Try to refute this Protip: You fucking can't

>>386837589
i cant

are we done here?

>>386837589
move everything to pleb except gameplay

Patrician taste is beibg able to evaluate everything that makes an entertainment medium, pleb

patrician is doing something productive

>>386837589
Art design is a part of graphics.

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>>386837589
should replayability really be in patrician though?

>>386837793
I think he means that the style of the art is much more important than whether it's technologically advanced or not

Gameplay ages unless it is something really simple, like Tetris, Pacman or Pong because modern games always improve in the older, less refined mechanics

Graphics age like dickcheese in a few years save for exceptions (games with pre-rendered graphics like REmake)

The only eternal qualities in videogames are the art design, the soundtrack and the atmosphere, the story would be secondary to all these

>>386837653
>move everything to pleb except gameplay
>caring about good soundtracks is being a pleb
I bet you have this in your play list.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6o47N-aYd08

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>>386837883
>modern games always improve in the older, less refined mechanics

Removing features is not "improving"

>>386838142

If those features are shit and are in the way of smoother, more intuitive gameplay, removing them is improving

>>386838270
>more intuitive gameplay
blander more """""streamlined""""" gameplay you mean

>>386838342

I guess you think I'm talking about cinematic walking simulators or something, I'm talking about sequels or new games that actually improve over older games

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>>386837589
Honestly you're a pleb if you undervalue any of those features. For example games like Nier suck fucking ass when it comes to gameplay but the plot is such a 10/10 experience that you deal with it. If graphics were not important then we would never have had TECHNOLOGY like realistic lighting, the rain in MGS2, shit like that, and likeable characters can go a long way to cover up issues in a game or increase enjoyment because you genuinely like the characters (Solid Snake, Dante, Kain to name a few)

High quality vidya is made of many pieces to make a whole fucking good one. To single out any of them in some trash attempt at elitism is what has ruined vidya, and OP you're the very faggot that you claim to hate.

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>>386838435
I'll give you a concrete example then

>Star Wars Battlefront 2
It used to have a vehicle system where vehicles would spawn and anyone could get them, even stealing enemy vehicles. If the vehicles had an open cockpit you could even shoot the pilots out of the vehicle without destroying them. Then steal the vehicle.

>EA's Star Wars™ Battelfront™ 2™
Vehicles are now exclusively earned through an in-game currency system. These points are accumulated through the match and can be boosted with real money. The vehicles cannot be driven by anyone else. Killing the pilot automatically causes the vehicle to explode. Even open cockpit walker vehicles.

Companies' sequels generally don't "improve" mechanics, they either remove or dumb-down. There are surely examples you could find, but they're the exception, not the rule. Games are a lot less complex and dynamic than they used to be.

>>386838507
The only parts I agree with are like-able characters, and graphics. Caring about the story in a game is pleb tier. If you want a good story just watch a movie, read a book, or play a VN.

Replayability is for plebs. I want to play new games, not get stuck to the same one.

>>386840596
>I like to pay sixty dollars for something I will play once and never touch again

>>386840647
Yes. I want new experiences. I'm not poor.

True patrician: having all of those elements blend together seamlessly for the best video game experience.

So many fucking plebeians in this thread baka desu

>>386837589
Why should I settle for a bad story in a game. It should be good in all those qualities.

>>386840594
>If you want a good story
>play a VN

>>386841257
You're a fantasist

>>386841547
Is it so wrong to dream?

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>>386837589
graphics and art design go hand and hand and story has a place depending on the game. Not every game has a focus on replayability and not every game needs a well-done story but if they're core part of how the game is designed of the game should be judged by them along everything else. When gameplay elements resonate with the story it's pretty fuckin cool and unique to the medium

>>386841312
There might be a VN with a good story, somewhere out there.

>>386838435
So it's still purely gameplay and the game being new and "prettier" is completely irrelevant to the case.

>>386837589
There's nothing wrong with story-based games.

>>386841257
Being a jack-of-all-trades isn't patrician.

>>386837589
Why would likeable characters be bad? Most games are what they are because of the characters.

>>386837653
yep, if the gameplay sucks the rest is just window dressing.

>>386837589
>immersion isn't an option
>"likeable" characters instead of strong character interactions

>>386840594
Go play Fire Emblem Conquest and try to say that again.

>>386845874
>y-you can't be good at everything! t-that's cheating!

>>386842183

Nobody said gameplay was bad or not important, just that it ages and new games improve on old ones, so old games that rely entirely on their gameplay and don't offer anything more are usually outdated shit