>>386984747
Nameless sister is the best sister.

I read once that a few game mechanics in the Void aren't actually implemented, was/is this the case?

I played game as bachelor and haruspex and I still have no fucking idea where the plague came from.

Someone please spoil me.

>>387007539

Fuckin' signed

>>387008251
Are you retarded?

>>387007620
Apparently, using too much of a specific color would have a negative effect on the world depending on which color you relied too much on.
Probably for the best that they did not put it in.

And is it just me, or is it rather brilliant that none of the brothers in the game pray to the color gold when you battle them?

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>>387005952
Walk forward and strafe at the same time. Thank me later, it's how you'll be moving through the entire game.

>>387009081
diagonal movement, your speedwalking friend since Morrowind!

>>387006258
Didn't Dostoievski said that at some point?
Fucking Russians.

>>387009162
Cyka blyat!

>>387009142
Not to mention the Haruspex quest that all but requires walking diagonally or you run out of stamina

I am pussy bitch. how2 Void?

>>387007125
that just makes it sound like you're mugging a kid for candy

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>>387009142
Only 80's kids will remember this.

>>387009142

Was a literal lifesaver in EverQuest since you could outrun most mobs with diagonal movement when they would otherwise match your speed.

>>387009779
You caught me, I'm a '94 baby.

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>all he wants is to TOOT and DOOT
>memes with *record scratch*
was he /our guy/?

Goodbye actors

>>387009142
Executor: Lara is infected.
Bachelor : Here's a schmowder, it will cure them.
Executor: A schmowder? It will cripple them for life. it will burn all their insides along with the plague. Are you sure you want to save them at this cost?
Bachelor: Yep.
Lara: Oh hai Bachelor, can you get me a gun? I want to assassinate the General.

>>387010958
She also offers you her panacea for the gun.

>>387011180
fucking roasties

>>387012089
Lara is sweet and innocent!

what's the most reliable way to get schmowders? somebody said the kids in the houses you have to lockpick have them but I'm not having any luck.

>>387012703
Their inventories are regenerated upon leaving and re-entering the house, if you really want to game it. Find a house with 3-4 of the youngest children (only they carry them), and you'll get one eventually.

How difficult is pathologic? I gave the void a shot, but never finished it.

>>387013353
Much easier than The Void, but still pretty hard, in a non-meme way unlike say, Souls games.

>>387012703
See >>387013025
Also in my experience the houses in the center district where Olgimsky lives has the best chance, but that's just my experience. I'm 100% sure that only the blonde girls carry schmowders though.

Im only able to play this game every few months because its so stressful, but I keep coming back because its so good.

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>wake up
>Pathologic thread is still alive
You did good, samebros

>>387013997
Good you are here, can you keep it up while I go to sleep brother?

>>387013997
I'm just grateful you aren't calling us "actors", shit is cringe as fuck.

>>387014132
everyone laugh at this fucking doll

>>387014132
what a fucking puppet

>>387014269
It's a stupid meme that spoils the game.

>>387014356
Googames get remembered, but memes never die.

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>character claims to be a doctor
>only has a bachelor's degree

>>387014604
He specifically claims to NOT be a doctor.

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Is all of the food good to eat in the game? or will some of it give me the plague? the flavor text on them makes them sound dubious.

>>387014604
He's not a doctor, he's a researcher, and he invented a meme science that can aims to end death, so he became a laughingstock and Powers That Be likely cockblocked him from moving further in academia

>>387014720
No, whether you buy cured fish or fresh fish or milk, it's gonna stay good forever despite the description. Likely a mechanic that was planned but not implemented because it would be too brutal.

Did anyone else notice that the music that plays in the interior of the Polyhedron is from Eureka 7? I felt like I was going insane with how familiar it sounded. Did the music guy just straight up steal the song or something?

>>387014720
it's all safe

>>387014720
Nothing will make you sick, it's just disgusting and depressing.

>>387015186
Copyright laws don't apply in the Polyhedron.

>>387012703
I didn't even need shmowders. By the end I had 2 shmowder and 6 panacea and I was panicking that I might not have enough for all the adherents, but only 6 people were infected. I gave Aspina shmowder anyway because fuck her. Anyway, was I just lucky or something?

>>387015186
it's probably a situation where they changed the song just enough to avoid a lawsuit.like doom.

>>387015936
Eureka 7
https://youtu.be/Iemlj3zoqW4

Pathologic (at 23:16)
https://youtu.be/7eIjqpMJ-L8

>>387016312
I guess you could say that was....
ostentatious.

>>387013482
>but still pretty hard, in a non-meme way unlike say, Souls games.
Not sure what you mean by this.
Anything that I should be aware of before starting?

>>387016312
Somebody on the IPL staff likes anime. I'll let you in on a secret about media here in Slavland - licensed foreign IP is constantly used in commercial products, likely without original owners ever learning about it.

>>387016491
BUY
FOOD
ON DAY 1
SPEND ALL MONEY

>>387016491
RESOURCES ARE IMPORTANT
TIME IS THE MOST IMPORTANT RESOURCE
SAVE OFTEN
IN DARK SOULS, YOU JUST NEED TO MASTER ROLLING

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>>387016491

>>387016491
dude lmao just trade your guns for money

>>386992462
He is a finger, his beak is his talon

>>386994891
No joke. Never could tell her what would happen on day after the end.

Any good let's plays for this game?

>>387017849
SulMatul

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gib remaek now

>>386982230
Its supposed to come out this year but expect next

>>387018001
Why?

>>386997814

Fuck you, Pluto is a planet so add it back in you niggers.

>>387017849
Pathologic Classic HD: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLzDeS-SWRIMNjvA8lXqLNMUn31sKszOjm
This guy is pretty competent and never spouts memes like most LPers

>>387018223
Pluto is a planet like your cock is a penis.
It's a micro-planet.

>>387008251
They unleashed it from the soil when they were installing the bigass spring which holds the Polyhedron upright.

>>387018642
how was it in the soil if it quickly dies out unless it's in a living host?

>>387018813
see >>386986184

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>>387016312
>>387015936
>>387015186
It's a sample from a song called "La Pura Verdad" used in the movie "Traffic" according to comments on the E7 video. Both the E7 and Pathologic composers likely paid for its use.

>>387018813
By the power of magic, metaphor, mysticism, miracle, and the metaphysical.

>>387018813
Ah, the whole game is bull.

>>387019161
Forgot link, here's the original song starting from 25:39
https://youtu.be/g00Ik31r5eQ?t=25m39s

>>387019295
meant for
>>387018889

>>387019161
Ah that makes sense. I was sort of suspecting something like that, especially given that Eureka 7 and Pathologic basically came out at the same time.

I won't be able to play this on PS4, will I?

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>>387015009
>And he invented a meme science that can aims to end death

So it worked?

Some questions I was wondering about:
Did the Bachelor stay with the townspeople forever or did he leave? His gf killed herself and his other babe became a witch, so I doubt he stays for long.

Do people who die from the sand plague go to heaven or purgatory?

>>387019858
>people

>>387019951
Extras in the play of life, if you will.

>>387019858
Also:
Are the masked figures human? Aglaya refers to them as if they're real, but nobody else notices them or anything. Are they just part of the actors' minds? If so, is Aglaya CIA-ing into their brains?

Is the playwright really the devil like the Bachelor said?

>>387019673
probably not but any computer made within the last 10 years should be able to run it pretty well. The graphics are basically upscaled ps2-tier shit.

>>387019858
Despite having finished it recently, I'm not actually sure what souls normally do upon death and if anything particularly special happens when the plague kills them. Maybe you get more clarification in Haruspex or Changeling's paths.

Don't worry about Eva. She just became a building. You can meet her again on the final day.

>>387020281
>masked figures
They're stagehands. They give the actors directions.

>>387020346
I only played the Bachelor and after i have beaten the game, I felt the need to wait for a year to play the game as Haruspex.

>>387020431
>played as Bachelor
>12 years ago
Get on my level of wanting to play other campaigns but putting it off

>>387019673
Think the remake/reimaging is going to be ported to consoles.
But no, not the original or Classic HD Remake.

>>387020514
You probably don't even want to play it again.
I believe you just accepted the best ending.

good night my fellow pretentious cunts

>>387020609
I want to play as Changling, but that means installing the game and doing the Haruspex. Does he have an interesting campaign?

>>387020992
I only played Batchelor lol

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>>387020992
Haruspex was great, especially the early game and harvesting organs was fun

pic related

>>387021465
What does he do with the organos?

>>387021501
You sell them to weirdos in the steppe in exchange for herbs, which can then be made into medicines or sell them to the hunchback for bandages. By the late game you will have acquired so many organs you pretty much never have to worry about getting sick.

I was starving at one point and resorted to killing people so I could buy bandages and heal myself.

>>387021636
That's cool. Shame I almost never use the pills and such. Waste of inventory if you ask me.

>>386995823
>Undertale is a good game
No it's not.
It's without challenge for 95% of it (the key point of a game is challenge) other than like three fights.
The only good thing about Undertale is the music.

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Bachelor is such a cool guy, he's pretty much my idol. How can I become more like Bachelor?

>>387022371
Buy a snakeskin coat. Where can I buy a snakeskin coat?

>>387007308
Bachelor route stays pretty boring until around day 4/5 when shit starts getting out of hand.

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Wow, the thread is still going ? That's impressive.

Is there a way to run faster in this game that I'm missing?

I feel like I'm on a god damn time trial if I don't make it around the town in time which this slow run speed doesn't help.

>>387023443
Move diagonally.

>>387023443
Apparently strafing diagonally while pressing both forward and side buttons makes you a bit faster

>>387022371
You seduce a girl and you move in to her place and wait for her to kys so you get not only her house, but another qt

>>387022371
Become nihilistic, with a wicked sense of humour

>>387022371
Lose your smile n drop some latin citates

anybody got a link for the OST?

>>387024392
You don't even need the soundtrack. The songs play automatically in your brain while you're walking in the city.
Mokra krpa

Ding
ding

Suha krpa

Imagine....a SS13 style game where players take on the roles of the trio and town powers and further their agendas while begrudgingly cooperating with each other to keep the Town alive.

>>387024698
SS13?

>>387024767
Autism Station 13.

>>387022269

Nah. It's a pretty enjoyable game in all aspects

>>387024031
The new qt may not be human though.

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>>387025461
Don't be so picky.

>>387024698
>Bachelor - Engineering/Atmos
>Haruspex - Doctor
>Clara - changeling

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I played this game 6 years ago and I still remember every crevice of the map. There's a shop to the left.

>>387024392
It is in the game files.

is this game fun
i feel like if i play it im gonna get 3 hours in fuck up and have to restart but i dont know why i think that and its just keeping me from playing it

>>387027336
>is this game fun
No
>i feel like if i play it im gonna get 3 hours in fuck up and have to restart
Yes