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Which pokemon game is the best /v/
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Crystal
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>>386918209
Black and White 2
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>>386918209
Emerald. Heart Gold is also pretty good
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I don't know, I was in 1st grade when R/B came out. Played those, but by the time anything more came I wasn't playing RPG's for children anymore. Dad bought me homeworld in 1999 and it was rad as hell.
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Platinum and Black 1
Those who say 2nd gen are assfucks who can't even judge a game objectivelly.
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>>386918209
silver and gold
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Pokemon is one of the most boring RPG's I've ever played.
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OP here
looking to buy one to play one my 3DS. Leave gen3 and below out of this battle
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>>386918209
HeartGold and SoulSilver
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>>386918209
Platinum and Mystery Dungeon explorers of Time/Darkness/Sky.
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>>386918209
2 > 5 > 4 > 1 > 3 >> 6 > 7

Everything before 6 is very good. BW sucked, BW2 are god tier.
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Heart Gold for me, best post game and best side game contest thing. Platinum is a personal favorite for nostalgia reasons, but I won't push that gen 4 rulz shit here.
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Emerald
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>>386918740
Buy? idiot. Hack your 3DS and you can play every pokemon game there is.
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>>386918740
Black 2 and white 2 are your best bet then
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>>386918209
Crystal and Yellow
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>>386918843
Waiting for lasthax for 2ds xl plus nds games are the only type not supported yet so i would still have to buy
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>>386918759
>when the fanart is miles better than the actual thing
Why the fuck are the designs so shit now.
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>>386918971
SS/HG, BW2 and Plat are all good picks.
SS/HG are very expensive, however.
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G/S/C, Fr/Lg, HG/SS, and Yellow

next question
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>>386918759
Sky is my favorite side game, besides ranger: shadow of almia. Both suffer from some seriously trash tutorials. If I have to listen to Bidoof talk to me about the shops one more time I'm gonna do something horrible to that Azurill
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>>386919161
Is gates any good?
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Emerald and Platinum are actually alright.
FRLG is okay, not that exciting though.
HGSS is mediocre gameplay-wise, but it had a lot of love put into it and you can really tell.
BW2 is apparently very good but I can't verify because BW was so awful I didn't buy it.

Don't bother playing any mainline entry not listed here. Basically all first versions are shit, XY is better than the fanbase gives it credit for but still not good enough to be worth playing, ORAS has a few good ideas but is ridiculously lazy and hard to justify over Emerald, and SM is complete garbage.
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I got you senpai

and no, platinum does belong here. It's slow, trash region full of HMs, mount coronett, no variety in environment until post game with the exception of the horrid snow/swamp routes, inferior post game to emerald/B2/W2, worse music than all 3 of these
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>>386920427
*does not
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>>386919393
I played gates and thought it was okay at best. Its nothing compared to sky though
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>platinum through b&w2
Truely the best stretch of Pokemon games.
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>>386918748
only right answer, HG and SS are the purest forms of Pokemon, before they started adding shit 3D stuff going into black and white, had following pokemon, Highest tier of 2D pixel art graphics possible for a pokemon game, and 2 regions to do gyms in. Easily the best Pokemon to this day
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>>386920427
fixed it for ya
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>>386921113
no, you fucked it up hard. You could have at least replace HG/SS
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>>386921158
are you high? HG and SS are the best Pokemons to date. No competition.
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>>386921224
maybe if they bothered to fix the shitty level curve in Kanto they'd be but they didn't
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You know it to be true
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>>386921285
but even with that, i can't think of any reason to choose another game over this one
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>>386921367
emerald and B2/W2 don't have a flaw that's nearly as big as that, platinum has multiple hence why it's not in the trinity
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>>386918350
Good taste in psychics
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>>386920945
HGSS have a fatal flaw which is the fucked postgame levels, its the one thing keeping them from being perfect
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>>386921405
but black and white/2 are arguably the worst in the entire series for many other reasons
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>>386920427
FRLG and Platinum should be added as honorable mentins, the former is a near flawless game and the later was a huge step up from the god awful DP
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>>386921540
list em, go ahead. What could be so bad in B2/W2 that's worse than the abhorrent level curve in HG/SS kanto
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>>386918209
SS/HG are fucking amazing. Emerald and Platinum are up there too.
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>>386918209
>God Tier:
Emerald, HGSS, Platinum, B2W2, Colosseum, Explorers of Sky

>Great Tier
FRLG, XD, Ranger series, Blue/Red Rescue Team, Yellow, Stadium series, Super Mystery Dungeon

>Good Tier
BW, SM, Conquest, Snap

>Bad Tier
XY, ORAS, Trozei, Dash, Pokepark, Hey You, Channel, Gates to Infinity, Rumble series

>Irrelevant Tier
Rest of the main games
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>>386921608
>the former is a near flawless game
near flawless because FRLG are basic as fuck

>the later was a huge step up from the god awful DP
not a very hard thing to do seing as how D/P are the worst games in the series
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>>386921405
Emerald has the oceanic routes which lack variation, its the biggest problem with the game
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>>386921657
I say FRLG is on the same tier as HGSS, the issues with gen 1 were mostly related to bugs and glitches and FRLG fixed every single one of them while adding all the staple features from gens 2 and 3 and extra content

HGSS added extra content but failed to fix the biggest problem with GSC which was the fucked up postgame
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>>386918748
This. The Pokethalon is still the best side quest. The Spritework is the best. It retains the two regions, adds and expands a few dungeons for Kanto, adds the Safari Zone back to improve distribution, has Voltorb flip to offset the gambling which works okay, gives you the gb sounds which is fairly faithful with a soundtrack that doesn't butcher the original like FRLG, and keeps the Platinum Frontier.

Lastly, I think 500, technically 493, mons is a good stopping point and the competitive around that time was the best it ever has been.
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>>386921352
SMILES GO FOR MILES
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Why is BW2 so godly??
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>>386921660
Eh if you swapped XY with SM I might be inclined to agree
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>>386918209
emerald, I still replay the game to get the battle pyramid gold symbol
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>>386922146
I don't want to defend XY but SM are much worse.
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>>386922070
It has a lot of content
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HGSS
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Just got these and they're pretty good :^)
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I've finished every Pokemon game because I found them comfy, but I just can't bring myself to finish Pokemon Sun. Now I haven't finished X and Omega Ruby, but I do plan to, but I don't know about Sun. I just can't force myself. My friends say it gets good but it's trash.
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>>386922565
Moemon is unironically good, its a simple sprite replacement but that alone makes things feel fresh, specially if you beat the game with different mons
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>>386922730
Maybe you aren't into story oriented pokémon like a lot of people, what are your thoughts on Black and White?
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>>386922545
I couldn't finish B/W 1 reasons why B/W 2 is so unknown to me.Loved Platinum is my favorite
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>>386921674
the ocean could afford to lack variation because the land areas were diverse as fuck, even then you had dive and various caves like shoal cave to break up the monotony
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>>386922801
I loved Black/White, it's in my top 3 Pokemon games
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>>386922938
considering how Hoenn had the most water its a big letdown, the first half of the game is amazing, the second half has some of the best land routes in the series but the moment you leave Lilycove its so underwelming, and its not like they didn't had enough water types to fill the routes with
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>>386923076
>and its not like they didn't had enough water types to fill the routes with

this is probably the worst thing about emerald but it's still not as bad as the level curve in HG/SS or all the trash in Platinum
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>>386922801
Unova actually had good level design with lots of dungeons and other kinds of places to explore and discover, like Chargestone Cave, Relic Castle, Twist Mountain or Abyssal Ruins and more.

Alola is streamlined trash with only a single dungeon in the game and it's hampered by the incessant pestering from Lillie. The level design is so fucking bad.
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>>386923142
amen
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>>386923214
Unova gets fucked because the games rely too much on you giving the fuck about the story (and since this is pokémon it might not be what you are in for), unless you give a shit about the team plasma intellectual debate you will just want to mash through dialogue so you can continue your adventure

Another big problem is the amount of scripted sequences you can't skip, every single city has one and it becomes a massive pain because you are not allowed to proceed until you go to [local landmark] and defeat grunts, either that or its one of your rivals blocking your path, it gets old quick.
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Quick question if you defend gen3 games would you defend gen3 remakes as well ??
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>>386923809
fuck no, OR/AS are trash and no one hates them more than us Emerald fans. Ruby and sapphire aren't very good either but they didn't straight up downgrade like OR/AS did
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>>386923809
Depends, if someone just defends emerald for example then no they probably won't defend the shitty remakes
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>>386923920
I know the battle frontier was taken out but what else was taken out to make it a downgrade?
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>>386922212
XY is just straight up boring, especially after I replayed it last year. SM might have a stupid plot and it might not have the best characters or Pokemon but at least it's not boring
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>>386923809
I haven't played ORAS yet but one of the things I like about gen 3 is how fast it is
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>>386923989
I'm not gonna repeat myself, browse the archive or google search all the shit they fucked up
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>>386918209
Emerald, battle frontier is awesome. ORAS was absolute dog shit
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>>386918559
>>386918892
The remakes are better.
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>>386924753
>>386925016
I'm seeing some bad stuff senpai shield me
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Emerald is the best.
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Have never understood the love for any of the b&w games. 1 and 2 were the most boring games in the series. The only games I was never able to finish
or/as were also pretty fucking boring
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>>386925241
This and hg/ss are why morimoto should direct all Pokemon games. Ohrime shouldn't touch anything
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>>386918209
HeartGold. It has one flaw, in that the opponent/wild levels are too low. Everything else about it is perfection.
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>>386923809
Ruby and Sapphire are trash.
Emerald is a top-3 Pokemon game.
I don't know what it is but I thought RS were bland and mediocre but loved Emerald.
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>>386926567
because R/S lacked content
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Here's a better question: Why are good fangames so rare?

Phenoix Rising, Etheral Gates, and Sage (pic related, /vp/'s serious fangame, as opposed to clover, the shitpost one) are the only actually good ones around and they aren't even done.

Everything else is edgy fanfic tier trash with horrible sprites and shit pacing/balance
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>remove team preview
>ban zoroark
Does this fix the "competitive" scene?
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>>386918209
>Emerald
>Platinum
>Heart Gold / Soul Silver
>Black 2 / White 2

Those are the must-play Pokémon games.
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>>386927991
zoroark probably wouldn't even be that good without team preview

TP did fuck up some pokemon though like ninjask
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Black 2 & White 2
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>>386925392
For B/W I personally found a region filled with completely new pokemon to be exciting.
It did drag out near the 4th gym though, but picked itself back up.
I know it gets bagged on too, but the postgame for B/W is underrated. Exploring previously inaccessible routes with trainers and wild pokemon that are actually curved to a team that beat the E4 was great coming off of HG/SS. Cynthia showing up and being 10 levels higher than anyone else around was cool too.

I believe it's the closest this series has gotten to true exploration in a long time, especially after E4 because the story is over. You get roped in to a few things with Plasma, but from my memory it's greatly exaggerated.
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Black 2 is my favorite.
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Perfect Design
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>>386922565
how is this stuff even sold?
it's a complete ripoff and they still use the logo and everything
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>>386929684
Probably in a low-key way. Ebay or something.
Alternatively it's just a printable cover.
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>>386918209
Colosseum, so good I'm subbed to the composer on Youtube. He doesn't upload a lot, but he's pretty good on the piano.
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>Crystal > Heart Gold/Soul Silver > Fire Red/Leaf Green > Black/White 2 > Black/White > Gold/Silver > X/Y > Ruby/Sapphire
> Platinum > Red/Blue/Yellow > Diamond/Pearl > Sun/Moon > Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire
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>>386930339
>Colosseum
>Really any console pokemon
>Good
What? They're so fucking slow and have an extremely limited pool of pokemon you get to use.
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>>386930450
>crystal
>better then HGSS
>RS
>better then ORAS

explain
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>>386930452
I find the spinoffs more enjoyable than the mainline games personally, and I used to buy every version of every gen. Availability has never been an issue for me and you end up with more Pokemon than you'll ever actually use in Colosseum anyway, you can pick and train up whatever you want since none of them are required at any point. If they're not your favorites I guess that ends up as an issue. The actual speed of the gameplay I can see as a legitimate complaint since everything's a double battle, but if I'm being honest, I don't even remember Pearl being especially slow and I pumped hours into that game when it came out. Just doesn't bother me.
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>>386918209
>best legendaries
>comfiest region
>GLACEON

I'm 23 years old and I still play Pokemon.
Kill me.
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>>386918209
Heart Gold/Soul Silver and Black/White 1&2 with Drayano's romhacks
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For sense of adventure, GSC. For connectivity, ORAS. These two elements are the soul of the series.
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gen 5 was the last good gen. 4 gen was the best gen platinum is the best game in the series.

scared gold and storm silver is what heart gold and soul silver should have been.
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>>386932032
Where in the fuck do I find a Black 2 rom with the right CRC32???
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Sun and Moon.
Here's hoping the Ultra versions are great too!
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I'm tired of Pokemon games offering no challenge whatsoever. I get that it's a casual RPG series, but it just doesn't interest me anymore.
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>>386934179
Mt. Battle and Orre colosseum give plenty though, especially as grinding is such chore in double battles
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>>386934272
I'm talking about the main story in the mainline series. The gameplay has not evolved all that much. It's still mostly simplistic 1v1 battles in which you have the upper hand 98% of the time. I think some mechanics like the way stat boosting and decreasing attacks should be nerfed so that they're either capped at 3 or 4 stages instead of 6, or they increase by a smaller amount. I'm not sure how well that would translate to a competitive setting, but surely stallbreaking wouldn't be as painful
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>>386918209
ruby/sapphire/emerald closely followed by g/s/c
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>>386921614
The shit region, shit starters, shit Pokemmon in general, shit music, shit art direction, excessive focus on plot, shit gyms, shitty tweened sprite "animations", and C-Gear being completely useless.
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>>386933810
I enjoyed sun and moon and the more story oriented approached but honestly aside from a few fun gimmicky moments, they actually made the gameplay worse, most battles now are just 1-2 hit fights with type differences being instakills
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just play SMT games you fags, with actual challenge and non shit gameplay.
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>>386921637
>god tier
G/S/C, R/S/E, Colosseum/XD

>great tier
R/B/G/Y, HG/SS

>good tier
FR/LG, OM/AS, S/M, Snap, Conquest, Ranger

>meh tier
B/W, B2/W2, D/P/P Mystery Dungeon Series, Stadium

>bad tier
hey you, channel, X/Y, Trozei, the rest
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