How are you guys enjoying the beta?

>>386896942
>bothering with anything nu-anet makes

>>386896942
yeah its pretty good, mounts are fun.

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>>386896942
I played it for about 20 minutes. There wasn't that much to do so i just logged off. But next weekend I'm sure I'll play a lot more.

>>386897714
I wasn't very hyped for mounts at first but after trying them out I'm really looking forward to using them. I just hope they find a way to get mounts into wvw though.

>>386896942
I have the feeling that expansion is too small. They gave us half of location and it felt barren. Comparing to hot it feels underwhelming, maybe because we have mounts.

>>386897986
Yeah I agree. And they aren't shipping any new fractals or raids at the release of the expansion. So I'm scared that we will run out of content after we're done with the story and have played the new maps for a few hours.

>>386896942
It's alright;mounts control great.They should've included the new specs as well.

>>386896942
I only care about the specializations, there isn';t really anything there for me to like.

I don't get how mounts are special to anyone at all.

>>386898915
It's nice to travel around without spamming swiffness or use a signet/trait to get extra movement speed.

>>386897986
Judging from the leaks it should have at least 2x more PvE content than HoT. I'm just happy Elona actually feels like Elona.

>>386898246
I might be nervous but given that they will have the next content drop around winter time with no drought like before, I'm happy for now and I'll be excited to see what sorts of Balthazar or Palawa Joko or even Kralkatorrik type raids they release


Honestly the PvE here looks really interesting for the open world. I know that sounds like a shill but the way I dice it, we have two things going for us:
First, the bounties means that groups to do World bosses will form more organically around the bounty board so there will be ready access for those trains

Second, the larger maps looks like you'll have less trains going for basic mobs but mounts means that you can quickly go to a player far away to help them with a particularly difficult set of enemies.

A third thing that's sort of unrelated but I just thought up is that we'll have way more enemy diversity than HoT or vanilla since there are four factions we're dealing with: Balth, Joko, Branded and wildlife

>>386898915
Elite specs look good this time around too
The mounts are like four different types of gliders, aka the most significant mastery from HoT. So it's a lot of different movement fun to be had
And they all have solid animation sets so they're fun to have around

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>>386896942
I liked the mount and really like ancient middle eastern aesthetics, but what's the point in playing the simple PVE stuff you're going to need to repeat? Stopped an hour in.

>>386899980
That's fine.
These weekends are partially meant to be a sales pitch to free players as well as to the people who picked up the last expansion and felt a bit stung

It's like Demos back in the day: try before you buy

The other purpose is as a stress test for the servers they set up for these maps.

>>386896942
>kill a god plot
>takes place in kourna and elona
So what, is this supposed to be a Nightfall clone?

uninstalled before even getting to the mount part, guess classic MMOs are not my thing anymore

>>386897953
>I wasn't very hyped for mounts at first but after trying them out I'm really looking forward to using them. I just hope they find a way to get mounts into wvw though.

I'm just hoping that another developer doing mounts with powers means WoW will finally make mounts less boring.

>>386896942
I want to make a joke about the writers being beta orbiters under the control of their SJW progresscultists but i lack the creativity, could someone help?

>>386899980
I'm new to gw2 as of two months ago, and these animations are making me hard. How do you enter the expansion preview? Because I have to leave for the weekend tomorrow.

>>386901697
Just get updated and there's 2 new character slots that are labeled for demo use

>>386901228
They actually more or less allude to that directly in the announcement for the expansion
>>386901460
Well Mounts in WoW are entirely just speed boosts. They aren't meant for puzzle solving or obstacles
Like movement systems in WoW are very Gamey where the mounts here have some weight to them

>>386901450
I'm really enjoying it, but I think that because I have played an MMO since burning crusade. Aside from lotro, I like playing it drunk and getting really immersed as a Tolkien nerd, but it seemed more like a one player game.

>>386901450
GW2 isn't really a classic MMO
I'm guessing you've already tried FFXIV and the other big ones on the market?

>>386901697
There are special demo slots in the character select screen. You can't miss them.

I played a bit when it first came out and then for a week again to prepare for this and I just can't grind through it. I guess MMOs are just not for me. It just makes me want to play through the campaigns in GW1 again.

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>that Temple of Kormir just off the edge of the map but still blocked off from the beta

LET ME INNNNNNN

>>386904550
You can get in on September 22nd after buying Path of Fire, anon!

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it's pretty fun. Mounts feel great to control, the map feels good to explore and the mount races are way too much fun
mount idles are cute

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>lush forests on the southern side of the map

>>386904945
I guess it'll give me something to do until TWWH2 comes out on the 28th

>>386896942
How long does it take to buy the expansions if you only use the ingame exchange?

>>386905463
you can't buy the expansions with in-game currency

>>386905697
If you bought the game at the release I'm pretty sure you can. Hell when HoT released you HAD to buy gems to get the expansion.

>>386905819
the expansions were always something you had to buy with real money. If you bought the highest tier you'd get 4000 gems with it though.
there's a bundle you can get for both HoT and PoF for $50 though

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How did we go from this...

>>386905994
>the expansions were always something you had to buy with real money
No it wasn't, HoT was a shitshow because owners of the game were forced to buy with gems and the tier of gems you had to get was above what the expansion costed for new players.

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>>386906164

To this?

>>386906263
a few years of graphical improvement

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>>386906263

Also I just want to say that night time Amnoon Oasis is C O M F Y

>>386905463
You can play the beta without buying the expansion. Just download the game client and make a beta/demo character. It will instantly level up to 80 and drop you in the exap zone.

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finding the new expansion preview fun so far

fuck this game

it's so garbage

how this could ever be the successor to guild wars goes beyond me it is nauseatingly worse in every single fucking way

stop playing this you absolute brainless faggots

>>386906254
You're probably thinking of living world. Expansions have always costed only real cash.

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>>386906585
why would i ever do that?

>>386906593
Nope, maybe they changed that after I left, which was just after HoT was announced, but back then owners had to buy with gems.

>>386906651
because fuck you it's terrible stop giving arenanet money for killing the best mmo ever

Reminder to ignore anyone that bitches about 'muh gw1 experience is ruined'

>>386906778
no? had the base game and just bought the expac in retail like a normal person

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I only played it until I realized I couldn't mess around with the specializations. I don't really want to play through the story multiple times, so getting far in the PvE would be out of the question.

>>386907092
That wasn't a question.

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>>386906796
you can't stop me, in fact I'm going to spend 40 bucks on the gem store RIGHT NOW to spite you ya sperg

>>386906931
you are living trash

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>>386896942
i like it. challenge is more laid back than heart of thorns.

could just be the first map but at least it doesnt have 3-4 groups of pocket raptors

>>386907336
do you enjoy ruining things for people

is your life really that empty

guild wars never hurt anyone

>>386906164
>>386906263
man you're telling me I played so much GW1... I cant understand GW2 being the way it is

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I'm really digging the fact that there's verticality that you can actually appreciate this time around, with no vines or trees blocking your view.

>>386906796
GW1 was already going to shit with EotN. Just be happy they stopped before entirely running the game to the ground.

>>386907496
yes

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looks pretty nice
shame cities drop fps to shit still

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>tfw don't really find any of the new elite specs more interesting than the HoT ones

I guess Deadeye could compliment P/P better than Daredevil, but eh...

>>386907336
>posts dumb reddit le no way fag face
>calls anybody else a sperg

you have no friends and your mother doesn't love you

>>386908083
only one im interested in is engineer's Holosmith. because scrapper is a gobshite pvp spec

i still don't know what elite specs are
looks like the same stuff i had pre-HoT just configured differently

>>386908273
they're a specific line of traits that unlock a weapon type, and are thematically based around a playstyle or build. You can only have one specialization at once, so someone wont be able to be both a Druid and Soulbeast.

>>386908478
how's that any different from the old trait selection?
are they just new passives?

>>386908161
Holosmith is also going to be a pvp spec, from the looks of it. A glass cannon one at that.

>>386908636
New passives, new weapon type accessible to the class, and a set of utility spells and elite that are only useable by that specialization.

>>386908273
Elite specs give classes access to a new weapon type, new skills that come with that weapon, plus utility skills and an elite. They usually offer something that a class isn't capable of, like the Druid being a mainly supportive, healing spec for the ranger whose vanilla specs are pretty much completely geared towards offense.

Basically, they are subclasses that you can choose. And now you really have to choose, as there is more than one and you can only choose one elite spec.

>>386908636
>new utility skills, new gimmick, can use weapons normally the class wouldn't use

>>386907442
Pocket raptors were always shit.
>Hey let's have our combat have limited targeting for skills.
>Then throw enemies that swarm in groups of 15.

>>386908784
I suspect ANet is wanting to nerf HoT specs a bit so the new ones will get a chance to shine.

Power Berserker is dead now. Condi Zerker is the new hotness for pve.

How many maps are playable in the demo? Just the one?

>>386909478
The one map and it's sectioned off so I'm certain you can't complete everything. Plus you can "unlock" two mount masteries.

I've also noticed that you can't get a head start on things in the expansion because no items transfer over to your bank. It's like a simulated copy of your account that's isolated there. Understandable considering they basically give you free gear to play around with for builds.

>>386909478
Yep. And the east side of it is blocked. Still a lot of content, probably the same as a Season 3 map.

>>386896942
I will buy this if it lets me join forces with Abaddon/Balthazar and kill Kormir

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>no new spec to compete with Ele/Druid for raid heal spec

>>386909272
>he can't kill raptors fast enough to kill a whole swarm before they kill him
Hah

How is the class balance in gw2 these days? What does each class typically play like/excel at now?

I quit playing shorty after HoT. Didn't come back for the raids or anything because the game just wasn't clicking with me, mostly due to the balance of classes and skills.

My favorite build to play was complete shite, but it was fun. Power necro with axe, stacking might a vuln for myself, yet still having shit dps. Had fun with it though. Is necro still a pointless, unwanted class? WvW still the same exact thing it has been for years?

>>386910329
Actually the the guardian spec might work. From what I've seen it looks like it will have access to a lot of quickness. So maybe you could play a healer quickness build?

>>386910734
Oh I can. They're just a bad enemy.
> Lay down any AE ability.
> Achieve results.

Done.

>>386912018
Yeah. It looks like as opposed to having "pure support" GW2 is going to make two condi/support hybrids that can go one way or the other.

Scourges for group shields, and Firebrands for quickness stacking.

>>386908083
The deadeye marking mechanic sounds like it would be disgusting with P/P. Just mark your target and unload on it. Damage just keeps climbing as you get the malice stacks.

Don't know if it will work like that in practice, but it sure sounds like that on paper.

>leave GW2 for about a year
>come back
>my Axe/Mace + Greatsword with Berserker trinkets build is completely useless now

Fuck this

Wish the mount was about 50% faster but more looking forward to trying the new elite stuff.

I havent played since launch and im trying out the expansion and getting blown out by the first encounters. Maybe I just dont know how gear works.

>>386915492
What class are you using? Weapons?

>>386915812
Revenant. Staff and sword. Not sure the answer matters. They should all be capable of it fine. I must be doing something wrong.

>>386911897
PvE-Meta: Zerker
PvP-Meta: Zerker
Fractals-Meta: 5-Man Zerk

Das 'bout it.

>>386914175
I wager it'll get faster through one of the masteries.
We already know the Raptor Mount's final mastery gives its own attack buff to all the mounts' attacks

>>386916665
Thats all changed now

>>386914086
It's not useless, there's just more build diversity in PvP and PvE. A lot of the new stuff in particular is designed to be handled by 2-3 people or one very skilled person

>>386916665
Please refrain from posting about stuff you dont know shit about

>>386916026
>I must be doing something wrong.
Yeah, you're using Revenant. Guardian and maybe Warrior are the best bets for actually tanking damage while not being squishy as fuck.

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Why are Charrs the best race?

reminder that there is reason why gw2g got nuked with bot spam.
leave with your disgusting faggoty.

>Path of Fire will be another dark souls for solo play just like the abyssmal HoT

Maybe it's just me but I feel like If I buy something I should be able to complete it A L O N E if I choose to, not force me to group up with other players to beat it because of fucking Artificial MUH CHALLENGE difficulty.

>>386920007
this has to be bait.
gw2 has the opposite problem since 2012. you can do everything (exception are tier4 fractals and raids) solo and there is little to no initiative to even form a group.

>>386919483
t. furfag

This game is CPU bound? Having a 1060 doesn't seem to help much.

>>386905175
that "what the fuck dude" gesture sold me the expansion.

>>386920687
All MMOs are.

>>386920687
Yes, it's very badly optimised.

>>386920687
yes. and even with a new 1000€ pc you will be lagging in wvw/big map events.
>the only thing anet took from gw1 was the shitty engine

>>386920921
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Anet still using dx9? At least other games moved up.

>>386916665
Zerker gets you kicked from the group

>>386921231
Not sure but generally has little to do with resource usage. DX11 is mostly a Windows window management upgrade where fullscreen/fullscreen windowed games need very little personal programming by the program's developer.

>>386919123
When they're not being shitted up with ERPers, They're a race of beast men that go beyond "Warrior race guys"

Theres a lot of depth to their society and they have an established point of reference from where they were in GW1.

What's the current get rich slowly scheme in this game these days and what do you think it will be after Path of Fire comes out?

>>386921727
Charr questlines were the only interesting questlines. Shame they had to fuck it all up with that end of the world fantasy bullshit with the Orders and Trahearne after level 30.
fuck

>>386910315
Who do you think is gonna be the new goddess of fire and war after balth kicks the bucket?
HINT: not you

>>386922268
Kormir

>>386922268
one of those hot yuri chicks

>>386922859
They make it so difficult to give a shit about Discount's Edge characters.

>>386922859
>>386922503
WRONG my friends the answer is actually BEST GIRL Rytlock

>>386923023
I mean, I care a lot more about them than actual Destiny's Edge. Really hate fucking meme fantasy groups.
Fuck I hate fantasy.

>>386922268
Some brand new Ebonian Elonian girl(male) we meet during PoF campaign and she becomes Traherane 2.0

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>>386923174
>they killed fucking Eir Stegalkin just so Braham could get some story
>Braham is easily the worst fucking character in the game

BRING EIR BACK GODDAMMIT

I could never get I to GW2
4+4 skills
No autismal mobbing and grinding and you had to do quests instead which meant less player interaction

>>386923391
I hate bland voices so I can't side with any Norn, be it Eir or the player character.

>>386923504
try elementalist and rotate your finishers with the fields you drop

>>386923504
well revenants have weapon swap and entire skill swap by swapping legends

How is new map? Is it like map from LS3 or more like HoT one?

These webms of the raptors and everything are making me want to get back into it. Is Heart of Thorns worth it?

so do people like anet now that colin is gone? i havent played in a while

>>386923527
I want to mob like 50 centaurs and kill them with an aoe spell, instead they stop chasing you once you pull them too far....

>>386906778
when more than 3 people say that you're retarded you should reconsider your answers.

the expansions were always bought with real cash, stop being a fool.

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>>386896942
It's more of the same shit
The only likable thing is the "weight" and inertia the mounts have
Still won't buy it at release since I'm not interested in any of the new specs

>>386923762
No because instead we got a bunch of Hambeef McTranny to replace him

>>386923686
They will probably stop with the HoT trademark multi-layered shitty maps so no, it was the most tedious thing to run through
Fuck HoT

I played from the first BWE to around when the Scarlet living story bullshit was going on. I'm back and I have no idea how to be gud any more. When I played it was just stack zerkers and everything else was worthless pretty much (atleast for pve and dungeons)

but now dungeons seem to be completely dead, and from what I hear condition builds are the new meta. What do I run on a Guardian/Revenant? Can I make a Berserkers/power build on a Reaper Necro be not shit? I have one character slot left and I can't decide between Engie/Necro/Ranger.

>>386923686
HoT is why people hate colin

>tons of shit mechanics that are abandoned really quickly cause nobody likes them

you see stuff like this all over gw2 but HoT is a monument to it

post cute fhds

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So underwater there's a POI labeled "Old Amnoon" which I assume is the old Amnoon Oasis from GW1, but comparing GW1's Amnoon Oasis to GW2 it looks nothing like this area. I'm not sure if I'm just looking in the wrong area in GW1 but I can't find anything that used to look like this in GW1

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>>386922163
I'd love a system of Current Events type quests that are particular to your storyline decisions.

Charr flavor quests that are specifically about the legion you were a part of.

Priory missions where you have to research your targets in the library before doing IndieJones raids

Vigil Missions where you have to determine which types of artillery and soldiers you want to bring with you as support

I'd settle for some bits of flavor dialogue in the Expansion instances that let me sneer down at the other races with Rytlock or let me choose how I'm addressed
>I'm sorry Outlander, we're not sure how to address you
>>Centurion
>>Magister
>>Commander

>>386924498
I'm just generally surprised at how feature oriented Colin was given how dense the base game of GW2 was.

>>386924475
Guardians still run zerker but all the builds require the dragonhunter spec, either run a symbol hammer build or a torch build
Revenant goes in the cuckshed
You can run power necro in dungeons, but viper is mandatory in raids
Engie if you hate yourself, Necro if you want to have fun, Ranger if you want to be a druidic healbitch

>>386910895
please tell me you're on low settings

>>386924931
>Engie if you hate yourself,

what's wrong with engie? And why does rev suck?

So I can run a Greatsword, berserker's Necro Reaper and be good/passable? I will eventually do raids but I can just do them on my guardian/mesmer, I just want to be as good as I can be with my chosen build.

>>386925040
low-medium

>>386925121
rev is just ok and the elite spec is just to be a boon bitch

renegade seems to be damage oriented so it might solve some issues

i wonder what they have planned for tomb of primeval kings, they better have something planned

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>>386925121
Engie is the worst class
Not only does it have bad numbers, it also is incredibly shitty to play
Hope you enjoy clicking those grenades if you want to play engineer
If you want to raid with necros you'll have to go scepter and go full condition damage, you will mostly swap to greatsword for pulling and putting the small AOE pool since you'll spend most of your time spreading dots with scepter / beating shit in reaper form
Revenants just plainly suck
It's one of those "jack of all trades / master of none" classes, they have a heal build but it sucks compared to a healdruid, and they have a shitty damage one only useful as a facet aurabot

>>386925121
engi seems interesting on the surface but then every optimal build ends up being spamming grenades

>>386919123
>tfw pic reminds you of squatfu and you feel sad

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>>386926129
kys

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>>386919123
They just are, brother

>nerf current builds
>make new elite specs meta
That's how you sell an expansion

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>renegade is the only spec without its traits posted

GIVE IT TO ME RIGHT NOW

>>386926278
t. ratsura cuck who can't handle femcharr as being the best wives

>>386926367
>make elite specs better at everything to sell 1st xpac
>don't fix this til next xpac
RIP tempest, you will not be missed.

>>386926440
>caring about yet another fire-bow spec on a heavy armor class

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>there are people
>in this very thread
>unironically believing Charrs are good for anything that doesn't involve using their skulls as Warrior helmets
Oh I'm laughing

How is this game for new players? I'm totally sick of FFXIV and this new expansion looks beautiful.

>>386927079
Is very new player/alt friendly.

>>386926760
asura mains are the reason hope 5.0 sucks

>>386927079
the games strongest point is exploring the zones and leveling normally t b h

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>>386927258
Shoo

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>>386919123
My 2nd and most played character is a Charr.

>>386896942
was supposed to play it with buds but then one decided not to play so we're not playing

basically the story of gw2 for me so far. don't think i'm missing much

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Why did Anet chose to make the charrs a meme race instead of the asura?
Was it just basic contrarianism "every meme race in every other MMO is the small race"?
I have more respect for ratmains than I will ever have for charr players

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>>386927367
Coo?

i am impressed with the raptor mount, now i am looking forward to the best mount, the giant bunny

Behold the scrapped mount.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yt-v29DAyN4

>>386928606
wrong:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yt-v29DAyN4
also imagine a cute spider mount with such >>386905175 animation quality.

>>386906796

GW1 was shit

>>386928941
>>386929012
fug i was too late :DDDD

they're gonna sell a shit load just on the quality of these mounts. im glad they got their priorities straight and didnt add jump-rope minigames or something

>>386896942
You're a beta.

>Rangers can't use their pets as mounts
>That Raptor has horrible clunky controls feels like i'm sitting on some jello
Not buying this shit

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>>386929012
Not the kind of spider mount i'd want...

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Just let this poor thing die already.
GW2 was like getting a new kitten, which quickly got old but remained lovable. Heart of Thorns was watching him die of old age.
This is like watching a vet trying to bring him back to life with a defibrillator over and over.

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>>386922268
>>386922503

>>386922031
magic warped bundle/winterberry farms.

unless something akin to multi lobbies happening, i can imagine S3 resource farming will only get more popular thanks to mounts.

>>386930824
>le clunky controls
I bet you hate sotc too, faggot

>>386931625
Thanks for the tip. I'm interested in coming back for a bit with the new expansion talk.

>>386931223
>getting a new kitten
>not doggos

thats how i know you are a nu male

>>386931838
Go back to your shitty bot infected general, you arenafanboy faggot.

>>386931965
dont make post my femcharr waifu

>>386932195
I hope you do.

>>386931898
>Liking dogs over cats
What an absolute shit taste. Only nu males enjoy the constant attention demanded from dogs

>>386932247
Your cat is not your friend, he doesnt care about you, you are just a source of food and comfort, you fucking cuck

>>386932247
Cats are for women
I bet you bought the new catmander tag too you faggot

Are rewards still shit for doing events and world bosses?

>>386932997
yes, and salvaging them is a chore, but the rewards from the demo map seems to fix this, looks like anet is learning something

>>386932247
At least I can give my dog the D.

>>386907336
>Spend the money anet gave you in the anet store
Super thrill

>>386933054
I remember before the whole mega server shit doing farming trains was actually kinda fun, because you seen everyday the same people and chatting between respawns was great. Also races who gets first to the event. Fuck I miss that. After they changed that it just became a fucking chore you do with some random fuckers.

> but the rewards from the demo map seems to fix this, looks like anet is learning something

What's changed?

>>386933194
>farming trains was actually kinda fun, because you seen everyday the same people and chatting between respawns was great
that still happens, Ive joined a guild of people I met farming lake doric

>What's changed?
From what I got doing events on the beta weekend you get an item that you salvage for raw craft items, like wood, minerals, etc, forget about that bunch of green sigils and runes thrash

mounts will be ruined, rest assured

theres a mega-thread on the forums complaining about motion sickness and the movement

>>386933373
>that still happens

No it doesn't unless they changed how the mega server works, because I didn't met people from my server at all anymore. Main reason I quit. That and wubwub becoming stale.

>>386933583
People are going crazy over the animations and how well the mounts feel. They might add an option to tone down the camera for it but why would they gut the whole thing when people are saying its fantastic?

>>386924498
>"This new featuer we are implementing may seem barren now, but rest assured, we will be able to use it as a framework for adding more things later".

I only played HoT for a few weeks. What exactly was abandoned from it?

>>386933618
If you wanna meet people from your server you should play wvw, as its the only game mode that the server you are on matters, and most wvw dedicated players dont touch pve

>>386933618
Unpopular opinion here but Server communities are an archaic concept and having mega servers/shards will always be superior as long as guilds/friends lists can go cross server. There is literally no reason nowadays to have 40 different servers for PvE when you can just have guilds and/or factions be the diving factor to spur competition within your community.

>>386934186
well considering modes like wvw are based on server pride, your argument is objectively wrong.

from a simple pve perspective? i kinda agree. the best system was with districts in gw1 imo.

>>386934380
I guess I kinda just meant in general with MMOs people getting upset that "servers" are going away.

Yeah WvWvW is based around servers but they could've just as easily based it around your order or had guild related factions.

Please don't tell me there are people on this board who play any of the following still:

-Guild Wars 2
-SWTOR
-Rift
-Wildstar
-Elder Scrolls Online

>>386934081
No shit.

>>386934186
For me server communities are very important for an mmorpg. Without it game feels hollow, fragmented and farming getting quickly boring.

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>>386932195
You could still go to >>>/vg/185835485 I guess, the 4chan guilds are still playing but they're just on discord and guild chat now, these iterations technically evolved out of the ones we had during the first gw2 betas.

>>386906796
Honestly I'm glad they're still hosting and dealing with GW1 issues, at least the game's events are automated. It's probably a cash cow til Anet itself goes under though. Is anyone from that /v/ group here?

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who "i just got back after 2+ years so i am not giving a shit about PoF weekend because i still have to finish all this heart of thorns stuff" here?

>>386934531
What does a server provide that guilds/factions don't in terms of community? Servers always get funneled into a few highly populated ones and then 80% dead servers.

>>386934519
ESO is a good MMO though.

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>>386905175

The beta made me uninstall the game. Anet is shit.

>>386934519
Yes, there is

>>386934583
you can just skip hot after you got gliding and go straight to the superior pof expansion.

>>386925121
Engi is great, don't listen.
5K hours on mine and all the other classes feel like half-classes. Holosmith is about to make it even better.

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>>386934621
c-cute!!

>>386934662
yeah i know, but it's not out yet, so i want to get in as much as i can, maybe even see the raid before PoF comes out

also i am a guardian, haven't put a single point into my elite spec yet, since i am not interested in longbows, should i just keep my hero points for the next elite spec so i can immediately get all traits in PoF?

>>386919123
Convince me to pick this game up again - What are the best looking armors/clothing for charrs? It was retarded shit when I played (some 5 years ago).

Pretty fun so far. Maximum comfy as opposed to Heart of Thorns which was aids.

>>386934831
>Charr

>>386934617
>What does a server provide that guilds/factions don't in terms of community?

Organic interactions with people you have seen before. It's small things in life that make people happy. While traing farming queensdale I always met this one fucking thief that was being usually faster than me. We always raced to the events and had good bantz with each other while waiting for boar to spawn. Or that one guy who always got pissed at people being rude in chat. Or that one guy who had like gazillion legendaries but still farmed with us just to show off his stuff.
Megaservers killed the game for me. Guilds just aren't enough and the game is not that fun.

>>386934896
So still shit I take it. Guess it still isn't worth my time.

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>only 3 acts

No Cantha. No Buy.

>>386934960
charr are the best race though?

>>386935016
They only had retarded looking dresses last I saw.

>tfw too beta to play a beta.

>>386934772
mmmh dragonhunter is fun and in most cases better than base guaridan(hence "elite" spec). longbow is of course garbage.
but considering you have over a month of time why not unlock it?
It took me on a new account around 2 or 3 hours. just do whatever you want to do and have an eye on the lfg for hero point trains. they usually can get you most points on the map(which is enough), sometimes also mastery- and waypoints.
bonus tip: look in your bank for the "waypoint to friend" item, add the commander of your train and join her when you need to.

>>386935015
next expansion hopefully. Unless Anet still is afraid of upsetting China, or was it Korea?

this game is boring.

>>386935202
yeah, no though

don't know what to say, i made a condition damage burn build and i feel like if i take one specialization out for dragonhunter it makes my overall burn build way weaker

>>386935202
before i forget, you should get at least basic gliding and bouncing mushroom mastery.
shouldnt take more than one verdant brink/auric basin map meta of experience points.

>>386935236
your moms ass is boring and i still finished it squiddo

>>386935404
i'm at 10 mastery so far, up to updraft gliding and almost done with leaning gliding

i also got first tier of legendary stuff and first of fractals, because i thought those might come in handy

I'm a retard in this game. Bought it a couple days ago and already at level 80 but it feels like i'm doing zero damage even though my weapons are orange or yellow with good stats. Still have no idea how to craft anything. How do I get better weapons? As of now I'm working on world completion.

>>386934909
>Guilds just aren't enough
they are though, all the things you've said Ive experienced doing metas on random maps with my guild

>>386935427
you came nice and hard inside my mom's big ass?

>>386935569
yeah, loved it

want to come over to dinner tonight son? we miss you

>>386935538
whats the gear stats? whats your class/specializations/weapon

>>386934831
Cultural and medium armors in general look nice on them, especially trenchcoats and the engi related stuff.

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>>386935635
>we miss you

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>>386935647
Playing Rager with pic related as weapons. Specializations are beastmastery, Skirmishing and Marksmanship though truly I don't know what's really good a build for those weapons.

>>386936024
I dont play ranger so I cant talk about the traits, check metabattle.com so see what is used on fractals, raids, pvp, etc and adapt it to your playstyle. Most rangers I see run great sword, longbow and axe/something else, I think for open world pve berserker or marauder would be the best.

>>386933583
they didn't "nerf" the floppy fish, they will not nerf this

>>386936024
check out https://metabattle.com/wiki/Raid for some builds. pve = raid/fractals i believe for general idea of builds if that is your focus!

>>386901776
>systems in WoW are very Gamey
cracked the problem on the head desu
WoW stopped being an aRPG and started being an Arpg

>>386936024
Condi builds aren't worth until you have the whole gear (Viper armor and trinkets) to support it.
You're better off going power until then.

>>386936024
You want all your gear to be lvl 80 as well. Exotics are best but rares can get you pretty much everywhere in pve.

You'll probably want to go berserk (power/precision/ferocity) with longbow/greatsword but you've got room in there for axe or sword.

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>>386934751
>all the other classes feel like half-classes
>Elementalist

BUILD TEMPLATES
FUCKIING
WHEN

>>386936402
Engi with cd on kits :^)

>>386936583
so you have to nail yourself into a kit build to get almost the same amount of actives an elementalist gets on any build

>>386932247
>>386931223
People like you shouldnt be allowed to post.

>feed a cat and bring it into my home instance
>the shitter attacks me
Why is this allowed?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VALkWEecic

Mounts are great and will fix alot of PvE builds on account of no longer needing to go out of your way to fuck up your build for mobility in getting around to do events.

>>386936894
yeah this

finally no more staff guardian with RETREAT

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>>386936993
>staff guardian
dont even make me think about it

>>386937108
is good for loot trains

>>386934380
you say that as though WvW succeeded as a concept and that the majority of servers aren't effectively merged to a bigger one anyway. at this point it's more accurately called BGvGW2

>>386936993
>>386937108
guardian here that just came back after 2 year break

i am using retreat but never switch from my mainhand mace and offhand torch desu

where are my anvil rock lads at

>>386937187
the big perk of retreat is the instant aegis

>>386937187
im talking about the staff auto attack range nerf, rip lootstick

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What do you think about the mastery point where you help out the chef by cooking? I can see people complaining about this but I enjoyed it

>>386934621
>mounts actually do shit instead of a generic idle stance like FFXIV

nice

>>386937298
>inb4 they shorten it or have him stand still because shitters can't do it
I actually asked someone if they had brain damage when they failed it

>Second engie elite spec that I have no interest in

Just kill me

>>386937368
>our chocobos don't even do the cute peck at the ground thing or lay down like the NPC birds

FUCK YOU LAZY SHITS, SE

>>386934621
Raptdoggo is fucking cute as fuck.
Who is in charge of mount animations, they're amazing.

>>386901460
>I'm just hoping that another developer doing mounts with powers means WoW will finally make mounts less boring.
>I'm just hoping that another developer doing mounts with powers
>I'm just hoping that a developer with powers
They have none. Literally less than 15000 people are playing GW2 right now. WoW has 3 million average still, shitting on the next highest by 30 fucking times. I don't know if you were being delusional for the shits and giggles or not though.

>>386937403
Sad thing is that they can do it but don't try. They rather complain about it. I hate casuals.

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>>386937565
>this post

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>>386937565

I honestly like the new "ammo" system, although I don't get how it differentiates itself from mesmer mantras.

>>386897741
>There wasn't that much to do so

I was going to ask if the game had improved since vanilla. Same old, same old I see.

>>386937565
>failing reading comprehensiom and missing the point
You're a dummy.

>>386937781
He means the Beta, its just a snippet from the first zone to show off Bounties/Mounts.

>>386896942
Looks fine but the skill system is so limited because it's weapon set based. I played a while ago but it was boring to run with just a 2-3 skills per weapon. Gw1 spoiled me I guess..

>>386937781
nigga it's a demo

>>386934621
fuck you /v/ im downloading this shit right now

Will /v/ ever make another guild in an MMO and play together? Did /vg/ kill that off?

>>386938074
I've read that the /vg/ GW2 guild is actually pretty good if that counts. Or was? Is it still around?

>>386938136
>/vg/ guild is good
>same guild that had a member leave and create a bot that has crashed any attempt to create a new /gw2g/

>>386938136
The EU version, that is. NA was always aids.

>>386938136
EU /vg/ guild still lives but not sure about the NA one. Last I checked it splintered into like 3 different ones.

I fear that elite specs become necessary instead of being options. Like you can't choose three vanilla specs or you'd be gimping yourself.

>>386938195
give EU guild invite

>>386906435
Hello 2009

>>386938362
Whisper any of those names on the /gw2g/ opening posts.

>shills going full force on /v/ to make people buy their dead mmo expansion
I bought HoT and left shortly after you arent fooling me again
Anet is the todd howard of mmos

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>LOOK AT THIS AWESOME MOUNT!!111

rest of the game is shit and ugly graphic

>>386936223
>>386936258

>metabattle

Don't be trash, visit qT. They make the best guides.

is this the best b2p mmorpg?

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>>386896942

I have gw2 burnout so I'm thinking of trying out ffxiv instead. But if it's only slightly better than gw2 then it's probably not worth the monthly payment only then am I going for this expansion.

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>>386938475
Guild Wars 2 is many things, but ugly isn't one of them.

>>386938608
No... ESO is much better. Even Black Desert Online.

>>386938608
No

>>386938608
Yes, by far.

>>386938649
>BDO

Nah.

>>386938608
GW2/ESO are probably the best MMOs out period at the moment.

>>386938362
Drop your name and I'll send you one.

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>>386938625
It is ugly even when viewed from the non-technical side. Constructed and cold-felt areas.

Of course, there are some highlights, but to 98% it is damn ugly and aged very bad. Worse than Guild Wars 1.

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>>386934989
DROPPED

>>386938789
>>386938649
>ESO
>scaled leveling
>good, let alone best b2p

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Enjoy telling mentally ill trans NPC'S how "brave" they are

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>>386937878
>>386937858

I fell for that trick with the GW2 beta. Game was so fucking front loaded for the first 20 levels, then nothing but jumping puzzles and reaching parts of the map.

Fool me once arena.net, never again.

>>386938475
better than FFXIV and WoW

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>>386938958
>Enjoy telling mentally ill trans NPC'S how "brave" they are

Holy shit, I forgot all about this.

>>386938910
>Scaled leveling
This system is actually fantastic in MMOs because you can do whatever content you want in whatever order you want and its still effective.

Due to the player scaling going upward instead of dragging you down at low level you have a basic rotation but inflated stats to fill in the gaps and as you progress and get more passives/skills you get a better handle on your own damage/mitigation/survival and the inflated stats wear off.

>play gw2 vanilla
>feel a fucking beggar until I hit max level
>fractals are fun but that's it
>if I want to do anything I have to grind a massive amount of hours to get just 1 (one) item
>if I want to farm something different I have to farm a shitload of weeks more
HoT didn't improve this
and this expac probably won't

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can someone post the tranny raid dev pic?

>>386938845
GW1 graphics really didn't age well at all that's just your nostalgia speaking.
Most of Prophecies looks dreadful now.

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>>386938983

>Actually believing this.

>>386938964
I mean, I never got the "never do anything" (if anything it feels like I don't have time to do many of them).

>>386938845
Simply false, like a lot of anti-GW2 arguments.

>>386939080
Legion is better than Stormblood

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>>386939034

Sorry, I'm not brave enough for that.

so it's just one guy spamming the same subject huh

>>386939080
>not believing this

I'm not paid to like SE or Blizzshit

>>386939117

Your opinion is correct

>>386938845
Some people call everything shit. Either they really have 0 taste for art or are just negative for the sake of being negative.

>>386937851
>Thinking Blizzard gives a shit about any other developer when they are curbstomping all of their competition.

>play GW2 for a few days
>lose interest
>try to log back in months later
>someone else logged into my account from somewhere else

How?

>>386939240
Blizzard has ripped off popular ideas from other MMOs for the entire span of WoW, not really good or bad but they mostly look at what worked/failed for other games then retool it fit into WoW.

A game can flop or be on its last legs population wise but still have had good ideas.

>>386938845
>Worse than Guild Wars 1.

The game where I spent hundreds of hours walking through corrugated steel slums and mud? Come on son.

>>386939240
>being this much of blind drone
WoW has been lifting promising features from other MMOs for many years now, even Blizzfags know this.

>>386937864
The skill system is not limited, it's different
GW1 was all about synergy between skills, it was great but it worked because it was a CORPG, a more static and slower game made for coop. You can't simply put the same system in a more classical MMO.

In GW2 you have 5 skills per weapon, so for most classes it's 2x 5 skills + the 5 others + the profession specific mechanics. For some other like elementalist it's 20 skills for one weapon alone. Then there's the interactivity between skills, and between an aoe on the ground while a projectile pass through it and things like that.

People can joke about it all they want, the GW2 skill system is one of the less limited one you can find in the MMO genre.

>>386939264
You probably used a compromised email+password combo.
Set up 2 factor authentication and or use an unique password.

>>386939042
Dumb amerifat. I never said that GW1 aged well, it just aged, in a long period, better than GW2.

If I purchase this expansion will I automatically get haert of thorns as well?

so did I get these right

Scourge - shades replace shroud, sorta acts like illusions, can explode them with punish
Mirage - pseudo-thief skills, summons are more oriented towards you
Holosmith - has a mode like shroud but when it fills up you explode
Firebrand - tomes replace the virtues which have a more verbose passive effect, and have mantras
Deadeye - stealth ranged fighter with less mobility I take it
Spellbreaker - basically a more mobile fighter
Renegade - AoE but more focused on condis and pseudo-summons
Beast - uses skills based on the pet and gains more buffs
ele elite - I actually haven't seen much of this in action

>>386939447
no

PoF is cheaper vs HoT though and they have a "pack-in" where both expacs cost the same as HoT

>>386939447
No, but you get a 10$ discount on HoT if you buy both together so it's 50$ total.

>>386939330
Oh this is true and all, but you have the belief that GW2 is doing anything special with mounts to begin with. That's being a blind drone.

>>386939521
Except it is? Mounts have an offensive dismount to get into combat in a much smoother transition and they aren't just for covering ground out of combat but have a purpose in terms of puzzle solving/covering specific terrain.

Mounts in most MMOs are literally just a faster way to get from A to B and offer zero other functionality.

>>386939396
>it just aged, in a long period, better than GW2.

Still wrong though. GW2 just had a problem with the postprocess effects in some of the earlier zones but the game is literally a way better looking GW1. Same engine, same artistic direction, same feel to the environment.

avoid the NA /vg/ guild at all costs
it hasn't been good in years and is lead by a pair of apathetic clowns

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>>386939579
>tfw this is the case with 99% of MMOs but /v/ doesn't make guilds anymore

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>Why can't gw1 autists fuck off?

>>386939662
Why don't vanillafags leave WoW threads alone?
Why don't ffxifags leave ffxiv threads alone?
Nostalgia is a powerful force.

>>386939576
>Shell out the story and gameplay in favor of making things prettier.
This is why GW1 will always be better.

>>386938393
literally noone answered, in the thread or in discord

is the guild dead?

>>386939715
FFXIfags aren't as bad as you make it seem to be. And I would even say that gw1 autist are more obnoxious than vanillafags.

>>386939619
>4chan vidya guilds used to be good like muh 4chan.
No, it wasn't. Everyone on this board and every board cannot play video games together, it's inherently impossible in the long time idea and it kills any idea of building into a game, because you faggots turn to one idea to the next on a whim then bicker with one another.

>>386939576
Amerifats... No text apprehension

>>386939721
this is one of the most hilarious 180 degree posts in /v/ I've ever seen in recent times.

Won't top the No Man's Sky one though.

>>386938165
The guy was just an autist desu, he didn't leave, they both kicked him because he spammed out of the blue.

>>386938074
see >>386934560
It's apparently the same ones from the betas. Last I checked they were pretty old, so probably.

>>386939737
Don't join any 4chan guild period.
To answer the actual question yes it's dead and the people that ran it, shitpost in every other mmo thread about GW2 being good.
The only reason these threads are popping up on /v/ is pure shilling for new expansion, there hasn't been a single reason to talk about this game before that.

>>386939737
The thread is dead because it's swarmed with bots and I dunno about the discord, never went there.
Leave your account name here, I can gat back to it later today since I'm at work right now if you haven't got an invite until then.

>>386939737
?
The thread is hard to read, but I see some guy being answered in the discord just fine.

>>386939906
>>386939918
nvm, fixed it

fired it up and the only thing I'm dissapointed about is that the intro cinematic didn't have
>Elona, land of the golden sun
otherwise it's good

>>386939737
Dude just drop your name here if's you're EU and you'll be invited, it's that simple.

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>>386939906
>shitpost in every other mmo thread about GW2 being good
Or you just hate the game and think every positive post about gw2 equals a shitpost.

>>386940004
Well, technically half of the expansion isn't in Elona yet. We can't get to Kourna and Istan and only a little bit of Vabbi.

>>386939579
Yeah I'll trust the shitposter instead.

Fuck off with your /vg/ drama, I'm going to join them and find out for myself, it's usually pointless namedrops. At least with the botspam I can /see/ the problem.

>>386940425
I bet those people seeked for attention and yet the guild ignored them.

>>386939619
>>386939816
Active /vg/uy, a lot of threads can get shit up because of this, I've been and NA and it has ups and downs desu, but that's the case with any guild, I don't think it's bad. They treat their newfags pretty well, that's my go-to for judging any group. I also don't want to sound like I'm shilling but they've also been active for years to my surprise, so many 4chan guilds just die when the game dies or because people leave

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>GW2 is so good even Anet employees would rather play XIV
l m a o

>>386940745
>WoW raid designer played FFXIV to see how other companies handle raiding
>Even complimented them but also raised how FFXIV handles its raid fights differently.

>>386940745
>people aren't allowed to play other people's games

what mindset is this