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Smash Con Day 2 - Melee/Sm4sh national

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4-day tourney for all four smash games. Hbox, mang0 plup,, leff, m2k zero, tweek, isai, et al. all here.

Melee and wii pools today, then tonight is the Smash Masters with 8 players playing all four games in a single-elim bracket.

main streams: @VGBootcamp for sm4sh @VGBootcamp2 for Meele

full stream schedule in thread
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today's events (also new rivals char announced earlier)
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So we're going all the way up to top 24 in Melee and 4 today? That's pretty nice.
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>hbox wins
>larry lurr wins

Good tourney for me
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Anyone watch the 64 combo contest yesterday?
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How do we fix this shit?
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>>386854782
that Prince combo was fucking unreal. Man imagine how much for fun this game would be to watch if there were more legal stages
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plup killing a kid live on stream 2
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i think gimr forgot about the melee stream
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the quality of the stream is not up to snuff imo
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>>386856550
what do yo mean? capture quality, layout, resolution, etc?
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>>386856632
the game itself looks kinda blurry
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YUNG WESH
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>>386856712
i got shit internet so i don't really notice. vgbc has definitely never had the best streams though, EvenMatchupGaming and Showdown have always been better
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who the fuck is jackzilla and why is he always on commentary
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>>386857445
Somehow he's still better than Vro
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>pools
>round one pools
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Axe loses game 2 lol
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>literally who sheik takes a game off axe
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>the pile of sand that is Arizona
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Axe has beaten fucking m2k in this matchup
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l-london...
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AXE CAN WIN A MAJOR GUYS!!!!
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post fantasies brews

i got Big Leff taking this tourney vs. Plup in grand finals. how blacked am I?
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https://twitter.com/G2Westballz/status/895834504492929024
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>>386858986
he's gonna win this one tho. if he finds a way to avoid fatbox he can deinitely do it
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>>386859131
what the fuck lmao
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>2 games of melee end before one of tr4sh
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>Mang0 / Leffen DQ
Epic for the win. Didn't leffen have a sub goal for this after bitching about how lame subgoals were for sponsored players?
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>>386854782
Got a video link sir?
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>>386859694
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYTAYiQw3JY
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>>386859662
I didn't even know doubles started yet. what the fuck i was so hyped to see them
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>>386853434
>party games
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please tell me blur is here. he's the only decent pools commentator
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>>386860403
Blur/scar is best pools duo.
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>>386860403
blur sucks dick
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This is the driest commentator ever, at least D1 provides good fake hype
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>>386860726
t. buttmad smash box user
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>>386860726
Why don't you cry more about having an even match up on twitter.
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>>386860765
D1 and EE are both good commentators together. They know how to make a match hype
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>>386860878
why don't you go lose to another kirby
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>>386860949
I wish EE would commentate Melee again.
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Where the fuck is my Brawl stream?

How can MVG get away with this garbage?
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>>386861110
EE knows nothing about melee though, even TK (who's generally pretty boring) got his start there so he knows it well enough. Leave him to sm4sh, him and Coney are the only decent things going for it anyway
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When's the next event the GOAT will be at?
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Is Axe playing? Love me some pikachu man
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>>386861826
he played half an hour ago and almost los t to a day one sheik breh. i doubt he makes top 32
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>>386861930
Fuck
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>>386859930
thanks m8
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is anyone seriously gonna watch the 'smashies'? award shows are super cringey in general, but this one might just take the cake
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who's your main /v/?
mine is falcon.
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I like how they play the music over the commercial.
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>>386862151
Started learning to play falco a couple days ago.
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>>386862151
best girl of course
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>>386862151
Me on the right.
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8bitman upset by a random fox
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>>386862151
Prince Marth
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How far does the bracket go today?
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>>386862376
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>>386862567
>le wavedash f-tilt man

Epic XD
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Remember kids, never EVER donate to send someone to a tournament.
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>>386862940
i think it's only to top 128 because its the first phase of pools. i rmemeber last year they did doubles finals instead today but now that's gonna be on sunday
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>>386863035
Hey, that's not very nice. It's mostly wavedash d-smash. Please get your facts straight.
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>>386863069
leffen needs the sub goal tho he only has 2 sponors
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>>386863069
is it okay to donate to buy them a car?
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>>386863069
t. entitled asshole

top players can do what tehy want, don't get mad if someone wants to gauge interest when it's obvious they're expected to go anyway...
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>>386862151
Melee: Marth
4: Robin
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>>386862151
Smash 4 Samus, though I just started playing Marth because I actually want to win something.
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>5-1 record vs faggotbox
>destroys leffen if he plays well
>reads m2k like a book

Who the literal fuck can stop him?
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>>386863335
how's your spacing going along
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>>386863335
>playing Marth because i want to win something

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>>386863490
aggressive alcoholism
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>>386863490
a naval fleet
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>>386863490
the player you're conveniently ignoring

Nowadays, peak mango is on the same level as standard armada. He has to play his ass off to keep up
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>>386863490
Liver cancer
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>>386863665
too bad cuckmada is on break because he knows mang0 is his biggest threat from finishing #1

but anyway, i was talking about this tourney in general.
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>>386863530
Its coming. I used to play Ike a lot so I have a little spacing background. I'm still having trouble getting people like Mario off of me though.
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this falco is legit
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>>386863987
Bones is top 10 in MDVA iirc. he's definitely won a few Xanadus
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marth's roll is really damn good so newer players tend to overrely on it.
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>>386863490
Armada
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>>386863857
stay grounded
if he's above you be ready to uptilt
walk a lot
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Syrox will win Smash Con
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absolutely fucked
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i feel bad for that lil negro
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>watching melee pools

for what fucking purpose?
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>>386865846
for the low chance of witnessing an upset
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>>386865846
i like watching melee
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FOX WINS LOL
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>>386865846
Love of the game. Though I agree they can be boring as dirt. Smash 4 pools tend to be more exciting for character diversity. Melee top 32 is actually the best melee.
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It's crazy how good Marth is
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A good marth beats a good fox 60 out of 100 times. That's why lefffen and others complain about the matchup. Fox has to be PERFECT to win neutral PLUS the punish game is way harder than le upair juggle man
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When was the last time plup played leffen? Does he still go samus? I think last time I saw them play he went sheik and samus. Seeing lef get fucked by a samus first round of top 24 would be so satisfying.
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>>386866464
leffen destroyed plup at evo. i think he went sheik
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Remember to sit straight, Anon.
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Just noticed how blurry the gameplay is (at least for melee, not sure about sm4sh). Too poor to afford composite cables GIMR?
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>>386866728
or just play Melee on a HD tv thats 8ms
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commentary schedule, vish and HMW should be good
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>>386866396
Fox doesn't have to be perfect. He gets easy gimps off of crouch cancel shine at low percent. Fox gets kills off of his grab and juggles, Marth gets to put Fox into an edge guard situation off of his juggles. Fox mains are shitters who can't deal with the fact that some characters can almost hit him as hard as he hits others.
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oh shit....it's that time again. 4chan and a tourny.

good times.....
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>>386867154
>crouch-cancel shines

That's a gimmick that doesn't work at high level. Fox has to work super hard to win neutral and will still never get a one touch to death like marth does. Marth is broken when a fox is past 50 percent, whereas marth at higher percents can DI away out of kill combos
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>>386867159
I'm actually bummed other games don't get tourney threads, besides EVO and the speed running stuff.
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ESAM LOL
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That almost ragequit lol
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>>386867738
check vg, all the other e-sports are covered there
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>>386867594
Fox needs three shines in the neutral and he can take a stock. One to get the Marth off the stage, one to get the double jump, and one for the up b. They sometimes don't need the third one if they hold ledge. Crouch cancel shine beats all of Marth's ledge options besides ledge dash, which of course loses to spot dodge shine.
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Dath (world's best Robin) is already out what the fuck
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ESAM is the only reason i watch sm4sh t b h
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>>386868107
Robin sucks, and so do Robin players.
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>>386868107
>lost to a corrin/falcon
>then a DDD
L O L
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>>386868184
Why? He's shit
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>>386868319
Just wait for some random Jap to get top 8 at EVO with her. She's secretly mid-tier
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No project m so its a shit
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What just happened?
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>>386868472
esam has been fantastic the past few months, plus good pika play is incredibly fun to watch. Technical char and ESAM himself is pretty aggro all things considered
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>>386868483
there's a project m side event tho

who wants to watch lolthunderzreign wins again anyway?
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>>386868481
Japan doesn't even have Robins. There was that one who cosplayed as Robin(male), but I think he stopped playing. Robin is probably mid tier, it's just that Robin mains hella overrate their character. Wii Fit and Duck Hunt probably have better results overall.
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>>386868483
Delete this right now.
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Holy shit that bob-omb prediction
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this guy looks like a beta version of EE
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R A D E E A
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Whens hyuga playing ?
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>>386870408
NEVER EVER
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>>386870515
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rip gaben
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>>386870408
I think the only Mexican of note there is MK Leo. Last week at smash factor Hyuga got upset early and then had to fight Anti who also got upset early. Anti won and Hyuga got something ridiculous like 64th.
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What do we (/v/) think of this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9psb_ew1w0
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>>386870872
It's perfect and a million times better than Hax's mod.
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>tfw you wavedash across fd for the first time
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Who's gonna win Smash Masters with m2k out?

it's wide open as fuck
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>>386868812
it's still funny to me that he has a little assistant&brother named aposl (or whatever spelling)
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>>386871294
>tfw you waveshine a peach across FD for the first time
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>>386871498
Zero or Wizzy
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>>386871664
im thinking esam, he's great at all the smash games save for 64, which i suppose he'll gimick with pika or kirby
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>blast zone commentating smash 4 top 8
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>>386872139
that's why i love smash con - they give the people what they want
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>fat lard
>peach main

makes sense
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>>386872139
It means Coney won't be shitposting with us during top 8
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>>386872509
I'm sure he'll dip in to shit post before that. He normally shows up when we start talking about him.
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>>386871498
Does anyone know why he didn't enter? Or any non-Melee events for that matter? No Brawl or even Sm4sh Doubles?
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>>386873281
He didn't enter brawl? that's weird, seems like a free paycheck
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>>386873506
I don't know how many Brawl tournaments he has entered since then, but Smash Con 2015 was the last one he has won. He didn't win last year, and hasn't won the other Brawl events like GOML.
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>>386871294
>tfw you do one wavedash across the whole length of fd
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>>386874241
yeah really just depends on who else enters. 2015 i think had less top brawl players than recent 'revivals'
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Even twitch is bored at this pannel
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tafo and fendy starting commentary on MeleeEveryday
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Is this some kind of Q&A
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JUST
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Melee singles are now being streamed @ MeleeEveryday
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>>386874961
Yeah Smash Con has regular general con stuff on top of the tournament. Tomorrow is going to have a cosplay contest, a performance by dizzkidboogie's orchestral band, and the Smashies. Which is an award show hosted by Coney. Sunday is going to have an analysis panel before the top eights start.
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What the fuck is this and WHO is alpharad?
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Name a worse duo.
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>>386875571
some guy who capitalized on the smash 4 hype at release by making silly videos and got a huge following from it
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>>386875679
Vro and Jackzilla
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>>386875679
D1 and anyone
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>>386875679
D1 and Blur
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Stream went from 7k to 5.1k between this pannel
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>>386875679
Name a better duo you ungrateful stream-monster
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>the main stream, VGBootshit, showing some literally who youtuber pannel
>pools streamed on the fucking side side stream

I want GIMR to explain this shit right fucking now
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>>386876110
Is this shit going on all the way unto the Smash Masters?
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4 streams and nothing of value.

PM Died for goymr and video jewcamp
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The one commentator more awkward than d1: fendrick fucking lamar
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>Rarely watch tournament streams
>Decide to watch this one
>Two white dudes having a Q&A about being a youtuber or some shit.
So this is gaming.
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>>386876275
No, but the is like going to be a gap in between this and Smash Masters.
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How's your smash channel doing, bros?
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>>386876924
Yeah i'm looking at the schedule. I don't know how they're gonna leave their main stream dead for 2 hours then expect to get good viewership for smash masters.. gimr pls
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why are there so many peach players? literally jiggs-lite cancer
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>Swedish Delight
I can smell the fucking stench just from watching this disgusting mouth breather.
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hey it's the guy from weezer
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>>386877323
SAAAYYY NIGGERRR
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>>386876943
You had to start during the beginning of Smash 4 to be a successful smash channel now. No one knew who the fuck Etika was until he played some early copy of Smash 4.
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>>386877051
I think it's less on GIMR and more on just how the the event is being worked. Still in bad form though.
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how do you guys avoid the in-channel ads these days?
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>>386877491
True, or just be a top player. You don't even have to make good content, just have good thumbnails and post regularly.
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>>386877673
by opening up a new tab and shitposting
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this autist's wobbling motion is hilarious
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>>386867074
Jesus they just had to pick the worst commentators ever for Smash Masters didn't they
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>d1 not at smash con

welp, rip a good top 8 commentary
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>>386878298
Not to mention there's supposed to be an expert for each game, and no melee regular is even on there..
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>>386878332
Coney, EE, and Tkbreezy are perfect for Smash 4. Vish HMW isn't ideal, but HMW will probably make it work.
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>>386853434
Why didn't M2K enter smash masters?
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>>386878636
yeah in terms of sm4sh, my top 3 groupings are

1. coney, ee, tk
2. d1 and ee
3. gunblade and keitaro

melee is a lot harder, but you need a strong personality to balance whatever analytical voice is complimenting (whether it's tafo, wobbles, toph, etc)
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>>386878758
wants to focus on melee

3 day tourneys are rough on top players
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Small Leff
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That fox was playing amazing too..

leffen's definitely the best at the fox ditto, armada 2nd and prob druggedfox 3rd
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Just woke up and missed the Ranno announcement. What was /v/'s reaction?
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>>386880209
How can Leffen be the best if he constantly loses to Armada, and Mango hasn't lost a Fox ditto to Armada?
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is he here?
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>>386880402
what other good foxes does armada beat? and pretty sure the last time they played leffen won

also mang0 seems to exclusively go falco vs. fox these days, he's probably still up there but we don't know
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>>386880368
Literally none. No one cares about a dead game.
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>>386880368
>/v/
>playing rivals of aether

i don't think i've ever seen a thread about it on here. you'd get better responses in fgg lol
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Why do we hate swedish again? HIs weeg is sick
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>>386880749
delete this
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>>386880632
Armada is 5-1 against Leffen this year. All Fox dittos. Armada normally goes Peach against everyone else, but from player streams you can find ample evidence of him destroying Sfat, Ice, Lucky, MikeHaze, Professor Pro, and KJH.
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>>386880926
Fuck that guy
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>>386881115
t. got tech-chased at his local once
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Swedish killin the dream
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ITT: spot the gaylee player
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>>386880368
I don't care much for Rivals, but this guy seems pretty cool. Noticeably smoother and more detailed animations compared to most of the cast, and seems fun to play. He looks like he has Sheik's needles that put a marker on you that determine how long his Yoshi egg lay move lasts. He also has Sheik back air and Greninja down smash, but everything else seems fairly original.
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if dizzkidboogie lost 50lbs he would be the best looking smasher
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>>386881538
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>>386881729
I don't know he's a bit too intense looking, but that fact that he's a musician definitley makes up for it.
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>advertising his band

Kek, gotta love this dude
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>>386882097
He always comes across as a real stand up guy.
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I think Dizz is on coke or something
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Reminder that Leffen is scum who sub goaled teaming with mango here, but now refused to because 10am is too early for a sissy like him.
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>>386882346
>waaahhh wahhhh 10am pools is too early for me to play video games!!!

Do these people not realize that normal jobs require you to wake up even earlier?
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>>386878332
Wasn't he there yesterday at the 64 combo contest?
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>>386882736
I'm sure over 90% of top players have never had a normal job in their life.
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>>386882346
As a leffen sub, don't fucking spread misinformation about him. Leffen was at his pool at 9:30, it was mang0 who seemingly forgot he had a sub goal for teams. Fuck that drunken mess
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>>386882856
He might be at the event but he was just in the melee stream talking about how he has the weekend off, so i'm assuming he's not commentating any of the major events.
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>>386882885
I think most top players have some form of job. It's only like the top 20 or 30 that don't and even then some of them do, like Duck and Shroomed.
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>>386882346
Reminder that this anon is an idiot and doesn't know that it was Mang0 who missed doubles with Leffen asking where he was.
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>As a leffen sub
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>>386882915
Leffen tells mango multiple times, days in advance, to not bother showing up. Such as in that tweet, or in his twitch chat. So mango doesn't show up, and Leffen pins it on him?
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>>386882885
The top top players are also treated like celebrities by this community so you can't blame them for acting so entitled.
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>>386883148
>Mango was still down to go.
>Leffen accepts this.
>At dawn, mango and Leffen are still awake.
>Leffen can show up.
>Mango can't.

Really makes the noggin wobble, huh?
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>>386882915
>>386883104
Mango didn't show up because Leffen said not to
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I just realized leffen has an issue with every single american tournament he goes to. either too early pools, too many people asking for autographs, finishes too late, didn't get his complimentary hand-sanitizer at the hotel, etc. Such a brat.
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Thank god vish and HMW are next. I'm tired of these giga-clowns
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>>386883443
he's just looking for johns
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>>386883374
He clearly said it in 'i don't believe mang0 will actually wake up'. Not like he wasn't willing to go.

Whatever it's not a big deal unless you threw money at either of them--in which case, you're and idiot.
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>people in twitch chat saying ff4 is a bad game

Which one of you chucklefucks was it
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WIZZY DQ'd
https://smash.gg/tournament/super-smash-con-2017/events/melee-singles/brackets/144660/406284
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Leffen = good dude, takes responsibility for his actions even though it wasn't his fault, handsome and tall

why do we hate him again?
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>>386884123
anyone know why?
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>>386884123
whyyyyyyy
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>>386884313
We all need a Big Leff in our lives.
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>>386884123
his falcon is lame anyways
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>wizzy dq'd
>chu gets a free pass into winner's quarters
>hbox vs chu guaranteed

NOOOOOOO
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>>386884839
Chu still has to play smash god though right? He's pretty good against chu since he's a local.
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Kiwi a qt

That set up though
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>>386853434
I went to the first Super Smash Con because it's 5 minutes from my house, hoping they would have Mario Kart 8 also. Unfortunately it was just Smash, no offense to Smash.
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>>386853627
(You) me when Smash Masters begins pls.
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>vish passed out in the bathroom, threw up all over the toilets

WTFFFFF
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>>386885307
(Me)
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>>386885307
>>386885497
(B)
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>>386884982
yeah and chu got washed by Moon recently so he's defintely not safe in that matchup. i'd put it at 50/50
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>>386884982
It would be pretty exciting to see Rishi against Hbox again too.
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DruggedFox actually swagging for once
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KID ICARUS ON SWITCH??
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>>386886553
NEVER EVER
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>>386886009
Imagine if he beat Chu, Hbox, then Leffen to get into winners finals. Not likely at all but definitely in the realm of possibility.
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So many shitty falcos today

Always good to see them get bopped
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Best boy is on stream
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>>386886896
Of all of the pipe dreams that one is almost believable.
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>>386886896
He has the raw talent for sure, but surviving the ridiculous patience of both chu and hbox then the rushdown of a leffen would be mentally exhausting. Hope it happens tho, the crowd would explode considering its his home turf
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>>386884725
t. player who goes 0-2 in pools with falco
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>>386887090
too bad Austy the autist is paired with him, ruined any chance of good commentary for sm4sh tonight
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Larry's my pick to win this damn thing although it will probably be Salem
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>>386887714
Larry is my boy, but he always falls just short. Same with Void.
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>>386887356

I didnt realize there was a thread already, my b.
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>Puff ditto on melee stream
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>>386887967
Yeah his style is so aggro and fun, but if anyone besides Zero or a Bayo wins this i'd be happy
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Is it fucking time yet?

I just wanna see all the Sm4sh and Melee players play 64.
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>>386887967
He did win Mexico saga
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>>386887973
>yfw
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Leave ZeRo to me
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Screencap this post, Ike will finally win it all this time.
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>>386888193
are you a competitive 64 player? loling at your life if so
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>>386888237
It was a fun tournament.
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are their any mexicans at this tourney ?
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>>386887526
>i play falcon
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>>386888193
The only ones competent at 64 there are Wizzy and nintendude since m2k quit.
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>>386888601
M2K isn't really competent at 64 just knows ow to exploit hitboxes that the other 64 oblivious players don't even know about.

Wizzy is the obvious favourite to take this event since he can hold his own in Sm4sh and Brawl, is the favourite in Melee over almost everyone else, and has 64 cleared by a mile. It'd take some kind of major upset to knock him off.
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>>386888601
>m2k
>competent

doesn't he play kirby and spam up-tilt and back air?
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>>386888851
Well Someone like nairo will destroy him in both brawl and sm4sh, so it all depends on how hard wizzy owns in melee
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>>386888936
Yeah he only knows uptilt to back air and doesn't know the rest of the B&B Kirby combo.

As well Wizzy will know how to SDI all that shit while I doubt other players will have their 64 SDI together or even know that you can't DI in it.
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>>386888560
MKLeo
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>>386889118
Muchas gracias companero.
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>>386889079
I don't think he really will. Last year we saw Wizzy contending with ESAM and negotiating it to not be major losses. The series is split between major and minor losses and if he can just mediate the Brawl/4 games to minor losses then he's guaranteed major wins against guys like Nairo in 64 and Melee.
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ManGOAT bodying a little kid on MeleeEveryday
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I just want to see Juangrybox's Puff across all games.
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>>386859930
Thanks, although maybe 80% of that wasn't worth watching.
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>>386889310
That dude actually did pretty good, considering he was going against Mango of all people.
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>Brave little boy puts high and mighty elf in her place
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>>386889583
That was a great match.
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Why isn't m2k in this? He won last years. Him, wizzy, and zero are the only real contenders of winning but zero dropped out last year and m2k ain't here this year so the grands is basically guaranteed both years.
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>>386889784
people overrate m2k in shit like this. he's not guaranteed to win any of the individual games, and he's flat out awful in 64 and sm4sh these days
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>>386889784
>but zero dropped out last year
No he didn't, he got 13th place.
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>>386889784

His new gf has a terminal illness or something.
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>>386889942
Smash masters
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>>386889967
He doesn't have a girlfriend. He got catfished by some jackass and it happened months ago.
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>>386889935
I didn't say he's guaranteed, I said him, wizzy, and zero are the only one with a chance of getting to grands.
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>>386889935
>awful in smash4 these days
Oh wow, all this time I thought he stopped playing Smash 4 in favour of melee. But no goes to the big tournaments and he gets bad placing, but he seems to do well in doubles.
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>>386855005
There's nothing wrong with her. If there was she would have more major wins than she does.
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>>386890180
Basically every tourney he enters Melee and Smash 4 in, he loses super early in Smash 4 pools and then drops out.
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>>386890180
He usually does just drop out of smash 4
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>>386890272
She'll win this tourney, then she'll win big house, and then genesis and then maybe we can get her banned.

Fuck you for making excuses. Just because she hasn't been fully exploited yet doesn't mean she's not broken.
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How did Alvin lose out of combo contest last night?

His fucking combo was way better than Mariguas' first rounder.
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>>386890272
Fox didn't win a Melee major until 2013
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>>386853627
There's no way our OFFICIAL guy wizzrobe doesn't win smash masters right?
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>>386890452
Because Prince is the best.
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P.S. LEFFEN I AIN'T DONE YET
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I want to watch Zero vs Plup, but don't want to deal with the worse commentary.
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>>386890440
You know we saw a Bayonetta lose to Bowser Jr and Little Mac earlier, one fact the Little Mac 2 stocked Bayonetta.
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>>386891062
Little Mac secretly wins that matchup.. don't tell anyone tho
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It's too bad there's no 64 "specialist" players in there. Wizzy is a top player but he's more a Melee player mainly.

Both Isai and BoomFan could fucking stomp 64 and Melee.
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>>386890440
>She'll win this tourney, then she'll win big house, and then genesis and then maybe we can get her banned.
Which is why everyone pushed so hard to ban Diddy Kong and Sheik.
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Hbox = melee god, sm4sh god, puff sucks in brawl so he's gonna get rekt, i think he plays kirby in 64
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>>386891271

Everyone who sucks at 64 plays Kirby in 64.
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>>386855005
Go back in time and Rewrite the Smash Ballot
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>>386891159
Are we entering the era where everyone has a pocket Little Mac?
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>>386891259
the difference is that only Zero has taken either character to their heights, whereas we're quickly seeing several players carried by Bayo (namely Mistake, whose name was not even on anyone's radar 3 months ago).
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>>386891208
Maybe against Smash 4 players, but they would get shat on in Melee, and wouldn't have an advantage in Brawl and 4.
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Where's PM?
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>>386853434

Now that's some console gore. Those colors look hideous on those consoles.

At least they're not rare or anything.
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>>386891271
He plays Dedede in brawl newfag
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>>386891415
Dead.
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>>386891402
>they would get shat on in Melee

Doubt it. They're both extremely good Melee players. Have you never heard the legend of Falcomaster3000?

>>386891315
>there are still people who think the Smash Ballot was a real thing
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>>386891415
delete this
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>>386891315
Damn europeans. Can't blame them though, the Bayonetta games are insanely good and she's always been the main reason why
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>>386891350
I have a guy in my Area who is Heavily- HEAVILY carried by that witch bitch, infact I had even asked him if he played anyone else and he straight up said 'no'.
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How exactly does this work? They just play a random game or play all of them?
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>Pacman
>>386891350
And nobody knew about DJ Jack or Locus, then they picked Ryu and got good.

So lets ban Ryu!
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>>386891497
Against the actually melee players, but the old men don't give a fuck about the new games. They aren't as good across the board.
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haha wizzy doesn't even play 4 and he's rekting hfat
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>>386891659
>Against the actually melee players

Doubt it. They're both extremely good Melee players. Have you never heard the legend of Falcomaster3000?

>>386891670
he duz tho
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i thought last year they played a game of all 4 smash titles. but they're playing sets now?
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lol if wizzy wins melee
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>>386891790
Doc kid please stay in the twitch chat.
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>>386891574
Get good
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This is gonna take fucking forever to keep changing systems.
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>>386892356
Yep
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>>386892356
I bet half the delay is Wizzy fucking around like he always does just to piss everyone off
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>>386892079
I don't play Doc tho
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>>386892356
Yeah you'd think they'd have a fucking better system for switching the stream input from console to console.
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>>386892452
Good one dad
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>>386892592
I'm not your daddy just because your mom calls me that.
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What am i watching..
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>>386893015
Smash Masters
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ResidentSleevil
>>
Hey Plup beat Zero in 64. He may actually win this.
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>>386893314
Whoa good thing we didn't see that on stream haha eh GIMR?
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>be a decent looking dude
>want to become a grill

why
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>>386893413
It's on VGBootcamp2
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>>386893457
You can't be a grill if you're a bad looking dude
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>>386893457
Idk man. I remeber I wanted to become friends with this dude I'm my Calc class and he was cool and everything and had probably the nicest beard and hair I'd seen in a dude, he looked like he could pull mass pussy. Turns out the reason he was hesitant to become friends with me is because he wanted to have a pussy.
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Should've picked Cloud, Justin.
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>>386893457
degenerate
>>
didn't see this mentioned but MacD lost in pools
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Rosalina players rely on the fact that their character is fundamentally broken to win
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>>386894064
Zero is probably the best on the planet at gimping Cloud, though it would have helped his neutral.
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>>386894254
Doesn't really matter, it would have given him juggles and kill moves. Cloud is indisputably the easier character in the game to just pick up and play intuitively.
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this game switch time is killing any excitement I had for this event
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Who did Plup play in 64?

I assume ZeRo was Kirby
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>>386894506
Plup Kirby Zero fox.
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>the absolute misery on hbox's face
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>>386894506
plup was kirby, zero was fox
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Nice four stock loser
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Are they seriously delaying the games on the streams to coincide with the breaks on the other?
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64 is GOAT
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>>386853434
>No items only foxes
this is super lame.
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>>386895069
>64yearolds
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>>386895310
Chudat will cheese out Nintendude with kirby in 64 and in Brawl.
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I can't believe people ever put up with Brawl.
Fuck this is miserable.
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Chu vs Nintendude is going to be the most degenerate set ever.
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>>386895715
Still why would these retards disable items?
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>>386895807
>Brawl players
>people
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I didn't know you could blipblip in 64
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>no timer modded into 64
>with Chudat
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>Brawl Meta Knight

WHO THOUGHT THIS WAS A GOOD IDEA
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>LUL LUL LUL LUL LUL LUL
>>
NEW THREAD FUCKING WHEN??????
>>
kek Chudat Chronicles
>>
This franchise is officially dead
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>>386853627
>Alpharad panel
>That piece of shit eceleb faggot who's not even good at the game gets a whole panel because he's popular
Kill me, senpai.
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>this 64 play from guys who can't even Z-cancel their aerials
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>>386898265
I'm always going to give him respect for beating lowtiergod, which set up his whole rant for Anti to beat him.
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64 has seriously surprised me, can't wait for sunday
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>>386898725
wait what? Anti was the one who beat LTG
>>
GODSAM IS TAKING THIS THING
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>>386899094
>the city of you
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>>386898973
Alpharad beat him first. Which led to LTG going on that rant about how he would never lose to a smash player, and then Anti beat him on his stream.
>>
Nintendude is our guy
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Is it Smash 4 on literally every stream?
And you can't find the best overall smasher without including PM
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>>386899554
PM is NOT an official smash game. Let it go.
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>>386899554
ICs melee ditto on vgbootcamp2
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Chu is fucking trash lol, Mike just put him back in the cuckshed where he belongs
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>>386899636
Stop trying to rewrite history. PM is a real part of the competitive Smash community.

>>386899665
thank you
but according to chat brawl will be played now so may have to watch that
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>>386900026
I said PM is not an official smash game. That's not rewriting history. It's LITERALLY fact.

It's dead so let it go.
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>>386900131
but it's still a real smash game essential to being good at smash. officialness doesn't matter. It's accepted as a real game and has an important place in history of competitve smash. You can't leave out such an important chapter of smash history and claim you have been tested at everything. the competition is flawed without pm.
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>>386900131
But it literally is.

It is Brawl.
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>>386900120
Did zero get fucked badly in melee?
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gah looks like it's melee. Wanted to watch brawl. Have they already done that?
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>>386900356
Nah Plup played his tertiary.
>>
nairo has always hated melee so it's not surprise he's getting washed
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>>386900393
they switch games within each matchup
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>>386900393
brawl is on meleeveryday
vgbc is a tournament where they play a set in every smash game
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>>386891497
>>there are still people who think the Smash Ballot was a real thing
I still think Cloud was the actual winner, but was added separately to see who else could make it in
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>>386900356
Plup did the Fox ditto. It was dominant, but not total destruction. I think he had mathematically lost already so he was phoning it in.
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>>386889935
>awful in sm4sh

Hmm... what did he mean by this?
>>
it's cool how wizzy plays completely different chars in all the smash games.
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>>386900852
There is absolutely no way Bayo won the Smash Ballot. I didn't even hear of a single person voting for that shit character. It was King K. Rool and shitposting 24/7.

I think they wanted a surprise 3rd party character and asked around but Bayo was the only one that accepted.
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I want to fuck wizzloli in hi boipuccy until he cries
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man i miss brawl stages so much. they had the most personality of any of the mainline smashes
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>>386901295

A fish in the water.
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OUR BOY TAKES IT FROM NAIRO
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RIP Big Leff
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>>386901295
Isn't he like 15 years old anyway?
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>tr4shfags get brawl for free
>still lose
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>>386901643
>Wizzrobe
>/ourguy/

No.
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>>386901685
>Pre-johns
What a fucking pussy.
>>
I feel like Chu is gonna be upset by either Zain or Rishi. Hope I'm wrong.
>>
goddamn smash 64 is such a stupid game. nairo going out in embarrassing fashion
>>
Jesus fuck zero has no chance. Why couldn't they just let m2k enter again.
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>>386901792
Didn't wizzrobe start with Brawl before he went on to the othe games?
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>>386902278
zero plays a cheesier style brawl. He may get the BV there.
>>
Nairo realizing what happens when you play a game that takes skill
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>>386902278
No ZeRo will get big wins in both Brawl and Sm4sh and could prevent Wizzy from getting a big win in Melee.
>>
>>386902278
I think M2K didn't want to enter.
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>>386902345
>smash 64
>skill

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHAAA
>>
>>386902345
>how do I press buttons at specific and precise times?
>where are my throw combos?
>I can't spam defense options?
>>
Whats with the soylent bot
>>
After the Brawl and 64 sets, Sm4sh looks so fucking fast lmao
>>
it's nice to finally have a game where Bowser feels versatile and at least somewhat viable.
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>auto-combos into kill moves
>tr4sh takes """""""""""""""skill"""""""""""""""
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>>386902484
>Isai left Melee for it
Pretty sure it shows how in-depth it is.
>>
>>386902823
I'm glad, he feels and actually looks like a true representative of what Bowser should be.
>>
so long gay zelda
>>
Please nintendude, find a way to knock out zero.
>>
>>386902984
I thought he just found it more fun.
>>
>>386903078
I want to see him get wobbled 8 times for the tr4shbabby tears. I hope he doesn't go easy on him.
>>
>>386903078
Wizzrobe will destroy Zero.
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>>386903081
>thatsthejoke.myschoolapp.com
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>>386903078
To be quite genuinely frank and honest he's going to big victory 64 and Melee and can hold his own in Brawl although ZeRo's Brawl strategy is greasy enough to negate it.
>>
>>386903191
Zero is better than Nairo in Melee. If Zero manages to take stocks and then get big wins in Brawl and Smash 4 he can upset him easily.
>>
Is it possible zero is getting even fatter?
>>
>>386903591
Yes and his neckbeard isn't doing him any favors
>>
it's like how hbox plays vs ICs but with a sword
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>>386903591
Gettin' fat off dat pussy
>>
Well, hopefully our dear sweet pizza boy can take out scarflard
>>
>>386903153
>tr4shbabby tears

Too bad most of the Smash 4 community hates ZeRo. You would have had people upset if that happened to Nairo, though.
>>
>wizzrobe will destroy this fat faggot in grands
>>
Does Nintendude still play Mario in 64? Or just Fox?
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Why is marth so broken, bros?
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64 movement is broken.
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>nintendude is hax in 64
>>
nintendude looks shook already. Holy shit lmao
>>
After all the patches Sm4sh looks funnier to play than melee
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i wanna punch this faggot
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>>386904742
It is, it's fucking hilarious.
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>>386904786
you wouldn't do shit to him if you ever saw him you fucking autist hahaha lmao
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>>386904742
(You)
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>>386904742
It's alright the movement is nowhere near as fun as melees. And they still haven't fucking buffed dedede and all the patches don't mean much its just a top tier shuffle.
>>
>>386904873
i'd uppercut him so hard he would bite your dick off
>>
>>386904917
You didnt prove me otherwise
>>
>>386904917
It's different kind of game then melee. To each their own anon.
>>
If Smash wants to become a true esport then Melee needs to die permanently.
>>
>>386905502
But Melee is the only Sash game fit for esports.
>>
>>386905502
You Need To Die Permanently
>>
>>386905502
Smash 4 will probably die before Melee, not even trying to hate.
>>
>>386905502
Yeah because that makes sense right? Smash is the biggest and best grassroots game series. It's good enough as that.
>>
the wobbling will commence
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>>386905502
Esports are fucking awful though
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>>386905679
You seriously think they are trying to settle as being the big grassroots game? They want it to become a true esport so fucking bad they killed PM for daddy Nintendo to notice.
>>
>>386905839
Melee is the grassroots scene and they certainly weren't the ones who killed PM for daddy Nintendo.
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>>386905984
Melee is trying so hard to become esports. You must be delusional if you don't see it. The melee "leaders" even established some sort of fucking 25 man committee to shatter the ceiling preventing them from becoming esport.
>>
Wiz needs brawl to go split
>>
>>386906179
The 25 isn't for "shattering the ceiling preventing them from becoming esports." Fucking idiot. It was made because people suddenly started bitching about the ruleset and things like the controller lottery.
>>
>>386906179
>unified ruleset
>lul this is esportz
>>
>>386906407
I watched Hugo's stream with one of those autists on the 5 man committee who made those ruleset and he literally stated that it was made in order to shatter that ceiling and take the next step towards being esports. You're a legit idiot if you don't think the people playing melee for years want it to stay grassroots. Also they have been begging daddy Nintendo to notice them and add pot bonuses for over a decade.
>>
How did a smash 4 player almost take a game off a melee player in melee? I thought you had to be godly to play melee.
>>
>>386906657
Working towards securing consistent net growth is not "shattering the ceiling to become esports". It is just doing better than what came before.
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>>386906179
you must have missed hbox's speech where he got on stage after winning a tournament and literally said fuck esports and fuck nintendo, and everyone sucked his dick for it.
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>>386906730
It's called Smash Masters Tournament.

People who play more than just Melee in the Smash Bros series tend to excel in all different Smash Bros games.

Also, Nintendude isn't one of the "five gods" autismos.
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>>386863490
A blonde Swede.
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>>386906730
Zero used to play Melee before.
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>>386906863
You seriously think they want to stay as the big fish in a small pond? They've wanted to grow their crappy scene into an esport tier league for years but Nintendo won't give them the time of day so they're stuck.
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>>386906730
Zero was like 30th in the world before he quit. He would have destroyed nintendude if he had more practice.
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>>386906730
Zero was a Melee player and then became a Smash 4 player for the money. Because of his Brawl talent and friendship with M2K, all of his PM and Melee experience came from getting to train with M2K and Armada in the 2012 to 2014 era.
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>>386906730
ZeRo was top 40 in Melee in his prime, beat Amsa and I think took a game from Armada. Could probably be top 20 or 15 if he never quit. Dudes good as fuck at Smash
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>>386907104
If he really kept doing it seriously he could potentially be number 1.
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>>386907194
Not above gods, maybe Sfat or Plup level.
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>>386907194
No one likes to admit it because Armada exists and the thought of people beating him is so ludicrous. Also Zero is actually significantly more annoying than Hbox, and people don't want to live in a world with those two in the top three.
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>>386907194
He has the lamest run away and laser camp style fox. There would be never ending bitching if he was a top player.
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Come on wiz, if you're going to make a move this is it.
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What's even the point of playing 64 against Wizzrobe?
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>>386907194
I don't think so. He was never too great against fast fallers with smoother movement than him, or anyone that just out punishes him like m2k.
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>>386907583
you mean like when he was dominant in smash4?
He'll still get bodied by the other gods.
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>>386907397
The gods are not actually gods, they are just very good players. Zero could beat the gods, he has already proven himself to be able to reach the top in multiple smash games.
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>>386906179
That has literally nothing to do with what I just said.
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It seems kinda unfair they play brawl seeing as it's almost a clone of smash 4. It would be like if they played PM and melee. It really gives the smash 4 players a huge advantage. If they dropped brawl they wouldn't have to do this stupid big victory shit too.
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I feel like Zero and Wizzrobe represent the 2 different types of autism (loud, obnoxious and oblivious to their own autism vs quiet, awkward and socially inept)
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Fuck Japan for being salty ass rice cakes and not banning Meta Knight
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>>386907918
This is wrong and I doubt you've played both.
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>>386907918
>It seems kinda unfair they play brawl seeing as it's almost a clone of smash 4. It would be like if they played PM and melee. It really gives the smash 4 players a huge advantage

The Big victory slants this in the Non Smash 4 players favor. A single stock taken in Smash 4 means no Big Victory, while you need to take two stocks in one match for all others, and taking one stock in each doesn't net you anything.
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>>386907918
That would give a free victory to wizzy though because no other players in the bracket play 64.
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god brawl hits are so unsatisfying
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ZERO CHOKE
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>>386908291
fucking this

it sounds like hitting a balloon
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MY SIDE B
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>They didn't ban brawl Meta Knight
But why?
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>>386908291
I know, christ it's the one thing I hate about PM. Feels and flows nice, but the hit sounds fucking tilt me.
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our guy zero got this
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>even ZeRo's brain is rotting while playing Brawl as he keeps SDing
Brawl really was a mistake.
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O
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Whose ready for some patented Wizzy techchases?
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>>386908538
There was this one tournament that Japan didn't know that Meta Knight was banned, they they came over and stomped everyone with Meta Knight. Then everyone else got butthurt that they unbanned him.
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>>386908708
But Brawl is the most intellectual Smash game, you really need to think
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new bread
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>>386908538
>banning characters from competitive play
That's how you don't take a game seriously.
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last digit is how many stocks zero take sin melee
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>>386908919
meta knight is dumb though, so broken it's like he's from a completely different game
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>>386854782
D1 looks like a racist caricature in that webm
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>stream lagging
At least its when they are doing literally nothing.
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for fucks sake
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>ANOTHER Handwarmer.
The fuck guys?
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>>386909403
Good job we have Blur's ruleset to stop hand warmers over a minute.
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>>386908890
Yeah. Think about the choices you've made in life that caused you to end up playing it.
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new
>>386909482
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unwatchable stream
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wheres the new thread
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>>386863857
If that lil nigga gets near your shield with something unsafe you reverse upb the faggot. Sends him flying. Be careful though do it too much and he'll start baiting it and make sure you can land safely before you commit or your in for a wild ride.
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>Wizzy with that deepthroat

oh my.
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