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Persona 4 is the best Persona game

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If you disagree you're wrong.
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>>386898687
I disagree with you, innocent sin is.
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>>386898828
Naoto is RIGHT THERE
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>Naoto in a school uniform
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>>386898687
I see you haven't played Persona 3
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>>386900602
I'm in the process of playing 3
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>>386900602
I love Chihiro and Maya and think Mitsuru's hot but other than that....
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>>386898687
I'm like 1 hour into Persona 4, is this gonna be gud? I loved P3.
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>>386900972
The characters are exceptional. Do you date multiple girls in ur playthroughs?
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>>386898687
>opinions being wrong

you can shoo now
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>>386900602
Or 1, or 2, or 5
>>386900972
No. The characters all have terrible cookie cutter development and it's all completely optional since it's tied to their social link.
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>>386900602
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>>386900972
PS2 or Golden?
It's a lot of fun. Worse but better paced story than 3. Characters had a nice dynamic.
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>>386901293
DO YOU WANNA FIGHT ME
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>>386898687
I don't agree that p4 is the best but your waifu choice is top tier.
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>>386901509
at least thats agreeable
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From what I've gathered, every Persona after 3 has just been waifu wars and nothing further than that. At least 3 had the whole message of cheating death always having a cost and dealing with suicide and depression.
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>>386901689
5 had a cost, they lost their witch magic
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>>386901509
>>386901591
Naoto is a literal retard.
>seems I've been following this case pretty well
>I know I'll use myself as bait
>but I won't have any hidden cameras to catch the suspect
>or any way of preventing actually getting kidnapped
>or anyone at all that might be able to save me if things go wrong
>oh wow thanks for saving me I'll join your team
>don't mind me, just the detective prince, I won't be contributing anything at all because I'm a dunce now that I've become a party member and can do nothing but suck Protag's dick
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>>386901106
>>386901293
I've only met like 3 characters so far, so I don't know yet
>>386901362
PS2, I know that Golden is absolutely better but I can't play it, feels bad.
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>>386901778
I haven;t played 4 or 5 yet because I was wary of whether I'd enjoy them. Especially if they got less deep.
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>>386898687
I personally disagree with you but I can understand where you're coming from so I can respect your opinion
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>>386901871
Adachi's whole spiel about life itself being shitty and boring was 'kinda' deep
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>>386901953
I wanted to make a sex joke about Naoto there but i didn't have the heart
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>>386898687
I honestly can't fathom what makes anyone like Naoto as a romance option. If I want to date a second-rate Buffalo Bill impersonator I'll dig around the seedier parts of Craigslist
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I like all of them, they all do different things well.
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>>386901871
You're making the right choice ignoring 4 and 5 if you want something "deep"
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>>386902003
I mean, he's not WRONG about how life is just waiting for an opportunity to force you to bend over and take it like the slut you are, but the message is kind of offput by his being a whiny bitch about it
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>>386902293
"Why choose reality when you can have a world of your own making? That's clearly the choice, y'know...I mean come on, we all prefer the easier life. Hehehehe.... You see, all reality ever gives you is boredom and bickering. And no one truly wants to live in a world like that. It's only because they think they have to accept it that they choose to buck up and deal. There's only one thing that's going to set you apart and let you succeed in life: it's the magic ticket they call 'talent'. And if you don't have it, then you're left to rot in despair. Game over. So wouldn't we better off without this reality crap? Someday, you'll all understand what I'm saying. No matter what you try and do, reality sucks. And I, for one, am sick of it."
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>>386902456
What wise words.
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>>386898687
I think they're all pretty bad, but I love them all the same. Haven't played a Persona game I didn't love yet, including the spin offs.
I think I could actually say more things I hate about the series, than stuff that I like about it.
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>>386902746
How do you love the series, yet have more gripes than things you like
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>>386902193
Teddie being Lucifer is deeper than the whole P3 plot
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>>386902456
Thing is with this is that you could swap a few lines around and it could easily become the spiel of any hero.
In fact fighting against apathy and "the way things are" is at the heart of P5.
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>>386902849
I love the games despite their flaws, not because of them.
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>>386903003
Hero? Mementos is basically tartarus
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Loved Persona 3 and 4. How is 5, for those of you who've played? I've held off from it because the series's battle system is kinda slow/shallow and I've always just sped through them in the emulators.
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>>386903261
Exactly the same as P3 and P4, only with slightly different dungeons and flashier visuals.
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>>386903261
The combat is a lot smoother and fun.
P5's plot is pretty good but the characters aren't really as engaging as those from 3 or 4.
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>>386903392
but takemi calls you a guinea pigggg
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>>386901840
Everyone is a retard in p4, despite all this Naoto is still smarter than most of the group.
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>>386898687
NAOTO IS MY WAIFU YOU CAN'T HAVE HER
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>>386903261
I thought the gameplay was overall faster, right now im playing P3 on an emulator and when i turn off the turbo i can't bear the slow animations, never felt that while playing P5 on the PS4.
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>>386903501
Defining intelligence with "smarter than retards" isn't an accomplishment.
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>>386903392
The party-members aren't as engaging.
The other slinks are way more memorable.
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Ok, ok. I've heard everyones opinions and reasons why they agree or disagree. So i have come to the conclusion that Naoto is mine and no one elses.
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lol no

Persona 3 Portable is the best Persona game
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>>386903346
>>386903392
>>386903594
Thanks, anons. I'm not really in any hurry to play P5 (I kinda wanna replay 3 and 4 first), but it's good to know that the gameplay's improved. At least it won't feel like a chore to go through dungeons anymore.
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>>386903763
In the land of retards the normie is king.
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>>386903887
Go to bed Kanji.
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>>386898687
>a naoto thread
finally!
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>>386903813
i dont like the auto ai of 3 but other than that its great
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>>386903887
FUCK YOUUUUUU>>386903542
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>>386903961
She's my favorite Persona girl stuck in my least favorite persona game.
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>>386898687
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If you don't want a hard boiled detective gf then idk what to tell ya
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>>386903934
>At least it won't feel like a chore to go through dungeons anymore.
No, it still is. It's just a chore for different reasons this time.

>but it's good to know that the gameplay's improved.
Gameplay is essentially the same with more features to make it even easier.
The 3D models are exceptionally well done though, so that makes collecting demons even more rewarding.
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>>386904164
I love Chie but the order is Naoto, Takemi, then Chie.
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>>386904081
i agree she deserves better. i just wish we got more of her in the events. i would kill to see her in a beach episode
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best girl coming through move along
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>>386904436
yuzu sucks ass
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Just finished 4, having played 5 first, then 3 and 4.. For gameplay, it's gotta be 5 > 4 > 4. For story, it's gotta be 3 > 5 > 4
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>>386904471
she can suck my ass any time heyooo
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i'm just going to post some naoto moments
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>>386904436
these games any good?

if I have the DS versions can I just play those? or are the 3DS ports better?
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>>386903908
>portable
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>>386904643
Yes
3DS ports are better but the DS games are very much worth playing if that's all you can play
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>>386904694
>likes to have his whole party cucked by MARIN FUCKING KARIN
>dislikes playing as a beautiful Nipponese who can date Akihiko
>eats at Arby's

seek help, shitter
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>>386904616
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>>386904643
>these games any good?
Yeah. 3DS is much better, but DS is fine too.
1 has the best story, while 2 had best gameplay.

3DS DeSu 1 is the best version.
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>>386898971
>Basing a game's worth on the design of one single girl rather than the depth of the entire cast
I like all the games just about equally and 3 was my first, but S.Links were a horrible mistake
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>>386898687
>Naotofags once again having shit taste
Stop the presses
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>>386904953
3ds - desu
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>>386904994
I don't follow.
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>>386904904
what
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>>386898687
I agree OP. In fact I think Persona 4 is the greatest game of all time
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>>386904298
Aw. Well, that's okay. Not thrilled about making things easier (3 and 4 were easy enough, imo), but it's not like I play Persona primarily for the gameplay anyway. Thanks for elaborating, anon.
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Do you think the gang for back together and discussed the heart thievery during Persona 5?
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>>386905069
>that rise
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>>386905069
finally, a fellow intellectual. As long as you agree that naoto is a godess among godesses
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>>386903261
it's basically just Persona 4, but even more normified, if you can believe that
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>>386905069
>Kickass

lolwut
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>>386905234
>>386905234
>>386905234
>>386905234
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>>386905095
Not so much easier as in difficulty, I meant like easier to play. Smoother controls or quality of life changes, I guess.
It doesn't change anything too drastically, but battles are more fluid and Confidant Skills make managing dungeons easier. The only issue is that in exchange for smooth battles we got clunky tutorial palaces.

P5 is my least favourite Persona game, but if you enjoyed 3 and 4 I'd highly recommend playing it.
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>>386905232
Im sorry to let you down, but Im a Risefag at heart. Naoto is my 2nd favorite girl though
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>>386898687
I think 3 is the best but 4 is second, 4 is a far better Persona game then 5 is. 5 of course has better gameplay due to the new technology and development time but no one can pretend that 5 had a good story, the ending in particular was really a let down.
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I OFFICIALLY CLSIM YUMI AS MINES

BIG FOREHEADS ARE LOVE AND A PERFECT LOAD TARGET
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>>386905631
fuckin damnit, everytime i think ive found my kind i get blue balled
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I like Persona 4, but its easily the weakest of 3-5
>Lame Characters
>Lame plot
>final boss comes outta left field
>Lame antagonist
>Causal as fuck gameplay compared to 3
>Naotofags
I really don't see how people could honestly think 5 isn't better than 4 when its basically P4 done better.
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>>386905861
you can't change me, i was born a naotofag, what if i asked you to suddenly start liking ANN? HUH?
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>>386905214
my nigger
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>>386905861
>All that time spent developing.
>Supposed to be so much better than everything before it with entirely new dungeon style.
>Is literally just P4 with a slightly altered coat of paint and a bunch of half assed dungeons.
How could we not be a little hateful?
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>>386905681
You bash on 5 on having having a bad story, yet use that as a criteria to put it lower than 4?
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>>386906114
i've heard this from a lot of friends I trust and I can't believe the game got those high scores

oh wait, yes I can because reviewers (and most gamers in general) have garbage taste
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>>386906114
i thinks its like 3 more than anything, mementos = tartarus. and demon negotiation is back
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>>386905696
You must really like Persona 5 then. Every girl's head is huge
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>>386905861
>Lame plot
>Lame antagonist
Your gonna tell me that Pancake boy is better then Adachi? And that a plot centered around some villain of the month bullshit is better then 4's? Come on now
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>>386906338
the getting sick and tired things was interesting but really annoying in the long run
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Why is Dojima such a dilf?
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>>386906547
thats something you don't see everyday
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what does Naotofags think of epilogue Naoto?
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>>386906650
non canon, not even worth mentioning
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>>386906189
I mean the new features are great aside from palaces, but otherwise it's the exact same game as before.
It's understandable fans would be a little angry.

>>386906223
Mementos = Tv World = Tartarus = Rumours situation = Alternate Town. All the games have the same sort of deal man.
Demon negotiation is cool and all, but it's hardly a saving grace. And it's still also pretty random.
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>>386906764
What
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>>386906547
I just would love to call him daddy as he sternly tells me not to jerk off while he's strectching my bp
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>>386906947
>>386906947
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>>386906114
P4 was pretty much a rush job. Reusing character models straight outta 3. P5 basically the real successor to P3

>>386906338
Pancake boy was trash too, and Shido is the main villain and shit on both of them easily, and it sure as hell beat the "Lets stop a murderer who is targeting people, and even though we know whos going to get pushed into the tv, lets fuck it up 3 times until we finally get it right"
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>>386907038
I didn't think dojimafags even existed
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>>386906895
>And it's still also pretty random.
It's not, you're just bad at it
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>>386907081
What are you trying to imply here?
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Why is everyone acting like 3 was this high point in the Persona series, its second best. That AI kills me and its easy mode is too easy and its normal is too hard
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>>386907180
I know it's not actually random man, but it's hardly refined either. Besides they give you skills that make it 100% irrelevant anyway.
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>>386907237 because of the mixed reviews, its non canon so it no longer matters
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>>386907081
>long hair
i'm still in denial to this day
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>>386907434
But the epilogue of P4G is canon
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>>386900602
I'm currently playing P3(haven't played P4 yet)
What's so good about it?
I just rescued that Fuuka girl, but the game has been pretty boring so far.
The AI controlled party makes battles boring.
Loading screens every fucking where. Shit is ps1 tier.
The dungeon also remind me of the ps1 days. Not even Azure dreams tower was this bland or boring.
Story.. what story?

Are all the persona games like this?
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>>386907512
haven't played golden, better have ended with coming back for naoto
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>>386907596
More or less. You basically go back to Inaba to see your friends again
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>>386907581
i like 3 but yukari and fuuka suck. I love chihiro, maya and elizabeth tho, and when i get to her ill probably like aigis.
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>>386903501
>smarter than most of the group
>"hey guys lets throw this namatame guy inside the tv!"
She's as retarded as Chie.
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>>386904436
nah
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>>386906095
Thank you for that doujin
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>>386907663
nice, but how did you play golden with new chie's voice
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>>386907581
That's the thing about 3, it has the best story but 80% of it happens in the last 20 hours of a 60 hour game
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>>386907760
they were angry and blinded by rageee
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>>386907038
I want Dojima to punish me in the interrogation room.
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>>386907802
I've heard worse
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>>386898687
Not quite.

5>4G>P3P>2>4>3>Q>1>FES
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>>386907773
>dumb suicidal bitch
>good
Flat bitch and her escort missions can suck my dick.
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just putting this out there, its canonical that naoto has the biggest tits
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>>386907760
She's dumber than Chie.
At least Chie contributes to the plot
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>>386907963
everything>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>your brain
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>>386907890
And a game like that is considered the best persona game or was that guy shitposting?
I'm starting to believe that the persona series might not be for me.
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>>386907596
well i mean in end of her social link and in DAN its been implied that Chad and Naoto are working together.
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>>386908020
In P4
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>>386907979
>he doesn't want to repair a damaged girl
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>>386908101
>Chad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mt2ZHp3IaiU
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>>386908125
Sorry, I'm not a normalfag. Whores and dumb bitches can go to hell, and Haru is probably both.
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>>386906650
Its good that they finally showed that she actually has big tits instead of just implying it in dialogue.
https://youtu.be/eFx-TTlj6Og?t=60
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>>386908062
The other games have better pacing, but the best game is subjective.
If you aren't enjoying the gameplay loop of S.Links, fusing, and dungeons then no the games aren't for you.
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>>386898687
While I think its small town atmosphere is the best thing ever, P3 did story better and P5 did gameplay better
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>>386908278
>>386908278
WHAT IS THAT COSTUME FOR NAOTO CALLED
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>>386908184
haru is pure and perfect.
>loves mc
>best ending
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>>386908241
The Slinks and the fusing are okay, but I'm definitely not enjoying the '''dungeon'''(s), and the loading/transition screens are pretty damn annoying.
It's a bit too early to drop the game, but I'm feeling somewhat disappointed at this moment. It went from shooting yourself in the head to go to school and watch these sick loading screens.
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>>386908375
Coronet armor
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>>386908454
But Atsuro is unobjectively best girl.
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>>386907779
first one is better imo but second has a better cover
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>>386907802
>unironically like chie's voice in p4g
the OG chie's voice sounds so old
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>>386908375
I forget what her's is called, but Yukiko's is the magic armor iirc. I never bothered to try to get them when i played through Golden
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>>386908454
>loves mc
Like pretty much every other girl in the game and they don't show their nipples to half the city.
>best ending
Yes, Gin's ending was pretty damn good.
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>>386908375
i think its called high cut armor i remember getting it from the teacher in winter and is probably get one depending on who you romance
i have one in my game
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>>386908552
Atsuro also suffers from terminal autism.
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>>386908574
whats wrong with you. even if she did sound old which she doesn't, id prefer milf to chipmunk
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>>386908619
>and they don't show their nipples
Neither does Haru, she's so stylish she defies physics.
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>>386908578
Thankfully Naoto's is the easiest to get, all you need to do is answer a few questions right, the other ones involve grinding items.
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>>386908706
For a highschool girl, it sounds pretty cute. Hearing her say I love you made me pre
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>>386908646
The brightest flames die out the fastest.
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>>386908835
Just because the MC is a manlet doesn't mean the rest of the characters are.
Gin has probably grown tired of watching her ugly ass purple nipples.
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>>386908870
idk man, no highschool girl i know sounds like a singing rodent group from the 60s
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>>386908897
it was kind of sad in the chaos route.
>haha we sure are killing a lot of people
>we must be doing it for a good cause though
>if i can't find a way to justify this i would probably commit sudoku
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oh fuck i haven't finshed devil survivor the threads morphing into one about it
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>>386908706
That voice tick she does in Golden when her voice gets slightly sad or quiet is amazing, but overall I'd say she's just average at best.
I even liked PQ Chie though, so none of you will acknowledge my opinion.

>>386909054
High pitched high school girls exist anon, it's not strange at all.
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>>386898687
I like Persona 1 the most.
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>>386909073
>follows you into the depths of hell
>watch you fuck his waifu
He is too good for his own good.
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>>386909487
get out, though i can't objectively judge a game i haven't played, get out
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>>386909580
kanji did that same thing
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>>386909680
Kanji wanted Yu's dick though.
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>>386908986
wrong, no nips, haru is always perfect.
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>>386909782
Yosuke wanted Yu's dick. Kanji wanted Naoto's dick
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>>386909782
*Naoto's mangina
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>>386898687
5 has better gameplay and 2 (or 3 if you're one of those who think Final Fantasy really started with VII) have better story. Also,
>not even posting best girl Larry
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>>386909883
5's gameplay is the same though, only flashier.
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>>386909829
>no nips
Haru confirmed for male. No wonder you like him so much, fag.

>>386909839
>>386909850
Kanji wanted both. He had to make a choice between Yu's 12 incher and Naoto's negative ass.
Guess which won
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>>386909979
demon negotiation, taking social links to different places, using bot guns AND blades
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>>386910050
>Guess which won
Neither?
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>>386909839
>>386909850
>>386910050
Kanji had his chance but he was too oblivious
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>>386910050
>boys don't hate nips
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>>386910272
Yu is such a slut, should just stay with Naoto and Naoto only
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>Lots of dialogue in the games hint that Nao is actually fucking stacked
>No visual evidence reflects that
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>>386909979
>Return of guns and demon negotiations
>Social Links have other benefits outside of fusions
>Baton Pass
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>>386910424
It's a bit more obvious in the epilogue of golden.
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>>386910349
Boys love nips! They have no nipples though, this is a fact.

>>386910424
It's animemeland, binding your Double Ds to flatter than a pancake is more than possible.
It's still dumb as hell and I hate it.
Naoto's tits and people ignore the fact that Aigis doesn't look human annoyed me to no end.
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>>386910685
>and people ignore the fact that Aigis doesn't look human
Some of the NPCs mention that she looks like a doll and it changes as the game goes.
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>>386910205
>>386910509
None of which are very big changes.
Demon negotiation is just bringing back a removed feature and Guns are just bringing back another damage type that was removed too. Not to mention the fact that guns are very rarely used anyway.
Taking social links places just makes days when you're not ranking up the link less repetitive, but ultimately changes next to nothing.

It's the exact same formula with the same execution, they barely added anything major to the table besides 3D models and Confidant Skills.
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>>386906547
Brojiro > Doshitma
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>>386910612
HOLY FUCK! MUH DICK!
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>>386910424
>No visual evidence reflects that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTB1oWxtCAM
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>>386910843
Whats this Yukiko even from
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>>386910843
Persona 3 was simplified and removed gameplay elements, persona 5 brought them back and added other stuff like social link bonuses (which adds other mechanics like party switchinig) and baton passing, there isn't much they can change, smt games have always had similar combat to a degree and the amount that persona 5 changed is pretty good compared to persona 4.
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>>386910798
>that girl looks like a haunted doll.
>so what did you have for breakfast today?
Like, c'mon! She doesn't even have feet.
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>>386911064
I HAVE REACHED THEN END. I HAVE SEEN ALL THAT WAS AND WILL BE. MY TIME ON EARTH HAS BEEN WELL SPENT. THANK YOU BROTHER FOR THIS IMAGE OF GOD ITSELF.
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>>386911536
theres no wee wee hole
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you guys wanna see my TEDDIE PADDLE
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>>386911131
Google says P4Arena, but I don't recall Yukiko like this in that game.

>>386911283
Which is why I said it's the same gameplay, but flashier. It's nothing revolutionary, just another Persona game post P3.
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>>386911579
It's a very underwhelming not-porn scene in the game itself man, like did you not play it at all? There's even a Marie one, if that's what you're into.
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>>386911758
STOP. ACTING. LIKE. P3. WAS. THE. HIGHEST.POINT IN PERSONA HISTORY. IT MAY HAVE BEEN THE FIRST 3RD NEXT GET PERSONA, BUT THATS OVER NOW
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>>386911658
sad but true
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>>386910272
>Kanji had his chance but he was too oblivious
No he fucking didn't.
He never had a chance.
Naoto has never once expressed any interest in him.
You have to have MAX INTELLIGENCE to start a social link with Naoto.
She's not interested in dumbasses, dude. Holy fuck Kanji x Naoto shippers have fucking blinded the entire internet with their fantheory faggotry.
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>>386911856
UNDERWHELMING (btw i did beat the game), ANYTHING WITH NAOTO WEARING LESS THAN A SUIT IS HOT
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>>386911974
having a rough day anon?
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>>386911968
Nothing a good still and ziodynecock can't fix.
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>>386911974
>have to have MAX INTELLIGENCE to start a social link with Naoto.
This is the reason she's my least favorite P4 girl. She's almost as bad as those P3 bitches who believe theyare too good for you.
But, hey, at leqst Naoto wasn't your fucking roommate.
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>>386912365
i think the max intellegence was more for solving the mysteries , i don't think naoto is a stuck up bitch
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>>386912365
>She's almost as bad as those P3 bitches who believe theyare too good for you.
She's friends with everyone else in the investigation team too, she just doesn't want to waste her time with people less serious than she is. It's like not enjoying stupid jokes or pranks, and it's entirely okay.
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>>386911885
I didn't say anything of the sort. I said it's got the same gameplay, with changes that only make the same formula as 3 run smoother.
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P5>P3>>>>>>P4

P5 is cool, P3 is dark and disturbing
P4 is anime fanservice
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Definitely Golden. There is absolutely no reason not to.

>inb4 marie
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>>386898687
What sexuality do I need to fuck Naoto?
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>>386913010
which ever sexuality is like good taste
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>>386913010
If you're a guy then straight, Naoto's issues had nothing to do with sexuality, she didn't think that she would be taken seriously so she pretended to be male.
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>>386912506
>>386912587
>eanna han out today?
>nah, you are too stupid
You can make excuses for her all you want, but this is exactly what happens in-game.
She might be friends with everyone, but you don't start to 'bond' with her if you aren't smart(was that the only requirment?) enough for ms. Ace detective
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>>386913152
>
and kanji's just scared of girls being mean to him, just like half of /b/ heyoooo
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>>386913010
if you like this then your good
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>>386913350
because you can't help her solve mysteries if you fail all of your fucking finals, anon
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>>386913010
Garbagesexual.
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>>386913010
Who wore it better?
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>>386913536
i bet you jack off to yukiko
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>>386913598
the one with short blue hair and pale grayish-bluish eyes
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>>386913705
So, both.
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>>386913705
Who could that possibly be?
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>>386913598
the one one that wasn't canonically executed
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>>386913465
Whay does that have to do with anything? The social link doesn't even start unless you are smart enough.
>normal people
>just meet them and the slink starts
.>tricky people
>have to meet them a couple of times before te slink starts
>bitches and whores
>stat requirement because they are too good for you
You can blame it on being a poorly designed alink all you want, but Naoto being the only party member with a stat requirement makes her look pretty bad.
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>>386913350
Being attracted to intelligence is fine. In fact, that's a very good thing. She hangs out with Rise who probably sucks her giant hot futa schlong every night too and Rise is the most offensively retarded person on the planet.
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>>386914031
>Bitches and whores
>Having standards
Pick one, you were so desperate for a narrative to your ridiculous bullshit you invented one utterly nonsensical.
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>>386914039
sauce?
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>>386913970
But anon, Door's still alive.
Haven't you seen the trailers? He's dancing now.
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>>386911974
This always pissed me off too, not to mention Kanji is too good her anyway.
Kanji x Rise was better anyway, but because Persona is too much of a bitch series to have party members shack up, it will never happen
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>>386914216
No idea I just saved it off 4chan.
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I'm starting to think the anon mad at Naoto because he has some kind of bad experience with girls and not being smart enough.
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Who's this cute little boy?
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>>386912860
>P4 is anime fanservice
I feel like P4 got bastardized during the milking period. Even if the overall mood was lighter than the other too, the original game had plenty of dark turns and character moments. Everything that came after it though (including Golden, the Animation, P4A+U, PQ, and DAN) dialed up the wacky anime hijinks to 11.
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>>386914435
Naoto is far from smart.
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>HOLD THE LINE!
why does this pull me into choosing this option?
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>>386914469
Edgeworth with a hat?
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>>386914240
I think he's talking about the hot spring scene where him, Junpei, Akihiko, and Ryoji were caught and "executed" by Mitsuru
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I love Fuuka
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>>386914139
>having standards
>to hang out with your supposedly friend
Do you know how retarded you sound?
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So does ANYONE like Yukiko? No one ever seems to talk about her in these threads. I don't really like her either. Something about her has always rubbed me wrong, and I can't quite put my finger on it.
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>>386914713
>Your "special friend" is literally too "special" to keep up with your interests
>This is a good basis for bonding :^)
This, anon, is why you're a foreveralone fag.
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>>386914654
you're fucking crazy
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>>386914616
what the fuck was her problem besides her dead father
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>>386914616
I forgot about that part, my bad.
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>>386914824
Yup, you are just a dumb Naotofag.
Have a last (you)
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>>386914559
some sort of bitter hatred of detective, girls, and the idea of intelligence. this anon has some kind of dark past
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>>386914818
I think P4 Yukiko is okay, while P4A and PQ Yukiko's are god tier.
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>>386914839
Love is a crazy thing for sure, but it's the fun kind of crazy.
Thanks to Fuuka my life is the greatest it's ever been
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>>386914818
I liked her.
She's has the most plain personality, but at least its not bad.
She's also the best party member in terms of power by far
>>
Naoto also requires max courage.
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>>386914818
>socially awkward
>annoying laugh
>dumb voice
>boring backstory and social link
>le "bad at cooking" trope

Yukiko is worst girl

I will admit that she got better in other games
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>>386915053
Am I really living? Is this reality? I think I've found someone at peak happiness because of a boring character. Bravo, anon. Bravo.
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>>386914952
>Getting so BTFO you rush off the stage with tears in your eyes shouting that you totally won anyway
Woaw, amazing.
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>>386914892
She was a bit autistic
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>>386915205
She's not boring, but thanks
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>>386914983
Nah I just hate poorly written characters, but I have noticed that poorly written characters and female detective go hand in hand in anime.
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>>386915178
all the girls are bad at cooking, except 3rd best girl nanako
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>>386915315
were you touched by a female detective?
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>>386914654
Good for you. What does that have to do with this thread though?
I seriously doubt Fuuka is into attention whoring.
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>>386915416
was your mom a female detective and she drunkenly beat you every night?
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>>386915416
Yes. Shit was cash.
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>>386915329
Yet only for Yukiko is it a major aspect of their character. That's how boring she is
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>>386915483
Everyone was talking about persona girls so I chimed in by saying I loved Fuuka
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>>386915416
>>386915504
>>386915570
>you will never get a female detective on your dick
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>>386915582
don't scare away FuukaBro. I enjoy his positive energy
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>>386915329
Persona 4, just like Persona 5, follows the rule of "best girl lives with your caretaker".

Ergo, QED, concordantly, Nanako is best girl
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WAIT I GOT IT! HE'S MAD BECAUSE A FEMALE DETECTIVE WON'T SUCK HIM OFF! >>386915661
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>>386915731
you live in a dorm in p3, are they all best girl?
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>>386915835
can you blame anon?
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>>386915835
This is falseflagging, r-right?
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>>386916013
Ann and rise are my favourites in the series
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>>386898687
It's a good game, but Teddy is fucking annoying.

So of course Atlus decided to make the Fucking Annoying Animal Mascot in 5 spend the entire game with you.
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>>386915946
>>386915946
I cannot. Instead of transforming those repressed feelings in to love and devotion for naoto he changed it into anger and hatred for the very idea of cute female detective. That was his downfall.
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>>386898687
t. Newfag who's only played Persona 4
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>>386916013
Please put Ayane into A Tier and replace Mitsuru with Elizabeth, then I agree with everything except P5's Tier list.
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>>386916013
Chihiro and Takemi are both B rank? Nah
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>>386916124
i beat 5 and am in the process of beating 3
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>>386916084
you really are a detective prince
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>>386916013
Agree but I've never found Mitsuru attractive in any capacity and Tae, the goth doctor, is my dream woman.
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>>386898687
When casuals haven't played the glorious P2 duology
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>>386916364
Persona 2 games suck ass because they fail to have remotely good gameplay, which is by far the most important part of a game. The story doesn't prevent them from being bad games.
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>>386916013
>Mitsuru
>Rise
>Ann
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>>386916013
need to switch Yuko and FemC, otherwise, perfect.
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>>386916013
Why would you date the female main character? That like selfcest or something. Thats some serious narcissism
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>>386916013
Let me fix that for you
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>>386917256
yukarifags GTFO
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daily reminder
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>>386916902
That's the only thing you have a problem with? Not the fact that he dated a prostitute and that she's high tier?
Where did everything go so wrong?
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>>386917256
>yukari S+
>Aigis in trash
Horrible taste. Just sad.
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>>386917256
P3 list is pretty good. Can't say the same for the others though
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>>386917449
WHOA WHOS THE PROSTITUTE I WILL DATE THE PROSTITUTE
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>>386917526
>Aigis
>Trash
How can you agree with that?
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>>386917256
Yukarifags with shit taste as always
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>>386917467
Aigis is the ultimate waifubait character. She deserves to be at the very bottem
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>>386917349
This is only true for those locked behind stat progression.
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>>386917256
>Nobody likes Ohya.
You can all just go catch Apathy Syndrome and waste away in the back alleys, you tasteless bastards.
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>>386917610
Aigis is the most waifubait out of any female character in Persona. Also robots can't be waifus
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>>386915483
>thread about persona girls
>lol what does Fuuka have to do with the thread
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>>386917896
Don't worry FuukaBro, i like your presence
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>>386918003
I'm not him, I'm just trying to understand his mindset
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>>386917896
>read the op
>not a single word about persona girls

>i like x!
>contributing to the thread
Pick one
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>>386917748
If robots can't be waifus, and Aigis is a robot, how is she waifubait? You are contradicting yourself.
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>>386904872
>he doesn't know about tactics
you deserved all of those marin karins
>>
but i do think if you think haru is best girl you need to be dropped from somewhere high.
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>>386918045
Do you see what this thread has devolved into?
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>>386918056
Then I guess she's just waifubait
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>>386916013
that's a pretty good list but there's room for improvement.
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>>386918045
The OP wasn't but the thread devolved into it
See>>386904164
>>386908454
>>386913010
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>>386918164
Yes, and not a single post in the thread more meaningless than 'i like x!'
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>>386918186
I see no improvement here, only trash taste
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>>386918294
are you that fuck who hates naoto
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>>386918186
> teddy
> sss
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>>386918349
Who?
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>>386918473
she's perfect.
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>>386918504
I DROPKICK YOU YOU EMOTIONAL TORMENTED FUCK STAIN
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>>386918186
>no hisano
opinion literally discarded. you know nothing.
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>>386905069
What the fuck is going on in this picture
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>>386917256
holy shit dude i agree with this completely

i'm glad i'm not the only one who likes Ai as a character
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>you will never smell Makoto's soiled panties after she tried holding it all day because she's embarrassed going in public restrooms and then finally had an accident after going home with you and suffering the laxative effects of coffee and curry emptying her dignity and bowels into her black panties while you help to clean her up
Why live?
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>>386918039
I wanna die. Where has FuukaBro gone
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>>386918909
get. just get
>>
P5 improves on P4 in almost every conceivable way except MAYBE the soundtrack, depending on your tastes. Gameplay and narrative wise, it's observably inferior to its successor. Chie is still cute though.
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>>386917256
chie does not deserve to stand on the same pedestal as ai
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>>386919042
>worshipping the school's slut
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>>386919119
shes not a slut, shes just like that so people would like her. Did you do her social link?
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>>386916747
Self insert fag detected.
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>>386919119
>slut
>holds everything to such high standards that everyone hates her
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>>386918784
Ai is underrated. She's better than most of the girls on your team
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>>386918784
Ai was the sleeper best girl of P4. Too bad she isn't in the main party or else I would waifu her every playthrough. That's the only reason why I waifu Chie, she's my second pick
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>>386919206
>goes on dates with a guy she doesn't really like
>tricks him into a relationship
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>>386919039
P5 has the worst narrative of any persona game, you're insane. It has the absolutely best intro and the waste of all of that potential on shitty villians, a laughablely bad rival, and even more abrupt "it was an evil god all along!" than p4. p5onlis need to leave
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>>386919367
ALL OF THE PERSONA GAMES END WITH IT WAS AN EVIL GOD ALL ALONG.
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>>386914240
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>>386919342
>Being a beta male and allowing her to trick you into a relationship
Stand your ground
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>>386919239
A fellow Anon with very good taste. Nice to see that I'm not the only one who likes Ai.
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>>386919342
>Being so easy that as soon as you become good friends you allow her to do that to you

You're bad a relationships
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>>386919436
Not based Persona 1 (except in Snow Queen route).
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>>386916069
You are me
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>>386919039
I like P5 better but P4 arguably has better atmosphere and character interactions as well.
>>
>>386913010
What kind of gun is she holding?
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>>386919683
pretty sure she uses a revolver
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>>386919456
>>386919573
Just stating what Ai does during the game., no need to get so defensive and go full meme arrow on me.
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btw i love Naoto and persona 5 but how the fuck does naoto get a real gun but the kids characters from p5 have to use models
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>>386919830
those tits can get her anything she wishes
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>>386919830
Cause she's a cop and the P5 gang aren't cops
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>>386919367
Son, Persona 4's story is just a long-ass episode of Scooby Doo with a villain who's identity was probably pulled out of a hat at the end of production. P5's narrative isn't The Great Gatsby, but it does does a much better job of delving into the philosophy and moral ambiguity of what the heroes are accomplishing, as well as commentating on Japanese society in general.
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>>386919918
>>386919908
the cop one makes sense but i like imagine Naoto hiding armor and extra weapons in her breasts
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>>386919830
she's from a famous detective family.
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>>386904436
I liked that Yuzu was so retarded that choosing to listen to her plan literally lead to the destruction of the world.
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>>386919974
She keeps her gun's bullets in there. Like that shitty anime which name escapes me.
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>>386919765
Yeah but the name specifically
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>Really liked 5 my first time through
>Really fucking despise 5 in New Game Plus
Back to 3 I go for my persona fix
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>>386920142
>going back to Tartarus
Are you a masochist mister?
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>>386920005
Her OC ending isn't as bad as the original.
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>>386920142
P4 was the only game I was able to replay and that was mainly because it was on the Vita, so I can play it while laying in bed while watching tv.
P3 doesn't have a skip feature, so its a slug fest, and P5 is on the PS4 and and I'm not updating my Vita just for remote play.
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>>386919830
Nepotism
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>>386920324
>P3 doesn't have a skip feature
emulator fast forward button
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>>386920280
I'd take the Tarturus music loop rather than Mementos and it's loop, spaceport, and the exact same thing being discussed within a ten minute cutscene for the 4th time.
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>>386920438
not fucking true
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>>386919943
>with a villain who's identity was probably pulled out of a hat at the end of production

That's actually sort of what happened considering the real culprit was initially Dojima while Adachi was supposed to be the red herring
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>>386920475
>my personal opinion
>not true
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>>386920491
i like dojima being a good dad rather than a sociopathic muderer
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>>386920491
Dojima was never the killer, they said they redesigned him because his dark design made people wrongly think he was which would cause problems later when you have to guess shit.
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>>386920491
I thought the Dojima thing was just a meme
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>>386920515
yep, just like the thread implicates
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Would you guys be okay if the next Persona game featured college students instead of high school students?

Seems like a good change of pace
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>>386920438
>taking a 200+ floor log of a dungeon over some minor inconveniences
what
Were you somewhat young when you first played P3?
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>>386920612
People who say this usually don't understand why nips fetishize highschool so much,
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>>386905861
>Lame Characters
No, they were great. And they had the patented Friendship Dynamic (R) (TM) that makes Persona 4 such a beloved game.

>Lame plot
It was a minimalist plot, yeah, but it was also a focused one. It did all the right things at the right time. If your heart wasn't breaking for every single character after the Heaven dungeon then I don't know what to tell you.

>final boss comes outta left field
Can't argue there. The ending was definitely the weakest part of the game.

>Lame antagonist
I thought Adachi was pretty cool.

>Casual as fuck gameplay compared to 3
Sure, it was easier than 3.

More importantly than any of that, all of these criticisms apply even moreso to 5. Lame characters, that's really subjective. Lame plot, 5's plot is basically "lol let's be thieves because it's fun", and then nothing happens for 70 hours until you have to fight god. Final boss comes outta left field, 5 has this problem even more than 4. Fighting god has nothing to do with thievery or social justice, ostensibly the two things the game was about. Lame antagonist, I certainly can't see how Adachi was any more lame than Akechi. Casual gameplay, 5 is the easiest Persona game yet, I beat most of the bosses on my first try.

So I don't see how you can use any of these criteria to put 5 above 4.
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>>386920685
because they're pedophiles who love exploiting innocence?
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>>386920612
No because college students would just drop out of college to focus on the problem at hand.
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>>386920612
>Persona 6 is set in college
>you never have any time for social links because you're too busy studying
sounds like it would suck
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Ooohhhh baby i love your wayyyyy
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>>386920746
No, because apparently life as an adult nip is the most depressing thing ever
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>>386920685
No I understand it, but every fucking anime or game takes place in high school

with college students or even adults, there can be focus on new issues young adults face instead of pseudo coming of age

>>386920783
not japanese students

>>386920802
you are on to something there for sure
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>>386920612
that sounds bad, i mean if everyones a legal adult then romancing milfs will become redundant
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>>386920842
Yea, Japanese students, and anyone with an ounce of common sense.
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>>386920640
Unless you're playing on a vanilla save and not NG+ in P3 Tarturus shouldn't be a fucking problem in the slightest, compared to 5 and 4 which makes you do everything again since you get to keep your levels.

But to answer your actual question I played P4 for the first time when P5 came out in Japan since there were so many threads about it on /v/ and P3 shortly after, so no
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>>386920821
well yeah but they also love highschool pussy

and thats fine I guess, just leave the old men out of your porn, japs. jesus christ
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>>386920842
just play mainline or something if you're sick of highschool settings.
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>>386920941
Fuuka is not for lewd! delete this!
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>want to play persona 3 again
>get to the name input screen
>can't decide between using minato or makoto
>quit

>want to play persona 4 again
>get to the name input screen
>can't decide between using souji or yu
>quit

every fucking time
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>>386920324
>P3 doesn't have a skip feature
FES has fast forward anon.
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post collar chad or more naoto if you want
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>>386920904
>every slink is used goods
This kills the persona franchise.
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>>386920957
okay, but why not do something else other than high school?
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>>386920978
I don't even like Fuuka like that
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>>386920563
It's a rumor that came from the official artbook where they said his initial design was changed because he looked like “someone who would be chased by the police rather than a member of the police”

The part about changing adachi from a red herring to the killer mid-production is true though.
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>>386920978
and fuuka is borderline flat.
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>>386921106
Ah, ok. Thanks
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>>386920941
Going to be honest here, why do people like Fuuka? she has terrible voice acting and her personality doesnt really stand out

I seriously dont remember her motivation in the game
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>>386920984
>get to the input screen
>put my name
>every character sucks my dick
>don't waste time on unimportant stuff

Feels good.
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>>386921052
because persona was made specifically to have a highschool setting. it was a marketing thing to make smt more appealing to a younger audience.
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>>386920802
I feel like you would actually have more time to dungeon crawl in college than in high school
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>>386921080
Not for lewd!

>>386921120
Don't talk about Fuuka's body so salaciously
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>>386920984
Yuki Makoto and Yu Narukami. Other names for them are as irrelevant as FeMC's existence.
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>>386921183
Alright that's fair
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>>386921179
It's a meme that fuuka autist started.
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>>386921179
The only person I know that likes Fuuka is Fuukafag. I'd tell you why but he's probably going to explain it himself anyway
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>>386921009
So what will the game be about. Living in a shitty apart, paying monthly bills and taxes, and studying, while occasionally sociallizing on the weekends. And if your not too busy MAYBE fight shadows to save the world. While having the crushing weight of student loans follow you everywhere you go.
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>>386921203
you never been to college
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>>386921106
>>386921154
Wasn't it originally supposed to be Yukiko or something to that extend? That'd be a lot more interesting seeing as originally there's a subplot about her being under suspicion when she disapears
>>386921179
She wants to help the people she's close to, which is why she sticks around her bitch friend during the begining despite her being a bitch and joins SEES without much of a struggle.

So in escence not nearly as compelling a reason to fight as everyone else, there's a reason why her Persona evolution has nothing to do with the game's main plot while everyone else's does.
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>>386908516
P4 is basically the same dungeon design they just have more unique reskins. P5 has completely different dungeons. I mean a dungeon is a dungeon so there's similarities no matter what, but they're much more varied. The VN part of the game is definitely what makes it stand out, not the combat.
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>>386921205
IS THAT YOU FUUKA BRO??? ITS BEEN SO LONG
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>>386921179
I don't like Fuuka I love her
I'm not someone who lets something so small as voice affect my opinion of a character, I judge them based on their actions and personality.
> doesnt really stand out
That's what happens when you put a normal girl like her near a robot, a multi millionaire and someone who is loud and brash.

Fuuka isn't someone that calls attention upon herself, she doesn't look for recognition for her actions, and so people tend to forget her efforts or accomplishments and take them for granted.

If you take the time to know her you'll see a very kind and purehearted girl who wants nothing but everyone's happiness and well-being, and makes all the effort necessary to make it possible.
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>>386921382
That's a meme, the only thing we really know is that the killer was changed and that adachi was originally just a red-herring. The original killer would have made the story "too dark" or something like that. If you search around the interview is in english
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>>386921334
I've had semesters where I was done with all my classes by noon. Plus actual attendance is pretty lax for most lectures so if you needed to finish a dungeon that day you could just skip.
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>>386921382
not really a subplot, it lasts all of 2 weeks
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>>386921382
>>386921516
alright, you actually made a pretty decent case, I buy it
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>>386921576
I once had to eat while taking a shower.
Fuck college.
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>>386921516
i think haru is basically fuuka except rich
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>>386921576
Weird college, I had papers and group projects every damn day and could not afford to miss class because of valuable information that would be on the exam
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>>386921382
>her Persona evolution has nothing to do with the game's main plot while everyone else's does.
what do you mean?
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>>386921516
Semi related, but seeing as you seem to know about Fuuka I'll ask you.
What was Fuuka's stance in The Answer again? I only recall her being dumped on best girl and Aigis because she's not a fighter.
Did she love Door too?
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>>386921689
Fuuka didn't want to kill herself she just let herself get kidnapped because she's a pushover.
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>>386921576
>liberal arts
>>386921708
>STEM
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>>386921565
Look at Chie's headlights.
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>>386921565
>would have made the story too dark
fuck persona 4, if anything it could stand to be darker. Nanako """dying""" was the closest the game got me towards feeling like there was anything at stake but she comes back minutes later
>>386921721
She evolves hers by saying good bye to a friend that wasn't relevant to the main story since her introducion, while every other character's evolution is linked to a character who died during the games plot besides Yukari, sorta.
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>>386921860
Aigis didn't have anyone die for her
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>>386921891
In a way she herself sorta died for a while, and it happened because she didn't want her friends to be aware that they were all gonna die
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>girl you just met
>dead
>Mitsuo
>dead
>king moron
>dead
>learn that king moron was sleeping with one of his students
P4 was too happy
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>>386921860
>Nanako """dying""" was the closest the game got me towards feeling like there was anything at stake but she comes back minutes later
They should've written it as 'Nanako goes into a serious coma and will probably die' before the Namatame confrontation happens. Having her literally die and come back to life comes across as very cheap melodrama.
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>>386922010
no matter how cute yukari looks, i think shes a dick for accusing mitsuru of whatever shes accusing her of
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>>386922010
>that pose at the end
Is that what I think that is...?
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>>386922107
That's the point of her arc with Mitsuru, she learns not to hate her for no reason other than something that was out of both of their control
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>>386921689
You'd be wrong, as Fuuka and Haru have nothing in common except being polite.

>>386921749
Fuuka was against everyone fighting each other, but was encouraged by Akihiko to help Aigis, as she was the one that had the most to lose in the fight.

Fuuka was hesitant, but ended up helping Aigis, albeit begrudgingly

Fuuka never shows any romantic feelings for the MC, so I will say no.
The way she refers to him is more of a respectful way more than how you refer to a lost loved one.

>>386921750
What?
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>>386921860
I think the Nanako death was cheap, I don't think they should have killed her. Should have just left her in the coma, or at the very least kill someone else, but that would take some serious re-writing. Maybe kanji's mom or something
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>>386922057
mitsuo dead? and was king moron sleeping with a student? like, consensually? with king moron?
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>>386920695
>they had the patented Friendship Dynamic (R) (TM) that makes Persona 4 such a beloved game.
And it felt forced as hell. The P3 weren't even friends for the better half of the game, and that's what made them so great. It felt like the characters were learn to accept each other throughout the game. P5 was like P4, but at least they felt genuine. The P4 cast felt like they were only there to suck your cock.

>It was a minimalist plot, yeah, but it was also a focused one.
And it felt like it when on for way too long. P3 and P5 felt like you were building up to something big, but P4 feels like from the beginning to the big revel, it hasn't really lead into something.

>If your heart wasn't breaking for every single character after the Heaven dungeon then I don't know what to tell you.
Sure it was sad, but it was obvious as hell that they weren't going to kill off Nanako, and that's one of the biggest problems of P4, it doesn't take any real risks. Characters die left and right in P3 and P5 starts with an innocent girl getting implied raped. Those indicate that they weren't gonna be little ice cream socials. Even with a girl dying at the beginning of P4, it left like it peaked because no one else during the remainder of the game suffer from any kind of real lost.

>Adachi was pretty cool.
I personally didn't like him, though he was a whiny child that was a little bitch. It's bugs me too since they try their hardest to make you feel bad for him, even though he murdered 2 people

> Final boss comes outta left field, 5 has this problem even more than 4. Fighting god has nothing to do with thievery or social justice, ostensibly the two things the game was about
Igor hints at this throughout the entire that everything you're doing is leading up into something big.

> Lame antagonist, I certainly can't see how Adachi was any more lame than Akechi
Why does everyone forget about Shido?

The only real casual thing P5 does is give XP to people not in the party.
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>>386922174
>What?
when she got locked in the school.
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Asking here I guess.

In SMT what is the difference between force and physical?
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>>386921891
Well, not at that point she didn't.
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I just beat P5, favourite game I've played

How should I play P3 and P4?

P3P has more control but worse visuals
P4G has extra stuff but I could just emulate
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>>386922198
she didn't die what is this
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>>386914818
I waifu'd her on my first playthrough. Hearing her say "I love you" gave me a boner. Looking back on it, she's not that special though. Rise is my favorite P4 girl. Sorry I haven't evolved enough to prefer Naoto yet.
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>>386922236
Force is generally sorta-kinda wind element.
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>>386922243
P4 Golden on Vita and P3 FES on an emulator with the undub patch
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>>386922174
Ah alright, thanks Fuuka Anon. I was a little annoyed that I couldn't remember, but I wasn't gonna play The Answer again.
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>>386922236
i thought force was the name for the garu skills?
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>>386922280
have you not played golden?
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>>386922243
Emulate FES and play P4G. P3P doesn't just have worse visuals, it strips it all out, imagine playing Persona 5 but the 3d world was taken out and conversations were just the textboxes and sprite with a background, no animation or anything because that is what p3p is like.
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>>386922368
no
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>>386922309
*devolved
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>>386922198
Nanoko is the best character to kill off since every character has a strong connection to her, it either should have stayed permanent or never happened at all.
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never more is the best song from persona 4 hands down

>>386922436
ill spit on you
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>>386921721
Everyone's Persona evolution involved them finding a new reason for living after losing their original one. Yukari's Persona evolves after finding out her dad was actually a good guy and her new purpose becomes fulfilling her dad's wish of making things right. Mitsuru's Persona evolves when her new purpose becomes to avenge her father. Akihiko's Persona evolves after he learns that he can't change the past and instead now keeps moving forward to control his future. Ken's Persona evolves after his new purpose becomes making Shinji's death not in vain. Aigis' Persona evolves when her purpose becomes not to protect other because that's what she was programmed to do but because that's what she herself wants. Junpei is an exception but he goes through more less the same pattern
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>>386922351
>>386922386

Cool thanks, what sorta stuff does P4G add? I know it adds an epilogue and an extra social link, anything else worth mentioning? Also will losing control of party members in P3FES piss me off? I've heard incredibly mixed things about the AI
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>>386922221
I don't see how that has to do with the Fuuka and Haru comparison
And you're still wrong, Fuuka was physically pushed and moved into the gym's cleaning close, she didn't let herself be kidnapped.

>>386922358
No problem.
I personally don't like the answer and how they handle Fuuka, they don't even give her a flashback like the rest of the team
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>>386922243
>P4G
no, play the original p4. the bosses were nerfed in golden and marie is an awful character
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>>386922475
>Should of killed off the most likeable character in the game because its not edgy enough
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>>386922206
I mean, yeah, Igor says that the "end of all things" is coming at the beginning of P5, but then you might as well say that Yu's meeting with Izanami in the fog (and the gas station) at the beginning of P4 meant that P4's final boss didn't come out of nowhere. In my view, they both came out of nowhere, in that they were both thematically disconnected from what came before and the parties didn't actually have to go seek out the final boss or anything, it just gets dropped into their laps.

Also, I don't think you have to break it down into what "casual features" P5 has or doesn't. The game is just straight up easy (on normal mode, anyway). You hardly ever die and you don't have to grind at all until maybe the last boss.
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>>386922057
>>386922204
Mitsuo gets rearrested after you rescue him, but he doesn't die (unless someone shanked him in prison and they never mentioned it).
I don't remember anything about King Moron sleeping with anyone. At best, a student saw him flicking through an idol magazine once.
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>>386922280
>>386922368
>>386922426
>golden
what? her dying wasn't exclusive to golden, it was in the original too. you're both retarded
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Vote Fuuka Bro prime minister of Japan 2020
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>>386922525
memories of you hit me way harder than never more.
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>>386922593
Hey, it worked for P3.
Making every single character but the silent character unlikable was a pretty poor decision.
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>>386922663
it wasn't permanent
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>>386922593
what's the point of killing off a character to raise tension if they have barely any connection to the main cast? That's the problem with P4's murder mystery in general, no one who dies has any major link to the majority of the party, and if it's to protect Inaba then half the cast doesn't even care about the place at the point the game starts at
>>386922726
Memories of You hits harder once you know the lyrics but the combo of the main menu theme playing then transitioning into Never More always hits me a bit harder, and that's coming for a P3fag.
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>>386922759
It is in the bad ending.
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>>386922572
Golden adds two extra social links, an epilogue, more than a month more on the calendar, lots of new story events, costumes, better gameplay balancing. FES is easy to get used to, there are tactics options so you can change the priorities of the AI so they do things like healing, targeting weaknesses, attacking, etc.
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>>386922576

Really? I could watch the epilogue too I guess, plus it's free this way
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>>386922838
Its a little easier but there are difficulty options if that bothers you, golden is almost unanimously agreed to better, don't let one individual autist make you play a worse game. If difficulty is truly what matters than go play a real megaten game like nocturne.
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>>386922823
that's different though, everyone dies in the bad ending because of the fog so it doesnt matter
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>>386922574
>they don't even give her a flashback like the rest of the team
Huh, yeah. That's a little strange. Would've wanted to see little Fuuka.

I liked The Answer myself. It was a bit of a chore in the middle of it, but it gave us Metis and Darkness so it evens out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xO_IX50ruQ
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>>386922838
IIRC, the only thing that's harder in Golden is the Margaret fight, since she gets two actions per turn like Liz and the P5 bosses. On the other hand, skill cards make it piss easy to make a Yoshitsune/Trumpeter that's immune to everything except Almighty, so the entire fight is literally Power Charge > Heat Riser > Debilitate > Hassou Tobi until she dies.
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>>386922558
Well, Fuuka's resolution IS about her finding a new reason.
Before her resolution Fuuka just wanted to please everyone and make people happy, but she never questioned why, she just did it blindly to feel accepted.
Then Fuuka's resolution arrives, Natsuki asks her what SHE wants for herself.
Fuuka realizes she never thought about what she wanted, and so she reflects on her actions, her mindset and her values.

This is also shown on her persona's change.
Fuuka's original Persona is Lucia, a patron saint of the blind, and she appears to have her eyes bandaged, this indicates Fuuka's own blindness to her own desires and aspirations.

Then Lucia gives place to Juno, a goddess that is known for watching over others and protecting them. Hey eyes are no longer covered up and she has multiple ones, indicating Fuuka's newly acquired sight
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>>386916013
>Chihiro not in S+ tier
>Haru not in S+ tier
>not wanting to make Haru your waifu and run a quaint little coffee shop with her
You should probably just kill yourself senpai. It's cool that you put Rise in S+ tier though. She gets too much hate.
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>>386922932
>>386922838

>golden is almost unanimously agreed to better
this is completely false
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>>386922821
It's not about the cast , nu about the player.
P3 killed off Shinjiro and Chidori, both characters had connections to important characters, but the game gave you(you) no reason to give a single fuck about their deaths.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOU2Ht7E97A
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>>386923037
Golden adds what too many QOLs to play the older version, the only reason you should play the ps2 version is if you're a poorfag
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>>386922932
>>386922952
>>386923037

I'm just gonna dip my toes by emulating the PS2 version and if I like it I'll get the vita version, thanks for the input
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>>386922821
>Memories of You hits harder once you know the lyrics but the combo of the main menu theme playing then transitioning into Never More always hits me a bit harder, and that's coming for a P3fag.
P4's happy rainbows everything is perfect ending didn't really do it for me like P3 did. It was the perfect bittersweet ending.
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>>386922989
>>>386922989
>As if Haru is interesting enough to deserve S+ tier
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>>386923114

Really? I thought it was extra content rather than QOL changes? Could you give a few examples?
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>>386922974
here are Fuuka's personas for comparison

>>386922945
>Would've loved o see little Fuuka
That would have been adorable.
The answer isn't as bad as people make it out to be but it's not something you'll want to play more than once.
I liked how Metis completed the team's physical balance, being the third blunt user and all.
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>>386923139
I'm just talking musically, P4's melodramatic ending sucks dick
>>386923094
Shinjiro was important to all of the main cast and Chidori was more about how it personally effected Junpei
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>>386923229
>I'm just talking musically,
I'm talking the full package, playing the game to the end and then hearing the music.
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>>386898687
none of them are best, 3 for girls, 4 for story, 5 for gameplay and girls, innocent sin for nostalgia
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>>386917256
>ai and elizabeth as S+
I dont care how shitty the rest of your list is; you are a man of culture.
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>>386923215
Its both, one example is skill inheritance, you know how in persona 5 you can choose what skills you give to personas when you fuse them, in original persona 4 it is basically random, p4g is more like p5 where you can choose.
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>>386923215
>choose which skills are inherited when fusing
>scene skipper
>rebalanced characters
>new difficulty modes and customizeable difficulty for NG+
There's probably more that im forgetting, but those changes plus all of the new content makes Golden a no brainer
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I just realized! If the people complaining about Persona 4's ending being to "happy", they can just get the bad ending and watch as a Nanako and the rest of the world is consumed and killed by the fog. Your once precious friends now lost forever in a ghoulish yellow fog, along with the rest of human society. Maybe that'll be dark enough probably not though, if I know the P3fags
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>>386923215
Just read this. http://megamitensei.wikia.com/wiki/Persona_4_Golden
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>>386923476
that's not a real ending because it just bumps you back to the last day before everyone dies.
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>>386923229
Shinjiro was some guy that just joined the party and died in a very anticlimactic way.
Chidori was this chick that Junpein was seeing and I knew nothing about.

I gave 0 fucks about their deaths and was actually happy to see my party member's persona evolve.
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>>386923583
after that point, stop playing the game.
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>>386923227
>Goes from having no eyes to a ridiculous amount of them.
Love that.

People should all play the answer, it's really good. Metis is great battle wise too, she's an all round powerhouse and a likeable character to boot.

>>386923476
P3's ending is a happy ending though anon. Bittersweet for sure, but still happy.
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>>386922974
The difference is that she doesn't lose her purpose in life like the others. Yukari's purpose was finding out what happened to her father and after she's tricked into thinking he's the bad guy that started the Dark Hour she loses that purpose. Junpei's purpose was to seek glory by being the best but once the protagonist shows up and proves to be better than him in every way without even trying he loses that purpose. Mitsuru's purpose was trying to protect her father by fixing a mistake her family made in the past but once he dies she loses that purpose. Akihiko trains to try and make up for not being strong in the past but once Shinji dies he realizes that trying to change the past leads to nothing and loses his purpose. Ken's purpose was to avenge his mother but once he realizes that Shinji was already going to die anyways with or without his influence he loses his purpose.
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>>386919367
Glad to see someone who gets it. Persona 5 is Wasted Potential: The Game. They throw 20 great story ideas at you and do literally nothing with any of them.
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>It is another lets compare all Nu-Persona stories together despite all 3 of them telling vastly different stories with each MC embodying different Jungian archetype
The only debatable part of their stories is how it is being told. P5 does that best with Sae's interrogation
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>>386923715
P3's ending felt satisfying because of all the things that happened during the game. I never really felt like there was anything at stake in P4 except Nanako and they screwed that up.
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>>386923979
>I never really felt like there was anything at stake
I think that's where P4's SoL/comfy nature works against it. The camping trip and the school festival develop the characters (the former far more than the later), but they add sweet eff all to the main story.
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>>386923979
Just like every other jrpg ever.
That's really not praise worthy.
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>>386919943
>P5 delving into the philosophy and moral ambiguity of what the heroes are accomplishing
"Hey guys, are we doing the right thing?"
"Yes, we are!"
Yeah, lots of moral ambiguity there.

>commentating on Japanese society in general
"Hey guys, did you know that Japan's legal system has a 99.9% conviction rate? Ok, time to move on with the dungeon now."
Really clever and incisive commentary there.

If I wrote Persona 5's script then I would be embarrassed. It hits you over the head with its morals like a ton of bricks.
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>>386924148
Yeah P5 kinda drops the ball hard after Kamoshida's dungeon. The finale with Yaldabaoth was pretty good though, admittedly.
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its been a nice thread here's one more for the road
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>>386924229
at least someone cares
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>>386923730
I'd argue Fuuka does also lose her purpose, if to a smaller extent.
Natsuki leaving does force Fuuka to realize there are things she can't control, she wanted to be close to Natsuki but was forced apart by things outside her control
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>>386924106
P3 isn't like every other jrpg ever. The whole game is pretty miserable and your "friends" spend most of the game being really cold and passive-aggressive towards each other.
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>>386924229
It was nice, I got to talk about Fuuka's
Wish more threads were like that.
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this thread is being molested by p3fags. should have stopped changing after it became a naoto appreciation thread
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>>386924378
Fuuka's character
I'm sleepy
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Why won't Fuuka Bro except my love and devotion to his cause....
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>>386923880
P5 would have been better if the sae interrogation didn't happen, or the at the very least didn't spoil every villain. Should have had her interject after you decided on a target
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>>386924507
I don't have a cause anon, I just like talking about Fuuka
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>>386923979
I was just saying that P3's ending is not that much of a bad ending, I wasn't comparing it to 4.
I thought he was wrong for saying it's "edgy," the only real evidence you'd have are Evoker's and the embodiment of death plot points.
The latter of which was handled nicely, and the former being largely irrelevant.
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>>386924378
Always good seeing you fuukafriend
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>>386924660
Y-You too
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someone should end the thread with one of the persona ending themes.
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>>386908193
god damn what was going on with the animation of this shit
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>>386915718
This I love seeing fuukabro I wish I could find happiness
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>>386925240
Anon, this is the anime that had two Chies in one scene.
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>>386925240
A-1 Pictures
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>>386925113
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foCmzH-vPqM
You lived, Rei.
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>>386925295
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBjkG5CU9Pg
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOjsyTetnV0
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>>386917256
>futaba c
>aigis in the trash
>rape bait and yukari not in the trash
>Hifumi not in her own S++ tier
This is low effort even for a bait chart
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>>386917670
She's just so boring compared to every other girl, she needed to have a more fleshed out personality
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>>386925531

love and praise the kindly fuuka bro
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>>386925571
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eu8VzEFeILE
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>>386925678
I don't think this is a good idea
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>>386925734
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7EEtoJrjAw
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>>386925781
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bw85DBGv-p8
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>>386925807
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMvlAul2TtU
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>>386925849
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tane0rN6lak
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>>386923454
>>386923470
>>386923562

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