Nier Or Skyrim

>>386953720
Both.

Nier is not a RPG

Skyrim if you want a better Sandbox, don't mind the shit story, and are buying on PC.

Nier Automata if you want a better story, more fun gameplay. If you choose Skyrim over Nier, you still need to buy nier at some point.

>>386953815
In the course of my career as a vidcon specialist (my own coinage, spend it wisely), I have never seen such blatant and frankly sickening ignorance as that exhibited by the "people" (if, in fact, they are homo sapiens at all, as their intelligence implies elsewise) that claim that Nier is not an RPG. There is nothing that Yoko "Yolo" Taro could possibly do to make the vidcon any more of an RPG as it meets every single criterion for being one, particularly that it takes place in an imaginary realm with a fantastical beastiary, the damsel villain ratio is at or above standards, and that the core emphasis of the gameplay is on bedazzling all foes with impeccable swords and sorcery. Furthermore, this line of thought can be extended to all vidcons in which the player controls a character (hence, roleplaying), though I cringe slightly at the thought of such mundane vidcons as Madden being RPGs, as they do not even include exotic weaponry such as the tonfa.

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>Want a good RPG
>The choices are either Nier or Skyrim

>NieR: Automata or Skyrim
>need a new RPG

Can I recommend the RPG of killing yourself?

>>386953996
Kys

>>386953720
Because you asked as if this was a legitimate question, I'm going to say that you'd enjoy skyrim more and you should probably spend your money on that.

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>>386953720
What kind of fucking bait post is this OP? Buy Nier right fucking now

Skyrim

>>386953720
>wants a "new good RPG game"
>second option is seven year old game
Why not both? If you must get one then Automata

Nier is better all around unless you really want an open-world type of game like Skyrim. I think Skyrim is boring as shit though and you'd be better off getting Morrowind or Oblivion anyway.

>>386953815
This

Nier is just an adventure game, it's not by any means to be taken as a RPG.

>>386953720
Orange and potatoes my man

>>386953720
Tried Nier and it really does NOTHING for me.

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>we've reached a point where Nier is considered to be a Role Playing Game
It boggles my mind. Just why? Is it because you are roleplaying as the robots? Well then I guess bomberman is a RPG since you are roleplaying as bomberman.

>>386953720

Skyrim is pretty lacklustre by western RPG standards. Literally any other game in the series is better. The story is also shit, and all the sidequests are for the most part worse versions of those in both Oblivion and Morrowind.

Nier Automata isn't really primarily an RPG, it's a story focused semi-open world spectacle fighter / character action / CUHRAYZEE game, with a few RPG elements like your HP and Damage increasing per level, upgradeable weapons, and quests. It also has bullet hell elements, and other genre changes from time to time.

Automata is significantly better than Skyrim, but if you are looking for a pure RPG element, it isn't the choice for you.

>>386955213

>Pure RPG element

Meant: Pure RPG game

Neither of these are RPGs

>>386953815
Neither is Skyrim

>>386953720
you sound like normal fag,get skyrim you dipshit

>>386955181
what exactly makes an "RPG"?

>>386955632
Being able to develop and build your characters (like stat-wise), having choices, even if it's just dialogue choices with little impact on the game's overarching plot.

>>386955181
>story driven
>character progression
>experience afforded from leveling
>game is structured through quests
>character stat customization
>weapons are found or awarded through quests
>weapons are upgraded using items found throughout the world

>>386955728
Both Nier games have both of those.

>>386955823
It's different.

>>386953720
You are a dumb cunt and haven't played Nier, so just get Skyrim. There's enough shitty secondaries already who only played Automata.

>>386955632
An imaginary realm with fantastical beastiary, the damsel villain ratio being at or above standards, and the core emphasis of the gameplay being on bedazzling all foes with impeccable swords and sorcery.

>>386955846
>RPGs have this and this
>this game has both of this
>oh well that doesn't count
Yeah, okay faggot.

>>386955986
It's not traditional.

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>>386953720
Nier is a meme. don't listen to these faggots or you will be dissapointed. skyrim is overall my bang for your buck, with modding and so on. oh and the pc version of Nier is a busted mess anyway.

>>386956028
What does that even mean? You're not even moving the goalposts, you're just making shit up.

>>386955852
>muh secondaries
cancer that kills fanbases, right here

>>386956028
I agree, if it's not a boardgame it's not an RPG

>>386953996
Since you're an expert, list what defies an rpg. No long ass explanations since it is simple; just list what features defies what is an rpg and what is not

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>>386956106
Traditions! They are solutions that society comes up -- through centuries and centuries of attempt and error -- to overarching problems. Every single person contributes with one small grain of sand to the great construction that is the solution to our problems!

Indeed, we create traditions because they are good. Do not talk to strangers! Always wash your hands! Prefer monogamic relationships -- and do try to get married! For RPGs, it's not different. A traditional formula was created because it is what has worked for this genre. A formula that gives you freedom while still keeping it pleasing.

Nier completely spits on the RPG tradition and throws it away.

>>386956142
Not what I said

>>386953720
Nier is as much of a rpg like deus ex, get skyrim you can get hundreds of hours in the game and theres a mod,


Just remember to buy the edition with all the dlcs.

Nier can be completed in 35hours. 24hours if you rush the main story

Buy The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim and make sure you buy the Legendary Edition.If you have Nintendo Switch, go buy the Switch version so you can play it on the go.

>>386956109
>lol just let them shit up the franchise

>>386955213
>spectacle fighter
sure
>character action
a stretch
>CUHRAYZEE
yeah, no

>>386955487
It is, whether you think it's a good one or not is up to you.

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>>386956335
You might want to get checked
I'm positive that you have the 'tism

>>386956568
Only a mediocre and limited mind would imply that. I merely mentioned the conservative thesis on traditions. If you read Roger Scruton or Edmund Burke you will find the same information.

>>386956639
See.
That's 'tism right there
All over

ITT idiots who only play American point and click adventure or soft core porn visual novel simulators on their microsoft word box all their lives with no defined combat, party mechanics, or specific ROLES that exist as you PLAY the GAME that pretend to be the authority of what an RPG is.

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>>386953720
Skyrim. Nier is weeb shit based solely around fanservice and atrocious gameplay. At least Skyrim can be modded in to something that's actually worth playing whereas Nier is the epitome of weeb trash.

>>386953720
They're very different games. Skyrim has thousands of hours of replayability through mods and you can also make it into your personal sex sim like I did. Nier is pretty barebones in terms of rpg mechanics, but it is a very unique game that I found immensely enjoyable when I beat it.

>>386956760
Please explain.

>>386956335
>Nier completely spits on the RPG tradition and throws it away.
How? Because you said so, fucking pseud? You haven't given a single substantive reason as to why Nier isn't an RPG. It meets the criteria according to your own standards set forth here >>386955728, and you've done nothing but spout vague, pretentious, inconsequential bullshit in order to disqualify it.

>>386956808
I wish you people took more time to write out bait for a game you didn't play besides "muh weebshit"

>>386956808
This
I really couldn't recommend nier to anybody

>>386953720
>( i also forgot about it until the remasterd one came to ps4 and xbox)
Wait.

Are you buying this game for a console?

Then for the love of god get Nier. Skyrim is only worth it if you can mod it.

>>386954331
>>386956206
Christ. That's copypasta. Not just copypasta, that's literally taken from a video game. Did "vidcon" no puzzle you as odd?

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This thread is a fucking mess, nobody makes sense anymore
OP was just wondering which game he should buy

>>386957104
Newfags don't play Charles Barkley.

>>386956889

Saying Nier, which has defined characters both within the story and gameplay that have explicit and specific roles that uniquely define them - the very definition of an RPG (2B is a combat unit, 9S is a hacking unit. Both exist within your party and dramatically change how you play the game as you complete quests and raise your stats etc) - is not an RPG while playing a dumb down role-less, softcore porn simulator like the Witcher and pretending that that's an RPG because you can pick dialog options is the most absurd thing ever and you fucking idiots know nothing about video games.

>>386956994
Can't you work this one yourself?

Does Nier allow you to stat build characters? Sort of, but not really. It's not traditional stat point distributing but rather a very limited gadget system.

Does Nier allow you to build a party? Sort of, but not really. You have one AI-controlled companion and you can at most change how they attack.

Does Nier allow you to make choices (so you can actually roleplay your character)? Once again, sort of but not really, not really at all actually.

Does Nier allow you to engage in quests? Sort of, but not really, the quests are blatant filler and not part of the core gameplay.

Does Nier allow you to see character progression? Sort of but not really. Your HP gets higher and you get more gadgets to """build""" your stats but not really.

>>386953720
You honestly sound way too stupid to appreciate Nier. Not that Nier is exceptionally obtuse, you just sound exceptionally dumb.

>>386957185
You're fucking retarded to think that your opinion should redefinite game genres

>>386957203
>Does Nier allow you to stat build characters?
Yes.
>Does Nier allow you to build a party?
Yes. You don't have one companion, the pods are distinct characters as well. Did you even play the game? Not to mention in the original, you have both Kaine and Emil in addition to Weiss.
>Does Nier allow you to make choices (so you can actually roleplay your character)?
This is the one game series that's famous for allowing you to make a choice that has tangible consequences, but apparently that doesn't count because it doesn't incorporate a dialogue wheel to afford the flavor with bland, flavorless choices that have no bearing or meaning on anything.
>Does Nier allow you to engage in quests? Sort of, but not really, the quests are blatant filler and not part of the core gameplay.
Again, I question whether or not you actually played the game.
>Does Nier allow you to see character progression?
Yes.

>>386957203
>sort of but not really
>sort of but not really
>sort of but not really
>sort of but not really
I swear to god you're a fucking mongoloid, it's clearly an RPG. Saying "not really" doesn't make it so you lonely virgin.

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Go for automata anon.

>>386953815
Why are CRPG fags so insufferable?

>>386957341
But yours should?

>>386957710
They were rhetoric questions my unintelligent friend, I even answered them right after, so you don't have to answer them.

>>386957753
As I said, it is a """RPG"""" that breaks all traditions, so I refuse to acknowledge it as a RPG.

>>386957710
>Yes. You don't have one companion, the pods are distinct characters as well. Did you even play the game? Not to mention in the original, you have both Kaine and Emil in addition to Weiss.
Don't forget that 9S can add enemies to his party and you can rez corpses to add them to your party temporarily, too.

>>386957908
Not really

>>386957818
>They were rhetoric questions my unintelligent friend, I even answered them right after, so you don't have to answer them.
No shit fuckface, I'm answering them to prove your moronic points wrong. That's how an argument tends to work. You don't just post factually incorrect horseshit and then say you won because you framed it as your own Q&A.
>that breaks all traditions
You still haven't explained how it breaks traditions.

>>386958104
Yes, really. Are you so stupid that you're denying mechanics present in the game exists? 10 years and /v/ still manages to astound me with its wanton stupidity.

>>386958118
Even if we take in consideration your post, all your points are non-traditional ways of doing RPG elements. Instead of proper stat distribution and progression they use memes, instead of a proper party it's the robotic memes, instead of proper choices it's the "memes that actually matter" memes, instead of proper quests it's memes, and so on.

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>>386957818
I bet you don't consider this an RPG even though it has more role playing elements than any of your bioware shit

>>386958252
This has to be one of the stupidest posts I've ever had the misfortune to read on this site, and this is /v/. I've seen some pretty stupid fucking posts.

>>386958376
The fact you are a newfag is a non-argument.

>>386958295
It's a fairly good RPG friend

Wait for nier sale
Pirate skyrim in the meantime + play with mods

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>>386958252
>memes
>memes
>memes
>memes
>memes
I don't want to believe that you typed this post and thought you were making an actual argument. Consider me trolled.

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>>386958252
This has got me cracking up so hard

>robotic memes
10/10

>>386957026
Except I did play it and it was utter trash. Gameplay consisted of some of the worst hacknslash I've ever endured where it was essential dodge(R2)+Attack(square or triangle) to win which worked for every single situation including boss fights even on the most difficult setting. The rest of the "gameplay" was nothing more than running through an empty desert or dilapidated city for hours on end often backtracking through each area to complete pointless fetch quests just to level up or proceed through the "story". Next is the OST that every weeb creams themselves over because their taste in music is akin to that of a preteen girl. But you won't listen to this comment because we all know you couldn't face the facts about your shit taste if your worthless waste of life depended on it.

>>386959568
>you have to press buttons, so I don't like the game

>>386953720

Skyrim if you want a good RPG.

Note that it will only become good if you salvage it with mods. A lot of them.

>>386959960
As someone who's currently torrenting Skyrim after getting a new comp because I've got a hankering for some medieval wandering simulator, do you know where I can find a list of good mods? It's been fucking ages since I last touched the game and I've forgotten everything.

Skyrim is more like Medieval GTA than an RPG
Nier is more like Bayonetta or DMC than and RPG

I'd go with Nier because it's batshit and that's fun, Skyrim will either be great or awful to you.

>>386960086
Loverslab is a pretty good site.

>>386959960
Just look at the GEMs section on the nexus

Nier is a significantly better video game. Niether of them are very good at being RPGs

>>386953720
neither of them are rpgs, just action games with numbers on them.
you should buy nier though, it's way better than anything bethesda shits out.

>>386953996
What the heck is a vidcon?

>>386953720
Kill yourself you complete fuckhead