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>>386826554
home

>>386826619
?

>>386826619
What did he mean by this?

>>386826554
Least it was before the witch fucked everythaa up.

I can't understand a single post in this thread.

slytherin

I'll always be disappointed by this area. I thought the area had great atmosphere and artistic design, but they fucked up everything else about it.

>>386826619
It was before I fucked everythang up

My hands are all messed up

Where I left my scars.

>>386826554
Favorite invasion spot in the whole series

>>386826554
Even that fucking thumbnail makes my eyes hurt.

I left my fingernails in the bathtub hold on....

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>>386826554
>people unironically think DaS1 was better than DaS2 in spite of OP's picture

>>386826554

Man, I fucking loved this area for what little we got. The lore, the layout, the feel, the "scenery," the architecture, the motherfucking Bed of Chaos. It was always so damned cool to me. I'll never be satisfied with how little it was fleshed out and how cut short the whole thing felt.

>>386830837
a single shitty area you can just run through in less than five minutes is better than an entire game that is shitty.

>>386831250
>bwaaaark polly want a cracker bwaaaark

>>386831042
better be careful with that opinion

>>386826619
At least it was until From fucked everythang up

When I got to the Demon Ruins and walked out and saw the totally flat area with like 10 tauros demons and 15 capra demons, I bust out laughing for 5 minutes. Still a great game though.

>>386831337
stop quoting yourself

>>386831354

Unconcerned. Unfortunately, that's how I felt about a lot of places in DaS1. Ash Lake, for example. What a fucking waste.

I love the game, don't get me wrong. If we really want to get into dangerous opinions, DaS3 is my least favorite as far as settings go. DaS2 definitely my fave.

>>386831454
You first, baka.

>>386831782
You can call me a bandwagoning parroting faggot all you want but I still like Das1 more than 2 and there is nothing you can do about it. Much like how I can't do anything about you liking Das2. Personally, I've seen enough Das2 haters and defenders to the point where I don't know what the majority actually is anymore. But even so, I don't give a fuck if it is a common opinion or not, I just plain don't like the game. I like the Majula theme and Vengarl and that is about it.

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>do 4kangz early
>do painted world
>beat O&S
>quit

anyone else know that feel? this is all I do when I replay now

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GoooO0ood Area to bee honest about it

>>386826554

Protip: Its not lost in the sense it cant be located, its lost becauese it was overrun by demons, its lost to chaos.

>>386832321
I like papa Nito's skele cave and Duke's Nukem

>>386832564
ToG is good but catacombs suck dick so I ignore

Duke's is copypasted book hallways with a shitty empty cave afterwards and a piss easy boos (tbf tho nito is easy too)

>>386832631
wat catacombs is the easiest shit to just run through

>>386832726
that's true for lost izalith as well, doesn't make it not shit. It doesn't help that I would have to do it at the end either, would rather just stop

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>>386832726
Would you mind stopping...this?

>>386832776
The thing is everything is shit the moment you step into Demon Ruins while Catacombs is pretty much nothing to get to Mr Bones darkness funtime

>>386826554
Reminder that anyone who played the PC version or patched the console version played on easy mode.

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>>386832631
>>386832726
catacombs was one of the funner invasion areas for me personally

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>>386833037
agreed, that's where I'd terrorize people in the first two weeks when the game was out on ps3

>mfw pre-nerf tranquil walk of peace

modern fromsoft is too pussy to do this shit, they'll give the host 4 phantoms plus the ability to seed

>>386833006
crystal ring shield cheese and great magic shield making you literally invincible on the other hand makes that statement iffy. Patches were a mistake, the most fun I had was when I could glitch the fuck out of everything. Also Bottomless Box Glitch was the greatest thing ever and should be an actual feature.

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TAKE ME HOME TO DRAGONASS CITY
WHERE THE GAME DESIGN IS SHITTY

>>386833109
here, agreed with>>386833006

pre 1.04 console versions had:
-non-moved enemies making areas like lost izalith dragon butts and archer of anor londo actually difficult
-skeletons/ghosts didn't give souls
-WAY less humanity
-could not lock onto fog ringed enemies
-drop rates much lower
-less souls gained (quoted from the wiki: Overall increase in souls gained (~2-2.5 times more. HOLY SHIT!)
-can buy twinkling titanite

I'm sure I'm missing some but fuck patch 1.04

>>386833182
you can easily cheese the shit out of any souls game anyway, except maybe bloodborne? even then beast pellet + transform saw does wonders

>>386833109
Souls multiplayer has been trash since 2. After Das1, Fromsoft has done everything in its power to protect all those whiny babies. Des and Das1 are still the best in regards to multiplayer to me. Though admittedly, half of the covenants in Das1 don't even work but the basic summoning and invasion functions, the stuff that actually matters, worked like a charm from the start.

>>386833621
agreed, however even dark 1 is pushing it as invaders can't heal

GOD everything post lordvessel sucked. I was having such a great time and then Lost Izalith and Tomb Of Giants sucked the enthusiasm right out of me

>>386833882
ToG is the only good post LV area tho

>>386832270
>You can call me a bandwagoning parroting faggot all you want but I still like Das1 more than 2 and there is nothing you can do about it
I can call you a faggot.

>Not liking Lucatiel
What a faggot.

>>386833882
I can understand people's complaints about Lost Izalith, but what exactly does everyone hate about Tomb of the Giants? I've always liked that area. Wouldn't call it one of the best in the game, but there was nothing particularly bad about it.

>>386834026
>liking Lucatiel
What an actual faggot

how beat fume knight

>>386833882
Lost Izalith wasn't even bad. What did you do to hate it? Try to fight giants in the lava?

>>386834284
Not him but it's probably the fact that the lava melts your eyeballs and it just feels rushed overall

>>386832321
I stopped doing Painted World after a while. It just got a bit tedious, even if you speedrun it and land the jumps. Priscilla is kind of a lame boss after the first couple of times and you're not really at threat unless you're really bad.

>>386826554
Please write dark souls, or das in the op so my filters can filter out these cancerous "x is better than y" souls threads. Thanks.

>>386834480
IMO painted world is the best designed area in the game, all the multiple ways to go through it area awesome. it's visual really cool too

>Priscilla is kind of a lame boss after the first couple of times and you're not really at threat unless you're really bad

true but she's optional in terms of the area

>>386834272
Hit him till he dies while not getting hit

>>386834605
how beat fume knight

>>386834431
idk about everyone else but the part with all the giant undead asses served more as a connector to the other part, but it still was rushed up yea

>>386834640
Grab your vape and blast a giant cloud right into his face lol #vapenation

>>386833621
The amount of kinds of builds in DSII easily makes it the best for PvP.

>>386835034
no it doesn't fuck your duel/arena trash, souls combat isn't made for that kind of shit especially not with its horrid netcode. DeS is the best because you can seriously fuck up someone's game, attacking a new player with the scraping spear is the best shit ever

>>386835034
das 2 gets fucked by the horrible fucking soul level system.
My friend told me to wear agape ring the whole game so i don't get fucked by level 300 havals

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>>386835128
I used the duel/arenas once or twice because it took too fucking long to get a match. I spent a lot of time in the Belfry Luna, Iron Keep Bridge, and DLC areas.

>>386835248
That was never really a big deal for me.

>>386833621
>After Das1, Fromsoft has done everything in its power to protect all those whiny babies.

Because instead of just playing the game and have fun with invasions people twinked the fuck out of their characters, rendering the humanity system almost useless.

They tried to fix this in DS2 with soul levels but fucked it up anyway.

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>>386832321
I stopped playing Dark Souls after I finished Lost Izalith and was heading towards the Catacombs. I realized that I only enjoyed like 2 parts and everything else was either infuriating or utterly boring in this game.

>>386826554
I didn't think it was bad as everyone had made me thought it would be

>>386832270
agreed anon, DaS2 is a piece of shit

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So what do you guys expect the next "not Souls" game to be?
>
Dark Souls Developer is Working on Something New - IGN News
FromSoftware / 21 Sep 2016
From Software Working on 3 Games, One of Which Is Armored Core
Share.
"Oh, what the hell is this very weird game that Miyazaki has created?"

By Joe Skrebels From Software president and Dark Souls creator Hidetaka Miyazaki has said that his studio is currently developing three games, and that one of them will be a new entry in the Armored Core series.

In an interview with IGN at Tokyo Game Show, Miyazaki gave hints as to what each of the three games will be:

"So there are several titles that we are currently working on [...] Some of those are dark fantasy, some of those could be a mech [game] - that's one thing. The second thing is that one of the new titles I've been working on will probably comply with the expectations from the fans in straightforward manner.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/09/21/from-software-working-on-3-games-one-of-which-is-armored-core?abthid=57e287075a178f5c40000006

Really, REALLY fucking hoping Miyazaki played Ni-Oh and took some pointers into how combat can be in his games. DSIII and Ni-Oh's combat is night and fucking day.
>>386835637
This.

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>>386836008
What the fuck happened to my copy paste jesus christ. Should just read:

>"So there are several titles that we are currently working on [...] Some of those are dark fantasy, some of those could be a mech [game] - that's one thing. The second thing is that one of the new titles I've been working on will probably comply with the expectations from the fans in straightforward manner.

>>386833386
I thought skeletons and ghosts not giving you souls was just me not remembering things right. I didn't know that was patched in wtf.

>>386831042
I agree. Wrestling T-rex constructs in a lava pool was the most satisfying part of the game.

Made me stop playing the game for a year. Had to force myself to finish through it.

>>386835623
should have gone through the catacombs first. in terms of difficulty it's catacombs > demon ruins > duke's archives. if you play an area too early you may indeed find yourself infuriated, but you may not know that it's because you were underpowered.

>>386836008
bloodborne combat is superior.

>>386826554
The true bloodborne experience on pc

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>>386841036
>bloodborne combat is superior

>>386841036
I haven't played BB but I can tell it's satisfying thanks to its "attack and you gain back health" thing. But that's not enough. It's still "dodge, wait to dodge, attack," etc. It was egregious in DSIII.

>>386826554
did any of you guys ever fought the dinosaurs?

>>386826554
Remember what it was like pre-patch?
That was fun.

>>386841520
killed them all once nothing happens.

>>386841520
yes
they werent even shit
gave some good souls but that's about it

>>386826554

The witches of Izalith originally tried to create dragons of their own, but they failed. The failed dragons you see in Lost Izalith are the result of their attempt.

>>386841510
Nah, bloodborne enemies don't have 12 hit giga combos like in DS3. You always dodge and keep hitting except for one boss I guess?

>>386842079
Intradasting. If DSIII had a quick dodge akin to BB it wouldn't be so obnoxious to roll through a flurry of attacks and not get damaged. It looks and feels so stupid. But then it'd be called Bloodborne Lite more than it already is. And they should fucking put poise back.

>>386826554
I liked the ambiance, fight me.

>>386834097
>liking any npc of das2
lmao every npc in the game is dull af

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>>386826619

>>386831250
Demon Ruins is almost as bad as Lost Izalith, and they're both easily two of the worst areas in the entire series.

Have people figured out yet all the triggers to make that witch appear / never appear

>>386832270
Agreed.

>>386835248
I did a lot of PvP at 400+. I was told I'd be fighting non-stop havel mages, but I can't seem to remember fighting many. Strange, it's almost like there are so many viable ways to play that people just use whatever rather than be a munchkin.

>>386826554
I did this area last so really the game only turned to shit right at the end before the kiln, not directly after anor londo like people say.

>>386836008

I really, really, really want an Armored Souls game.

A game that plays like Dark Souls, but with the aesthetics of Armored Core.

I would do bad things to make that happen.

>>386843426
How many bad things? Would you say, 10 million?

>>386843284
The whole game sucks after anor londo thing is a meme.

I enjoyed all areas in my recent playthrough. Izalith is the weakest for sure but i do like the atmosphere and look of it, it defintely had potential.

Bed of chaos is really the only true shitty thing in DaS.

>>386844014
I mostly agree with this. I do think Duke's and Lost Izalith are slogs to get through, but the only 100% terrible thing about DS1 is Bed like you said.

>>386841965
>The witches of Izalith originally tried to create dragons of their own, but they failed. The failed dragons you see in Lost Izalith are the result of their attempt.
Is this true? It makes a lot of sense if it is.
Isn't there also a failed dragon in the painted world as well?

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What is your favorite location in DaS I?
For me, its this or the Kiln.

>>386844014
>The whole game sucks after anor londo thing is a meme.

I mean yes and no.

It doesn't suck, but the game drops from a solid 8-9 to a measly 6-7

>>386844128
DaS2 has some stupid fucking fixation in placing ranged hazards every-fucking-where and it's really fucking annoying.

It's as if the entire game was built around the idea of a player using a bow constantly.

>>386844128
This place is fine, Shrine of Amana tho.....

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>>386844128
I always just run straight to the boss. It's just not worth it.

>>386844727
>It doesn't suck, but the game drops from a solid 8-9 to a measly 6-7
Yeah.
The Duke's archives, Lost Izalith, and the Catacombs are all rather meh levels.
New londo is pretty good with its spooky atmosphere, but that is arguable pre-anor londo

>>386844685
Undead Burg/Parish
The Catacombs
Tomb of the Giants

>>386844685
Painted world.

>>386834090
It's a bit small and linear for me. And the Skelton dogs are a bit shit

>>386844970
You only need to beat Sif which is available from the absolute get-go, literally just go and kill Andre for the key. And even then you can do everything but the boss from the get-go as well. Hell, the speedrun used to use firebombs to kill the guy on the roof for his key or whatever to be able to lower the water as a way to get to Undead Parish faster.

>>386844951
whose teeth are those and why does it have a gap between his teeth?

>>386834090
Idiots who cant adapt to diffrent situations hate it i imagine. Havent really heard anything bad about it othervise.

>>386845518
>Hell, the speedrun used to use firebombs to kill the guy on the roof for his key or whatever to be able to lower the water as a way to get to Undead Parish faster.
Footage of this?

>>386835623
You are almost done, quitting right in front of the finish line is a silly thing to do.
Also the Final Boss has the best music

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>>386826554

ALL I KNOW IS THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE GAMES WHERE YOU LEAVE BEHIND YOUR XP WHEN YOU DIE AND YOU HAVE TO GO FIND IT TO RECOVER IT. LITERALLY EVERY GAME NEEDS TO HAVE THIS MECHANIC. EVEN FARMING SIMS.

>>386845850
>ALL I KNOW IS THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE GAMES WITH AN INVASION SYSTEM, EVEN FARMING SIMS.
ftfy

>>386834090
I tried it right after pinwheel without the Lord vessel and got stuck at the next bonfire trying to get out

>>386845518
>And even then you can do everything but the boss from the get-go as well.
I forgot that you actually need the lord vessel before taking on the four kings. My mistake.

>>386845976
ALL GAMES SHOULD BE EXACTLY LIKE SOULS

>>386846020
>you actually need the lord vessel before taking on the four kings
That's not true.

>>386846229
EVEN FARMING SIMS

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>>386826554
underrated masterpiece

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>>386846020
No actually you only need the ring from Sif, meaning that you can kill 4Kids as your second boss if you would want.

>>386845651
https://youtu.be/vVek_SriYNA?t=3m44s
He does the actual trick around 4:40-ish. It's a pretty old trick now and I think the fastest route uses a different weapon meaning they take the Undead Burg path for the Black Knight Greatsword instead of the Valley of Dragon path to Darkroot for the Black Knight Halberd. Before, we used the Master Key to get to the Valley and grab the Red Tearstone Ring for sick damage, but after I stopped running the game they started finding shit left and right, including the path through New Londo so that the water would be lowered as well as a more safe approach for the Tearstone Ring. Shit got pretty crazy after I stopped.

>>386846402
>Eurotruck simulator
>The undead (refugees) are blocking the highway
>have to take out your polish blade and clear the streets

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>>386826619
A man of taste, I see.

>>386826554
It's still better than any area from Dark Souls 2

I went backwards through lost izalith only to find I couldnt enter centipede demons boss room from the other fog gate.

>>386844763
Nigga,I played DaS2 without patches on my cousin's 360 and Shrine of Amana was HELL,people here say to use magic or bow on Amana and I wonder how much they patched coz it was impossible with magic and hard as hell with bow without aggroing those fuckers
And when you did it? they ran my friend,they really ran

>>386847878
I too suffered through this shit on my ps3
And in SofTFS it isn't pretty much changed, it's still fucked as hell

>>386847878
>>386847973
ironically enough, if you keep your cool and try to defeat each enemy one by one you can pull this through, and when it comes to a couple of places that are quite crowded, the olde bow tactic to lure each one individually works

DUDE BLOOM LMAO

>>386847973
I still can't see how people liked it over the others,granted I haven't played DaS3
To be honest most of my hate comes from the slowass movement,DaS and DeS controls feel better for me

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>>386826619
At least it was before the witch fucked everything up.

>>386833386
>can buy twinkling titanite
noob mode on

>>386833621

>but the basic summoning and invasion functions, the stuff that actually matters, worked like a charm from the start.

Honestly this is how I know you didn't play DaS1 at release. DeS was fine because they used servers, but the P2P was fucking awful for a good while in DaS1.

>>386833882
I liked New Londo and the Kiln of the First Flame. The Forest too but you can do that
before the LV.

>>386848781
I really miss getting fully erect when I finally got a darkmoon invasion. It was fucking righteous in DS1. Farming painted world harpies all day for DMB was less fun

>>386833386
patch 1.04 also reduced enemy stamina when guarding

>>386848885

I just remember playing for nearly 4 hours straight because I finally summoned a friend and it matched us up for the rest of the night.

>>386826554
>*drops framerate*
>heh, nothing personnel kiddo

>>386846494
Thanks for the share. Wouldn't it be faster to fight Ingward up close for the key?

>>386848983
>hiding your summon sign so your friend can find it
>that wonderful moment when you finally connect and know you'll be able to connect for the rest of the night
I need to replay DS1 soon

>>386826554
*uninstalls game*

>>386830837
>wow, people unironically think 1 bat shit area in an otherwise superb game is not worse than a bat shit game

>>386844128
invading here and the gutter was fun
then you get poisened

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>>386849131
>you will never dissect the brains of people who like DS2

>tfw started playing Dark Souls just in time for mods that fix the lava eyesore
feels good

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>That moment in the dreg heap where you realise it's og Firelink and you have to walk down Frampt's pit to continue
why did the dreg heap have to be Lothric's greatest hits and earthern fucking peak

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>>386849069
Not really, you'd need to run through the house and climb up the ladder, which is A: risky as shit and pretty slow and B: a two-way trip, meaning you'd have to run back down again. Also, at this point in the run you wouldn't have a strong weapon so it'd be more of a fight than necessary. In short, it introduces more risk and is probably slower even if you count getting the bombs.

>>386826554
i'm always confused about the geography of this world
Izalith used to be a great civilization but the only way to get their is through a swamp that acts as a drainage dump for an entire city
who the fuck said that was a good idea

>>386849606
There are probably other, more sensible, ways to get to Izalith. Also blighttown might not have been built until after the witch of izalith fucked her entire life up

>>386826619
>Walk through the cavern door.
>Dragon ass wielding a baseball bat comes running at you.

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>>386848607

Nice

>>386826554
Dragon Asses: The Movie, The Game, The Ride.

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>>386845552

>>386826554
Looking back on the first Dark Souls, most of the areas and most of the game was shit, honestly.

Blight Town, the place with the ghosts with their bastard arms the go through walls, the sewers with Gaping Dragon, the shitty Oolacile areas with the OP enemies with OP magic attacks, Duke's archives, Crystal caves and the Catacombs were as bad, if not worse than Izalith.

Most of the areas that weren't badly designed were still dull shit with cheap enemies and just boring: Anor Londo (linear as fuck, badly-designed enemies, you see an enourmous city and never get to explorer it), The Royal Woods.

The only consistently goof part of the game was the very beginning, after ringing both bells the game wen t to shit.

The only parts that were good were the initial Undead Burg areas, the Gargoyles,Queelag fight, Sif, Artorias and Gwynn.

>>386826554
Reminder that this is the worst area in the series but people will conveniently forget it exists when discussing DS2

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I miss DaS1.

>>386849767
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ua0zMsDiAyg&t

>>386845552
thats a kirby bro

>>386844727
>it's really fucking annoying
DaS2 summed up perfectly.

>>386850892
I'll take one really shitty area over loads of not quite as shitty, but still shitty areas

>>386831337
LOL imma use that one

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>>386826554
>pre-patch dragon asses

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>>386852020
This is how I feel sometimes at night before I fall asleep, it's hard to explain but it's like everything is extremely intense and moving fast...do I have brain damage?

>>386844727
I think the only memorable part of the game after Anor Londo was the Kiln. It would have been nice if the game after Anor Londo was designed with the same feeling that the Kiln had. I mean, you are killing the decaying gods of old.

Maybe it's ok that only the Kiln had that sense of finality and the scars of the past.

>>386826554
i was always worried this was going to break my monitor.

>>386848563
>DaS and DeS controls feel better for me
You have to play DaS3 then my man, it's the best of both worlds
>>386848471
I did it through with some npc phantom in SofTFS but damn level design in this game is obnoxious as it is

>>386853047
With this, the boss, and the awful retina burning lava, you really have to ask, what the fuck were they thinking?