What is your favorite metroidvania?

Super Metroid, Symphony of the Night, Aria of Sorrow and Hollow Knight are my top four.

>>386907417
Right now ori and the blind forest but axiom is definitely worth playing.

Anything but this trash and Portrait of Ruin

>>386907612
Super Metroid isn't a Metroidvania, it's just Metroid.

Why does everyone hate Axiom Verge? Aside from the pretty shitty final boss I thought it was really good

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I really liked AM2R, for a whole host of reasons.

>actually enjoyed Metroid II
>played all the other Metroid games, ran out of them
>AM2R releases, on Metroid's 30th no less
>download and start playing with /v/ immediately
>it's fucking great
>finish in about 8 hours including breaks, all one sitting
>Metroid threads are COMPLETELY devoid of shitposting for the next week
>only people discussing map completion, sequence breaks, shinespark puzzles, all the love and little touches that went into the game
>completely fucking free

AM2R made Metroid great again, if only for a little while.

Hollow Knight's pretty good too

Aside from Ghost Song, Blasphemous, and Death's Gambit are there any other promising upcoming titles?

>>386909026
The story is "pretentious" (???) for some, the bosses are kinda lame and the game feel kinda rushed at 2/3 of the game.

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>>386907417
Metroid Prime, but in order to be more hipster and actually contribute some variety to this thread, I'll say Aquaria.

>>386907612
Good taste

Arkham Asylum

>>386909026
Absolutely souless in terms of movement options.
Good metroidvanias have a decent flow going on that makes simply traversing the world fun. Axiom Verge does not at all have this.

>>386907417
La-mulana

>>386909656
Not a metroidvania

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>>386907417

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>>386909696
wtf is this meme

I like rabi ribi.

>>386909364
What the hell happened to the devs of Aquaria anyway?

Also Environmental Station Alpha is elder god tier.

>>386909069
AM2R is the best 2D metroid

ESA is my favorite metroidvania otherwise

Fuck man does anyone know what game I'm thinking of? Someone posted a trailer of it here a while back and it had like what sounded like 8 bit black metal playing over the footage and a somewhat occult aesthetic. I can't remember what it was called at all, tried looking through my history too but there's just too much shit there

>>386909790
interesting list, I didnt know there was a kirbyvania. I'd move la mulana down and move guacamelee wayyyy up

>>386909364
Hang on what the fuck son I posted before reading everything.

How the FUCK do you think Aquaria is a good game at all? It has horrible exploration that's gated by shittily implemented song transformation, gimmicky and frequently unintuitive boss design, disgusting animation quality, and any time you get hurt you can just pause the game and instantly heal back to full with the food you farmed and then cooked. The music is also noteworthy approximately 0% of the time, and the story is incredibly forced. It cannot be considered competent in any department related to artistry. Perhaps the biggest problem of all is the fact that the movement does not even feel good. You spend a ton of time just swimming in straight lines until you finally get the ability to dash but even then it's not interesting to move.

>>386910031
was it marrow

I've been playing the fuck out of Castlevania lately. I totally forgot about Metroid.
Maybe I'll go best shower Metroid and Zero Mission next month to get me hyped..

>>386910031
Slain

>>386907417
is OP's choice any good? I've seen it but I ignored it since /v/ shit on it

>>386909790
Metroidvanias are primarily action games with adventure elements. La Mulana is an adventure game with action elements. That is a huge difference. It's like comparing Doom with Metroid Prime. Surely you see the difference between them, and even though even Doom has adventure elements, no one would say Doom and Metroid Prime are part of the same genre.

You may as well throw The Swapper and Teslagrad into the pile too, since they're both "semi-nonlinear platforming" if that's your only qualifier. Nevermind the fact that they have almost no action.

>>386910161
That's it, thanks

cave story

I don't think Circle of the Moon is very good. It's drab as fuck and controls like ass

There, I said it

>>386910227
It's more metroid than vania, but it's a great game. Art is like pixel HR Giger, and the bosses are neat.

>>386910227
>actually believing what /v/ says
isually, in /v/ it's the opposite. When they shit on something, it means it's actually good. Remember that 70% of people here doesn't even play games at all.

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Guacamelee is my favorite one. Most fun in the genre in regards of platforming and combat.

>>386907417
Fusion

>>386910227
It's pretty good, really unique movement options toward the end of the game, but I won't spoil what they are. Also there are a FUCKTON of guns, half the time you find a new powerup it's another fucking gun, which is sometimes awesome and sometimes really disappointing depending on what you get.

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I don't know if I'd call it the 'best', but it's definitely the one I enjoyed the most and spent the most time playing

Fuck, what I wouldn't give for a steam port with a few extra chapters. The first month of launch was fantastic, playing it with friends online. Hell, I'd pay monthly for a lobby 'MMO' version with constant updates

>>386910468
Great taste

Outside of mainline metroid/castlevania games, my favorite is honestly probably Hollow Knight. Fusion is best metroid but it's basically tied with 2

>Steamworld Dig 2
>"forged in Metroidvania flames"
I want this meme to end.

>>386910691
I like hollow knight, but the map and fast travel mechanics make it really hard to recommend. If they add in fast travel from benches then I'd be totally happy with it. (solve 6 captcha in a row cmon now)

>>386907417
This one, haven't played it in a while. The difficulty, weapon variety & music were all great.

>>386907417
Super Metroid and Zero Mission

>>386907417
Axiom Verge is not a "metroidvania". The term only applies to Castlevania games.

>>386907417
umm...super metroid

>>386912494
"Metroidvania" is a term used to describe a sort of exploratory 2D platforming game. It comes from the original games of the Metroid series and some of the middle-era of Castlevania games (most notably "Symphony of the Night", which is what primarily gave birth to the term)

>>386909790
>Zero Mission two tiers higher than Fusion
kek

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>>386911003
Switch to legacy captcha
There's much less bullshit and you only have to answer one

>>386909026
The dev is best friends with Anita Sarkeesian.

>>386912745
Metroidvania is a term that was used to describe Castlevania games that play like Metroid. It has been butchered by morons, such as yourself, into vaguely describing virtually any platforming game where you go left instead of right, to the point where it has virtually no meaning.

>>386912748
Not him but Fusion is weak as fuck. It's incredibly linear, and only gives you what little options it has at the very end. It's really an insult to the Metroid name

>>386913060
I don't understand how somebody can be so pedantic about naming conventions while still being so wrong

>>386912745
Shut up underaged retard, you have no idea what you're talking about.

>>386913060
>look at me, I'm a stupid contrarian! Please shower me with attention and admiration!

Salt and Sanctuary.

>>386907417
n/a, they suck

>>386913349
>>386913381
Castlevania had absolutely nothing to do with inventing that style of game. It wasn't even the first series to copy Metroid's design by a long way.

Using "Metroidvania" to describe 2D platformers with exploration and backtracking is like using the term "Halostein" to refer to first person shooters.

>>386913374
No need to be upset. What would you prefer they're called then? 2d explorers? metroid-like? metroid-like for dead cells, maybe.

>>386913349
What did I say that's wrong? That's literally how the term metroidvania came about. It was to describe SotN, a game that didn't play at all like Castlevania games but was quite a bit like Super Metroid. Then people not in the know started applying it to every platformer with backtracking. What's particularly unnerving is when it's applied to Metroid games. It would be like calling Rogue a roguelike.

Yes, perhaps it's petty to complain genre naming conventions, but why group things at all if you're going to fuck up the group? People call shit like Shantae a metroidvania even though it has almost nothing in common with either Super Metroid or SotN. I mean, if I bought Shantae thinking it would be like either one of those games, I think I'd be justified in being upset that the idiots who said so were completely wrong.

>>386913673
It's ok anon, it's ok to admit if player-derived genre names are too difficult for you to understand.

Axiom verge was my first! and I Enjoyed it. seems like everyone here is hating on it, if I enjoyed that I guess I'm gonna love more from this genre. what should i play next?

>>386913701
I'm >>386912745 and have to agree with you here partially. I actually did buy shantae because it was defined as a metroidvania. It's not even close. however that only means that the game itself was mis-genre'd(?), but there are still games that are "metroidvania"

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Super Metroid, Metroid Prime, AM2R, Hollow knight, Axiom Verge to an extent, Environmental Station Alpha (minus the story, I thought it was stupid), and the first four Castlevania games. I didn't get a chance to play the rest, but those are my current favorites right now.

>>386907612
>>386909069
>>386909656
>>386909710
>>386909364
These gentlemen have good tastes and I would dare to call them my "niggas".

I would say Super Metroid. The Netflix Castlevania series made me interested in Symphony of the Night. I put it on my Vita and it's pretty good. I'm very early on, but any tips? Are the GBA ones just as good? I'm also really getting into the lore of the series.

>>386913673
Regardless of the relevance of Castlevania's influence on the genre, the convention has stuck, probably because it's easier or more appealing to say "Metroidvania" than it is to say "Metroid-like" or "game where you are trapped in a labyrinth and have to escape". If that's the term that's come to describe the type of game, electing to not use it for whatever reason is just being willfully obtuse for no good reason.

>>386913701
I think that's more of a case of mis-labeling the genre than the name itself. Metroidvanias can tend to vary quite a bit in their focus though, like how Ori is very platform-oriented and something like Axiom Verge is almost entirely about the guns and combat.

>>386914254
i just emulated it and beat it, i would say biggest tip is try to explore everything possible

>>386907417
I hated that you were pretty much forced to use the d-pad in this game

>>386910241
Metroidvanias are better adventure games than they are action games though.

>>386910129
>It has horrible exploration
No
>gated by shittily implemented song transformation
Try pressing the number keys, anon
>gimmicky and frequently unintuitive boss design
Welcome to Metroid, motherfucker
>disgusting animation quality
True, but it's an indie game made by one guy on a shoestring budget, so it's whatever
>and any time you get hurt you can just pause the game and instantly heal back to full with the food you farmed and then cooked
You can do that in Super Metroid too. In fact, you don't even need to cook, you just overload on regular health pickups.
>The music is also noteworthy approximately 0% of the time, and the story is incredibly forced
This is simply a case of (your bad) taste
>Perhaps the biggest problem of all is the fact that the movement does not even feel good
Proves that you're just lashing out because you're bad at the game desu, there are many movement tricks to use and claiming it's bad or limited just means you're a shitter who'd probably think Super Metroid sucks because of the odd walljumps if the hivemind hadn't told him it was the GOAT

tl;dr fuck off with your pleb shit until you actually play the game

>>386909026
The movement sucks major ass

>>386909790
if wonder boy is a metroidvania then put monster world IV into good tier

also shantae and the pirate's curse belongs in great tier

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Hollow Knight really wasn't all that great. I'd give it a 6/10. Above average, but it did not live up the the hype one bit.

>itt: anons unironically posting Ori as one of your favorites
you don't actually like videogames

>>386918517
Hollow Knight definitely lives up to the hype

My only issue is that I'm three hours in and I only have a few powerups

>>386918614
Ori was fun.

>>386918781
It's too short and the final boss is too easy. Travelling the maps is a chore.

Dark Souls is probably the majority of my top 5 metroidvanias.

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>>386918919
>complaining about a metroidvania being short

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>>386918919
HK has flaws but I don't think being short is one of them

>>386919059
>>386919061
Being short in combination with a lackluster final boss is a bad combo. You end the game with a bad taste in your mouth.

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>>386919061
>>386919059
>>386918919
>>386918781
>>386918517
got the true ending for hollow knight.

Do not buy this game. I barely enjoyed it the whole way through. I am a long time player of castlevania and metroid games. This shit is so uninspired, so dull that the actual gameplay is a complete slog to play through. The game is piss easy and I never lost geo and even the last boss Radiance is easy as fuck.

The story is a straight up rip from dark souls.

>lol the king held the void at bay by using a hollow knight to absorb the light
>lol you are the chosen und-er hollow knight and for the true ending must seal the light away and break the cycle

What else can I say really? The art style is awful.

Do you like Symphony of the Night? Well this is that game instead of the awesome sprite artwork you are alucard if he was made by a tumblr artist. The entire game I was wondering why everyone was shilling this game and this is my theory.

It's the undertale retards who never played a vania game before so this is their first step in the genre so it's SOOOO unique because its "underrated", except the actual combat is floaty garbage and you never feel satisfied killing enemies.

This game is cancer and if you like this game. Kill yourself. You are a worthless mongoloid who enjoys half baked indie games with recycled ideas from Miyazaki. It's boring. Fuck you.

>>386919159
Most people have 25+ hours though?

>>386919308
It felt short for me. I basically finished it and went "Wow that was easy. Oh, that's it?".

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Which one has the best storytelling?

By the way, never pick up Sundered. It's garbage, has procedural generation and endless hordes of enemies. I don't know how the devs thought it would be fun or challenging. Such a waste of good animation.

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>>386919283
"no"

>>386919283
Another one of these pastas?

>>386919530
"pasta"

KEK, fuck off

>>386907417
Dark Souls

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>>386919530
>anything that doesn't confirm to my views is pasta
Fuck off retard.

>>386909026
I hated the weapons and dropped it after 3 hours

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>>386908976

Playing Aria of Sorrow and goddamn its good.

I've been playing a handful of Castlevania games recently, and Order of Ecclesia seems like it's a lot harder than the others I've played (AoS, DoS, PoR). Is this common or am I just shit?

Worst Castlemania is my favorite. I've been hooked on the randomizer since it came out and I wish people would make more custom seeds.

As far as non-CV/Metroid, I really loved Axiom Verge, Castle in the Darkness and Pharaoh Rebirth.

I enjoyed all the GBA/DS games a lot. Even HoD.

>>386909364
>That ending
>That secret ending
>That no sequel
Well at least it was kind of fun to play through.

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>>386909790
why is la mulana in 2 different tiers?

>>386920140
End game and start of game

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>>386907417
>people actually think this game is good