Metal Gear

I honestly keep forgetting this is even a thing.

>>386838229
Why name it metal gear which is political intrigue ?

why why WHY did they convert this into a shitty zombie survival crafting game and not just keep the same MGSV setup but with 4 player co-op?

ironically it would've taken less effort to just copy/paste MGSV's Afghanistan/Africa, add more free roam patrols, bases and equipment, and just let people drop in to operate how they please

It was shown at this years e3 in a more playable state so it's still in development.
Only issue is no one cared about it and Konami is completely lost on how to market a game no one wants.

>>386838325
To get more money and exposure

>>386838427
It was? I don't remember coming across any videos about it at all.

>>386838351
THATS THE WORLD WE FUCKING LIVE IN NOW OKAY JUST FUCKING HANDLE THAT
SUCK MY DICK HARDER FORGET ABOUT ZONE OF THE ENDERS MAKE MORE MYSTICAL MIND FUCK CRAP ART AMIRITE
WATCH ME ZAG HERE IS THE BULLSHIT YOU LOVED BUT WITH MORE BULLSHIT YOU LOVE AN OKAY GAME BUT NOW WITH ZOMBIES JUST LIKE THAT OTHER GAME WE MAKE FULL OF ZOMBIES

>ironically it would've taken less effort to just copy/paste MGSV's Afghanistan/Africa, add more free roam patrols, bases and equipment, and just let people drop in to operate how they please

I HAVE A FEELING THEY WENT THE OTHER WAY AND JUST RESKINED RESIDENT EVIL BLACK OPS 3

>>386838229
Delayed to early 2018 so dev's can "Polish" it more, which really means discuss the point of releasing following such lackluster attention and harsh criticism. There is no hope for whatever garbage fire they are trying to they are trying to start here.

Looks like a mod that was supposed to be in the final product, rather than a 30$ expansion. Don't really feel that replaying Afghanistan is that worth it.
Is there any other spin-off in the saga that is as good as Rising?

>>386838825
AC!Ds and Ghost Babel

>>386838514
It was a private demo and apparently only people from some literally who tier sites were invited.

>>386839090
But... why? What's the point of keeping it under wraps when the game is already announced? Shouldn't they be pushing for media coverage?

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>>386839205
>Shouldn't they be pushing for media coverage?

With all the backlash they got from just an announcement, I doubt that would be the best idea, I wouldn't be surprised if they scrapped it. The game itself is taking an idea that was introduced in TPP and running with it using a vast majority of its assets. There isn't much of a loss.

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>>386839861

So where do you guys think Metal Gear should go at this point?

Personally It had a good run, but I think its time to put 'er down.

>>386839978
>So where do you guys think Metal Gear should go at this point?
Complete reboot. Just wipe the slate clean and start over.

>>386838351
Wait, it's a crafting game?
I thought it was gonna be another boring metal gear online clone.
I'm a bit more interested now.

>>386839978
I don't think it needs to go anywhere anymore. We've had tons of games in the series and the creator already left. Just make something else entirely. The industry could use some new IPs. I wouldn't mind a spiritual successor to MGS, a tactical espionage action game in a different setting with all new characters.

>>386838351
>why why WHY did they convert this into a shitty zombie survival crafting game and not just keep the same MGSV setup but with 4 player co-op?

Think about how complex the enemy AI is in MGSV, now think about all the extra work of having that AI be aware of 4 players, NOW think about how much EASIER it would be to just program braindead zombies for Co-op gameplay!

Also Zombie Survival are what the kids love these days.

>>386840015
No
>>386839978
Konami needs to let the developer of Shadow Moses complete his work, maybe even lend some developers to shine it up more and then release it as a remaster for $19.99 on digital download. If that doesn't cut it, they need to do a full Fox Engine remaster. It just infuriates me that the developer of Shadow Moses was so close to finishing before Konami shut that shit down.

As far as sequels, prequels, no more. The series is finished. It came full circle (Minus the cut chapter of TPP).

>>386839978
Konami needs to sell it so they can fuck off from the videogame industry already.

>>386838229
Could be worse, could be the dota card game

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>>386840339
>Shadow Moses

Whaaaaaa? Explain.

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>>386840015
>>386840174
>Spiritual successor/reboot with Fukushima at the helm

>>386840426
There was a fanmade remake of MG1 in the works but Konami shut it down

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>>386839978
>So where do you guys think Metal Gear should go at this point?

Best case scenario? Bring in some up and coming game director with an unique sense of style. Soft-reboot Metal Gear, drop the Solid name, all new story, all new cast etc etc; possibly a cameo or two.

Expand on the Fox Engine and MGSV gameplay but make it very clear that this is not a Hideo Kojima game, embrace the fact that it's a new director with a new style, get meta with it.

>>386840426
It is exactly what it sounds like. It was a fan-made, Ground up remake some guy was making. I wanna say he was using Unreal to make it but I could be wrong. Anyways, he put up a trailer that got alot of love minus some of the kinks that were still being worked out, but Konami caught wind of it and shut that shit down. That was the rumor anyway.

>>386840517
*MGS1, my bad

>>386838351
Because puppet soldiers and Kojimbo would've done this to requite money anyway. Kek "MGS is about political fiction where do Zombies fit into that?" HA HA HARRR You slanty eyed fuck up, you have been fucking this series up for almost 20 years and I'll tell you where zombies fit in, right beside puppet soldiers you absolute fuck up. I have been with this man for nearly 20 years of my life and bought up every bit of shit he served from fucking us in the face with some twink VR simulation possibility to fucking Nanomachines and then to a terrible exploration into the life of Big Boss and I still love this pile of shit, I love it like it is a part of me but I am so glad to see him gone and look forward to what Konami will do if there Pachinko bull is more than just a middle finger to us. Get ready for MGS3 Remaster, the actual prequel to 4 that shitty Rising was meant to be where we see Raiden rescue Sonny, get ready for the bridge between V and the Metal Gears we were promised over the past 5 years and get mother fucking ready for Metal Gear one and two REMAKES hell yeah! I am looking forward to Stranding but it will probably only be out in 5 years, full of celebrity crushes and have a bullshit convoluted story that will need to be damage controlled in a sequuel KEKKERS

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>>386840584
>get ready for the bridge between V and the Metal Gears we were promised over the past 5 years

You mean Peace Walker?

>>386840584
I'm not as hyped as you but I'm slightly optimistic to see what Konami will do with the series.

>>386840547
About to start MGSV, something that always bugged me in threads about this game is THAT FUCKING HORN YOU GET FOR KILLING.

Tell me how easy is it to get that ugly horn and can you get rid of it.

>>386838351
Because the entire thing reeks of being designed by a committee throwing in random popular shit in video games. Basically, pretty much what I expected would happen after they got rid of Kojima.

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>>386839978
>tfw Metal Gear has been dead since 2001
Can we finally bury it?

>>386840814
There is no bridge between 5 and the other metal gears because 5 IS the fucking bridge. It literally gives us the phantom that is later killed by snake in the original MG. The only thing missing is 5's last act that was cut, which only explained the fate of Sahalanthropis, and how Liquid/Psycho Mantis survived.

MGSV would have been so much better if shit ever happened in the world. It unironically could've taken a queue from Far Cry; Having patrols everywhere and constantly running into enemies and skirmishes. Fucking hell what wasted potential for such fluid gameplay.

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>>386839954

>>386840865
You can't. You restart the game and try again. It is your form of Karma. Metal Gear Solid has always been a stealth action series, killing was never a necessity.

>>386841070
>It literally gives us the phantom that is later killed by snake in the original MG
Were people really so stumped by this event that it needed an entire game dedicated to explaining it? I was always fine with the prospect of BB just surviving the fight and needing some cyborg enhancements. I mean, more ridiculous shit has happened in the series.

>>386840865
Everything that could be considered evil gives you demon points, shooting a person gives you demon points while burning a person alive gives more demon points etc etc. Good deeds such as saving soldiers with fultons or collecting animals reduce it, same logic applies, saving children reduces demon points a lot.

It's very hard to get bloody demon Snake unless you murder literally everybody and never Fulton. Though developing a nuke will give you 5000 demon points and transform you instantly.

>>386840547
I like this idea. Shinakawa has jumped ship with Kojimbo though, so the design direction of MGS would be gone and that's like 50% of the series' charm gone.

Better to let the series die.

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>>386841157
>Were people really so stumped by this event that it needed an entire game dedicated to explaining it?

That's not really the point though. Big Boss's willingness to go along with the doppelganger shows us that he has now become the man he hated at the end of MGS3. A schemer willing to exploit loyal soldiers.

Venom Snake also being more heroic than Big Boss basically shows us that he was always kind of a sociopath.

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Let's face it, without Kojima, everything is ruined.

Care to think of any examples where a game does good without it's original directors?

>>386842246
Metal Gear Rising

>>386842246
Are you dumb? There's tons. Sonic Mania is literally right at your face, including >>386842331

>>386842246
>Care to think of any examples where a game does good without it's original directors?

Devil May Cry 3 and 4

>>386839978
Start a new timeline continuing from Metal Gear Solid V

>>386842331
not him but they had Platinum Games making it so it's cheating

>>386842246
DMC3/4

>>386842246
Assassins Creed 2.
Bioshock 2.

>>386842447
>>386842641
They did have a really shitty first game through 2 though.

>>386840814
Peace Walker is the bridge between 3 and V I am talking about between V and Metal Gear dummy.
>>386841070
>>386841157
The point of V was always to bridge the gap between V and Metal Gear 1, an explanation and story as to what the sons go through. The whole Venom thing was just another shoe horned load of convoluted shit that no one really needed. I mean for fucks sake they already explained he had a doppleganger in MGS4. The 'missing link' we were promised was a conclusive end to how the fuck Solid and Liquid got to be where they are. Solid Snake has always been the protagonist and pioneer of this series but Kojima hated him while also conversely saying he should not have killed liquid off so quickly but noo we have to have a bunch of shitty, and let's face it, poorly written psp games that suck because he wants to put in as little effort as possible into the franchise now; shitty cut scenes now(PO,PW,V), Even more of a comic relief of a cast no one would ever take seriously and shitty shoe horned fan service that's barely even subtle now. I am sick of the man and what he has done but equivocally enchanted, that's all very superficial though; kek fake studios and teasing Snake in gameplay he won't ever be in MUH META DEEP. I wanted an expansion for Big Boss' storie and mechanical it was almost perfect (micromanagement of your own mercenaries and that mgs4 balance of action game with a stealth core) but story was it was fucking shit and I may aswell just make up my own story for him while forgetting Portable Ops, Peace Walker and Metal Gear solid V.

>>386843250
I am 23 by the way, just sperging out really hard because I do genuinely love this franchise.. I can't really cohesively explain my points like a rational person. I cry watching Big Boss meeting David in the grave yard for fucks sake. Sage

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Building Outer Heaven and collecting the bosses from the first game would be awesome,

Dying to Solid Snek would be a cool ending too

>>386840249
>Zombie Survival are what the kids love these days.
Maybe if "these days" were back in 2013

Imagine being a "fan" and not getting the point of the series this hard

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>>386842331
Kojima was involved in writing story treatments for that though.

>>386843534
This should have been MGSV.When I heard Afghan that's what I thought was going on.
>>386843723
Try 2008 wtf.

>Phantom pain
>Everything in the story has something missing
>Every explanation has something missing
>Chapter 3 missing
>Sehalanthropus taken by psycho mantis and liquid missing explanation
>peace walker ai pod is sat there still for no reason feels unfinished
>battlegear is fucking tash and has no customization like zeke did (missing)
>snake slither crawl is missing
>camo index is missing have to guess how camo'd you are
>health bar missing
>stamina bar missing
>burning man is locked on quarantine bay but nothing happens with him after missing

Hmm really makes you think

>>386843250
>The point of V was always to bridge the gap between V and Metal Gear 1.

No it wasn't, portable ops, peace walker and MGSV were all marketed as "The Missing Link that Completes the Saga!"

Kojima has always loved fucking with his fans. Which is why both MGS2 and MGS3 was marketed as being about Solid Snake. Like ok it's understandable if you got mad over Raiden but that was over 15 years ago now and people should've learned.

>>386838229
Day 1 buy Tbh

>>386844212
same

>>386838229
>Did Konami sweep this under the rug?

No, he has nothing to do with that shit. They even asked him in a interview and he said hells no.

>>386838229
They're probably retooling it to integrate aspects of PUBG

>>386844345
Anon?

>>386844143
So you're saying it isn't just because he's been bullshitting? Nah sozzo but MGSV was meant to conclusively tie all the series in one finality but it didn't. I'm not assblasted about Raiden I'm just using him as an example of Kojimbo's faux-mystery bs.

>>386844384
you haven't heard of Judeo Konami, creator of Metal Gear Solid?

>>386839978
Sell it back to Kojima with the FOX engine so it can have a proper burial and Kojima can be free to use the engine on whatever he wants.

>that apparently exists.
Man, I am out in touch. I only heard about it once a year ago and never ever since.

>>386844656
>Nah sozzo but MGSV was meant to conclusively tie all the series in one finality but it didn't.

Yeah, just like how MGS2 was supposed the be the final game.
And then MGS3
And then MGS4
And so on.

>>386845374
How deluded are you Anon? There had to be one specific game based on building Outer Heaven and how Solid Snake & Liquid were affiliated/involved. Literally none of those games could have done that. You're just bringing up games that he said would be the last, not the 'missing link'.

>>386839978
Into the trash

>>386845556
>There had to be
No, there didn't.

>>386845870
Right yeah because we're just meant to go along with some scintilla of information about their pasts without actually ever seeing their growth or training, missions that led up to their games. Liquid and Solids pasts are FAR less fleshed out than Boss' because Kojimbo was done with Snek and that's bull.

>>386842246
Even with Kojima, everything is ruined.

>>386844143
That's what makes him a shitty writer though, it's like his sole purpose is to fuck with fans, it worked great with mgs2 because that was the purpose of the game itself and you could feel it throughout the whole experience, expecially replaying it, everything was built around the concept of "fucking with the fans" then he became a parody of himself, writing stuff just for the fuck of it, thinking that every plottwist is brilliant writing, IE Venom and "words that kill".
Mind you I'm not shitting on Venom because "I'm not playing Big Boss", I'm shitting on him because it could've been a good concept if executed properly, the Paz scenes are a good example to prove it, it could've been the story of a fucked up individual filled with guilt of not saving everyone and conflicting memories that decides to play along with the role that was vomited upon him by Big Boss, thus making him evil in the eye of the player, and all we got was a mute horned bastard.

>>386845556
Why make a prequel story if there's nothing to add?

TPP was a jumbled unfinished mess but it does a good job of establishing just how far Big Boss has fallen from The Boss's vision in an interesting way. Venom Snake as a character is infinitely more interesting than just seeing an evil Big Boss.

>>386839978
MGR2 OR BUST

>>386846453
>Venom Snake as a character is infinitely more interesting than just seeing an evil Big Boss.

How? Venom barely emotes or even speaks much during the game.

should've ended at MGS2

>>386846813
Agreed. The AI speech at the end was the pinnacle of Kojima's writing.

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>>386846453
Because there's an entire past to Solid and Liquid yuh dingus, how they came to the position of taking down BB. Also >>386846573 is so fucking right, all these cucklets who claim Venom is more interesting are just plain delusional. The medic was never even mentioned until now and for me personally was a cheap crack at having some personality vacant Kiefer Sutherland. Kojimbo has been losing his grip on fleshing out characters with their charm, quips and mystery. Everyone in PP just seems to be a shell of their former selves, ghosts.

>>386846813
I agree

>>386846573
>How? Venom barely emotes or even speaks much during the game.

Because he doesn't need to, it's his actions in contrast to Big Boss that makes him interesting. The whole point of his character is the twisted irony that a doppelganger is more like the real Big Boss than Big Boss himself. He's a hero.

Big Boss throws MSF under the bus. Venom Snake mourns Diamond Dogs.
Big Boss creates child soldiers. Venom Snake saves them.
Big Boss wants constant conflict. Venom Snake goes out to disarm nukes.

That's the point of the whole story. Venom Snake acts like the badass Hero people think Big Boss is; while the REAL Big Boss is all like "Fuck The Boss and fuck peace I'm gonna keep killing people because that's the only thing I'm good at."

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>>386846813
But then we would've never gotten the masterpiece that is 3

>>386842246
Max Payne 3
DMC3/4
Metal Gear Ac!d
Resident Evil Revelations I'd say also

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Dailry reminder that none of this shit would have happened if they ended Metal Gear with 4.
The series has been jumping the shark ever since Kojimbo thought Big Boss was a better MC than Solid, MGSV and Survive are only products of his stupid decisions

>>386847814
MGS 4 was shit, get over yourself.

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>>386847316
This load of crap is so subjective.
>Both of them built their own new versions of MSF, you don't know that BB doesn't mourn the loss of his soldiers.
>Who cares about child soldiers kek? This makes venom less like BB
>Venom snake is subjective and is you, if you want to harbour shit tons of nukes and be a demon you can

Stop deluding yourself and go play some other MGS games.
also >He's an hero

>>386841141
DD!

>>386838229
I hope so, fucking embarrassment.

>>386847871
At least it's not a zombie game or unfinished

>>386847814
Speaking of 4, why did Snake fire the gun after he took it out of his mouth?

>>386847316
The whole child soldier thing is so ambiguous. Just because you can put Chico in the combat unit does not mean Big Boss wanted to force children to fight in combat.

>>386838229
Kojima is a hypocrite. Criticises this work for the zombie content, while he had 'vocal parasite' zombies in his last metal gear game.

I'm not defending Survive I just think Kojima is a hack.

>>386838229
They want to show this disaster on GamesCom this year (you can even play it). I'm going to check it out, just to shitpost about it later on.

I remember watching a video about this game where guy talked about this whole thing being underwater with fish and whales floating around.

>>386848135
He missed it on purpose

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>make a horrible game on purpose
>nobody likes it
>"See? No interest in video game, we make pachinko machine now"

>>386848414
But I mean he wasn't going to kill himself. It's not like he yanked the gun away at the last possible instant. He consciously took the gun out of his mouth and then pulled the trigger for no reason at all.

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>>386838229
Honestly metal gear survive would be fun it's been a while since we had a good zombie game and fox engine would be good for a survival game, playing mgs5 and going back to dayz feels horrible.

The series needs to die. No HD remakes, no sequels and no spin-offs. Legacy collection re-release on next-gen and steam is probably impossible because of MGS4 being an exclusive. If they do it, that would be the best they can do for fans. MGR sequel is okay though.

>>386839978
Metal Gear Liquid about Liquid, Mantis and the child soldiers.

>>386839978
I just want more side ops.

>>386848562
You know when in movies it looks like person A will shoot person B but they change their mind and shoot somewhere else instead?
It's kinda like that, it's meant to imply that Snake wasted the bullet to prevent another suicide attempt should he reconsider

>>386848920
Fucking this.

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>>386846348
>Venom never really went nuclear

>>386840865
If on PC you can mod it out no problem.

>>386848160
>does not mean Big Boss wanted to force children to fight in combat.

He literally goes on to use child soldiers though.

>>386844345
>Konami
>Kojima
Not the same, anon.

>>386848287
>I just think Kojima is a hack.
Im sure Kojima will not be able to sleep anon, cant you understand how important your opinion is to Kojima? You heartless bastard!!!

>>386842246
Prey
>>386843534
This. It was so obvious. First half has you building mother base as venom. Second half has you playing as Solid Snake infiltrating your own base, reveals mother base became MG1 outer heaven, final boss fight with venom, job done.

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>>386849836
He rescues children, brings them to Zanzibar Land but it is never disclosed as to whether they are used, while being children, to fight. It's just said that they will fight in future wars. The children look up to Big Boss as a father figure. Fucking please...

>>386846887
That's pathetic then.

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>>386849679
>Filename is your Steam name

>>386849928
doesnt matter, the guy is clearly scum.

>>386838229
it will be playable at gamescom

>>386840339
why do you put the blame on konami, that guy wasn't able to code the enemies AI, he've just made some animations and 3d models that's all, he wouldn't ever been able to make a real game

>>386847964
Except this tape is in the code of the game and most likely unlocked after all nukes have been dissarmed.

https://youtu.be/z2TeGbNIm-E

Venom Snake literally talks to The Boss about how one day there will no longer be a need for people like him. And then he chuckles when he say "I, I mean we-would have wanted."

He's literally opposing the ideology of Big Boss, who wanted nothing but constant war until the end of MGS4. Venom Snake, much like Solid Snake, is the true successor to The Boss.

>>386850686
>Big Boss, who wanted nothing but constant war

So you know fighting injustice during PW for the militants was propagating war? Big Bosses only true motive was to create an army/organisation where soldiers aren't used as pawns in a countries political conflict. Venom just seems to be going along with a very similar ideology to Big Boss, 'another mission', while also being a subjective vector for us to indulge a role that we would see fit and that's where being able to be a demon and make shit tons of nukes comes into it. My point is that the medic is us and when we are transformed into Venom we have a choice to play as we want. When you indiscriminately slaughter combatants you're soldiers will comment about how 'Boss is just killing loads of people' meaning they wouldn't even have expected that from Big Boss seeing as they believe Venom to be the real Big Boss. Big Boss is not nearly as skewed from The Boss's plan or as much of a demon as people make out.

>all this nonsense
I just want to play games, /v/

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>>386852354
It's Metal Gear, the nonsense is part of the appeal.

>>386850374
It's probably the same demo they had almost a year ago.

>>386839978
There's nothing to add, the story is completed, without it's former writer and team it's pointless(even mgsv was pointless beacause it didin't really add nothing to the story). It was good but right now it just only need to rest forever with a somewhat good memories.

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>>386839090
Funny thing, YongYea was invited to it (he said several times in the past he hates the game) so he decided to show up with a Death Stranding t-shirt.

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>>386842246
>without Kojima, everything is ruined
>the last 2 good Metal Gear games were made without Kojima(MPO and Rising)

>>386853054
>shows up to an exclusive Konami demo with a Death Stranding T-shirt

The balls on this man

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>>386842246
>Everything starts to go downhill when Fukushima leaved Konami.

>>386841148
>killing was never a necessity.
fake news

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>>386853153
>PO

You jest, but I'm actually rather fond of it.

>>386842246
>Let's face it, without Kojima, everything is ruined.
Kojinigger hack fraud already ruined everything.

The only reason why you bought 5 after the turd that was called 4 is that you just love sucking his cock.

>>386851376
Yes, Venom Snake is a player avatar; but since nuclear dissarment actually has more story related content it's only fair to assume Good Venom Snake as the canon choice.

Venom follows Big Boss, but he does so because he considers BB to ultimately be good, which is why Venom Snake is ultimately good. It's not until the very end that we see Venom Snake displeased with the notion. Which is why he crushes the demon, ie his inner guilt, and left is only Big Boss.

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>>386838351
>why why WHY did they convert this into a shitty zombie survival
God demanded it.

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>>386853319
>tfw Fukushima has ghost credits as a SCEJ employee in The Tomorrow Children and Freedom Wars

>>386853641
>The Tomorrow Children
Huh. So he is still alive.

>>386853054
What a fucking edgelord.

>>386853530
Nuclear disarment doesn't exactly seem like canon and offers little to do with the story really. Not to mentioned Venom also goes on to still make the TX-55 Metal Gear which I'm fairly certain also launches nukes so er, Venom isn't 'good' so to speak. He still owns several variations of private armies and profits from conflict. You're comparing them but he's only a very slightly lesser of two technical evils. Realisticly I think the ending is actually showing us that he's happy being a doppleganger.

>>386853168
No, he's just being an edgelord like a 14 year old in the early 00s, not "having balls"

>>386853054
>said at the time that he didn't realize that he was wearing that t-shirt and the american reps didn't mind it.
you knew exactly what you were doing at the time you hiroshima looking fuck also
>shill this cunts channel
pathetic desu.

>>386854118
>nuclear disarmament doesn't seem like canon
except that there were no nukes in the world by mg2

>>386838325
Same reason why they released MGSV. To bait lowest common denominator morons into buying their game that has a good reputation behind it, impressing them with Le epic superior gameplay meme and have these idiots defend their unfinished, NOT metal gear game for them.

It's fucking genius. You can essentially butcher any classic and STILL have fucking shills defending it and shaming the regular/veteran Fanbase for being "nostalgia faggots". Bitch fucking please.

386854508
>Le epic superior gameplay meme
nice bait

>>386854497
Not only do I think that's untrue but in Metal Gear one, that game in-between V and MG2, the TX-55, that Venom would have created, was armed and equipped to launch nukes. So it's not canon, plus if you want to be pedantic about a mechanic and claim it's canon then 'technically' there's still loads of nukes across formats so as far as canon is concerned, in your mind, nukes still exist. Allegedly when a platform gets rid of all of their nukes there's a hidden mission but someone on here said that so pinch of salt.

>>386854925
So basically Anon claimed there's a hidden mission when 360, PS3 and 4, Xbox One get rid of all of their nukes just to be clear. He reckons there's supposed to be some triggering for a download that someone found but there's no proof of that anywhere.

>>386839978
Keep going with the rising series
No more prequels and no more snakes. Just Raiden doing his thing.

>>386854696
Nice reply.

And the game is a like if you modded Far cry, essentially the same shit you're doing. Repetitively. And stealth isn't even a mandatory thing anymore. Who the fuck plays through any of the originals or even (god forbid) 4 and then says that MSGV is either equal or BETTER than any of these fucking predecessors.

This is the evil we get when people obsess over gameplay being the only thing that matters. its just as bad as people wanting movies instead of vidoegamses

>>386843889
Not really. He just approved the script, that's all.

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>>386839978
you already know

>>386854925
I'm just saying that the mg2 backstory included complete nuclear non-poliferation, how it fits into kojima's spiderweb of retcons isn't something I'm going to waste effort on.

386855184
nice (You), thanks :^)

>>386838302
so does konami

>>386855346
This.

Without Kojima, this is the only direction that can work, and even Kojima fumbled the last installment.

>>386855346
I want it so bad

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>>386855362
>spiderweb of retcons
How fucking dense are you son? I'll break this down for you
>Outer Heaven
>Run by Venom
>Make big robot
>Big robot launch nuke
>Nuclear disarmament not canon

>>386840174
Agreed.

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>>386855346
I need more

>>386840756
this

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>>386855346

>>386839978
Nowhere, I hope it dies, and I hope MG Survive finishes it off.

>>386849928
why do you anonymously defend this hack after everything he has done?

>>386855346
Go on....

>>386852992
This.
Nothing should last forever.
Put down that gun, it's over.

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>>386853739
>mfw if had worked even on MGSV that shithead of Kojimbo would be ass-blasted even during the development of MGSG4, and God know how fucking good could had be the end of the series.
>Instead we have tha fuckin hack who literally put stupid and obvious references of western culture everywhere, need to explain everything destroying that aura of mystery that always have been present in the series and fucking retarded bimbo animu scenes, and he literally became untouchable and a semi-god

>>386858245
I love how fatass kojimadrones unironically imply previous MGS had good stories.
Can't wait for MG Survive to piss all over the legacy of this cancerous franchise.

Be honest /v/;
Have you even played a single MGS game before hopping onto the thread?

>>386858893
Every single one except for the phone games.

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>>386858392
>being this pathetic
Try playing a few of em' some time kiddo, V has good controls but if you want a taste of the story and political drama ole Kojimba is capable of you gotta' play something else ^ __ ^"

>>386859968
I have, Kojima is incapable of telling any story that isn't a convoluted turd full of ebin references to movies he once watched.
MGS is dead and nobody cares, in fact, even fanboys cherish that it's dead now.

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>>386860080
>Trying this hard to speak for people to back up his points
>t. dense as a cartoon of bleach
It's enchanting to see someone so assblasted because none of his games have sort of a decent story let alone sly references to bulk things up. You should stick to Kingdom Hearts lass.

>>386860464
MGS is precisely a cancer for forcing the idea that plots in videogames matter.
It's demise can only bring good things to the industry, just like how Kojima finally retiring will bring more good.

>>386839978
Reboot.
Fukushima in the driver's seat.

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>>386860537
Hahaha okay 'now' yah' trolling lass. Have a good one!

>>386860858
Or better yet, let it die.

>>386854508
I don't know man, the first 15-20 hours or so of MGSV I felt like I was playing the best game in history, of course it was a fucking letdown realizing it was not even half of the game, but I wouldn't compare it to this metal gear survive travesti thing.

>>386860537
>plots in videogames don't matter
kek my fucking sides

>>386861231
Nno, of course they don't, on top of being unnecesary, they are often terrible.
Might as well just not waste time and money on that.

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>>386862051

>>386852992
And Rayman should have been over after 2, but these companies don't want to take risks with new games, so they add on increasingly worse sequels to old games.

>>386844138
>peace walker
I expected MGSV to just be a better, bigger, PW. There's only a few differences between the two, and I can't justify buying V.
>the maps are larger, but fewer in number
>mother base invasions
>buddy system
>larger tech tree

PW definitely has a better story, and it even has actual indoor sneaking.

>>386854508
Can you write that without memespeak?

>>386838229
They should try to make it like PUBG.

>>386862790
Pubg isn't a survival game nor it has zombies.

>>386838229
Konami still has a rug?

>>386839978
I just want some sort of game where you can play with the stuff you never got to. I still want to play as Boss managing a PMC with soldiers, vehicles and gears. It doesn't even need to be canon and it doesn't even need to be Big Boss

>>386863692
But that would be cool, competitive survival zombie game. Can be killed by players or zombos. If killed by zombo you revive as a zombo and can kill other players.

>>386838325
kojima did ape escape in mgs 3

he also planed on making a mgs zombie game

i bet he worked on the survive game as a side project/mini game but could not release it durring the ttp time so waited

>>386839978
I honestly can't see konami doing anymore AAA games. MGSurvive only seems to be a thing because all the resources are there for them to churn out a quick cashgrab. If it fails to sell (which it probably will if it even gets released) MGS will get shelved forever. They'll keep using fox engine for their pes soccer games and occasionally make some low budget games to retain their ips though.

I CONFESS

I have not played a single MGS game in this damn thread and I am just trolling everybody

Give me3 reasons why I should reinstall MGSV and play MGO3

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>>386865156
Not even remotely surprised.

>>386863971
Can you provide a source that kojima wanted to make a zombie mgs? Because I can provide 2 where he thinks zombies added to the franchise is the most stupid thing he has ever seen.

>>386858893
Only MGS1, 2 and MGSV.

I always defend MGSV.

>>386865301
you already made your mind. stop trying to waste people's time.

>>386839978
Kart Racer

>>386865967
>mgr
https://www.videogamer.com/news/kojima-wants-metal-gear-rising-2-to-star-cyborg-ninja-gray-fox

>>386841168
>Need to develop a nuke for the achievement
>Stuck with bloody demon Snake

For fuck's sake

>>386859968

I hope Survive retcons V by revealing it, GZ, and itself to be a VR training system meant for Solidus. It would nicely fix everything.

>>386849679
Do you even know what nuclear means?

>>386870565
Here's a (you) for effort.

>>386855346
Nobody wants to work with Konami anymore, I doubt they can bait Platinum into it.

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>>386839978
>tfw want the series to rest in peace and think it should have already ended years ago
>but still think it'd be cool for stuff like what >>386848920 suggested to happen
Except I don't really care for the child soldier thing. Maybe a prequel with Liquid during the Gulf War? Or in between the events of MG1 and MG2 (from the time he was rescued to the time he finds out Solid killed BB) would be cool. I was also thinking of maybe a series of short MGS comics that showed individual characters' stories other than SS/BB.

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What a legacy Konami has... So many of of my favorite classics are Konami games.

I think the hate against Konami is unfounded. Except for a few games, it was clear that they couldn't hack it anymore. Like so many other Japanese studios, all the talent have left and their attempts at making stuff like new Silent Hill games had failed. I think it's smart of them to focus on pachinko for a while, but since that culturally seems to be on the way out in Japan, I recon they'll come back some time soon... especially now that Japanese games have gotten their second wind in the West, they might even be able to attract new talent to make new original games and great sequels.

Is there even a release date?