>80+ story missions

70+ go there shoot that missions
10 actual story missions that have story and maybe a couple cutscenes

>>386975025
Will this have big "open-world" maps or will it be similar to the first game?

>>386975025
>more than 80 missions with "the wizard came from the moon" and "I have no time to explain why I have no time"
GREAT

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>>386975025
>80+ story missions
>only 1 endgame mission

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>PS3 and 360 no longer hold the game back
>decrease about of players in PvP from 6v6 to 4v4
>kill off all the interesting modes like mayhem which allowed 8v8 and free for all
>no customs even though there were added very late to the first game
>world map is still isntanced and at best you'll only see like 4 other people at once
>chasing the e-sports audience
>removed the third subclass
>expansion pass will once again be shit tier content cut from the game to be sold back like crota and wolves
>30fps on consoles even though the game is not graphically intensive at all
>removed grimoire cards
>added pre-rendered cutscenes for the epic capeshit audience

These are the same people who made jumps in quality from Halo CE to Halo 2 to Halo 3. They literally just shat out what could be considered a big expansion pack.

>>386975956
this. i just dont understand why bungie would waste a huge game world on such a tattered story.

>>386975025
Warframe's looking different

The first story mission in the beta was pretty fun.

Glad to hear it.

>>386976876
Because the original writter left one year before the game was ready and they had to rush a shitty story mode.

Why do they call it a beta when it's already releasing next month?

Posting it again
>4 planets at launch with the beta being 25% of the game
>Loot Cave existed for some time
>Literally over a dozen concurrent currencies at one point with Ascendant Energy, Shards, Glimmer, Motes, two types of Marks, various Coins, various Cores, and various Materials
>Legendary/rare engrams used to grant Uncommon gear
>Faction packages used to often decrypt into 2 Motes of Light
>Exotic Weapons, with 3 damage upgrade slots, had upgrade grinds of infinity and beyond
>Consistent infinite range one body shot kill weapons in the Final Round Efrideet's Spear existed at one point
>Random infinite range one body shot kill weapons in the Luck in the Chamber Eirene SR4
>Instant death Vex Mythoclast existed for 2% of the game's lifespan
>Fusion Rifles were repeatedly nerfed for the remaining 98% of the game's lifespan
>Still did not stop Pocket Infinity from being an instakill machine for nearly a year
>Three/sometimes two shot anywhere Thorn dominating the meta for months
>Potential two shot hand cannon in Last Word dominating the meta for months
>Potential one shot kill hand cannon in Hawkmoon existed at one point
>Two to three burst Pulses like Hopscotch and Hawksaw dominating the meta for months
>Doctrine of Passing dominating the meta for months
>Felwinter's Lie, Party Crasher +1, Matador 64 dominating the meta for 80% of the game's lifespan
>Conspiracy Theory D dominating the meta for another 10% of the game's lifespan after the above shotguns were nerfed
>special weapon ammo nerfs ended up buffing Ice Breaker to dominate the meta for the last 10% of the game's lifespan
>Bladedancers were unkillable for some time
>Voidwalker Nova Bomb was almost literally a mobile version of the Titan's FoH
>Titans got a subclass with 7 Nova Bombs in the Sunbreaker for some time
>This expanded to 21 Nova Bombs for a week or two
>Sunsinger Warlocks were able to use the Ram to stop Golden Gun shots for some time

>>386977260
>Titan bubbles can potentially generate more orbs than their cost and fireteams were able to completely cover maps in Titan bubbles
>Stormcallers had sniper rifles built into their hands for some time
>Sticky grenades able to home from a meter away
>Primary school tier story in the vanilla game for around 8 hours featuring lines like "I don't have time to explain why I don't have time to explain"
>Low tier Marvel movie story for 5 hours in Taken King featuring 50 quips a second, zero suspense, and a dumbed down villain
>back to primary school writing for 3 hours in Rise of Iron with moments like Saladin having some giant earth shattering epiphany about how the Fallen haven't learned to master SIVA
>Good lore with plenty of thematic and literal connections to previous Bungie games hidden behind online cards
>Raid final boss Atheon could be pushed off the map with a few grenades
>Dark Below was $15 for like three worthless story missions, the worst strike in the game, and the worst raid in the game
>House of Wolves was $15 for like three worthless story missions and a wave defense mode
>took over 2 years for barebones private matches with less options than Halo CE's customs to become a thing
>Unbelievable "throw money at the screen" fiasco
>release of a new expansion essentially made previous versions of the game worth $5 (or, in NuBungie terms, $24.99)
>I didn't even mention the more subjective/BTS things like Salvatori's solo music paling in comparison to Marty collabs or how previous Bungie employees like Staten, Marty, Griesemer, DeLeon, etc. were treated like trash

>>386977175
Because it gives you the idea that the game's unfinished and only getting better from here on out

>>386976963
That fucking strike sucked though I thought we past making strike bosses that are just regular enemies but big

>>386977340
>this is the same company that created the Marathon series, one of the greatest stories told in video game history
>this is the same company that created Halo CE, the game that revolutionized shooters and has one of the strongest (if repetitive) campaigns in FPS history
>this is the same company behind Halo 2, which basically started matchmaking and console multiplayer
>this is the same company behind Halo 3, which broke games into the mainstream and released at launch with Forge and Theater Mode
>this is the same company behind Halo Reach, a game whose customs and Forge mode created more multiplayer options in the first two weeks of the game's lifespan than Destiny had for 3 years
Listen, I idolized Bungie pretty hard. I defended the controversial aspects of every Halo game (even though I felt that they declined in quality from the start- opinions may vary).
After playing through three years of Destiny, I can safely say that the old Bungie is dead. When even Halo 5, 343's Frankenstein version of Halo, outgrew Destiny in terms of multiplayer content I knew it was over and playing the Destiny 2 beta only reaffirmed my disappointment. Seeing people praise the bare minimum story mission included in the beta made me really wonder if these people had played through The Pillar of Autumn, Cairo Station, Sierra 117, Mombasa Streets, or even Winter Contingency.
But that's exactly it- I realized most actually didn't play through them. The gap in time between Halo Reach and Destiny 2 is legitimately larger than the gap between Halo 2 and Halo Reach. Most will just look at the intro mission and say "that's so cool! Cinematics! There are NPCs with dialogue in scripted sequences! There's a hint of a set piece! Cayde is so cool!"
To the NuBungie fanboys who I'm sure will read this post, play the Halo games and ask yourself if you really think anything in Destiny 2 looks to come to that level.

>>386977345
>the game's unfinished and only getting better from here on out
But it's finished?

>>386977434
>deliberately removing the first half of the sentence to change its meaning

>>386977260
>>386977340
who are you quoting?

>>386977676
NuBungie

>>386977260
>>386977340
>>386977413
Bunige is dead the only guy that workd on halo that's left of is luke smith and he only worked on 3

>>386977260
>>386977340
That's 90% pvp complaints.
I wouldn't have cared about any of those things if bungie hadn't gotten the great idea to make the game worse for everyone, including pve content.

If pve bosses in D2 will be bulletsponges with stand here, press button mechanics again, I'll flip some shit

>>386975025
I just love the gun play in it so much. Buying it day one and having fun because I live 4v4 more than 6v6

>>386975025
Loadout is locked to 2 primaries and a special. Oh fun. Sign me right up for another 3 years of nerfing fun PvE stuff in the name of PvP.

>>386976575
>these are the same people who
Almost no one with any relevance to the good Halo games works at either Bungie or 343i, and it's been that way for a long ass time

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>>386975025
ACTUALLY, this is misinformation. 80+ activities, NOT just story missions. D1 had about 40 at launch for comparison. Most of these activities will be pretty simple variations of "kill the wave of enemies".

I'm still getting this game, but please do not over hype yourself if you are interested in this game.

>>386977831
>If pve bosses in D2 will be bulletsponges with stand here, press button mechanics again, I'll flip some shit
Did you play strike in the beta? It was just a giant bulletsponge minatuar. I hope all bosses aren't just that.

>>386977260
>Legendary/rare engrams used to grant Uncommon gear
This was the worst shit it could happen in any game.

>>386977260
>Fusion Rifles were repeatedly nerfed for the remaining 98% of the game's lifespan
Don't forget this happened to Auto Rifles for the time between the Suros and Doctrine metas. Every auto rifle acquired in that period was shard worthy

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>>386978062
>Did you play strike in the beta?
I'm waiting for the pc beta, 2 years of d1 on ps4 was already too long.

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>>386978156
>tfw auto rifles never recovered from their nerfs

It's not 80 story missions; it's 80 PvE activities, and that includes strikes, raid, patrol missions and the new lost sectors and some other secret shit they don't want to say at this point. They say story missions are extensive and that things are a lot more rewarding now

For reference, vanilla destiny had 40 pve activities.

We'll see if they tone it down with the "go there, use ghost, fight horde" type of missions

>>386976575
>epic capeshit audience

What does this mean?

>>386976575
>These are the same people who made jumps in quality from Halo CE to Halo 2 to Halo 3
They're actually not

>>386976575
>These are the same people who made jumps in quality from Halo CE to Halo 2 to Halo 3
They aren't. Also while all 3 games are great, I liked CE and 2 more than 3.

>>386978028
where did they go?

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>someone on /v/ actually preordered this game

But why?

>>386978186
Well the strike kinda sucked. The part leading up to the boss was pretty good in my opinion but then you get to the boss and it's just a bigger version of smaller enemy that does the same attacks but with a lot of health just like most of the first game

>>386977260
>>386977340
>>386977413
You forgot to mention Blackhammer and Gjallarhorn destroying pre-TTK PvE.

>>386977434
Finished enough to cut %40 off before release, and sell the rest back as expansions. Bungee fanboys will buy it and freak out if you criticize it.

>>386979364
>expansion
>nothing is new and is actually just recycled content

>your protagonist is mute because they can save money by not bringing back the VAs
>even so the dialogue is cringe worthy
>the art direction has gone from interesting and unique to uninspired garbage, "paying homage" aka ripping off to Star Wars
>and even after their last game's dlc controversy they are still launching this game with a season pass
>and only one raid
This is going to be the next level of bad, I hope this kills nuBungie off forever.

>>386975178
50+ cutscenes confirmed

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>>386977809
Blatantly false. Pic related, of people who worked from the original Bungie team that still worked on Destiny at the time of RoI colored green.

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>>386978596
>I liked CE and 2 more than 3

Are you talking about the campaign or the MP?

>>386978683
>someone on /v/ played the first Destiny
I played it for 5 minutes and I just couldn't make myself launch the game even once after that. ~50 FOV is beyond unplayable

>>386975025
Oh wow.
You know, after the beta came out and everyone got to see for themselves that the hand-picked Bungie shills that had previously played the same content were full of shit I was almost worried about the game.
But there's so much of it! And as we all know, if you take incredibly dull gameplay and drag it out over dozens of quests, the game magically becomes good! Just look at the greatest game of all time, Skyrim!

The subclasses are still stuck with customization at the level of A or B. All of the interesting weapons are still crammed into a single slot you can only pick one of and never have ammo for. Until the PC beta provides proof otherwise all of the abilities including Supers are still slow to charge and weak anyway. It'll feel even slower and floatier on PC.

>>386979684
Both, especially campaign though.

>>386978605
He's full of shit. Bungie still has people that worked on those games as per >>386979649. There were a few key people that left Bungie, but not the majority of the studio.

>>386979519
>the art direction has gone from interesting and unique to uninspired garbage
It looks consistent with the last Destiny, what did they change?

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>>386977845

>>386976575
>These are the same people who made jumps in quality from Halo CE to Halo 2 to Halo 3
If they were than Destiny would be as good if not better than Halo 1-3, but it was clear since Reach that the guys that made Halo 1-3 aren't there anymore.

>>386981987
They're still there

>>386977058
Why didn't they replace him with someone who wasn't complete shit?

>>386979649
I'm this guy here>>386981987 I guess that means that they were always shit and we just got lucky that these hacks were never able to make the Halo games they wanted to until the garbage that was Reach. Glad I blacklisted their asses after that shit prequel.

>>386982105
See>>386982220

>>386982192
You don't tell your boss his writing is shit.

Saw the Destiny Collection cheap in a store nearby, so bought it. Installing it now. Will i find anyone to play it with or am i for a complete singelplayer experience?

>>386982192
Because you can't write, voice and animate a good story in one year.

>>386982220
It's more like they got fucked over by their executive board 6 months before Destiny came out and basically had to redo the entire game's story from scratch and cobble together the remains of the game into some sort of Frankenstein monster.

>>386982869
But their last 2 games (ODST and Reach) were shit and you can't blame Microsoft for that, except for ODST's price, that was all Microsoft's.

>>386982493
pls respond

>>386982493
Plenty of people still play it. Though it may take a little longer to find LFG groups for raids.

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Game is gonna be shit, just like the first. I held out hoping it would get good, even with the dlc. it was still shit.

>>386982493
There's a shitton of people for strikes and LFG for nightfalls

You might have a harder time finding people for raids and competitive pvp since it's so late in the game's life and most of the people that still play only look for experienced people, but you'll learn your shit eventually

Play all the campaigns by yourself (which should be 10-20 hrs), then do some extra stuff and try to jump into some strikes, which have matchmaking

Once you're close to 390 and with some decent weapons (try to get the gjally, the void exotic sword and the sleeper simulant, which are scripted quests and not rng dependant), you can try to join a raid group. Don't expect them to teach you the ropes though; it's very hard to find a nice group willing to spend time showing you

The collection is great value at this point

>>386984002
>>386983265
Thank you anons. Just installing a fuckload updates now.

>>386975025
>quote actually said 80+ PvE activities
>at least 15-20 are patrol type activities
>another 10-15 are public events
>lost sectors / 'side missions'

the main story missions and strikes better be as much as D1 + all DLC. Otherwise that number is some Todd Howard-style bullshit (>2000 endings)

>>386986372
Did todd really say that?

>>386975363
Don know about size, but they're adding more shit to them so you would hang around

>>386986456
he said 200. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDcC94UZaz4

>>386975025

>80+ missions where you fight off 3 waves of enemies while your Ghost scans some shit

>>386976892
Warframe a shit, go suck DE's cock.

>>386975025
>80+ story missions
>all of the will be "hold square to summon ghost"
>fight 3 waves of enemies
>progress to next area
>occasionally fight boss towards end of segment
>repeat
Also no space combat, in a game where you regularly change ship design WITH WEAPONS CLEARLY VISIBLE ON THE SHIP

>>386977370
It had multiple phases and transitions. The other part of the strike sucked since the level design was boring as shit and had no mid point interesting parts.

>>386975025
>guardian protect the light from the dark
>not enough time to explain

Can't wait.

>>386988256
i thought the 'interesting' midpoint was supposed to be the battlefield / big drill section.

>>386988413
You are never in danger of the drill though, its a visually interesting area but that is it.

>>386988556
you underestimate how many morons I saw jumping straight into the drill on that strike instead of just dropping to that one level that let you just run the whole way to the cave entrance.

>>386988368
I dont even have time to explain that i dont have time to explain

Should I try playing the GOTY edition for PS4?

>>386988717
of the first game.

>>386988717
>>386988818
at this point you should probably just go play warframe and then see what the reviews/reaction is like to the full D2 release.

>final boss is a shape shifter
I would really fucking love fighting all the Destiny 1 subclasses.

>>386976575
I dont get why they can't make a social and ranked playlist like they did with halo 2 and 3

it's 80+ pve activities