Gwyn was right

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>tfw Dark Souls is actually just a metaphor for race-mixing

>>386955092
How

Literally incorrect, the age of man is the only way forward

>>386955354
Being hollow sucks balls, having only mindless hollows who may or may not attack you like zombies for company sucks balls, and the Dark is cold and damp. Nothing "forward" about it.

>>386955717
Hollows only exist because of Gwyn you meme.

>>386955925
Don't be retarded. Hollows existed before Gwyn linked the First Flame, his choice to do so was a reaction to their appearance. He did not cause it.

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Daily reminder that Moss Merchant was right from the very fucking beginning.
>Undead
>But loving it
>Will never go hollow
>Immortal and happy
>Two games later and there's a whole country going off of this philosophy that has a fighting chance to become the next gods

>>386956074
>Gift female undead merchant with a humanity
>she pops it and reverses hollowing
>she's actually qt
what do?

>>386955354
The Age of Men is part of the cycle, even when in complete darkness tiny flames will light up again and again. The only way out of the cycle is to usurp the flame for yourself and usher a new age.

>>386955717
>Being hollow sucks balls
With humanity, humans don't go hollow.

>>386956074
>accidently attack her
>she runs like 10m back into the cave so you can't talk buy shit from her

I hate how the new souls games don't have any npcs in maps at all. Probably got rid of them because of people whining about backtracking

>>386956713
>implying that any humanity you managed to grab won't get stolen by a SuperChad when everyone starts dickwraithing each other to stave off the hollowing in the darkness

>>386956847
>when everyone starts dickwraithing each other to stave off the hollowing in the darkness
You don't go hollow as long as you have a purpose and humanity. Just keep busy and get buff to stave off dickwraiths.

>>386956232
I hope you like moss play.

>>386956927
What's there even to do in the Dark to keep you busy
>Everyone else: New Londo-tier hollows, boring
>Anyone not a New Londo-tier hollow: Looking for excuses to violate the NAP, limit contact for one's own safety
>Scenery: virtually nonexistent, pockets of jumbled bullshit ala Untended Graves scattered around the void
>Amusements: virtually nonexistent, the Deep has came to the surface but the water/humanity is cold and there's ugly shit in it that's best left undisturbed
>Environment: cold, dark, tempting to just fall into a sleep as deep as death (which would invite hollowing)
Not the best of times, senpai

>>386957254
Hang out with Primordial Serpents, m8.

>>386957374
They're dead, famygdala

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>>386954992

How was he right? Just imagine if his pompous ass decided not to be a faggot and try to control something he nor anyone understands

>Age of fire is ending
>Bitch of Izalith never tries to copy the first flame and lets nature take it's course
>Papa Gwyn never links the flame and lets nature take it's course
>Age of dark begins
>Gods still live high and mighty on Anal Rodeo enjoying life because they can create artificial suns no problemo
>Witches of Izalith rule over lost Izalith and keep teaching pyromancy as a pure art related to life
>Neato and the skeletons keep chilling in their catacombs because people keep dying since there is no undead curse
>The humans take control of the situation and through human ingenuity their cities keep thriving because they are not losing their heads nor going hollow
>Kaathe is satisfied so he doesn't fuck shit up on Oolacile nor New Londo
>Age of dark ain't so dark after all thanks to Oolacile's magic

The only problem I'd see here is Seath, he'd still become mad and someone should put him down.

Reminder that Pontiff Sulyvahn did NOTHING WRONG

>>386957438
There's the whole deal of time and space collapsing as the flames fade away

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>>386954992
>has the power to literally instagib everlasting dragons
>fucks up the whole universe because he's too scared of the dark

Even Ludleth is more ballsy than him.

>>386957438
Fucking this.

>>386957550
The thing is time began with disparity, if there is dark, there is still light even if it is tiny little shits like what the firekeeper sees in the end of fire ending. There is no turning back to the age of ancients, light and dark cycle would go forever but Gwyn got ahead of himself and fucked everyone over.

>>386957778
Yes, there would still "technically" exist distinctions between time and space, but it would be the asymptotic limit as they get arbitrarily close to not existing. So your point is a technicality, they cease functioning for all practical purposes, only sticking around enough to stop the world from collapsing into a black hole.

>>386957532
>Reminder that Pontiff Sulyvahn did NOTHING WRONG
He underestimated you.

>>386957970
>*tips kissaki*

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>>386957970
>implying that was the real Pontiff Sulyvahn and not a shadow clone

>>386957564
Who could 1v1 Prime Gwyn and win?

>>386957438
Isn't the Dark a deadly poison to the Gods? Even in humanity would be theoretically fine chilling in the Dark, the Gods would wither away

>>386958168
If that's true, where is the real one?

>>386958458
>implying he would ever let you come close to him

>>386958458
Fucking Yorshka 24/7.
Her NPC is also a shadow.

>>386958168
What the fuck was the deal with his face?

>>386957904
There is 0 evidence that space/time would collapse in the age of dark it has only happened after linking the flame

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>>386958616
He likes candles

>>386958174
Pretty much any Ringed Knight, since he was already afraid of them in his prime.

>>386958653
http://darksouls.wikidot.com/purple-coward-s-crystal
>Victory in this battle once led to ancient Anor Londo, but even in the absence of it's overseer, capitulation is a disgrace. In the name of a warrior's honor, do not quickly resort to the use of this crystal.
In the heyday of Anor Londo (ie before the Flame was first linked), Undead Gladiator matches were a popular spectator sport. Undead using crystals and summoning to conduct and flee from gladiator matches implies the presence of parallel worlds, convoluted time, etc. Which means that yes, time and space were collapsing when the flame faded "originally," and that these things are not some kind of aberration that linking the flame created. They're the fading flame working as intended.

>>386958552
Delete this, Yorshka is for love and protection

>>386958781
Is there a full set of Dark Souls tarot?

>>386959024
>'If I can provide thee succ, only tell me how'
she a slut man

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Why couldn't the CU arrange for this to happen in-game?

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>>386959121
I'm sure you can find it somewhere on Imgur or Reddit if you look "Dark Souls Tarot cards".

>>386959384
>Artorias and Ciaran
>Ivory King and Alsanna
>Alva and Zullie
Which couple had the hardest lives?

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>>386957532
>>386958168
>>386958781
Reminder that Pontiff was a bitch made nigger that fled from the painting and never looked back was smart enought to know about the forbiden flame but never did anything with it, conducted experiments on humans, send undead to the cathedral to be sacrificed, killed a god that was just minding her(his) own business and put up a barrier to protect his punk ass if anyone found out.

>>386959649
>knew about the Forbidden Flame but knew nothing about it
His Fire Witches all employ the profaned flame, he distributed it among his forces, what are you talking about?
>Conducted experiments on humans
>sent undead to the cathedral to be sacrificed
Those were going on long before his usurpation of the papacy, don't put that evil on him
>Gwyndolin
>minding his own business
Gwydolin a shit

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>>386959525
I'd say Alva and Zullie
>Alva goes on a quest to save a Saint from a disease
>meets Zullie, who hates his devotion and tries to lead him astray
>realizes that Alva's pureness was too much for her charm and black magic
>actually falls in love with him
>Alva still fails his quest
>Zullie motivates him to live again
>Alva relinquishes his k***hthood, but gains a 10/10 witch gf
>Zullie spends the rest of her life with him
>then she somehow disappears
>Alva scours the entire world looking for her, constantly invading others
>he eventually finds her in the Ringed City
>She's already dead
>Her spirit has been enslaved by the Judicator Giants
>He guards her corpse until the end of time
>Karla may or may not be their daughter

>>386960058
>>Her spirit has been enslaved by the Judicator Giants
?

>>386960171
One of the spirits that they can summon is dressed in Zullie's set, which was supposedly unique to her. Said spirit also uses Dark Blade, a skill passed down from mother to daughter and sold by Karla.

>>386960058
But Karla is a nu-Child of Darkness, isn't she? Giant disembodied abyssal humanity sprite+flesh, yes? Just like the sisters in DaS2

>>386956965
what the fuck is moss play

>>386961009
you ever hear of tossing moss?

>>386961197
No, I don't speak instagram

dark souls is a horrible series that peaked with the first game (which is itself heavily flawed), every game in the series takes several steps back for every step forward and instead of taking all the good ideas from previous games and improving on them they throw the baby out with the bathwater over and over

>>386958174
Could Manus?

I don't blame him. No one wins when it comes to the abyss, humans get fucked up by it too.

>>386961470
Probably not desu, he got killed by an undead

>>386961790
I still like to think that Manus is the furtive pygmy.

>>386958174
Vendrick probably

>>386961656
>he thinks that the Age of Dark is the Abyss

>>386956841
Why did they go back and rehash Demon's Souls ideas?

>>386961907
When TRC came out people were saying that the loose Pygmy Lord that you can speak with beside the bonfire is the Furtive Pygmy. I kind of like that better. It doesn't make a difference, really, since the franchise implies that the Furtive Pygmy and his Pygmy Lords were of a common powerlevel, and Manus could have been any of them, but the I like the idea of the Pygmy making an appearance quietly and unannounced.

>>386961943
It isn't? Weren't the event of Oolacile before Gwyn linked the fire?

>>386962314
The Abyss does not occur naturally, it has to be manufactured with sorcery. Humanity does not go wild unless you force it to. It isn't any more representative of the Age of Dark than the chaos flame is of the Age of Fire.

>>386962541
How did New Londo go wild?

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6 years on.

>>386963056
The Abysses of Oolacile and New Londo are one and the same:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGQ86Aet_7M

>>386963430
How does it work? Can it be stopped? If the Age of Dark isn't the abyss, then what is it?

>>386963807
>If the Age of Dark isn't the Abyss, what is it?
The flames die out, and the Deep surfaces as the darkness equivalent to the first flame, like a pool of anti-fire. The disparate opposite of a flame is a body of water, and so the analogue to the first flame that is found in the age of dark is a massive ocean of gentle humanity.

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There is a fucking backstory to all of this? I thought this was about hard hitting enemies and bosses.

>>386960494
She might be, but the description of the Dark Edge spell she sells convinces me that she is related somewhat to Zullie. Perhaps she is a child of a Child of Dark?

>>386964293
Put some effort into your baitposting, anon, please

>>386964293
>Dark Souls 1
Jew Serpents caused everything wrong
>Dark Souls 2
The King's wife and the King's brother both want his throne
>Dark Souls 3
The pope hates you

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>>386957438
>Anal Rodeo

>>386964293
Dark Souls was known for its lore and story more than the hard difficulty and prepare to die.

There were 4chan screencaps of the praise, but I don't have any

>>386964606
Frampt did nothing wrong

>>386964485
The in game dialogue is maybe 20 sentences put together. Perhaps you should refraining from pretending there is a story when there is none (except item descriptions).
Even the ending scene had almost no dialogue.

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Did they do anything wrong?

>Be Nashandra
>desire the Throne of Want
>Vendrick fucking shit hid the key behind a bunch of defenders that I cannot bypass
>hire some undead scrub to fetch the key for me
>he does
>having acquired enough strength to do what I could not, I allow him into the Kiln to kill its' final guardians
>Then I decide to 1v1 the Undead who's objectively way stronger than me
what did she mean by this?

>>386955925
>Hollows only exist because of Gwyn you meme.

Gwyn and the rest of the Lords were all Hollows originally. The natural state of all humanoids is Hollow. Give a Hollow a soul, and it turns into something, be it a Lord or a human, depending on the soul type.

>>386965031
What did they even do in the first place?

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What did Nadalia do so wrong as to warrant death?

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>>386965158
Give me an erection

>>386961982
DS3 has all the trainers and just about every NPC respawn at the main hub so all the shops will be easy to access. It's like a mini-nexus. The layout of firelink in DS3 is even like a scaled down version of the nexus.

While I personally enjoy stories about fighting fate, Gwyn wasn't fighting the fate of dark for a greater purpose, he was a coward who was afraid of change and the inevitable course the world was going towards, and by trying to desperately stop the flow of nature he ruined the world.

>>386955092
Kill yourself.

>>386965352
Be a Manusspawn

>>386958174
NK

>>386964918
lore=! plot, you brainlet

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>Escaped Painted World
>Convinced Lothric and Lorian to not link the fire
>Usurped control of the Church of the Deep
>distributed corrupt magic among his army and fucked their shit up
>Imprisoned Yorshka and Gwyndolin
>fed Gwyndolin to Aldrich
>Mindbroke the Dancer
>sent people out with cursed equipment that would turn them into mindless beasts
Did I miss anything?

>>386965865
That made me think.

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>>386965903

Kalameet>Prime Gwyn=NK>Prime Pygmy>Midir>Gael>Manus>4knights

>>386965591
main hub is a recreation of the Demon's Souls main hub the Nexus. the two are very very similar.

the first main area of Lothric Castle is Boletarian palace, complete with red-eye knights. complete with dragons hanging around (bridge dragons first in DeS). when this area opens up later after the Dancer fight it gets even more blatant, and that final stretch to the Two Princes battle is copy of the intro to Boletaria, complete with skeleton knights hiding behind wooden barriers. that big wooden buggy that shows up from time to time also first appeared in DeS.

the gargoyle guys taking you and dropping you off is a thing that first happens in DeS. same with rolling skeletons, they first appear in DeS. the Stormruler special weapon that you use to kill a specific boss first appears in DeS as a special weapon used to kill a specific boss. Patches is also a mischievous presence in DeS and features heavily in DS3. the boss fight in the middle of the town where you fight alongside the onion knight is very much like the first boss fight of The Shrine of Storms, where you fight the same demon in the middle of a castle.

finally there is Irithyll Dungeon, an inverted copy of Tower of Latria. i say inverted cos you work your way down, and once you get to the Profane Capitol, you are fighting gargoyles on suspended walkways a la the end of the Tower of Latria level. DS3 re-created 3 areas from DeS, it's a stretch to say it does that many from DS1.

>>386959649
Why does Pontiff like Jojo? Poses?

>>386965973
oh god it's perfect

>>386965903
>>386965973
What's the name of his Stand?

Posting best DaS3 boss theme:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=susg9a_G3Sk

Despite the personality pontiff Sully is pretty admirable, to think he started from empty handed but obtained such power in the end.

>>386966094
because he summons a Stand in his boss fight

So is the profane flame the seed of chaos?

>>386965903

Corrupted with the abyss, the very people who were meant to protect the kingdom from it.

>>386965973
Isn't the Deep just some form of the Abyss?

>>386966413
chaos flame + abyssal flame = profaned flame

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Being a humanoid tree yet attracted by flame, why?

>>386966538
Deep is to the Abyss as normal fire is to chaos fire. The deep is comprised of docile, stagnant, nonwild humanity, and is humanity in its "natural" state. The Abyss is comprised of wild and mutated humanity, an is artificially manufactured by foul sorceries.

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>>386954992
Of course he is right.

Loss + Caloric = Lothric

>>386966728
>>386966630
please delete these images

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>>386966630
It's hot

>>386967992
Anon, that doesn't look consensual

>>386958174
patches

>>386965125
>Gwyn and the rest of the Lords were all Hollows originally

Ever heard of a Hollow reproducing? Gwyn had an uncle, remember.

>>386969174
They stopped being hollows when they got their souls, but upon losing their souls they go back to being hollow.

>>386965980
I have a very hard time believing that Midir couldn't bitchslap Kalameet.

Hunter > Slayer of Demons >>> Ashen One > Chosen Undead > Bearer of the Curse

>>386956927
I promise everyone on this board doesn't have the mental capacity to not become hollow

>>386961197
They were good jokes anon.

>>386969174
>Gwyn's uncle
>Believing the (((Way of White)))

>>386965903
And he still has zero dialogue.

Serious missed opportunity.

>>386970168
Sulyvahn has nothing to say to a worm like you

>>386965061
women are stupid and irrational.

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>>386969174
>>386970136

>trusting the clergy in any time line, universe, or dimension

how beat fume knight

>>386970654
Reminder that losing the Rite of Kindling in the Catacombs was an inside job
>WoW need a way to purge their ranks of undead fucking shits
>have Rite of Kindling, an artifact that only benefits undead fucking shits
>lol why do we even care about this thing, again?
>make Leeroy the first paladin
>give him the Rite of Kindling
>have him walk it as far down into the catacombs as he possibly can before hollowing
>all future paladins (read: exiles) now have a carrot to chase and hollow Leeroy to fuck them up so they never come back

>>386970745
git gud

>>386970745
>how do I beat a boss in Dodge Simulator
Everything a matter of timing.
Also Pontiff best boy

Tbh I would fuck up the world too if my son was a flaming faggot.

>>386971110
>Pontiff
>best boy
explain

Beatrice is CUTE

>>386971791
wait, Nito has legs?

>>386955092
I just sat and thought about this and really can't understand where the fuck you pulled that from

>>386971030
Except Leeroy helps you retrieve it and his hollow form is nowhere to be found.

>>386971791
How was Nito a skeleton before getting a Lord soul?

>>386971968
They're weird chicken legs, yes.

>>386972036
But he wasn't?

>>386972082
He would have to be though

>>386971463
>only attack you when you go in his territory
>protects people from going to the brutal pvp zone
>10/10 design

>>386971968
why do you think he was so tall?

>>386972120
He kind of materialized out of the ground if you watch the cutscene desu. More like one of the hollows touched the death soul, immediately died, killed everyone around him, and got a sicc skelly body from their bones

>>386971791

That's actually kinds of more terrifying than the skeleton dress version.

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>>386968813
>implying the Pontiff needs consent from a sex slave

>>386972652
Oh yeah well if she's a sex slave why is he making her cum with his fingers?

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>>386965903
>>386965973
>We got some Gywn ripoff for a final boss while this motherfucker was just hanging out in a church for some reason

>>386973082
Fuck you, I liked the Gwyn ripoff fight. Fighting Gael over the Dark Soul and fighting the CU's and Gwyn's remains over the First Flame was poetry.

>>386973102
Seeing him without his dumb cloak really sells how tired his movements are and how depowered he's become.

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>>386973297

>>386973082
>hanging out in a church for some reason

Do you know what a pontiff is?

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This is the Dark Soul. Does it look like what you expected it to?

>>386973552
>its a humanity sprite after all

Nope, its almost exactly how i imagined it to be

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>>386973857
For bonus poetry, it's almost a color inverse of Gwyn's Soul in shape

>>386973985
Damn thats cool.

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>>386974279
There's actually quite a lot of pottery in lore significant items in DaS3. An example: Soul of the Lords is basically an ascended Ember. Makes sense when you think about how it's made of the burning humanity of uncounted Undead champions, but at the same time it's a very small detail that I'm impressed that they caught. Whoever was doing the art design for items in this game knew their shit.

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>Gwyn
>Welsh for "white" or "blessed"
Really cracks my cashews

>>386973985
Not even close.

>>386974650
Yes it is, are you blind?

Someone tell me the story of Alva and Zullie

>>386974707
Not him but it really isn't/

>>386974707
Are you? The form and pigmentation are completely different.

>>386972036
>>386973102
Nito's body is composed of several different types of bones, meaning "First of the Dead" means any living thing that passed away before the souls were found. He's more like an amalgamation of man, animal, giant, and whatever else existed before fire started

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>>386973985
Also looks a lot like Manus' soul.

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>>386974707

>>386974853
There was nothing before the fire started. Just trees and dragons.

>>386974736
Once upon a time, there was a dude with a murakumo and a chick who cast magic. They banged. Probably.

The End.

>>386974919
>looks like Aldrich's soul
>the inverse of the Lord Souls is the Deep
BRAVO MIYAZAKI

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>>386974853

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>>386955092

If you were commanded to adapt Dark Souls into a comic or a tv show, what "canon" personality would you grant the MC?

>>386975302
What would the boss fight be like if it looked like this?

>>386975852
It would be a western adaptation where the MC is a dull black guy (played by Idris Elba ofc) and Gwyndolin the tranny is shoe horned into many scenes.

>>386977309
Explain this Idris Elba meme, /tv/

Who is Allfather Lloyd? Is he similiar to the pope? In dark souls III some items descriptions state that clerics of Carim say that he self proclamed himself as the "Allfather" and call him a fraud, are the clerics of Carim to the Way of White what Orthodoxy is to Catholicism?

>>386977650
He's a fraud who declared himself Gwyn's uncle

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>>386977387
>Idris Elba
In addition he was at, one point, going to be cast as the next James Bond

>>386977387
He is guaranteed to be in any brit movie for diversity points.

>>386977830
Redpill me on the way of white pls, i know nothing about them but i find them so interesting for some reason.

>>386978206
You know the fictional catholic church in Berserk? They're basically that

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>>386955092
I'm as racist as they come and I still don't know how you've come to that conclusion.

Why do people always romanticize Eygon and Irina's relationship? He hated her, resented her, and was abusive.

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Aldia was right

>>386963807
The Abyss is to the darkness what the Chaos Flame is to the fire. Basically forces of nature gone wild.

Unless tampered with, the natural flow of things would be the rise of a calm darkness, the Deep. And it can be stopped by reigniting the First Flame, though in DS3 they did that shit so many times the world is dying and can no longer sustain shit

>>386978550
Where are your proofs?

>>386973552
It looks like a vagina that's black.

>>386978550
He just seemed weary of having to take care of her all the time. It takes its toll on a person, no matter the relationship.

>>386978758
What if Aldia was the Profane Flame?

>>386978924
Literally all of his dialogue

>>386981956
But he literally comes back to check on her constantly until something happens to her.
He's a conflicted man wearing his suit of armour

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>>386978003
He's also playing Roland Deschain in the upcoming Dark Tower movie. The character is described as basically prime Clint Eastwood in the books.

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>>386955092

What is the stupidest lore theory that you ever heard?

>>386978109
Why do people hate him? He's a fucking amazing actor in everything I've seen him, and he definitely has the class and charm to play somebody like James Bond.

>>386982146
>no doujins or lewdfics of her seducing him because her failure to become a firekeeper means that she can't possibly become more corrupt

>>386966630
DEEPED

>>386965158
Corrupted firekeepers being bitches.

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>>386955092
What the fuck are you talking about?

>>386965352
I thought she killed herself and those flaming entities were just fakes?

>>386982817
>barely any Dark Souls doujins in the first place
>one of them is literally cosplay
All I want is one where the Emerald Herald seduces the BotC by saying she is going to help him relax

>>386970654
Fuck off, Patches.

>>386983937
>No doujins of the CU helping Quelana overcome her ptsd (with his dick)
>No doujins of Artorias and Ciaran learning how to deal with their size difference
>No doujins of Zullie attempting to rape Alva but having the tables turned on her instead (how romantic!)
>No doujins of Lord of Hollows harem end

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>>386960058
Reminder that Alva and Zullie is just a metaphor for Berserks romance sideplot. Alva is Guts and Zullie is Schierke. Casca will die and Guts will abandon his cause and longing for revenge in favour of his new loli witch gf.

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>>386984209
>no vanilla doujin of Alsanna and the Ivory King consummating their marriage

>>386971791
>Be lord of the undead
>Daily duties include laying down and making sure subjects are comfy
>Some fucking prick shows up and kills my subjects
>Doesn't just ASK for the lord soul

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>>386984362
I'm pretty sure Zullie was a mature woman

>>386974886
Manus' soul was the dark soul, no?

>>386984392
>final panel of Alsanna/IK doujin is the two of them cuddling while dazed from the intensity of their orgasms, and a cutaway to all her sisters gossiping about her
>"Can't win against the cock, man."
>"Nope, can't do it."
>"Nope."

>>386978758
Aldia's dialogue is underrated. He speaks with authority, conviction. But he knows and has surrendered himself to the never ending cycles.

>>386957438
Pretty sure the gods at the very least lose their powers as gods if they let the age fade.
After all their powers are based solely on the flames they found.

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>>386972652
I didn't know suly could be so.. l-lewd..

>>386985995
Anything can be lewd, anon

>>386984878
Why did Aldia turn into a tree?