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Thought?
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>a bunch of fat neckbeards in the middle of Olympic village
>"we're the E-ATHLETES"
>all the female gymnasts bend over backwards (literally) trying to suck their cocks

COMING SUMMER 2024
"THE E-LYMPICS"
GOOD GAME
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I thought it wasn't happening in Paris anymore.
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>2024
nobody will give a shit about esports by then
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>>386736883
>Get greasy neckbeards or skinny fat asians instead of cute athletic girls with perky asses

Please no.
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>>386736883
Handball is an olympic sport
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Who cares about the Paris Olympics? Japan is the only one worth giving a shit about.
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>>386736883
Chess should've been an olympic sport for the longest time now.
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>>386736883
>Paris Olympics
>adding patriarchal esports
>not peaceful Muslim rampaging
Fucking disgusting bigots.
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The olympics are shit. nothing more than a 2 week track meet that devastates the local community
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>>386737287
This anon is correct, OP is posting false bait.

>>386737417
In a phenomenal misunderstanding of what the Olympics are all about...
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>>386737382
>Japan
i dont
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>>386737459
Whatever you say, baguette. Even normies are more interested in a walking Gundam than some fucking mini Eiffel tower.
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Esports isn't a sport. I have no issue at all with competitive play, don't even take issue with pro gamers. However, a sport is physical otherwise who fucking knows where to draw the line. Should crossword solving, spelling bees, maths comps follow?
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>>386736883
Of course the French are doing stupid shit.
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>>386737586
chess is a sport and requires less physical abilities than video games tho
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>>386737586
Literally nowhere in the definition of sport does it say HOW much physical exertion. Raw concentration is classed as physical exertion.
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>>386737507
>In a phenomenal misunderstanding of what the Olympics are all about...
What is sarcasm?
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>>386737726
>chess is a sport
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>>386737507
>In a phenomenal misunderstanding of what the Olympics are all about...
To be fair the Olympics had shit like poetry and sculpture and things like that when it was first recreated.
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>>386737791
Yes it is, it's been classified as a sport before you were even born.
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>>386737726
No one considers chess a sport. What defines a sport has gotten worse now because now you have retards who consider motor racing to be a sport. As someone who actually played a sport in high school, it's fucking insulting, sports take time and dedication and the physical you go through can feel like torture sometimes. A fat fuck who spent a lot of time playing with Tracer is not an athlete
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>>386736883
Might as well. There's probably a lot of young people (like myself) that don't enjoy watching traditional sports.
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>>386737952
Everybody whose job it is to literally define sports considers Chess a sport. It's been a sport for hundreds of fucking years, you pretentious Chad piece of shit. What, Chess doesn't take time and dedication? Eat my balls.
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>>386737791
>>386737952
it's considered one by the international olympic committee
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>>386737791
It is
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Why not have an esport Olympics? Call it the brain Olympics or something and include stuff like esports, chess etc...
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>>386737952
>motorsport not a sport

Pretty sure those drivers have more endurance than your benchwarmer ass.
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>>386736883
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>386738626
Niggers playing anime fighting games have no brain though
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>>386737952
t. someone who has no idea about anything motorsport related
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>>386737952
being a racecar driver is the most demanding sport, whether it be rally or even fucking nascar. kys retard
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>>386738719
If fighting games don't involve brains then what does it involve?
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Well, let's be realistic. It's probably going to be CoD and LoL.

The IOC always gets everything wrong.
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How the fuck are non first world nations supposed to compete? It seems weird to have something that inaccessible to so many nations.
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>>386738896
Muscle memory to pull out cheap combos
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>>386738896
muscle memory
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Is an horse a athlete?
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Is there a more overrated city than Paris?
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>>386738896
a lack of one, it's literally a prerequisite to enjoy fighting games
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>>386738919
are you kidding? places like brazil send esport competitors all the time to major events.
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>>386736883
Legitimately laughed out loud when i read the title
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>>386739008
New York?
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>violent games are out by default and MOBAs are incomprehensible for outsiders

Enjoy watching Rocket League
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What games would actually be deserving of being in the Olympics?
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>>386739008
No, it's Paris thing to be so overrated to disappoint all tourists
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>>386739008
amsterdam
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>>386738896
Fighting games nowadays are mainly muscle memory because they are all about landing one fucking attack to transition into cookiecutter half life combos.
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>>386739103
The usual, csgo, dota 2, starcraft, lol, tekken/street fighter
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>>386739103
league
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>>386739103
The only fighting game that will ever matter.
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>>386739103
if I had to guess
>rocket league
>fifa
>dota
>cs
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>>386737163

i imagine females wouldn't mind being fingered by gooks with 500 apm
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>>386739008
No one would bother with muslim central now these days
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>>386739109
copy paste shop city
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>>386737586
>Should crossword solving, spelling bees, maths comps follow?
why not?
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>>386739187
>It's another nintendofag claims Smash is a fighting game episode
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>>386737586
spelling bee is considered a sport, but since the kids are underage for olympic games, it will never happen.
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Fucking retarded.

>>386738919
Happens with swimming already.
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>>386739008
Probably London, but that would imply anyone had expectations for that shithole to begin with.
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>>386736883
It makes sense given how e-sports are the future of sports.
Anybody can run or throw a ball; very few can become proficient at competitive videogames.
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>>386739352

Do you even know what the Olympics are? There hasn't been a gold medal female gymnast who is of age in years.
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I disagree as much as I love vidya, because I fear it might give the wrong message, consider how in America only 1% of the student athletes will go pro, and is bad enough that they make next to no money and their health cover only work as long as they are seen profitable, is basically slavery, but at least they working toward a potentially healthier lifestyle, in the Olympics people might think that spending hundreds of hours even at the expense of their education (as it already happens with Sport) in videogames is a surepath to a career, even if is moot unless you have sponsors, although that seems to be true in Sports as well.


Bottom line, I feel my motivations crumble under the uncertainties, some data would be needed to establish whether some cultural effects are likely to occur.
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>>386739008
London
Newyork
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>>386736883
i'd be more willing to watch the Olympics if it included a fighting game tourney
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>>386736883
About as likely as you getting laid, OP
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My first thought is I don't watch the Olympics or esports so I don't care. My second thought is if this happens I'll spend way too much time having to get out of conversations/jokes at my expense that start like this:

>Hey anon you play vidya you should go on the Olympics!

so I think it's a terrible idea.
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>>386737163
>esports right now is mostly just skinny virgin types.
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Paris is hosting the Olympics? Thats a guaranteed terror attack.
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>>386739714
16, with 15 being the youngest of turning 16 soon. they're not about to let in 10 year old students anytime soon.
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>>386736883
Either limit olympics to athletics with no games, like football or fucking kurling. Or let e-sports in too.
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>>386740296
They'll redefine the attacks as an Olympic sport and start praising how inclusive they are to recognise all the art and technique that goes into mass murder. Also anyone using racist terms like mass murder will be hounded out of civil society because it's actually called traditional population management now.
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>>386736883
>Literally risked getting wrestling removed just to block baseball from staying in the Olympics
>Considering "esports"

Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure.
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>>386739210

Yea that's what females find ideal. Skinny, short, computer gaming gooks.
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which games tho? i could see something like csgo or quake, as they have a lot of variety and teams tend to be based around nations, but its way too violent

other games are just going to be dominated by asians, which i guess would be fine as some sports are dominated by certain nations...

i can see riot making a push for lol there, as they always parrot the shit about lol being an international sport, but idk.
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>Olympic weightlifting at threat of being banned due to all the steroid findings
>Esports replaces weightlifting

/v/ would have a field day over on /fit/ at least.
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>>386740696
Hearthstone.
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How about intercourse olympics, who lasts longest, most frequent orgams etc. Not ironic.
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>>386740787
The olympics are riddled with ped. Not just weightlifting
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>>386736883
Painting and singing used to be Olympic events. Why not?
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>using olympics to promote a product
>cutting out the middle man and making it a sport
How is this legal? Why don't they also make D&D or Shadowrun an olympic sport?
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>>386737163
Shooting has been in the Olympics since the 19th century, how is this any different?
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if your heart rate goes up while doing it and you compete with other people, it is a sport.
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>>386741308
Yes, but out of all the people who were re-tested and actually found out, a large percentage were from weightlifting.

Not that that is surprising, but there's talk that weightlifting will be used as an example to the other sports and be banned.
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>>386741715
So sex is considered a sport now? not that I do it
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BEHOLD THE GOLD CHAMPION
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>>386739008
San Francisco

There's literally nothing there
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>>386737858
It still should. The Olympics being only about physical sports is a meme created by the modern games.
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>>386736883
there's also talk about introducing women's cricket; e-sports isn't even close to the bottom of the barrel
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Imagining an e-sports athlete showing up to the Olympics Orgy is too amusing. Bad enough the sharp shooters already look totally out of place and probably aren't allowed to partake in the festivities. Power walkers shit themselves too much for anyone to even consider
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>>386741791
What the fuck?
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>>386736883
lol at the thought of someone like Punk showing up in NBC. I can see the twitter posts now.
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Why don't other American cities besides la want the olympics anymore?
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>>386741579

In that millennials are a thing and care for vidya and esports. Otherwise LoL and all the other garbage wouldn't be getting all the views they get.
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>>386737952
haha yeah bro cars arent a sport just press your foot to go
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>>386736883
cringe tier.

they only doing this because muh money, nobody gives a fuck about the games people play at tournaments, they just wanna see "pros" shit on eachother,

its like football, nobody gives a fucking shit about it except their favorite team and big companies make fat cash off of it
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>>386736883
they can't because it's not allowed to show brands at the olympics.
Even if they do, there's the problem of games being obsoletes in 3-4 years cycles while the olympics are prepared nearly a decade in advance, you can't expect "athletes" to keep playing SFV or overwatch in 2024. Even lol mght have died by then.
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I definitely think it should be included, I'd have a real reason to stop watching the games.
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esports is possibly the most pathetic thing to come out of modern society.

There are literally people who pay to watch fat/skinny korean nerds play league on a stage
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>>386742132
>it's not allowed to show brands at the olympics.

>meanwhile all those banners on the track when they run
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>>386736883
cringe

sitting in front of a pc wasting health shouldn't be glorified
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>>386741959
Cause the games ruin cities, ain't no one want that shit anymore, leave that up to the Euros and 3rd world dwellers.
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fuck video games now they ruin my olympic game experience FUCK THIS WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
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>>386742183
E-Sports wouldn't bother me so much but it's such stupid games that everyone cares about
>lol, dota, csgo
Starcraft 2 was kind of fun to watch for a while, I suppose
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its more lame that skateboarding is being added, at least games are actually supposed to be competitive.
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>>386741959
Hosting the olympics economically ruins a city.
Salt Lake City got hit so hard by it, it would've gone the way of Detroit if Mitt Romney didn't literally save it.
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>>386738626
I like it. What would be the games for it?
>1-5 fightan games
>1-3 shootan games
>1-2 Moba
>Speedrunning?
>sport games
>some pve-score attack games?
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>>386742401
This
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>Mew2king sperging out on the Olympic village
I can only dream
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Give me Melee and Quack -or at least AoEII- and i'll be happy
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>>386742603
Speedrun races might be good. Obviously only for vidya that doesn't have a real-timeworld equivalent though.

Although now I'm picturing Track and Field as an Olympic vidya and something inside me feels warm and happy.
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>>386736883
It has no consistency or staying power.

What happens if League dies before 2024? What happens if the next CoD is so bad nobody plays it? What happens if the next fighting game has no playerbase and everyone sticks to the old one? What happens if Riot fuck up their balancing super hard just before the Olympic games?

It's not like fucking Archery or Fencing where the rules remain the same and the sport is effectively unchanged for centuries.
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>>386743046
QWOP and Winnie the pooh home run derpy. Let's go.
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>>386736883
As long as big publishers keep pouring money into e-sports I'm sure they'll end up in the olympics eventually. Once the honeypot starts running dry no one will give a shit.
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>>386742401
>remove basedball
>Let fagboarding in
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>>386737952
>b-b-but muh brain isn't a muscle
well maybe not yours
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>>386742282
This. I can get behind some competitive Broodwar and even some SC2 sometimes. LoL and fucking Hearthstone though, really?
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>>386736883
inb4 shooting during overwatch competition
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Why not. Muslim rape gangs will be part of it. So why not vidya

>Im not even kidding. Rape gangs will exist and France will blame gamers somehow. Bringing back gamer gate. And the next French revolution which the Muslim sjw side will win and turn France into the first opnely trans sexual cuck nation. Where women will have to take Muslim and black dick or else

E Sports will destroy France. Which is good. Let Muslims take it. French people are idiots who deserve it
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>>386743408
>Muslim sjws will turn France into a trans cuck nation because of videogames in the olympics
This is the most retarded thing I've seen on /v/ this week
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>>386743570
I bet that a bot posted it.
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>>386739008
Does any other city have a mental illness caused by how underwhelming it is?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_syndrome
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>>386737952
Sorry your highschool glory days don't mean shit anymore, buddy. Shoulda gone pro or actually did something more worthwhile instead.
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>hurrhurr brainpower!

Given the mental gymnastics I have to pull to understand this shit, I'll be good and ready by 2024
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Girlfriend complains about me play CSGO
>I'm training for the Olympics babe
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>>386739008
>saw paris before refugee crisis
>actually really enjoyed it
>only issue i really had was that people wouldn't pick up there dog shit
>literally a massive skidmark behind every corner
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>>386743408
Just because leftists bend over for Islam doesn't mean Muslims support giving sex changes to children.
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fake news
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>>386736883
RNG shouldn't be a factor in a competitive game.
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>>386744056
real life has weather
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>>386737952
>Actually played a sport in high school
Top kek
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Reminder that /v/ has the same mentality as normies on twitter when it comes to competitive video games, and in /v/'s case it largely stems from the fact that you're either wageslaves or NEETs and your parents didn't approve of your video game hobby, and now your hobby is making millionaires out of teenagers.
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>>386744056
shit, I guess we can only play fucking pinball
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>>386744056
RNG is a factor in every competitive game.
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>>386744097
>Missing the point
Also, weather doesn't give any advantage by a single athlete.
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>>386744243
Name one olympic sport where RNG is part of the game mechanics.
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>>386744408
Soccer. You never know when a bird decides to fly into the stadium and block the ball.
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>>386744408
Archery
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>>386736883
No. Olympic sports should be a physical sport.
Come back when Chess and art is part of the olympic games.
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>>386744539
>start a soccer game
>roll audience modifier: unusual crowd
>vuvuzelas starts blaring and distracting everyone
Thanks, devs!
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>esports becomes an olympic event
>developers begin making more esports games to get a piece of the pie
>if you thought shit was manufactured now, you haven't seen anything
fuck my entire life
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>>386744539
That's not RNG unless the cosmos is a giant simulation.
>>386744587
No RNG, your aim determined by your strength and skill.
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>>386744307
neither does RNG, every player can roll high or low
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When is /v/ going to stop pretending competitive gaming is a fad?

This shits been going on since the 90s with fighting game locals. It's NOT going away.
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>>386744868
It does. You can get lucky and get a string of high numbers and get an advantage while another player doesn't get a single high number and thereby at a disadvantage.
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>Sports
>with copyrights
>Intellectual Property
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>>386744968
No one's saying it's a fad. We're saying it's shallow and shitty and a direct detriment on the industry
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>>386744865
if we live in an entirely deterministic universe then computers aren't random either, nothing is
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>>386745031
Franchises are in "real sports"
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Quite frankly, I'm afraid over that a sport is an intellectual property/restricted by copyright.
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>>386744995
>archey or javelin
>your turn comes up
>wind suddenly changes direction
fucking casual mechanics real-life isn't balanced for competitive play
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I mean they have soccer. I mean I'm not trying to say esports are as pussy and boring as soccer. I mean it's not like lcs players do their hair at half time. But it seems odd that somehow esports would be attacked when they already stoop so low.
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>>386745104
But not the sports themselves.
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>>386741791
poor cosmo
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>>386744408
A referee is basically a RNG factor
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>>386745163
So? You can compensate for the wind.
You can't compensate for RNG.
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>>386745246
>refball>>386745246
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>>386745129
Olympics itself is literally restricted by copyright.
>>386745189
MOBA isn't OP or copyright. Only DOTA/LoL/smite or whatever.
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>>386745339
Olympics is an event, not a sport, dumbass.
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>>386744865
>>386744408
>That's not RNG.
Literally everything is (P)RNG. No exceptions.

Even this thread is essentially a giant random number generation. Including this post.
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>>386745104
I only recognize GNU-vidya as sport
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>>386745339
Okay then, tell me how I can play MOBA then?
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>>386745530
Same way you play professional sports through a copyright restricted league. I'm sure there is some shitty open source noncopyright moba out there.
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>>386745271
>wind changes direction as soon as the projectile leaves your hand
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>>386737952
>As someone who actually played a sport in high school,
Wow. So proud. Just like a good thirty percent of fucking everyone who went to high school. You sound like the kind of guy that's going to end up in a dead end life still trying to live off the thrill of a touchdown you made decades ago
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i want to go to the olympics
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what game would they even play in the olympics?

>>386745720
I want to go to the olympic village
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>>386745649
Again, you know beforehand that it's going to be windy.
Ultimately your argument is invalid by what >>386744865 said:
>not RNG unless the cosmos is a giant simulation.
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Marvel Vs. Capcom
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If chess is considered a sport I don't see why vidya shouldn't. I mean, there's more physical movement involved with video games than chess. Then again anything competitive with set rules can be considered a sport.
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>>386745901
Chess isn't considered an olympic sport since it doesn't involve physical achievement.
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>>386744097
and genetics
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What took them so long?
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>>386745863
>Again, you know beforehand that it's going to be windy.
even meteorologists can't predict the weather to 100% accuracy, if no human instruments can predict something then it's essentially random. Video game random number generators are more predictable than the weather actually
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>>386739008
Japanese have a term for it. "Paris Syndrome/Shock" or something. Japan has some exotic ideal about Paris being a utopia for white people so when they take a trip there and find it looking like Little Africa, they're stunned.
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>>386737586
Archery and shooting sure are physical.
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>>386746264
Of course, Wikipedia doesn't write about that little racial titbit. It's always "crime" and "poor people".
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>Paraolympics are fine
>E sports aren't

wut
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>>386738896
Rote memorization bordering on some kind of mental disability
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>>386746935
What are you talking about?
/v/ is ridiculing the Special Olympics all the fucking time.
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>>386743673
>20 cases a year for millions of tourist
It's litterally PTSD TRIGGERED FEEFEES bullshit. Stop mentioning it just because it's japs. These people shouldn't travel abroad if they get sicl at the sight of something different.
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Imagine being a real athlete training all your life and have to share your delegation with people who play vidya

>>386746935
Paralympics have merit.
Playing games not.
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>>386746935
Just wait a couple of decades for prosthetics to improve
I look forward to when they rebrand themselves as the cyborg olympics
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>>386747392
>Paralympics have merit.
>Playing games not.
That's entirely subjective.
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>>386745981
Isn't there the slight physical achievement of moving pieces quickly in timed chess? I'm sure a fit person would have an advantage over a fatty of equal intelligence.
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>>386743673
Jerusalem, apparently.
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>>386743673
Stockholm.
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>>386741791
nigga what
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>>386748829
Wasn't that getting attached to one's kidnappers?
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>>386741570
Olympic level D&D would be amazing.
i vote for this,
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>>386742132
>not allowed to show brands at the olympics.
Nigga what?
>swimsuits by speedo
>outer wear by nike
>timekeeping by omega
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Shooting is the same shit
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>>386742195
Are you a special kind of retard? Of course there are brands and publicity. Brands and publicity previously approved by the olympics. If you go with another brand you are directly competing against the official sponsors.
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>Players use Adderall
>eSports Drug Scandal 2024
Would be hilarious.
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>>386741791
>nothing wrong with cam girls

Aren't they both men?
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Video games should not get in before chess.
1. Chess takes more skill and training than any game, period.
2. Chess has zero corporate ties that would result in major profits for any single company
3. The rules of chess are not being updated and changed / controlled by a single company. Dota, Starcraft, Overwatch, and LoL all receive balance patches, new stuff (a few of them), game changes, new maps etc. They are neither static, nor are they controlled by the Olympic committee. Technically, one of the developers could update the game in a way that may favor the skillset of a certain team, giving them a huge advantage, or make changes which fuck over teams that would have won without said changes and so on.

Until chess is a sport, video games should not even be considered. Even then, only open source games with no microtransactions no longer updated such as Dota 1 and quake live should be considered, nothing current that could profit or be controlled by a developer / publisher.
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>>386737952
t. retard
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>>386736883
>Macruck cements his legacy as a joke president forever
Let it happen.
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>Paralympics is allowed
>version where latest genetic/chemical/cybernetic enhancements are allowed, is not.

Humanity must improve, none of this esports shit
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>>386736883
Video games are a hobby not a sport. Prove me wrong.
>Protip, you can't.
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>>386746779
I'm assuming you've never held a bow or a rifle in your life. It's not like your cute little fps games where your bullets go when your little mouse pointer is.
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>>386737952
Motor racing is physically demanding tho.

ATTENTION EVERYONE

>SportAccord (previously Global Association of International Sports Federations) is the umbrella organisation for all (Olympic and non-Olympic) international sports federations as well as organisers of multi-sports games and sport-related international associations.

SportAccord's definition of Sport is the following definition:[3]

>1.The sport proposed should include an element of competition.
>2.The sport should not rely on any element of “luck” specifically integrated into the sport.
>3.The sport should not be judged to pose an undue risk to the health and safety of its athletes or participants.
>4.The sport proposed should in no way be harmful to any living creature.
>5.The sport should not rely on equipment that is provided by a single supplier.

SportAccord uses five categories for its member federations' sports, many of which fall into more than one category:

>Primarily physical (e.g. rugby or athletics)
>Primarily mind (e.g. chess or go)
>Primarily motorised (e.g. Formula One or powerboating)
>Primarily coordination (e.g. billiards)
>Primarily animal-supported (e.g. equestrianism)

Videogames would fall into mind and coordination. But due the sport definition games like LoL with random damage numbers CANNOT be a sport, since luck is directly integrated into a major part of the game. Dealing damage.

/thread
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>>386746779
>wow bro breathing control doesn't actually exist and if it did it's something you can totally learn in a day without needing to physically train your body lol
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>>386750382
>>5.The sport should not rely on equipment that is provided by a single supplier.
doesn't that automatically disqualify esports?
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>>386750382
The reason motor racing, like video games, will never make it into the olympics is because there'd be massive corporate control over it.
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>>386750382
>5.The sport should not rely on equipment that is provided by a single supplier.
It's almost as if you just pointed out why video games that are currently sold / updated by a single developer, and ones that are not open source can NEVER be in the olympics!
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>>386750471
Equipment would be keyboards, pcs, etc. While the pcs should have the same specs, they could be bought prebuilt from different sellers. THey could also have a selection of mice/keyboard for players to choose from
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>>386750621
software is still equipment to play the game
otherwise you just have a blank PC
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>>386750586
>equipment
The game is not the equipment, its the sport
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>>386739303
why are you so insecure? because Smash allows for more movement options than all other fighting games? and for more combos, that you can make up yourself without relying on any hardcoded ones?
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>>386750691
The game is clearly the equipment because you need it to play the sport.
The point is that the olympics do not want something that can be changed / updated out of their control, nor do they want to be blatantly free advertising for a product.
Video games in the olympics, again with the exception of open source non changing games like quake live, cannot be a sport because of the blatant free advertising and control the developers can exert.
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>>386741959
Because it's an economical disaster
LA already has infrastructure for it
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>>386750406
>Requires mechanical precision without overt physical exertion
How is this different from E-sports?
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>>386746779
When was the last time you saw the sun?
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>>386750707
No my friend. The actual combat of Smash COULD be in a fight game. Its the rules of the game that disqualifies it. The difference between Smash and Fighting games is the following and its quite simple.

In a fighting game your goal is to deplete to HP bar of the enemy so he loses the match once it reaches to zero. Once it reaches zero, they die.

In smash, the goal is to throw someone outside the platform. You cant win by depleting the hp bar (or going to 100% in smash), you need to take him out of the platform. Its a competitive multiplayer brawler/platformer.
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>>386750907
>breath control is not physical exertion
Oh the spinning you have to do to make video games seem like a viable entry.
Tell me, why should video games be considered a sport when chess is not?
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>>386736883
If they can have Golf at the Olympics, they can have E-Sports.

Question is which games make the cut?
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>>386751030
Chess is a sport

See
>>386750382
The global organization whose purpose is literally saying whats a sport and whats its not so you spergs dont have to argue about shit you dont know, says its a mind sport.
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>>386751030
but chess is considered a sport you retarded weeb lol
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>e-sport are olympic
>/v/ is butthurt because they never done anything with their life and wasted all their time shit posting here or playing waifu simulators
>/sp/ gets better vidya discussion than /v/
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>>386740620
Those gaming gooks have thousands of fangirls, by the way.
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>>386750996
Fighting game doesn't mean a game that has a health bar. That criteria is used by fans of most fighters because they couldn't imagine a game outside the box.
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>>386743789
>mental gymnastics

Now thats what this shit should be called
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>>386751310
This comment makes no sense because /v/ is shit at games
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>>386751030
Breath control is not OVERT physical exertion, anymore than moving a mouse is. Both are designed for precision.

And Chess is considered a sport, actually.
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>>386750891
This,
Any olympic esport would have to be open source and available to everyone
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>>386751369
It doesnt need a health bar. It could be a % like smash. The difference is that once it reaches certain treeshold you die in actual fighting games (0% or 100%). In smash you can only win by throwing them out of the platformer.

Its a brawler/platformer
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>>386751268
>>386751239
Chess is not an olympic sport and does not have a medal competition.
Why should video games but not chess?
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>>386750891
Alternatively, some kid in Africa should not have to make a Steam account to play your "sport". You can makeshift a soccer ball. You can makeshift a chess board even. You can't makeshift a videogame.
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>>386751524
It's a party game, actually.
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>>386751514
>Breath control is not OVERT physical exertion, anymore than moving a mouse is
Pffft
Found the lunglet
>chess is considered a sport
Doesn't have a medal competition. Neither should video games until it does.
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>>386751529
Football isn't an Olympic sport either. Is your whole argument just "this other thing isn't in the Olympics, therefore your thing shouldn't be in the Olympics."
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>>386751529
You didnt say olympic sport. You said sport mong
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>>386736883
Classic
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>>386751557
I don't exactly see a kid in Africa prancing around on a horse or Swimming either.
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>>386751126
>Question is which games make the cut?

Wii Sports seems like the obvious one.
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>>386751734
Football is only not an olympic sport because of disagreements with the NFL and players in it.

>>386751739
Okay esports is a sport, but it shouldn't be an olympic sport unless chess becomes one first and video games drops the corporate ties / finds an open source game for it.
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>>386751843
Anything that has fixed damage calculation with the less amount of RNG.

So no mobas
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>>386751557
>You can't makeshift a videogame.

Isn't that what indies do all the fucking time?
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>>386751617
Having a "medal competition" is not the criteria of what a sport is defined as. Seeing how the olympic committee consider chess a sport, according to your fat ass wrestling isn't a sport because it's not in the Olympics. Again you're a retard who has no idea what he is talking about.
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>>386737163
>fat neckbeards

You dont watch e-sports do you?
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>>386751994
This entire thread is about video games in the olympics.
Why should video games be in the olympics over things that take far more skill, practice, dedication, time, exertion and so on?
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>>386751862
>Football is only not an olympic sport because of disagreements with the NFL and players in it.
And? The point is that not being in the Olympics doesn't make something not a sport. How is something like shooting anymore physically demanding than something like competitive TF2? If we don't count physical exertion as the end-all-be-all of what makes something a "sport," then why exactly are E-sports not a valid addition to the Olympics?
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>>386736883
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>>386752083
>Why should video games be in the olympics over things that take far more skill, practice, dedication, time, exertion and so on?
How much time do you think pro-gamers (>pro-gamers) spend practicing?
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>>386752142
>How is something like shooting anymore physically demanding than something like competitive TF2?
Breath control
Precise muscle control to the point that a small twitch can define a medal
Eyesight

All of these are exercised to a far far greater degree than they are in TF2.

Why is e-sports a valid addition over Chess?
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>386752142
>How is something like shooting anymore physically demanding than something like competitive TF2
Amazing.
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>>386740620
what woman WOULDNT want to get fingered by this man??
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>>386752332
>Breath control
>Precise muscle control to the point that a small twitch can define a medal
>Eyesight
All of these are necessary for competitive gaming, especially FPS. In addition, you need gamesense and teamwork, so if anything, it's harder.
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>>386752285
far far far less time than chess grandmasters.
People get to e-sports level mastery in a game in a few years pretty often.
For chess it takes 8 years minimum, most take 10 years. A minimum of 6 hours a day every single day for that time as well.
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>>386736883
It's going to fucking suck. It just going to be Activision, CapCom, Riot, EA and and MAYBE Nintendo rubbing money on their dicks all day and causing intentional controversy about video games being a sport, giving them even more attention and money.
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I'm against it for all of the corporate scum that it would generate. Games only getting in because the devs threw money at it. Plus how quickly things change. New games get made all of the time, devs will try to promote their new shit over their old shit.
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>>386752462
Stop embarrassing yourself you fucking child.
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sign me up, I want to fuck gymnasts at the Olympic village
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@386752462
>In addition, you need gamesense and teamwork, so if anything, it's harder.
Oh, you're baiting.
Nevermind then
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>>386752285
Except they're not practicing, they are wasting their lives
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>>386752526
>straight to ad-hominems

kek you got BTFO you weeb trash nigger
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>>386736883
I'm fine with eSports doing their own thing, but the Olympics shouldn't even be considering this.
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The only problem with e sports is that participants are limited to what the game devs allow them to do while every other sport has seemingly limitless possiblites as to who can be the best. But I guess that sense of competition between 2 teams is enough especially on a scale as big as the olympics.

I just hope a fighting game is accepted, even if you've never played a game in your life seeing a dude uppecut someone in the face is easier to understand and is a better spectical then all that MOBA lane shit.
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>>386751358
Yeah who are also disgusting Gooks too
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>>386737745
then, by definition, us shitposting here on 4chan is a sport.
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>>386752465
You forget that most pro-gamers spent years playing other, similar games before they became pros at whatever game they play now. Also, there are sports the Olympics now that require less time and effort to master than Chess, so I don't see why Chess needs to be the baseline for everything to be measured against.
>>386752526
Explain to me how pro-gamers don't rely on fine muscle control (a few flicks can win a game at a crucial moment), breath control (ties more into good posture and staying calm), and eyesight (this is just obvious).
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>>386752629
They get paid quite a bit to waste their lives having fun. Isn't that the NEET dream?
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The issues I see (other than the retarded arguments here about if its or not a sport) are updates. If the game is changing all the time, the 2024 game will be really really different to the 2028 game, if it exists at all.

Sports depth come from having the same rules for years, decades and athletes having to go deeper and deeper to get some kind of advantage.

Publishers will obviously throw money on it to get their games on. Street Fighter 6 might be on the 2024 olympics, but certainly wouldnt be there at the 2028 ones.

So I guess only dead games should be in there. But publishers will push to get their latest games for more sales. I dont see this issue being solved unless they put a rule like the game having to be 20 years old.
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E sports is projected to make big bank in the near future anyways but after it gets accepted in the olympics it'll be a monster of an industry with the barrier of entry being so low and the accessibility of the games being play being so high compared the other sports hosted at the olympics.
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>>386746264
I feel like the same can apply to Japan though, like a weeb who idolizes Japanese culture only to go there and realize no one likes him and everyone is miserable
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>>386753046
>so I don't see why Chess needs to be the baseline for everything to be measured against.
Because chess is a mental sport, the same type you're arguing for.
But chess is the peak. There is no greater strategy game except MAYBE go. To be a master at those two games takes constant practice and dedication for 10 years, and if you stop, you get worse at it and it can take upwards of another year (or several) to git gud again.
I know you brainlets think video games are sports worthy, but not compared to chess. If chess is bowling, esports is bowling with the bumpers up.
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>>386753123
Trust me, they do not hace fun anymore. Imagine being forced to play one game every day. It's not a game anymore. Plus in 2020 when e-sports qre a thing of the past, they'll all be jobless
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I can't wait for some eSports "Olympic Gold Medalist" personalities to start shitting up events.
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>>386753285
>Because chess is a mental sport
Is shooting a mental sport?
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would you rather have a gold medal for winning at the olympics or two million dollars for winning at TI?
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>>386753435
It's 50% physical, 50% mental.
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>>386742249
>Euros and 3rd world dwellers
what's the difference
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>>386753475
I'd take the money every time.
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>>386753180
>E sports is projected to make big bank in the near future anyways
Dreamland. The most popular esports have already plateaued/regressed in viewership
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>>386746264
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/6197921.stm

>The experience can apparently be too stressful for some and they suffer a psychiatric breakdown.

>The Japanese embassy has a 24-hour hotline for those suffering from severe culture shock, and can help find hospital treatment for anyone in need.

top fucking kek
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>>386753498
>Source: me
And E-sports are not? Video games are definitely not as purely mental as Chess is.
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>>386736883
autism, the world needs a spank
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>>386753498
Lift the rifle, aim, push a button, maybe dont breath for like a few seconds

oh, how physical, the horrors

>inb4 why am i not an olympic shooter
The same reason Im not a chess one, or a pro videoplayer
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>>386753754
Video games do not have a skill ceiling nearly as high as chess despite being primarily mental.
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Well watching e-sports is just as retarded as watching normal sports so why not?
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>>386753498
I'm 100% physical with your mom. And she is 100% mental.
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>>386753821
>Lift the rifle, aim, push a button, maybe dont breath for like a few seconds
>oh, how physical, the horrors
t. someone that has never shot competitive before. Sometimes shots can take several minutes.

>The same reason Im not a chess one, or a pro videoplayer
The reason you're not a chess grandmaster is because you haven't put 10 years of 6 hours a day into it.
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Might as well, quality of everything is degrading as a whole anyway
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>>386736883
ASSUMING THIS WILL HAPPEN ANYWAYS
Instead of having events for specific games they should give out medals for game genres and before the events representatives of each country should decide a few games of each genre to be played in the competition for one medal per genre.
i.e. A "shooter games" medal might have each country form teams with players for Counter Strike, Uncharted, and Overwatch one Olympics but next time countries may form teams for Team Fortress, Splatoon, and Halo for the shooter games medal.
Also a variety all around games medal Nintendo World Championship style would be cool. Imagine John Fucking Numbers overtaking Michael Phelps's role as the American Olympic hero causing Phelps to undergo gender change therapy to cope with his loss.
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>>386737952
>because now you have retards who consider motor racing to be a sport.
and your saying all nu esport games being pushed have have a higher skill floor and ceiling than carsports like rally racing?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzXJwiWsvNE
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>>386753913
>Sometimes shots can take several minutes.
hey look its a /k/ regular who's in highschool and knows nothing about shooting
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>>386737952
sport literally just means contest
the term you are looking for is "physical sport"
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>>386754107
It's usually only the last shot that ever takes very long, but yes, I have seen shots that have taken 2 minutes because the person had difficulty centering themselves.
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>>386754280
I've seen women have difficulty hammering a nail. Whats your point?
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>>386753825
It depends what game you're talking about. Games are heavily dependant on muscle memory and reaction time. Chess is primarily strategic thinking/planning, and also opponent reading.

Honestly, I don't see how games are primarily mental when mechanical skill is one of the biggest factor in FPS games.
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>>386754404
Mechanical skill in games is about as important as it is in chess.
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>>386754280
That's because they're trying not to get psyched out.
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>>386754546
Are you fucking stupid? Do you need to consistently headshot in Chess?
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>>386754621
You need to consistently move pieces extremely quickly and hit your timer as fast as possible.
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>>386753267
Most people I know that have gone to Japan have had mostly positive things to say about it. Especially how clean everything is over there.

There's the odd racist old person, sure, but it's not that bad.
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reminder: sitting on your ass playing video games isn't a sport
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>>386754621
Yes for instance Skinner's Gambit II, one of the lesser gambits in commonly played Sir Jonathan-Quirk style openings, requires three consecutive headshots on wayward pawns once fortnight requiem is active to all third edged pieces but I understand if you don't consider that one entirely valid with the commonplace of Krasiier Jr.'s Fifteenth Rook-Shrug response.
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>>386754838
Hitting the timer is all mental in deciding where to go. Literally anyone could move the piece when the decision is made, and that's not an exaggeration. Are you actually arguing that moving Chess pieces is as straightforward as headshotting?
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>>386755214
When time can decide the match, yes.
But it hardly matters. The mental level required for chess makes esports look like it's for babies.
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>>386746779
Yes, are you retarded? Archery requires strong arms, with hand-eye coordination. Also, have you ever shot a gun before. Or are you just shitposting?
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>>386755214
>Literally anyone could move the piece when the decision is made, and that's not an exaggeration.
Are YOU stupid?
What you just described is illegal by Sir Cadman-Gail's 6th amendment to drawing plays for modern standards.
Do you even know anything about chess?
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Wouldn't they have to create some really boring and generic games specifically for the olympics as otherwise it'd be against the spirit of the olympic games?
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/v/ is full of cancerous kids that really want to defend chess, and vidya as "sports".
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>>386755505
>against the spirit of the olympics
what fucking spirit of the olynpics
if they make boring and generic games literally no one will care
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>>386755505
if coke can play ads in between matches then no
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>>386755505
>free-to-play games without pay-to-win mechanics only
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>>386755312
The mental level required for Chess makes a lot of things look childish. Video games still have a huge mechanical component that simply does not exist in Chess. And it's moot anyway, because E-sports being in the Olympics is an argument based purely on the merits of E-sports, not on whether some other competition is harder.

The real reason Chess isn't in the Olympics is because it's boring as fuck to watch.
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>>386755807
>The real reason Chess isn't in the Olympics is because it's boring as fuck to watch.
t. brainlet
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>>386755752
>>386755505
I swear. If I someday turn on NBC and see DotA/LoL championships during the summer games. I'm going to commit mass murder.
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>>386755312
>The mental level required for chess
>>386755807
>The mental level required for Chess makes a lot of things look childish
Now I'm not saying I could beat a chessmaster any day of the week but do you idiots actually think chess is the single most intellectually stimulating contest there is? Do either of you even know how to play chess? Hell I'd say competitive pokemon is more draining then chess with the bullshit level of strategy and game knowledge it requires.
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>>386756000
I hate saying this. I really do, but that anon is right, normies and rich folk want to watch exciting competition. And Networks need ratings. So I guess you could say most people are "brainlets"
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>>386756198
>>386756000
Fact: Chess is only fun if YOU'RE playing.
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>>386756182
>Now I'm not saying I could beat a chessmaster any day of the week but do you idiots actually think chess is the single most intellectually stimulating contest there is?
It's between chess and go, yes. One of those two take the cake.

> Hell I'd say competitive pokemon is more draining then chess
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>>386756182
>Hell I'd say competitive pokemon is more draining then chess
Now THIS is a brainlet
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>>386756189
>YLYMPICS

You laugh you move Pics?
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>>386756465
>>386756558
Think you can win? Hit up Showdown, its through your browser and free.
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>>386756713
This isn't about how good anyone is individually at pokemon.
This is about you thinking it takes more skill than fucking chess, the most balanced game to ever exist in the history of the world.
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>>386756829
>white goes first, always
>always has the advantage because the entire game hinges on how they make the opening move
>"balanced"
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>>386756829
>This isn't about how good anyone is individually at pokemon.
Never said it was friend I just thinks its fair you try it first.

Also
>chess
>balanced
white inherently is advantaged
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>>386736883
I am negative.
There are many other non-physical sports that have way stronger legacy than esports, such as chess, that would have deserved to enter before video games do.

But the biggest problem is that it's owned by a company that can make demands and change the rules at will, and the other problem is that they have no staying power. All esports die after a few years, the games have no history.

Someone mentioned speedrunning, which honestly is one of the better options, because at least it won't change, and can stay identical for decades, building up real legacy. But speedrunning still has the problem of being owned by a company that can make demands, and it will get harder and harder to enter as consoles fail and equipment gets rare, unless they make perfect emulators.

For multiplayer games, I don't know, the industry would have to agree on something that would never change and become a standard, and the community would never move on to newer games. I highly doublt that would happen.

Or you have freestyle DDR competitions, that can be judged independenlty from the game being played, but to be honest I consider DDR to be more of a traditional sport than esport.
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>>386756927
>>386756958
>brainlets think the amount of advantage you get from being white is at all significant
The only time it ever decides a match is between two grandmasters at an equal level who make no mistakes.
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>>386737163
hi
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>>386736883
IOC is a fucking joke - adding fucking rollerblading, removing greco-roman wrestling, a sport that was a part of the Olypic Games in the antiquity, backing roiders like Bolt but ostricizing athletes from less "viewer-friendly" sports. Fuck these suits
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>>386757119
And I suppose that means you've seen plenty of those matches right?
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Am I the only one ITT who's okay with this?
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>>386757141
based fitjew
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>>386736883
The best thing that e Sports could do would have their own event. Kinda like the X-games for extreme sports
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>>386757019
>All esports die after a few years
What's CS:GO, DoTA, and League of Legends? Oh, and how about the fighting community?
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>>386757246
I've seen enough, yes.
As an olympic sport you'd simply need to either play with soccer/football elimination rules to give people a second chance if they lose early, or a tennis like system where you have to be two points ahead of your opponent for a victory, switching off between black and white each time.

But even then, neither of those is really required because the number of matches where white makes 0 mistakes is like 1 in a few dozen, and anyone even capable of making 0 mistakes in a game of chess is worthy of a gold medal in the first place.
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>>386757225
There is nothing wrong with rollerblading desu.
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>>386757367
Wow $180?!?!?!
So much money!!!!!

People that do that retarded money fan shit with anything under $100 bills look dumb and poor
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>>386741808
I went to san fransisco once. I couldnt tell if the people around the street were homeless or just hipsters. also buildings are a mix of weird modern style and just plain old rundown
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>>386739016
Just CS and FIFA, there are the only things BRs are good at
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>>386757520
CS:GO and LoL aren't that old, and all the games die the moment they get a sequel. Starcraft died, and that will happen to LoL too. Or any of the the other games.
That's the problem with esports, a game surviving a sequel is extremely rare. It doesn't happen in the FGC game community either, by the way. They all play the newest Street Fighther even though they hate it.

Sequels kill esports games, almost every time.
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>>386758064
>CS:GO and LoL aren't that old
Of course they aren't. They're also one of the oldest and active esports games at the moment and nothing else can precede it whether you like it or not.

>and all the games die the moment they get a sequel.
Then that game will be featured in the next Olympics.

>They all play the newest Street Fighther even though they hate it.
You mean people over at Kappa who don't even play Street Fighter?

>Sequels kill esports games, almost every time.
Not exactly.

You fail to realize the reason Olympics are ever considering introducing competitive gaming to the scene because it will be a worldwide billionaire industry and the competitive scene is making money. eSports is succeeding every year and more money is being dumped out there to the masses.

The mother fucking Olympics. Do you even know what that is? It's a massive fucking organization. That should tell you something.
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>paris
who in their right mind would go in this third world shithole?
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>>386758806
Sh, people on this board don't like it when you use logic.
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>>386757141
>85 lbs

>>386757367
why do those bills look so fucking big? is he that short?
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>>386759394
>He is the son of Moni Aizik, a martial artist known as the founder of Commando Krav Maga. Tal has done instructor courses and has an active interest in Krav Maga himself.
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>>386737952
is this an epic troll?????????????
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>>386737952
>As someone who actually played a sport in high school,

Oh nice another Jr. Varsity fag who never got to play. Good one benchwarmer
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>>386736883
I might actually watch some of the olypmics if this happens
That's my thoughts on it
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>>386737163
Yeah. Because these horny fit goddesses are going to be going after the weedy greasy kids that don't even know how to shave properly. Vidya will outright stunt the sex festival that is the Olympic village

>Waxed Thor making a move on some Sweedish Goddess
>Some weedy korean kid standing there gawking
>They ignore him
>He sucks the spit out of retainer
>They look at him
>Waxed Thor says "What?"
>The korean kid, excited to use one of the three english phrases he learned, says "I play Starcraft"
>They stare at him
>Korean kid imitates a zergling to get his point across
>Sweedish goddess tells Waxed Thor she has to go practice for her event
>Waxed Thor, pissed that he's not getting laid, shoulders past the korean kid and breaks the dork's shoulder
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Can't wait for Korea to collect all the gold medals for esports and all the sportsjews flail around angrily
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>>386737952
>As
DROPPED
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>>386751617
sounds like you're the lunglet if anything
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>>386760530
Outside of the fighting game community I don't know any professional esport athletes that look like that
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>>386752432
i want to finger that boy please don't badmouth Mendo
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>>386757141
That's some bad fucking form right there
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>>386737287
Why, too much risk of getting bombed, shot up and ran over by mudslimes?
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>>386737952
>as a highschool professional athlete
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>>386751951
You would have to make a game that perfectly mimics the map, stats, move and so on, because is pointless if you are not training under the rules of the game.
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>>386739768
no one thinks london is good anymore
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>>386738626
because "esport" isn't a thing in itself, it's the use and consumption of a branded product instead of a set of rules with minimal accessory.
Before making esport a real sport, they need to aknowledge a game company to make the games espectially for it, since they can't advertise at the olympic. Like if they want SFV, they need a "olympic acceptable" SFV, were the characters are generic and the copyrights owned by the olympics. Same with the outfits and arenas to a lesser extent. All games would be like this. If anything, you'd need to play with miis of the sportmen.
But that would require branching from the real game which "pro gamers" wouldn't do (they already whine when multiplats don't let them use their one system).
And of course you need to prepare the game to play 4 years in advance, meaning all games played will be obsolete.
The last contestant are then mostly eliminated for not passing the drug tests.
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>>386749736
all logos are hidden during the events.
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>>386750157
>to intelligent for journalist
>publish a fucking coloring book praising him and his government for summer as a "joke"
pick one and only one
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>>386754004
The best idea here, separate it into genre. I also like the all-around medal like the Bi/Triathlons. That way there's no worry about games becoming out of date.

I also want more than the standard eSports of MOBAs, Shooters, & Fighting games. I want Puzzle games & Speedrunning as well. If this goes through, I'd love to have the next Mario & Sonic Olympic game to have a speedrunning mode.
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