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Dark souls has a new contender

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The souls genre has been redefined and mastered by the west.
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>>386903283
Animations and graphic fidelity-wise, yes.
Combat depth-wise, no.
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What's with the shilling for this game? It looks like the $30 game it is.
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>>386903283
Still better than GoW combat.
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>>386903283
This was nothing like souls
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It just looks like For Honor.
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>>386903480
>lockon
>rolling
>iframes
>parries
>crits
>kicks

>nothing like souls
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The aesthetics of this game make it really obvious it was made with unreal or some shit
it has that "cheap indie" aesthetic to it and its completely turning me off from playing it
same reason i cant play pubg
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Wat gam
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>>386903480
Saying Dark Souls means guaranteed replies
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>>386903595
>it has that "cheap indie" aesthetic to it and its completely turning me off from playing it
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>>386903807
Maybe its because everything is so empty
idk why i feel that way
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>>386903283
Literally "wait and counter" combat. Bin it.
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>>386903283
> that camera too close to the character preventing you from seeing the enemies nearby.
> That much window of time to hurt the enemy
> can't create your character
> probably too much cutscenes and scripted events because muh cinematic feel.

It is almost like they asked themselves "how can we make our own Dark Souls and make it worse".

>Ninja Theory

Oh wait they already did that with a franchise before.
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>>386903283
post name of game you fag.
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>>386903769
Pls don't destroy my pc
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>>386903595
Describe exactly what makes a cheap indie aesthetic. Sounds like you're just throwing words together
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Half the fun of Souls for me is making the character. I could give a fuck less about the combat, Souls combat is passable really there's no reason to jerk off to it like the fans tend to. Creating a character and gearing them up and finding the weapon you like the look of the most is where the fun is. I haven't played this game but it looks to me like the character looks the same from start to finish, and to me that's boring as fuck.
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So is every game with lock on, dodging, and light and heavy attacks like Dark Souls now? Because fucking Ocarina of Time did this almost 20 years ago.
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I like the weight
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>>386903283

If this gameplay is supposed to look good, it's the opposite.

Looks like fucking shit.
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>>386904253
That's a big reason why MMOs used to drive me up the fucking wall by having to look like a palette of throwup in order to have the best stats. Thank god transmogrification is a thing now (at least in WoW and Runescape, the ones I played the most).

Also, character/waifu customization is almost 70% why I enjoyed Dragon's Dogma to the extent I did and why it's my second favorite game.
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>>386903283
>The souls genre has been redefined and mastered by the west
Yet the game still ended up being a 7/10
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>>386904485
Gotta admit, having enemies react to blows is a lot better than them shrugging of R2 spam and ripping you a new shitter.
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>>386903283
>We've reached a time where people who still even ironically are shilling Tadeems games.

I hope you understand what you're doing is wrong. Every game he makes is the same. Hes a pseudo intellectual retard who takes a mature theme and then being a idiot misinterprets it and makes it edgy and retarded for no reason. His gameplay is always a lesser from other genres and the only good thing about this shit is the graphics and id hate to even give Tadeem that.
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>>386904253
>>386904248
>>386904041
>>386903919
>>386903807
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>>386903769
>>386903618
>>386903595
>>386903480
>>386903434
>>386904485
>>386904381
>>386904692

If you die, the game deletes your save. It's even harder than dark souls
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>>386903572

Didn't realize the Devil May Cry series was a souls ripoff. Thanks for the info friendo
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>>386904986
>Takes a fuck ton of deaths
>Game isn't hard enough to die that many times unless you're retarded
>A good game mechanic in general.

Reminds me of the extreme of it though. That shit shooter on steam that when you died deleted it and you had to buy it again for 10 bucks and people tried to say it was like a arcade game like retards.
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>>386903572
>third person action game that is challenging in any way

OMGGGG IT'S SOULSLIKE

Unironically neck your fucking self.
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>The Aragorn projectile-swat

Nice touch desu
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>>386903283
>Abysmal FOV
>Flashing meme flask QTE
>damagesponge enemies

This looks like typical #4theplayers bullshit, complete with the EMPOWERED female protage. This industry needs a crash, please.
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>>386903283
Nothing says "Souls game" like looking for letters in the background.
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>>386904485
Worst taste from worst girl.
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>>386904986
>>386905157

Was this actually confirmed?

I haven't seen it happen anywhere except for the warning message saying "all progress will be lost"
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>>386904986
>If you die, the game deletes your save.
Confirmed to be a fucking meme and not an actual mechanic. And even if it was, okay, you lose 5 hours of gameplay? Big fucking whoop.
And that gameplay looks awful.
>wait for enemy to attack
>dodge hilariously telegraphed attack
>proceed to unleash stupid combo that you don't get punished for
>repeat ad infinitum
Fuck off. I don't know why this makes me so buttmad.
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>>386904986
>If you die, the game deletes your save
No it doesn't. The game lies to you just to create false tension
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>>386903283
Artsy pretentious bs

NEXT

Also looks like complete shit
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>>386903283
The Soulsborne games are garbage so it's not that hard to create a better game in the same genre.
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I really don't see how even deleting your saves anyway would make the game hard. It's more annoying than anything, and it seems like something that was tacked on so the devs could claim their game is """hardcore""" and """"unforgiving"""". It's especially weird because from what I've heard it's a hard point to even get to.
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>>386905884
>I really don't see how even deleting your saves anyway would make the game hard. It's more annoying than anything,

yeah because it's okay when old games do it but not modern ones.Fuck off faggot. You all complain about easy games these days and when a hard game comes along you complain about "artificial difficulty" and "shitty controls" .

You faggots don't know what you want anymore.
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>>386903283
>that camera
Nah.
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>>386906050
But I never claimed it was even hard or that I was against it, simply that I think it was an odd thing for the dev to add to this game. Don't pretend it wouldn't be annoying either, no one would be excited over their saves being deleted.
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I can't tell if this is the terrible marketers or just someone being a troll now.
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>>386905714
>The game lies to you just to create false tension
That's a good thing.
I hope most people don't google this shit and ruin it for themselves.
I beat the game last night, on Hard, and only "died" once to Surter because he was my first boss and this was before I realized you could focus in combat to slow time/dispel illusions, but the possibility of losing all my progress if I made mistakes made the whole experience more meaningful.
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>>386906293
It's still lying to the player just to have a tagline for this games marketing. It doesn't add anything to the experience, its just bullshit
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>>386903283
>Tamamo Adonlades saved DMC
>If that wasn't enough, he saved Dark Souls as well
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>>386904986
>Dark Souls is hard
Can we stop with this meme, please? I'm not even trying to be a try hard. It's difficult by the standards of a generation of games that were seemingly made for recovering car crash victims. Yeah it's a challenge, and it doesn't necessarily hold your hand, but as long as you don't derp your way into situations, you should only die the amount of times in a playthrough that you should.
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>>386904986
>harder than dark souls
>webm shows that they took away Capra Demon's dogs and cramped boss arena
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>>386906428
It does add to the experience.
Have you never played a rogue-like or ARPG on hardcore mode? Have you never gone into null sec in EVE? Have you never gambled?
The thought that you could lose everything at any moment adds excitement and that's undeniable. If you don't agree that's fine, but you're in the minority.
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>>386906293
>one of the main selling points of the game being a blatant lie is a good thing
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Dark Souls
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>Literally deletes your save if you die

Its more soulslike than you think
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>>386906747
I have, if this wasn't outright lying to the player i'd be totally fine with it. But its just false advertising so they have something to put on the back of the box and on the steam page. All NT cares about is presentation, theres no substance to their games
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>>386906787
It's only a lie if you google it, and at that point you're already ruining the game for yourself. Your point—if it wasn't stupid to begin with—is moot.
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Shoulder camera isn't for this kind of games tbqh.
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>>386906958
Play God Hand some time, you fucking faggot.
>>386906898
>It's only a lie if you google it
This made me laugh out loud.
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>>386906898
>>386906894
>>386906787
>>386906828
>>386906851
>>386906714
>>386906508
>>386906442


Can you survive the entire game?
One death.It's over.
The hardest game in a long while. You have to plan each attack, and think each step through...Prepare to die.
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>>386904248
Not that anon, but basically everything is very simple room geometry with some random cheap assets thrown into the corner to make it feel like an actual place. Environment textures as balls, too.

Just look at OP's webm and you'll see what I'm talking about.
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>>386906898
>It's only a lie if you google it
Is this guy fucking serious right now
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>>386907756
Someone is either really devoted to this shitty bit or these marketers are fucking bad at their jobs
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>>386903389
Hellblade has much better graphics than all Souls games, Bloodborne included. Can't really compete with UE4.
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>>386906898
>It's only a lie if you google it
holy shit, I laughed hard at this
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>>386906898
>It's only a lie if you google it
Are you retarded? The game explicitly says all your progress will be lost if you die too much. Somebody intentionally died over and over again to test it, and it ended up being complete bullshit. Most of the tension in the game comes from a fake punishment that the player is tricked into fearing. Are you seriously defending this shit?
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>>386906898
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>>386906898
If you just google Hellblade, not even mentioning the permadeath it mentions how the permadeath is a lie. NT is literally lying to people.
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>>386903283
So I guess I'll say it: Souls combat isn't actually that good. Compared to, say, Elder Scrolls hell yeah it's the bee's knees but it's still mindless flailing with poor lock-on.
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>>386908037
>UE4
>Good
Good joke
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>>386903283
>west
>good for something

kek
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>>386903283
That looks really bad.
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>>386908228
>Souls combat isn't actually that good
What games do you have as a counterpoint?

I politely disagree.
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>>386903283
Dark Souls was inspired by Western games, so that makes sense.
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The combat looks really flaccid. Really, slashing someone across the chest with a big two handed sword like five times doesn't even stop them from doing a big, retarded overhand chop? Getting stabbed in the back doesn't even really stagger your own character.
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>post yfw you realise these cutscenes are rendered in-game in real time.
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>>386903283
Dark souls is the opposite of what I think of when I'm looking at good combat systems, its serviceable and only real strength is how many options you have to build yourself and play the way you want to.
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>>386904986
>>386907756
That doesn't make the game hard
that's artificial tension
the combat looks dull anyways. The animation quality is definitely there but it becomes like BOTW where you dodge and spam attack until they recover
it even managed to be easier than botw because of how slow the attacks are and how easy they are to read
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>>386908305
Not that Anon, but most games with cuh-razy combat (DMC/Ninja Gaiden and even Dragons Dogma) are inherently much better than souls in terms of hit detection, style, and execution.

I don't think Souls combat is bad, just restricted at times.
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>>386908305
Dragon's Dogma and Kingdoms of Amalur are pretty diverse without being trash, and Horizon has a good sense of impact
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>>386906898
>It's only a lie if you google it
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>>386903283
>Ninja Theory makes a shitty DMC
>Ninja Theory makes a shitty Soulslike
What beloved franchise/subgenre are they going to fuck up next?
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>>386903389
>Combat depth-wise, no.
Souls has no combat depth.
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>>386908849
DmC at least had some heart and a distinct style. This new game being shilled ITT looks like the most soulless generic bullshit ever.
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>>386908849
To be fair both companies made bad DMC and Souls games before Ninja Theory tried.
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>>386906898
>It's only a lie if you google it
I'm using this forever.
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>>386903283
Fuck off Tameem and fuck off neo-/v/ for falling for this shitty marketing.
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but.. there's no katanas
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>>386909006
Atleast something good came out of NTs shitty shill threads
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how is this hard? not a single enemy uses spin to win
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>>386903283
>2017
>/v/ still praising Dark Souls combat like its the best combat ever made

I bet you also think its hard huh
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is there anime in it?
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>all these hard games are coming out now

Thank God
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>>386903283
>Ninja Theory
>West
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>>386909881
>England
>not west
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>>386909583
Well to be fair, it's only hard because the combat's shit
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>>386909583
It might not be super hard, but it is satisfying and fun. At least to me.
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>>386903595
Unreal is a good engine though. It depends on the developers creating the game.
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>>386909583
t. never played any souls game more than 5 minutes
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>>386903283
a shallow for honor clone?
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>>386903572
>action games in general rip off souls
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So is it worth playing for the gameplay? Looks pretty fun
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>>386908037
This looks like ass.

>Water doesn't ripple at all.
>Clothes don't get wet (even Dark Souls 2 does this for fuck's sake).
>Bad, jittery animations,
>That fucking hair movement.
>Giant torch that radiates absolutely no light at all.

Garbage.
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>>386903283
The animations look nice, combat looks alright but what is it with western games and the cameras being WAY too fucking close? That enemy coming up from behind and giving the character a slap on the ass could have been avoided if the player was aware of it, but the close camera restricts field of view.
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>>386909583
The Souls series absolutely is hard. Compare the difficulty to the average default difficulty of games that have come out in the same timeframe and it's easy to see that the game is meant to be more challenging than your average game. It's absolutely overblown though and isn't impossible like shitters think, but no one on a fresh run of the game will be able to get through all of the content without dying unlike in most other games.
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>>386908037
That's not hard, all the Souls games look like ass. It's the same with Monster Hunter, they spend all the time and money making the gameplay good because who gives a fuck about graphics if the game's not fun.
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>>386908141
Shame its not banner season
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Why is it that I went from literally never hearing about this game 2 weeks ago with no threads on /v/, to hundreds and hundreds of threads this past week? It's almost like people are being paid to post about this game. Woah...
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>>386910780
Do you really think some people can go through entire games without dying once? Are you delusional?
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>>386910708
>combat looks alright
>that shit
>look alright
Are you for real?
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>>386903283
It ain't Souls. Look, I know people like to wank off to slow third person combat like that's all Souls is, but Souls is an RPG at heart with exploration, equipment, items, etc and barely any story. Hellblade is a linear cinematic story game with combat. It seems like a pretty good game, but a Souls-like needs the RPG elements or it's just a third person action game with slow combat. Fucking Bloodforge fits the bill in that case.
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>>386906898
>It's only a lie if you google it
You know this is why I keep coming back, even when my life is dwindling. For this shit man.
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>>386903283
That doesn't look fun.
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>>386910579
>So is it worth playing for the gameplay?
Well you can literally finish it in 2 hours and 90% of the content is just walking, no i'm not kidding
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>>386906898
>It's only a lie if you google it
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>>386904686
I think custom outfits is the norm now. FFXIV has em too.
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>>386903283
>dat rolling
DS IS FINISHED
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>>386911105
Yes, I'm pretty easy to please. Makes life that much easier. As long as the character and their actions feel nice to control, they're responsive and it looks fun to watch, I'll gladly play the game.

What's in the OP though looks a bit tough to move around, like you're driving a tank rather than a person.
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>>386904986
wtf i love Hellblade™ now.
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>$30 for a 3 hours walking simulation
The fuck is wrong with western dev?
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>>386906898
This cant be real.
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There was a post from about two months ago where we keked at punishing game mechanics. Specifically level drain monsters in the SMT series. It soon devolved in ridiculously punishing mechanics that included corrupting the save data, not only of the game you are playing but all your save data. Pic very related.
Dont let From read this post
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>>386910842
Name one story focused AAA action game with an over the shoulder camera that hasn't dominated /v/ for days if not weeks or months.
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>>386903283
Nigga that is just like a mildly expanded fucking punch out more so than anything else. Still looks kind of neat were it not for them slow as fuck enemies and attacks. Cool and all if your into that but shit just wont be for me.
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Hmm Soulkiller huh
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>>386911560
The only Soulsborne game that was ever all that punishing was DaS2, and everyone bitched about it so we got the retarded Ember thing in DaS3.
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>>386911681
>action game
You spend most of the times walking from this to that though
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>>386911726
Stop right there faggot, DaS2 was ultimate shit.
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>>386906898
>It's only a lie if you google it
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>>386903283
>those animations
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>>386904986

What the point of "deleting your save file" when the game is so pisspoor easy with barebone combat?
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>>386906898
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1O78yr8d8rO
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>>386911865
>DaS2 was ultimate shit.
Oh here come the plebs
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Is this the newest we hates Tameem meme?
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>>386912192
The plebs? its for casuals.
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>>386911865
That has nothing to do with what I said, but ok.
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Okami remake by Ninja Theory when?
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>>386906787
>one of the main selling points of the game
The fuck?

>>386906898
Memes aside, I understand what you mean- the tension that the statement creates is real so long as you don't find out that people have tested it and found it to be more than likely false. I hate that people threw such a bitch fit about it that people instantly decided to test and debunk it. You don't even have to google it- there were headlines about it fucking everywhere.

Sometimes I miss the old days where mysteries in games would actually remain mysterious more than an hour after release.
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2Deep4u
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I'm basing what I'm gonna write in Horizon, Uncharted and this game, but I guess there are dozens of other games that do this shit: Why the fuck do they always try to come out as progressive and pro-equality when all the strong female characters are always based on aesthetically pleasing and attractive women ALWAYS WITH THOSE THIN ASS TWIG ARMS! Strong people are STRONG arent't they? If you wanna make a something just for pandering than tell us so, but these skinny bitches couldn't even handle a sword against an oponent for five minutes! I'm extremely skinny and just playing around with a fucking broom already makes me tired as fuck. I want to self insert as a strong, demon slaying, motherfucking warrior not as a tee hee I'm a girl "beautiful" model who wears ethnic hair and gets hit by someone two times larger than her while still being "sassy". This doesn't make any sense!
In every souls game I made my character as tall and as bulky as it was possible because that's what a warrior is supposed to be. I'm mad with these developers that think they're being so pro-women, but only reinforce the establishment with their quasi-cute characters.
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>>386903283
lets list this thing's mistakes on the basis of it being a third person combat game, instead of a souls competitor, y'know. to be reasonable.

>camera is like 2 steps behind the player, there's no spatial awareness
>attacks are clearly telegraphed by flashing lights, slow in comparison to yours
>hits have SOME weight, but the fact that you have to wail on an enemy for like a minute, just takes away any sort of impact this would have.
>once again, lack of spatial awareness, made worse by the bloody fucking screen after taking two hits.
>unnecesary visual clutter by the previously mentioned bloody screen and that fucking distracting blue flashing from the character's waist amulet thing, at this point.
>no punishing from the enemies, they just let you attack them with a sword like the telegraphed bitches they are.
>Its a fucking walking simulator.

Do i have to say more?
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>>386912647
in b4 strawberry shortcake
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>>386912708
I don't understand what are you trying to say? driving is like walking something?
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>>386912380
Ehhh.... atleast the pvp was ok.
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>>386912868
No, it's a nice dodge.
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I'd rather spend that $30 on a single meal than this schlock, fuck off and die you shill.
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>>386910780
Nigga NES games like Ninja Gaiden and Battletoads were hard.
You couldnt just level up and upgrade your weapons/armors in those games.
You were forced to git gud and finish it in pretty much the same way you started.
Only millenials think Dark Souls is hard.
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On the permadeath thing:


whole damn game is a psychotic episode, they could have avoided all this turbo autism by just having one of the voices say it instead of text. You're buying into her delusions the entire game, throwing the text upfront confuses this.


It was a tension thing, it was poorly executed and the game decidedly suffers for it. That being said, it was a pretty solid experience.
.
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>>386906898
That's just false advertisement.
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>>386903283
>souls killer
HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH NEVER EVER
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>>386903389
>Animations
lol no
the animations are fucking awful
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post yfw you didnt fall for it
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>>386911560
>Dont let From read this post
FROM isn't that sadistic. They like games that are "punishing and hard" because the enemies themselves are strong, or the atmosphere and setting call for difficulty. That's how it was for Demon's Souls and Dark Souls at least.
Dark 2 went fucking nuts with the difficulty-for-the-sake-of-difficulty thing. Dark Souls 3 suffered because the dev team was stuck on creating fast, reactive enemies from Bloodborne and didn't adjust back to how slow a lumbering knight character would be.
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>>386913053
>it just all in your head whoah
So deep such magnificence writing you got there Tameem
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>>386907756
>think each step through...Prepare to die.
you could at least try to say something that can be taken seriously
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>>386903283
too slow
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>>386904041
The character is also Bioware ugly
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>>386903283
I have no idea what this is but it looks like shit.
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>>386910780
difficulty is not relative, fuckwit.
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What're the mental issues the game is supposed to explore? Psychosis? PTSD? Autism?
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>>386910589
>>That fucking hair movement.

Cornrows are solid like a rope you know. That's why female UFC fighters use it, because it's tight and hard.
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>>386913127
If this was 50 hour RPG with the same level of story focus, VA/animation quality and a bit more fleshed out combat and dialogue choices/character progression i would have preordered it for 60 bucks since i'm really fucking starved for a good AAA RPG especially with Andromeda turning out to be worse than shit.
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>>386903283
This legit looks like arkham gameplay with a sword
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Over the shoulder third person melee combat is now automatically dark souls?
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>>386903572
>Press A to jump
>The west has redefined the mariolike genre
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>>386906898
>It's only a lie if you google it

Or you know, die.
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>>386913385
psychosis and probably ptsd although i'm not that far into it yet, it's done really well, i would love a malkavian focused vampire game with the whispering voices that this game has, they're really well implemented
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>>386913127
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>game 1 borrows several ideas from game 2
>delusional retards think it's going to somehow be revolutionary and unique
>ends up being a disappointment because everybody already played the fuck out of game 2, so why would anyone be interested in a pale imitation of game 2
this happens more often than it should
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>>386913385
Schizophrenia, I think? I say that because I'm about four hours into it right now and so far you hear voices in your head non-stop telling you to do shit, mocking you, etc.

It's an alright game so far. Combat is extremely limited but satisfactory because fighting is so rare.

If you're one of those PC master race graphics whore fags then you MUST play this game because it's hands down one of the best looking video games ever made. It's fucking gorgeous, and has one of the most strikingly beautiful scenes I've ever seen in a video game.

>>386913260
Unfortunately that's because she looks just like her real-life actress (pic related) who is just that ugly, not because they intentionally made her ugly for the sake of being ugly, like Bioware does.
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>>386913385
>Psychosis
This. There's actually a near little featurette included with the game that goes into how they researched it and how they tried to represent it in the game.
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>>386906898
>It's only a lie if you google it
fucking incredible
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>>386906898
No mans sky has multi player.
But don't google that
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>>386913965
I want someone to pick her nose
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>>386913965
ye but why tf she have her mouth open all the goddamn time
gonna get bugs up in there
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>>386903595
>unreal
>"cheap indie" aesthetic

You have no idea what you're talking about.
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>>386914172
>No mans sky has multi player.
http://kotaku.com/massive-no-mans-sky-update-adds-basic-multiplayer-1797745321
>but don't google that
why not?
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>>386913965
>who is just that ugly
I don't think so.

She's ugly in the game because they constantly have a wide angle shot right up in her face that's always making angry, intense expressions.
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>>386914172
https://www.engadget.com/2017/08/11/nms-atlas-rises-multiplayer-update/
lol wut
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>>386904986
End this permadeath meme you fucking retard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JM3sxy21j3k
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>>386908861
And yet somehow this manages to have even less
Astounding
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>>386914280
>>386914337
Shame it took them an entire year after promising it as a feature on day one.
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>>386913965
Man the main character looked so much better when the game was first announced.
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>>386914324
Too much rouge
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Nier automata combat looks better and I didn't even like it.
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>>386910708
the voices in Senua's head will warn you when an enemy is behind you, if you listen to them they can be helpful sometimes
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>>386907756
That isn't difficulty though. It would just be an annoyance. Image meeting the final boss and dying because you don't know its patterns and attacks. Then you have to play the whole goddamn game over again.
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>>386914590
*rogue
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>>386914537
I prefer the final version, her character isn't supposed to be a power fantasy. She's a broken pitiable character
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Wtf with this New God of War camera style. Its too zoomed in to see anything
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>>386903283
>0:30
>wipes blood off his mask
good lord that's fucking stupid
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>>386914875
>rogue
No, it's rouge, you idiot.
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>>386911105
Funny thing is I think the combat looks awful too.
But it feels pretty good in practice most of the time.

Truthfully, the only problem I had is that there is too much of it. Not too many fights, mind, just that the trash mob fights go on too long and wear out their welcome.
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>>386903283
I had no idea this was even a game, thought it was some dlc for horizon zero dawn
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>>386914971
It's just over-the-shoulder camera. It's cinematic.
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>>386914971
>God of War
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>>386914498
it in no way excuses the game from being a piece of shit but it's still pretty damn funny that you said google it and that was the result, i didn't know about this update until now
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>>386903283
Maybe if that was the whole game or if there was at least more of it and Ninja Theory took the time to develop the combat into something more meaningful, then yeah we'd have something to talk about. But no, of course not. The combat is shallow, dull, and it goes on forever because enemies take a century to die. OP's webm looks pretty cool, no doubt about it, but so do high level combos in Neir Automata and anyone who's played that game can tell you that proficiency in the game's combat system isn't really necessary to pass it. At least Neir had other shit going for it while Hellblade has walking and looking around puzzles. Game is trash and Ninja Theory is garbage, as usual.
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Finished the game today, it's honestly a 6-7 at best. There's too much dull walking around, the camera is way too close, too much blur crap covering the screen, too many basic as fuck, repeated and sometimes tedious "puzzles" and the combat lacks any real depth, despite being fairly satisfying at first. I'd be entirely OK with the combat if you could actually change shit up or progress, but it's basically the same shit from beginning to end with like 5 enemy types. There's so little of it that it doesn't have the chance to get too old at least and one of the bosses was pretty fun. Trash enemies are fairly tanky though, fighting them can get old. Grafix can be pretty in some scenes, but in others you can see some pretty awful environmental textures. Too many little annoyances for me to get invested in the story too.

They did a good job with the psychosis part but didn't do a very good job with the actual game part.
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>>386904986
That doesn't mean much because the game is so short that starting over won't really set you back that much, and it's so easy, even on the hardest difficulty, that this will never happen unless you're really poor at video games. On top of everything, if you're THAT worried about it, then you can just back up your save data and circumvent the whole thing. The concept is interesting, I'll give Hellblade that, but the execution, as many aspects of this game, is poorly done.
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>>386913127
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>>386915876
I actually tried to find my save to manually copy it to cheese it when I died a few times to the fire maze sword trial and the savegame folder only has images in it, idk where the game actually saves to
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That combat looks way too hack and slash to compared to darksouls.

>>386904986
There's NOTHING HARD about dark souls death system! It's much more loving and caring then most games where if you die you have to reload and go through it again with no gain. In dark souls if you die you can make it back and get your souls + whatever you got on the way. This helps you improve your stats if you're lagging behind in development and can even be used to your advantage. I know I would farm blood shards from gargoyles in Bloodborne by jumping off the roof after I killed the last one because it was faster then warping and re-spawning.

FFXI had a bad punishment where you could even de-level from dying.
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>>386906293
>The game lies to you just to create false tension
>That's a good thing
It sure worked for TellTale.
It's not a good thing. It's a false promise that misleads the player for no reason, aside from game journos talking about how impactful a fake mechanic is. It's lazy and it's bullshit.
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>>386910847
>souls
>good gameplay
You must be over 18 years of age to post. Souls have gameplay the depth of a puddle, and it gets stale after the first couple of hours. That is, unless this is literally your first game.
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>It's only a lie if you google it
Get out of here, Tameem.
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This game looks like dildos.
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>>386908849
Well, they've already made a shitty God of War with Heavenly Sword and Enslaved wasn't that much better either. These people haven't made a single good game.
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>>386905096

He said nothing like not a rip off you autistic cunt
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>>386903283
>0:33
I'll try spinning. That's a good trick.
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>>386910708
>what is it with western games and the cameras being WAY too fucking close?
Try giving Siren: Blood Curse a go. Actually, don't. The game is trash and not worth you money. Art direction is excellent, literally everything else is awful.
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>Lets make all the soulsbabbies whine and bitch: The Post

Christ, summer can't end soon enough.
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>>386911497
I can't blame Ninja Theory for making easy money and professional critics are obviously paid off. I'm more concerned about consumers who keep buying up shit. The hilarious part is that if Hellblade sells poorly, they'll just blame it on having a female protagonist and that gamer culture is toxic. There is no hope in this industry. Either be happy with what little good there is or get out now, while you still can.
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>>386906898
>It's only a lie if you google it
Are you for real?
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>>386908037
That's what he fucking said, that it has better graphics and presentation, you sound like a shill making pre-programmed responses.
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>>386903283
>you have to die to continue
>combat is so piss fucking easy 6 instantly respawning enemies can't kill you
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>>386912320
>newest
Wew lad
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Just beat the game. It was.... fine. Good graphics, great sounds, engaging enough story, mental illness angle was interesting.

Gameplay was really dry, though. There's almost nothing to interact with most of the time, which makes the game feel incredibly sterile. The puzzles are very simple. I am classically HORRENDOUS at puzzle solving, and nothing tripped me up for more than a few minutes. Combat started off promising, but ultimately proved to be way too easy and way too repetitive. I died exactly one time in combat, in the second encounter because of a mechanic I didn't understand. Never again. Enemies are also way too tanky, and the end of the game just turns into a clusterfuck, with enemies spawning right on top of you over and over again. Like I said, it's not hard. I never died, but it's frustrating taking so many hits because enemies are spawning in so randomly.

I don't regret playing it. It was an interesting little game, but I really wish they had put more thought into the gameplay mechanics than none at all.
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>>386903283
Hows the weapon variety?
Does it have vague unexplained D E E P L O R E?

How are the armor sets? Hardly any vidya series can match dank soles in that aspect too.

The graphics look ok but thats it.
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>>386915589
>Dillon Heckenliable
You're not fooling anyone, Tameem.
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>>386917728
There is literally none of those things in the game, there are 2 swords that are functionally identicall except for 1 charged glowy attack, no new clothes, and the game is wholly linear
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>>386917728
No variety to the gear. OP is an idiot- it's not that kind of game.

Deeper lore than any of the Souls games though.
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>>386917915
How is OP even comparing the series then?
Why is this thread 200 replies long already?
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>>386918141
>talks about the combat

>why compare them DURR
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>>386918141
oh, I forgot the lore

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norse_mythology

there you go
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>>386913124
this

the hitting enemy animations looks awful, needs weight
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>>386918229
>lets compare any hack and slash form the past 30 years to dark souls
If you're not gonna kill yourself then stop posting.
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>>386918141
It's a meme and /v/, as a whole, loves memes
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>>386918141
>Why is this thread 200 replies long already?
>>386906898
This is why
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>>386918372
That's not hack and slash though you fucking retard.
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>>386918372
>>386918557
More than anything, this game's combat feels like a super-casualized God Hand.
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>>386903283
jesus fuck those ugly ass white effects on the sword slashes. No wonder they decided to go budget with this title.
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Oh good another one of these games

How creative and innovative
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>>386903283
I don't know if its a "souls contender" but the game is SOLID.
Hardly any replayability at all but its ok.
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>>386908861
>timing and positioning actually matters
>no depth
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>>386919025
>3 hours of walking
>15 minutes of combat
>SOLID
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>>386920167
That's perfect for the average western consumer.
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>Western consumer
whats this boner for westerners ?
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>>386920950
People think that's where all the money is. Because of the casuals and gullible retards that'll eat up half-baked cinematic garbage.
and they're right
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>>386903283

so gameplay

wow
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>>386903283
>ctrl+F
>Deep Down
>no results

I hate this board.
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>>386921595
Dead game.
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>>386921595
Deep Down looked like a literal clone though.
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>>386921595
>even copied the mimic from dark souls

What a shameless ripoff. Glad it died
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>>386906442
>I can be your angle.... or yuor devil
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>>386921595
I've never even heard of this game
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>>386906898
i didn't google it, some fag spoiled it in a news headline.
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>>386921973
It's basically Dark Souls with more interesting combat of Hell Blade with a less claustrophobic camera, made literally years before Hell Blade's combat was shown.
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>>386922287
>hell blade combat
You make it sound like HB literally invented this kind of shit combat
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>>386922287
>made literally years
It was never made, though.
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>>386921595

That looks like shit in almost every aspect
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>>386922402
Sorry, typo. I meant to imply that Deep Down did it better with a more interesting version of it years before. In comparison, DD looked like Dark Souls, Resident Evil 4, FFXII and Hell Blade combined.
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>>386907756
ALL THESE FUCKING DODGES AND ATTACKS BACK TO BACK

game may be hard, but don't compare it to dark souls. you get way way way more actions in a row in this game. even if there is one resource for dodging and attacking (like stam in dsouls) in this game, you clearly get WAY more of it in this game.
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>>386922586
That's because the player is getting ganked, you mongoloid.
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>>386903283
looks fucking awful
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>>386922656
>game may be hard
You can't even die though, i swear Nier automata easy mode with auto chips is harder than everything in this game
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>>386903283
>enemies are bullet sponges
>you don't even get a gun

no ty
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>>386903283
you haven't even touched the game yet.

Souls had so much micro detail in the controls. You have no clue how this game will compare to Souls.

Stop making this thread. Better yet, kill yourself, and let the rest of us enjoy gaming as we experience it.
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>>386903283
OP seriously sounds as stupid as Donald Trump.

I can't believe that people like this this are really a thing.
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>>386922812
for real?

i was just trying to give it the benefit of the doubt while denying the souls comparison. sounds pretty weak
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>>386908861
this bitch is salty that he can't keep up. Grow some balls and respect quality, 3rd person, melee, combat control.
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>>386921965
>even copied the mimic from dark souls

wew lad I don't know if you're joking or just retarded, probs both.
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>>386903283
>SJW shit
Nah.
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>>386903389
>>386913124
To be fair to both of you, these animations look average. Souls animations were above average. It's too early to tell if this new game has Soul's beat in the animation category.

As usual though. Bored plebs proposing arguments about something that hasn't even dropped yet.
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>>386922983
Hellblade is incredibly easy but that doesn't mean I didn't enjoy it.
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I hate that the western game industry has collectively fallen for the meme that the best part about Dark Souls is its combat

It's not
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Damn, she got whacked in the back and she didn't even flinch.
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>>386923175
remember when SRS was the boogeyman? Or how about JIDF? wonder what acronym is next for impressionable kids in their late teens to feel threatened by.
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>>386903434
Good question.

>>386903464
Dude GoW is guns. Why would you're tiny brain jump to that comparison. ... Get out of here, or start a thread in k/ comparing predominantly melee to predominantly ranged combat.

>>386903480
Thank you. 1 or 2 out of 10 anon's comprehend reality.

>>386903572
What he's saying is that you haven't touched this game yet. What about the minutiae of the timing? You look at something once and assume everything? Jackass.

>>386903643
LOL.. yes. Ok. You got me though. ... Whew.. It was a good run.
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>>386923359
fucking this

and before someone says "nah mang, it was the atmosphere," that statement is not precisely right either. Although it's closer to the truth, i.e. the atmosphere bore a larger share of the work to make it great, it really isn't any one aspect in particular. It was THIS much atmosphere, THAT much combat, THIS much unforgivingness, etc.

one conclusion to draw from this is that there is no exact formula for a good game. you can't specialize in one thing and expect greatness either. it's not as if we can create reliable metrical coordinative definitions for people's taste in video games. sorry.
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>>386904986
>swings a billion times without getting tired
>moves too fast
>shitty animation
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>>386906898
>its only a lie if you know the truth

the problem with liberalcucks in a nut shell.
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>>386923517
The latest one is CTR
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>>386907540
>>386907756
>>386907804
>>386908039
>>386908129
>>386908141
>>386908162
>>386908818
>>386909006
>>386911165
>>386911257
>>386911501
>>386911871
>>386912114
>>386912579
>>386913081
>>386913606
>>386914108
>>386914172
>>386916567
>>386917114
>>386918491
>>386922261
I should've realized you mouth-breathing retards wouldn't understand.
The game tells you dying multiple times will reset your progress. The looming possibility of losing everything if you do fuck up is supposed to create tension, and it does. Most people—with how easy the game is—have no reason to think that's a lie, so the device works.
That there isn't actually a permanent game over state is irrelevant, because players won't know it's a lie until they google it or purposefully die over and over, but at that point you've ruined the game for yourself by being a meta douchebag who can't enjoy things blind or immerse themselves in the story and characters.
Therefore, the perma-death in this game is only a lie if you google it. It's effectively real if you play as you're supposed to—not knowing anything and taking the game world and its threats seriously. Again, immersion. Generally speaking, it must suck being such a jaded asshole that you can't enjoy games enough anymore to lose yourself in them.
See if you can wrap your itty bitty minds around that, and then do me a favor and kys you're selves.
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>>386923606
GOD
OF
WAR
Silly billy boo, god you're so sexy.
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>>386925034
>this pathetic motherfucker came back HOURS
>H O U R S
>later to defend himself

I hope this is just some other guy pretending to be him.
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>>386925034
His entire post, its too late. Everyone that roasted you left hours ago.
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>>386925158
I'm still here, but only because I still have a tab open. I only came back because I saw I got a (You)
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>>386925108
>>386925158
I came back to /v/ hours later because I was playing Vanquish, saw a Hellblade thread, and realized it was the same one as before. Then I saw all the (You)s. Couldn't not respond, especially after some loser screencapped the post.
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>>386925034
top fucking kek someone screencap this thread
this is gold
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>>386925323
You really should have just taken that L. This is going to be the type of pathetic shit that keeps you up at night.
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>>386904986
>>386903283
If an generic enemy doesn't die in 1-3 hits your game will NEVER compete with dark souls.
Having to hit each enemy a dozen times only makes the combat spammy and grindy, something DS is not.
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>>386925370
>keeps you up at night
It's not possible to prove it, but I'm not at all butthurt. Judging by the shit-eating grin all the replies gave me, I wouldn't say all those responses constitute an "L".
I explained my earlier point since it was popular and that's enough for me. Go project somewhere else.
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>>386925654
>Go project somewhere else.
I'm not the one who came back to a thread hours after the fact to defend myself.
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>>386903595
This. Why can't unreal fags understand that stop-frames are important for making hits feel like they have appropriate weight behind them?
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>oh cool a new character action game
>it's a short heavily symbolic game about a girl going crazy
Oh god, is the plot as insufferable and incomprehensible as I think it is?
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>>386925108
Wow its almost like people leave threads open then do other things.

Before subhuman niggers like you flooded this site, we stayed in threads for days actually discussing things. kys
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>>386925876
I haven't played this game but I assume its subjective.
I most likely wont play this game but its story sounds interesting to me
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>>386925843
there ARE stop frames though
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>>386904115
Gross
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>>386925978
>Before subhuman niggers like you flooded this site, we stayed in threads for days actually discussing things. kys
4chan hasn't been like this for well over a decade. It sure as fuck wasn't like this when I came over in 2005. Threads regularly purged.

Now stop defending yourself for coming back to the thread.
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I saw this exact same thread the other day.
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>>386903643
dark souls is good
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>>386926101
Did some guy come back to defend himself 4 hours later in that thread too
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>>386926079
>Now stop defending yourself for coming back to the thread.
Why does this require defense? Stop attacking people for keeping a thread open then coming back later to respond.
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>>386903283
Beat in under 6 hours. 1 death. No exploration. No gear. Parry time so long you don't ever need to block or roll. Entirely a cinematic game. Nothing at all like Dark Souls.
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>>386926190
Probably.
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>>386926194
>Stop attacking people for keeping a thread open then coming back later to respond.
Make me, you little ho.
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>>386926350
Wew lad. Mommy got you some big boy pants today did she?
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>>386926423
I need big boy pants for my big boy dick and balls. You wouldn't know what that's like, dicklet fuck-o.
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>>386905535
You should play for honor. Punishments all day.
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>>386926529
Post proof or gtfo roleplaying faggot.
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>>386926646
>wanting to see my dick

boi
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>>386926702
>can't back up his claims
Yeah that's what i thought bitch. Now go clean your room kid.
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>>386925520
the only generic enemies in souls that die in 1-3 hits are the shitty hollows from the starting areas
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>>386903283
Why is she holding the sword so close to the body and elbows tucked in while swinging? It kills the feeling of momentum. Extend your fucking arms and swing that shit like you want to cleave a nigga in half.
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>>386926745
pitiful dexfag detected
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>>386908037
He said the combat was shit though, why didn't you try to defend that front instead of ignoring it?
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Surprised no one mentioned Absolver. For the 1v1 fights it looks really indepth
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>>386926831
dex is superior

i roll behind you, backstab, and then when you're getting up, i wreck your stamina with constant sword swings and you eat 50% damage and die
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>>386912579
Shut up you dont know how it was in the old day, fag
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>>386906898
Who's moot?
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>>386926946
you can do that with str except they usually dont survive the backstab
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>>386904986
>hovering mouse pointer over replies
>links to the same post over and over again cause some stupid mongoloid have to spam his post with 100 different 'Reply to this post'

Kys
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Code vein will be better.
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>>386903283
Well, OP, this combat doesn't look like fun and is way too slow. I don't think you can say that the Souls Genre has been mastered by some narrative driven puzzle game with some action sequences.
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>>386925034
i didn't google it thought
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>>386925034
>a is the truth if you dont question it
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>>386912987
Nes games were hard because you could have ended them in less than an hour
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>>386926051
There's stop frames on certain attacks well into it, and they're too big and handled ham-handedly.
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>>386903283
>>386904986
>>386906898
>>386907756
>>386908037

Calm down dev, we get it, your game is cool, now go shill it somewhere else.
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>>386907756
>>386904986
>>386903283
I really dislike the over-the-shoulder view for a melee combat game. You're essentially blocking visual cues with your own character. Great job.
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>>386913460
If fifa 2017 was witcher 3 I would have preordered it for 60 bucks
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This thread is infested by idiots and CASULs. No game in existence is more hardcore than Dark Souls.
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>>386903283
How come western devs have such big problems creating action games like this?
>>
>>386904041
Why are there so many people here reviewing a game they haven't played at all?
I didn't want to play this game, I saw the trailer and thought it was meh, but after seeing so many people comment on it on /v/ in the first hour of the release I had to try it. And it is good. Different than anything I played in forever, it's just what I needed.
>>
>>386906898
>it was real in my mind

KYS
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>>386903283
>same webm
>same subject
>same OP
Do your fucking job, faggot mods, obvious shilling is against the rules
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>>386925876
She doesn't go crazy, she was born crazy.
And since this takes place in shit ages, they treat her like cursed for it.
>>
>>386916854
Siren is an horror game, not a character action
>>
>>386918127
There is no lore though
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>>386903283
Such an obvious shitpost.
>>
>>386918275
Wasn't it Celtic?
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>>386919025
A solid turd
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>>386906442
>Devil May Cry's unlikely saviour
Kek

Well, actually, if you think about it, DmC failed so hard they had to make DMC4SE and it sold pretty well, so maybe he did saved DMC in the end.
>>
>>386929681
Senua is a Celt who was told of Norse mythology by Druth after he was taken as a slave by them and escaped and she goes into Norse Hel to save her man because he was sacrificed to the norse death god
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>>386903283
>The Last Souls of Us Creed
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>>386925034
>it's the truth if you just accept it and don't find out the REAL truth to it
Lol the Alex Jones pic is pretty apt.
>>
>>386925876

> Hey how should we represent mental illness?
> "It was all a psychotic episode," also fuck it just have the voices in her head represented by, uh, voices. But, like, now the player hears them.
> DEEP

Like, fuck, a high schooler could have pitched this idea.
It seems as though the industry will praise anything that decides to deal with trauma or disorder, simply for covering the topic.
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>>386903283
does the combat look better than Nioh?
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>>386903283
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>>386913208
He's likening it to dark souls, does Prepare to Die edition sound fagmiliar?
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>>386903283
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>>386903283
im going to doxx you and strangle you in your sleep
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>>386908037
All it has is a bigger saturation of filters (There's DOF, grain filter, etc...) and actual mocap for faces. That's it. This is a fucking walking simulator with basic combat tacked on to give you a possible fail state so it can do the bare minimum required to qualify as a game.
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>>386906293
>The Developer lies to you
>That's a good thing
Anon confirms No Man's Sky is GOTYAY
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>>386906714
who dis?
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>>386903283
That looks like shit
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>>386903283
The Surge already had more fun combat than Souls, and it's still fucking shit.
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>>386903389
>Souls
>depth

>>386919026
Positioning is the absolute last thing that matters in Souls. It literally doesn't matter at all with the exception of very, very few Xbox huge bosses. And usually even then.
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>>386903283
Is this the Clash of Clans of action rpgs?
>>
>>386906898
>>386914108
>>386913606
>>386916567
>>386924610
And thus a new meme was born.
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>>386926202

>you don't ever need to block or roll
Confirmed for not playing the game.
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>>386925034
This is the truth right here. /v/ has just forgotten what it means to play. Vidya are not games anymore.
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I don't remember endlessly walking down a predefined path, fighting 3 enemies max every 15 minutes and doing the same shitty puzzle over and over again in DaS though? WEIRD!
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>>386925034
>>386937259

see >>386935849
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>>386928341
>muh shill boogerman
You are the cancer of /v/ and must be die..........
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>>386908037
UE4 only helps with workflow, good graphics is still developer dependent.
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>>386903389
>Spams roll while trying to reach his enemy´s back.
Wow
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>>386905535
>wait for enemy to attack
>dodge hilariously telegraphed attack
>proceed to unleash stupid combo that you don't get punished for
>repeat ad infinitum
just like dark souls
>>
Gonna shave your head again after this failure, Tameem?
>>
>>386935709
Bloodborne is the one that hides behind fucking fitlers, some of the bullshots show it without CA/DOF & it looks pretty rough
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>>386937986
Okay first of all, Bloodborne is one title, he spoke about ALL souls games. Secondly, Bloodborne does CA, this game shits out about a dozen different filters. "Muh X does it too" is not an argument, its just you acting like a petulant child.
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DmC Definitive Edition is way better, whichbis weird to say

I've fallen asleep multiple times now because so much time is spent walking. The puzzles are either as boring as the walking or too brief to even notice they happened. And the combat is way too shallow when it finally does happen to make all the fucking walking worth it.
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Has anyone here played The Town Of light?
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>>386937760
(you)
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>pirouetting for a strike, leaving your back extremely open

retarded
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>>386906898

God damn it, neo /v/.
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>>386903283
>Dark souls has a new contender

No it doesn't. Dark Souls have never had any contenders, since Dark Souls gameplay is extremely unique.

Future Souls games should be either PvE only or PvP only.
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I enjoyed this game
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Game had a better response-feedback for combat, feels weighty and impactful.

It has a severe lack of variety, which effectively kills it.
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This looks like an unfinished product.

Not impressed.
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>>386903283
It's basically filler gameplay to avoid the walking simulator label.
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>>386938527
>he thinks it's bait
lmao
>>
>wear no armor to combat
>Doesn't matter I can take a 5 minute whipping with a sword to my bare flesh and still look and move the same and pretty much be ok
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