Star Trek

>>386736078
STO is fun.

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Remember that episode that they showed the proper use of a holodeck?

>>386736230
It kind of is and kind of isn't.

>>386736230
Agreed.

Gorkon class Battlecruiser to round out the other 2 flagships I have or that T3 destroyer for the console and some account upgrades?

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Still waiting for the Final Unity gog release!

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>>386736078
only got into star Trek recently, any good start Trek videogames I can play now?

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>>386736786
No

>>386737525
dude basically used it as proper vr, he had sex with the Jewess betazed and fought off the officers gallantly.

>>386737180
What console?
The plasmonic leach?
If yes then YES.

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>>386736078
>have the non-CD version
>never complete it because the final mission is a completely bullshit boss fight
Other than that one thing, it was a good game. Although Judgement Rites is better in almost every way

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>>386736879
It's fun if you role play.

>>386737346
Elite force 1 and 2, star trek armada 1, 2 and 3 (a mod to sins of a solar empire), STO (arguably).

>>386737346
Real talk, Star Trek Online. I could give you a massive essay about all the things I like in this game from a gameplay and story perspective, but I'll shorten it down for ya.

Space combat is a blast, ground combat gets a lot better since they've been adding ground sets with interesting mechanics. The game is a labour of love from the developers, it bleeds through in every corner of the game. They've developed a significant amount of new story arcs, neatly tied into or tied off story arcs from the show and worked in a lot of really, really great writing in the process. (Play the Klingon compaign, it's my favorite.)

But the game isn't perfect. It can be buggy, PuGs can be prohibitively stupid and there's the odd bit of just really shit, unedited piece of writing in the low-level content.

Worst you could do is not give it a shot. Don't fucking bother playing on console.

>>386737802
Thank you anon, I'll absolutely pick it up as a little happy-payday treat for myself.

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>>386737578
Sounds more like abuse of the holodeck

COMPUTER

>>386738334
EARL GRAY TEA
HOT
DISABLE SAFETY PROTOCOLS

My favorite thing about Star Trek these days is watching retards on 4chan try to spin that the show is "totally redpilled" and that the new series is going to be "ruined by liberals" just because to current online culture war pissing match has rotted their brains to the point where they cannot accept they enjoy something progressive.

>>386738425
You fool, it's meant to be "Tea: Earl Gray"

Now you'll end up with some twisted abomination in the form of Earl Gray made entirely out of tea

SCHWARZER JUNGE

>>386738620
My favorite thing about 4chan is when people start a liberal vs conservative argument in a thread that has nothing to do about the subject.

Why don't you remove yourself from life you fucking faggot, just neck yourself. I'm fucking tired of this bullshit

>>386738783
Triggered faggot who doesn't want to admit he enjoys a progressive show in front of the cool 4chan boys detected

>>386738620
My favourite thing about Star Trek is that in TOS there is a suspicious amount of portrays of women causing all the problems or behaving irrationally then the men swoop in to save the day, every fucking time.

Then the suspicious portrayal of Ferengi in DS9.

>>386738620
Same. The threads on /tv/ are pure fucking gold. I've never seen more mental gymnastics. The new show will be impossible to discuss, so I'm just going to watch it and not waste time seeing what anyone online is saying about it.

Don't tell /pol/ but I'm secretly hoping they don't shy away from keeping it progressive because that's a huge part of Star Trek and I don't want them to dumb it down like the movies just to maintain the broadest possible audience. Star Trek should trigger conservatives or else it's just dumb action shit.

>>386738909
>suspicious portrayal of Ferengi
What was suspicious about it? The Federation is an enlightened post-scarcity utopia and the Ferengi are asshole, materialistic capitalists. I don't think you could get any less suspicious about the point being made if you tried.

A Star Trek game where you travel space as a Ferengi making shady deals and backstabbing people to both build the biggest fortune and try and get your body to sell for as much as possible when you inevitably get killed by someone you piss off

>>386738909
>dude the ferengi are totally jews lmao this show is so redpilled!!!
Actually the ferengi are a means of showing how bad capitalism (and sexism) is and are mostly used to show how the federations socialism is superior... but yeah bro it's totally redpilled bro they're totally telling the audience the jews are evil!!!!!!!

>>386739195
*there needs to be

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"Commander, tell me about your Star Trek games"

DARMOK AND JALAD AT TENAGRA

Daily reminder that Bashir is now a vegetable and Garak has him on a bed for the rest of his life

Fuck Bajorans

>>386739068
Well excuse me if a Maoist-based BARTERING system is no efficient way to carry out intergalactic commerce.
Enlightened utopia, my ass. Even the writers mock the Federation.

>tfw no Star Trek FPS where you play as a member of a MACO unit

>>386739826
Pretty much Elite Force

>>386739968
Precisely

>>386739576
>cardassians ocupate bajor
>turn their farms of dirt into schools and hospitals
>they are supposed to be the bad guys

>>386740112
Muh Rhodesia was evul!

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>>386736230
>>386736879

If you're not fuckin about in sto you're doing it wrong.

game is fun as.

>>386740112
OY VEY REMEMBER THE 6 BAJORILLION

>>386740112
Your "x did nothing wrong" joke is tired and boring. So you'll fit right in here.

>>386737346
starfleet command 1-3.

>>386740306
Thanks for your contrarionism, guy no one likes.

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Any games where I can play as Kirk

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>>386740571
The one in the OP for a start

>it's a Damar brings the Kanar episode

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>>386740571
just make a tos character male human, make him look 'like' kirk, and play away

Why are pedophiles so drawn to Star Trek?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ellen-ladowsky/pedophilia-and-star-trek_b_5857.html
Is it because Star Trek is a multicultural liberal paradise in space?

>>386739042
I just looked at the Star Trek General on /tv/ and I can't believe it. They're calling the new show "Star Trek Diversity" because it's diverse. Which Star Trek has always been. I honestly cannot believe how some of these retards function. They're Star Trek fans so surely they've noticed Star Trek has had black people in it before now, right? They're just fucking idiots.

>>386740935
They have good taste
I bet they like Farscape too

>>386740656
Wew I need this

>>386740946
/tv/ is almost worse than its ever been, /pol/ have moved in and the amount of retardation there now is astounding

>>386740946
Natural diversity isn't the same as forced diversity. You can't just say Star Trek has always been diverse to excuse anything that may be happening today.

>>386741596
http://www.abandonia.com/en/games/100/Star+Trek+-+25th+Anniversary.html
http://www.abandonia.com/en/games/950

Have fun

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>>386736879
I only started playing a few months ago, and I agree. The ground missions really kill the fun for me, but the space combat is great.

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>Enterprise
No games

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>>386742012
Is that the T6? How's it handle? I'm thinking about picking one up in the bundle?

>>386741864
Old star trek was diverse. New star trek is diverse. There's no difference. You only call old star trek "natural" and current star trek "forced" because in the past 5 years you've become stupider than you were as a child thanks to meme logic replacing your ability to think rationally.

>>386742128
Okay, have fun watching what is sure to be a quality show, buddy.

>>386742197
>I'm not watching the new star trek because it's diverse
Enjoy boycotting literally every single Star Trek movie and tv show, Anon. That'll show those SJWs.

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>>386742023
sht son, someone's got themselves the nx-01-a ultra mega refit the tv show was gonna have in s5.

>and then nu-BSG came along and chicken shit coward executives everywhere killed every other sci fi show to avoid having to compete

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>>386742128
This guy is right. However, ST: Discovery will probably still be shit. But it's not because of some diversity agenda. It's because they have a bunch of talentless asshats in charge.

>racists will say the show is shit because of liberals
>the show's creators will say the show failed because of racists
>both will be absolutely wrong
Get me off of this fucking planet

>>386742197
If you are refusing to enjoy a new Star Trek show because of a diverse cast then I'm sorry, but you're fucking braindead. It was never going to be a starship full of straight white men and aryan women, what the fuck do you expect? You've taken too many redpills, you're just a reverse SJW now. Don't worry, you don't have to watch the gross new Star Trek which you find problematic and triggering. Maybe you should go online and bitch about it, though. Hmm, who does this sound like...

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>>386742119
i dunno about the t6 tos connie. it's stupidly expensive. i just rolled a tos toon, and i've had the 500 z t1 connie for years because of LTS and lvl scaling BLU PHASORZ

i do however have both the t6 fleet Excelsior ( great fun ship) and atlas class rototype 23 c dreadnought (which flies almost as well as an escort.)

The original series is still the best

>>386742430
It's going to be shit because everyone involved in creating it is shit. I'm glad you aren't an idiot anon kun.

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>>386742558
>mfw watched TNG, DS9 and ENT but haven't touched TOS yet
I don't know why desu, maybe I'm just instinctively saving it for last. I'll be damned if I watch VOY before TOS though.

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goddam maintenance in 30 minutes.

watch maint break something, i swear.

we'll all be flying our ships around as 250000:1 models in ESD now...

>>386742456
See, you can tell how you're a racist because you look at michelle nichols and you look at the lead for the new show and all you see is niggers. You can't see any difference between the two. Nobody wanted a pure white star trek, retard, they wanted a new series not made by virtue signalling hacks.

>>386742430
It's just going to be like DS9 where nobody can actually talk reasonably about how good or bad it is until 10 years after it's finished. DS9 had people crying about "SJW shit" back then the whole way through its production. Imagine what /tv/ would think of DS9 if it was airing now. They'd lose their fucking minds. But now it's old so people are fine with saying they like it. And that it was "diversity done right" and so on. But the new show is diversity done wrong because ??????

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>>386742718
tos is cheesy as F because low budget 60's sci fi, but it also did stuff in tv way before any one else even dared.

>>386742789
>I'm not watching the new Star Trek because of diversity!
That sounds silly, Anon. You're being silly.
>nuh-uh, btw you're actually the racist here because you think all niggers are the same

Are you on medication?

>>386742718
I haven't watched TOS in about 15 years but I recall it being excellent for the most part.

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>>386742795
>And that it was "diversity done right" and so on
I did like the episode where IIRC Worf was trying to kill his brother or commit suicide or something and Sisko said something to the extent of
>I'm fine with accommodating other cultures, but we can only tolerate so much!

Sisko is so based. GOAT.

>>386742795
If DS9 was coming out now this place would be filled with WE WUZ posting

>>386742934
Pretending you don't understand what I'm saying doesn't make it go away.

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>>386742949
yeah, certain episodes are still freaking sweet or mindblowing today.

Balance of Terror man, UNF

>>386742934
He right in a way. Virtue signalling and narcissism go hand and hand. Look for the loudest saint, and you usually find the biggest 'racist' (if you can call it that) in the room.

>>386736786
>>386737578
I loved that episode

>computer, simulate the early 21st century video game developer Todd Howard
>computer? did you receive my request?
>Todd Howard has been created.
>i can't see him...
>Todd Howard is too small for the human eye to perceive.

>>386742990
Sisko was willing to play dirty to win. I think Archer was too, to an extent.

Did Picard ever do that?

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>>386743213
I don't think so. Picard was the super idealist of the Federation, probably the best poster boy for them. Archer and Sisko were willing to compromise themselves to protect what was important.

Archer is my favorite captain

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>>386743213
Movie Picard would, not so much TV Picard.

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helss yeah, some good taste in ships 'm seeing, anyone bought the t6 miranda?

the kdf version is also fucking sweet.

>>386742949

TOS is a super mixed bag. The first season is straight up one of the best seasons of any scifi show ever put on television. Eps like Space Seed, Devil in the Dark, City on the Edge of Forever, Balance of Terror, Naked Time, Arena, Squire of Gothos are the reason why the show became a phenomenon. Then mixed in you have utter garbage like The Alternative Factor. Season 2 still has some great episodes like Amok Time, Doomsday Machine, Mirror Mirror, and Trouble with Tribbles, but there's a lot more that are boring, cheap, or just bad. And season 3 is a trainwreck with zero budget and hardly a good episode in the whole lot. On the whole though, even when TOS is being campy and dumb, it's better than the average episode in the spinoffs. Much as I love them, they are mostly pretty dull with a few standout episodes (or in the case of DS9 a few standout arcs as well). If the franchise had begun with a show as bad as Voyager or Enterprise, nobody would ever have decided to make a sequel.

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Just here to post the best looking class of ships the federation has.

Retrofit also applies.

>>386743067
Then explain it to me in a way that doesn't make you sound like a retard.
You refuse to watch the new Star Trek because it has a diverse cast. Star Trek, in every iteration, has had a diverse cast. But it's only a problem for you NOW when it wasn't before.

Explain your logic without admitting you've let 4chan memes turn your brain to mush.

>>386743213
>Picard, kill the Borg
>Hmmmmmm, nah
The bloodiest hands in all the Federation

>>386742538
how to be a raging aspie, speak fucking english jesus also lmao at your lives talking about star wars nerds

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>>386743528
You posted the wrong ship anon. I'll fix it for you.

>>386743708
dude don't you get it? anyone other than a straight white man being in a show is now cultural marxism and it must be resisted if you want to save western civilization
but any show made before 2010 which has diversity in it is fine because I was young then and liberals hadn't been invented yet

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>>386743528

my nigerian brethren from a differing maternal source!

>when half your ship is engines

>>386743980
looks like a bath toy
it's still my favourite

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>>386743980
do you have the t6 version?

>>386738620
I didn't believe you but then they appeared in this very thread. People are definitely dumber today then they were in the 90s.

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Tell me captain, if the federation is so great, why are there no good Star Trek games?

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>ywn command / crew a starship with a massive spinal lance weapon larger than most other ships.

>>386743708
I never said I refused to watch the new show.I don't refuse to watch it. What i'm trying to tell you is that Roddenberry et. al. creating an organically diverse cast =/= modern entertainment execs going through a checklist starting with stronk independent womyn of colour. But since you just look at Michelle Nichols and only see a nigger, same as the new lead, it looks exactly the same to you.

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>Trek fans have convinced themselves all they need is a mediocre MMO and a VR game.

>>386744241
No, I wish. I have the T6 NX and the Universe class though.

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>>386744479
Damar > Dukat

>>386737957
>But the game isn't perfect. It can be buggy, PuGs can be prohibitively stupid and there's the odd bit of just really shit, unedited piece of writing in the low-level content.

I love how back in the day, PuGs were so bad and dungeons were vaugely hard that it was easier to use complex glitches to beat bosses than it was to actually do them properly.

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>>386744704
the t6 version is the equivalent of like, 400 fucking keys or some stupid number like that.

>>386741887
Bless you anon

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>>386744742

>when pugs are so retarded they do stf's 50 times in a row and still refuse to learn how to do them, ever.

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>Tfw flying around in a excelssior with hull and shield heal skills up the wazoo and pulse phasers which heal me while they damage enemies

Feels good mon!

>>386744680
STO is the perfect star trek mmo though. It's janky in all the right ways that make it feel like the shows do.

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>>386745190
are you me?

i can fly my pulse phaser tank fleet t6 exceksior into an elite mob and laugh off their pathetic attempts to kill me.

iirc i had to replay the final iconian mission on elite and zoom into combat ahead of my allies to even have to work at not dying.

>>386744635
>organically diverse cast
Roddenberry did not cast Star Trek "organically" you fucking simpleton.
Read your own post back to yourself and think about what an idiot you're being.

>>386744635
>Roddenberry insisting on a diverse cast is fine
>every showrunner Star Trek has had for decades insisting on a diverse cast is fine
>but now it's not

>>386744635
>Roddenbury forced basically every taboo in television
>"organically diverse"

This was the 60s, having a Russian be a good guy on TV was a crazy notion, let alone having a black women filling in a technical post.

>>386745709
>>386745916
Stop responding to bait. Nobody is actually that dense, and you're a faggot for thinking he's serious.

>>386746015
Oh boy wait until you see the /tv/ threads

Boy those liberals sure are easily offended huh, what a bunch of crybabies.
Wait a minute, is that a BLACK PERSON in MY star trek? This is an outrage!

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>>386746008
plus he put a GOOK on the bridge.

in a command role.

plus he had a black and white 'tv kiss' (shorthand for fucking at the time since sex scenes were a Big NO NO)


>sexy atlas is sexy

she's a damn fine lady, the atlas is.

Frankly I just have no interest in the new series because it's supposed to be a prequel series and I'm sure they'll fuck it up with a bunch of anachronistic mistakes or humanizing the Klingons while still being at war, and I really didn't need to see a prequel addressing problems with the Federation or whatever, I just wanted to see original ideas imposed onto an odyssey through space.

>>386746458
He put a gay gook on the bridge.
I mean Roddenbury had to write in a hetero scene for him to not get death threats, but Takei was hella gay.

>>386746679
that too.

although takei and everyone else from tos were incensed when kelvinterek retards made nu-sulu gayer than xmas.

to paraphase takei,
>sulu is straight, I'M a prancing la la man and proud of it, dammit.

>>386746817
desu I thought it was kinda a nice touch, nothing too heavy handed, it was just kinda there. I can get why he might dislike it for sure, I thought it was a nice, well spirited shout out.

And if I'm honest it was one of the moments that gave it the real "star trek" feel, Beyond was literally the only real trek film out of the 3 reboots so far.

>tfw finally finished watching all of Star Trek minus the cartoon
Barclay is right to be afraid of transporting given how many fucking times something goes wrong with it across the entire series.

That and Holodeck security protocols being useless.
Or only Odo being the only security officer in the alpha quadrant that was smart enough to utilize cameras

On the gaming side, how were the 3d-era titles? Never played any of them, like that Klingon game, or the Voyager ones.

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>mfw Star Trek Discovery looks god awful.

What we're they thinking?

>>386747123
Some good some bad.

Elite force, Starfleet command, Armada, dominion war, DS9 the fallen (fuck you I liked it) are fun

Hell starfleet command 4 is a game I wish would come out, SFC3 was one of the first games I tried to patch way back in the day... god patching old games was fucking horrible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oiTLoapvrE

This is the pinnacle of Star Trek games. The music, the gameplay, it just oozes Pure Trek. I don't know how other games ever thought they could compete.

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I think the main chick in ST:Discovery is super cute

>>386747571
Star Trek Borg.

>>386747571
This game is fucking radical

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>>386747632
The ship is ugly

>oh no Star Trek has fallen into the hands of the progressives!! STAR TREK!!!
lol

>>386748435
Discovery takes place after Enterprise no? Why is the ship design a regression?

>>386748682
because idiots are making it, just look at the fugly ass bridge of GRIMDARK can't see horror film lighting.

>>386748445
Progressives today aren't the progressives of the past.

>>386749026
Yes they are. Just look at what people thought of the civil rights movement, it's basically the same shit as today.

>>386738620
I don't disagree but you seem to be projecting a bit.

>>386748435
urgh

oh well, main thing is that it works

>>386748682
The producers of enterprise REALLY wanted them to use the Akira but they kept telling them the Akira doesn't exist for like 200 years.

So they did a flipped Akira. Also you can't really make stuff look worse than ToS, ToS is already dated as fuck, but it's iconic so it gets a pass. But it'd just look really dumb.

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Have any of you fuckers played the Star Trek Armada 3 mod for Sins of a Solar Empire? About the best ST RTS I've ever played.

>>386749957
I really don't like sins. I loved armada 1 and 2, small scale works so much better for star trek.

I wish STO didn't lock cool looking ships behind loot crates and huge amounts of microtransactions.

Also I bought an oculus on the recent sale and I'm waiting on it to arrive to play Bridge Crew, anyone here plays that?

>>386750459
IIRC, the loot crate thing was a workaround, they wanted to let players have ships that wouldn't normally be federation/KDF and CBS was like "no this is a srs bznz star trek game, no tier 5 constitutions, no cardassian ships!" but cryptic were like "what about if they're SUPER rare" and they agreed.

CBS wanted the game to be 100% canon, and Cryptic had to fight them to get "soft canon" status, i.e. the events are canon but not how they go down.

>>386749952
I only watched the bluray-enhanced versions of ToS, but I liked the 'toy' like simplicity to the CGI renditions of the original Enterprise. Unlike that Transformers-esque over-detailed crud shown in that image above for Discovery's ship.

On an unrelated note, I thought Star Trek: Enterprise was rather alright if you could overlook the crude CGI aliens and Archer's constant whining about Vulcan's in season 1.

>>386750787
But that doesn't even matter now since the series has been rebooted.
I pre-ordered STO and to this day I'm barely level 50, between a dozen attempts to play it again.
It's so fucking confusing too, with its hundred currencies and dozen minigames.

>>386750924
Enterprise was okay, it got axed as it was about to get good though. Imagine if we only got 4 seasons of DS9, no one would remember it all that fondly I suspect.

>>386750924
I like ST:E too, my dude. And I like the theme song.

>>386750954
STO is still canon for the prime timeline.

And I feel ya, I played it since day 1 so I watched them get slowly introduced, but at least the tutorial isn't terrible at teaching you any more.

>>386750985
They should have axed DS9 one season sooner. Dear god was that a rushed-as-fuck illogical conclusion to that series.

But yeah, Enterprise could have used a couple more seasons at least. Shame they spat on the fanbase on its finale though.

>>386751029
I didn't like the theme song at first, but two seasons in I found myself humming along to it.

>>386750924
isn't archer's whining pretty justified though

I enjoyed Enterprise but its take of Vulcans was at times what I'd imagine Romulans to be.

Jolene was/is hot though.

>>386750459
>>386750787
I'm glad they've lighten the leash as of late, as the new stuff's been pretty great story wise. I'm just hating how much of an investment the game becomes after a while.
>40 days to max out a rep if you happen to have all the needed stuff to turn in for each day.
>Dil spending is far too high for how little you can convert per day. Unless you're sitting on a pre-converted dil goldmine, you can expect a wall of a few MONTHS just turning in dil daily till you can buy your sets, not even talking about CRAFTING said sets up to 14 Ultra Rare here ether, or even using dil to get Zen
>On that note, Zen prices in general. T6's being the most insulting thing to date. Doesn't help that T6's have ship traits that you'll want to unlock ether.
>Leech is still the most OP item in the entire game and they will never add a non-zen alternative towards it in any fashion, so get ready to spend a few million credits on one as unless you're an engie you'll want the power gains

>>386751420
how does the upgrade system even work - leveling shit to XIV seems straighforward, but what about quality upgrades? There's some miniscule chance of upgrade between tiers, but does it begin to stack after you reach XIV or does it turn into a lottery?

>>386751768
It starts to stack on each 'full' upgrade you do towards it after you hit 14. It's retarded though as you almost always need to push it towards 100% for it to go up, and that can take a few 10-20 upgrades, and you do this for each rarity upgrade.
It's such a massive resource drain, including for ship weapons, but the results are obvious as fuck.
But you have to LOVE this game and have been playing for a while to do it. Just starting out, or if you started in the last year? You might as well ignore it all together as you're better off getting other things done, like getting zen for ship traits, or saving dil for the rare DOFF's from fleet stores.

>>386738620
My favorite thing about Star Trek is how CBS thinks it will be a big draw for Yet Another Streaming Service.

>>386752395
I've been getting in and dropping it before. Last time I dropped it research was done in memory alpha. Came back just in time to whore myself out for the welfare t5 on Risa

in any case cheers

>>386742110
Good News: They do
Bad news: Its Star Trek legacy

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>>386748435
>>386748682
I think it's adequate. What made the NX-01 look more primitive compared to TOS was that it was very industrial looking and segmented with a conventional design for the nacelles. TOS Enterprise was clean, the construction was mold-like and looked almost alien in comparison with the nacelles and secondary body attached by spindly parts.

The Discovery looks like a good in-between. It's got the almost alien mold look of TOS, but has industrial elements like a large, bulky arm to hold the saucer in place and wide wings for the nacelles. The Shenzhou, which is not as advanced as Discovery, looks much more like an NX era ship.

>>386751232
Season 7 suffered from having to force Ezri into the plot like she'd been there for 6 seasons and from what they did to Gul Dukat/the Prophets story arc in general

When it's not doing either of those things, it's a decent enough season

>>386736879
its boring as fuck

>>386741887
Is there an installation guide I'm dumb and can't find one

>>386751232
>>386753020
The last season was okay, but the story definitely made some blunders.
>Jadzia dying
>Sisko dying
>Dukat becoming the Anti-christ
These were huge mistakes. Admittedly, the Jadzia situation couldn't be helped. It's kind of funny how Terry Farrel is so gung-ho about getting that sweet DS9 kickstarter money after she left the show high and dry back in the 90s.

>>386753092
I put the files in their own folder and then use DOSBox to play it. It's a bit of a pain in the ass and there's probably a quicker way but eh

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just look at the cheeky grin on this klingon fu's face.

she's happy to see you!

>>386753248
>Dukat becoming the Anti-christ

I genuinely think it's kinda poetic. But I wish it had a slower build up.

>>386753410
I don't have that much of a problem with the concept, but it just felt a little hokey and unnecessary. I think the plot with Sisko being some sort of divine being got out of control towards the end. Dukat was at his best when he was a smooth talking alien Nazi manipulating the government and people.

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greenskin wimminz are best

Race tiers

Top: ferengi, klingon, jem'hadar
Mid Tier: android, cardassians, romulans, gorn
Low Tier: human, vulcan, changling
sub low tier: trill, bajoran

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>>386752678
Honestly I'd say as progression goes:
>Do all that you need to do to max out every rep.
>Farm out Terrain Task Force the most as it's ship set is OP as fuck and everyone uses it, New Romulus after that
>Get a TON of ships for the Admiralty system. You just have to have them on hand once to get their cards, then can ether shelf or sell them afterwords. The T4/T5 Mirror Universe ships are pretty great for this as they always go for dirt cheap.
>Get purple DOFF's. Just get them. Look up guides fro a few of the DOFF quest chains and do them. Do stuff for fleet for fleet credits and buy them. Just get them all. You will feel better about everything once you do.
>Don't feel like you should be doing a ton on any one day. This entire game goes by days, and honestly you can expect some days just being to log in, click a few HUD buttons to refine dil, and to set up stuff for reps and other things, and then log the fuck back off. You need to play this every day, but you don't need to do a lot in turn.

>>386744627
ahh the Galaxy Dread, I bought the Yamato Dread myself.

well...because I am a kantai fag, but my favorite ship so far. gonna get the saucer sep module next month.

>>386753545
Eh, it was just done a bit too fast imo. Dukat, who spent FOREVER hating the Bajorans ending up going to Bajoran culture in a way was a great irony.

Same with Sisko, they had that great parallel story where they both just got wrapped up in Bajor.

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>>386753759
>no adorians

>>386751334
It was justified, but I didn't need to be beaten over the head with his distaste for them every single episode. It's not appreciable in a Captain.

Only real issue I had with the Vulcans is how much weaker they made Subcommander T'Pol look/act with each season. I didn't need to be constantly reminded of her rather uncharacteristic drug addiction fucking her over.

>>386753248
I just like that after everything is said and done, Sisko fucked up the thing he was sent to do out there in the first place. Not that the Bajorans would have been able to contribute to the Federation much when they're so far up their own asses

>>386747185
drugs and or aids.

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>>386742382
The NX Refit is a great design. Discovery needs to have one make an appearance just to canonize it 100%.
I'd say it'd be best if it was alongside a Connie, but I don't trust them to not fuck up the old gal's design.

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>>386736786
>>386737578
I still don't understand why anyone would ever join Starfleet when you get basic living expenses paid for and you could just earn enough money for a private holodeck then spend your entire life having the most degenerate sex with the most personally appealing species possible, all day, every day, any fetish you could imagine.

>>386753759
DS9 made the Ferengi race look like a joke though. A bunch of idiotic bigots that somehow made it to the point of being able to develop a warp drive.

>>386754118
i haven't watched janeways ride thru menopause or sam beckett gets a spaceship

>>386754235
There's clearly not enough holodecks for everyone to use them constantly.

And people do things because they want to, they think it'll give them some fulfilment. Starfleet are explorers as much, if not more than they're soldiers. And with sometihng as vast as the federation you only need a small percentage of people to join to have a huge amount of personnel.

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>tfw no Cardassian gf
why live?

>>386753312
Thanks I'll try that

>>386754273
>somehow made it to the point of being able to develop a warp drive.

They literally bought warp drive, they never developed it.

>>386754341
They're in TOS as well..

>>386754273
and?

>>386754352
If a shithole like DS9 could get a series of them, there is no reason a private Federation citizen couldn't earn enough to purchase their own private holodeck.

>>386753931
cheers for the tips, fellow admiral

>>386754235
>He thinks holodecks are cheap
If anything the entire seires has shown those things to be highly expensive as fuck. Ships have them because you NEED entertainment when out for god knows how many years. I think people forget that ships like the Enterprise where made where family generations where to be born, live, and DIE on the damn thing.

>>386754235
Really? People would just pursue their passions. If your passion is vidya, you're going to do that. That might end up with you trying to make your own. Some people just crave to go out and explore, do science, adventure, etc. Starfleet would have no shortage of applicants IMO. If I lived in the Star Trek universe, you bet your ass I'd risk it all to join Starfleet. Or at the very least, I'd take off to different planets.

>>386754341
VOY becomes infinitely more watchable when you realize Janeway genuinely isn't sane.

>>386740656
Looks like some people have been skipping leg day.

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>>386753931

why is that temporal t6 NOT wearing the temporal (ranger) skin?

>>386754037
saucer off gives yamato a cobra deathshead look. i own all tyhe galaxy variants too, so i can use venture class hotrod peices at will.

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>>386754341
>sam beckett gets a spaceship
laffed

>>386754685
I wonder how many times she broke the Prime Directive, and how many shuttlecrafts Voyager had crammed into its bay throughout the course of STV.
Or that silly fucking episode about Warp 10 which caused her to become a lizard and mate with her helmsman. Despite TOS doing warp 12 with no problem

did we ever learn more about what the deal was with the el-aurians?

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>>386754670
If you lived in the ST universe you'd be just like this at best, and you know it.

>>386740112
Ever watch Empire of Dust? It's a documentary and you can find it on youtube, hilarious and depressing.

>>386754865
I'm sure there's a novel out there somewhere that goes into detail about them and completely fucks them up in the process. There is for damn near everything/everyone else at least.

>>386754659
Not just expensive as fuck, but expensive to operate due to their energy demands.

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>>386754875
You're probably right, but doesn't mean I wouldn't try. We can't all be Kirk, but everyone is going to try dammit.

If you fail then oh well, just retire and live in the lap of luxury.

>>386753759
>Klingons
>anywhere near the top
They fucked up when they couldn't be assed to sit down and hash out the basic points of what constitutes the Klingon Code of Honor, so every time the word "(dis)honor" came out of a Klingon's mouth it was basically "I (dis)like whatever you just did"

And they fucked up even more when they spent so much time showing the "honorable" Klingons to be a bunch of underhanded, politicking cunts. You need to know what they ought to be in order to effectively show how far they've fallen

>>386754442
That explains a lot.

>>386755101
The only good Klingon was Worf anyhow since he was the only one to show any restraint and having a brain.

>>386755101
>so every time the word "(dis)honor" came out of a Klingon's mouth it was basically "I (dis)like whatever you just did"
>And they fucked up even more when they spent so much time showing the "honorable" Klingons to be a bunch of underhanded, politicking cunts.
Wow, sounds like Asia. Pretty accurate.

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>>386754875
>implying this isn't already literally me

>>386755101
I mean, that is honour based societies in general.

>>386755168
>The only good Klingon was Worf anyhow since he was the only one to show any restraint and having a brain.
Worf was a kinglaboo who actually bought into the honor schtick. Every real klingon thinks he's a moron.

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>>386754837
>Despite TOS doing warp 12
The Warp scale was changed for TNG, numpty. Warp 10 by the revised scale is infinite velocity.

And no, the final TNG episode where they go Warp 13 doesn't count either because that's also a warp scale alteration. You can't set up a maximum speed of infinity and then move faster than that.

>>386755298
Either a moron or an ideal.

Martok fucking loved warf.

>>386755239
In terms of priority/importance, Barclay is technically more valuable than Picard, as engineering is more critical to ship function than science.

>>386755337
True. Martok was great and honorable, probably because he worked himself up to his position and wasn't just a noble brat.

>>386755414
Yes but science is kinda the reason they're doing anything at all.

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>>386754739
Because I was a cheap fucker and didn't buy the fucking $100 something bundle, instead opting in for the $10 for a T6 ship and BOFF. It's a nice ship though even without the skin, and it's a solid boat I was using to make pugs easy as sin to clear at the time. Low effort 30k DPS is kinda nice.

>>386754541
Just keep that stuff in mind. There's a ton in the game sure, but only a few things really matter at the end of the day, and you just have to focus on those things part by part. Right now you might struggle to break 5K DPS when you're boating around. Get the Terrain set and you'll see your damage nearly triple in turn. Get the other stuff and you'll see other QoL stuff come your way, where soon you can just dick around and do whatever the fuck you want because difficulty in this game is mostly just on how fast you can kill shit.

>>386755446
Not arguing that, but in Starfleet someone in engineering would get more respect from command staff than an equal in science.

>>386747632
Can someone on the bridge turn the lights on?

>>386755414
>>386755446
Only the science division is going to be able to warn you about the incoming spatial anomaly that's going to destroy your ship and how you have to invert your deflector dish polarity to counteract it.

>>386755101
That was kind of the point. Part of Worf's development revolved around him learning that his definition of honor was heavily skewed by his human upbringing and that Klingon honor was often bullshit.

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>>386754670
No one aspires to be the replicator repair man on an ageing Starfleet tug

And yet, these ships have crews. Crews of people destined to never go anywhere in life, following a mundane work schedule doing tedious, menial tasks when they could be living on Earth or some other Federation utopia doing whatever they please

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>>386755531
fucking this!? who gives a fuck about the crew when the ship is obvious meant to be used by see in the dark ninja xenomorphs from alien, or maybe predators

>>386755490
the lower tier tos era temporal ships are cheap as F dude,

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>>386755298
>kinglaboo
>that VOY episode where EMH had an imaginary family and a klingaboo son

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>>386755528
Not gonna lie, the Vor'cha class is the coolest looking ship ever put into Star Trek.

>>386755784
>his friends see him happy
>they have to ruin it for him
Shit friends.

>>386755862
That's not the D'Deridex, Negh'var or Sovreign.

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>>386755862
The Romulan Warbird is the best ship in all of Star Trek.

>>386755695
>No one aspires to be the replicator repair man on an ageing Starfleet tug
>implying

Anyway, it's not a bad deal even in that position. Spaceships aren't cheap even in the ST universe, so you get to travel as you earn credits to enjoy life on alien planets when you have leave or take a vacation. They probably also get benefits back home. I mean, you're basically arguing that the military wouldn't exist. There's poor saps working shit jobs in the military for poor pay and they stick to it because they like that life.

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Does TNG get better? I finished season 1 a few months ago and thought it was so fucking boring, TOS was always fun to watch even the bad episodes but TNG is just so boring.

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>>386755862
which is why it will NEVER EVER get a t6 version.

Because Geko 'KDF SUX' and friens run the dev'ing and decide to screw over the entire faction at every stage so even less people play it.

>ywn have phatass vulcan thicc-fu never ever

>>386756054
It picks up around Season 3, when Roddenberry got the shaft and the writers could do their own thing

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>>386756031
forgot image

>>386755942
>>386755957
I think I just prefer how junky it looks compared to most trek ships. Even other Klingon ships are more streamlined.

>>386756054
I remember liking it as a kid but I just forced myself to binge watch it and it really is not that great

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>>386755957
i will never not be mad the retarded SFX people animated the plasma cannon fire being shot out of the main deflector in the bow

>>386755695
people forget that star trek is a communist utopia. so I assume at some level, the government has control over what people do for work, seeing as there is technically no incentive for it

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>>386755695
Or a teleporter operator.

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>>386755780
Couldn't really find it in me at the time to dump another $20 just for a ship skin and a T5 I'd never use, and dil rates where shit, ~450dil -> 1zen is not trade worthy exchange rates let me tell you. I've long since stopped as I just lost the drive to pop in day in and out of anything. It also doesn't help that I fucking loved my freebe Ody, so the fact that it couldn't go T5-U with it, and I'd had to buy the T6's to keep using Ody's anyway just felt like a rip on me. But $10 for a T6 was a hard deal to pass up on the time, including that I didn't have any T6's at the time.

>>386756305
Star trek is not communist, it's post-scarcity.
There's no incentive for work because there's no need for work.

>>386756305
are you saying you would refuse a job in starfleet?

and remember the academy's are meritocratic, so you only get stuck on a barge if you SUCK and are lazy.

the people on the flagships are from the opposite end of that spectrum.

>>386755695
the shitty old ones are for new people to starfleet. enterprise is literally the best ship in starfleet so everyone on it has probably already done tours on the older shittier ships which is actually a plot point a couple times.

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>>386756115
>have to go through another season of TNG to get to the good stuff
Jesus Christ, I'll just watch it here and there occasionally.
>>386756228
A lot of people say it's the best one.

>>386756054
First season of TNG was the writers and actors figuring out their characters. Season 2 onwards do things start to get moving.

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>>386756239
it happens man. Just like Voyager firing phasers from the warp nacelle.

>>386756529
you dont HAVE to watch all the seasons. just skip 2, or pick out the better episodes.

>>386756419
ah, well, you just missed a pheonix event weekend that dropped the exchange price to 200 dil per zen.

since everyone was dumping zen into dil to buy a crapload of phoenix prizes

>>386754659
>ships like the Enterprise where made where family generations where to be born, live, and DIE on the damn thing.

No it wasn't... The enterprise had families onboard for whatever dumb reason, but they weren't intended to spend their entire lives there. You get transferred around from duty assignment to duty assignment, just like the military. The enterprise regularly took shore leave and stuff too, and you can take leave pretty much whenever you want unless there's some big mission that needs you.

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>>386756031
While the RPG begs to differ, because a society without money is ridiculous even with post-scarcity and replicators, TNG firmly established that the Federation has moved beyond money and everyone in Starfleet is there because they want to be. There's no financial motivation to their work at all.

Monetary compensation motivates people to do shitty jobs today because they need money in order to do things like live under a roof and eat every day. In the wonder future of TNG, these things aren't an issue on planets like Earth, so why would people willingly choose to do boring, crappy jobs?

>>386754875
>implying anyone on this board would even get accepted to, much less make it through starfleet academy.

>>386756305
Did you miss the bit where Sisko's dad ran an old time restaurant because he liked cooking and dealing with customers?

That's basically what work is like, you do a thing you like doing. He likes cooking, hanging out with customers and playing piano

>>386756529
any episode where it looks like troi or crusher are going to be a major part of it skip because they are awful waifubait characters

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>>386756529
Most of season 2 is skippable. There are a handful of must-watch episodes though, both in terms of setting shit up for later and in terms of quality.

>>386756426
>There's no incentive for work because there's no need for work.
Not true. Various references in the series has established that there is some form of economy and ability to influence the standard of living.

Remember, people are provided all of the basics at a high level of quality. Food, shelter, education, training, etc. But there are people who own property, like the Picard's vineyard or Sisko's restaurant, or objects like a spaceship. Some even invest in alien economies with businesses etc.

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>>386756642
i know, alsways gets me mad when they go to the effort to make federation ships with fixed banks shoot right, and even to get the collimating phaser 'strips' looking right, but the other two major factions in the setting getting the short end of the 'who gives a flying monkey fuck' stick.

also, T6 miranda, bitches, so cute!

>>386756848
you mean there's people who WANT to work on a garbage barge in space? What's their incentive for it?

>>386756907
They do it because they want to, not because they have to.

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>>386755957
Hello, we'd like to have a word with you

>>386756848
And did you miss the part where besides Sisko Senior and the chef, they also had nameless wait staff?

Running a restaurant, cooking nice food, sure. These are things people would do. But waiting tables? Really? Who gets their satisfaction in life carrying plates around a busy dining room? Are they all pretentious hipsters trying to have a life experience to "see what it was like for the common man before employment stopped being mandatory"?

>>386756993
It's a way to get away from home and travel around. Spaceships are expensive still, it's not that easy to move around.

>>386756710
Not too sure I would come back towards it at this point. I've got both a TOS and Time Alt that I need to keep tabs on, more less for the TOS to finish the last of their stupid requirements.
Not only that, but there's been at least 2 more factions since I stopped playing, making the total now what? 10? I'm not too sure I'm up for grinding out the new factions, including that on the TOS Alt I still wasn't done grinding their base factions out ether.
I also missed the Year 6 ship, and that alone killed my last ounce of drive, even if it wasn't the UFO, it's still a ship I could have had for all my alts that's now missed out on. I had my time with it, and while it was fun, I doubt I'll go back.

>>386757013
Well yeah. No one needs to work for a living. But it still seems like there are benefits gained from employment, replicators can't make everything free.

>>386757062
They could be culinary apprentices.

>>386756772
because they aren't smart enough, disciplined and hard working enough, or are just too incompetent to do anything more, but STILL want to fly through space, so they get stuck doing something they can still actually DO.

>>386757062
I think you get extra stuff for doing work, like replicator rations. I remember there being an episode discussing it.

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>>386756889
also, this is literally the best character in TNG but she only stays for like a season so don't skip her

>>386757286
That was voyager IIRC, and that was because for the first couple of seasons their ship's power geneation was fucked.

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>>386756647
>>386756889
>>386756906
I'm not gonna skip episodes, that shit's for bitches. I'm just gonna take my time watching TNG, no need to rush things. Thanks for the graph, though.

>>386757286
Sisko mentions transporter rations when talking about his time at the academy too.

>>386757401
I appreciate your commitment

>>386757442
I think that was a cadet thing, like just a thing they do for discipline and shit.

>>386757083
>Spaceships are expensive still
Sisko's girlfriend is a freelance transporter captain and while her ship is an old piece of junk that can't go above Warp 6 or so, she's never treated like she's anything more than a glorified trucker

Inside the Federation it's probably a lot quicker and easier to just go on chartered tours of exotic new worlds than sign up to Starfleet on the off chance you'll get shore leave somewhere that isn't a boring Starbase in the ass end of nowhere

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>>386757294
did you miss her in TOS ???

WOOF.

http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Ann_Mulhall

http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Miranda_Jones

Voyager is all in Janeway's head and none of it really happened.
There's no way the Borg would let a single ship take out a quarter of their forces.

>>386756529
>>386756054
keep watching. Season 1 is one of the slowest, but by the end of season 2 and all of season 3 you'll be sucked in. TNG is probably my favorite show of all time, just just in the star trek series. Only TV show to ever make me cry, multiple times.

>>386757610
It's the federation why would she be treated differently?

>>386757842
If none of it happened, why did she get promoted to Admiral?

The Admiralty is where Starfleet "promotes" all the Captains they don't want commanding ships

Replicators can't create all foods and they aren't ever as good as the real thing. That's why things like vineyards still exist.
Teleporters probably have an allowance limit, especially for cargo.
Galactic cruises/transports have limited space.
Real estate still holds immense value.

Just a few reasons why there would be some form of economy even in the federation.

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>>386757442
>>386757553
everyone forgets that starfleet is paramilitary.

ofc they gonna have some kind of military organisation etc.

remember how the federation council and starfleet told seven's parents repeatedly they were being suicidal fucking retards, but they STILL had to build the idiots a ship and let them fly off into the heart of borg territory. in a puny unarmed ship, a gorrillion light years from any help. with a kid too.

>tfw there'll never be a series or mini-series from the Romulan's perspective

>>386757062
>waiting tables? Really?
Maybe. When you're living in a universe where a stable life is just granted to you, everything you want is whisked out of the ether in a replicator, and holo-deck can give you any exotic false experience you could want, what else remains for personal desire besides actually doing something? Even mundane things could scratch that itch.

>>386758292

>We will never get a star trek based on the drama of Romulan High Command
>We will never have Star Trek: Rom-Com

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>>386757610
you can easily get your own ship, you just have to convince starfleet / the federation that you do need it to do your work.

it'd be like a mechanic who thinks he's hot shit, going to honda and getting them to give him an f3 car, so he can fuck with the engines to prove his ideas out. eventualy honda get a better engine out of the deal ,and fucko the grease monkey gets to do what he loves stuffing his hands into some hot girls mechanicals.

factor in the post scarcity and you realise it's not that hard to get your hands on a ship.

>you do gotta pass certification though, so no dumbshits allowed.

>>386758103
>Replicators can't create all foods
Technically they can. You have to program the replicator with the specifics of the dish but you could replicate anything you wanted, so long as you know exactly what it is you want.

Politeness is the only thing stopping someone sneaking a tricorder into Sisko's Restaurant and programming his home replicator to dispense Sisko's Famous Gumbo on demand

>>386758371
>tfw you will never see a darker political drama set in the star trek universe ala game of thrones with PoV from each side.

>>386758476
You would be competing with other applicants. Starfleet has to build the ships, they can't just replicate them. Hell, even if they could, replicating still requires raw elements. It's not free, just insanely cheap.

>>386758320

I'm a barista and 'waiter' irl and i love it. i LOVE getting people THEIR shit, the shit they want or need. the look on peoples faces as i make THEIR coffee perfectly, and they get their delicious hot drug of yummy, that's some satisfaction.

NO ONE stays in a ''crap'' job if they can help it, they only stay if they LIKE it.

>implying future waiter shift isn't like 'omfg i've been working for forever! i started 3 hours ago, ugh! i am so DONE for the day!'

also, dishpig duties et al are taken care of by the replicators.

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>>386758618
THAT's the only limit. there's only x many shipyards federation wide, so your proposal and plan to the people who run them has to be better than the next guys.

>>386758521
>Technically they can
No, replicators have limited capabilities and people could tell the difference in taste. That's why people still made their own food when they could, it was seen as a luxury.

>>386758851
The demand on production would be so great, that the average person would never have a chance in hell at getting a ship. Starfleet would have no shortages of projects. You either pony up resources or your having a starship is actually important to Starfleet.

>>386758476
>>386758618
>>386758851
There are other shipmakers besides the Federation. And the second hand market. And pirates.

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>>386758039
lel, too true.
and also certain lt commander's like shelby ''hi i'll be your completely psychotic bitch today and KILL SOMETHING RIGHT NOW OR YOU'RE FIRED!!! RAWWWWG!!!''

>>386758521
Just can't replicate real drinks because synthasol shit.

>>386759071
Which would cost money/resources.

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>>386759071
whereupon you are leaving the federations post scarcity, and entering the galactic greedy selfish cuntbags R us emporiums.

>>386759117
Sisko serves up some replicated Romulan Ale to a Romulan who, after he's done being a dick, admits it's actually a very good imitation

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>>386738620

This. /tv/ Trek threads are hysterical, you can feel the impotent rage emanating from the screen.

>>386759301
Replicators keep getting better. A lot of people in TNG/DS9 keep commenting that the new replicators are nearly as good as the real thing.

Some people are pleased about this, some are like "It's not REAL man!"

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Is bridge crew actually worth the $50 price tag?

Looks much more like a $20 game to me...

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What are some games I can play and pretend are Star Trek because there's no good Trek games?

>>386759526
Infinite space isn't though.

Infinite Space DS is LOGH in space

>>386759318
>pretends to be excited by shit
No one actually likes you more for this, you can stop.

>>386759636
It's that and space pirate captain harlock in space.

btw, what did you guys get during the phoenix box event?
I got myself enough upgrade tokens to gild all of my WoK alts space weapons and TOS alts space weapons.

Wouldn't replicated food get insanely boring after a while? Since it's uniformly created, there would be no variation unless you manually input it. Real food would have variations based on cooking conditions/technique. I imagine replicator food would be seen as basic, whereas food by a quality chef would be a commodity.

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>>386759716
that too.

>>386759804
Yes, this is basically how it goes, everyone bitches about replicator food.

>>386759787
I just converted everything into upgrade tokens because last time they ran the box I got all the other toys I wanted.

>>386759895
replicator food is basically REALLY REALLY good MRE / 2 minute noodles tier.

at the end of the days, it's still a fucking mre and no comparison to shit made from fresh real ingredients.

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>>386759896
did you get the t6 jem DC?

>>386760023
I'd say it's more like an average cafeteria meal. It's mass produced and it's passable unless you manually edit how the replicator does it, which is what a lot of people do.

But yeah everyone likes getting cooked food because it's just better. And they complain mostly because well, it's relative, for them the fact the food has been boring for months is enough to bitch about.

>>386759804
If you muck around with the "recipe" you can have the replicator produce the food you like, exactly the way you like it, every single time. Granted, most people probably don't know how to do that, or just don't care enough to, but for the obsessive compulsives of the future it's probably a godsend

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Rate my ride.

>>386759482
It's a $20 game with the VR tax applied. Although I will give Ubisoft due credit for making the game compatible across PSVR/Vive/Occulus.

>>386759804
You get bored and start trying other dishes. Maybe mix things up with some Gagh.

>>386760378
not miranda-class/10

>>386760495
>Gagh
>replicator
If it's not alive, it's not worth eating

Even Klingons think Gagh tastes like shit, they only eat it for the experience of a half living worm crawling around their throat/stomach

>>386760108
Nope, but didn't really want it. Got a T5 bug ship tho.

>>386760378
9/10, too much blue for my taste.

The Excelsior Class is the patrician ship

What's changed in STO over the past year or so, maybe more?
I liked the STF things back when they rewarded token things for [Borg] gearn but the endgame stuff that was added after that were a bunch of ground mission stuff so I got bored.
Also I lost interest with /stog/ died

>>386760685
bootyful

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>>386760785
>>386760378

you're missing some consoles and have filled the engi up too much.

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You're chilling on your orbital station when this guy comes up and targets your shields. What do

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>>386760820
Addition of a new rep grind (as if we didn't have enough of those already) some new story missions, including the latest one where we break a klingon out of Son'a jail.
Also im not sure how long ago they added it, but they added a TOS character as a playable character for feddies, also they added a new admiralty grind, this one is for ferengi.
Also quite a few ships got added and connie and miranda got a graphical facelift.

>>386755101

Klingon views of honor essentially boil down to: Achieve victory by any means necessary, and make up a cool story about it later if it was attained through unsavory means.

If I blow up a hospital ship, and claim it was a battlecruiser, then that's how it is. If someone challenges my version of events, we fight because he just called me a liar. If he dies, guess I wasn't lying after all.

Victory is more important than achieving victory through honor, but the appearance of honor is also important.

Worf is weird and maybe even insane by Klingon standards in that he cares about HOW he achieves victory. His own personal conduct is more important to him than how he appears to others.

Unsurprisingly, he gets this from being raised by humans, being a Klingaboo, and having accidentally killed a human classmate while still a child.

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>>386761049
show it's big fat SLOW ass the full firepower of my fully operational battlecruiser

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>>386761154
Oh?