>members of a criminal organisation that beat up people for

>>386939907
Yakuza are not like your stereotypical mafia.

>>386939907
>He thinks the Yakuza are common thugs that pick on people like bullies
Fun fact they are the complete opposite they are businessmen first and foremost.

>>386940045
>Yakuza are not like your stereotypical mafia.
Yes they are.

>>386940110
The kind of businessmen behind most white collar crime in Japan.

>>386940140
They really aren't anon. They're the Godfather kind of mafia in that they do help people who have nowhere else to turn to, for a price though.
Or there's this guy that actually existed IRL that ran an orphanage like Kiryu does ingame, it was a tax haven but he ran it like a legit thing and cared about the kids.

>beat up people deserve it
>help people who deserve it
makes sense

The Yakuza provided more help to the people in need during the Fukushima tsunami than the government of Japan did.

>>386940184
It's mainly due in relation to the Japanese honor system. If you don't honor your part of the contract, you become less than shit. And if you are the target, you're nothing more than a line in the contract. Pure, cold business, and that's why yakuza still are are strong.

>>386940210
>They're the Godfather kind of mafia in that they do help people who have nowhere else to turn to, for a price though.
You are confusing fiction with reality, anon.

>>386940397
Replace the second are by as.

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While they are different from a normal mafia, I think they are romanticizing it alot aswell.

its a videogame

>>386940210
> cared aboot the kids
more like grooming them to be part of the "family"

>>386939907
>have a serious main story arc
>the side missions are the best part of the game

>delinquents, yakuza and other criminals
>people
LOL

>>386940332
Clever, look at the good-will that's fostered.

>>386940459
While they are romanticizing it to a degree, the series did take from notable real life occurrences with the Yakuza.
They aren't really gonna get in the nitty gritty though of when someone fucks with them the wrong way and hooks a car battery to your nipples to squeeze you for the money you owe them though.

>>386940510
>more like grooming them to be part of the "family"
Yakuza is not Cosa Nostra anon, they aren't a secret organization or a "family". They have fuckton of branches, many of them operating legit in broad daylight and literally being in phone books.

>>386940332
I think the government of Japan was busy running damage control on the power plant. The priority list probably had get food and shit to people, a bit below make sure they don't die horrible deaths from a compromised nuclear reactor. Plus the U.S. Navy kind of had the disaster supplies angle covered.

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>mfw I realized I picked the wrong box from miracle and had to replay the game to be able to farm Mr.Shakedown reliably

I really wanted to like this game but the melodrama was incredibly strong, a few funny moments and side quests motivated me to continue but in the end it was the shit combat that made me call it a day. I have no doubt looking at the unlock wheel that the combat gets better but I was nearly 18 hours in and getting poked to death by 3 guys at once unless I ran away to the nearest bicycle in rush mode, switched to "I'm slow as fuck and still don't have super armour for a shit jab" mode and wailed on the group with said bike.

After 30 minutes of that dude holding a gun in his friends face while embarrassing himself I decided to call it a day.

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Out of the games in the series, I only played Yakuza 4, but I enjoyed it.

I thought it was kinda funny how all 4 protags were portrayed. The corrupt cop who cheats at gambling and takes bribes? He's just trying to help some poor chinese immigrants with their restaurant. That escaped convict who killed a whole bunch of people? Nah, he's really a softie and didn't kill anyone anyway

I liked the shtick it had going on.

On a related note: anyone seen that VICE documentary about the Yakuza? The one where they had that housewife shit in a bathtub? I thought about it, and that whole doc was basically them getting paid to advertise their services. Pretty scummy people, but their minds are definitely on the money.

>>386941192
Why did they make her do that?.
I always wanted to know more about yakuza are there any good documentary or something?.

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So I never played a Yakuza game before and was thinking about getting in to the series
Should I get Kiwami this month or start with 0?

>>386941535
Get Zero first, it's a prequel to all the other games so it's a great starting point.

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>>386941535
You should start with the original yakuza and play in release order. Starting at 0 is retarded because its all downhill from there. Kiwami is terrible.

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Haruka still has a chance to take up the mantle and become the dragon that looks after it all, right Sega? You wouldn't just have her thrown aside after she gave birth to the plot device, would you Nagoshi?

>>386941301
It was a stunt designed to send a message: If you have the money, we have women who will do A N Y T H I N G you want.

It's been a while since I saw it, but I'm I'm pretty sure this is the one:
https://video.vice.com/en_us/video/the-japanese-love-industry/563a6b1b168d315d6407932a

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>>386941535
Don't listen to that retard, start with the first game and play them as they came out.

>>386940210
Nice job beliving the romanticized version of the Yakuza.

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>>386939907
>Japanese L.A. Noire
>"girrty I sentence yurr to riffe imprismont!"
>"b-but I didn't do anything"
>"lol idaf"

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>>386941192
Rubber bullets is the dumbest shit and takes away all the emotional impact of the scene in the arena.

>>386940332
[citation needed]

If you think Yakuza are honorable you're just falling for their good PR.

>>386941586
Ok anon, thanks

>>386941702
>>386941807
I would start with the first two ps2 games if I could find copies that are not 60 euros

>>386941535
You'll get REEE'd at but either are good starting points. If I were you I'd just wait for Kiwami; reason being that 0 is still pretty pricey, but Kiwami launches at $30 so you won't regret it as much if you end up deciding you're not into it.

>>386941937
This. Dumb fucks forgetting they run human trafficking in large amounts

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>>386941938
They emulate perfectly anon.

>>386941807
>starting with a 15 year old game

Lol, the graphics are shit

>>386940510
>>386941839
>>386940140
yall niggers need to go watch a documentary

they are very much a different kind of mafia, and have legal company in japan, own property, and have some sort of legitimacy

>>386941535
>>386941535
Zero has the best gameplay and side content so playing it first might make other games feel worse. On the other hand if you start with the first one, Zero's plot doesn't get to surprise you in any way.

Pick your poison.

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>>386942051
>muh grafix

>>386939907
They're no different than Samurai ages ago. Brutal and ruthless but loyal to their organization. Moral or not, my master is always right as they say. Only this time they went underground.

I'm not touching Zero untilI'm finished The Witcher 3 and Zero Horizon Dawn. I've learned how to respect my backlog when it comes to these sandbox games. If I try to .focus on multiple ones, nothing gets completed

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Yeah the game is really romanticising a guy who beats people up on the street randomly.

>But he was framed!

>>386942038
That is fucking bullshit and you know it, there's still ghosting in Yakuza 1

>>386940140
No they aren't.

Yakuza are all about maintaining order on their turf and try to avoid attracting attention when possible. Part of the reason they practically run Japan is that they're different from your average thugs.
>>386940459
I'd say it villifies them more than it romanticises them, considering that they always show the downsides of being a yakuza and the negative affect they have on the lives of civvies. The fact that they're all ripped and all know martial arts is the only romantic thing there.

>>386942670
To be honest it's always self-defense or to help someone in danger.

>>386941793
Fascinating stuff, anon. Thanks for posting the link.

>>386940735
>pick the encounter finder
>mr shakedown is always sleeping

>>386943000
You can take his money until he wakes up or just sneak it all out until he's dry.

>>386942749
>there's still ghosting in Yakuza 1
DX11 Renderer, Enable Hacks, Enable "Alpha", Set Skipdraw 1
Ghosting fixed.
Retard.

>yakuza 0 has a theme that murder is hard and bad.
>kiryu casually murders like 30 people during the car escape sequence

>>386943202
I just interpreted that as the game saying that there's a difference between killing in self-defence and murdering with intent.

>>386943079
They steal like 1000 yen every 3 seconds.

>>386943152
Alright, that's great, now I just need to solve the fps problem.

>>386943202
R U B B E R B U L L E T S

>>386943402
You start slow but the rate speeds up the longer you do it. You can clean him out in just a minute or two.

>brave and honourable people
>oh look a man in garish clothing, let's beat him half to death and steal all his money

>>386943465
the helicopters and cars exploded, the bikers fell of their bikes

>>386943720
Rubber explosions.
Rubber highways.

>>386943849
And they weren't even people, they were rubber people.

>>386940110
yeah, businessmen that will murder and torture and deal in slaves.

>>386941839
Anon, I don't believe the GAME VERSION, I'm simply aware that they aren't bottom barrel scum like your typical ruskie or italian mob.
They're still doing good things, if even only for PR stunts or being isolated cases of legitimately good guys being Yakuza simply because they had no other option in life.
It's a public organization and you can literally go and say you want to join and that's it.
Not my fault you can't comprehend cultural differences.

>>386943414
>now I just need to solve the fps problem.
Buy a better CPU and GPU. Especially the former but you need a decent GPU as well, Intel HD isn't enough.

>>386944118
If anything Kiryu was doing the world a favor.

>>386943720
Kiryu is just autistic. He just imagined all of that stuff when Oda gave him the gun. He was really just rocking around in the back seat making pew pew noises. It's like how Heat is also just a figment of his imagination.

Say is Yakuza Kiwami worth starting the series with? Or should I emulate the first games on PS2?

>>386945598
Start at the beginning on PS2 faggot, you can emulate easy if you don't have a toaster.
https://buildbot.orphis.net/pcsx2/
The relevant settings:
>>386943152

>>386945674
Cheers anon

>>386945707
Also, use a guide if you want 100% completion.
It's flat out impossible to get 100% without using a guide, including story-based sidequests and secret boss.
There's a lot of story-based sidequests that have very narrow time windows in specific locations and the secret boss requires 100% completion to unlock him.

>>386939907
>oooh, look how moral i am, stopping to help ordinary people on the street every 5 minutes and give them important live lessons and moral platitudes

The helping people bit was less altruism and more "get the fuck out this is our turf".

The sidequest is all Kiryu being a goddamn saint though.

>>386941885
No, since the guy believed in what he did. He really did suffer, even if it was all a sham in the end.

>>386945765
Will do anon, most be a great reward for 100% completion, thanks for the advice.

>>386945881
Also I believe it's only 100% sidequest completion in Y1 to unlock him, since some of the minigames are cancer.
Unfortunately some minigames are mandatory for some of the sidequests so I guess it evens out.

UFO Catcher is the most cancerous minigame ever made.

HEY YOU

>>386945940
What is UFO catcher like? I don't mind mini games but some piss me off like rhytm ones.

>>386946097
Claw. As in, a claw machine, you know those where you operate a crane trying to pick out a specific toy.

>>386946161
expect unlike real claw machines these arent rigged

>>386940045
Petty thugs help others all the time. Firefighter here. One time after a fire there was this lady who was going to donate clothes to a bunch of orphans, and all of them were burned to a crips. Some hood rat who was obviously a drug dealer was listening in and gave her several thousand out of his pocket so she could get more clothes.

>>386942053
>have legal company in japan, own property, and have some sort of legitimacy
>other mafia organizations don't do literally all of this
Fucking weebs

>>386946231
>these arent rigged
UFO Catchers are still rigged but in a different way.
Instead of having a hidden counter that explicitly weakens the crane's holding and only letting one in an X number win, UFO Catchers rig it by having the crane have only 2 very thing claws which makes it very fucking hard to pick shit up.

Also Yakuza 1's and 2's UFO Catcher is double cancerous because it has awful PS2 pseudo-physics that are gravity defying so it's just horrible.
I literally wasted hours to get the necessary toys to progress that one fucking sidequest.
Not a single other minigame was this terrible.

>>386939907
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-yakuza-idUSTRE72O6TF20110325

>Yakuza are regarded as semi-legitimate organizations. For example, immediately after the Kobe earthquake, the Yamaguchi-gumi, whose headquarters are in Kobe, mobilized itself to provide disaster relief services (including the use of a helicopter), and this was widely reported by the media as a contrast to the much slower response by the Japanese government.[15][16] The yakuza repeated their aid after the 2011 Tōhoku earthquake and tsunami, with groups opening their offices to refugees and sending dozens of trucks with supplies to affected areas.[17] For this reason, many yakuza regard their income and hustle (shinogi) as a collection of a feudal tax.

I can't believe they actually managed to turn Majima into a really complex character with 0. It's sort of impressive.

>>386946467
>I literally wasted hours to get the necessary toys to progress that one fucking sidequest.
Nigger what. The UFO catcher minigames in 1 and 2 are piss easy.

>>386943079
The first time I found him sleeping I robbed him blind, but now every single time I find him sleeping he has nothing to take.

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>>386945940
>UFO Catcher is the most cancerous minigame ever made.
UFO Catcher is easy when it comes to completion, it just takes time and is throwing yen into a hole until you get what you want, and the up until Dead Souls the only annoying part is constantly having to go through loading screens to find the machine with the exclusive dolls that only appear in that machine in the hardest to get area. It's one of the easiest games when it comes to 100% completion up until Dead Souls for me so far.

Baseball, golf in 3 onward, pool in 3 onward (Though it gets easier 4 onward), and slots are the worst games in the series. Baseball and slots especially.
>Hey man, why don't you just get a perfect game for Haruka? Now do it again in Dead Souls but against Esper Itou who has gravity defying balls and the only way to do it is to watch when Kiryu tenses up for less than half a second and react to it.
>Can't even play golf in 4 and Dead Souls until you at least unlock Kiryu and the extra clubs and Titanium Ball due to how terrible every single other character is at getting birdies since they only hit at half the strength Kiryu does.
>Missing a single shot in pool against Hard and Expert AI is basically resigning yourself to a loss though it got much easier in 4 and then Esper Itou brought the middle finger right back.
>Slots are complete luck and now you not only need a ludicrous amount of tokens to actually count for completion but cheat items only last something like 100 spins.
I thought I was going to die of anger in Dead Souls when slots took around 10 hours to meet the completion requirement which is a simple 777 profit compared to Pachinko's 7777 which was way easier.

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who here /business/?

I finished Y1 few years ago and wanna start Y2 soon. Can someone tell me about Majima, I can't remember if he was Kiryu's friend or enemy.

>>386946481
>For this reason, many yakuza regard their income and hustle (shinogi) as a collection of a feudal tax.
Just like a fucking prison gift. Give aid out so that you can justify the shakedown later

>>386946853
You may have to fight him again to reset his intake.

>>386947868
Majima just wants to have fun

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>There will never be a Sun-Ken Rock game
It even has better story and characters than Yakuza

>>386947868
I can do better.
Just watch all these:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLT_aibi2uVgyulqGGhYCzE8Q0XZ5CyGWB

All the PS2 cutscenes but undubbed.

>>386946467
Just like real claw machines then? Oh joy

>yakuza literally sell off sluts and abuse them
>even in the game
>t-they're they good guys

>>386948695
Nah, there's a very simple way to do it in 1 and 2. Just undershoot everything and if you land the center of the grabber around the center of an item there's a very high chance you get it. The same applies to the later games as well but they have actual physics so it doesn't really work as easily for the big plushies.

In the PS2 games you need to think of the plushies as a box instead of a round object if that makes any sense, once you understnad that it's way easier to grab the things.

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>>386939907
>videogames aren't like real life
woah........that really.......makes me..................... think

All Yakuza games on PC when?

>>386940140
>Japanese guy makes game based on Jap culture and the Yakuza which he'd probably know at least something about
>Random guy probably American or Aussie goes "Nuh uh I know better"

Stop breathing

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>>386942038

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>all these weebs unironically believing that the Yakuza isn't another bunch of criminal scumbags like any other criminal group

>>386949020
Sounds simple enough cheers

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>>386948467
Fantastic artwork and decent story up until that shit ending.
Also the comedy/ecchi moments were so out of place and annoying.
I did like it though, the fight scenes were fucking hype as shit so it would probably make for a fun brawler game.

>>386949735
Actually i like some parts of the ending and when it comes to the fanservice most of it was indeed completely retarded and out of place but some of it was pretty good and it didn't felt forced
What could make a cool game out of it is how every character has it's own weapon and/or fighting style so there would be a lot of variety, but the thing can't get an anime let alone a game

Yakuzas got rich as fuck during the reconstruction because they own the construction companies and have close ties with the right wing parties that supported America on killing the commies and every attempt on bringing true democracy to Japan so in a way, the yakuzas built modern Japan.

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>>386945875
Bitch he's killed 0 people and that makes his rant about the deep effects murdering someone leaves on you retarded.

>>386940045
Yeah they're much fucking worse.
You fucking weebs.
>muh yakuza
>muh honor
>muh grorious nippon

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>>386949314
My settings are augmented.

>>386951103
He was under the impression they all died, they were all murdered, and he saw the looks on their eyes as he shot them. To him up until the major reveal he did kill them. It doesn't take away from the scene in Purgatory at all because up until that point he thought he killed everyone and lived with that burden and the fact that he killed people.

This is like if Kenshin from Rurouni Kenshin went through everything up until Shishio giving all his speeches and then it was revealed all the people he ever murdered were actually A-OK and just actors. Yeah, the people are fine, but for that entire time he thought he killed them all and saw them die and lived with that reality. That doesn't take away from the speeches or the life lessons he learned.

>>386949460
Fucking weebs are so delusional they think a fucking criminal organization are good guys
It's just beyond belief how delusional they are
These are the same kind of people that think the age of consent in Japan is 13

>>386939907
>kiwami ends of the month
>preordered


QUICKER QUICKER

>>386940140
Someone have that YouTube video where it shows Yakuza helping tsunami victims faster than the local govt?

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>>386939907
this only apply to majima and kiryu
Kuze and the rest of the crew clearly dont give a fuck about civilians

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>>386952194
Alright, but from my point of view that scene has lost all the impact. It's retroactively been made worse by what I think is a twist that didn't need to be there.
Just have his aim be shit and not hit anything important but the pain was enough to make everyone pass out, then have the traitor (forgot his name) deliver the killing shots.

>>386952613
He did hit nearly all of them though, it was the RUBBER BULLETS that prevented them from dying. How several of them survived point blank shots is up to the imagination, but still. The scene itself is fine, it provides insight into the mind and thoughts of Saejima to make us understand him as a character and his growth. Yeah, the end result of what happened is just idiotic and diminishes that scene, but it's still a strong scene regardless of what happened.

>>386946332
/thread

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>>386952774
You make a good point. Thank you for explaining your stance on this in a manner that got it across reasonably and didn't devolve into shitposting.

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Post underrated tracks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fb__ro6PAcM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M47v5aVJrI

>>386947758
>It's an upside down pic again
I've seen many people do this. Why?

>>386945598
If you want to experience the first game but with all the improvements that the series brought, get Kiwami. If you want to experience the series in all its PS2 jankiness and you dont want to pay for shit, emulate. I think its still worth emulating them because the series continuously improves itself and the original has the jankiest combat with a horrible dub.

>>386948074
that's literally how the government works

>>386940735
I'm almost certain you can get 2 of those and just item swap.

>>386942776
I like how Kiryu and Majima are shown more as outliers than the norm, they are badasses with hearts of gold but most of the other Yakuza are shown to be bastards willing to do some fucked up shit

>>386943202
If you can't tell the difference between killing a few dozen heavily armed men trying to kill you for protecting a blind girl and killing the very same blind girl so you can get your job back then you need help

>>386940735
i picked wrong and didnt even care cuz i got it with Majima later.

>>386940210
Do you remember the whole 'schoolgirl in concrete' rape / torture / murder case? The main guy who perpetrated the act got off because he had Yakuza ties.

>>386941938
I don't know what that is in real money, but I bought a copy of 2 a couple months back for $4 australian

>>386939907

Some criminal organizations historically will help out once in awhile between doing shady shit. Basically, keeping the status quo benefits them more than anarchy.

>>386949520
They're honestly so easy, that the thing that will get you frustrated with them is how slow it is between turns.

>>386940332
And they forced civillians to sign an affidavit that said how helpful they were so they could get more building permits from the government

Reminds me of certain italian mafias
Some towns preferred to be ran by them rather than the actual government
When the mafias were dissolved and people were asked they mentioned how they preferred the mafias because they made the town safer and brought more income to the town and things had gotten worse and there was more crime since the mafias were gone

>>386940210
>hey do help people who have nowhere else to turn to

They take advantage of people who have got nothing left and get them to do all the shitty jobs because they can't say no.

Stop watching so many movies and anime, the Yakuza are scumbags who will fuck you over just like any other criminal organisation.

>>386954921
This. Colombian narcos build roads and Pablo Escobar is beloved by some Colombians but narcos are thugs and they just want collaboration from the population and like the establishment completely ignore the people, they're easy to gain.

>>386941301
Not sure if it qualifies as good, but Young Yakuza gets an honorable mention for being unintentionally hilarious. The film crew follows a NEET whose mom has arranged for an internship at a childhood friend of hers who happens to be a Yakuza boss. Halfway through the film he skips town and we're left with the boss philosophising and complaining about the goverment putting the screws on the good Yakuza boys who dindu nuffin. Also Japanese thug life is mostly household chores.

>>386955675
>finish sweeping, doing laundry and washing the dishes
>go to the tattoo parlor and get a sleeve to honor my achievements
Straight gantgsta

>>386941793
>d-director-san
>wouldn't it be weird if we made housewife-chan shit in the bathtub in front of the camera, i-it would be very deep and send a message haha

>>386941793
desu shitting in a bathtub isn't that big of a deal. I'd do that for money.

>>386949152
>>386940140
>>386940210


Not the same guy but my wife is Japanese so we end up spending few months in Japan every year and Yakuza are very disliked in Japan and ppl dont realy understand why western ppl like them so much.

The only time they help ppl is to fuck you up later or that you dont disturb there job,

Why you think its still not legal to go swim or Onsen with a Tattoo.

>>386956947
Why wouldn't they understand?

It's not uncommon for someone to be fascinated by organised crime syndicates in general, even if a lot of that fascination comes from overly romantic portrayals.

>>386956947
Pretty much this. I practiced kendo years ago (yeah, I'm a weeaboo) and during a tournament, one sensei got really mad because one of the teams signed as Team Yakuza. For teaching Japanese martial arts you have to spend some time on Japan and yakuzas are very xenophobic so probably that sensei had bad experiences

>tfw finally managed to avoid spoilers for a game long enough to beat it

Yakuza 0 was great and I should stay off /v/ more often.

>>386957728
My brother moved to Japan to join the yakuza after playing 0. I haven't heard from him since. Should I be worried?

>>386958389
>as if you could escape this hell forever

Though yeah, I really enjoyed Yakuza 0.