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Fuck...
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Is Super Knuckles in the game? This is very important.
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>>386943521
Nobody knows yet, because the one leaker is so fucking bad at the game he was unable to get all 7 emeralds.
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Reminder it's just 5 Redditors from r/PCmasterrace shitposting about this game

It's going to be good
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>>386943738
>No Unlockable Amy/Rosy
>No Unlockable Metal Sonic
>No Angel Island
>No Mushroom Hill
>No Mystic Cave
>No Spring Yard
>PC version delayed for DRM

It's shit.
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While the forces tie in was a really stupid decision in the context of mania it's really only a small scene and a sound effect. It was a massive mistake and it's likely not the fault of the taxman and his team. Don't pass over this game because of it. It doesn't invalidate the work they did on the gameplay or level design. The taxman won't go anywhere if this game does well and I believe it will. And if he stays it means another one of these.
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>>386943878
>>No Angel Island
>>No Mushroom Hill
>>No Spring Yard
no-one wanted or expected these
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What do Adventurefags think of Sonic World?
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>>386944062
Fuck you, I did, they are the best stages. Instead they put in shitty fucking stages that I've always hated like oil ocean and fucking hydrocity. This game can eat shit, I guess I'll just go back to playing romhacks.
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>>386943968
What tie in? Can you post it?
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>>386943672
How come there is a final boss SUper Sonic footage?
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>>386943878
>No Angel Island
>No Mushroom Hill
>No Spring Yard
These suck, though.
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>>386944128
I love it, but the engine crashes alot on Windows 10. I can't wait for r8, but the owner seems to be dragging his fucking feet with the release.
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>>386944143
Well you dont matter, so go eat a poo in the loo.
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>>386944205
>>386944062
Explain why they suck, they have the best atmosphere of all of the levels
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>>386944173
It's on youtube. Just search for sonic mania good ending.
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>>386944173
The ending of the Super Sonic Fight.
the gem that Eggman has been using all game opens a wormhole that sucks in Sonic. Based on it's look and sound effect whenever Eggman uses it, it's implied to be Infinite's gem.
https://youtu.be/RVhPQHdftaE
(Spoilers duh)
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People still talking about this rehashit? God...
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>>386943968
It's fine; the shitposting will end after the game comes out.

And then we can all shit on Forces when it releases.
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>>386944329
So it's just speculation. Sheesh, what drama queens
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I've never played any of the 2D Sonics other than the GBA ones, which ones are worth playing today? I saw a lot of people Shitting on 1 in comparison to the later games.
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>>386944128
You mean from Sonic Jam? It's pretty cool. I think it could have made a decent/good full game if they sped him up a bit and added the spin dash.

I like both classic and adventure. Sonic could easily work in 3D if it were just speed levels and the dev team focused hard on ironing out bugs. Also no story beyond fight eggman.
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>>386943672
what leaks? link? twitch account I can stream?
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>>386944501
I find it to be highly likely, but if taxman's smart he'll make his sequel such that it can also be interpreted that sonic is teleported straight to where he wants him to be next.
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>>386944285
They aren't that fun.
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>>386944520
No the fangame Sonic World, the one with 50 bajillion characters and level ports from different games and a chao garden. It's pretty decent gameplay-wise, but the crashes for windows 10 are annoying.
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>>386944062
we got lava reef so i'm happy
best level never gets any love
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>>386944501
It's pretty inexplicable cliffhanger ending and, prior to that ending, there was skepticism. Now more people seem to believe the possibility.

>>386944563
Somebody got the game early (Switch version) because a store broke street date. They streamed it (some dude from 2x4Chan).
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>>386944520
I'm talking about a free fan game.
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>>386944615
Fuck your opinion, you don't even like sonic
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>>386944143
>hydrocity is bad
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>>386944520
that's a very fair assessment of adventure
have a nice day anon
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>>386944812
>he likes water stages in Sonic games
Get aids and fucking die
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Give it to me straight: if I don't know much more than what's been publicized up until the street date was broken, is there stuff in the game that's worth not spoiling for myself (cool moments and unexpected retro zones, etc.)?
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>>386944932
I like all the water stages in classic sanics
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>>386944932
>hydrocity is bad because hydro
what a fag
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>>386944997
The boss battles are pretty impressive.
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>>386944329

Thats it? All the screeching about it made it seem way worse? While it seems like a shitty ending it can lead to anywhere.
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>>386944932
Hydrocity is literally the only good one.
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>>386944143
granted Oil Ocean isn't the easiest level ever but dat bass.

and its not that hard.
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>>386945062
I think most people point to it being linked to Forces because of the pose Sonic does at the end (which looks similar to Classic Sonic's pose at the end of Forces).
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>>386945052
The only boss fight I know of beyond the GHZ boss is that the CPZ boss is the Mean Bean Machine nod.
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>>386945013
>>386945048
>>386945078
I hope the bubbles never come up and you fucking drown you abysmal shit-eating primate
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>>386944694
is it this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SfLs6kdYxU

>some dude from ate chan
...you tried.
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>>386944506
1, 2, Sonic CD (the ports, not the original), Sonic 3 Complete (basically the ideal Sonic 3 experience unless you want to be some purist).

Sonic 1 isn't bad, it's just not got things like Sonic's Spindash. It's best to get the game on mobile if you have it because of the Taxman ports being superior with more features (Taxman is the guy working on Sonic Mania now).
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>>386945229
>muh drowning!
>m-muh scary music! ;_;
back to youtube comments section with you
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>>386944671 What the actual fuck is this image?
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>>386945229
>drowning in Hydrocity
Admit it, you hate it because you're bad.
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>>386944456
If the shitposting ends after a game comes out, that means the game was only okay. The mark of a truly great game is when it continues to make /v/ uncontrollably furious for months, or even years after its release.
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>>386945357
The start of the Lava Reef boss area but with some shitty effects?
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>>386944062
oh look. sonic defense force is out today...
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>>386943469
>2017
>not owning a backup console in case publisher or developer fucks the PC version up
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>>386945245
If you're talking about the ending, I posted it earlier.
If you're talking about the sound effect, somebody make a clip comparing the two earlier, but I don't have the link on me right now.
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>>386945438 I'm a poorfag okay?
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>>386945438
>2017 having a job
You are either gay, a nigger, or a woman. Nobody else can get jobs in this country.
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>>386945415
REAL LAVA REEF ZONE HOURS NIGGA
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>>386945485
I've seen second hand PS4s go for $99. It's not that expensive to get a current console second hand mid gen, with the Switch being the only exception.
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>>386945424
What does the Sonic Defense Force do?
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>>386945447
wasn't replying to you, "is this the leak"
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>>386945503
Holy shit those are MASSIVE mental gymnastics. I think white males have the least unemployment of almost anyone. Niggers are the ones on welfare.
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>>386945558 I can't afford Sonic Mania.
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>>386945503
>You are either gay, a nigger, or a woman. Nobody else can get jobs in this country.

Jokes on you, I'm a straight white male and I assume you're talking about America. If that's the case, double jokes on you because I'm from the UK.
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>>386945503
t. fat 38-year-old man that still lives in his mother's basement
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>>386945606
Dude, how poor do you have to be to not afford $20?
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>>386945594
Oh, sorry.
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>>386943469
WOAAAAAH MY HEAD'S SPINNING!
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>>386945606

>He can't afford $20

What the heck anon, why are you so poor?
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>>386944329
Honestly, I liked that ending
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Sonic is literally the dark souls of 2D platformers.
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>>386944329
All this means is that the gem will likely show up in Forces

And maybe Heavy King
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>>386944062
>>386944205
Speak for yourself. Angel Island is a great first stage.
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>>386945438

sound advice since the dawn of gaming
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>>386945678 I only earn barely enough money to buy food, gas and pay my rent. I rarely get any money to save up.
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>>386945727
Thanks for predicting Polygon's review.
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Am I the only one that really likes metallic madness in mania? The music is honestly great and I love the changes and set pieces they put in it. I only wish they put the bad future in as well.
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>>386945503
Get a certification or a degree, fast food and retail aren't the only fucking jobs in this country. I swear, all I ever hear from your retarded NEETs is that and '9 to 5 hurr Durr.

I don't play Sonic vidya but seeing your post got me annoyed as fuck.
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>>386945838
Music is good, you get to go into the background of the stage, and they kept the mini sonic gimmick too. Boss of act 2 is hilarious as well. Looks pretty damn legit, cannot wait to see knuckles route.
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>>386945784
O-Oh my...

Do you need donations or something? Sorry if I sounded like an asshole earlier. I could donate $5 towards Mania for you.
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Does mania have online multiplayer? Is it coop?
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Last two digits will be Sonic Mania's metascore.
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>that part of Flying Battery zone where you have to wait for the moving log platforms and jump onto the button surrounded by flames.

This is absolute cancer. I really hope Mani's doesn't have it.
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>>386945928
DON'T DO THIS TO ME
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>>386945747
angel island is superior, but some people's expectations are baffling at least
we knew green hill zone is back to haunt us again since day 1
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>>386945928
RIP
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>>386945872
I already have a certification as both an electrician and in PC repair, that doesn't mean shit.
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>>386945928
OH SHIT
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>>386944520
He's talking about this.
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>>386945895 It's fine dude. I'm able to stay alive on what I'm making. But if you could gift it to me on Steam or something that would be cool.
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>>386945735
>Heavy King shows up in Forces
This is the only good thing that can come out of this.
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>>386945993
I landed all of my IT jobs without any certs.

I've since gotten a Net+ cert and I'm going to try to get an MCSA in Office 365 in the next month.
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>>386945928
roll
>>386945902
It's all local besides leaderboards
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>>386946001
Why did you showcase such a shitty stage?
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>>386945838
it is one of the best levels in mania, the only downside is a1 seems too short; leaker got to the boss in 1 and a half minute.
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>92 posts
>33 posters
Forces tie-in samefag, show yourself.
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>>386945928
What went wrong, /v/?
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>>386946037
Kudos to you, but I'm also fat, retarded, and socially awkward, and they don't hire autistic people ever.
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>>386946024
I'd rather gift it to people if it's on sale. If I happen to see you in another thread during a steam sale, I'll happily help you out.
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>>386945503
I'm a cis shitlord with a job you fucking nutsack

Don't talk to me or my job ever again
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>>386946109
Sonic was never good.
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>>386946084
If you mean the dude talking about the possibility of Forces tie-ing in, that's me.
But I'm just repeating what others have said/mentioned in these threads.
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>>386945993
And you can't land an electrician job, union or non-union? Learn to make connections, anon.
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>>386946178
If you disagree you can call the cops
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>>386946172
Fucking hire me then you actual fucking pile of dogshit
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>>386946178
hi arin
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>>386945928
Get out IGN
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>>386946146 That's reasonable.
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>>386946224
Fuck no, I'm bad with people. I can wire an entire house but can't talk to people. A cert is meaningless if you're autistic.
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>>386944205
Dab on the haters
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>>386945993
>>386946037
>>386946121

Seconding this anon. I had to start as a temp though. When they saw I was eager to work, and I put in the hours I got a job. Been there 13 years.

Also, there are lots of fat, retarded, socially awkward autistic people in IT. You'd be surprised.
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>>386945727
Go to sleep Brian Crecente
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>>386946241
I don't employ people you shit sucking bag of fuck

Go to a goddamn job fair and have some build you a reasonable resume you ingrown ass hair, you
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>>386946121
>Fat
Hit the gym
>Retarded
You have those two certs, not exactly
>Socially awkward
Talk to people more then. At least learn how to pass interviews with flying colors

Sounds like you're just making excuses and then beat yourself down even more when you don't pass a job interview, instead of remembering what you said or did wrong and fixing it.
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>>386945630
HA
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>>386946396
>tfw 4 year job gap
LOL
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Who will /speedrun/ it here ?
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>>386946350
What if they dab back?
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>>386946482
Bullshit on your resume, make up something. No one at job fairs is ever gonna do background checks on you right there and then.
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What's his name again?
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>>386946350
Fuck off stop trying to nationalise the railways
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The ending is supposed to compensate for your effort to beat the game. Instead it forces you to eat shit. This doesn't feel right at all.
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>>386946641
Netorary
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>>386946641 My favorite character, Cucky.
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>>386946701
Iizuka thinks the plot twist of Mania being a prequel to Forces is supposed be a worthy compensation.
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>>386946641
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>>386944329
>the time counter during the entirety of the fight
jesus
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>>386946701
>The ending is supposed to compensate for your effort to beat the game. Instead it's Forces.
ftfy
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>>386946605
I'm very bad at lying, you would think that would be a good trait for an employer. Instead in past jobs I've been asked to lie, and got written up for not producing results. Being an honest person gets you absolutely nowhere if you want a job.
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>>386945229
I think they fixed it in Mania so that the bubble does not dissapear if Tails for some reason gets it before you
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>>386944501
No it's fact. You can also see the gem on infinite's neck.
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>>386946641
>Cuckey cucks Sonic by taking Amy
>Cuckey cucks Knuckles by taking Rouge
>Cuckey cucks Silver by taking Blaze
>Cuckey cucks Tails by eating's Cream's shit instead of Tails'
>Cuckey cucks Shadow by dry humping Maria's corpse

Can anyone stop this asshole?
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>>386946906
Only a cold, unfeeling robot.
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>>386946979
>Cuckey cucks Metal Sonic by fucking Robotnik's ass

What now, bitch?
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>>386946876
The fuck? You're not being asked to dig a hole for a body, it's a job. Get one already.

Stop making excuses and git!
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>>386946906
Is there even any way to cuck Robotnik outside of killing Sonic or conquering the world?
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>>386946979
I've given up on Amy being playable but come on, I want to find out if they at least gave us Metal Sonic. Fucking shit leaker.
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>>386946047
>It's all local

Fuck this game
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>>386945727
>Sonic
>Ever being hard
>With the way rings work
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>>386947026
>Implying Metal Sonic cares that badly
He'd probably care more if it were Sonic to be frank.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cBjnFaGwT0
New Cybershell video
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>>386945503
White men on average do better than everyone else in the country.
White men make more money, have the better jobs, and have more wealth than gay, blacks and women.
The only white men who think that they can't get a job because other people are medicore white men.

White men who don't work hard, don't try, and then get bitter when a woman or black person works harder and becomes better than them as if they were owed a good paying job by birthright.
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>>386943469
>and how long will your game be delayed PC?
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>>386947119
>boss checkpoint forces you to fight him without rings
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I preordered Sonic Mania on Steam with a giftcard and then they delay it, and the money I'd use to buy it on console is now stuck on Steam because of this, SEGA really cucked me hardcore
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>>386947219
Cybershell, we know it's you.
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>>386947219
fuck off cybershell
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What's your favorite remixed stage or new stage?
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>>386947219
Fuck off cybershell shill
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>>386947219
this guy isn't even entertaining. go away
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>>386947298
>>386947336
Busted..
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I hope Cybershill gets aids and dies
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>>386947487
if every other word out of his mouth wasn't "fuck" i'd be subscribed
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God, I fucking hope SEGA goes bankrupt. They're expecting me to pirate Mania instead of buying it legally, right? I'll be sure to live up to that expectation.
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My favourite zones ever are hydrocity and lava reef.
They are both in.
This is getting real good, no problems with the delay.
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>>386947119
Yeah, its not like its possible to have 12 gameovers on one level, amirite guys ?
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Watch as Mania is a packaged deal for Forces.
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>>386947754
I hope you fucking die
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>>386947219
Use your trip.
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So where are all my mania bros at? I haven't seen Shaqposter, Tomposter, the rosyfags, the "real Sonic 4" guy, the Utopia guy, the happy anime poster, etc. since those comfy Mania threads really.

You think the shitposting and leaks killed them all?
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Why isn't anyone hoping Iizuka gets aids and dies?
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>>386947763
Dude, your joke is bad and you should feel bad.

Sonic is not hard, that mark is an idiot.
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>>386947813
Some people are tense as fuck here, I wonder why
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>>386948015
Shaqposter flipped the fuck out. Rosyfags? I'm the last of my kind. Dunno about the rest.
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Cybershell is here post the leaks
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>>386948015
They saw Mania was trash and fucked off.
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>>386948015
most of the regular autists probably stopped coming to /v/ the moment leaks started surfacing
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>>386948139
Former Rosyfag here. How can you still be one when there's only 0.0001% chance of her being playable at this point? That's it. It's over. Just let it go.

Or at least hop on Team Metal since he still has somewhat of a chance.
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>>386948015
The leaks killed almost all of them, as none of them wanted to be spoiled of playing the game theirself.
I know this shitposting is killing my interest to stick around here much more though.
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>>386948015
pretty much all of them left when the leaks started
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>>386948123
They literally can't find anything else to occupy their mind for 2 weeks. So the only thing they do is talking about how much the delay sucks until the game gets released on PC. That's right, every single day the same fucking autists complaining about the same fucking thing. It's that bad.
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>>386947763
As your fellow 2Dfags have told me: get good and stop running into shit.
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Have we found out what happens when you get all the blue sphere medals yet?
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>>386947754
hydrocity is basically the same as in sonic 3 with a1 having some new gimmicks and a2 90% unchanged, even music is almost unchanged

lava reef suffers the same problem with a1, while a2 is good but incredibly short, probably the shortest Mania level.
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>>386948015
I dont care anymore, i just want at least the ost or music rips, the game got ruined for pc users, just because some trolls said stupid shit on a stream run by a retard that got way too lucky getting some apparently easy special stages.

When i watched south park i always tried to believe, well, that the shit that happens there is simply impossible to happen in real life, but yesterday i discovered how stupid the planet really is, pc users got trolled out of something that was rightfully ours, now sega will alwys treat pc users as mere afterhoughts, just because some trolls.

This is wrong.

This is so. very. wrong.
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>>386948015
Leaks, and the pc two weeks delay pissing everyone off.
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Has anyone made an OST rip yet? I'll spoil the zone list for myself if that exists.
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>>386948387
We could try to do that, if at least were give the truth, and a promise that the game wont have drm, but no.

A lot of people got overhyped, and just out of nowhere, sega kicks us in the balls and gives us a gift certificate.

You really think people can move forward after such act of dickery that can perjudicate the possibility of modding in the future?

no, we cant.
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>>386948662
>A lot of people got overhyped, and just out of nowhere, sega kicks us in the balls and gives us a gift certificate

Gift certificate?
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>>386948717
sonic 1
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>>386948717
Pre-Order Mania and you get Sonic 1.
No, not the Taxman remake.
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>>386948717
Sonic 1, the sega classics ROM version.

if at least they said we would get to be beta testers for the pc version of the sonic 1 taxman port, then you better believe me this wouldnt be so goddamn painful.
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The only spoilers I'm willing to know are if Mecha Sonic is in the game and if Metal Sonic is playable
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I just realized that every Sonic 3 boss except for Doomsday was terrible.
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>>386948015
I'm here. This shitshow killed all my hype and good will. What's worse is that I can't even refund it as it's a 3rd party key. Never buying anything from a major publisher again in my life.
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>>386948871
No and no. Stardust Speedway's boss is Metal sonic though, and it's pretty badass, with multiple phases and a nod to the Master System games
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>>386948973
Damn, Metal not being payable fucking sucks but thanks anyway
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Will Sonic Mania have a digital release for Switch?
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>>386949042
Where do you think the 'leak' came from?
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>>386948973
Stop spreading misinformation. Cancer Mark didnt unlock any of the extras and probably never will.
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>>386948973
As well a a knuckles chaotix nod
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>>386949123
This, somehow this dude apparently is physically unable to understand fucking blue spheres.

He wouldnt be able to finish one stage even if his life depended on it.
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>>386948289
We still need to see what the medallions do. I mean don't get me wrong I'm hoping for metal too but there's a good chance we're getting neither lol
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>mfw Aaron Webber looked like he had recently been crying last stream
>mfw he probably got in trouble for mania getting leaked
>mfw he poured his heart and soul into this game

AHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAAAA

I hope this shit fucking fails
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>>386948015
Your insular little hype bubble popped. I still think it'll be good but you fuckers made me feel bad for being a Sonic Fan. Hype went straight to your head.
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>>386949575
Well, as long as that mark idiot is at the helm, it wont happen, has someone here from NYC tried to go join him?
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>>386949667
Why the hell does Sonic's eyes work like that. Or more importantly how.
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>>386949667
You sound like someone who needs to go to hell right now. Aaron Wbber is a good man.
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>>386944205
Mushroom Hill and Angel Island are objectively good zones, even if they're easy.
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>>386949667
>know your online shop has piss poor infrastructure
>get someone from the worst shithole on the internet to leak Mania and yell NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER (coincidence that it just so happened to be a board owner of said shithole too?)
>get SEGA to shoot themselves in the foot even further afterwards
Nintendo's sabotage was successful.
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>>386947754
Same here. Playing it on my PS4.

>>386948139
represent
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>>386949667

>Muh PC release got delayed a week

Cry some more. Fans of the original 2D games have probably waited since the Advance titles to play something like this again sadly. What is another week or so to you?
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>>386949667
It's honestly what he deserves for putting Arin and his grump cronies in the manual.
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Will there be a Day 1 patch the add the missing stage transitions?
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>>386949882
I preordered originally on PC. I have a ps4 but with uni starting in a week or so it means I'm gonna have to shove my ps4 into my baggage when I get onto the plane back. It's gonna be a pain but worth for this game.
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>>386949827
Yes. Nintendo totally bribed a store to break street date (which happens quite often) to sabotage a game coming out on their console (and if it were hacked, pretty much guarantee nobody touching it because their games can get leaked).
What a master plan.
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>>386949987
>friends with people who hate Sonic games and sonic in general
Reaaaaalllly makes you think. I hope this twink nerd manlet gets fired.
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>>386949945
The difference between paying for it and not.

>>386950036
Nintendo not having anything in place to keep digital codes from activating early is absolutely ridiculous.
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>>386950014
Doubt it. Mania will always have those missing level transitions that will annoy the fuck out of me and remind me the game was a bit rushed.

>>386949987
Normally I'd feel bad for Webber, but now that you reminded me of this, yeah I suppose this is karma coming back to bite him in the ass.
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>>386948015
Did someone wake up HydroShadow?
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>>386949945
it's the last two weeks of holidays before having to go back to work
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>>386948139

IM STILL HERE
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>>386949667
How could it be HIS fault?

>>386949702
You know how shitty life can be?
You know what it is to go to an extenuantly repetitive daily job and know that you wont even enjoy you paycheck cuz you have to pay some debts to your family you even werent aware of?
You know how irritating is to having to suck the dick of a bunch of people who wants you to basically perform miracles in your job daily?
You know how empty is to have so little rest time at the end of the day that you simply cant do anything else than navigate the net for a few hours?
You know how hard can it be to even save 20 fucking dollars for preorder the game like that?
You know how impossible is to EVEN start saving for a console in a situation like that?

This isnt just about hype, this is about awaiting something cool, somehing different, something fun, something that was robbed from me!

You sir, im sure you have an excellent life, got money enough to swim on it and a satisfying job, but the rest of us need things like sonic mania, and now we are fucked because of trolling, you have no right to chastise us who were hyped.
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>>386950310
Hi Aaron
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>>386950093
I dunno, maybe they weren't expecting somebody to get the download code to a primarily digital game.
Then, Nintendo does have these sorts of screwups sometimes, like that one time where people who pre-loaded Paper Mario Color Splash were able to play the game early.
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>People upset that Oil Ocean and Metallic Madness got in
>Even though their level designed were fixed and now they look like legitimately fun levels
Even the fucking Seadras got nerfed in Mania so they can't hit you if you try to kill them too fast.
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>>386950427
Nice try spongefag, im sure aarons job is one of the best, even when being forced to bring bad news.
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>>386950310
I relate and empathize, I really do. Got a PS4 as a gift a few years back luckily, so I just yanked my Steam pre-order and pre-ordered it there. This shit is fucked though.
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>>386949945
>Fans of the original 2D games have probably waited since the Advance titles to play something like this again sadly.

I don't doubt it considering how autistic you have to be to think 2D Sonic is good.
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I doubt even 10% of people getting Sonic Mania ever beat Sonic 3 and Knuckles.
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>>386948015
>Shaqposter
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>>386943878
>No Unlockable Amy/Rosy
Who cares about any characters that aren't the three we got, Sonic's "friends" suck.
>No Unlockable Metal Sonic
That might have been cool
>No Angel Island
>No Mushroom Hill
>No Mystic Cave
>No Spring Yard
Can live without them, the current stages look nice.
>PC version delayed for DRM
Lel, just play on a console and pirate on PC when its cracked.
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>>386950704
>Sonic's "friends" suck
Oh fuck off, this isn't 2008 and this isn't Sonic Team. Taxman and co. would do any extra characters perfect justice.
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>>386943469
I told myself I'd avoid the Mania leaks but went and watched a bunch of stuff anyways. Not even regretting it, if anything I'm more hyped now. This game looks fucking awesome.
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Every Stage BUT Marble Garden in 3&K is good at its worse, Marble Garden just has bad enemies and bad traps that are directly punishing to speed and make it a fairly annoying stage, also Sonic's boss is annoying.

This is objective fact, you may dislike it but it's unarguably true.
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>>386950613
What Sonic fan has actually beat Sonic 3 & Knuckles?
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>>386950704
>Sonic's "friends" suck.
Polly want a cracker?
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>>386950704
>t. A fringe-tier Sonic fan who hates any Sonic game past 1995
You aren't a true sonic fan and never were. Please fuck off.
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>sonic tards genuinely thought this steaming pile of shit was going to be better than Mario Odyssey
Top fucking kek
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>>386950704

Squawk squawk, little birdy.
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>>386944501
Sonic's ending pose is identical to Classic Sonic's when he first appears in the initial Forces trailer. That right there is pretty much the dead giveaway.
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>>386950926
But it still is?
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>>386950973
Shut the fuck up lol
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>>386950864
>>386950856
>>386950798
>>386950934
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Is there still a video up of the Chemical Plant Act 2 boss?
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Those who hate Sonic's friends actually hate Sonic, and were never true fans in the first place.
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>>386950926
Mario Odyssey looks like it completely misses the mark on why people wanted 64 and Sunshine style gameplay back
>talk to a random Jew Yorker and get a Power Moon
Wow, what effort. They're just putting collectables in random places because collectables are what the older 3D games did, right?
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>>386950926
I hope nobody really thinks this romhack is better than a full-budget original 3D game by the kings of platformers
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I'm wondering how crazy would go /v/ if the Torrent gets posted on 15th August from a reviewer
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I would rather have a game where you can play as everyone but Sonic. It would break up the monotony and Sonic would be an interesting franchise again.
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>>386945727
To jump off from this shitpost though, I do wonder how it's going to do in reviews. It looks like a fair step up above S3&K in terms of challenge.
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>>386951202

Why does this franchise always have to go in extreme directions for you guys?
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>>386951182
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>>386949667
>>mfw he probably got in trouble for mania getting leaked
wrong
the guy just got it from some faggot who has them in stock and gave it early. nobody on the team's fault.
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>>386950798
Honestly, them doing more charecters with more moves would be genuinley interesting. Would much rather have Metal Sonic than Amy though.

>>386951105
They just keep adding them though, and after a while it became a sea of literally whos filling Sonic games. You can't say Silver or that rock monster Hedgehog are interesting in any way.
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>>386951295
Because I'm fucking tired of fucking Sonic. I'm exhausted, I would rather play as any character but him. For fucks sakes there are 30+ characters that aren't being used.
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>>386951182
That'd be fair. Very unlikely though.
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>>386951182
Steam has time locks, the game cannot be pirated until release day.

Also i doubt anyone would be able to torrent the game and make it playable.
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>>386951370
Actually I think Silver could be interesting if his gameplay was done right.
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>>386951295
it's just shitposting anon. most fans no matter what group they belong to want sonic and his friends playable ala s3&k, advance, and/or rush. basically sonic style gameplay for everyone
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Since Team Hooligan appear in Mania as illusions do you think they have a chance to appear legitly in the future?
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>>386951495
Review keys can be played before release. That's how the Deus Ex demo leaked.
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>>386949827
Game footage getting leaked in pretty much the worst way imaginable like that really must have been a punch in the gut. I feel bad for the guy for that. Must've been mortifying.
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>>386951495
>he doesn't know
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>>386951571
Still, nobody will.

We are fucked.
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>>386951497
How would you make him work in a Sonic game?
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>>386947219
Who the fuck is Cybershell, is he one of those Reaction videos that plague every single fucking Sonic related Youtube video?

Thank god for Youtube Blocker :^)
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>>386950652
I like this one
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>>386951650
Yeah, I'm not holding out for it, just saying.
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>>386945503
which country
this is an international american board, you fag
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>>386951497
None of his powers would translate well into a 2D Sonic game.

Honestly, most of you faggots saying Sonic's friends are good probably have horrible ideas of how to implement them.
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So it looks as if a person leaking the entire game on his stream thanks to his early download code working and the game being delayed for two weeks for PC users were two almost fatal blows to the heart of Sonic Mania, and just under a week until it was suppose to come out. Aaron must be fucking beside himself right now along with Taxman/Stealth.
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>>386950509
>Oil Ocean

Its grim as fuck
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>>386950613
couldn't get past the barrel
couldn't get past sonics final boss in S&K
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>>386951370
>that rock monster Hedgehog
?
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>>386949987
Wait what?
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>>386951783
Classic Amy is the one most people have been suggesting and there have already been two very good ideas for her: either her Advance moveset or give her the insta-shield except with her hammer. Look at how simple that is. I don't know why people are against that. She wouldn't even talk.
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>>386950613
I've super cleared it once with Sonic, once with Knuckles, once with Tails and once with Sonic+Tails over the past month and a half.
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>>386951886
>the barrel
Is this the barrel in Carnival Night? Why do people find this hard? You just press up and down to move
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>>386950704
>Who cares about any characters that aren't the three we got, Sonic's "friends" suck.

2Dfags in a nutshell.
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>>386951226
>there are going to be people who get stuck on the mean bean machine boss
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>>386943878
>I got hyped up despite no official announcements
Your fucking fault. We've known exactly what type of game this is for a year now. It's not shit just because you can't control your expectations
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>>386951985
Probably means Mephiles.
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Chemical stardust oil ocean titanic monarch zone are all the same
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>>386952109
tell 6 year old me that
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>>386952157
But how can you forget about DAN GREEN?!
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>>386951169
I'm sure some do with how desperate they are to validate their shit taste in liking Sonic.
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>>386950613
That number's probably higher for actual fans of the originals though.

It may be the longest of the classics but it's still only about two hours. It's also the easiest.
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>>386944329
The ending is intentionally drawn so you can interpret it as Sonic escaping the wormhole if you don't like Forces.
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>>386952136
Probably me. I fucking suck at Puyo.
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>>386952157
Dark isn't a species, what the fuck?
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>>386952136
I'll be honest I kinda want a stand alone version in Extras with different difficulties, I'm going to chain combo Robotnik into the fucking ground with how easy it looked, it looked so fun though, I can't wait
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Should I play Sonic 3 Complete as Knux?
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>>386951202
It's like this because of the bitching coming from 2Dfags.
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>>386950310
CAUSE I WAS BORN IN THIS PAIN
IT ONLY HURTS IF YOU LET IT
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>>386952492
Sure, go ahead.
Make sure to get all the emeralds!
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>>386943878
Blame 2Dfags.

This game is nothing but a nostalgic cash grab.
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>>386952484
Yeah I do hope there's a bonus feature to get to play more of it, obviously it's not going to be all that hard in the main game since you can't expect everyone who plays Mania to know how it works.
Also was the gameplay style based around the original game or did they update it?
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>>386944932
>le water stages are bad
Nice meme. Now kys.
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>>386952712
Classicfags ruined the series. Green hill and 2d segments have to be in every game now.
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>>386952756
It would most likely be like Mean Bean Machine, so original Puyo Puyo Mega Drive rules.
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>>386948015
I'm here, I never left, I even saw Mark's streams (he fucking sucks), it's just that, well, I stopped Tomfagging since I got the gifted copy except for one day where I went apeshit over some bait. And now that I need to wait 2 more weeks because of some Denuvo bullshit for the PC release I want to kill myself.
Sorry for doing it again, but it's been some time and I actually wanted to see you guys again.
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>>386952756
ancient puyo so no offsets
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i preordered this on steam and now theyre postponing it?

welp, just canceled it. day 1 pirate for me boys.
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>>386952815
>smacks lyps
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>>386952834
Sonic Team ruined the series by not being able to realise what people actually want.
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what do sonic fans think about this game?
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>>386952834
>Classicfags ruined the series
Why do Modernfags always try to put the blame on anyone BUT Sonic Team?
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>>386944329
Just the fact that this might even tie into Forces is pissing me off.

Thankfully, that stone is radically different from the Chaos Emeralds, so that's not so bad, as long as they're not passing it off as the eighth Chaos Emerald.
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Honestly I'm glad the Forces connection is what we got, just a sound effect and a portal. It's vague enough and still allows me to live my autistic fantasy of this game coming out for the Saturn in '96.
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>>386952963
Sonic World is a billion times better
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>>386952915
To be fair what DO the fandom as a whole actually want? It's too divided so they keep trying to merge things and it never works
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Do we know other character specific changes other than knuckles mirage saloon act 1?
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>>386952963
It's neat. It's cool how well it plays when it's basically a Doom mod, or Duke 3D mod. I don't remember if it used idTech 1 or Build.
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>>386952993
>You have to be a modernfag to dislike classicfags
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>>386947219
Patreon is a scam. Can't believe people give them a free paycheck for a 'shout out' at the end of the video
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>>386953109
Knuckles Green Hill Act 1 starts in underground
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>>386947219
This guy's videos have no fucking structure at all
You guys just like him because he uses 4chan buzzwords
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Do we have the actual timed release schedule for consoles, yet?
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>>386952963
I was addicted to this for awhile and loved playing in co-op online. Eventually got kind of annoyed at how young the community skews and how many awful RP games people hosted.

Mystic Realm was the shit.
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>>386952993
Because Classicucks threw a decade long tantrum and shit on every 3D game until Sega finally gave into their screeching.
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>>386952071
Could Amy roll into a ball in the Advanced series? Either way, the only thing the Advanced series did right was adding movement options and attacks to characters. The attacks were fairly useless but Sonic having a short mid air dash was nice.
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>>386951886

>meme barrel

It's amazing how many shitty retarded people there are out there, how does one get stuck on this? Even if you don't know what button to press, just press buttons randomly until you figure it out. It's a fucking Sonic game, you're not going to activate the launch codes by pressing random buttons to figure something out. How dumb do you have to be? And there's so many of these idiots that can't game.
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>>386953118
Idtech1, a modified version.

Mostly based on the discontinued doom legacy source port.

Kinda sad for it, before zdoom, it was ome of the best, it even had splitscreen multiplayer, zdoom didnt had that.
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>>386953014
you forgot the pose at the end, which is the hardest one to ignore
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If Sonic's the fastest then how come Tails could constantly keep up.
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>>386953109
I expected a magic/circus themed zone for the top hat heavy, but it getting Mirage Saloon instead was kind of a let down. Still a pretty nice set of zones though, though I don't understand Oil Ocean or Metallic Madness' inclusions.
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Okay I have been out of the loop with everything Sonic related for a long time. This new game coming out, Maniacs? It's made to look like the Genesis era games? Did they purposefully try to make it look like Sonic-CD era anime?
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>>386953358
If Sonic's the fastest then how come he could never keep up with Eggman?
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>>386953358
Sonic slows down to let him -- even when the planet is in jeopardy. He's that good of a friend.
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WHY IS THERE NO FOOTAGE OF THE CHEMICAL PLANT ACT 2 BOSS
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>>386953087
That's exactly the thing, they keep trying to pander to everyone by having Classic in Forces and having Modern Sonic constantly going into 2D because people like Sonic in 2D right? They need to realise it's impossible to make a game that will please the whole fandom at once, they should split the franchise into classic styled games like Mania while Modern Sonic games can be their own thing.
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>>386953358
sonic's sperm increases your speed temporarily

>>386953448
ee above
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>>386953262
No. The whole point of Amy was that you had to time your attacks with a hammer. It was a nice spin on the formula and if you didn't like it, you had three other characters to play as because good Sonic games don't force you to play as other characters. I recommend playing the Sonic 1-3 Amy romhacks though because they take the best of her Advance 1 and 3 movesets and also make them even better and faster.
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>>386953408
Sonic CD aesthetics with 3&K level design was their goal. It was made in the idea of "what if there was a 2D Sonic game made for the Saturn?"
If you somehow haven't been spoiled on anything yet, just leave now. The entire game is out in the wild now.
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>>386953335
Would be cool if someone decided to remake Sonic Robo Blast 2 for GZDoom, but that'll probably never ever happen.
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>>386952492
Knuckles has a lot of unique paths through stages and a completely unique final boss, if you've never beaten 3&K as Knuckles then I'd highly recommend it.

>>386953252
Because every 3D game has been inferior to the Genesis games, and I loved Advanced 1 and 2 when I first played them. Granted, I haven't played Colors or much of Generations but I have never really been wowed by a 3D Sonic game before, and they're still being made.

>>386953312
The barrel is legit bad game design, the player jumping on it makes them think that continuous jumping is the solution to the barrel problem when it isn't.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XeBgeN5uG8&t=0s
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>>386953252
Yes only they were shitting on 3D Sonic games, no one else. Also Sega making dumb decisions is still Sega's fault.
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>>386952915
They saw the foundation of the classic games as an acceptable but temporary means-to-an-end instead of the core foudation for the series going forward (which is extremely frustrating).
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>>386953507
tell me more and post diagrams
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>>386953514
Amy in Sonic 1 sounds pretty fun. Would fit her moveset a bit better then say, Sonic 3.
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>playing sonic 3
>do casino minigame
>get 3 eggmans
>get 3 jackpots immediately after
>fall into pet and game ends
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I'm crying bros. This was supposed to be it. Sonic 4 as we truly imagined it. The best Sonic game ever. I anticipated this game for over a year and it's fucking shit.

Trash zone selection, only 4 new zones, half-assed tie-in story and transitions etc.
This should have been cancelled. Not delayed.
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>>386953612
>>386953623
Reminder that the only good classic games are Sonic 1, 2, CD, and 3. The rest are trash, almost unplayable and devoid of fun. Modern Sonic has more good games by a damn mile.
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>>386953837
You forgot your wojak bud.
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>tfw Sonic Classic Heroes is better than Mania
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>>386953841
Yeah but none of them are as good as the classics you just mentioned. 3D Sonic games are good at best, none of them are great games.
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>>386953837
Wait for Mania 2 with all original levels and NO Iizuka involvement. That will be the true game to finally top 3&K.

Mania 1 at least proves the team can make a good game with good level design. This was just them getting their feet wet.
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Why does everyone hate Sonic Mania now? What changed from last week?
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>>386953612
I played Knuckle's route when I was a kid. That being said, I hardly remember the differences.
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>>386953312
>how does one get stuck on th

Because I was a child you retard
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>>386953841
Knuckles has better stages than CD easily, and not playing 3 and Knuckles as a complete package is a moron thing to do.

Also the best 3D games aren't even that good. Adventure 1 and 2 are full of tedious boring gameplay segments, and the fast stages in them are linear boring running segments. Not to mention the dash attack is the most boring way to attack an enemy in a video game.

>>386953837
I guess we only have to wait a few more days until this shitposting can die.
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>>386953964
>a romhack is better than another romhack
What a surprise. In other news the sky is fucking blue.
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>>386943968
I don't fucking care. The gameplay and level design can be 20/10, but if it has a garbage plot then I can't play it. I already made this mistake with Time Twisted, an already middling Sonic fangame that had a completely horrid plot I still shudder to think about months later.

I won't make the same mistake twice.
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>>386954057
He's a little slower, has a few alternate routes, cannot jump as high as Sonic (but can wall-climb) and he has a few variances in boss fights.
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>>386953837
>I anticipated this game

no you didn't
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>>386954042
Everyone found out the game is shit.
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>>386954027
>and NO Iizuka involvement
not happening until he's dead
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>>386954042
>no amy
>delayed pc release
>only 4 original zones
>some favorite stages were cut out
>shitty stages that nobody except contrarians liked were put in
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>>386954179
>No Amy being a bad thing
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>>386945727
Dead Cell was closest to game to Sonic I've played since Sega. Just wanted to share
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>>386954027
For what we know mania could easily be better then 3&k. Ignore the blatant shitposting. I mean, look at his arguments like trash zone selection.
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>>386954042
sonic cycle.jpg
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>>386954042
It's just /v/ shitposters and asspained lorefags upset that the plot is basically telling how Classic Sonic ended up in what Sonic Forces will be. The shitposters never bring up anything that matters like the level design, music, or gameplay.
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Remember when everyone loved mania
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>>386954235
I already told you to fuck off back to 2008, shitter.
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>>386953356
What pose?
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>>386954235
No Amy IS a bad thing!
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Okay, I'm sorry, I don't mean to sound ignorant of the process here, but how exactly did they need to cut zones or not have them done? Isn't the game in 2D? They were making levels exactly like this 27 years ago, how hard could it be to make 2D levels in 2017.
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reminder that PCfags are absolutely buttblasted About the delay.
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>>386954042
toxic PC community as per usual
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Is Sonic Mania, dare I say it, the blunder of the year?
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>>386954278
Again, what in that picture applies to this game? The issue isn't anything to do with muh friends or gameplay styles.
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>>386954057
He's forced through some different segments in some stages, and he has a different final boss. Overall Knuckles is pretty fun if you like exploring stages, that and his gliding to hurt bosses is neat.
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>>386954161
>physics are perfect
>sound and visual design is top notch
>price is decent for what you get

>ties in with sonic forces
IT'S FUCKING SHIT
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>>386954365
Dude we had Andromeda and Nioh this year.
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>>386954179
Was Amy being playable even possible considering she probably doesn't even have any assets to reuse?
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>>386954042
Nothing, shitposters are doing what they do every time a game is coming out.
And if they continue even after you know the game is probably good.
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>>386954365
I'd say so, if only because it had everything going in its favor. Things like MEA you could see crash and burning from miles away.
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>>386954179
Did someone collect all the medals?
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>>386954449
Every sprite is redrawn, you shitposter.
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>>386954415
Anon explained it here >>386954179
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>>386952963
Best Sonic MMO, I play it with my siblings.
Sugoi 1 & 2 are awesome
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>>386954042
It's just shitposters fueled by the PC delay and some small game oddities

>less brand-new zones than generally expected
>some returning levels that few people at all were hoping for
>some zones don't get transitions
>a light Sonic Forces tie-in at the end

Having seen a bunch of footage though I don't see how someone who was genuinely looking forward to this still couldn't be excited for it. It's probably going to be one of the best Sonic games.
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>>386953964
It doesn't even have any original stages.
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>>386954449
>reusing assets
>when everyone's sprites are completely redone

?

>>386954324
>>386954362
This is a big part of it, it's a combination of butthurt PC players and people who thought they were holding out on information and that the final game would have more stages and more playable characters.

Also the people bitching about stages they don't like getting in are super retarded, considering a lot of the stages are heavily changed with new paths and new mechanics.
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>>386954415
Honestly you can ignore it, people are acting like it literally takes you to the store page for Forces and pre-purchases it for you, if you don't want Forces, don't buy it - support Mania and cuck Iizuka at his own game
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>>386954629
Because original stages suck cock, the only ones you need are in the base game. Eat a fucking dick.
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>>386954275
>no ice cap
>no carnival night
>no mystic cave
>no spring yard
>no death egg

etc.
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>>386951808
They aren't death blows.

Most people didn't watch the leaks.

Most people aren't getting it on PC

Most people who are are OKAY with a delay.
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>>386954324
>Console wars xDDDD
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>>386954681
>what is legal rights
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>>386954685
>Most people who are are OKAY with a delay.
Source: 386954685's ass
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>>386954662
>if you don't want Forces, don't buy it - support Mania and cuck Iizuka at his own game
LITERALLY this. It would be the ultimate and thorough defeat of this whole debacle to simply buy mania and not buy forces. It would be a giant fuck you to the whole idea because it wouldn't even serve the purpose it was made for.
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>>386954275
From what I've seen of the leaks, I would say Mania is probably the 2nd best Sonic game of all time. But it just has some quirks here and there that make it really hard for me to say it's better than 3&K.

That's why I think a Mania 2 will definitely surpass it. Because the team can learn from the first game and then improve where they need to. I just pray SEGA lets them make it and lets them make it without any large interference.
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>>386954573
They never even hinted at Amy, people got themselves hyped up for that based on nothing. The delay sucks but that doesn't make the game itself shit. Zone selection is fine, it's about what you'd expect outside of Oil Ocean.
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toot toot sonic warrior
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>>386954304
>>386954318
>wait 2 weeks for the PC version
>someone mods in Amy like they did for Sonic 1, 2 and 3
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>>386954662
This. Besides, hopefully the pattern continues and Taxman and Stealth are given more freedom for a next project.
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1. 2D Sonic is shit and not fun at all
2. Sonic was only good from 1996-2003
3. Boost games suck dick because you can only play as Sonic, and theres 2.5D levels
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>>386954685
>Most people aren't getting it on PC
>Most people who are are OKAY with a delay.
You lost me here.
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>>386954856
PC version will have Denuvo, which will kill any potential mods for the game.
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Meh, whatever I just won't buy it. Clement will put out a playthrough in a couple weeks anyways, I'll just see it there.
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Name me an album that sounds similar to sonic mania's ost.
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>>386954863
Keep crying, Adventurecuck.
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>>386954923
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>>386954894
I think we should wait for real evidences for Denuvo and not just interpreting a tweet

The PC version just might have some crash problems
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>>386954662
this is what i'm planning to do, i preordered mania

i will never buy forces, fuck Lizuka, i'll rest when he'll be fired
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>>386954839
Reminder to you that Sonic 4 had original stages. Mania only having 4 while being overrun with rehashed shit is baloney to its name.
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>>386948015
>You think the shitposting and leaks killed them all?
For me yes. I'm trying to avoid spoilers, and the shitposting is unbelievable.
I have a couple things to say on this matter.

While the delay sucks, and this is coming from someone who can only get the PC version, I want you to remember what this game is. It's a miracle. Please don't attack it. Give it love.

This is not the fault of the Mania devs or Iizuka. Don't blame them. They didn't want this to happen.
While it may seem wrong to support Sega for the decision, remember that it's ultimately supporting Mania and its devs more than anything.
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>>386954741
>deathblows to the game
>the intro video has been trending on youtube and almost has a million views after being on there for 2 days

Yeah, a few shitposters on /v/ are surely representative of the general publics opinion on the game.
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>>386954395
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>>386954042
>everyone
>literally one or two guys samefagging hard

Don't be fooled, anon.
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>>386954179
You sound like a Smash Bros rosterfag who's upset he didn't get his favorite characters. Cry more retard.

>>386954573
The only valid thing he had was the delayed release. Already knew there wouldn't be many new zones and he conveniently leaves out that the "old" levels have totally original mechanics and areas added to their layout. Do we really need to pull out the picture where they basically tripled the size of Green Hill Zone in one act?
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>>386954969
Good album, but that doesn't sound like sonic mania.
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>>386955013
>>the intro video has been trending on youtube and almost has a million views after being on there for 2 days

How the fuck does that prove that most people who are are okay with the delay?
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>>386955013
Said intro video was published before the shitposting. But okay, you keep pretending no one's complaining about this and we'll see how many haven't refunded in two weeks in SteamSpy.
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>>386955080
>Massive disappointment
>game isn't even released yet

lol
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>>386955004
>Reminder to you that Sonic 4 had original stages.
>Green Hill
>Casino Night
>Labyrinth
>Metropolis
>Death Egg
>original
???????
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However, the missing transition is the real weird thing, plus the HBH placed strangly
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>>386954681
>waaah i didn't get the stages I LIKE
Spring yard and ice cap are overrated by the way.
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>>386955004
>Sonic 4 had original stages
Yes original stages like Not-Green Hill, Not-Labyrinth, Not-Spring Yard etc. Also a rehash is using something again without significant change or improvement and Mania's returning stages are pretty significantly redesigned.
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>>386955101
>Do we really need to pull out the picture where they basically tripled the size of Green Hill Zone in one act?
Who the fuck cares? Everyone has already played through Green Hill almost over ten times now since Generations. You think I care if it's bigger?
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>>386955151
The delay sucks, but it's super far from a deathblow.

>>386955152
>Implying it will see significant refunds because of a two week delay

Nigga point me to a boycott page or something, the vast majority of people who were interested in the game before will still get it despite the delay. Not to mention most sales will probably be from consoles.
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>>386955004
>Reminder to you that Sonic 4 had original stages.
Did you forget that episode 1 was Rehash city?
>Splash Hill = Green Hill
>Lost Labyrinth = Labyrinth
>Casino Street = Casino Night
>Mad Gear = Metropolis
Even Episode 2 had an entire zone that was a rehash in Not-Wing Fortress
of course, this is bait
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>>386954681
Why oil ocean

More garden stuff pls
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>>386955216
I wish biker Heavy got his own stage. Would have been a cool level.
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>>386955006
>I want you to remember what this game is.
A massive disappointment and a reminder no japanese publisher ever deserves my money? Iizuka's shitting all over Taxman's and Stealth's dreams? A constant reminder of how many of you are underaged?
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fuck green hill
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>>386955124
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>>386948139
I'm shaqposter and I never did that. It was an imposter.
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>>386955321
Well nobody cares if you ccare. People bitch about no new levels when the old ones are basically new ones but with a familiar visual for fan service. And people conveniently forget that and just imply that it's all recycled trash (which is a lie).
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>>386955321
If you don't care about it being essentially a different level with a familiar coat of paint then why would you even be following this game in the first place when it was clear that's what it was going to be?
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>>386955324
Fucking Sonic Retro, the core audience for this and the people who would suck Whitehead and Stealth's dicks for days are having a hard time rationalizing it. How do you think people not invested in weapon-grade Classic Sonic autism are reacting to a delay 4 days away from launch?
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>>386955343
>1 garden/grassy level and its green hills

Wish they had more but hey
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>>386955597
The people not invested in weapon-grade Classic Sonic autism aren't so obsessed with getting the game on Day 1 that a delay absolutely ruins everything for them.
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>>386955518
>when the old ones are basically new ones but with a familiar visual for fan service.
Nigga, it's the same shit, but edited so Classicucks like you can make this retarded excuse. I guess the classic zones in Generations were original zones since they weren't exactly like them to the dot?
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>>386955597
>having a hard time rationalizing it
that is putting it lightly. their hearts are fucking broken. I am trying to find the words to cheer up >>386955397 senpai but they simply do not exist.
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>>386955397
The delay is the only massive disappointment. The game itself is fantastic.
Iizuka made this game possible and he's not at fault for the delay. Many of you are sorely misplacing blame on him for a variety of things.
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>>386955719
Are you saying they weren't?
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>>386955343
I would've liked them to tackle some Gamer Gear levels (Advance series would be nice as well, but wouldn't fit with the game's throwback theme and whatnot).
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>>386955080
If the only relevant parts are hopes getting high and then being lowered this isn't really the Sonic Cycle anymore, it's the cycle of people getting hyped for a video game and then shit happens.
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Posting in a Sega thread. You know the guy who runs their twitter runs these threads for a living.
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If there's no Super Knuckles I'm going to make an extremely long post in all caps that heavily exaggerates my disappointment.
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I feel like playing Sonic Adventure 1. Stream it?
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>>386955597
If anything the Retro oldies are going to be the group that is going to get the most upset out of this delay. These are the people that have been starved for the game the most.
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>>386955768
>The game itself is fantastic.
Not until I see 5 extra new zones.
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Mania is just the prologue game. You're in for a real treat this fall.
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you're gay
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>>386955719
> I guess the classic zones in Generations were original zones since they weren't exactly like them to the dot?
It's better than what the 3DS version did and just copy-pasted the layouts, even keeping the checkpoint for Mushroom Hill's mid-boss that no longer exists.
I'm still mad
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>>386955702
They are, however, sick and tired of being treated like shit with delayed simultaneous releases. Especially when they come out as surprise "special announcements" not even 5 days away from launch with a rom everyone has as compensation. You are completely out of touch if you don't think this will impact sales.
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>>386955397
>a massive disappointment
>the game isn't even released yet

lol

>>386955597
It's a bummer, but you're a genuine moron if you're not going to play the game because it got delayed.
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The boss fights are the best things about this game, I wish the insta-shield was still here. It feels wrong to not have it when the advance and rush games had it.
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Give me some music like Sonic CD's.

JP soundtrack only.
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>>386955719
This started with this question >>386954042
If you hate remixed stages then that doesn't answer the question because that means you wouldn't have liked Mania from the start.
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>>386955719
>Nigga, it's the same shit, but edited
Don't speak about something you don't know.
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>>386955809
Its 2017 /v/ the mods are nintendo employees and we are constantly surrounded by shills. The only thing I know is you and I are not shills. You would never try to sell me anything. You would never lie to me, right buddy?
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>>386955983
The boss fights and music are the only good things about this game.
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>>386956017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16M9p6-Sw1s
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>>386955920
It bums me out that this game will sell well even if it sucks.
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>>386955941
I'll play the game alright (though this whole ordeal considerably killed my excitement), but they're not getting my money. Might as well buy that not-Sonic game with the ugly girls.
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>>386956017
American soundtrack was better, fuckboy.

I'd rather listen to Carlos Santana-tier guitar than a bunch of faggot Japanese kids screaming every five seconds. You're probably into that shit though.
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>>386956057
>Same shit, but bigger.
Oh boy!
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So guys... WHAT IF... we took the files from the switch version... and ported it to the PC? HAHA THAT WOULD SHOW SEGA RIGHT?
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>>386956017
Sorry, can't help you. Best I can say is look up the composer of the JP soundtrack and see if they did anything else.
That's what I did with the US soundtrack composer
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>20-30 tops assblasted special individuals cancel their preorders and pirate the game
>On the worst-selling system
you sure showed them, guys
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It's a little nice to know that the Sonics are entirely different universes and classic never becomes his terrible counterpart.
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>>386955890
>All the other original content doesn't count because the aesthetics of the level is familiar
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>>386954138
Exactly. This is why Sonic 3 is the worst. Shitty half story told in a game released later that year. Not to mention it had fewer zones than Sonic 2.
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>>386956227
PC is the main install base for this game.
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>>386956174
That idea... may just be crazy enough... TO GET US ALL KILLED
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>>386956291
>PC being the main install base for a colorful platforming game with animals
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>>386956259
Classic still becomes Modern. The Sonic in Mania is pint-sized Sonic.
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>>386956262
>Sprinkling some extra shit makes an old stage "original".
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>>386955101
Yes, Green Hill.

But Lava Reef gets the shaft and while awesome looking is the shortest zone of the game sans not-doomsday. Half of Chemical Plant, Hydrocity (this one might be more) and Flying battery are fucking carbon copies. Press Garden looks like vomit until act 2, Mirage Saloon act 1 is literally a blank space with enemies thrown at it (yes, it's sky chase, and it sucked balls back in Sonic 2). And we are still missing a level for the Purple Heavy, who had to get stuck in the already underwhelming (due to its lenght) Lava Reef.

I haven't seen metallic Madness nor Oil Ocean but I've heard people saying they pulled a miracle and made those levels bearable so I'll reserve judgement on that until I play it (on the 29).

I'm not going to say the game is shit but it feels like such a big let down because it could have been THE ONE, it's so close to reach that potential and all I'm left with is a promise that "it will happen next time" (if there is a next time, god I hope there is a next time, is the only reason I still kept my pre order)
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>>386956125
I'm unsure why I should care, but alright. If you want to be a raging pissbaby about a minor inconvenience then go for it.

>>386955890
The game really should be 100 hours long with branching story paths.

>>386956167
It's not the same if it's changed up, stop being autistic.
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I'll ask one last timeI just installed the Dreamcast conversion mod for Sonic Adventure DX. If I stream it would anybody want to watch it?
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>>386956153
hey fuck you buddy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vjb2asrjv-o
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>>386955920
>Classic Sonic in this game is from Mania
>Yet he'll play worse
They do realise that everyone's going to compare the two games and Sonic Team's version of Classic will come up short right?
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>>386956167
I guess every mario game is just the same old busted levels, following your logic.
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>>386956078
That's the same thing with every sonic after Sonic3K, Looks like that'll continue to be the case
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>>386955890
You get a 32 bit Saturn style classic Sonic game with 12 enormous zones, amazing new art and animations and 90s music, gimmicks and badniks and bosses that take advantage of new technology, playable main trio, the most beloved staple elements returning to form, all with matched and improved mechanics from the classics and everything handled extraordinarily faithfully, it is a miracle this game gets to exist at all, and you're unhappy with it unless it has even MORE zones?

I question if you will ever be happy with anything.
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>>386956291
maybe on /v/ where everyone's broke and have no consoles
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>>386956414
no
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>>386956227
Considering Sega was one of the few publishers I actually supported, yeah, I did.

>>386956410
Tell you what big boy, why don't you join me in this minor inconvenience? It doesn't matter, right?
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>>386956393
>Sprinkling
>Complete redesigns
>Sprinkling
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>>386956414
Why don't you play a good Sonic game?
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>>386955351
I think Bike Heavy was supposed to go into Mirage Saloon. Maybe we could had a cool theme park zone for Magician Heavy,

I'm so fucking salty about Bike Heavy, also King being only extra boss instead of having a cool normal battle and then going all out as an extra boss with the other heavies.
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>>386955920
I'm ultimately hyped for both but you can't tell me this game will be better than Mania.
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>>386956393
Have you seen what they've done to the throwback stages? Metallic Madness is almost completely different from the original.
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ice cap will be dlc r-right?
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>>386956410
>It's not the same if it's changed up, stop being autistic.
Just because a glazed donut is broken up for you doesn't mean it's not a glazed donut anymore. It may look different, but It tastes exactly the fucking same.
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>>386956513
Because i already beat the classic sonics and now im upto adventure
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>>386956167
>Same shit
You blind?
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>>386945503
This is the single most pathetic thing I have ever read on the entire Internet.
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Have we seen Act 2 of Titanic Monarch yet? How do we know the King Heavy isn't fought there at some point?
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>>386956604
>food analogy
shut the fuck up faggot.
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>>386956431
Are you implying they aren't?
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I love the people who are trying to bring Mania down. Can't you fags accept that Mania is a good game already?

I guess you can't stand with a good Sonic game existing
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>>386956585
unless MJ rose from the dead specifically to talk to sega about the copyright issues then no it wont you fucking moron
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>>386956564
Not him but until you can give me evidence that Oil Ocean was fixed I'm still going to be disappointed in the level roster.
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>>386956663
Only the final boss fight and we never see if King Heavy is part of it like the other Heavies are.
Taking a shot in the dark here, but what if he's Knuckles' final boss?
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>>386946037
Pleb certs
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>>386956653
Aside from your post, you dumb nigger.
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where do I even start with the Sonic series bros?
I'm bored as fuck waiting for mail that should have been here two weeks ago

2? 3 and Knuckles?
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>>386956505
> It doesn't matter, right?

Why would I? I'm still interested in playing the game despite the delay. I mean I'm bummed but I'm not gonna have an autism fit over it.

>>386956604
>FOOD ANALOGIES

Touche mon ami~
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>>386956585
press garden act 2 looks better than ice cap
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>>386956757
I'd be cool with that. Hoping some of his other bosses are different too.
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>>386956453
I'm sorry I want actual original content in my Sonic games and not obvious rehashed shit for shallow nostalgia. How many times has Sega made us play the old stages from the same 4 games now?
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>>386956774
Sonic 2. It's improved compared to 1 and 3 continues its story.
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Honestly I'm not concerned with the number of or even the zones themselves. The level design just looks flat out weird. Especially in Green Hill where the new layout just seems to be totally mismatched to the scale of the zone, like the chunks of the layout are split too small. Level layout is the most important part of a platformer, so I'm going to withhold judgement and purchase until it's out and I've seen it.

Also, having the music be fanmade instead of Sega produced is really damn cheap. What the fuck does Naofumi Hataya even do nowadays? Jeez.
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>>386956562
If the level designs get better and the avatar stages are fun, I think it will be better. I always liked modern sonic's gameplay in generations more than classic.
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>>386956723
Ice Cap wasn't made by MJ though, it's a pseudo remix of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2OWC5Hosv8
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>>386956845
See, your problem is that you're just looking at the level themes and not at the level design itself.
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>>386956774
2 is the easiest game to get into and 1 is the hardest and has level design fairly different from all of the other installments. 1, 2, 3&K , and CD are all worth playing really.
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>>386956453
>You get a 32 bit Saturn style classic Sonic game with 12 enormous zones,
Debatable, when I already played a quarter of them

>amazing new art
Yeah, Green Hill again! Amazing! New!

>and 90s music,
I sure loved hearing Hyper Potions' cancer on the 90's!

>gimmicks and badniks and bosses that take advantage of new technology
Literally Freedom Planet did this shit better years ago and that game is a shithole for another set of reasons.

>playable main trio, the most beloved staple elements returning to form, all with matched and improved mechanics from the classics and everything handled extraordinarily faithfully,
And this is the game's strongest point, and the reason because even despite all the shit it has it's (sadly) still the best game SEGA released in years.

>and you're unhappy with it unless it has even MORE zones?
Yes? I want more content! More of that amazing and NEW art! More and cooler enemies! Why do I have to settle for what was good 20 years ago?
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The crazy rumors were true. The gemstone sends classic Sonic away to some unknown place at the end. Tails and Knuckles just watch and a chained up bad future (wut) Little Planet just vanishes again.

So in reality, Mania was nothing more than a Forces tie-in. Iizuka never truly envisioned it as its own game, but rather allowed it because he could use it as part of his grand 25th celebration duology. Ouch. Well, that explains a lot.

This is why we need Mania 2. Stealth/Tax need a go at a game that is completely theirs.
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>>386954662
Yeah thank god it's just an advertisement for forces instead of an in-app purchase
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>>386956845
>I'm sorry I want actual original content in my Sonic games
>>386956262
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>>386956909
I like boost gameplay, but it's still my least favorite gameplay overall (of the three big gameplay styles anyways).
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>>386956801
I have no reason to believe you're even getting this on PC given the passive aggressive tone and carefree attitude while also stating to be interested, but okay, let's pretend. You do you, I'll simply not pay Sega to fuck me over.
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>>386945503
fucking lol. whatever helps sleep in your mom's basement at night anon
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>>386956736
What about Oil Ocean needs fixing that other slower levels like Lava Reef don't? The level might be the least fun of Sonic 2 but it's not a bad fucking level. It has unique and interesting stage gimmicks and maintains a decent pace. It lacks much in the way of traditional high/low paths but does afford shortcuts and exploration. Its the zone most styled after Sonic CD design from Sonic 2. And not in a bad way. I hate how much asspain over minor shit I encounter on the internet.

Meanwhile every second act of the game is unique by design, only sharing assets with older levels. Metallic Madness is a remix of every final zone in the franchise, rearranged so that by design and level flow it plays like none of them. And Titanic Monarch is another remix of old zone gimmicks (notably Death Egg, Metropolis, and Scrap Brain) with new art assets that manages to be the first end game mechanical zone with sections that flow almost as fluidly as OG Chemical Plant.

The game's level roster is fucking fine.
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That wasn't me, it was an imposter.
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>>386957169
Oil ocean is the only casual filter in mania so it's literally the best stage
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>butthurt pc fags picking holes because the game got delayed
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>>386957196
As the guy who made the original one like over a week ago, thanks for keeping my shitty meme going while I was too lazy
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From the posts I'm seeing here I'm getting concerned that this game's going to be particularly easy for trolls and crazy people to disingenuously belittle. Like, they'll never play it but will be able to take any little thing and act like it ruins the game absolutely. People already now have an axe to grind with this delay bullshit and now the game's legacy is in jeopardy even if it turns out to be one of the best Sonic games ever made (which it appears will be).

And it wouldn't surprise me if some reviewers are going to lowball this one for sucking at the game (it looks trickier than 3&K). And then people are going to predictably be hypocrites and flaunt these scores as proof.
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>>386957169
You Classicucks are so fucking delusional. You're so fucking starved for a 2D game that you'll buy a glorified HD Collection with advertisement for an upcoming 3D title and claim it's a new game.
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>>386957003
>Debatable, when I already played a quarter of them
They're about as similar as the stages from Generations. Maybe even less.
>Yeah, Green Hill again! Amazing! New!
Cherrypicking. And even then it still looks way nicer than the original.
>I sure loved hearing Hyper Potions' cancer on the 90's!
They didn't even do most of the music faggot. Have you even been paying attention.
>Literally Freedom Planet did this shit better years ago and that game is a shithole for another set of reasons.
Wrong.
>Yes? I want more content! More of that amazing and NEW art! More and cooler enemies! Why do I have to settle for what was good 20 years ago?
>Old things are inherently bad
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I just completed Sonic CD for the first time.

The JP ost was incredible.

Tidal tempest present and quartz quadrant futur were especially good.
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>>386957010
It won't happen until the old sonic team is gone.
They have no clue since Naka left.
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>>386952136
yo wheres that 4k quality image of this?
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>>386957303
>I'm getting concerned that this game's going to be particularly easy for trolls and crazy people to disingenuously belittle. Like, they'll never play it but will be able to take any little thing and act like it ruins the game absolutely.
Going to be? They're doing it right now.
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>>386957350
>calling people classicucks
>in a Mania thread

Can't you just start a Forces thread?

there isn't a single 3D Sonic game above a 6/10.
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>>386957449

Shit quartz quadrant past is awesome too.
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>>386957350
Fuck you. Stop pushing a lame ass bipartisan agenda. God damn you'd think this shit was international politics by how heated people get over it.

I'm looking forward to Forces because Generations was fun for what it was worth and it looks like we're getting more or less something on par with it. Mania looks like the most fun a Sonic game has been in upwards of 20 years so I'm excited for it too.

I happen to still enjoy video games. I think this is our core difference.
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The people upset that people know this game is trash are ones who think the nazi rally going on today isn't the fault of SJWs and liberals.
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>>386957582
It actually looks like Colors, sadly enough.
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>>386957303
>even if it turns out to be one of the best Sonic games ever made (which it appears will be)
For $20 you get less new content than Sonic 1, which came out more than twenty years ago.
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>>386957169
Oil Ocean is hot garbage. It's like least speed heavy level in the entire game, and has the second worst enemy placement in the entire game. Not to mention that it's music is weak for Sonic standards.
It's like a Sonic 1 level, except worse.
I love Sonic 2, but everything after Oil Ocean is when the game takes a major drop in quality.
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Reminder that you guys should actually be happy it's conencted to Forces because it puts Classic Sonic in a separate dimension from Modern Sonic now, giving Taxman and Stealth free reign to make 2D Classic games now without interfering with the Modern canon.

Iizuka is actually a hero. He's going to give us the separate Classic series we always wanted.
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>>386957303
We've know this for a while
The likes are Jim sterling and game grumps will call it shit because trolling sonic fans is more important than reviewing a game normally
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>>386957656
No you don't, unless you ignore all the new content outside the 100% original zones.
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>>386957720
>giving Taxman and Stealth free reign to make 2D Classic games now without interfering with the Modern canon.
>Implying they'll get another game
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>>386957656
Good thing PC fans also get a free copy of Sonic 1 then. What a deal.
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>>386957745
Changing level layouts a little bit and throwing in a new gimmick here and there doesn't change the fact that 8 out of 12 stages are from 20 year old games.
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>>386957757
Mania will sell enough for a sequel. Screencap this.
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>>386957757
>they won't because autists set themselves up for disappointment and critics are so bad at video games that they think Crash is Dark Souls
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>>386957826
>a little bit
You know full well it's more than "a little bit".
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>>386957826
>Changing level layouts
And bosses
And music
And backgrounds in several cases
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Are you disappointed with what Mania turned out to be?
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>>386957896
It still doesn't change the fact that they have to use old level themes in a horrible attempt at cashing in on nostalgia
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>>386948434
lava reef 2 is fucking pathetically short and is embarrassing to compare to the s&k counterpart
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>>386957845
Torrent will be here on August 15th
Forces will sell better than Mania
Infinite was created by Eggman (Gem power + Residues of Time Eater aka Mephiles)

screencap this
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>>386957903
>Some edits and remixes.
Original Zone! Dot NOT steal!
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>>386957930
Of course not, it's about what I expected. Wish they didn't just give up on stage transitions after a point though.
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>>386957930
A tiny, tiny bit. But that's because I'm an autist and my least favorite Sonic stage is Oil Ocean and we didn't get Mystic Cave over it. I also would have liked Launce Base or Quartz Quadrant but it's fine
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>>386948871
You fight little Silver Sonics in Metal's boss battle with the corresponding 8bit sounds
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>>386957686
>Not to mention that it's music is weak for Sonic standards.

If you can imagine a bad opinion, someone out their subscribes to it
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>>386957757
It's not like he's gonna get fired buddy. He's been with sega for a couple years now. He's not going anywhere and he's inevitably gonna make new games.
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>>386957930
I'm disappointed there were 4 and not 5 zones, that Iizuka propped it up as a Forces prequel and the questionable double dip choices, but whatever. I can't bring myself to care anymore.
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>>386958014
Eggman went to the timeline where Sonic couldn't rescue Tails and turned him into Infinite.
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>>386957720
>because it puts Classic Sonic in a separate dimension from Modern Sonic now

What difference does that make? The games still have a connected narrative.

I wanted the games to be separate canons and so do a lot of other people who got tired of sonic team's shitty ideas
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>>386957757
>have a full talented team capable of making good 2D Sonic games
>don't use them
Not even Sega is that retarded, especially if future sequels can make them money. They'll let them make more for sure.
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>>386958215
>Mania sonic is taken out of his timeline and Tails goes nuclear thinking Sonic abandoned him
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>>386958215

Not a chance, that would be too cool.
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