I don't understand the hate of this game. What happened here?

>>386953326
Faggots are just whining because of what they saw or didn't see during the stream
>no chuckles gameplay
>"shitty" stages
>infinite sound effect
There's also the whole pc denuvo thing.

>>386953326
Forces fags are meming hard to take mania down a peg so their version won't seem as bad when it releases

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>>386953326
Its hard to tell if people really are upset or if its mainly false flaggers who constantly shitpost about everything in general. Also some people are upset over the stage choices, some wanted more original stages, some wanted shit like Rose to be playable.
Personally I'm happy with the game but I'm not happy I have too wait another two weeks.

False flag

All the stages are gorgeous and have new layouts and good difficulty.

All the bosses look great. Music too

Ending ties into the next game (of which isn't a bad game and isn't a bad thing).

Delayed on system most people aren't on but thats okay to wait.

But false flaggers are having field day.

>>386953526
Infinite has a sound effect?

>>386956065
When you get teleported to different zones, it plays the same se as the one in the forces trailer.

>>386953326
It has been shilled here 24/7.

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>>386953326

>>386953326

PCfags are asshurt that their version has been delayed.

>>386953326
A daily hype thread turned into a general. It gets all the shit it deserves.

>>386953326
Weeks of daily (basically a general thread) Mania suddenly fucking explodes into shit posting by anons who are either upset about PC being delayed or the ones that overthink/overreacted to a leaker streaming the game. It gave fuel to people already against Classic sonic and now they're confident that Forces is somehow going to be the GOAT.

People are really fucking stupid on this site.

>>386957112
I'll admit that I was irritated by that, but fuck it, I guess I'll get it on Switch. That'll give me an excuse to turn the thing on, I suppose.

>>386957304
almost all of it is false-flagging and shitposting though

>>386953326
Shitposting, that's what happened.

>>386956789
So? What's the big deal?

>>386953526
>pc denuvo thing.
Damn it. It has denuvo.

>>386953326
>whole board sucking this game's balls
>what's with the hate guys hurrdurr
Kys

>>386953326
mania was bound to get shitposted the moment leaks surfaced or the game was out, just like every other highly anticipated release
sega's dumb decision to delay the game on the pc in the last second added fuel to the fire

>>386957471
Nothing, all the autists are screeching about it here though.
>>386957604
Well at least if it's good, paying won't be so bad.

>>386953326
asshurt PC faggots mad at every developer favoring consoles over pirate haven

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Who /preordered the game on console so they don't have to wait another week/ here?

I feel like Chris Chan is too autismo to enjoy this game.

Like he's so far gone he forgot where he started.

>>386957015

I was waiting for this.

>>386953326
pc fatties got their version delayed so its shit now

>>386953326
It's just a glorified HD collection with an ad at the end to buy Forces.

>>386959274

Chris doesn't care about the actual games, just trivial shit like Sonic's arms.

>>386953326
I'm mad about the delay and disappointed about the quality of the ending and the connection to forces

Other anons are not satisfied with the content such as level selection and old/new ratio

>>386959274
no one cares

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>muh 4 new zones guys

If it helps, think of Mania as the third episode of Sonic 4, but with proper physics and a shit-ton of additional content for an extra $5.

>>386959274
Chris Chan doesn't give a fuck about the games, just the character.

>>386957015
Came here to post this

>>386959829
Fuck you, I'm going back to /mlp/.

>>386957015
this would be more accurate if all the retarded shitposters were represented by 3 or 4 characters there

Is the Forces tie in a problem?

I think it's neat they're doing it like this.

>>386960604
Not so much that it's a tie in, but it's kinda lame that instead of getting a proper conclusion like any other classic game we end up getting a cliffhanger, Mania should've been a standalone game for the classic fans

>>386953526
Ive seen a video of Chuckles in GHZ Act 2, same as Sonics

Still need to see the intro and stuff like MSZ Act 1

>>386957363
Exactly. That's why half the time I rarely bother to go into threads when a game is close to release because shitposters and dumb cunts flood the discussion with TORTANIC bullshit.

>>386960604
Me too. It's reasonably subtle.

If they didn't do this, Classic Sonic would probably appear out of nowhere and Tails would later briefly explain it as Infinite messing with the space-time continuum or something.

>>386960695
I still fail to see the issue. It's trying to tie together the 25th anniversary.

I think the REAL problem is a lot of people don't want to play Forces.

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>ordered PS4 CE
>pre-ordered Steam version so I could play at launch while CE ships

Fug.

who /switchmasterrace/ here?

>>386961058
Best Buy shipped my game so it'd arrive on the launch date.

SO FUCK IT.

>>386960974
Refund the Steam version
Pirate it when mods come out

>>386960604
Same, we now know that the time-gem-thing is going to be in Forces and perhaps Heavy King too.

It's not Sonic Adventure 3.

>>386960912

What is the connection?

>>386961281
I don't know, I just know it's a thing because I hang around these threads too much. I'm still trying to save up some surprise.

Though I will say that this seems to align with my theory that the Drop Dash wasn't Christian Whitehead's idea but rather from Sonic Forces. They asked him to include it to better tie classic Sonic into Sonic Forces.

>>386961228
You had Adventure 3 in 2006
Then again in 2008

It's not happening, fuck off

>>386961281
Sonic Mania explains some story elements of Sonic Forces, chiefly Classic Sonic's presence.

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>>386960604
I have a few problems with it.

1) It establishes that Classic Sonic in Forces is a progression (story wise) from Mania, when both play nothing alike making it feel awkward.

2) We come from a game where we run through a shit ton of old levels to another game where we run through a shit ton of old levels and we end up on another game where (it seems very likely) we will run through a shit ton of old levels, one of these confirmed to be repeated three times. This is pretty bland.

3) Classic Sonic itself is one of the biggest points about Forces that let people down and now Mania is stated as the in universe reason for tacking him in, as if that somehow where to deflect all the criticism towards it because people love Mania.

Personally, the idea of Sonic games being connected with each other is great and I really wish SEGA did this a lot more. But why had to do it with two games that couldn't be less related?

>>386953326
Shitposting from a few retards, but then came the announcement with the delay and those who bought it on PC started complaining.

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>>386961805
Sorry for the samefagging in advance, but I forgot to add a few points.

With the logic SEGA is applying Bowser could show up in Forces and say "it's okay, he comes from the Olympics world!".

Also, as some anons mentioned before, it feels pretty lame than the reward for getting all the emeralds in Mania is just "lol, play Forces" while Tails and Knuckles get to stare like idiots at the sky doing nothing, it lacks the conclusion and that fulfilling feels of truly completing the game, because it hasn't truly ended yet.

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>>386953326
Dude, its called the /v/ cycle of life.

>see trailers and previews
>hype the fuck out of it
>set unrealistic expectations from tech demos or small gameplay footage
>game comes out
>ALWAYS wanted and expected more even if its a full fledged game worth its price
>constant nitpicking over dumb shit
>/v/ are nothing more than bitter manchildren that dont know any satisfaction worth so never

Most have been complaining that the game is to short and has no content when the games has 2 more stages than sonic and Knckles which had like 11 zones.

Some saying they wanted 25 new zones when we already knew how many zones would be in the game for the longest time.

Typical Pc neckbeards always want more than what they deserve for a small fee(don't even care if developers make enough money to fund ther next project or sequel) and even when it basically the classic sonic game that they have begged for they still reject and deny it like the developers didn't go in tooth and nail to try and satisfy old school sonic fans.

Some of them honestly thought that this wasn't just a test run for sega to see if true sonic fans actually want classic sonic title and most of them already hate it and will try and pirate it just to say its shit whie they play it to its fullest.


Neckbeards and manchildren are waste of breath and deserve to be shunned just like there families probably do

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>>386961281
In the good ending Sonic is sucked into a weird dimension hole and then does this pose, the same as the first trailer for Forces

>>386960974

haha, I made the exact same mistake.

I'll go with version instead.

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>>386962148
Isn't that a good thing? Means more 2D Sonic games might come around and SEGA is all for it. This is as opposed to trying to end the 2D series with one game over and over and each game just so happens to sell well enough for a sequel like what happened in the 90's

>>386953326
>I-it's delayed for optimization! W-we swear guys

When in actuality they just don't want it pirated day 01.

>>386962356
This is the fault of that /day 1 pirate/ guy

>>386961805

Well, it does explain sonic classic's presence in Forces fairly well imo.

I too wished that mania stayed its own thing but heh, it's really not that big of a deal.

It will certainly makes me want to play forces if anything.

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>>386962513

NIPPLES CONFIRMED FOR DIFFERENT ROUTES

I REPEAT

CHUCKLES CONFIRMED FOR DIFFERENT ROUTES

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=692jTW8RrDE

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>>386962290
It would, if the game it was linked to was a new 2D game and not a 3D one who shares little similarities to. Also, it would help a lot if the relevant characters progressed towards that new game instead of just staring while Sonic disappears nowhere to be seen.

It sends a nice message, but the delivery is awkward to say the least.

>>386962884
who /day14pirate/ here

>>386962992
Oh cool! That thing that was in an older game and should have been expected is in!

Not gonna lie, it's not bad news but it's a bit sad that we have to celebrate this kind of things on Sonic games due to SEGA's past attmepts.

>>386957015
The truth has been exposed

>>386953326
Most left to avoid spoilers, leaving shitposters and upset PC players behind.

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>>386962992
What the fuck is with this sound editing?

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The game's still be gonna be great but some elements of it really reeks of meddling from SEGA/Iizuka's part. I'm sure if Taxman and Stealth had their way, they would of done more original zones than remixed ones and they would have had the game be a standalone experience rather than being a prequel to a lesser game coming out later in the year.

>>386963253
>cripple-chan
What the fuck did you expect?

>>386963253
Fat fuck is likely trying to fuck with kids watching on their phone

>>386963383
That one panel they did confirms that Iizuka meddled with the story and changed how the hard-boiled heavies came to be and such.

>>386961118
Sorry, I'm not a faggot.

But we get Super Sonic and Tails, and Hyper Knuckles, right?

>>386953654
But Sonic was never good and all Sonic is bad.

How will PC ever recover?

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>>386963383
Well Tax's original plan was just to make a Sonic 1/2/3K bundle and Iizuka said "no lets make new gamu".

With that said, it's probably true that if Tax knew he was going to make a new game from the get go it'd probably have been different.

>>386953326
PC version delayed to add Denuvo.

>>386963383
>>386963645

When will some extreme autist kill Iizuka and Penders at the next con they go to?

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It'd be nice if in Forces when Mania Sonic does go home we get a few more seconds of Tyson Hesse animation.

...won't happen, but it'd be neat if Forces tied itself to Mania a little since Mania tied to Forces.

>>386964438
"enjoy your future! It's gonna be great!"

>>386964269
If we don't get 1, 2, 3K in the retro engine soon I'm going to be pissed.

For fuck sake Christian probably already has it working since he ported 1, 2 to mobile and still has the source code.

>>386965063
3 won't happen thanks to MJ

>>386965167
Replace his goddamn music then and then it let it be stupidly easy to put it back in by editing a file.

The PC Release on Crazy Taxi doesn't include the original songs. All you had to do though was replace a few OGGs and the original soundtrack was back.

>>386957015

>3

post 2 and 1

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>>386953326
no azure lake
no buy

Tyson Hesse is overrated

/v/ has had a hate boner for Sonic for a long time. You guess.

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i'm gonna pirate it day one and there's nothing you can do to stop me

>>386967807
SEGA already put a stop to that

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>>386968131
Denuvo isn't your impenetrable super duper anti-piracy method buddy

>>386968309
I'm saying you can't pirate it day one if it's delayed

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>>386968437
i was gonna pirate it anyway,broke as hell right now and i don't mind waiting

>>386968309
Ooh, are you a 1337 h4xX0rZ?

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>>386969048
Y3$ Th4t'$ R1ght M8

>>386953326
Game got delayed at the last minute for "optimization" with little to no detail on what it was. Then I believe taxman tweeted "could you imagine a drm on dna?" regarding an article not related to sonic, or something like that. So with the delay and taxman's worst possible moment tweet, the pc buyers are getting perturbed that they may have been given a 2 week wait just to attach fucking denuvo to their game. Which will piss them off and get refunded.

Liking things is for sjw cucks

should I buy sonic mania on steam or not

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>>386962193
this pretty much, are you guys here all newfags

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Because there's no physical release for some fucking reason I'm getting it for Steam regardless I don't mind waiting a bit longer for it as I'm making my way through a bunch of games anyway. Still hype as fuck lads.

when you come to los angeles you can suck my cock

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BLUNDER OF THE YEAR

>>386953326
Someone leaked it
Sega delayed the PC version by 2 weeks

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>>386962193

>>386962356
They'll pirate it anyways. Only difference now is that people like me who pre-ordered it refunded the game and will be pirating it too.

I'm still gonna buy the game on Switch, but I thought forces looked like shit so hearing that the ending to Mania is just a dumb tie-in to a game I'm not at all interested in is a pretty big letdown.
Honestly, I'm more mad about the opening theme being hot fucking garbage. They had Takenobu motherfucking Mitsuyoshi working on the game and they stuck with that shitty "Hyper Potions" group that can't seem to make anything other than really generic electronia shit. The opening animation isn't great either, Tyson's a great artist but his animation skills are a little weak.

>>386957015
It's pretty much this

>>386968437
Hopefully somebody leaks a review copy early.
It's downright unfair to us to wait 2 fucking weeks to play it.

>>386972912
Tyson is a shit tumblr-tier artist.
I agree with you on Hyper Potions, Sega has gotten bad at finding musical talent lately.

>>386973125
He's not THAT bad. His Sonic is pretty cute and his work on the comics was pretty great, the main issue is that the OP for Mania had no good sense of motion or any decent camera work; all the shots were very static and didn't put the sort of emphasis on Sonic's speed that it should have. The animation also used far too much squash and stretch type stuff, which- while good if used sparingly- just made everyone in the animation just look too bouncy.
https://youtu.be/6WeKBOPcyJk
CD still amazes me, I swear.

>>386966015
They've literally already replaced tracks in the old PC release of S3&K, so just use (or remix) those

>>386964269
The pitch was a bundle of remasters + a small new game. Iizuka said no to the remasters and instead had them remix old levels and make new ones.

>>386965063
There's no excuse for 1 & 2 to not come to PC and consoles. 3 is never happening. MJ isn't fully confirmed to be an issue (or the sole one), but more the composers he brought in.

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Master Race here. Everybody is making a mountain out of a molehill.

Waiting 2 weeks is fucking nothing. All it means console kids will do a little beta testing for us and that never hurts nowadays.

>>386973610
Doing it 4 days before release is a shitty move no matter how you spin it. Makes it near impossible to avoid spoilers and not a lot of time to form a backup plan for another system, especially if you bought the CE.

Did we get the bronze coins yet or is mark continuing to sperg about charlottesville

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>>386973467
>those sweeping landscape shots
>sonic making MASSIVE dust clouds by the sheer force of speed alone
God fucking damn, even if CD itself has some issues, the opening is still one of my favorite vidya openings of all time.

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>>386962202
This is actually pretty fucking cool, but only if Forces turns out well.

>>386961805
>1) It establishes that Classic Sonic in Forces is a progression (story wise) from Mania, when both play nothing alike making it feel awkward.

Classic Sonic is still 2D and plays as Close to classic games play as it can and no don't try and say "but it doesn't FEEL right"

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>muh Forces connection went too far
>muh PC delay went too far
>muh Nintendo leaks went too far
>because of all this, the old Mania anons completely left
There's your answer. Mania will never be the same.

>>386974254
>classic sonic in generations/forces
>playing ANYTHING like he does in actual classic games
You just proves that you know jack fucking shit about Sonic games.

>>386973610
>beta testing
The only reason your version is being delayed is to add Denuvo.

>>386974430

Perhaps but 2 weeks is more than enough time to fix a couple of potential post-release bugs.

>>386973467
Yeah I think the Mania opening is okay but it really doesn't come close to the CD opening and OVAs.
His characterization of Sonic is also different though. I won't say particularly worse, though I personally don't like it more than the OVA and CD characterizations.

>>386974276
>mania will never be the same because /v/ general ended 4 days before it was supposed to end
????

>>386974546
If they delayed sonic mania two weeks just to slap denuvo on it, then they probably don't give a shit about bugs and glitches.

The fact that they were announced simultaneously should've been enough of a hint that Forces and Mania were related. I really don't see how everyone is blindsided.

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>>386974713
>forcing Forces tie-ins into Mania
The biggest problem.

>>386975083

Whether or not Forces tie-ins are a problem will depend entirely on how good Forces is.

>>386962202
Classic sanic's model would make more sense in low-poly or cartoon rendering.

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>>386975337
>he thinks there's a chance forces won't be dogshit

It's being hyped and people want to play it so it's no longer /v/'s special little boy who could.

>>386975337
>Whether or not

>>386975024
I guess everyone thought it would be like the Sonic 4/Sonic Colors situation (but in reverse in regards to reaction)

>>386957015
i'm so glad someone drew this.

>>386975083
everyone with sense expected mania to tie in with forces when they revealed that booklet
it sucks, but doesn't ruin the entire game

toot toot sonic warrior

It looks really good. /v/ can't accept that

>>386975901
>it sucks, but doesn't ruin the entire game

Yeah, good thing the game is coming out on time for PC and the ending animation is awesome

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>>386975337
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XJit0dvO1w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XJit0dvO1w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XJit0dvO1w
Tell me now. Will Sonic Forces be good or not?

>>386976196
What the fuck, Aaron?

>>386976196
Hey can you paste that link a 4th time I still can't watch it

>>386976196
What people don't know is which version of Tails he was referring to.

>>386957359
Why wouldn't you have to start with? Get to play it while comfy in bed now.

>>386953326
My only complaint is the end of the game... linking it with Forces removes its own personality, turning it into "Forces part 1"

Not to mention that you have to complete the 100% just to get a fucking advertise like "Wanna know what happens next? Pre-order Sonic Forces today!"

I mean, the game should just be self-conclusive

>>386976196
You know this is the same guy who memes and cracks jokes about the fanbase all the time, right?

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ALL I WANT FROM SONIC MANIA IS THE MOTHERFUCKING SOUNDTRACK

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>>386976470
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XJit0dvO1w
Gee bro maybe you need a new graphix card

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>>386976478
Pint-sized Tails?

Hold up...

Sonic CD came out BEFORE Sonic 3 and S&K?

What the FUCK? I always thought that game came out in like 1997 at the end of MD life

>>386976478
he was obviously referring to infinity, the sonic 2 8-bit tails from bad ending

>>386976710
Finally got it thanks

Here's 5 times just in case others werent as lucky as I am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XJit0dvO1w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XJit0dvO1w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XJit0dvO1w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XJit0dvO1w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XJit0dvO1w

>>386976751
Developed alongside Sonic 2 also, that's why it feels closer to 1.

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>>386976590
It clearly adds up to this.

>>386953326
>I don't understand the hate of this game.
Because there's none you retarded falseflagger

>>386976751
It started development after Sonic 1, in fact chronologically takes place before 2

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>>386976196
This would be the second time he's died then.

>>386976890
Except we've already seen Tails in scenes with Sonic and Infinite

>>386976890
That disappears line makes sense with how Mania ends

does anyone have the sonic mania stage list?

>>386977032
>Joins the fight when Sonic is saved

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>>386976890
>sonic "disappears"
Good Ending to Sonic Mania
>the world goes shit
Green Hill fucked over
>3 playable characters
Sonic, Classic Sonic, Avatar
>"the resistance"
>Knuckles, Amy, the chaotix
Confirmed.
>NO Tails.
Something happens after the beginning of the game where Tails is with Sonic.

Fuck this shit

>>386977104
>Link posted said Tails DIES

>>386977028
>he
That's obviously a girl you fag

>>386977252
Yeah, obviously that would happen towards the end.

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>>386953326
I uploaded a Sonic Mania 3DS theme if anyone cares.
https://3dsthem.es/15087

>>386977252
That's because he meant Infinite, who is actually Tails from the timeline where Sonic didn't rescue him.

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It was fucking true.

>>386977416
THIS
It explains the ears on Infinite.
We haven't even seen Tails' ending in Mania.

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the worst part of the Tie-in with Forces for me is just the fact that you can see it as Izuka using Taxman's pitch as an excuse for re-using Generations' classic sonic gameplay, which is frankly shit.

>>386977663
His Tail looks the same as well.

>>386953526
> denuvo
I was literally about to hit the pre order on steam when I found out. It would be my first pre order ever despite all my principles. Guess I am pirating this instead.

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>>386958845
Me, Xbonks.
Feels good man.

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>>386975631
>"people" are seriously thinking that a romhack has a chance to compare with S3K
I can't wait to see your disappointed posts.

>>386962202
I hate the generations classic sonic model.

>>386977864
>Takashi Iizuka: Sonic Generations was born out of the desire to provide something really interesting for the 20th anniversary of Sonic The Hedgehog, that was the first time we brought the Classic Sonic into a game with Modern Sonic. We were surprised how much people enjoyed the gameplay and the character, and it is something we’re very aware of now that people really love Classic Sonic.

Kys. Classic Sonic is a product of nostalgiafags blindly praising it.

>>386977081
Green Hill
Chemical Plant
Studiopolis
Flying Battery
Press Garden
Stardust Speedway
Hydrocity
Mirage Saloon
Oil Ocean
Lava Reef
Metallic Madness
Titanic Monarch

>>386977908
The movement of said tail also makes it seem like his other was cut off. It's clearly his left tail.

>>386978165
Look at all those new stages wow

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>steals drop dash and puts it in forces
>connects game to his edgy OC
>makes Taxman & co. rehash levels already rehashed in Generations
>only lets them make 4 original levels
>delays PC release because Nintendo let a leaker play Mania on the Switch

Did you rike it?

>>386976751
CD and 2 were in development at the same time.

Naka and many other people in Sonic Team moved to San Francisco to develop 2, while Naoto Oshima (Sonic's creator) stayed behind and formed a new team to make CD.

>>386978302
Eh, can't say I'm not a bit disappointed. But the Act 2s make up for it to me.

>>386978037
Why is it a romhack if it's built from the ground up on Taxman's engine?

>>386978314
DON'T

I think Infinite is alright. Eggman is and will always be best villain, but Infinite is shaping up to being better than any post 06 villains... assuming the fight doesn't suck like Time Eater did.

>>386978149

I don't understand how they're nostalgiafags, Generations classic sonic played like absolute Aids compared to the actual original games.

>>386978491

>but Infinite is shaping up to being better than any post 06 villains

That's not a high bar to begin with.

>Dark Gaia wasn't even a character
>Colors was just Eggman
>Generations was Eggman and Eggman
>Deadly Six were terrible
>lol lyric

His only competition is Merlina if you count the Storybook games.

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>>386958845

/ps4/ here

doesn't that mean I get it first even?

7.8/10 too much delays

>>386960604
People fucking hated the thought of it for months beforehand, anon, and most such as I still do.

>>386978119
Same
I hate Hesse Sonic too

Can't wait for Mania to be out so that we actually get some Forces news

>>386978485
GO

>>386978747
TOO

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>>386978653

>His only competition is Merlina if you count the Storybook games.

all two of them.

remember when THAT was supposed to start a spin off series?

>>386978838
FAR

>>386976751
You're thinking on the 1996 PC Port.
The original Sega CD version came out in 1993.

>>386978838
FAST

>>386978879
One thing I can give Secret Rings credit for, like all sonic games, is a good soundtrack.

No, Chronicles doesn't count as a sonic game

>>386978037
Nobody who have more than 2 brain cells expected this to be as good as 3K

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These are all just egg robos Infinite changed.

>>386978529
Do you think that those people care or even played it recently?

It's small Sonic on 2D stages, more than enough to milk the shit out of it.

>>386973610
>Waiting 2 weeks is fucking nothing.
It's everything you fucking cuck.
Kill yourself you utter millennial mong.

>Mania is $20
>Forces is $40
>together it's $60 worth of mostly rehashed stages

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Picking up where I left off with Sonic Adventure DX (dreamcast mod), just got to Egg Carrier with Sonic before I had to stop. I plan on playing for the next 5 hours

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlyU1mtqIEE

Probably because the people who hate Sonic are resorting to the "Mania is a glorified romhack" excuse.

They're not completely wrong, but still, it's not good to just have one argument

>>386973467
>His Sonic is pretty cute
It's too cute for me. I cannot stand this over-infantilization of Classic Sonic that started with Generations.

>>386979194
play a good game instead

>>386979040
I unironically believe this. It explains why Chaos slightly glitches and Shadow has weird eyes in that one cutscene.

>>386977607
You know, I made that image to shitpost with and I never actually believed it

I guess I deserve what happened

>>386979152
>Green Hill Zone returns for Forces
>"OMGG ALL THE STAGES IN FORCES R REHASHES SONIC SUX"

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>>386979034
So after a decade of bitching, classic """fans""" only expected to have a mediocre game.

Maybe you people should've just moved on to Mario or something.

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>>386979286
You doomed us all anon, I hope it was worth the (you)s.

>>386978165
Two Weeks Zone

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>>386975337
I think it'll be good. Unleashed, Generations, and Colors were fun. I'm also glad to see some edginess back after the overly goofy shit in Colors and Lost World.

>>386979414
I bet it was

>>386979232
>hate Sonic
I love Sonic and was excited for classic to return, which is why I'm disappointed at the lack of ambition

I know most people don't give a shit but god, I can tell that Mania will be awful to play casually

>>386953326
The leak killed the Hype so hard that the game got delayed on PC

>>386979040
Imagine being the egg robo that gets upgraded to the red guy from Lost World while the others get Chaos, Metal Sonic and Shadow.

>>386979448
No. Every last bit of gameplay footage we've seen confirms Forces is garbage, and this is the best stuff Sega can show of the game. It doesn't even have the mindless spectacle of previous boost games, so there's nothing there.

>>386979583
You didn't even play it faggot

>>386979652
This

>>386979571
The leak put many into ghost mode so they can avoid spoilers. Which killed the hype on /v/

>>386979652
>You didn't even play it
Here's the thing: I don't need to. I can form a judgement about a game from visuals alone.

>>386958845
PC and switchfag here. Can't wait to play it comfy in bed. I'll commit sudoku if it's 720p docked tho.

>>386979713
I can form a judgement of the game being shit just by it being boost to win.

>>386979795
Exactly.

trophy list when

>>386979713
>Being pretentious enough to think that not only can he judge gameplay perfectly by doing nothing but looking at it, but also that whatever his "perfect judgement" of said gameplay is will be fact.

>>386979795
>Thinking the inclusion of a mechanic inherently makes the game bad.

>>386979034
Why shouldn't people expect a game better than something released decades ago?

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>>386979713
>Twitch generation

>>386980016
>pretentious
Nothing pretentious about being able to judge a game's quality without playing it.

>>386980064
>>Twitch
I follow the tradition of the legendary Yamauchi Hiroshi himself.

>>386980016
No, but I think centering the game around 75% 2D Sections that have god-awful controls and 25% garbage rollercoaster segments makes it bad.

>>386979414
The big fluffy tail really hurts the edgy look he's going for.

>>386980158
>Completely ignored my argument and even prove it

>>386980268
>Completely left out the speed sections, where the boost is mainly used, undermining the "Boost to win is shit" argument

>>386979414
Holy shit, looking at Infinite like this I can really see the Tails in him

>>386980467
What argument? All you're doing is abusing the quotation function to whine about how you can't possibly judge a garbage game until you've endured playing it yourself.

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>>386980390

>>386980467
There shouldn't be any boost sections because they are crap virtual rollercoaster rides for autists.

>>386980537
>Infinite is Tails from the bad ending of Sonic 2 (Game gear)
deepest lore

>>386979040
i know this whole thing is silly, but zavok is really distracting

I don't get it, is some Genesis era sonic game getting a re-release or is this original cut content being put into its own game? I don't follow Sonic whatsoever but this game just looks like more of the same, nothing new to get me excited over.

>>386980564
My argument was that you were being arrogant enough to say that a game is shit not only just by looking at it, but then going as far as to state your opinion as the only right one and not give anyone else a chance.

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Blue sphere till Mania (pc) because I have nowhere else to shill in
smashcast dot tv slash BlueSphereAnon

>>386980714
It's old content + 4 new levels

>>386958845
Have my digital wallet codes ready for Switch and Xbone purchases, of course already have my PC version ordered and gifted a PC copy to my friend.

>>386980641
I've played with the boost formula, and many times the game requires you to act while boosting, whether it's to dodge an obstacle, collect rings, or destroy enemies for a higher score. Clearly you didn't even play any of the boost games and just watched an expert play it.

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>>386980670
That's why he snarkily calls him saviour, because he didn't save him.

>>386961058
Me, anon. I'll get it on Switch once it launches.

At the end of the day the only thing I'm disappointed in is the fact that there's only 4 new stages instead of 5 since everyone assumed each heavy was linked to one. The returning stage list is fantastic and I have nothing to complain about on that end.

>>386953326
>Faggots spoil themselves and ruin it for themselves
>Shitposters join in the fun
It happens literally every time a game is leaked

>>386980696
He really doesn't fit among other Sonic characters does he.

>>386981050
Nope not at all.

>>386980954
What if the pixels surrounding Infinite are because he literally comes from the second dimension

>>386980954
I still believe Infinite is the Avatar from a bad future, would be interesting if it's really Tails though.

>>386981170
What if Infinite is Eggman's OC?

>>386981340
He could also be a childhood friend of the player avatar

>>386959923
Funny, I thought I was the only one who thought of Mania as that.

I'm assuming that after this Taxman and Headcannon will be working on Sonic 5, which will have completely brand new zones.

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>>386981050

He wouldn't look so out of place if they dug up some of the more obscure baddies for the shot, but the shoestring budget only gets them so far.

>>386981309
The problem with that idea is that you can clearly see what animal he is by the tail and ears, and there's no fox option. And if there was it would be pretty obvious if he was the evil version of the avatar once you saw what he looked like in your own game.

>>386981460
I like Black Doom

Also fuck you for reminding me that Chronicles killed off the echidnas forever.

>>386959274
I mean, he hasn't even commented a single thing on this one or Forces yet

>>386981460
Who's the green squirrel nerd? Seems like the most evil thing he's capable of is raiding Amy's panty drawer.

With this new info regarding Forces, has anyone taken another look at Infinite's theme to see if the lyrics make more sense?

>>386981680
gonna listen to it right now

>>386961510
Actually we had it only once, in 2003.

>>386981680
Other than the fact the first few lines are referring to Shadow, Chaos, Metal and the guy from Lost World, no.

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>>386973467
>CD still amazes me, I swear.
Worth a read.
http://jonathantheharris.blogspot.fi/2011/06/sonic-cd-intro-movie.html

I wonder if Tyson has ever read this one.

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>>386978740
>>386978119
Me too. This is the only real Classic Sonic to me along with the 2D games' sprites.

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>>386981596
Yeah Chronicles did it.

>>386981680
>"after all this time you're back for more"
That's gotta be referring to Pint-Sized Sonic

I want Ice Cap in as DLC. I could not care less about the music, I just want to skateboard down an icy mountain and explore a shiny winter cave.

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>>386981680

>several lines about illusions and "opening your eyes"

>Forces turns out to be a giant illusion made for Classic and Modern Sonic

>>386982156
>pint-sized
When did this meme start?

I don't think you fucker truly appreciate that Team Hooligan is the boss of Mirage Saloon

>>386982325
>Sonic is actually in a coma and Infinite is the doctor trying to wake Sonic up out of it

Is what all the theorists will be like

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>>386980670
>Infinite is Tails from the bad ending of Sonic 2 (

>>386980954
>That's why he snarkily calls him saviour

DEEPEST FUCKING LORE

>>386974254

Nigger they can't even get Sonic's core mechanic like rolling to work correctly in Forces and you think the only difference is not feeling right?

>>386982367
https://youtu.be/uvl8ajOmXS8?t=28s

>>386981680
>"I WAS BORN IN THIS PAIN, IT ONLY HURTS IF YOU LET IT."
refers to sonic stuck in his franchise as a whole and telling his consumers that the PC release delay and good ending of mania connecting to forces will only hurt you if you let it. obviously.

>>386982367
A bunch of autists think Classic in Forces isn't actually Classic but a third Sonic from Mania's timeline/dimension/whateverthefuck and call him "pint-sized" because Eggman calls him that in a boss fight, ignoring the fact that he's been referred to as Classic Sonic in all the marketing for the game.

>>386982572
Nah, it's just edge

>>386981460
>E-102
Never forget

>>386982635
It's a way of differentiating him from the Classic Sonic that is just the past version of Modern Sonic like in Generations.

>>386960974
Did the opposite, bought PC CE, just bought it on PS4, sorry Sonic bro.

>>386980748
I'm saying you're a fucking moron for thinking otherwise, and I'm right.

>>386979040
>HBH are just normal Egg Robots at the start of the game
>become HBH after the stone reacts
>we see Heavy Magic can transform into Team Hooligan

Holy shit you are onto something

I also assume Heavy King will be a boss on his own

>>386982828
I'm 99% sure this is someone else because there's no way that guy came back just to prove my point on (quite obviously) purpose.

>>386982156
(I won't stop until they know my name)

>>386982778
No they literally mean that mania sonic is not classic sonic after more time has passed despite the indisputable fact that mania is a direct sequel to S3&K

Taxman is a hack. I made a mistake trusting him.

>>386983328
But none of Mania's (minor) problems are his fault.

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>>386979040
>>386979271
You're right guys.
First Shadow's eyes and Chaos is glitchy as fuck too

>2 weeks delay to implement denuvo

OK

>>386983619
>I-Its Sega and the guy developing an entirely different sonic games fault, n-not based taxman
Kill yourself you retarded fanboy.

>>386983676
Would not be surprised if just errors.

Then again, would not be surprised if there really is something here.

>>386983619
he's still a little nigger boy that eats all the grapes

Anyone have the image with Mania's levels listed next to the title they are from? Just for curiosity's sake.

>>386983840
Maybe you should actually do your research and find out that Sega and Iizuka did have input in the game, you moron.

>>386957015
THIS SO MUCH THIS.

Especially that Adventurecuck that falseflagged on every single thread since the leak. FUCK YOU

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>>386980938
>Clearly you didn't even play any of the boost games and just watched an expert play it.
What did he mean by this?

>>386983840
Programmers don't make the call to delay a game or implement DRM or tie the game into another in the final ending. Also Iizuka is involved in this game too.

>>386953326

>What happened here?
All this wait for a lazy game with barely new content. PC delay because some faggot leaked it on a console UNRELATED TO PC. Local only multiplayer when a Taxman port (Sonic 2) had online multi that worked well. Basically..it's shit, and Forces will sell better in the long run.

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>>386983919

>>386983840
>taxman is a hack because random grey suits at the top of sega decided to delay the game to shove in more drms as they fell for the shitposting on cripplechan stream

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Streaming Sonic Adventure DX while I wait for Mania. I just beat the Sonic storyline, about to start Tail's storyline.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlyU1mtqIEE

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BEFORE THE FINAL BLOW WAS STRUCK

I TORE OPEN A PORTAL IN TIME

AND FLUNG HIM INTO THE FUTURE

>>386982778
>a past version of modern sonic from generations
so.. classic sonic.

Taxman worked /v/ into a shoot.

>>386953326
>constant hype threads
>leaks start to happen
>everyone who actually cares about the game bails to avoid spoilers
>game has 1 (one) fewer brand new stage than the amount that everyone was predicting in every thread
>shitposters who were consistently shut down in the hype threads arrive in droves to call it a shitty romhack unopposed
What a shitshow.
The only actually bad thing about the game is the retarded PC delay to add DRM which will inconvenience paying customers, do nothing to actually stop pirates, and hurt the game's reputation.

>>386984061
Isn't mirage saloon similar to that one sandy desert level in that Sega Genesis Sonic game?

>>386977243
>>386980390
OH FUCK I GET IT NOW HE HAS TWO TAILS ONE IS IN THE BACK OF HIS HEAD OH FUCK IT ACTUALLY IS TAILS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

that's strange.

>>386984078
Yes, that's Classic Sonic, the one in Forces is from a different timeline, not just a different time.

>>386981680
>"So look around you and tell me what you really see. I never end and that's the difference in you and me, Cause when your time is up and everything is falling down, it's only me and you, who is gonna save you now?"

That has to be referring to the rookie because at some point he's going to battle against Infinite despite Sonic being taken out of the picture, even further with the following

>"So look around you and tell me what you really see, You live a lie and that's the difference in you and me. I have the power let me show you what it's all about, It's only me and you, who is gonna save you now?"
>>386984076
Fug

>>386984184

Mirage Saloon is a Wild West themed desert as opposed to Sandopolis' Saharan motifs.

>People would rather spin fiction about the structure of Manias development team than admit they fucked up blindly trusting some guy who did a decent job porting 3 games (a task given to literally who shit tier studios that manage to do good jobs all the time because it isnt renotely demanding)
Fucking hilarious.

>>386984252
>He cut off one of his Tails and made it his hair
Tails went full edge.

>>386980954
oops i forgot to tag the image that made me see that
>>386984252

>>386984030
"You've played 10 hours"

Looks like somebody doesn't practice what he preaches.

It also looks like somebody only revisits Act 1 since he just remembers what was bad in Act 2 of each stage because "Muh classic games" and "boost is for mindless autists".

Besides, we have no proof that you played Colors, Unleashed, or even Rush.

>>386984295
Of course. Generations is a completely different event separate from Infinite's fuckery. The one in Forces is clearly Mania Sonic, which is clearly Sonic who got plucked into some bullshit situation while he's at the very beginning of his adventure in SA3.

>>386984375
What fiction would that be?

There's no hate on the game itself besides that one autistic shitposter who thinks nobody knows he's endlessly samefagging, but PCfags are hating on Sega because they made a stupid move by delaying it to implement DRM.

>>386984441
Or you could just not even be the same person since it's really easy to just edit (You)s on.

>>386961510
>Then again in 2008
Unleashed bore 0 resemblance to an Adventure game, outside of having the word "adventure" in the title by coincidence.

06 though absolutely was Adventure 3, no question.

>>386953526
>infinite sound effect

The all-emerald ending is Sonic getting sucked into a portal with the purple gem. It's literally leading in to Sonic Forces and showing why Classic Sonic is in it.

What's the best version of Sonic 2? I wanna replay it

>>386984581
The 3DS version by M2.

>>386984581
In my opinion, it's the version on the app store. It's only 3 bucks.

>>386982960
So underneath that dark red aura his fur is actually light orange.

>>386983619
The game doesn't have any minor problems. It doesn't have any compelling strengths either.

People are just "hyped" for it because they would look bad if they didn't after so many years bitching and asking for a "real sonic"

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>>386978740
>>386982003
I dunno I like Hesse's designs, it's like an evolution of the Toei designs that allows for more expression, they might just be my favorite Sonic Character style.

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>>386984396
He had a really bad day.

>>386972802
This is such a stupid image. The problems with Sonic games has never really been the inclusion of non-Sonic characters, and DEFINITELY has never been 'same old gameplay.' If anything the constant inability to stick to anything or a formula has been one of the franchise's major downfalls. They never stick with any sort of tone or gameplay style or overall series direction, and try to reinvent things with practically every game.

>>386984581
1 and 2 are definitive on 3ds and as an added bonus Taxman never touched those versions.

>>386953326
Hipster scum and shitposting retards proclaiming that Sonic was never good in the first place.

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>>386984076

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Where do the emeralds go when people go super?

>>386980670
>>386982441
>>386980954
>Infinite is Tails from the bad ending of Sonic 2 (Game gear)
I'd be 100% okay with this.

>>386984808
Nice strawman

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>>386979040
This makes a LOT of sense and now that the games are confirmed to be linked it raises as a genuine possibility.

Huh. I've been opposed to the whole linking games thing but this is something actually cool and interesting if true.

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>>386984076

BUDDY! YOU HAVE INFINITE'S POWERS!

>>386978302
I was expecting it, I wouldn't have minded another Sonic 1 level other than Green HIll Zone. Spring Yard Zone with Casino Nights elements sprinkled in maybe?

>>386981460


wow, this picture really shows how much of a mess this franchise became.

And adventure fags wonder why classicfags loath everything after the genesis era.

>eggman nega

How can you be so creatively hollow that you create Eggman nega?

>>386984895
It WOULD make sense considering the timeline in Forces is basically if Sonic never helped, but I highly doubt Sonic Team is competent enough to even dig that much to think of such an idea.

It sounds like something Nintendo would do (and have done with a ton of the references in Super Mario Odyssey).