Undertale Japanese

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>>386758874

Why is this significant to his character or in any way at all

I'm not a giant weeb faggot so I don't know what you're on about. Can I get some context?

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>>386758874

>>386759108
This

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As someone who doesn't watch cartoons for kids nor speak that slant-eyed devil-tongue: What?

Why did japs get a translation of this pozzed faggot shit when they already have the Mother series

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On this day, OP was a massive faggot

>>386758874
You should probably explain the significance of this.

>>386758874
>font doesn't even resemble comic sans
one job

>>386758874
Is the text in the jap version not pixelated or something?

This doesn't sound very big but if I remember correctly it caused quite a bit of drama on nip Twitter.

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yeah i totally get the significance of that
no i fucking dont

>>386759282
Why? Please explain what is significant about any of this, I don't speak Moonrunes

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>>386759038
>>386759108
>>386759297
This. What's going on here, Opie

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Advanced bait

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ITT: didn't learn Japanese

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>Similar to 俺 ore, but more casual. Evokes a person with a rural background, a "country bumpkin".
It's pathetic that despite having the entire world at your fingertips, you can't be assed to google a word and understand its meaning.

*tips katana*

>caring about some gook speak
What are you, a nerd or something

>>386759472
Okay but why the fuss over it

>>386759472
Yeah, we can Google the words themselves, but we have no idea why this is significant and why "sansfags" have been btfo

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>>386759472
That tells us what the word means, not why it's apparently such a big deal.

>>386759409
We all lost in this game of reverse 12 dimensional underwater multiplayer solitaire by post

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>>386758874
Is that even official?

>>386759380
In Japan, referring to yourself as 'oria' means you're a foreigner, or you're 'not local'. In the terms of video games this means that Sans is from a different world.

So basically, Sans is Ness

>>386759332
It's what the op says, nips wanted him to refer to himself with "ore" but the translators localised it as "oira", they both have kinda different meaning and stereotypes behind who uses them.

>>386758874
>oira - Similar to 俺 ore, but more casual. Evokes a person with a rural background, a "country bumpkin".
>ore - Frequently used by men. Establishes a sense of masculinity. Can be seen as rude depending on the context. Emphasizes one's own status when used with peers and with those who are younger or of lesser status. Among close friends or family, its use conveys familiarity rather than masculinity or superiority. It was used by both genders until the late Edo period and still is in some dialects. Also oi in Kyushu dialect.
>boku - Used by males of all ages; very often used by boys. Perceived as humble, but can also carry an undertone of "feeling young" when used by males of older age. Also used when casually giving deference; "servant" uses the same kanji (僕 shimobe). Can also be used as a second-person pronoun toward male children (English equivalent – "kid" or "squirt").
I don't see what the problem.

>>386759547
>>386759573
>>386759582
I'm guessing it has to do with the "FUCK ME HARDER DADDY" Sansfags or something related to >>386759660

>>386759472
>using the internet for anything other than arguements,cat pictures and porn
Besides, what's the issue, he lives in the middle of fucking nowhere, he seems to hide the fact that he's a smartass, so it works. For all you know it changes it during the serious shit, if not who cares

>>386759332
Probably because there are like a dozen pronouns to refer to oneself in Japanese and some of them come off as pretentious or douchie

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>>386758874

Someone who uses "boku" to refer to themselves can be seen as either young or humble. "Ore" is for your meathead locker-room types. "Oira" is sort of like "ore", but comes across as someone from the backwoods, a country type.

Basically the use of "oira" is characterizing Sans as a manly man from the country, which really doesn't make much sense to me but then again who really cares

>>386759645
You mean Varik, right?

>>386759742
Implying Sans isn't the manliest character in all of Undertale

Is it true that they translated it in a way that evokes the same style as the writing in Mother/Earthbound? Any nip anons confirm?

>>386759195
Because they need to play it done right, bigot.

>>386759645
fug :DDD

>>386759582
>>386759547
The reason they got so autistic over it is because they thought it wasn't a very "in character" way for him to speak.

>>386759645
>>386759660
>>386759742

thank you for the explanations still doesn't make much sense why people might be shitting their pants over this but whatever. Undertale fans I guess.

>>386759820
What are you talking about? The manliest character is obviously Aaron

>>386759905
Thanks for clearing it up.
OP is still a fag

>>386759928
Have you seen anyone shitting their pants besides the retarded OP?

>>386759928
/v/ would do the same shit over some name localization changes on japanese games.

>>386759928
Really, it's just some /a/utist getting giddy over Chinese chicken-scratchings

>>386759667
>oira
>casual
Seems like it fits Sans, then. I don't know what the huge problem is. He's always been a laid back character.

>>386759961
You can't get manlier than the ketchup drinking fat lazy skeleton who makes puns and can secretly fuck your shit up.

Aaron's sexy as hell tho, no homo

>>386758874
>kanji in super nintendo games but only kana available in this game

>>386759928
So in other words, it's fucking nothing.

>>386758874
>>386759645
That's less foreigner and more of a country hick dialect.

Sans is a hillbilly farmer.

>>386759742
He lives in monster village tho which is kinda like in the middle of nowhere?

To clarify because apparently no one else wants to do so: the reason this is a "big deal" is because before the official translation was a thing, there was a big divide between Japanese Undertale fans on how Sans should refer to himself, with some saying he should say "boku" and others saying it should be "ore", and them being very angry and thinking the other one is not "in character".

The official translation went with "oira", which nobody really expected.

Yes, it's autistic. No, I don't know why OP made a thread about it on 4chan.

>>386760094
undertale is for children who can't into kanji

Question i always wanted to know:

Are there the same autists in Japan crying over "censorship" ?
Are there neckbeards in Japan saying you cant experience a game until you leanered English?

>>386760094
Mother 3 was all hiragana and katakana too. The fan translation team talked about that during development and mentioned it's one of the reasons it was so easy to translate and why english characters fit so well in the textboxes.

>>386760094
>>386760158
It's an intentional throwback to Mother 3

>>386759195
Same question

>>386759905
But it fits him perfectly with what you can eventually find about him. If anything it just hints to that kind of thing earlier but it's definitely in character overall, moreso than the others sound.

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>>386759195
I believe Undertale is pretty popular in Japan, but even putting that aside, having a Japanese translation could be seen as another one of the unfunny anime jokes that Undertale already has a couple of.

>>386760150
How can jap nerds outautism every other fanbase of every nationality every time? They're seriously crazy.

>>386760229
Don't most games brought to Japan need to be censored heavily to be sold? iirc games like No More Heros was censored in Japan. There are autists all over the world even Japan but I doubt many of them play games from overseas and if they do they don't care about censorship.

I think Sans is more of an Ore guy than the faggot Boku so Oira is fine.

>>386759472
Sounds fitting? What is the problem then?

http://undertale.jp/

Comes out next week in Japan.

>>386760125
Yeah but did he come off as a country bumpkin when you talked to him in English? That's why people are annoyed, because the use of certain words completely changes how you perceive the character.

I don't really care because I'm not Japanese but that's what the big fuss is over.

>>386760150
It should be boku because the guy acts fucking gay

>>386759645
It means you are a country bumpkin
but less so than Goku's "ora"

>>386760573
Oh wait that's the wrong skeleton

>>386760573
Ore is for fags that are insecure about it.

>>386759928
>still doesn't make much sense why people might be shitting their pants over this but whatever
/v/ does the same always posting shit from censored gaming. or how sometimes a line gets changed when localized, calling it "Censorship".

What is surprising to me though, is how the Japanese Undertale fans are up in arms about this. I thought Japan wasn't as autistic as the Western audience when it came to localization of Western games.

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>tfw about to buy physical PS4 edition for $60
Should I pull the trigger /v/? I already bought it day one on PC but I'd like to have a physical copy.

>>386760679
>I thought Japan wasn't as autistic as the Western audience when it came to localization of Western games.
Shit works both ways

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>They get translated Undertale
>We don't get translated doujins
Goddamn slant eyed yellow vermin

>>386760094
>>386760158
>>386760271
Wait japanase have several ways to write? What is the point?

>>386760742
Why do they bother writing names in english

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>>386760335
call me when they start making their own sansonas because multiverse or some shit

>>386760679
>What is surprising to me though, is how the Japanese Undertale fans are up in arms about this
They're not

>>386760679
>, is how the Japanese Undertale fans are up in arms about this
Are you sure this isn't just what the kotaku article wanted you to think?

>>386760742
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGeXSeTVYAApVu5.jpg:large
The porn that appears doesn't need a tl to fap to it.

>>386760706
yes, it's collector's edition
if I had the money I'd do it

Sans is the worst character in Undertale with the worst fans desu so who cares

>>386760836
to confuse americans

>>386760836
Chinese characters take a long time to learn so kana will usually be availible in games like pokemon for young children.
It's hard to read adult level texts in kana and it has other problems such as not being space efficient.

>>386759195
Because the last mother game came out what

30 years ago?

Mother is old,no shit the japs are gonna play this when everyone is starved for a sequel

>>386760150
>they both had a big argument over which it would be and it turned out they were both completely wrong
That's funny.

>>386760836
It's somewhat similar to lowercase and uppercase for english but with kanji thrown in too

>>386760858
Why do so many animes have gratuitous engrish?

>>386760860
That's baby shit, the real autism was all of those sound clouds of shit like "Sans comforts dfab human on their peroid"

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>>386761095
>It's somewhat similar to lowercase and uppercase for english
Thank you no one ever seems to realize that katakana and hiragana are just like upper and lower case in english.
People always complain that katakana exists and it's the same shit as uppercase but no one realizes this.

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>>386761193
That doesn't mean I want to learn Katakana when I already know hiragana just fine
にほんごおばかです。

>>386760836
In short, Japanese couldn't invent space.
Space resolves literally all problems.

>>386761336
this is why i abandoned by knowledge of uppercase letters

>>386760679
>What is surprising to me though, is how the Japanese Undertale fans are up in arms about this.
They aren't. They were "up in arms" arguing with each other before the translation came out.

When the translation clarified it as "oira" they basically all went "oh, ok" and went on with their day.

I don't know where you got the idea that they were up in arms about oira. OP?

>>386759409
I don't remember this part from F/SN

>>386761119
i don't know what any of that means and i don't want to know, ever.

never post that again.

>>386760858
Japanese spelling is mostly tied to the pronunciation, so if I had to guess, the japs just have no idea how to actually pronounce their names and therefore don't really know how to translate them to kana.
Either that, or Japs just have a hard on for english.

>>386760094
I thought it was because sans' text was in comic sans and lowercase only (iirc) and therefore childish looking, just like something written only in hiragana.

>>386761193
This doesn't explain or even apologize for the presence of Kanji though.

>>386759645
It mean's you're of lower ilk; usually for a bumpkin. It's like being from out-of-town at most.

>>386761193
Katakana is mainly used as English

オイラはないわ

>>386761760
Katakana is used for a variety of things not just the representation of foreign words

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>>386761595
Excuse the Tumblr it was the only one I could find.

>Yes, it's autistic. No, I don't know why OP made a thread about it on 4chan.
come on anon...

>>386761731
learn it you bitch

>>386761473
There was literally a hashtag on Twitter that exploded as soon as the reveal happened because it was such a shock to JP Undertale fans. You could fucking google it and see for yourself.

how does this btfo people

>>386761983
what was it

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>>386761892

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>>386761440
alright that got me

>>386762080
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=oira+sans

>>386759195
Because Mother is nothing like Undertale besides aesthetics.

>>386761983
No shit, it was a "shock" because it was so unexpected for them to both be wrong in a huge debate among fans. That doesn't mean they're mad about it retard.

>>386760150
This is for Pearl Harbor.

>>386760836
Casual filter. You are considered legally retarded if you can't learn all 3.

Ching chong ping pong you too I guess.

>>386759645
How does that make any sense?
>sand says he is a foreign
>must be from my favorite game

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>write from right to left and up to down
>this rule is often omitted because it doesn't work in any form of media besides books
>3 writing systems because they can't be assed to use spaces
>kanji have a fuckton of readings and are therefore impossible to read without knowing the word the kanji is in as there is no rule that indicates which reading is used
>names are written in random ass kanji and parents usually fuck with the readings too, making it reading names very hard even for japanese people

Why is this language such a trainwreck? At least the grammar is easy as fuck.

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>>386758874
Thanks for reminding me I had to preorder this

>>386761874
I don't speak jap, but as far as I understand it is used similarly as italics are used in the west. To highlight things and make them stand out. Mango also uses it for sound depiction.

>>386762201
>kotaku article
>interprets few random tweets from nobodies as "fan frenzy"
well, you seem like the perfect audience for kotaku all right.

>>386762606
All languages have things about them which are completely fucked because unfucking a language takes a TON of work and reeducation.

>>386758874
SUTEVEN CHAN
AFTERU
NOTO
SURUBIBINGU

>>386761892
>account not found
Fuck. I need to hear this. Also, "junkrat educates mccree about periods" post mentioned in one of the search results for the first thing.

>>386762606
Yeah the names are pretty frustrating.
I should probably just study them separately.

>>386761972
I want to learn jap speak, but Kanji is really making me think it's not worth it. Also, I don't want to be around weeaboos.

>>386762790
This. Who the fuck came up with irregular verbs? Who came up with assigning gender to inanimate objects?

>>386762795
iirc it was done by a girl trying to do a really deep (cr1tikal style) voice, she also did some dom and sub shit (some of them are still up but I don't know if it's her)

also
>junkrat educates mcree on periods

what's with Tumblr and their peroid fetish?

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>>386761108
Because it's cool

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How does it make you feel that Shigesato Itoi probably played Undertale with the Japanese localization? You will never have someone you look up to acknowledge and enjoy something you've made

>>386761413
Funny how it was a dude who could barely read who had the idea of space and punctuation.

>>386763056
>Who came up with assigning gender to inanimate objects?
my cutlery definitely need separate genders you sexist fuck
my spoon is male, my fork is female and my knife is neuter

>>386763231
Actually in French, spoons and forks are females while knives are male.

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>>386759645
I thought it was common knowledge that Sans is Steven after not surviving

>>386763169
Unlikely since it comes out in Japanese in 6 days

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>>386762606
Forgot to add this
>everything is context based, including grammar which leads to stuff like pic related

>>386762594
game theory guy confused the earthbound references with evidences for his headcanon
now everyone shitpost about it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYdDUXyFocY

>>386762659
>it's only 25 dollars

Wow, what. I heard somewhere it was damn near a full-priced console game. Suddenly I want to get it just for the tiny locket. It plays the little tune, right?

>>386762873
It takes a lot of effort. You have to be up for the challenge before you go into it because it will take a lot of work.
I wouldn't worry about being around weaboos or anything I don't really think that's a problem unless you're talking about taking a class for it but I don't know I never took one.
I think it's been super useful for me and totally worth the time. I learned using the djt threads on /a/ but I think those moved to /jp/ or something and maybe there's a thread on 8ch instead

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>>386763430
Oh god...

>>386763427
That's just word order in English.

>>386758874
last time I tried playing UT the writing made me vomit my insides. Is it safe to assume that playing it in moonrunes would significantly improve my enjoyment of the game since I won't understand shit anymore?

>>386763649
They're on /jp/ and /int/ but I've found that /jp/ actually helps more and has less shitposting but both are full of beginners who think they're great give advice so take everything on there with a grain of salt or just use all the resources they have and never post in the threads.

>>386762873
If you have the time and have shit in Japanese you really like and want to read/watch just do it, learning a language is satisfying and you get the bonus of not relying on shitty translations.

>>386764048
The /int/ thread has more Japanese people but half the thread is filled with people learning languages to fuck women and the whole thing is filled with retards.
Not worthwhile

>>386763427
It's like when you show kids punctuations changes sentences meaning, but in reality, 80% of those sound like ass and are only "technically" correct, and not "speech logic" correct.
Japanese usage is important, it's not like American and the "if you understand I'm right" stupidity

>>386763451
You're thinking the collector's edition, which is indeed like 60 or 70 bucks. Just the game is $25 with nothing else.

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>>386760742
https://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=58892131
>Japanese fanart of western fanart
I don't know what's real anymore

>>386762873
>>386763649
any "weeaboos" will drop out by the first semester, although learning on your own is more efficient if you just want to read

>>386760150
Doesn't it make sense tho ugh? He should use a folksy word when He's speaking in comic sans font, and then if he has to say "I" when speaking in the serious text he should use a more serious word.