what went wrong

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>>386747996
Slayde. I was hoping we would get another Valter type villian but instead we got some weird rapist

>>386747996
it literally got overshadowed by a mobile game

Mediocre dub.

>>386747996
no waifu and children

>>386747996

not much really
people just dont want a good game anymore they want mobile shit

>>386748668
To be fair, every Fire Emblem game has been overshadowed by the mobile game within half a year of its release.

>>386748947
While that's technically true, it applied to Echoes from the moment it was announced, to the moment it released, and every moment since.
At least other games had a chance to exist in the times before gachashit.

Nothing really, I played majority of the fire emblem games and enjoyed this one the most.

The only negative was that it was too easy, only big issue I can think of.
The game itself offered a slightly new formula while still making it fire emblem, with a lot of changes that I enjoyed.
>>386748919 said it best tho

>>386747996
Absolutely nothing. They took the unplayable piece of shit that was Gaiden and actually made it playable. No Grind No Sidequests Blitzkrieg Hard-Classic is an exciting challenge run.

>>386747996
>New FE game every 16 months
>no self insert romance shit
>on an underpowered system

Nah, I'm good. Hope the next one is on switch, I can wait a bit.

>>386747996
Not much, I liked it a lot.

>>386749786
>No self insert romance shit
>As a negative

Holy fuck do I hate Nu-Fire Emblem and its fans

>>386747996
They remade a game that's considered the black sheep of the series; while admirable, a remake usually relies on the already established fan-base to be profitable.

>>386747996
I liked it, just not a fan of how hard they stuck with the original in some areas. They could have taken more liberties and remade the maps to be more challenging. I really liked the presentation with the game though, but it's very clear that this was basically the Zelda 2 for Fire Emblem.

>>386747996
It actually went very well considering, it's just that the original wasn't a very good game. You can polish a turd all you want but it's still a turd.

Haven't played the original Jap games. Which one do people think they should Echoes next? I've heard Genealogy was good.

I like it so far, but I don't have any motivation to play it. I can't really explain why. It just doesn't 'feel' right.

>>386747996
Getting valentia's weapons is a pain, but just tgat, everything else is great

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>>386749786
>self insert romance shit would be a positive
This is my first Fire Emblem and even I know you're the worst of the fanbase.

>>386747996
can't choose faye.

The mistake was faithfully remaking a shit game.

>>386750074

if you are going to remake something do something that was shit or obsolete. Echoes quite frankly was the old guard at ISIS trying to prove they still got it. There is very little "nu" shit in here.

>>386747996
>what went wrong


It wasn't an FE 8 remake.

>>386752576

>can't choose a girl that wasn't in the original that was only put in to mock nu awakening babby romance faggots

Faye is bae and all but her love being unrequited is the point.

>>386747996

They didn't market it. Even on /feg/ we have people coming in asking when the game's going to be released.

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>>386747996
People expected something other than a faithful remake of Gaiden which was exactly what was on the tin from the beginning. It also didn't get the same marketing push Awakening and Fates had.
>>386748795
pic related

>>386747996
It's Gaiden. Even Kaga said he doesn't like how much he had to reuse his shit maps due to limitations but they didn't change anything because lul faithful remake.

>>386747996

Game is incredibly easy
No reason to make anyone but a mercenary
Obscure design choices (rezone 10 times to make a harder fight appear?)
Map game terrible

It was all right, but nothing memorable if I'm being honest.

>>386747996

>excellent soundtrack (best in the 3DS era anyway FIGHT ME BRO THE WAY TO THE END IS THAT GOOD)
>great dub
>improving an obsolete game

my only gripes were bad map design and it was a tad easy compared to Conquest. Other than that I fucking loved it. Nu fe fans are cancer anyway I'd rather have a simple story and characters while not fucking up than a game with too much going on and forced romance everywhere. Fates was good from a gameplay perspective from absolutely cancer in every other regard. The reason people are prefering Echoes is because it is better as an overall package. There is no "invisible kingdom with no name" bullshit, shit localization, MUH CENSORSHIP, or Limited Edition scalper gouging. DLC is kind of bad but it is minimal and not needed to beat the game on its hardest mode at ALL. I'm half and half on the story dlc since none of it was present in Gaiden. Just youtube the extra plot threads if you are interested. FUCKING PEASANTS does get good backstory that justifies why he did what he did better and the friendship he had with Clive.

>>386748795

>Berkut

the voice actor strike has literally been the best thing to happen to dubs in years. newer actors are getting a chance to shine. we're no longer in the 90s where we had to rely on the printer repairman for shit dubs. A million people have voices to get in the industry and the only thing holding it up was legacy actors clogging up the roles.

>>386753646
everytime I think 3ds FE has outdone itself in the soundtrack department I'm proven wrong. https://youtu.be/73Veyuy4kKg

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>>386747996
Duma Tower hands down.
Fuck that dungeon, I've played the game 3 times and it just destroys any and all momentum I've built up and takes me weeks to get around finishing it because I hate it so much.
And for your trouble you're met with Celica taking Jedah's bait.

>>386753870
I agree with everything you said but I still prefer the freedom to dual audio.

>>386753870
it's because all the old voice actors revealed themselves to be union commies so new blood flooded in which actually enjoy the roles they end up doing. Look up Boey's VA on twitter, dude is a huge autistic JoJofag. Things were really shaky when the strike first started, but dubs have genuinely improved as of late.

>>386753229

>Game is incredibly easy
take off the training wheels
>No reason to make anyone but a mercenary
Dread Knight is silly but you miss spelled Bow Knight
>Obscure design choices (rezone 10 times to make a harder fight appear?)
the only excuse i have is that it is a carryover from the original not defending it just saying why
>Map game terrible
dungeon encounters having intricate maps would have made the game ten times longer. i do agree but it the remake excuse.

>>386754239
>Bow Knights
>good
what kind of crazy ass growths did you end up getting you absolute madman

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>>386752914
Fernand's actor was fucking great as well.

>I knew. I always knew. None of my misfortunes were anyone else's fault. Yet if the world is rotten, then who permitted it to be so? It's me, and no one else. I took anger better aimed at myself, and turned it on the defenseless masses. I've failed my duty as a nobleman.
>Good... I am... rather tired. Tired of despair. Tired of rage. But Clive, I'm glad I got to see you one last time. You were right... You chose the right king. You always were the friend I was proudest to...

>>386754021

doesn't Echoes have dual audio?

>>386752795
>was only put in to mock nu awakening babby romance faggots
Is this what FE oldfags actually think? That IS put in Faye to make fun of NuFE fags? C'mon anon.

>>386754519
Nope.

>>386754239

>take off the training wheels

I'm not sure what you mean by that. Play an all archer setup? How do you make this game difficult

Celica was a fucking moron.

>>386754239
>the only excuse i have is that it is a carryover from the original
I'm pretty sure it wasn't even in the original, or at the very least it was rare enough there that I never encountered it.
Maybe they just thought it would be cute to add something retarded enough to feel like an obstuse NES-era mechanic.

>>386752407
I want romance back but more like FE4. My unit completely optional and if in preferably not as the mc. Duotagonist is fine.

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>>386754627
In my opinion, Celica's decisions weren't irrational for someone who thought that the dragon gods were needed for mankind to exist. Since that's all they've known in the history of their continent.
Celica doesn't have the gusto of Alm to say fuck the gods, or risk being wrong and potentially leaving the continent to starve to death due to her actions.
Trusting in Jedah to not kill her was dumb, but other than that there isn't much to fault her on.

>>386747996

the original game sucked so there's only so much you can improve in a remaster

the only good 3DS FE so far is Conquest

The most important part, the gameplay, was awful
There's only so much that the additions like OST, voice acting, models and art can do to keep me interested in the game. I just wasn't having fun and dropped it at chapter 4

Surprised how few Celica lewds there are.

>>386755409
Sounds like the post of a thief needs to constantly be bombarded with rewards.

>>386755180
>the only good 3DS FE so far is Conquest

game with no grind at all does not work well for me. i prefer birthright though.

>>386753912
https://youtu.be/_Ow-Q5T84a0

I prefer this one myself.

Final dungeon was ass. Maps were ass. I liked having Warp on my side though. Sending Alm right into the middle of a fray and watching him rip everything to shreds was fun

>>386755656
Where are the Genny lewds?

>>386755687
The fuck are you saying?

>>386754571

>put in only to add a potential third wheel to the Almbowl
>appeals to stalker tharjafags
>only character is a yandere rehash of Cuckdelia
>Alm has fucking none of it if you A her
>take her out and the plot does not change

>>386755691
>Game with no grind
Like pratically all the other FEs before it except for some exceptions?

>>386755691

grinding in FE was a mistake and it should never come back (but it almost definitely will). at least arena abuse came with a bit of a risk (although let's be honest you never died abusing arena unless you were careless or get super unlucky).

>>386754370
Did you never make a Killer bow?

>>386754370
Protip, don't use a steel bow.

>>386755997
Arena grinding is a thing in most the games though.

>>386755939

it is a reference to the fujoshi senior director that started in Awakening. she bitched about playtesting Sacred Stones for research because she had her thief die to a knight that she leeroy jenkins'd thinking she could have won. ISIS responded by making it easier.

>>386756150

yeah arena abuse is pretty stupid as well but it gets slightly less flak than grinding maps because of limited availability

>>386756223
Do you have a single fact to back that up?

>>386756223
I hate how theives have had their neice degraded into just being another sword unit, and then completely errased in Fates from a class into something unrelated

>>386756598

the THIEF ASSAULTS KNIGHT AND LOSES SOMEHOW SURPRISED thing is confirmed through interviews.

>>386747996

Was this game any good?
I passed by it because Fates didn't look like my cup of tea and I just didn't really feel Awakening that much but this is a remake right?

If I liked the old pre Awakening Emblems, will I like this one?

>>386747996
Nothing, the best 3DS FE out there hands down

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>>386755656
FE in general has shockingly few lewds.
People complain about how Awakening ruined the game with waifus, but if you think about it the only exceptions to the trend is Lucina, Tharja, and Camilla. They are the only ones popular enough to get consistent porn. Everyone else gets maybe a couple of images if they're lucky.

>>386756807
it's a faithful remake of Gaiden, take that how you will.

>>386756807
This one is a mixed bag, since it predates Awakening, but its a black sheep by itself.

I hate awakening, but I liked this one, so take that with a grain of salt. I'd rank it 2nd on the 3ds games behind Conquest.

>>386753912
This is genuinely awful.

>>386756976
You forgot Nowi. Weebs love their loli's.

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>>386756684
Did Conquest even have any chests? I'm trying to remember any, but I'm drawing a blank. If there were, there sure as hell weren't many.

>>386756807
If it's art/story type stuff that bothered you with the other games, you might find something to like in this one. Just beware the gameplay is really outdated.

>>386757139
Yes it did. Chests are the only place you can get a warp staff, so they're pretty fucking important.

>>386757139

I only just started playing Conquest and I'm on like chapter 15 or something but there has been several chests in the past three chapters I played, so yeah.

>>386757139

>gameplay outdated
Fine by me, I can handle older stuff

>>386757015
>>386757008

I'll be careful then, maybe I'll see if I can find it cheap on craigslist

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>>386757139
Conquest had Chests on over half of the maps.

>>386757139
There were plenty of chests. Fugas wild ride has 3 iirc and one had a dragonstone+. Nina's paralogues is filled with chests and she, as well as a few other thieves, were beelining to them to loot them. I don't remember everything that was in that paralogue but a big reward was a shining bow.

>>386757481
This, and the maps without chests generally had enough interesting shit going on where it was fine they weren't present, except for the Kitsune village and Sakura maps

>>386755952
And this means that IS purposely wanted to mock the same audience who are now their main source of income? anon plz.

>>386757468
Let me put it this way.
No one liked Gaiden.

>>386756684

But thieves were just sword units? They only introduced knives in PoR. They were basically myrmidons that could steal shit. If anything they made the thief unit (i.e. ninjas, maids and butlers) more unique in Fates because the knives now debuffed units.

>>386757604
>Fuga's wild rude
Fuck I forgot about that nightmare

>>386757604
3000g
Shining Bow
Goddess Icon
Partner seal

Nothing
It was great

>>386757690
That map was satisfying once I figured out how to abuse the wind well enough.

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>>386757690
Easy, I just had Odin tank it with the wrong tome.

>>386757891

>someone actually used Odin

i was kinda sad magic was so whack in Fates. i don't think I used any of the magic units outside of the Royals because they were all OP

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>>386757891
>Mage
>Tanking anything
What?

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>>386757994
Magic is more than fine.

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>>386758049
Tanky mage man.

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>>386757376
>>386757404
>>386757481
>>386757604
Well huh. Maybe I have a really poor memory then because I honestly don't remember any of this shit. I never did get any of the paralogues besides Mozu's though.

>>386754585
By gimping yourself extremely hard. Echoes is by no means hard.

>>386754239
>the remake excuse.

It being a remake doesn't excuse it from being shit.

>>386754585
Make all the villagers cavs.

>>386755952
>take her out and the plot does not change

You can say this for many Echoes characters.

>>386757994
Problem with magic was all the mages aren't very good.

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>playing Conquest
>maps actually have objectives and things going on so you need to think about your moves and actually move your army around the map
>playing Awakening and Birthright
>maps consists of 50 enemies equally spaced from each other and gameplay consists of moving 1 tile each turn and pulling and killing each enemy. the only exciting thing that ever happens is maybe a pegasus spawns on the side of the map and then stabs your healer in the face so you have to restart

what is with the discrepancy in quality

>>386758220
Chapter 9 has 2 chests
Chapter 11 has 2 chests
Chapter 12 has 2 chests
Chapter 14 has 2 chests
Chapter 17 has 2 chests
Chapter 18 has 2 chests
Chapter 20 has 3 chests
Chapter 23 has 2 chests
Chapter 25 has 2 chests

>>386758550
At least it isn't Revelation. That shit feels like some ridiculous stuff someone would come up with for a rom hack.

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Fuck Effie, what a horrible unit.

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>>386747996
/v/ went wrong.
The game is great. Not flawless but still very solid with a lot of passion put into it.
But you can't really work with much when your marketing consists of a few adult swim commercials in the dead of night and a couple videos on Nintendo's YT channel.
I love the game, got pretty invested in it.

>>386749295
Basically this, nothing to add

>>386748537
>got some weird rapist
So, Valter?

>>386758775

>16 speed knight

what the fuCK

Celica is such a dumb bitch

Her story was awful

>>386758919
Every single female knight in the Fire Emblem series has had a higher speed growth than defence growth.

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I want to like Echoes because of how over and beyond it goes for presentation, but the gameplay actively makes me want to kill myself.
In particular, there are some maps where it's nothing but a dozen or more of the same enemies, maybe a few promoted ones in the mix.

>>386748795
Says no man who's mind is corrupted by a mad god.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJgyKXb9DeA

>>386758919
That is nothing, in echoes, after some dread knight loops, lucas and fornick become barons with 30+ speed

>>386752269
by the time i could have searched for the fabled weapons i had already beaten all of the extra content and dlc and it was so pointless it hurt.

>>386759158
>dread knight loops
Please tell me that doesn't mean reclassing to merc > myrm > dread knight several times then going back to soldier > knight >baron.

For what purpose?

>>386759130
>Enter Echoes map
>3 Cavaliers are 6 turns away from me
I stopped playing after that.

>>386759302
There is no purpose.
Once you kill Grima there is nothing to do.

>>386752758
FE8 is probably the most overrated game in the series.

>>386759158
You forgot to mention that that's only with DLC.

>>386759516
Kek. Not even close. It doesn't even get all that much praise.

>>386747996
Retarded uninteressting story and characters. Shoulda remade FE4 instead.

>>386755952
>take her out and the plot does not change
How is this different from 90% of Fire Emblem characters in every game though? The series has permadeath, outside of a very small number of characters in each game which are literally not allowed to die to to plot relevance, the majority of people can be wiped out and nothing changes.

>>386759551
free DLC

>>386747996
Other than being maybe a little too loyal to the old maps, nothing. It made Gaiden playable and interesting, and although some of Gaiden's mechanics are still fucked, it's interesting how different it is compared to other Fire Emblems.

The presentation was top notch and the things they did add like Berkut and Fernand were incredible. They really added good depth to Gaiden's story and fleshed out the cast a lot.

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>>386759516
You shut your whore mouth, pilgrim.

>>386759389
I did those loops specifically to tackle thabes and kill grima. Hell, i did like 3 loops with Atlas before turning him into a near invencible bow knight.

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>>386759925
Is the post game really that bad? To the point where you need to do that?

>Playing Revelations
>Just beat chapter 18 and got all the story recruitable characters
>Including the weird off ones like Scarlet who I grinded some skills for in My Castle
>She's immediately killed in a cutscene before the start of the next chapter
WHAT THE FUCK?

The remakes have good sense, but I just wish they would shore up the gameplay.

>>386759925
You shouldn't need stats to beat Thabes.
You are just not using a good strategy.

>>386760003
>have all dlc and pirated 3ds
>get to overclass once
>one shot everything

>>386760003
I mostly did it for fun, i like to have powerhouses. Hell, i do EV and controlled nature training in pokemon JUST FOR FUCKING FUN.

>>386760032
While that shit was cheap considering you only have her for a chapter, I had feeling she was gonna die early.

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>>386760162
>strategy
>literally every encounter has the same exact layout
>only change is in the huge jump in stats

>>386747996
Apparently you can make a remake too faithful to the original.

>>386760304
Didn't the first of Marth's remakes have the same issue?

>>386760032
This is why i believe they can't remake genealogy, modern FE fanabse can't stand mandatory deaths.

>>386760369
Very much so.
But they are at least re-playable.

>>386759902
It's far too easy, monster encounters are retarded, and the way the game splits the story and makes you choose either good story and negligible maps or good maps and a negligible story (outside of Lyon) is fucking dumb. People just love it because everyone who didn't play 7 played it first.

>>386760374
Are you going to to justify how Shdaow Dragon forced you to kill units to recruit certain ones next?

>>386760402
Shadow Dragon is far worse.

>>386760374
I've seen so many people get iffy over stuff like that. Or like Kaze dying if you don't a certain support level. It's not new shit, hell Jill can defect back to her father under similar reasons in PoR.

>>386760473
>Lyon
It's more than Lyon.
The story is much better in Ephraim's route.

>>386760003
Grima's a pretty powerful superboss. I wish more FE had optional superbosses actually, considering how many final bosses fall pretty flat in terms of power, like Ashnard or Dragon form Garon.

>>386759516
>FE7 & FE9 are probably the most overrated games in the series.

fify

>>386760003
The postgame isn't worth playing at all. It reinforces the game as largely nothing but a stats festival.

>>386747996
>Awful barebones cast with barely any development
>story thematically contradicts itself, has awful pacing, is very repetitive, and is just a slightly tweaked version of Revelations
>Awful gameplay due to terrible map and enemy design and poor mechanic choices
At least the music is good.

>>386760575
But it's more replayable as you can actually have drastically different experiences each time you play it.
>>386760501
Actually that's more on the fact that people used to actually move on once they lost a unit back in the old days rather than reset the game.

>>386760609
>final bosses fall pretty flat in terms of power, like Ashnard
Are you talking about Regular Ashnard or Medallion!Ashnard?

>>386760575
Not even close.

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>When you sister of witches goes witch hunting

>>386760715
Ashnard in general was a very easy to beat boss despite all the fanfare.

>>386760601
The story is almost non-existent in Ephraim's route other than the parts where you meet back up with Eirika, and you completely bypass any story for Joshua and Cormag. Lyon is much better in his route though, and Ephraim is a better Lord because Eirika is lethally retarded.

>>386760713
>Actually that's more on the fact that people used to actually move on once they lost a unit back in the old days rather than reset the game.
Which never happened

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>>386760759
Fuck you just reminded me how ugly the sprites were in that game.

>>386753870
Aside from some boring voices like Python and that loli mage that clearly sounds like an adult, the dub was a solid 8/10. It wasn't that much of a pain to listen to.

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>>386760903

>>386760713
>Actually that's more on the fact that people used to actually move on once they lost a unit back in the old days rather than reset the game.
That's literally not true. "Ironman" has been a distinction for a very long time for a reason. People have always been resetting to try and beat the game without any deaths, or at least minimal deaths. It's an entry-level way to play FE.

Those who are first playing the series or children who are just starting out tend to not reset on their first couple games because they just want to play the game instead of being autistic like long-time fans, and the games tend to hand you enough prepromotes as it goes on to get you through. But once people realize trained from the start units are better and that you get better the more you play the games you want to hang on to your units more. Resetting the chapter over a death is a fine enough punishment.

>>386760868
Actually you get more backstory rather than vengence in Ephraim's route for both Cormag and Joshua.

>>386761148
>But once people realize trained from the start units are better
I'd wager only Echoes has this as a fact.

>>386761148
>People have always been resetting to try and beat the game without any deaths, or at least minimal deaths
Hell even the developers said that they did this.

>>386760671

>barebones cast

original had literally zero dialogue between units. only the story beats between levels had anything. Also no Berkut so the original is inferior by default.
>tweaked revelations
I forgot the part in Echoes where you can just play your favorites fort he entire game and there is an invisible kingdom that everyone knows about but no one can say it or revealed or you will LITERALLY get sent to the shadow realm.

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>>386760903
Fuck you, the sprites are great.
>sprites are faithful updates of the originals
>collector's edition comes with pins of Marth, Alm, and Celica
>Alm and Celica actually carry some sense of legacy since they do resemble the sprites of the NES period without looking too flat
>Marth is next to them as just an edited Lucina sprite from Awakening

Ironman is patrician taste.

https://serenesforest.net/forums/index.php?/topic/63226-just-finished-conquest-hard-iron-man-and-had-to-gushvent/

>>386761287
>there is an invisible kingdom that everyone knows about but no one can say it or revealed or you will LITERALLY get sent to the shadow realm.
Goddamn I'm still mad about that. That was truly stupid as fuck.

>Remake the worst FE game
>Surprise that it's still shit

>>386761287
Don't forget that Revelations is the only canon ending because of the AU DLC.

>>386760979

>loli mage

Delthea? Genny and Mae were fine.

>>386756684
>hate how thieves are just another sword unit now
>hate when they make 2 unique non-sword thief classes
what the fuck do you want

>>386761268
Base units are almost always better to train than prepromotes.

>>386756598
Don't reply to witchhunt anon.

>>386761657
Yeah Delthea. Genny sounds and looks adorable, makes me want to hug her.

>>386756684
The fuck? Thieves were just weak sword units with a niche to steal shit before, now they have even more specialization by being able to debuff shit and throwing knives are fantastic anti-mage tactics. Thieves and Outlaws are fucking awesome, I never brought as many into battle as I did in Fates.

>>386757994
Odin isn't bad. He has Eliwood syndrome with his growths, except unlike Eliwood he has more options.

>>386758919
Radiant Dawn might blow your mind.

>>386761845
>tfw feeding her holey cheese
>tfw I realize she's actually the least picky out of the entire cast in terms of food

>>386759216
>>386752269
I just hacked them in around endgame. I already had extras of all the Archanea regalia so I swapped one of each out.

>>386761743
Incorrect.
The best units in almost every fire emblem has always been a pre-premote.
From Percival in 6, to Marcus in 7, Seth in 8, Titania in 9, Haar (Probably doesn't count) in 10, Wendell in FE3 book 1, Sigurd in 4, Dagdar for combat in 5, Xander/Camilla in Conquest/Revelation, Scarlet/Ryoma in Birthright
And Camus in BS Fire emblem.

>>386760759
Was there any special dialogue if Sonya fought the witches in the final level?

>>386762085
Saying Haar is best in 10 because he's a prepromote is disingenuous since almost everyone after part 1 is a prepromote.

>>386762187
I think only against Jedah when he has the dracoshield. Come to think of it, did they ever explain where he got the dracoshield and why he didn't use it on the final map?

>>386762338
It's dragons. Ain't gotta explain shit. And that's pretty disappointing. It would have been poetic to have Sonya fight her corrupted sisters

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>>386747996
>Most characters only have one support with one other character, and none of them are very long, interesting, or add depth to any of the cast
>Absurd overabundance of enemy mages lategame, several different levels could be qualified under 'that one obnoxious mage-themed level'
>Boss narrative themes are spelled out for you excruciatingly slowly (Muh classism, muh fate, etc)
>Game doesn't shill out NEARLY enough silver and gold for you to properly upgrade your army until the very last dungeons, if you want more than 3 people to have properly scaled items you have to grind money for several hours

>>386762338

same reason why Desaix didn't use it the second time you fight him.

>>386762187
No, they really dropped the ball with that. Sonya should have had special dialogue for putting them down.

>>386762693
Convenient body double?

>>386762794
>>386761025
>>386760759

Can someone explain how the fuck her ending happened? I thought the witches were directly tied to sacrificing yourself to Duma and yet it is implied she found a way to turn anyway?

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>>386762693
>Nettling down Desaix, two more turns and that dracoshield is mine
>Slayde suicides on Gray and bails, ending the level

Fucking dick

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>>386760759
>>386762187
>>386762794
>Sonya is one of the most compelling characters in Gaiden/Echoes
>has a noble quest to save the souls of those sacrificed to Duma
>cursed to a bad ending in Echoes for no fucking reason and can't be saved even with support with Genny

>>386763019
Her ending is from an outside perspective. Rumors basically. Her pursuit for a cure leads her to Nuibaba's mansion where she spends so much time researching that people think a new witch took up residence there.

They remade arguably the worst game in the franchise and then didn't add any of the quality of life or pandering features from the last two installments so it was doomed to fail.

>>386763117
>Sonya has a fully fleshed out backstory
>Sonya has more development in one single support than some characters do in three
>Sonya has her own clearly defined goals
It's obvious who the devs wanted us to pick

>>386763117
>Compelling
No, not really.
But that's the game's fault, most people's characters aren't fleshed out because they almost always have one support.

>>386763631

>Dread Knight in a game where not only everyone can be a good Dread Knight but he isn't unique

all they had to do was give him SOEMTHING the other DKs couldn't have and maybe a love interest and he could have been a choice. I'm pretty sure most people chose Sonya because they needed another Mage besides Mae and Celica because Boey is fucking terrible.

>>386763631
>everyone recommends Deen
>choose Sonya anyway because she's so much more likable as a character and I want Genny to have a friend

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>If you pick Deen over Sonya, his ending is just him disappearing and never to be seen again
>If you pick Sonya over Deen she goes looking for a cure to being a Witch and ends up becoming the new Witch in charge of Nuibaba's Abode
WHY DID THEY DO THIS

>>386763912
His strength was the crit boosting support triangle he formed with your Celica's other dread fighters.

>>386764174
You're acting like FE hasn't had bummer ending before.

>FE7 - Canas dies with his wife orphaning his son.
>FE7 - Ninian either goes back with her brother never seeing the man she loves again or Nils goes back by himself never to see his sister again

>>386763912
>I'm pretty sure most people chose Sonya because they needed another Mage besides Mae and Celica
Why would anyone want another unit that drains their already low amount of HP and has no enemy phase? Going off of class Dean is the obvious choice.

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So did Alm and Celica end up having kids or not?
There was nothing mentioned in both their endings that say they have kids.

>>386764174
>>386763117
I knew FEfags were stupid, but to be unable to pick up on the most basic of subtleties is quite impressive.

>>386764491
Walmart is a descendant of Alm so they had to.

>>386764491
Probably? Just because it wasn't explicitly mentioned doesn't mean it couldn't have happened.

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>>386764491
They definitely had kids.

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>>386764592
>Walmart is a descendant of Alm so they had to.
Got any facts to back that up?

>>386764490

>what is swords when priestess
>what is wearing a ring

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>Rudolf tells his army to surrender if he dies
>His dipshit army all rushes at me and die before he comes down

>>386764651

>same class (Beserker)
>same castle
>same personality as daddy alm

>>386764731
I just warped right next to that fucker. Faye/Silque warp combo is fucking broken as shit

>>386764731

>not using best girl to teleport Alm to his dad and one shotting him with Double Lion on turn one

>>386754506
I prefer to play my Echoes in Japanese, but even I have to admit that the localization went above and beyond with Berkut and Fernand. That was phenomenal voice work and I would love to see the both of their voice actors do voices in more games. I'd be less of a subfag if there were more English voice acting on that level instead of the common garbage we usually get.

>>386764702
>sowrds when priestess
>pass up on the best sword using class line in the game to use swords with mages
ARE YOU SERIOUS RIGHT NOW

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>Alm destroyed THIS every night when the war was over
WEW
E
W

>>386764976
>he doesn't know about the ladyblade

>>386764447
There's also Nino and Jaffar either dying or having to abandon their children after 7.

Ninian can be a mother to Roy though I think if you A rank her with Eliwood she stays.

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You can't fuck Faye or Genny.

>>386765064
Yeah, that exactly what I was talking about with the second example.

And on top of that, Ninian and Nils both know that if she stays with Eliwood she's gonna die early.

>>386764976

you default to using a sword on priestess even if you have none on you if an enemy unit confronts you in front of you. Also Ladyblade is a thing that exists for you non Celica priestesses.

>>386755831

For Nuibaba's map. I heard people complained a lot about her ability where she drains your life to 1 HP. I had Silque invoke some lovely Dreadnaught Bait, and got her, Faye, and Alm right into position to warp him in, Double Lion her sorry ass, and then rescue him right out.

I wish they made that strategy a special skill a la Triangle Attack. It was so satisfy to sneak right in and out and leave a bloody corpse behind.

>>386765025
Please refer to
>>386764976

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>Nino and Jaffar both just disappear after the war
So was ISIS just trying to make everyone in 7 either dead or just disappear so they wouldn't have fans asking where everybody is in 6?
Seems really fucking lazy

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why did Alm have to be so cold towards Faye?
Could he not at least take her as a concubine or something? is Celica such a bitch that she would not even allow that?

>>386760979
Python is lazy so his voiced is supposed to sound like that.

>>386763631
Sonya was always the better choice, especially in the original where Deen was below average, as were Mae and Boey, and Sonya was the best mage in the game. Now it's a little closer but she's still superior to Deen considering how many fucking Mercs you get in her route. But it's not as one-sided as it was in Gaiden.

Deen's main advantage is he comes with the Brave Sword but I still picked Sonya. Mages were good, Sonya is strong, and Sonya's a character with ties to the story.

>>386765401

>spoopy cat eyes
>saying alm over and over again

>>386765351
Such is the nature of a prequel.
>>386765401
Really? You honestly thought that was an option?

>>386765401
>sticking your dick in crazy
And why should Celica allow that? Given her father, she's probably not big on that. And Alm doesn't even like her in the first place. He was disturbed by her.

>>386765351
The problem is Nino's kids and Canas' kid are explicitly orphaned in 6 so it wouldn't make much sense for Nino, Jaffar, and Canas to be around in any capacity.

The saddest thing is Nino and Canas are family. That is one cursed family.

>>386765510
>Deen's main advantage is he comes with the Brave Sword

wow_its_fucking_nothing.jpg

>>386765510

>Deen's main weapon is more valuable than Deen himself in both games

JUST ME UP FAMPAI

>>386765510
And she's Genny's friend

>>386765510
By the time i got to Deen, i already had three killing edges.

>>386765510
Sonya was shit in Gaiden though. She can't promote until level 20 and joining with Excalibur doesn't do shit for her because she's on Celica's route and not Alm's, the only good thing about her is the steel shield I can give to someone else if I want.

>>386765875
Speaking of which, was Genny's mom a whore that abandoned her at the temple? Because that is what i got from her dialogue.

>>386747996
What went wrong is I stopped playing at part 3. Gonna have to pick it up again.

>>386765903
She has a better spell list than Mae or Boey, is faster than both of them, and both of their growths are fucking awful in Gaiden. Celica is the only better mage on Celica's route. She's absolutely a better choice than Deen in Gaiden.

>>386765598
I hate how alm did realized faye was crazy but got the cause wrong.

>>386766323
Why would I care about a mage that's better than the shitty ones when I could have another RNG-proof murder machine AKA Deen?

>>386765971
Probably.

>>386766323
>has a better spell list than Mae or Boey, is faster than both of them, and both of their growths are fucking awful in Gaiden
Congrats, she's better than units that fall off after Act 2. Deen is still the better choice due to feasible promotion level and better bases.

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How cannon is pic related after Mcorrin in Revelations?

>>386766827
As far as what I remember Kamui married Azura, or at least that's what's implied.
Remember, all non-revelations endings were torn apart by a dimension hopping Anankos because he was butthurt about getting fucked in Revelations. Thanks alternative worlds DLC sets.

>>386765167
Can I at least cuddle Genny and have her read me stories at the base of a giant tree?

>>386767383
You may feed her cheese.

>>386767457
Is cheese safe for sheep to consume?

>>386752758
I'm about to start sacred stones, GBA fes are pretty good as is, why remake them? honestly I'd say remake the first six, the ones that never saw western release atleast.

>>386767571
Well it seems to be, I fed her a truckload.

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>>386762085
I'm playing 7 right now, first FE game for me, I have Marcus at level 9 or ten and a Kent that I maxed to 20 and then promoted, Kent is a good 4 or 5 levels below Marcus and he has far better stats.

although, I'm not sure they're the same class though, I'm sure Kent is a paladin now, not sure about marcus.

>>386768740
Marcus is also a Paladin, but the thing is that there's no reason not to use both.

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>>386747996

Best girl lost

>>386768886
yeah I still use both, Marcus is a champ.
but I'm saying the other anon is right, leveled units are better than pre promoted ones.

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>>386768740
Oh anon, you will soon learn that personal experience matters little when discussing unit viability.
This is Alec, he is a pretty poor unit.
I got this full level up on him, is he now excellent?

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>>386769173
Since it is your first FE game I will let you off with that comment.
Basically Marcus starts good and remains good.
Kent starts poor and only becomes good if you focus on him getting good and feeding him kills.

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>>386769349
>his wife is better than him in every way

>levels are better than bases
>bases are better than levels
conventional wisdom swaps on this shit every few years, ultimately it won't matter because what matters to each player is who they want to use and who ends up good for them.

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>>386769202
are you saying the increase in stats isn't fixed for each level for each unit?
if that's the case, I guess you're right..

>>386769349
I understand that, but the game is long as hell and you get Kent pretty early, so it's easy to level him up, and honestly I kinda ignored him at some point in the middle and only got him to 20 around chapter 22ish, I'm near the end of the game, I assume.
but yeah I'm using both, I use the prepromoted ones and try to sneak in kills for the base units as often as possible, also, once I reached chapter 25 I decided to upgrade units level 15+, since I probably won't get a chance to get them to 20 before the end of the game and I noticed the first upgrade level nets more skill increase than your average level, figured I'd use the upgrade crests, etc instead of holding off to them and never use them again.


also uploaded Lucius, and maxed his support with raven.

>>386767764
My hopes with the Echoes series is that they'll do some old and some "not-so-old". I've been playing them since the NA releases and i really enjoyed Sacred Stones' story, characters and gameplay over the previous GBA releases. I'd love to see Thracia and some other old titles, but i'd also like to see 8 in current gen. Y'know?

>>386770049
>are you saying the increase in stats isn't fixed for each level for each unit?
No, each units has growths for every stat, and RNG has to roll under that amount for them to get a point in that stat upon level up. In that way, playthroughs can turn out differently because units you used or didn't use before might end up better or worse.

>>386770049
>also, once I reached chapter 25 I decided to upgrade units level 15+, since I probably won't get a chance to get them to 20 before the end of the game and I noticed the first upgrade level nets more skill increase than your average level

Good on you for getting that now, because that's something most people don't think about when playing the games for the first time (or the second, or the third, etc.) Some people swear that you can't promote a unit before level 20 ever because then you are gimping their stat gains. Technically, they are correct, but in practice they aren't. That's only true if they reach level 20 promoted at the final chapter, which almost never happens.

>>386749997
>>386752407
That audience literally saved Fire Emblem

So can someone tell me is Conquest Lunatic that all your level ups are not RNG and are set in stone from the start?

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>>386770762
Don't say that as if it were the only thing that saved it. Now that it actually has a normie following, it sure won't completely die off without it either.

>>386771095
That is Fates Lunatic in general. The RNG can't be changed, but the level ups technically can be with reclassing.

>>386748795
wut? I was actually astonished by how nice the dub is the first time I booted it up. Granted its not 100% but there's some great performances in there

>>386770762
Maybe it should have stayed dead then

>>386771320
>That is Fates Lunatic in general. The RNG can't be changed, but the level ups technically can be with reclassing.
So... Is that a yes to all the level ups being fixed or not?

>>386770762
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6F17CVWZX0g&t=0s

i'll post this shit every time i see this arguement.

>>386771095
from what I remembered it's fixed

don't quote me on that though, google it a bit.

>>386771886
>expecting me to watch some nerd's youtube video
>asuna pic in the lower corner
Give me a summery or fuck off.

>>386747996
still this day i continue to hear that fates is a bad game but for me i have more than 600 hours on it and continue to enjoy it every single run, i feel bad for people that just don't enjoy games anymore

>>386771624
Fates Lunatic level up RNG is fixed. The only way growths will change (slightly, like most likely only by a point or two) is with reclassing because that changes the growth rates.

Lunatic's LURNG is set once that character exists. Any rolls (the 0-99 for each stat for each level up) is set right then and there. Reclassing changes growths, but the rolls stay the same. So if someone reclassed into a class with the same Strength growth, the levels that Strength goes up are the same. If say the Skill growth goes down from 50% to 40%, a level up that rolled 44 for Skill will no longer have Skill stat up, when if they didn't reclass it would go up there.

TL:DR Yes. Level up RNG is fixed. It can be very slightly manipulated, but on the whole it is fixed.

>>386769489
Funnily enough he actually admits that in some of his dialogue

>>386771886
that video is really dumb and no matter what they said, awakening did save fire emblem even if it wasn't what you wanted but it was what the franchise needed, sorry for the fags that hate it

>>386772121
Is Judah suppose to be a Jew?

>>386772064
Conquest is a legit great game, I put a good 200 hrs in it

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>>386771970
>fire emblem game that actually got marketing and advertisement
>fire emblem game with casual mode that made it over seas
>fire emblem game with the perfect self insert
>fire emblem game that came out around the same time as the SAO craze with an fantasy mid evil artstyle, surely drawing a crowd of anime weebs to it that for some reason haven't picked up fire emblem before dispite it always being weeb bait.
>all these factors end up being an easy game that reviewers will love and praise because they can beat it quickly in a week.
i don't entirely agree on the SAO point, but i'd hardly say muh waifu marrage was the only factor in play with awakening being a success

>>386772215
he's not arguing that it didn't, he's arguing that saying that line doesn't defend it from criticism, sides i might as well just post a video instead of defend my own points, same amount of effort that these shitposts put in anyways.

can you people please stop pretending you care about the old games

What did Awakening DO right /v/?

Fucking horrible maps and no weapon triangle. They put it in every single Fire Emblem since this game for a goddamn reason and without it makes every map a boring slog.

>>386772291
fates did something great and that was that you can either play the game in a comfy way or in a challenging way

>>386772483
>every game since 2

what is fire emblem 3 for 500, alex?

>>386772351
>he's not arguing that it didn't, he's arguing that saying that line doesn't defend it from criticism,
Were not saying it can't be criticized, but we are saying that the waifu and fanservice 100% saved the series and anybody that wants to argue that needs to never speak again.

>>386772379
saved the franchise

>>386772369
I will never stop not caring about Ike's games

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As someone who played all 3 routes of Fates but never played Awakening, would I like it or not?

>>386772573
yeah man i remember all those other waifu games that sold big because of the wai- no i don't.

i'd say the advertising and marketing did that alot more for people, you can make a game fun and easy, and have waifus, like with fire emblem's 8 and 9, but they won't sell as much if they lack critical advertisement.

>>386772607
pretty much this, the ablaze idea for music tracks, and bringing in the idea of pair up, oh yeah and no more limited supports, that was always dumb.

>>386772769
How much did you enjoy Birthright?

So did Grima grow naturally or was he just small because he was confined to a labyrinth without any living people to draw from?
Also is it canon now that Alm and Celica are responsible for unleashing Grima upon the world?

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>>386772379
The first third of the story was interesting, Future Past was great

>>386772917
I knew gameplay wise it was better than Revelations but nowhere near Conquest but I still thoroughly enjoyed the story and liked the characters better than the Conquest ones.
So would I like it?
I ended up spending 60ish hours in Birthright.

>>386772351
I accept and agree FE:A did well because of actual advertisement and having enough units to satisfy demand (PoR and RD). I actually argue that Smash finally paid dividends to Fire Emblem after years because Ike's game flew under the radar so hard.
I disagree on the self-insert, because if it's many people's first FE game then they know nothing about self-inserts, nor would they know about it before they bought it.

>fire emblem game that came out around the same time as the SAO craze with an fantasy mid evil artstyle, surely drawing a crowd of anime weebs to it that for some reason haven't picked up fire emblem before dispite it always being weeb bait.
But that's fucking dumb.

>>386772626
you care but how often do you still play them? there are more people that continue to play awakening more than old fans play any other old game

>>386773252
thats pretty reasonable, i can agree with that.

i have no idea what he was doing with the SAO point tho, it seemed random as fuck.

>>386773272
>there are more people that continue to play awakening more than old fans play any other old game
Awakening is terribly boring though, I highly doubt that.

>>386772769
not as much, for me though
it is a good game but it doesn't offer as much as reclassing, missions, challenge than fates but that's because fates have 3 routes,also lunatic in awakening isn't that enjoyable and lunatic+ is dumb

>>386773384
i can tell you the only fire emblems i been replaying recently are sacred stones and echoes.

not sure why really, guess i'm in the mood for monsters.

>>386773227
Awakening is most similar to Birthright gameplay-wise. Nothing really hard unless you go into bullshit Lunatic+ where sometimes the game just decides you can't win and enemy skills are changed ever reload so you can't even properly prepare all the time.
The story and characters are fine.

>>386773272
Probably once every 3 years

I screwed up the homebrewing of my wii and I think currently It can only run GC games, and I gotta fix it to play Radiant dawn. It's easy to fix but i'm currently lazy.

>>386773384
there are more new fire emblem fans than old ones so it is accurate

>>386773459
>lunatic in awakening isn't that enjoyable and lunatic+ is dumb
>>386773538
>Nothing really hard unless you go into bullshit Lunatic+ where sometimes the game just decides you can't win and enemy skills are changed ever reload so you can't even properly prepare all the time
Whats wrong with Lunatic

>>386773538
Isn't it mathematically impossible to beat some of the earlier levels if they spawn with Hawkeye+ and Luna+ or something?

>>386773557
i just wish for the switch to bring those game and it will be great, Ike's story was really good for me especially Radiant dawn

>>386773534
I wish they would release high res art of the monsters.
Lich's look like total bros in their art (despite looking like average thug monster skeletons in the models).
Deathgoyle and Risen look considerably more intimidating as models than the art though.

>>386773678
your units on the first mission can't do shit, you have to use your advance unit frederick most of the time, in other games you can be punished for making mistakes but in this you can't do shit, so after the first missions you have to start farming exp, even in fates your low units could fight with a good strategy but in awakening lunatic a lot of units are useless

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>>386773384
It's an enjoyable enough time to replay every other year or so since there's some things you can shift up. I always get bored right before and during the Valm chapters though since if you want Lucina to have galeforce, you need to grind her mother up to a level 15 dark flier since she auto-joins IIRC chapter 13. Which may involve a class change so add another 20 levels on to that.

And by that point you have a level ~55ish dark flier with gale force who can steam roll everything. Bonus if it's not MU who can also kill everything.

>>386773027
Grima would have escaped, alm and celica sealed him for 1000 years, then he revived and thr first exal deale dwith it, another, 1000 years pass and Awakening happens.

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>terrible maps
>repetitive maps
>piss-easy difficulty (2nd easiest FE after PoR)
>retardedly one-dimensional plot
>one-dimensional characters
>terrible unit variety (both your own and the enemy's)
>worst dungeon-crawling of any game made in Japan
>a step backwards from CQ gameplay-wise in every way

I love how you can tell who casualfucks are by whether they liked Echoes. Echoes gameplay - i.e. the thing you should play FE for - is bottom of the barrel. Its only saving grace is its presentation. You're an autistic child to fall for the bright and shiny wrapper hiding a pile of shit underneath.

>>386774109
What?
Alm and Celica removed the only thing preventing him from escaping the laboratory, the Sage's Shield. They didn't seal him at all, they killed him temporarily for a short time and he revived just after.

>>386774069
Jesus just reading this paragraph brings me memories of pure boredom

I bought awakening 3 years ago with my 3DS, alongside Devil Suvivor OC, I still have yet to beat Awakening.

>>386747996
too expensive

>>386774184
Huh, you're late today. 300+ posts.

>>386774442
Just beat it you pussy.

>>386774519
Why do 3DS take so long to drop in price anyway?
I've been waiting for Fates to drop too and it's still near full price on even used copies where I live.

>>386773678
I was only talking about Lunatic+, a mode only unlockable if you complete Lunatic. Lunatic+ IIRC has the same enemies and stats as Lunatic, but they add in a bunch of BS skills that enemies randomly have every reload.
How do you like an enemy that always halves your Defense when they attack?
What about an enemy that will always have perfect accuracy?
What about enemies that always attack first in combat?
What about enemies that always halve sword/lance/axe/beaststone damage?
What about enemies that always halve bow/magic/dragonstone damage?
What about enemies that always have Counter, a skill that gives your units the full damage that you did to the enemy unless it killed the enemy?
What do you think about enemies that can have multiple of these skills?

>>386774703
Not him but
A-are there ones with all those skills at once?

>>386773713
Yeah. Chapter 1 is the notable one.

>>386774784
You and enemies can only have 5 skills equipped at once, so no

>>386774784
There aren't any enemies that have all of those skills, but I believe each enemy can spawn with up to two of those skills each reload. IIRC the halve damage skills and Counter don't appear until Chapter 3, but that's only 3 chapters you don't have to deal with them.

>>386774975
>>386774981
whew
What's the worst combo? I'd imagine Counter+whatever skill has resist to more common weapons.

>>386774653
When you're the only company selling games on your console/handheld, you can keep the price high since there is little to no competition. Games are cheaper on ps4/xbone and much cheaper on pc as there are more developers/publishers competing and releasing games for those platforms.

>>386775109
The Hawkeye+ and Luna+ combo is a classic. Can't dodge the enemy's attack and take increased damage, especially notable for Frederick who takes an extra 7 damage from it during the early game when he has 28 HP. Not counting how much damage the enemy does outside of the Luna+.

>>386773713
>Isn't it mathematically impossible to beat some of the earlier levels if they spawn with Hawkeye+ and Luna+ or something?
As someone who's only right now played the GBA Games what the fuck is Luna and Hawkeye

>>386775293
I see, thanks. I guess I'll just try eshop sales then.

Nothing. It washed the taste of shit out of my mouth that the entirety of Fates left me with.

>>386775398
>Hawkeye
Never miss
>Luna
Typically a % chance to ignore some amount of an enemy's defense, Luna+ activates 100% of the time and is enemy exclusive

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>>386770049
>also uploaded Lucius

Good job. Lucius is my favorite unit from that game. He consistently maxes Mag+Skl+Spd for me. I'm trying to get him in Heroes.

>>386747996
Wanted to see more of Celicas supple body.

>>386775398
look at >>386775375
more or less there's a situration in chapter 2 where if the Fighter with the Hammar has hawkeye+ and Luna+, you literally can not beat the stage.

most of the game isn't like that on lunatic, but it does kinda show how rushed/poorly thought out the difficulty mode was.

>>386775375
Good lord.
Reminds me of the guy who hacked RD to trigger wrath and astra to trigger and bypass Nihil.

>>386770735
Still if a character can pull their weight unpromoted might as well save it until they start dropping off in usefulness.

>>386775398
They added skills to units to make the games more complex. In this particular scenario though:

Hawkeye+ = 100% guaranteed hit
Luna+ = guaranteed halved defense on target

combined with the enemies boosted stats, that's a dead Fred

>>386774543
med school is a bitch, echoesfags are lucky I'm too busy to tell them what shit taste they have

>>386775887
Alright, take care of yourself bud.

>>386772379
A lot of quality of life shit.
Playing Radiant dawn after a 3DS game is anger inducing.

I really hipe hidari sticks for some more FEs, or at least release a full 300 pages artbook of echoes.

>>386774184
Comparing equivalent difficulties, Awakening, both versions of Gaiden, FE4, FE1 and Birthright are all easier than PoR

>>386776648
it's silly to compare Hard mode to Hard mode when Lunatic mode is available for other games

>>386757063
t. gay

>>386776648
>PoR
>Not easy
It's Ike 2 win, what are you talking about?

>>386776886
He's probably thinking RD

>>386748919
kys
Echoes is a shit game with an interesting story. It would have been better if it was just a VN or a manga/anime. The gameplay is one of the worst I've ever played in a Fire Emblem game.

>endless reinforcements on the world map and during battles
>units have shit tier damage
>and shit tier scaling
>maps are either completely empty with some spots of grass or giant swamps
>randomly teleporting nukes that can instantly take out almost any one of your units if the RNG wants it
>awful hit rates through the board
>illogical balance choices such as including Banish for extra damage against Terrors but also including Great Terror, which only exists to make your Banish skill useless
>archers are broken (player and enemy side)
>weapon effectiveness is nearly irrelevant
>no weapon triangle
>(not gameplay relevant but this is another FE game with a shit tier English Dub and a shit tier localization that is completely wrong sometimes and has an insanely low standard)

The good parts are
>class and weapon skills are interesting and add some depth
>Japanese Dub is godlike and every spoken line is dubbed
>beautiful animations
>subquests are a nice try I guess (even though they're still shit tier fetch quests)

So is Conquest objectively the hardest FE or not?
Is it RD?

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>>386750074
>>386752676
>>386751151

I think it's safe to say remaking this game was more of an experiment than anything. Probably testing the waters to do other things in the future.

>>386776113
like what?

>>386777119
Thracia.

>>386777119
Pretty sure it's Tharcia > Conquest > RD
RD is primarily hard because of fucked unit balance.