Theres Finally a Game about True To Life Dinosaurs

except it didn't have feathers

>>386977925
Realism has never made a single good game. Fuck off with your buggy, shitty AI, multiplayer lacking, unfinished EA hipster trash.

>>386978023
yeah they did

I don't know why people deny shit just because they don't like it

>>386977925
Hope it flops. Fuck featherfags

>>386977925
>multiplayer lacking

good point nobody wants to play with roleplaying furries faggots
>LOOKING FOR A BULL TO MATE PLS
fuck multiplayer

>>386978317
No they did new research and it never.

>>386977925
>true to life dinosaurs
has it ever occurred to you that dinosaurs weren't fucking real?

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>>386978484
Dude.

>>386978484
>earth is flat
>there is no moon
>my dick isnt small

yeah sure

>>386978317

>This fuck thinks he know when only 10 years ago (if that) it was "OF COURSE they didn't have feathers." as a "fact"


Just because you like them with feathers doesn't make it anymore true.

>>386978317
lol no.

>>386978397
No multiplayer makes sense when you have an actually interesting campaign mode or very good AI, your hipster shit has none of this, so congrats on your dead blunder game.

>>386978317

Fossilized surface area was discovered, they did not have feathers.

>>386977925
>angry chirpin

>>386978465
That's a sensationalization of what actually happened.
Tyrannosaurus skin was discovered, obviously animals with feathers have skin.
Tyrannosaurus's most complete relatives are feathered

>>386978602
>your

now it's mine ?

>>386978560
i bet you believe the universe is infinite you cuck

>>386977925
That t-rex looks ridiculous and kinda cute.

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The only dinosaur game anyone should be playing is pic related.

>>386978696
Yes, fucking Saurian shill, no one cares about those meme games anymore.

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>>386978484

>>386978828
>Not Primal Carnage
Opinion discarded.

>>386977925
>thoroughly proven facts
There isn't enough evidence one way or the other as to prove how they fucking looked or what they were covered in, especially if you're looking at each individual species you absolute fucking retards.

>>386978828
That game is complete fucking garbage, fuck off, the last good dinosaur game we had was Carnivores 2.

>>386978393
Featherscum ruined dinosaurs.

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>>386978835
first i've ever heard of that game
you can chock on it buddy

>>386978980
So cover them in scales like godzilla? Theropod dinosaurs being scaly all over would be a speculative assumption since every single most well preserved one is feathered

>>386979142
source

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>>386977925
>wanting feathers or fur on your giant reptile monsters
i don't understand how people can have such fucking shit taste

feathers are a meme

>>386978980
I really enjoy ark, the gameplay only gets bad when you accept the grind and someone tries to do pvp on the large scale
Terribly unaesthetic at that point

>>386978638
What didn't

>>386977925
Stop shilling faggot.

>>386978317
Its an exaggerated claim. Thats the short answer. But I think you already knew that.

>>386979204
I bet people in the future will bitch when its discovered that grizzly bears had fur like puppies

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>>386978317
Where are the feathers?

>>386979229
Just play on higher rates Anon, default rates are for wizards and people who play nothing else.

>>386978397
>nobody wants to play with roleplaying furries faggots
>not wanting to have fun harassing and making those autists ragequit.
Gee, its like you hate fun.

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>>386979336
MFW ankylosaurs are finally discovered to have feather'd underbellies or small tufts like an elephant

>>386979365
these faggots ruined primal carnage with their faggotry
you cant find anyone on deathmatch only roleplaying srv

>>386979139
>t.forum mod looking for PROMOTIONS
DEAD GAME.

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>>386977925

Do people not know what theropods are? Not every single dinosaur had feathers, the same way not every dinosaur clade are ancestral to birdies

>>386977925
Tyrannosaurus was not that extensively feathered, that feather pattern is nonsense, and it likely didn't have lips. They said on twitter that making the dinosaurs accurate is not their priority. Move along until there's a game that wants to portray dinosaurs as the actual animals they were.

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>>386979568
Actually newer studies about pterosaurs have fibers on their bodies similar to dinosaurs may suggest that feathers are an ancestral trait to archosaurs entirely, crocodiles merely had them transition into scales similar to bird feet

>>386977925
>Proven facts
If you go by the philosophy of science book, science isn't in the business of "proving" anything.

Philosophical nitpicking aside, paleontology specifically tends not to involve "proof" by everyday standards either. There are some exceptionally well-preserved specimens from which you can make reliable and complete reconstructions of extinct animals but for the lot of them you're in business of filling in the gaps as complete skeletons are rare, and that's to say nothing of soft tissue, behavior and such like. Consequently, there are reconstructions that have been falsified by direct evidence but there's no reconstructions that have been "proven" to be "factually right", and while pop-science shows fully reconstructed animals, a lot of them are known only from several bones (actual scientific publications are far more transparent in this).

As for reconstruction in OP, it has been pretty much falsified and is now obsolete. Recently two studies were published, one studying osteological correlates in T. Rex skull, and another detailing skin impressions in base of the tail, ilium and an unknown part of the neck. It is unknown what kind of soft tissue it had in parts of the body not covered by these findings (the reasons for suspecting reconstructions like the one in OP are still there, based on related species etc, so T. Rex having a fluffy coat and other similar hypothesis are still in the books, but fluff in its neck is directly contradicted by fossil evidence).

Here's a summary: http://markwitton-com.blogspot.com/2017/06/revenge-of-scaly-tyrannosaurus.html

>>386979478
Ive been hearing this argument over a year now, and the people who uses it are the people who abandoned the game long ago instead of supporting the few but active TDM servers out there.

>>386979359
I was a wizard then, until the devs doubled the base rates awhile back
I play custom rates on my own server now
Higher node durability (# of hits) and longer respawn time to make it so if you clear an area out you get a lot of stuff, but you'll have to branch out farther if you need more and can't wait
I just enjoy building things

>>386979585
Animals who are feathered are all extensively feathered. Stop trying to compromise to appease Jurassic Park fans.

Dinosaurs were fluffly like chickens and dogs and bears and all other large groups of warm blooded animals.

Even dolphins and elephants have fur

There is literally no fucking escape from the fact that dinosaurs are feathered.

If people keep bullshitting they'll jinx it and its only a matter of time until a preserved ankylosaur or sauropod is uncovered with feathers cementing that the grouping Dinosauria was entirely engulfed in feathers

That is not a future I want

>>386979272

T-rex and some raptors and dinosaurs.

>>386980146
You're talking complete nonsense.

>>386980307
Every single raptor had feathers. If you disagree you literally do not read

>>386977925
I hope they treat the T-Rex like the carrion feeder it is.

The thing is a slow moving, lumbering, giant with incredibly good scent that would allow it to smell a corpse from miles away.

>>386980395
Whaddya except from this site.

They hated him because he said the truth.

>>386980146
JP is what gave dinosaurs any relevance in media in the first place.

Everyone ITT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wq0mWxumeqo

Probably won't be accurate either. None of these idiots know how the feathers or the down would have looked. And many dinos did not have it. It wasn't a universal thing.

>>386977925
>Saurian is a game made by paleontologists using actual research and thoroughly proven facts
So how fast do they move in-game? Real T-Rexes couldn't run.

>>386980420
Tyrannosaurus eating carrion was never even a theory, merely a suggestion by Jack Horner which he himself doesnt even back

>All these faggots crying because their JP monsters aren't real

With Markiplier playing this feathered dinosaurs will finally dominate cultural relevance

I honestly really like the way the Dakotaraptor looks. That feather pattern is pretty cool, especially on the tail.

I think they went a bit overboard on the Rex though. Especially with the recent skindentation discoveries. I don't mind it having feathers, but the ones it has now just don't seem like they'd make sense on a theropod of its size.

>>386980915
Who?

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>>386978484
>has it ever occurred to you that dinosaurs weren't fucking real?

>>386980915
>Markiplier
Literally the lowest Youtuber, period. His voice makes me contemplate self-harm. It goes beyond annoyance. It feels me with despair and a loss of love for living.

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>>386978767
where does the universe end?

If you say anything other than a detailed explanation, your argument is moot cuck

>>386981375
Why ? my peenus weenus of course haha

>>386978921
I hate to admit it but the devs for PC are probably even bigger jews then Wildcard because the only people they are profiting off of these days is small autistic children for RP servers.

>>386980146
You're a loser who probably faps to NTR

>>386980576
Caring about accuracy in a fucking videogame of all tings is the most retarded, creativity limiting concept i've ever heard of, there isn't a single factual way a videogame can benefit from trying to be accurate other than just being a limit it does nothing to improve a game.

>>386979764
Well, that's not the whole story either. It's a legit possibility, but that kind of modeling is very sensitive to details like whether or filamentous bodies were a trait present in basal pterosaurs and that is completely unknown seeing as that no transitional fossils have been discovered, never mind such well-preserved ones that they'd show soft tissue (and anyhow, it's worth remembering we're dealing with probabilities here, not concrete evidence).

From what I've seen, the most recent analysis suggest species in Avemetatarsalia are ancestrally scaly and that fluff evolved several times independently (Pterosaurs, Coelurosaurs, one or more Ornithischian groups covering species like Psittacosaurus and Kulindadromeus). Although some mutations certainly appear to have been present that made fluff easily evolvable (changes in β-keratin).

http://rsbl.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/11/6/20150229

>>386980915
Who?

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>>386978484

>dude muh feathers
>I'd rather be a furfag than a lizardfag

kys a dino was uncovered fully preserved and it didnt have feathers now fuck off

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>>386977925
> Tyrannosaurus is inaccurate
> Ankylosaurus is inaccurate
> Mosasaurus is inaccurate
> Triceratops is inaccurate
> literally no gameplay
> runs like shit
> at least two of the team are insufferable douchebags, probably more

>>386981375
The universe is a four dimensional hyper-sphere. In the same way the earth as a sphere has no end if you travel in 2-dimensions it only comes back around on itself so does the universe. You can travel any of the three dimensions and you will come back to the same point. The only difference is the universe is expanding at a rate faster than light.

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>>386977925
Let me guess, this is some bullshit that a college professor is trying to fund through Indiegogo.

I want a Dino Riders game. That would be the shit.

>>386977925
>Saurian is a game made by paleontologists using actual research and thoroughly proven facts
lol no it fucking isn't.

I don't understand where the "All Dinosaurs had Feathers" bullshit comes from.
There are a few dinosaurs that very likely did, in the Archeopteryx and pals, but why would any others?
Shit doesn't evolve for no reason. Archeopteryx and pals developed feathers because having pieces of aerofoilic material on its body helped it leap and glide at shit.
What the fuck does it do for a Tyranosaurus, or a Triceratops, except cause them to waste nutrients growing them, and provide a safe haven for parasites? For the Archeopteryx, feather-like structures provided a benefit that outweighed the detriment. No amount of feathers are going to be anything other than irrelevant at best, or an actual detriment to survival on an Apatasaurus.
Even if feathers first evolved on a smaller theropod, they would have evolved out of later species that didn't have a need for them.

Does the fact that some fish have lungs mean that all fish should? Does the fact that some arachnids have pincers mean they all should? Does the fact that some rodents have broad, flat tails mean they all should?

>>386981532
PC:E devs are untalented trash who sold out the concept and takes advice from underage normie retards without any experience to "balance" the game so my expectations for the series are gone, they had a great thing coming with the first game but they shat all over it, killed everything that was good about it and sold it under a new name, this is why you don't trust hipster jews .

>>386982061
How dare you bring logic to /v/

>>386981861
Every fully preserved, and I'm talking ZERO missing parts PERIOD dinosaur was feathered

>>386978767
The universe is not infinite. At any given moment, there is in fact a determined size of the thing. However, the Universe is continuously expanding. Whether it will continue expanding, or stop at some point (and be pulled back inward due to gravity) is one of the ongoing questions we don't have an answer for yet.

>>386982182
Source where?

>>386982061
The problem is if the only fish truly understood had lungs it would be illogical to assume they had anything else for the sake of being conservative

>>386977925
Can't wait to see it flop

>>386980395

You're like those people who are throwing a fit they might call pluto a planet again.

>>386982335
>Archeopteryx
>Velociraptor
>Yutyrannus
>Sinorinthosaurus
>Yi Qi
>Guanlong

The other ones that havent had feathers were all incomplete

>>386981884
If the universe is four dimensional why isn't there any four dimensional movement? From a third dimensional perspective the basic laws of thermodynamics would have no meaning as mass an energy moved in and out of our range of awareness and basic rationalization would be hopelessly beyond us.

>>386982593
Link the source then fag.

>>386977925
Speaking on Dinosaur games, has anyone played Jurassic World the Game?

>>386982672
If you want to make detractive statements you're going to have to google shit

It is pretty comfy.
Reminds me of what I wanted Spore's creature stage to be.

>>386982061
Proto-Feathers have been found in basal dinosaurs.
Pterosaurs have a 'hairy' body covering.
Its likely the Archosaur common ancestor had some kind of fluff.

Feathers serve a lot of purposes other than flight. Aiding in thermal regulation, sexual displays, some small amount of protection (make an animal look larger than it is). They were around long before modern flight feathers appeared.

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>>386982787

>>386981861
Psittacosaurus was the first ceratopsian discovered to have feathers. Before that discovery it was assumed that only theropods and maybe some sauropods would have had feathers. Raptors absolutely had feathers, and the most complete tyrannosaurids do too.

That uncovered dinosaur doesn't even belong to a group speculated to have feathers. The best you can say is that it's unlikely many carnosaurs had fathers as we have not found evidence of feathers on them. But only unlikely, because the definitive evidence of feathers on relatives makes having feathers a much safer assumption.

>>386977925
Modern science is nothing but a fucking meme, only through conflicts real science and inventions can develop. Modern science is nothing but proof lacking concepts, pointless revisionism and self fellatio.

>>386983018
I'm still seeing no source from these feather fags

>>386982749
Playing it since last year senpai
>tfw missed out on the Segnosaurus
It is such a cool looking parrot too

Does anyone else have the game already?
I just downloaded it.

>>386983162
You would have to literally avoid looking any of this up to deny any of it


If you don't, you're clear, I admire it

>>386983152
>pointless revisionism
That's what you're supposed to do. If you find evidence conflicting with your previous assertions, you modify it. Better that than sticking your fingers in your ears and drowning out anything that says you're wrong.

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>>386978828
fuck you

>>386983548
Modern science lacks a purpose. Its no wonder why so many people been looking back at more humanity fulfilling institutions lately. Atheism failed to be the new standard at the end, we don't care about proof if it has no use for anything, i rather have my cool looking giant lizards any day over you gay pride looking giant chicken.

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>>386982061
Actually, bony fish do have a structure homologous to lungs (the swim bladder). It has simply been repurposed, something very common in evolution.

Similarly, while basal birds like Archaeopteryx and the most closely related non-avian dinosaur species like Microraptor used their feathers to fly or glide, that's not the reason fluff first evolved. Indeed, several distinct stages of feather evolution can be observed (it's worth noting that all of these stages are still present in extant birds) and only stage 5 feathers are usable in flight.

For example, Yutyrannus Huali, a 2-ton tyrannosaur species not too closely related to birds, is known to have had stage 1 and 2 feathers. For Yutyrannus, fluff was definitely used in thermoregulation (as it lived in climate with average annual temperature of 10C) and that might have been the reason fluff first evolved, but it is not known when that happened so the reason also remains in mystery (it might be many other reasons, from sensitive whiskers to sexual selection). It might have been the last common ancestor of modern birds and crocodiles (with crocodiles losing their fluff, or "re-evolving" scales, just like scutes in bird's feet actually appear to be feathers arrested to the earliest stages of development), or it might have been the last common ancestor of pterosaurs and dinosaurs or fluff might have evolved several times independently after a mutation in beta-keratin protein made it easy (>>386981674).

Moreover, while the size and coverage of different types of filament evolves readily, once evolved, the species may be stuck with it (just like vertebrate retina is backwards): even whales, despite having lived in environment in which hair is beyond useless for ~60Ma, have some.

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>>386984208
>>386982061
Now, all dinosaurs weren't (extensively) feathered. MOST dinosaurs weren't extensively feathered and there's direct fossil evidence of extensive skin impressions for groups like hadrosaurs. But fluff might have been a trait present in the first dinosaurs and if that's the case, all dinosaurs would have inherited the potential to be fluffy (there's fossil evidence of fluff from both sides of the dinosaur family tree, from Saurischia that modern birds are a part of, and Ornithischia, from species such as Kulindadromeus). And as far as groups such as Coelurosauria are concerned, there's direct fossil evidence of feathers in all clades within the group (tyrannosaurs, therizinosaurs, oviraptors, dromaeosaurs aka. raptors etc) and unless there's evidence to the contrary, it can be presumed the rest of the Coelurosaurians were fluffy for the same reason they can be presumed to have had eyes despite no eye tissue surviving (their descendents and relatives also have eyes/feathers), a technique called phylogenetic bracketing.

>>386984118
You can have your cool looking giant lizards, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megalania and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosasaur existed after all.

Boy am I glad I stopped caring about dinosaurs a long time ago, fucking autism central.
I will, however, take solace in the fact JP more or less said in its last movie, that 'actual' dinosaurs (or rather what they think dinosaurs are at this moment) wouldn't fucking sale. Found some kind of giggle from that straight forward admitting and telling you to fuck off about that

>>386982016
Fucking YES! I've been saying this for a while. I want to capture, train and ride dinos with armor lasers strapped on them.

>>386984482

There are skin impressions of bare flesh, its both stop being a bitch.

>>386985945
What sucks is that now that we finally have the technology to make a fun game with all of this, large studios simply dont care about dinosaurs anymore and indie devs are stuck in pointless debates about dinos being feathered or not, which divided an already small fan and costumer base.

>>386977925
>true to life dinosaurs designed by furry feather paleofaggots
Goddamn I hate these DINOSAUR HAS FEATHER faggots

>>386986089
I found a bird leg without feathers, birds must not have feathers

>>386986089
I don't even know what stance you think I hold

Reading this thread is like watching a special on the history channel

>>386987809
Exception dinosaurs actually existed and aliens aren't involved
Fucking Ancient Aliens.
You know for a plot thread as common as 'they kicked me out of the scientific community for my radical ideas' it seems incredibly difficult to ACTUALLY get blacklisted in it.

>>386986251
True. It wouldn't even be that hard. Take a game like Battlefield, change the vehicles to dinos, add more vehicles/dinos, reskin everything, and add lasers. They could even go so far as adding base building elements like Fallout 4 or ARK. "oh shit, we captured a T-Rex but we don't have a structure to hold it until we can add a brain box" so it just goes feral again. Or it could be like the cartoon and you have to set a trap for it.

>>386977925

I'm not playing a game about giant chickens, what the fuck.

>>386977925
is that mccree?

>>386979532
It's true though?

i thought the t-rex was a reptilian dinosaur not a avian one?

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>CMD+F
>Operation Genesis
>0 results
It's like you hate good dinosaur games.

>>386977925
Adult T-Rex did NOT have feathers. Only younger ones to stay warm, but they lost them as they grew up. There is no such thing as a 15m chicken.
How many fucking times do I have to say this for you faggots to understand?

>>386987508
What about a bird with their leg, neck, chest, and base of their tail without feathers

>>386978317

Please backup claims with research.
http://rsbl.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/13/6/20170092
Only place that might have feathers was back, but all other skin samples they had did not contain feathers. They don't think the back was feathers either.

>>386988407
Furries want feather dinosaurs because they're mentally disturbed people who want to have sex with animals, so probably never

Why does the feathered dinosaur argument always fucking fall on the tyrannosaurus like it's the only dinosaur to have ever existed. There is literal proof of a feathered dinosaur thanks to its tail being preserved in amber. No, not every dinosaur would have had feathers, but some of them clearly did.

>>386988604
t. furry

>>386988692
Fuck off, Canadian.

>>386988604
>There is literal proof of a feathered dinosaur thanks to its tail being preserved in amber
Where? I want to see it. Post salsa or pictures.

>>386988560
>>386988778

Further reading on the feather study.
There's one 30 ft dinosaur they have found.
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/t-rex-skin-was-not-covered-feathers-study-says-180963603/

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>>386988778
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2016/12/feathered-dinosaur-tail-amber-theropod-myanmar-burma-cretaceous/

>>386988970
>hair is now feathers
also, all of that shit inside the amber, holy fuck

>>386982641
What a bunch of nonsense.
Your argument doesent matter since that stuff would happen beyond the edge of the observable universe anyway.

>>386988895
>>386988778
>>386988604
>>386988574
>>386988560
>>386988407
>>386988401
According to the new study earlier, smaller cousins to the trex had feathers, but they were all much smaller. We don't know whether most species had feathers or not

>>386989084
Better call nat geo and explain why it's actually hair and not feathers

>>386977925
>people are so salty dinosaurs aren't lizards but rather birds

>>386989435
No see, being right isn't up for debate, one is just right, which is me

>>386988970
So when are we getting a real life Jurassic Park?

>>386989317
>>386989435
>>386989486

Sorry guys, unless you back up your claims with research I'm going to stick with the Giant Lizard theory.

>>386988604
>Why does the feathered dinosaur argument always fucking fall on the tyrannosaurus like it's the only dinosaur to have ever existed
Probably because most threads like this are started with a stupid chicken Trex in the OP

>>386988104
Or just make a Battlefield but you fight dinos. I'd buy it and shill it for all my friends

>every feathered dinosaur specimen comes from China
>China doesn't allow actual scientists to verify their work
The concept of feathered dinosaurs was created by and for China to make U.S. dinosaurs lame as fuck.

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>>386988307
Tyrannosaurs and modern birds for example have a common ancestor but tyrannosaurs aren't ancestors to birds, neither are Dromaeosaurs or Troodons. Instead, to the current belief, birds, troodons and raptors share a common ancestor in basal Paraves from early Jurassic (all commonly known species like Velociraptor are from Cretaceous so they've had about a hundred million years to diverge from this common ancestor and aren't bird-ancestors either, even if closely related). Basal dinosaurs and basal Theropods were also fairly small and lightly built, gigantism exhibited in groups like Tyrannosaurs, Allosaurs, Carchadontosaurs etc. rose independently several times but being fairly small is the ancestral condition to theropods so the last common ancestor between a budgie and allosaur for example would have been contemporary and similar to species like Coelophysis.

Dinosaurs are gay as fuck bro

>>386990621
I want nu-males to leave.

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>dinocucks

>>386991008
>>386990621
sup samefag

I'm glad I live in a timeline where feathercucks got btfo

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>>386991183
Try again atheist.

>true to life dinosaurs
>T-Rex with big fluffy feathers.

T-Rex would have had needle-like proto-feathers at best and even that is fishy science.

>>386977925
>REALISTIC Dinosaurs!
>slightly different totally random guess at the soft tissue
>feathers

>>386989284
>Your argument doesent matter since that stuff would happen beyond the edge of the observable universe anyway.
Not that anon, but why does not "seeing" it make his point invalid?

>>386978547
>>386978560
>>386978864
>>386981165
>>386981809
young earth creationism is still the official dogma of most abrahamic faiths. they just avoid speaking of creation at all.

As impressed as I am with how much people in this thread know about dinosaurs, can we talk about the actual game?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdKGvsRTkQE

At the moment, you can only play as Dakotaraptor, but the other 3 will be playable soon, and in the future there will be multiplayer and 2 new playable dinosaurs, which is great!

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1379624404/saurian-an-open-world-dinosaur-survival-experience

here's the kickstarter so you can see what's gonna come in the future

Has anyone here played Fossil Fighters?
Which is the best vivosaur?
For me, it's Salada.
For non-DLC vivosaurs, it's definitely Pachy
And my favorite super evolver is Giga Spinax