ITT: Games that aged HORRIBLY

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People are gonna get triggered, but it's the truth. 3D games from the PS1/N64 era all aged like dogshit.

>>386773009
nah son, you're just a kid.

>>386772909

BOTW looks like shit

>>386773092
Not a argument

Nice meme! Upvoted xd

>>386773009
No, this is still the best game ever made. Most console 3d games from that era are shit but Mario 64 is a legitimate masterpiece that is flawlessly playable to this day

>>386773009
Except that's one of the better aged ones.

aged better than botw will

>>386773289
It is though. If you're a kid then your opinion on what has aged cannot count because you're too immature to have a legitimate say on the matter.

>>386773289
I think it is. There are some things you can only appreciate out of time once you're older.

>>386773009
they didn't make the character look realistic and it has perfect controls

>>386773343
Ok I genuinely love 64 but you still need to admit the camera is a bit wonky and difficult to work with today. It's aged way better than most N64 games but it's still a product of the early 3D era.

Is the aged like milk complain the perfect excuse to not play older games and shit on them?

>>386773425
Im 24 so not a kid but you don't need to be 80 to say black and white movies with no sound were shit

>>386772909
Cry some more. Just a few tears is all it will take to remove it from the top the GOAT list.

>>386773497
Cameras still haven't improved, so much as had their clipping removed. For that matter, once the sky opened up on games, cameras don't have to be tethered to any physical objects. Every 3D game would be crash bandicoot, or tie fighter, if not for Mario 64

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>>386773009
>3D games from the PS1/N64 era all aged like dogshit.
Speak for yourself, faggot.

>>386772909
I actually prefer the gameboy zeldas to the N64 ones nowadays.

Pixel art is way more enjoyable in recent eras compared to the 3D art of the past.

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>>386772909
Yet I still have fun replaying it once every year. Get fucked, OP.

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>>386773009
>still has some of the best controls in video game history
No.

>>386773931
Yeah I know that but my point is, the camera in 64 is fairly bothersome sometimes and gets stuck on objects and all that. It doesn't disrupt the game too much but it is a minor issue in a masterpiece.

>>386773009
>PIC UNRELATED

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Even vanilla Daggerfall looks better than that potato.

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>>386773092
>>386773992
>>386774082

>>386772909

just play the 3ds version you cunt

>>386773992
>>386774094
Proving him right

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>>386774689
i don't know what your salty about, but i'm biting the bait. Oblivion is still fun and you can pick it up and start playing for a few hours. can't say the same for the older elder scrolls. Morrowind kind of but if you're not used to how everything works in morrowind it puts a gross taste in peoples mouth.

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>>386774835
>>386775008
>B-BUT NOSTALGIA
Nah m8, just replayed it the other day and it holds up better than most games that come out nowadays. Eat shit underage cunts.

>>386773931
I agree that mario 64 has pioneered the modern day 3d camera mechanics, but it has been perfected by other games that followed and sony for deciding to make the dualshock.

>>386773009

Disagree. The camera can be slightly annoying, but otherwise, this game is actually a great example of a game aging well.

>>386775161
1989 here, you just have shit taste

>>386773795
>black and white movies with no sound were shit
you've clearly never watched one lol

>>386772909
You can't be serious, OOT is still unsurpassed, unless you're one of those faggot who like BotW because it's babby's first open world game. OOT+MM are absolute masterpieces that are unsurpassed to this day.

ITT:
>You know that game you liked as a kid?
>Fuck you

/v/ doesnt even try anymore

>>386774689
Are you mental. Obliv looks like a absolute candy.

>>386772909
you first

>>386773009
The movements and controls are still pretty good, better than some recent clunky games like The Witcher 3.

>>386775250
Whatever you say grandpa

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>>386772909
>>386773009
I disagree with these, though.

>>386773092
So you're just admiting you just like it only because of notalgia?

>>386775374
t. born in 1999.
do you still live with your parents?

>>386774094
nigga shut the fuck up
Golden Eye has some of the worst controls for a FPS. Doesn't help that it's on one of the worst controllers of a major console.

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>>386775250
1985 here. You sure you're not the one with shit tastes?

>>386775490
>Implying you're not the one born in 1999
How was your first day back to school, anon?

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>>386773009
>PS1 U wot

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>>386772909
>it's literally just Dark Souls but good
Hmmm...

>>386773992
I played it a few months ago and the game has quite a few problems:

- The kazooie modifier controls are fucking shit
- Camera sucks
- Lose all of the notes if you die in a level, instead of giving you a checkpoint at 50 notes
- Trivia level is fucking stupid

>>386773009
Mario 64 has aged like fine wine, though. It's pretty much the DOOM of 3D platformers, many people still play and speedrun it over 20 years after it's release.

>>386775747
>Being bad
Your own fault

>>386773009
I don't care about graphics at all, but I agree with this post. The camera is atrocious in this game which its only fault. Nevertheless, it doesn't take away from the game being one of the best ever made.

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>>386775284
I've never accepted "this game aged liked milk" as a legitimate criticism because there's usually no nuance to it. The person could be saying the game is bad because they didn't like the graphics or they couldn't get used to the controls or so and so forth. It gives me nothing, so I feel the only answer to it is "fuck off".

>>386775794
>Middle school just got out for America
>Suddenly wojak posters
Found the underage

>>386775814
Not bad, the game is dated.

>>386775794
Absolutely, the N64 was great ;)

>>386773497
No, I don't really see that. The camera does exactly what it needs to do without error.

>>386773009
Mario 64 is amazing when you git gud, the movement in that game is so nice, there's nothing like it (and if there is please tell me, all the other ones like Banjo Kazooie, Ratchet and Clank, Jak and Daxter and so on are clunky as fuck by comparison, while the Galaxy and 3D Land games are too gimmicky and don't rely on movement that much). It's as smooth and responsive as a 2D platformer but in 3D.

>>386775913
>the game is dated.
Maybe if you started gaming in the 360 era

>>386775512
play it on 1.2 Solitaire

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>OP asks for games that AGED horribly
>People post new games and games that aren't even out yet

Fucking salty retards

>>386773795
I'm 24 and there are plenty of silent films which are current masterpieces. Sounds like you're just a retard.

morrowind

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Crisis 3. I mean look at this piece of SHIT HAHAHA

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>>386775913
the N64 was great

>>386773467
>have to run in a full circle to change direction
>perfect controls
Aged like milk. Sorry, bud.

>>386772909
>games that aged horribly
>immediately get the urge to play it upon seeing the screenshot

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>>386774689
I'll bite. You've got to bear in mind this came out at the very start of its generation, I'd say it's arguably aged better than Morrowind or even Skyrim.

>>386772909
I'm still impressed with how relatively good that terrain looks. The ground texture and geometric shape of the field is really well done.

>>386775940
It gets stuck on shit all the time. wtf did you play?

>>386776073
You're a retard

>>386775996
I started playing on that N64/PSONE generation, and yes, most of those games are dated. Even 2D platformers from the NES/SNES play better nowadays.

>>386776073

>can literally turn 180 degrees while running full speed
>even use this to initiate a certain jump
>MUST run in a circle to turn around

lol wrong

>>386776180
Emotional reactions to facts are a common coping mechanism. I understand.

>>386776279
I'm not being emotional. You said something that was verifiably incorrect about the game. You said that because you're bad at the game, and you're bad at the game because you're a retard

>>386776218
Yeah and you can ONLY do that while running full speed. Good luck pulling off any kind of precise platforming with that nonsensical control scheme. Also pray that the camera doesn't get stuck while you're at it.

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>>386776073
>he doesn't know how to side jump

>>386773009
peopleonly got triggered because you mentioned ps1 and enraged the sonygoodboys

>>386776341
I've gotten all 120 stars multiple times. Doesn't change the fact that the game sucks and has aged horribly.

>>386776073
Side jump, my dude.

>>386774094
>>386775512
Goldeneye aged better than Halo: CE did

At least it's a unique style of FPS that doesn't get made anymore. Halo: CE just feels like a really primitive version of what they still shit out these days.

>>386776485
>>386776552
See >>386776463 and continue crying.

>>386776689
halo ce aged great, i wish there were more games that had wide open levels like halo did

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Fuck off, here's a game that actually got tangibly worse over the years

>>386775747
>The kazooie modifier controls are fucking shit
Sounds like you didn't play it on an N64 controller.

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>>386776463

>Good luck pulling off blah blah blah
>millions of people did just that when they beat the game years ago

You're just shitty at video games, I guess?

mariofags are the worst.

he's honestly on the same level as sonic for me. easily the most overrated vidya franchise.

>>386772909
Like you were even alive when that came out.

>>386777030
Well no, why would I? It's not the 90s.

>>386776689
You've got to be kidding me; GoldenEye was like the wolf3d to perfect darks doom and timesplitters quake. GoldenEye has aged like shit

However the original Halo trilogy is perfectly playable without any noticable signs of "aging" because they nailed for formula so far ahead of their time it was ridiculous. Halo is better than 99% of all fps games to come out in the last decade. You can't pretend that a cod campaign from 2015 is better than Halo ce without having absolutely no taste in games whatsoever

>>386777061
Mario 64 is easy. It's just badly designed and not fun.

>>386777158
The Mario franchise is trash but 64 is a legitimate 11/10

>>386777263

No, you just have shit taste and some strange desire to be as contrarian an asshole as you possibly can for edgy kewl kid points on a himalayan laundromat website.

>>386777234
Because the controls worked in the context of the controller they were designed around. Saying they're shit because you played it on something else is silly.

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>>386776463
Sounds to me like you're just bad at the game, especially when there's thousands of people out there who have mastered the game and can pull off the precise platforming you can't seem to do

>b-but I got all 120 stars
yeah and so has everyone else, SM64 isn't that difficult of a game and is easily replayable, what matters is the speed and precision at which you get the stars

>>386777362
But n64 controller is shit

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Not that it was ever good to start with.

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>>386772909
>has better grass textures than GTA V
>aged horribly

>>386772909
Never played that but it looks comfy af.

>>386777503
This aged fine besides character models

>>386776162
Yeah same thing I don't think people are really appreciating the amount of detail put in with what they could do at the time.

>>386777485
Spotted the underage

>>386775912
>believing in the summer meme
moot debunked it literally years ago

>>386777001
Agreed, though I haven't played it for a couple years now. Was thinking about going back and playing the campaign again.

>>386777941
>debunked

who the fuck is moot anyway

>>386777954

One of the best single player FPS campaigns ever, in my opinion.

People complain about it being Babby's First, but the enemy AI on Legendary is pretty much aimbot levels of difficult.

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>>386777941
>/v/ then
>Anything like /v/ now

>>386777245
>GoldenEye was like the wolf3d to perfect darks doom and timesplitters quake.
Except the reason Doom and Quake aged well is nobody makes games like it anymore. They haven't been "superseded" by modern equivalents. Out of those games you listed, none of them have a better single player than Goldeneye. They improved the multiplayer though.

>GoldenEye has aged like shit
t. played it on Agent with 1.1 controls

>However the original Halo trilogy is perfectly playable without any noticable signs of "aging" because they nailed for formula so far ahead of their time it was ridiculous
Nah, the reason that the formula has been beaten to death with more modern games that refined it is precisely why Halo: CE aged so poorly.

>Halo is better than 99% of all fps games to come out in the last decade. You can't pretend that a cod campaign from 2015 is better than Halo ce without having absolutely no taste in games whatsoever
COD doesn't have any levels as atrocious as The Library and doesn't involve backtracking the entire game, or the same endless repetitive corridors.

>>386777570
Playing on a 360?

>>386777263
"mario 64 is hard"
"no it isnt"
"mario 64 is easy"

whatever suits your argument, huh?

>>386777786
If it wasn't shit then Nintendo would have kept using the design

>>386772909
Games literally don't age. Good art remains good no matter what, and good game design will always hold up. If you go back to a game and find that it looks or plays like shit, it always looked or played like shit and you just didn't notice back then.

>>386777679
>Edgy and aloof protagonist stereotype
>Boring, barely-developed "for the evulz" villain
>"Too pure for this corrupt world so of course she's going to die" love interest
>Said love interest is only killed off because they were too lazy to think of anything better to advance the story
>Forgettable plot
>Annoying sidequests
>Maybe two good characters (Tifa and Barret)
>"Ninja" character that looks and acts against everything that actually is Ninja
>And so much more!

This game's aged like already expired milk and was never good to begin with.

>>386773425
genetic fallacy, faggot.
try again.

>>386772909
>>386773009
Don't let Nintenbros fool you, these two games in fact suck shit.
>Bu-but Z targeting!!!1
You mean that thing Nintenbros call an innovation but what was made immediately obsolete by the advent of a second control stick?
>Bu-but Mayrio taught me how to control in 3Dees!!1
Unlike Quake that led to the invention WASD movement and mouselook?

Get fucked Nintendo babies.

>>386778052
Did you play Halo 2 or 3? I was a PC+Nintendo kid, so I only played CE and always wondered if 2 and 3 were close to as good. They always struck me as less solid and more fiddly.

>>386778573
Aging in game terms means the mechanics, graphics, controls are outdated

Not you not liking the characters and story retard

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>>386774689

>>386777503
Literally Perfection: The Game.

>>386778604
fallacy fallacy, faggot.
try again.

>>386778719

The campaigns aren't as solid, but they're still pretty damn good. I would say the first 3 and ODST are worth playing.

>>386773009
Not triggered at all. Mario64 has aged like dog shit. The controls were amazing in 96 but have been rendered awful by its sequels.

>>386777245
halo is shit. regen health and 2 weapon limit is shit. you are shit and so are the other nu-/v/ faggots who praise halo.

>>386778805
That isn't just a fucking trump card.
your entire argument IS A FALLACY.
The fallacy fallacy says that if an argument is used poorly or has a fallacy, the argument itself is not necessarily flawed.

There is no escaping that when your entire argument is a fallacy and is flawed.

>>386778691
The fuck does quake have to do with anything

>>386772909
pic not related.

>>386779053
Quake has everything to do with everything.

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>>386778691
>Quake that led to the invention WASD movement and mouselook

>implying Quake invented these things

>>386777026
It's amazing how outdated TF2 is. Not even L4D became so clunky and old.
This game aged like milk.

>>386773009
Just replayed recently and had so much fun.
Truly one of the best platformer of all time.

>>386779254
Why are you defending it nobody said anything about before you posted

>>386772909
>>386774094

Ocarina of Time has aged like fucking dogshit indeed. That game is barely worth playing. But Goldeneye is still a good game, but admitted the controls are fucking garbage. If Goldeneye just had a control revamp, and also getting rid of the respawning enemies thing, it would be a lot better.

The problem is on 00 Agent the auto aim is trash tier and the manual aiming is impossible to do quickly with those garbage controls and the fuck that the camera is constantly auto correcting and auto centering too.

And on that note of 007. Everything or Nothing has aged really badly too. It was one of the first cover shooters ever, and pretty much everything after it did it better. The cover shooting is clunky as fuck, and it still has lock on auto aim as well from the days of early 2000's console FPS. So aside from the driving missions, and the really cool rappel sections. It's just a very clunky badly aged cover shooter.

>>386773289
MODS

>>386775451
no, because i judge them for what they were at the time they were released, maybe you think that are horrible comparing them with actual games of their genres, but that's something subjective, in an official way Super Mario 64 and OoT were both great games for the standards at their respective moment.

>>386779327
>"while we can’t know whose fingers found their way to WASD first, we do have a good idea of who popularized the style: the greatest Quake player in the universe, Dennis “Thresh” Fong."
http://www.pcgamer.com/how-wasd-became-the-standard-pc-control-scheme/
It's almost like if you give players actual freedom to express themselves the gameplay becomes better.
>>386779469
Because Quake has everything to do with everything.

>>386779728
>greatest Quake player
>Player

>Unlike Quake that led to the invention WASD movement and mouselook?

>implying quake the game made it popular not the guy who used it

>>386780302
>Unlike Quake that led to the invention WASD movement and mouselook?
>>led to
>Lead - the initiative in an action; an example for others to follow.
>>example for others to follow.
>>>others = player

This is why you're Nintendo babies.

>>386779475
>also getting rid of the respawning enemies thing
>The problem is on 00 Agent the auto aim is trash tier and the manual aiming is impossible to do quickly with those garbage controls
I'm glad you like Goldeneye, that's some good taste anon. But I've got some bad news for you. You're also a casual, at least at this particular game.

The enemies only respawn if you failed at stealth. Stealth is an extremely significant part of how Goldeneye plays. Unless you're a pro speedrunner, the game is impossible to complete on 00 Agent unless you've mastered the stealth system. Getting rid of the respawning enemies essentially would get rid of one of the game's best mechanics.

Also the autoaim is deliberately toned down on 00 Agent. That's because you're supposed to be stealthy and only take considered carefully aimed shots. The game also shitload of different control methods - many people don't like the default controls (though some do!) and if you don't like those you can easily change to them.

Unfortunately most critics of Goldeneye are very young players who have only ever played it on an emulator, only ever tried it on Agent mode, and don't even known about the control menu (since it's fairly hidden).

>>386779728
WASD movement was way before Quake.

>>386778604
Children lack the capacity to think critically or objectively. Arguments from them can be dismissed, especially when it comes to video games or the topic of things changing over time.

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remove your nostalgia filters and admit it

>>386773009
Graphics maybe, but not controls or gameplay. You wanna see a game that looks good yet controls like shit? Play the Crash N Sane Trilogy

>>386781082
I always Liked vice city more and thought it aged slightly better

>>386781082
Graphically I get it, but what about this game aged poorly?

>>386780641

>impossible to beat on 00 Agent

Well I did, and yet I am apparently a casual. Fuck it was hard on the later levels though, sidestepping like a motherfucker while trying to shoot and not get stunned

>everytime bond gets hit, he gets stunlocked and can't fire his gun for a second even if it's a full auto weapon

Infuriating desu.

But yeah I did play it on an emulator with a PS3 controller. I made my own control scheme up in the PJ64 settings, it was hard to get something that worked well. I settled with, Left stick was movement forwards backward, plus turn left and right, right stick was aim up and down only, and the shoulder buttons where straft left and right.

The problem was I could never really pull off manual aiming very well. I dunno if it was me or the emulator controls, but it was over/under aiming to a crazy degree and I'd either miss their head by a hair or a mile. Then I'd kill one or two of them, and then some other guard would walk in, or I'd get low on PP7 ammo and move to some other more fun weapon.

I wasn't sure how far the stealth went, since in the first level, enemies seemed to know I was there as soon as I went around the first bend, even though they were off in a bunker way in the distance.

Games don't age.

>>386781516
"This game hasn't aged well" is a concise and simple way of saying "Standards have evolved and this game is well below these new standards, making it a way less enjoyable experience nowadays, when you have a larger catalog of video games to play with a ton of them being better than this game in what it's trying to do"

Hope this helps

>>386780849
The dude is 24 apparently. Calling him a kid was just an attempt to say that his opinions on video games weren't sufficient.

>>386781282
yes vice city is way superior

>>386781303
for me it feels drawn out and the story is worse

>>386781583
No you retard, if he was a kid then the argument would have stuck. Notice how after he said his age we continued to argue with a different argument.

>>386781303
it lost the verve once had, at least for me. also newer GTA games are quite better, even plot-wise

>>386781573
You're not wrong, but I don't completely agree since there are, of course, exceptions. I played Jet Set Radio for the first time in December 2014 and it quickly became one of my all-time favourites. I greatly prefer it over Future.
Just an example that the "standards have evolved thus this is inherently less good" argument isn't always applicable.

>>386781573
Standards for vidya is at an all-time low though. Unless you're talking strictly about graphics, and even then, good art won't "age."

Good game design doesn't age either. There's a reason people have been playing chess for thousands of years

>>386774835
Played Banjo for the first time 2 months ago. It wasn't bad it's not GOAT but it's still fun

>>386782603
>Standards for vidya is at an all-time low though
Nostalgiafaggot detected

>>386782992
Sorry, I prefer games. Those things with rules, objectives, limitations, and goals. Not walking simulators and "cinematic experiences"

>>386781495
>Well I did, and yet I am apparently a casual
If you use save states to basically rewind time and make yourself a god, then yeah, you don't need to bother with stealth.

However, if you play on the actual N64 you do need to use stealth unless you are really uncannily good at running to your objectives without dying.

>I wasn't sure how far the stealth went, since in the first level, enemies seemed to know I was there as soon as I went around the first bend,
Some levels aren't really stealth levels, so the stealth isn't as important. On that bunker chokepoint, they'll always see you coming. I'm surprised you don't know more about the game's stealth considering the Bunker 2 level is all about stealth and you claim to have beat the game. Suppose emulation may really change the experience.

>>386783767

Yes I did save scum. On Bunker 2 I did kill some guys stealthily but didn't know someone around the corner saw a dead body, and I quicksaved and basically fucked myself over as he got alerted so I had to shoot my way through he rest of the level. Very hard.

Also on that level where you get captured, the soldier with the gun always walks in the room to kill you anyways, so even if I got lucky and got 2 headshots on the cops interogating me, the soldier would walk in, I'd shoot him but there would be some other guy near the door and he'd walk in too then I'd just get pilled on by about 20 enemies.

I could tell someone was a bit wrong with some of the levels, having way more enemies than seemed like they were meant for. But then other levels just felt absolutely fine and normal going in all guns blazing.

>>386784226
Get a real N64, a CRT, play on 00 Agent, configure the controls to your liking, and play it stealthy. I guarantee you'll have a fun fucking time. You'll die a lot at first and have to restart missions, but the feeling of getting through a mission is fucking beautiful catharsis man.

>>386784645

No I don't really feel like playing it again. I'd rather play Perfect Dark next. I actually only finished Goldeneye 2 days ago.

Perfect Dark is the same but with a different setting right? I will just try to play that a bit more stealthy. And I'd rather play emulated than on an original console, especially in the case of the N64 since all Nintendo stuff is marked up by scalpers.

>>386784883
>Perfect Dark is the same but with a different setting right?
Yes, good enough. Go play that. No save states. Stealth it up.

>>386784883
Perfect Dark is pretty much Goldeneye perfected or as close as it could get on the N64. Go for it nigga play the hardest difficulty it's fun

>>386772973
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Why are nintendo faggots so delusional

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Super mario 64 aged well. Wtf are you talking about?