Why is the gunplay in this game so unsatisfying?

>>386819341

Because GTA IV is better, in every way.

>>386820391
stop sucking that fag crowbcat's dick

>>386819341
Popping player heads with pistols while they struggle with automatic weapons is pretty satisfying

>>386820418
Everything about GTA IV's multiplayer is better than V's prove me wrong.

>>386819341
>downgraded physics
>weak sounds

Because the guns feel weak, and are retarded overall, a handgun is equal to an assault rifle, you can do exactly the same with both of them, and is too easy to get headshots with any of them, pair it with regen health and every bit of challenge is gone, compare it with gta4, where the assault rifle was something powerful compared to the rest of the weapons

is there any gun in this game that compares with using the python from vice city?

not enough gore.

>>386821031

The Heavy Revolver is very satisfying to pop spray n pray fags with.

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>npc's all ragdoll in the same lame and gross floaty way
>they die from 1-3 shots regardless of shot placement
>incapacitated people die very shortly unlike in IV where you can take down a room of +6 people and walk by 2 of them down but not out
>the guns cycle in a slow chug because the sound designers were too fucking lazy
>hold fire to win

GTAIV was the tits. The gunplay was great.
>the first pistol was weak as fuck
>literally a physics gun from how much you can push someone around shit before they actually died
>arterial bleeding
>shooting people down the stairs was fun
>the fact that everywhere ragdolled everywhere as you shot them around
>shooting in bursts was actually viable, you could not get away with mindlessly mashing the fire button

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Rockstar doesn't really understand gun balance. SMGs are flat out useless because they are nothing but underpowered assault rifles. The automatic shotgun is ridiculously overpowered, to the point using any other shotgun isn't worth it. And they release so many weapons that you will never use like the SNS Pistol or the Saiga 12K because they don't compete with vanilla weapons.
As bad as GTA IV was it really nailed the gunplay. GTA V shooting feels cheap and half assed.

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>>386820872
>>386820910
this.
>tfw you shoot the shotgun out of a cop's hand and he takes out his sidearm
>tfw enemies could be tripped up by shooting them in the legs/feet
>tfw enemies that are downed will sometimes still be alive and use their sidearms
>tfw barehanded/melee combat had weight to it and was more involved

>>386820872
>>386821276
Exactly these
Really disappointing compared with IV, I expected something on par with MP3/RDR at the very least. I really can't enjoy V as much as IV solely because of the shooting.

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>>386821442
>baits the playerbase with "free DLC"
>it's just fluff supercars and guns you'll never use because every gun is outclassed by X in the same category
>end up having to cycle through +12 pistols and 5 different thrown weapons in your car
>b-b-but it's freeeeee!

What really activated my almonds was the fact that going to a deathmatch mode early on GTAO let you bring all your weapons to the match, effectively killing all of the fun and excitement that was the arena-style deathmatch of IV where everyone started off with pistols.
>spawn with pistol
>had to actually go around the area to get various weapons
>you weren't at a huge disadvantage against a LV100 that had literally 5x the health as you did

>>386820821
Explain how GTA IV's multiplayer was better. Keep in mind 90% of game modes in IV are also in V.

>>386821625
>tfw enemies that are downed will sometimes still be alive and use their sidearms

Are we talking about IV here? As much as I love the game, I'm quite sure this wasn't a thing in it as opposed to V which to my memory was the game that finally added this.

All the guns in IV felt like paintball guns to me Loud and powerful sounding, but without much impact.

Meanwhile, V's guns are so poorly balanced that there are, what, 5 guns of the 60-gun lineup that actually do something?

>>386821625
I don't like IV's melee combat. SA did it better.

>>386821734
swingset glitch

>>386821694
>>end up having to cycle through +12 pistols and 5 different thrown weapons in your car
You don't have to do that. You can customize loadouts so you only have one gun of each type.

>>386821796
when the fuck did they implement this?

>>386821793
That glitch exists in V, it's just not a swingset it's a mansion gate. It has the same effect of sending you flying across the map.

Try again.

>>386821625
>barehanded/melee combat
this i will always object to. if you ever go back, you'll notice a lot of melee attacks in gtaiv barely even connect. stomping on npcs barely even makes a sound when you do it. gtav's combat system may be underwhelming in sense of a video game, but not every street fight is going to be mma-tier. a lot of people yield after only a few good shots.

>>386821851
>when the fuck did they implement this?

Months after you gave up and lost interest in the game, just like everything really.

>>386820821
I loved how you would shoot enemies in the head and it wouldn't kill them after several headshots in a row, but shoot them in the foot and you kill them in two hits.

Unforgivable and unplayable. Even Vs shitty casualized shooting with bulletproof helmets Is better than that shit.

>>386821892
last I played was like 2-3 months ago.

>>386821860
neat. thank you

>>386821851
Gunrunning. Go to your bunker near the laptop and you can hide weapons you don't wanna use. I always roll with one of each, so I can switch between AP pistol, Advanced Rifle, Combat MG and Heavy Sniper easily.

>>386821796
Wait is this an online only feature or can you do this in SP as well?

GTA Online has flaws but gets too much shit on /v/. It's fun as hell if you have a crew to play with.

>>386822032
Online only, you need a bunker. It was only added a few months ago.

>>386820418

who the fuck is crowbcat?
Do you think everyone is a faggot >>>/r/edditor like you that watches e-celebs?

>>386821962
not even that recently, this was added all the way back in june 2016 with finance and felony. the ceo office also gives you an option to purchase a gun locker, which you can turn use to customize your loadout.

really sucks how you can't have multiple loadouts though, makes having more than one gunlocker redundant

>>386822114

It's not just the bunker, you can get a weapon locker in your executive business, MC club house, and bunker, they all work the same though.

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>>386822114
it was a thing with offices too. it's been available since last year.

>>386820391
really?
You're THAT kind of person?

>the money that you get dont escalate with the new prices
>doing heists with randos is shit
>you have to grind in private sessions to not be destroyed by kids on hydras

>>386821734
>Game modes

Literally who gives a fuck, GTA4 was incredible just because of either:

Freeroam + airport

or

Party Mode + Pals

I never play GTA5 for more than an hour a month these days, its usually only to test out new content and then switch back to my dorifto games unphased

>>386822487

>>>/r/eddit

>>386819341

>hold L2, then hold R2, don't even touch the stick
>if you're not snapped on someone, tap L2 again

It's not that sort of game.

>>386823225
GTA Online has much better free roam. Literally what was there to do in GTA IV's free roam other than PvP?

removing Armored cars, Player spawnable jets/helicopters (rare spawns are fine), and Homing launchers would instantly improve the multiplayer experience of this game.
Prove me wrong

>>386819341
It's symbolism of the fact that senseless violence is always unsatisfying

>>386825257
activate passive mode if you're such a wuss.

>>386825257
Join a peacufull band lobby, socialise goddamnit, you get much more excitement if you join any "guild".

>>386821276

what annoys me is the stupid illusion they give you about high fire rate. try to fire a micro smg. if you look at the ammo corner you see you actually fire like 5 bullets per second. but it SOUNDS like 20 or so. thats some pretty lazy design.

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>>386819341
sounds are shit and physics engine has been nerfed. even watch dogs' guns packed a punch

>>386820391
We're making this a meme because some autistic hipster uploaded a biased YouTube video? He actually used the fucking PS3 version to try to shut V down. Both are good games with weaknesses, but stop sucking IV's dick so hard.

>>386823225
Look, unless R* makes a Next-Gen remaster of IV next year, I am not conforming to this whiny bullshit. If they do, I will.

>>386821860
>That glitch exists in V, it's just not a swingset it's a mansion gate
Is it in Rockford Hills by Michael's house?

>>386828510
>We're making this a meme because some autistic hipster uploaded a biased YouTube video
No it's just /v/ being contrarian as usual. What hipster youtuber are you talking about though?

>>386819341
Every single gun shoots the fucking same and all of the sounds are awful.
This, being based entirely off my personal opinion.

>>386828854
Crowbcat, I think he's called. I don't watch YouTube celebrity trash, but that same video gets posted every single time a GTA thread pops up. Since then, there's been this pantsu-on-head retarded war on which HD GTA is the superior one.

>>386821276
is this a cartel hit or just a psycho cop

>>386819341
They have a lot of guns and a lot of modification in it, so they took away the depth and weight in the gunplay for it so they can spare time to individualize every weapon (which makes sense, GTA V had a budget of 200 million, but that budget goes into voice actors, cut scenes, animations and world building).
That's why many people liked at least the gunplay in GTA IV more, less weapons but each weapon is highly different from another, not only the damage but also the feeling, in GTA V it makes, except for the Damage, almost no difference what shotgun or what pistol you use, they feel the same.

Tbs, I liked the special ability of Michael, so at least playing as Michael was satisfying because it felt like "Max Payne Open World" rather than "GTA".

I don't like how every fight against the AI is the same. Hide behind cover and pick them off one by one because if you try to do it head on with your cool guns, they all tear your armor and health to shreds because the game spawns them in piles

>>386824876
parkour bro

>>386828960
Yeah and at the end of the day they're giving points, and you're sat ranting and raving like a retard.

>>386819341
Because if you hit someone in the leg or gut they fall over. But get up and keep running/shooting.
Because when you incapacitate an enemy it takes another half mag to finnish them off.
Because semi-auto snipers take 5 rounds to kill.
Because pump shotguns take more shells to kill than autos.
Because silencers do NOTHING.
Because even though it's in every game they still haven't made a good drive by mechanic.
Because enemies deal more damage per shot.
Because the gun sounds are weak.

Lol at console niggers who cant install euphoria ragdoll mods