So Ace Combat: Assault Horizon seems to have been an attempt

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>playing Assault Horizon
There were so many good AC games you could have played instead.

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>>386736014
Every game deserves to be given its shot.
How can we talk about if it was good or bad otherwise?

>>386735790
I think if they took out some of the forced sections for the dogfight mode you mentioned and had it be an optional thing you could do alongside the normal dogfighting we're all used to the game would have been a lot more palatable and maybe some of its transgressions would have been overlooked. It did really feel like it was something that should have been kept more as a helpful section of gameplay than feeling like you needed to use it in order to do well on anything that isnt easy difficulty.

The bombing routes or ground attack routes were a kind of nice use for it and would have been better it it were just slightly less obviously on the rails and didn't inflate your firepower so much that it felt like the only viable way to complete those sections. But I understand that it would have been really hard to try and keep everything balanced together designing the game to accommodate both the vanilla playstyle and the new dogfight mechanic they were trying out for the first time simultaneously.
If more work had been put in to fleshing out some of the different aircraft roles like the helicopter sections which were a nice way to spice things up and had a lot of potential I think AH would have gotten some of the appreciation it deserved.

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>>386736475
DFM is basically an on rails section where the dude you're chasing is laying down the track. They tried to gamify chases to make them more exciting but by distilling it that much, they made it repetitive. Shame the MP is dead. I'd have loved to see how such a system translated into actual humans being chased.

>>386736760
I remember DFM being used in one of the early levels to pull you through the falling refinery smokestacks and near the end weaving through buildings and stuff like that and thinking it was a sorta neat way to make the game a little more cinematic and action packed but I was also thinking about how I would've felt that rush infinitely more if I was in full control and the level was set up in a way where I needed to take that daring path weaving through things like the megalith.
I never saw multiplayer but I'd imagine DFM would be the kind of mechanic that would either be the only thing you used or the thing you never used. Seems like it would boil down to people picking high mobility planes and just going through constant reversals until someone was shot down or a third person intervened.

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>>386737070
Well I think the point of the reversal is you have to risk slowing down and presenting your ass for the enemy. But how much damage they can do to you in that time window I guess I'll never know. It would be humorous to watch two guys go at it for 20 fucking minutes like that though. Like a unicorn turned inside out.

>>386736760
I lived through both console AH and PC and it really was very lag sensitive. Also it was either DFM bonanza with lag or someone firing a trinity on the ground and blowing up air targets that got goaded into low altitude chases
The hatemail was to die for when I hit a bogey on my tail doing the latter.

But despite that AH was borderline decent but I rather not live through it again. AC7 dont let us down.

Speaking of ace combat, I wonder what will happen to infinity. Would be a shame to lose my level 20 Buddy morgan that I grinded while being pure F2P

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>>386736014
>Play Assault Horizon because I love AC and wanted to experience both the highs and low
>Slap Anime Girls on my plane and just roll with the punches

I have no regrets.

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>>386737361
>The hatemail was to die for when I hit a bogey on my tail doing the latter.
You didn't fucking nuke yourself in the process??????
Actually better question.
THEY LET YOU LOAD TRINITY IN THE MP???????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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>>386737394
>Not slapping THIS anime girl on your plane.

The idea behind the dogfighting mode itself was just simply retarded. I want to fliy the plane myself im not reading a tom clancy book

>386737497
Bad form mate. But yes. It was usable on MP but only lucky nuggets or true aces get it

Also to expand on the idea, people LOVED to DFM around in mp so much that most forget you can blow up others without using it. DFMing was also dangerous as slowing down and angling badly can result in a shot down.

Used to play and had a match that me and a guy looped for like 10? Times before a bystander couldn't stand it anymore and shot me down.

Firing trinity in MP at air is useless and mostly used at low altitude BRAPS.

Fuck I remember a time me and my bro played AC0. Used FAEB on him thinking I was memeing around haha fuck those were awesome times. Emulatable in ACI too though

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>>386737637
Good taste.

I'm fine with it existing. Just don't call it Ace Combat.

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The rebels had ridiculous fucking amounts of military assets and so did the Russian traitors.
One man, a mere fighter pilot no less, after losing literally everything, still leads an attack force of dozens of fighter craft and several fully loaded bombers into the heart of DC. Somehow he convinced them to follow him because a stray bomb killed his secret wife he wasn't even supposed to have.

Shit is ridiculous.

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>>386735790
Okay so
What if we
Okay stay with me here
Finna we
*Fires up thrusters*
You sayin' we
*Pulls back on joystick*
AYO HOL'UP
*Locks onto target*
YOU SAYIN' WE WUZ REGENERATING HEALTH PLANES AND SHIIIIIEEEEETTTT?
*Fires sidewinder*

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>>386738092
>YOU SAYIN' WE WUZ REGENERATING HEALTH PLANES AND SHIIIIIEEEEETTTT?
I'm curious now, as I've never played an AC before. How did health work before AH?

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>>386738226
You had 100 health at the start of the mission. If you got hit, you lost health. If you hit 0 health, you died. And that was it.

>>386738226
You get hit twice you die
But thats playing on something lower than ace difficulty which was pure heresy. Get Ace difficulty and stay there.
Get hit once and you die. Get hit by AA fire thrice maybe and youre up in flames

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>>386738289
Probably a concession made for the ridiculously close range aspect of being chased by enemy fighters.
That and parts like THIS where you can't even gain altitude for fear of getting radar locked.

I hope 7 does more cool stuff with the types of aircraft we get to use in missions. Getting pulled out of the baseline fighter/multirole jets and into stuff like the A-10 or the big bomber missions was a nice change of pace to liven things up and see them experiment with things. Since theres so much going on already with the game allegedly with the cloud cover and weather affects changing how you're forced to play maybe we'll see cool shit like multiplayer game modes where you've got some people that get into attack craft to hit objectives on the ground that need to be watched after by your teammates or some of that low altitude helicopter combat but more fleshed out and in-depth than "slam button combo to dodge missile every 5 seconds". On the other hand it might also feel like its taking away from the feel that ace combat has made for itself with good dogfighting and a fitting atmosphere to do it in.
I just want more air combat games.

>>386738080
It's par for the course with Ace Combat.

>>386738405
I want an escort mission MP mode
Something along the lines of Four Horsemen

>captcha morgan road

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I did not smile at a single word out of Guts' mouth until this moment.
Unfunny "funny" characters are the fuckin' worst.

>>386738532
>some of the players get put in the really big bombers like in the AH missions
>attackers and defenders have fighter craft tasked with escorting/taking out the bombers
>everyone dodging radar angles with indiscriminate SAMs
>go high and give your escort fighters more room to maneuver or stay low where its easier to dodge radar

why must my imagination play with my heart so

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>>386738401
It was a terrible concession to make for action bullshit. Assault Horizon shouldn't have been called Ace Combat. It wasn't even set in the Ace Combat universe.

>>386738780
A true man of the sky I see.
Hold on to that feeling anon. You cant imagine how devastating it was when AH turned out to be a sub par AC game.

Now can I get one of those mission inside a tunnel? Dont forget the hype music

>>386738797
So did Ace Combat X2 but that was decent anon dont deny it that and also ANTARESSSSSS

>>386738780
I won't be satisfied until we have an Aigaion version of the naval TDM from Infinity

Bonus points if you actually launch from your carrier

>>386739047
Fuck dude, I STILL want to see what would've happened further down the line in Ace Combat Infinity considering that was more like Strangereal crashing our reality with no survivors.

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This seems like a rough fuckin' way to go.

I want an eject system solely for the virtue of having an eject system

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>>386739505
Can it still be in first person? That was pretty intense.

>>386739570
Imagine Vr with a hydraulic chair

I dream of the day me and my fellow aces can play AC with decent VR. Its getting there but I hope to see the day we get to be in COFFINS

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>>386735790
>japs in charge of texture quality

>>386737394
this

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>>386739675
Ordinarily I'd agree with you but I'm pretty impressed by this given the year of release and genre of game. Some things stick out worse than others at times though.

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AC BELKAN for best gameplay
AC UNSUNG for best mission variants
AC FIRES OF LIB for best music / best super carrier

What about the others

>>386739505
Maybe it could serve a purpose in the multiplayer like denying a higher points value you accumulate for downing multiple enemies in one life sorta like mgsv's online

>>386739862
>AC6
>Best music
You lookin to start a war here kiddo?
All the games had excellent soundtracks INCLUDING AH

Ace Combat games are way too fucking easy. It's dumb that you can outrun missiles. AC4 is my favorite one but that one is probably the easiest, you practically have to let things hit you to ever take damage. I have not been following the progress of the new one that's gonna be released but they should make it the same as Hard mode on AC: Infinity where missiles are fast, do tons of damage and have very good tracking, if you don't take things seriously you get shot down in no time on that game.

Also Assault Horizon besides being shit still managed to have a great soundtrack, so I'm glad it exists. AC was in a rut, the formula hadn't changed since Air Combat and they were just recycling the same missions from before, they needed a change but unfortunately they made all the wrong choices. Ace Combat 3 was when the series peaked as far as mission variety and design goes.

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>>386739862
Guys war is bad.

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>>386737881
>>386737637

>>386740258
>but it's a jet fighter game!

>>386739862
>AC6's part.
Kek.

>>386740342
Chopper dies

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happy ass

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