>6 hours remember when the Order 1886 came out and everyone

>>386841570
it's $30 and it looks nice. stop complaining about everything

>>386841570
it's only 30 you stupid fuck

>>386841570
it's 30 bucks & an indie game
Order 1886 was 60 bucks & a AAA Sony funded exclusive

>>386841685
What does that matter? Why review games based on launch price? You know games don't STAY that price and this is /v/ where people pirate anything anyway. If your criticism of a game involves the MSRP I won't read it.

>>386841685
so fucking what, it's still expensive for what it is

you can get a 100h+ game for 50, and now 30 for a six hour game is a good deal? fuck off shill

>>386841570
>$30
Are you being retarded on purpose?

>>386841765
Is it indie or is it a return to AA releases?

its indiegame whit AAA graphics not AAA game whit indie lenght.

>>386841570
desu it took me about 8.
plus it's cheaper and isn't a full blown AAA title.

>>386841786
The launch price is a very important factor for judging a game.

>>386841823
Nigga not every buys games just for the amount of hours they spend on it.

Some of us like games and dont just do it to pass time.

It's not getting a pass. It's just that no one gives a shit enough to buy it and shit on it. The ones who do actually buy it get exactly what they want it to be: a walking simulator with minimal gameplay.

>>386841885
Oh also it was infinitely more interesting than steampunk victorian bullshit Order did. And wasn't as fucking generic/bland

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>>386841786
Because value, dickwad.
A great game that costs $30 and is very short is more popular than a great game that costs $60 and is short.
What a fucking surprise, huh?

>>386841786
>>386841823
18+ board

>>386841916
>walking simulator

I want /pol/ to leave

>>386841901
I don't see it, sorry.

I played Secret of Mana recently. Never played it before, loved the game desu. I didn't approach with WELL IS THIS WORTH $70 LIKE IT WAS AT TOYS R US 20 YEARS AGO. That's fucking dumb. Guess I'm just not hardcore enough.

>B-but it's only $30
I get more hours of enjoyment from 30 dollar's worth of movie tickets.

>it's only 30% so it's okay that the game is short
reddit out

>>386842042
Just play dota then if you want a shitty timesink.

Or better yet, pass ALL the time by killing yourself!

>>386842004
Can't be helped when the trailers comprise of cutscenes and walking non-stop. If it's not a walking simulator, then they did a shit job at marketing it.

>>386842139
Your post feels awfully leddit-like.

>>386841953
I really enjoyed both games. I paid $8 for The Order 1886 and $30 for Hellblade.

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>>386842187
You know a awful lot about reddit.

Maybe you should go back.

>>386841570
Because it's not 70$ ?

it's LITERALLY a meme game that's been taylor made for reddit

>>386841570
order was like 4 hours and $60 while being a sony exclusive tps without even multiplayer/coop/extra modes.
hellblade is $30 and 7 hours while made by an independent developer.

>>386842004
I watched an hour of "gameplay" earlier and it had 5-10 min of fighting and 50 min of walking with narration.

>>386842504
You dont know what walking simulator means.

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>>386842004
Shill, please.

>>386841823
I can play F2P mmos for the rest of my life and dont pay anything. What you just said is a non-argument.

if you don't enjoy these type of games don't play them.

>>386842472
what does that even mean?
Also who is this Taylor and why does he make games for reddit?

>>386842623
A game that primarily consists of walking and checking out the environment or listening to audio with minimal variety in gameplay elements to break it up.

>>386842032
A consumer product should be judged by the price at the time of release as well as the quality of the product. Many of the initial reviews for a game back then were purchased by the reviewer's cash, they had a personal investment to see if that money was spent on something that was worth it or not. Sure it's easy to look back on and judge something of the past because you took very little (or none if you pirated it) financial risk to play a game.

Would your enjoyment of the game be equally as fun if you burned 70$ right now just to play a 20 year old game? Price counts much like everything else.

I liked it

>>386841765
Sony are hacks and frauds so they deserve the hate.

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>>386841685
That's not an argument, when Ground Zeroes launch, the game was criticize by his length. (even if the game is actually long if you want the 100%, most reviewer only done the first mission. )

>>386842806
>Primarily

No.

Completely.

Hellblade
>$30 barely marketed at all
>Looks god-tier
>Sounds god-tier
>Pretty shit gameplay
Order
>$60 hyped to shit by sony
>Looks shit
>Sounds shit
>Plays like shit
>Is shit

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>>386843135
>looks shit
>sound shit

>>386842837
Whether I buy a book, go to the library, or download a PDF, it does not effect how I feel about a book.

Whether I buy a movie, rent a movie, or pirate a movie, it does not change how I feel about it.

Whether I buy on disc, buy on itunes, or pirate a album, it does not change how I feel about it.

I don't let things outside of a work affect how I feel about a work.

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>>386843135
>barely marketed

They've been hyping this shit for years. It was fucking COVERART on Goyinformer for fucks sake.

>>386841570
Because it's so progressive
>muh female
>muh mental illness

>>386842978
speak english, shitskin

>>386843347
>gaming magazines
>relevant

lol

>>386841786

You're a fucking idiot.

>>386843415
I know my english sucked but come on, you can understand that easily.

>>386843464
Can you go into detail why?

>>386843262
I'm envious of your state of mind then.

>>386842978

The game has one tiny map. Also, it's not long at all, even if you do everything, including the Raiden mission.

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>>386841823
>you can get a 100h+ game for 50, and now 30 for a six hour game is a good deal? fuck off shill

>>386843698
don't know, i have 60 hours in it and i still find the game replayabled.

>>386843135
>>Looks shit
>>Sounds shit
>>Plays like shit
this is just not true, regardless of how you feel about the game, the game looks beautiful, the sound and VA all sound great, and for what it was it played well

>>386842042
30 dollars buys you three movie tickets. Most movies are 2 hours long. Hellblade is 6 hours long.

>>386844494
>Live in an expensive ass state
>30$ only nets you two movie tickets

Fuck

because the politics are correct.

>>386842984
Bullshit.

If a game is less than 80% pure gameplay with actual mechanics it's a walking simulator.

>>386844571
>expensive ass state

Why do burgers add "ass" to everything?

>>386845238
Why do non-burgers always complain about irrelevant things instead of addressing their real problems?

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>>386842139

I'll just watch a no-commentary youtube stream and get the same experience for free instead.

>>386845324
>t. Burger currently with no healthcare and a president begging for nuclear war

>>386841786
> Why review games based on launch price?
Because you put your expectation about your product based on how much you have payed for it. No one, literally no one, would cry about NuMale Sky if it costed 5 dollars (and thus it wouldn't be marketed by Sony on E3 but whatever). If your expectations are not matched in the slightest, you're disappointed, if they're not, you're happy. It easy.

>>386841570
>$30
>Is actually good
It's not hard nigga

>>386841570

>why does [well known big budget game] have a big reaction??

dumbass

>>386845397
See here we go again, more things that had nothing to do with what I was talking about. It's like your educational system pumps you out functionally retarded. I thank the stars every day that I didn't have to grow up to be like you.

>>386845595
>t. Burger that can't even afford an education unless his family was already rather wealthy

>>386845668
Still thanking the stars with every post.

>>386843262
>>386842837
At the end of the day, price doesn't matter.

There are always alternative avenues. Unless you're talking multiplayer games where the userbase dramatically tapers off, most games shoudl not be bought at release.

>Ninja theory

Do I need to say something else?

>>386843262
You're delusional and you don't actually think that. Quality in relation to price matters and you know it.

>>386845720
"MAN THEM STUPID ASSSSSSS NON-BURGERS THO RIGHT?" - You

>>386841786
You're right.
Blood Dragon is a shit game because of how criminally short it is.

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>>386845752
>At the end of the day, price doesn't matter.
>most games shoudl not be bought at release.

>>386841831
Tameem published and developed it himself so yeah it's independent.

>>386845835
I'm sorry your upbringing has placed you into a position of being so angry at another country it ruins your ability to function, I really do. I'm still very thankful I will never be you and only you have to come to terms with that.

>>386841570
because they're not charging $60 for it

>>386846002
>>>/reddit/

>>386841570
Because sonygros didnt hype the shit out of it

>>386843262
It does matter, otherwise you would have paid someone some money to play Secret of Mana, but you didn't. You played it for free because you could.

Anyway, this whole debate is rather moot, because the intention of Video Game reviews is actually an assessment of whether or not something is worth your money. It's not to tell you if a game is a critical work of masterart, it is a buying guide. That's why reviews are made at release, and not fucking 30 years down the line, or even 6 months after the fact when it drops in price.

A video game review is another tool to inform the buyer, like a demo, gameplay videos, screenshots, interviews or pirating,
theoretically

>>386846063
That's right buddy, it's time for you to return and reflect on your actions, your country, and finally your life. You're not American, and that's okay. Do your part to fix your country and your educational system so that we don't have to come and bail you out again when you fuck up. Because this time I don't think we will help. I honestly don't want to see your country on an infomercial begging for cash so that we will feel bad enough to send you money. Nothing good comes from that, the problem starts and ends with you annon.

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I don't understand this. Why would you play a game when the main character looks THAT ugly?

>>386846331
Crash isn't much of a looker either.

>>386845896
He is right you know. Buy games after you see that are good, after people played and game their insights. On launch all information you have is from the publisher itself.

>>386841570
30$ and a gog release on top of that.

>>386841570
It didn't. 6 hours for a game of that style should cost $5.00 at MOST.

>>386845878
Not gonna lie, it's the only Far Cry game that doesn't outstay its welcome at least a little. If anything it feels a little overpacked. But it's always brilliant.

>>386845473
>Is actually good
Ya just blew it.

>>386841570
>got a pass
nigger everybody hates it here

>>386843135
>Looks god-tier
holy shit

Order devs insisted it was a 15hr game up till launch. That's why that gets shit on

>>386841786
I agree with this 100%, but I never buy games full price anyways.

It would be like if I wrote a review for some PS2 game and criticised it for being out of print and 300$ and gave it a 2/10 because of it.

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>>386841630
IF YOU JUST ENJOY THE GOOD BITS AND IGNORE THE BAD EVERYTHING IS GOOD

>>386841570
Because this one is on PC

>>386846780
"Based on launch price"

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WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS GAME SUPPOSED TO BE

Out of all the trailers and screenshots, I've seen maybe a tiny fragment of what MIGHT be gameplay. Almost everything has been this blue-faced bitch staring at the camera or VERY SLOWLY walking somewhere. I have no idea what the fuck kind of game this even is because of this shit.

This seems like a pretty fucking big red flag that this is a walking simulator with tiny sprinkles of """""gameplay""""" scattered about.

>>386846909
Yeah, I know. I was comparing two dumb (imo) hypothetical scenarios.

Basically I think it's dumb to criticise the actual product based off its price, be it launch or a later date.

Now if you wrote a review and said "It's a great 8/10 game, but personally at it's asking price I would wait for a sale or rent it", then that's acceptable to me.

It's not a full priced game.

It's not a glorified QTE.

guys, try the town of light and compare the two games, the only difference is where it happens.

>>386841786
Regardless of if you're a scumfuck pirate baby or not. The whole debacle is that people charge 60 dollars for a game that's nowhere near being worth that in terms of content. People shit on the order because it was a fully priced game with very little content, which means the developers are greedyfucks. 30 bucks for the same length sounds better and less greedy.

Is the combat challenging at all? I like the idea of a permadeath thing if you shit the bed too much, but from what I keep hearing, 99% of the game is just walking, so does it even matter?

>>386845835
OBSESSED

>>386846330
>we

>>386841570
The Order was hyped to fuck and twice as expensive.

>>386847402
>this is a walking simulator with tiny sprinkles of """""gameplay""""" scattered about

That is exactly what it is.

>>386848064
We as a country and not as a embodiment of 4chan, yes. I would say I don't understand why I have to explain this, but then I realized what country you are from.

It doesn't. This game is a walking simulator. Not even good boob physics to masturbate to while playing. 0/10 worst walking simulator ever

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>>386841685

>only 30 bucks

can somebody give me monkey island's never pay more than 20 bucks pic

>>386848289
No titties? She even looks like a gorilla too. I wanted to pick this up when it hits bargain bin, now all hope is lost.

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>>386848538
Gotta adjust friend.

>>386847861
There's no permadeath, the game lies to you.

>>386848608
What? But weren't a bunch of media people crying about it? Everyone just got trolled by the game?

>>386848273
>We as a country
i know. it's retarded to say that as if you matter at all in the decision making process or the execution or any other aspect really. i mean you may or may not identify with your country but that really doesn't mean shit.

Is the dialogue in this one similar to the Shakespearean quality of Donte's game?

>>386841570
Why does everyone have a playtime fetish on this board?

A 5 hour great game worth playing multiple times is better than a 10 hour game barely worth playing once.

>>386842984
No. Primarily. When you spend 7 and a half of the 8 hours walking around looking at the environment, then it's a walking simulator.

>>386848650
Yep, they got trolled.

>>386848836
because spending 60 dollary doo's on 5 hours worth of entertainment is a rip off

Because I pirated it so I don't give a fuck, I don't want 50 hour games from devs like Ninja Theory because I know they can't make something that will maintain my interest for that long.

>>386841570
>how come this got a pass
its free on PC

>>386848650
It's a game about mental illness with a lot of psychological themes so they used the oldest psych trick in the book and lied to people to put them on edge. Not a bad trick honestly, funny to see people who play video games all the time (or even for a living) crying about a mechanic scaring them.

>>386841570
Because it's a half-price game, you shit-eating faggot.

>>386847402
It's a 3rd person listening to whispers and lore simulator.
Every now and then it is a bam-ham combat game.
It also has 'position yourself in such a way that stuff makes rune shapes' puzzles to open doors.
The story is quite compelling, but they have gone a little overboard on the psychosis thing.
I've had psychotic episodes due to bad epilepsy medication and never have they been so... Annoying.
That said, I've enjoyed the first 4 or so hours, even if it's very repetitive and there is a clear distinction between walking, puzzles and fighting sections.
I hate the protagonist's hair, but I like how expressive her face is.
Plus she looks like my ex (but with a horrible hairdo) so that helps somewhat.
I'd say it's a solid 7/10 but only since I pirated it because I'm a scumbag

>>386841570
>over-the-shoulder camera
>into the trash it goes

>>386841823
And a movie ticket is 15 bucks for 1.75 hours. I still do it.

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Look
The game offers something different that Order 1886 could never do.
At this time and age when everyone has experienced almost everything, "something new" is enough of a hook.

Also props for the main actress because god does she pull off the "pathetic, thousand yard stare" well.

>>386841570
it's cheap and it looks pretty, perfect for lowest common denominator.
They are okay with mediocrity

>>386841570
It's not 6h, beat it at 4. It's good looking but it's shit.

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>>386847402
this + the walking simulator they told you about

>>386852929
This, it's nothing more than a graphics showcase.

It doesn't get a pass faggot. Short as fuck, obnoxious "puzzles", shit combat that is filler,shit story. It's tipical Tameem Ninja Theory shit.
If you like it shoot yourself in the head.

>>386854193
Frankly, it's been far too long since we've had one of those anyway. Not that it becomes a great game because of that, but at least it's fairly nice to see a developer doing the whole TECHNOLOGY thing again.

>>386841630
not to mention its 12 gb. Op is a fag

So.
Was it all in her head or did she actually go the hell?

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>>386854517
edgy af

>>386841570
prolly something to do with the fact that it's not a flagshit game of a DOA-console, and was made by mere 13 people?

>>386841570
the human eye can't see more than 6 hours anyway

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>>386854941

Lovely opinion fag. It's a shit "game", could have been a decent movie.

Senua
Sera
Nu-lara

The three most beautiful female vidya characters to exist.

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>>386848528
You might as well buy thimbleweed park
It's not more than 20 bucks ;)

>shitty action game with IT WAS ALL IN YOUR HEAD THE WHOLE TIME story
>ninja theory
who cares

>>386841570
6 hours is the standard length for the average single player game.

Why is she so ugly, Jesus Christ?

A literal derp face mouthbreather ginger.

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Tameem "No Fun" Andonlades always gets a free pass.

>>386841863
You need to relearn how the letter H works

>>386841570
>how come this got a pass?
Female protagonist.

>>386856593
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
I shouldn't be surprised the video game industry is so shit when people actually believe this. "Standard" length? What, are you taking the average between the first Mario Bros. and Gone Home? Between the COD 4 campaign and a game of checkers?

>>386841570

>$29 game
>average single player game length

Seems like the only people butthurt about this game are the eurocucks who worked on Horizon and the numale trash who bought it because they just got blown out of the water with their AAA garbage by a small studio's game that looks, sounds, and plays better.

>>386843858
Blood dragon was dam good

>>386841685
It's just not good that they shovel pieces of shit all the time. You can defend it, but that just makes you a fag

This board needs to stop whining so fucking much about pricing and getting down to piracy like every other entertainment board. You don't see the retards on /tv/ complaining about a bluray costing $30 because they just pirated the movie, it's almost assumed that's how they got it. I know you're all poor as fuck otherwise you wouldn't be whining about $30, so just pirate and judge the game instead of complaining about value like a kyke at the baby foreskin shop.

>>386841630
THIS HOW DARE YOU CRITICISE ANYTHING
WE DID IT REDDIT

>>386858603
>poor people arguments
lel

>>386841630
>>386841685
>>386841765
fuck off shills

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>>386859734
...what?

>>386859981
you're poor and retarded is what i meant.

>>386841570
It's not supposed to be a system seller Like Order 1886 was, so no hype and no bait potential. Also, nobody gives many fucks about the game, so no sense getting agitated over its length. If you're talking about why it gets a pass from the press, it's because of "muh innovative depiction of mental disorders and no-UI-design", so it speaks to their inner game-is-art cravings.

>>386860114
I'm not that anon, I'm just wondering what the fuck a "poor people argument" is. Like, rich people are usually good with money, and don't spend it on frivolous shit. A poor person's argument would be convincing someone to splurge.

Alright everyone shut the fuck up.
Is it true playing with headphones is the best even compared to sound systems?
Like what things do you hear differently or whatever..
I have someone that wants to play this with me and can have the setup where sound goes through my speakers and headphones. Wondering if it would matter that much to play only on speakers

>>386841570
Because most of the time you're actually playing the game?

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>>386841786
The game being too short is only a valid argument if you believe that it's too short relative to its price. A 6 hour game for $60 is atrocious, a 6 hour game for $30 is not.

>>386859948
>asks people why this game is allowed
>several people bring up a reasonable point
>s-shills!
stop doing this

>>386841570
>muh female protagonist
>muh mental health issues

>>386841570
It's half the price also
Made by much less staff.

>>386860481
I played 30 minutes of it with headphones on, and I think they just want to flaunt the binaural audio. It's like virtual barber shop, but with your psychotic inner monologue.

>>386858721
Console friends meemed "supporting muh devs" into oblivion and people bought it. While I'll probably pirate or borrow this game from a friend, I'll end up buying this if it's good, but this concept is alien to some people.

>>386841570
ofc it's okay because it's not ps4 exclusive, just look at all this pc faggots that literally eating shit with pubg and this ninja theory's game
It's fucked

>>386844494
30 dollars barely gets you a movie cause you have to for your girl and get her the most drink combo

>>386841823
Plot-driven games are less like the toy-like games that you seem to bat around until you get bored of them/they're superseded by something shinier.

>>386842095
>30%
>%
Are you blind or just pretending to be retarded?

>>386841570
It is $30/£25.

The Order was $60/£50.

KYS

>that music during the surt fight
W E W

Pretty gud game so far, though I can already see what the twist will be.

Causer no one even gives a shit about this game. I didn't even know it was a thing until 2 weeks before it came out, and I still dont even know what kind of game it is.

this nigbass mouth of sauron voice is fucking sick

>>386841570
>6 hours
Because 6 is quite enough.
All Platinum games are short as fuck, par Nier Automata. Not to mention CoD campaigns are about 3 hours long.

>playing through this game now
>playing on hard
>probably near the end as I've already opened the door and crossed the bridge
>I only died once in combat, and it was only because I didn't realize there was a down but not out mechanic

I'm not one of those faggots that needs a game to grind me into dust to have a good time, but I can't even begin to imagine how easy the lower difficulty levels must be.

Cool audio, though. Game would have good atmosphere if everything didn't feel so sterile and forced.

>30 bucks is ok for 6 hours

Sure is shilly in here today...

>>386870864
You're forgetting that's pretty much standard for linear AAA games

>>386860114
And your a faggot and faggy is what I ment

>>386870421
The difference is the gameplay exists for those games, they aren't walking simulators (even COD).

>>386841570
It's also not full price so it's a little better.

If I paid 60$ and got a 6 hour game? I'd be a little more upset.

>>386867214
But any JRPG is a story-driven game and is much longer than 6 hours.

>>386870972

That is an argument against AAA games, not in defense of this one. The fact that something else is shit doesn't justify this to be shit.

COD is 3 hours "long", MGRevengeance is 4 hours etc.

>>386845127
Walking is a mechanic, fuckwitt, by your own definition Gone Homo is a complete, proper game

>>386874259
>Walking is a mechanic
We've reached this point, huh?

Because Order 1886 literally ended basically in the middle of the story on a cliffhanger

>>386874015
>Revengeance is 4 hours

Did you skip every cutscene and not listen to the codec at all? Revengeance is as long as any other MG game.

Hellblade is shit.

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>>386841570

I like this game. As someone with chronic autism I can relate to the Senua

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>Good soundtrack
>Great visuals and setting
>Okay representation of mental illness
>Combat is simple but flashy
>Game ends before it becomes tired/played out
>Story is meh
>Puzzles are too simple
>Andy Serkis and Ninja Theory are apparently joined at the hip, they don't mocap him just use real life footage which looks strange

It's a solid 6/10, enjoyable experience. Fenrir fight is the highlight.

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>>386875161