AND IM FREEEEEEEE

Valve doesn't give a shit what a vocal minority on the internet thinks anymore. They won't validate you with a response. They're going to shit out this cashgrab and make fuck tons of money doing it. They'll go back to thinking up more cash grabs and ways of giving less of a shit about you.

>>386727512
>minority

>>386727429
forgot the link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lWJXDG2i0A

>>386727540
Oh yes, remember all the down votes the last CoD videos got on YouTube and how it made the game completely bomb?
Oh wait that didn't happen because cuckfucks on the internet are literally worthless and that CoD game sold the usual millions of copies with no change.

Even Dotards don't like the idea.

They either think
>Great another point for those people saying Dota is a Blizzard ripoff
>Heathstone clone? If i wanted that shit i would just play Hearthstone - Nobody in 2017 gives a shit about that
>I will just keep playing Dota - I don't care about other games

And those who aren't Dotards are just mad Valve are doing another non-game instead of Half Life, L4D, Portal or whatever.

>>386727653
>comparing cod to a card game
nigga

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>>386727769
what game it is doesnt matter
the vocals are almost always a minority in this industry because people buy the game anyway

>>386727887
>MW2
It's funny that you bring up COD, especially considering the past few games have been met with scorn by fans.

>>386727762
>Half Life, L4D, Portal or whatever.
i don't think anyone really expects any of these to get a sequel at this point but it's been 4 years since Valve released a game despite the fact that they pull in millions and millions and millions of dollars from Steam and could easily make any game they wanted. I know all of the creative people from valve are all but gone but it's still a slap in the face to their old fanbase that stuck with them throughout the years and made Steam so huge.

>>386727887
>comparing a new card game to the biggest selling fps game of all time
nigga

>>386727947
You're not getting the point. COD gets shit on but people STILL buy them either way.

>>386727947
oh
so thats why it sold millions and millions anyway

>>386727512
>vocal minority
Go to any forum or whatever, everywhere you will find that people defending artifact are minority

>>386727540
>20k downvotes
>510k views
>Difference of 490k
>Of 510k views, only 20k disliked it
>He thinks the 20k isn't the minority

Can you not into math or what?

>>386728015
L4D is half confirmed and not Half-Life/Portal, but a game in that universe too.

>>386728098
Nearly everyone criticizing it now will buy it anyway. Half of them will spend over $100 on card packs.

>>386728125
>490k people who watched it liked it automatically

you're fucking retarded

>>386728174
>half confirmed
It's vaporware. Part of why Valve doesn't release games is because there is no management. People get ideas and then shelve them because nobody will take the reigns and actually make something come to fruition. Gabe gave Valve employees complete job security and no boss to report to in exchange for sticking with the company in good faith.
>in that universe
Doubtful.

>>386728281
I never said that. I said they didn't dislike it. You don't have to Love or Hate something, you can be indifferent. But the amount of people disliked it is vastly outnumbered by everyone else. We're not establishing personal emotion, we're establishing the meaning of minority, something that seems to escape the grasp of your double digit IQ capable of only ad hominem.

>>386727429
AS A BIRD NOW

>>386728526
Thanks for denying your own arguments, fucking retard
3k people liked it
20k disliked it
490k are indifferent

>>386727429
hey guys instead of doing the ONE THING EVERY ONE WANTS US TO DO


here's a card game

>>386728641
>Thanks for denying your own arguments
>People that disliked it are the majority
>20k is more than 490k
You're a special kind of retard, aren't you?

>>386728729
>490k people who watched it are mostly people who don't give a shit and just watched it because it's trending - not voicing their opinion
>20k people said they dislike it
>3k people are paid valve shills (you) who liked it

Really activates my almonds, 0,03 USD has been deposited into your steam wallet

>muh trolls

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OR4jPtrDCLo

>>386729071
wow listen to that "vocal minority"

>>386727429
TO BE ME, IN THE WIND
IN THE WIND

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>B-But they liked it when Blizzard did it...

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Are people mad because a new game from Valve after all these years was a card game and not HL3, L4D3 or whatever or people geniunely think this is going to be a horrible game and find it uninteresting?

It seems like it's going to be a fun game desu. Also reminder that all the dislikes are the ones who kept saying that they don't care about HL3 anymore and lost all their hope a long time ago and now are apperently disappointed and mad about something they don't care about.

>>386728893
Delete this

>>386727653
Are you joking? The sales were so poor that they eventually released a stand alone version of Modern Warfare, which was also overpriced, so everyone avoided it.

GameStop had a trade in deal where you could get a standalone copy of Infinite Warfare for $1 with popular trade-ins. Activision knows something needs to change, because Battlefield 1 was constantly outselling them.

>implying it wont outnumber dota 2 players the first day
wew lad

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>>386727429

>>386727762

What's really annoying is that they've said this game will lean on and address a lot of the lore of Dota 2. I actually enjoy a lot of that shit but I want Valve to do more comics, short films or do more singleplayer stuff in dota 2 itself, not play a shitty fucking cardgame to get my fill of it

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>>386730502
Your gun

>>386728085
That is because negros and other console minorities don't go to gaming websites. They just buy titles they are familiar with like FIFA, Madden, and CoD

>>386730827
i too enjoy dathings1

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>>386727512
I hate it when you are right and an asshole about it

Can't wait to play it desu
I always dreamed about playing CCG which caters to the most annoying, toxic dipshits in the universe

>>386728098
Do you honestly think the majority of people who play video games would even bother posting on a videogame-centric forum? Most of the money Valve makes on this game will come from normies who barely browse the internet outside of Facebook.

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>>386727762
>Even Dotards don't like the idea.

Go to the subreddit for Dota. Several top rated threads praised artifact and there's a general sense of "giving it a shot".

You have no idea how hard a good chunk of people slurk down on that Valve cock. That's all Valve needs, a good chunk of retards with disposable income.

>>386730905
>>386730827
I don't understand
The scene is really funny even without memevideos
Almost bane tier

>>386731061
>go to Reddit

How about no?
Reddit culture is a culture of dicksucking where people vote eachother up for being positive.
This is hardly an accurate representation of everyone feelings.

>>386727512
You mean vocal majority, but yes, otherwise it's correct. They're listening to statistics and analysts.

Take a look at dota 2. They were throwing the whole game under the bus, just to get the League of Legends players on board. Doesn't matter how badly you piss off older players, because you suckers keep playing anyway in hopes that somehow your 2k hours and 5000 in skins aren't invalidated.

I'm vaguely looking forward to it. I like card games in general and this one seems relatively fresh for an online one.

That teaser video is a real waste of time though.

>>386727762
>Heathstone clone? If i wanted that shit i would just play Hearthstone - Nobody in 2017 gives a shit about that
Nobody thinks that, or they'd play DotA instead of Dota2.

>>386731131
Who is this "everyone"? People that post on YT and go to /v/?

So long as this cardgame isn't complete shit it will make Valve tons of money. Thinking otherwise is downright retarded.

>>386730381
And that change was adding blacks to the Nazi army, making it look like 30% of Germany wuz kangz n sheit

>>386727429
I was almost interested in this until I learned it's trying to be a card game version of DOTA and not just a card game with DOTA aesthetics

>>386731167
you dont know any details about it; how could you possibly say whether it looks fresh or not?

>>386727512
I think when he said minority, he meant in terms of Valve/Steams overall user base rather than in terns of the video. And even then there's always more views than there are votes

I think the game might be cool.

Only problem is that they haven't made a real game in fucking forever.

>>386731390
I hear some things about lanes and heroes like it was actually based off dota, though I'm not sure where that came from.

Still, I gave an honest afternoon of my time to Shadowverse and Eternal and ESL and there's no way this can be less fresh than all that.

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Why does anyone even bother defending this company? What notable thing have they done in the past 5 years?

>>386731390
Everyone was told that the gameplay is basically Dota, but with cards.

>>386727512
every time reddit complains about something they don't like in dota 2 valve change it
they had an underwater map that was made for TI7 and people complained about it so they went back to default terrain

>>386728125
How can anybody be this stupid

So how can people tell this game is trash already, besides "it comes from valve"? Did they already give some details?

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Blizzard must be shitting themselves right now

>Starcraft 2 dying
>Heroes of the Storm dying
>Diablo 3 dying
>Starcraft: Remastered easy cashgrab

When this hits Hearthstone will be dead within a week, i hope they finally pull their last card: Warcraft 4

>>386731681
The reason it's getting all the hate is because it's not HL3, it has nothing to do with whether Artefact is good or not numbnuts

>>386731560
Refunds on digital goods

>>386728125
Not everyone who watches a video votes. Out of 510k views some 40% of those people vote and of that 40%, some 10%~15% actually have a reason for voting.

>>386731681
>So how can people tell this game is trash already, besides "it comes from valve"? Did they already give some details?

What points to it being good?
It will most likely have the same problems as every other online CCG.

These devs don't understand why something like MtG works IRL.

Trading card games suck.

>>386731681
1. It's a card game, not the usual FPS action/puzzle game everyone wanted
2. It's a Dota card game, with lanes, heroes, items and shit, so nothing new
3. It will probably be F2P and have even more useless stuff to buy from in-game shop

>>386731574
>every time reddit complains about something they don't like in dota 2 valve change it

There was never a change in dota 2 that was revoked because of anyone's opinion. When they saw their player numbers drop by a 300k after the patches of 6.87, they didn't care as well, they just kept going.

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>>386731729
Oh yeah, Blizzard is literally shaking right now.

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>>386731729
>Blizzard must be shitting themselves right now

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RUSKIES JUST WEIGHTED IN

>>386731845
>It's a Dota card game
>so nothing new
what

>>386731763
>Refunds on digital goods

Other companies do this and even better. Take GoG for example. You have 30 days money back guarantee. You could seriously buy a game, beat it and then ask for a refund and they will give you your money back.

Remember the shitstorm when they first introduced crates and gun skins into CSGO? Now look at the game, this faggy card game will be the same deal, millions of retarded kids and streamers will support it if you won't.

>>386731839
Who's the team behind it?

>>386731847
>There was never a change in dota 2 that was revoked because of anyone's opinion.

Dude, Valve takes balance changes directly from reddit and even downright petty shit like swapping the icon for phase boots (an item) is something they did because reddit complained.

Why are you talking out of your ass?

>2017: This is the worst! How could you, Valve? BOYCOTT!
>2018: game makes a bajillion dollars

haha

>>386731889
yeah, I understand but GoG only releases DRM-free games
the problem in the refund world is devs/publishers, who wants the biggest walls possible
and you have to give Valve good credit for that
other than the refunds, Valve is sleeping on the microtransactions market
I agree on that 100%

>>386731884
It's a game that get it's content/lore from another existing game, everyone who is interested in Dota won't find anything new in there, just all of it slapped on cards.

>>386731889
There must be a catch to this, otherwise they would make 0 profit.

>>386731759
That's not even it. It's because making another fucking card game is an incredibly unoriginal thing. There are so many fucking card games already, and Valve is hopping on the train, because there's money in it. If it would've been a TF3, a L4D3, a Portal 3, a new CS or a new title that does something that hasn't been done to death in the last years, people would've liked it. It's just a lazy cash grab.

>>386729357
Literally nobody did and everyone was laughing at Blizzard putting out a fucking mobile game.

>>386731919
>Who's the team behind it?

It's in-house. Maybe with 1-2 consultants.

Dota MMO when?

>>386731976
Yes, but a card game based on the dota mechanics is a pretty new concept

>>386731998
see >>386731974
basically, going DRM-free is something MANY devs won't do

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look at this stupid faggot

>>386732040
Sounds a lot like CSGO

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It's another rusky casino, desu

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>>386731729
Diablo 3 is doing a bit better recently.
And WoW/OW make them literal mountains of money, so I doubt they're even concerned. I sure wish someone would threaten blizzard by releasing something really good to get them to start releasing (((good))) shit like WC4

>>386732027
Yeah and unless you can go Dagon on Meepo, because the card game works differently than the actual game, you'll be making same builds with same heroes like in the actual game, just with less action.

>>386732024
Dota has more concurrent users than WoW so it might as well be called an MMO.

>>386731998
>There must be a catch to this, otherwise they would make 0 profit.

There is no catch. Even if some people abuse it most people don't. Others just straight up pirate GoG versions of games without buying the game first.
Most people that buy a product on GoG to not ask for refunds. The entire thing about GoG is they live and die on good faith. This is why they don't have any DRM and have their Fair Price Package to offset the regional pricing (if a game is more expensive in your region you get credit in the GoG store you can use for your next purchase).

>>386731563
So basically a more entry level moba with the same heroes and mechanics, to even have the last League of Lesbian player consider trying it out and eventually play Dota 2? Gotcha.

>>386728125
why yuo cannot into extrapolation?

>>386732167
It's not a moba at all though. It's a card game.

This is like saying Netrunner is actual hacking.

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>>386731883
Wrong.
>I'm happy with the card game. I do not understand that everyone is so buhurt. Xs is already fed up, the genre needs a shake-up. I believe that the valvus does not fuck up.
>Dear Gaben, we (Russian people) are with you to the end. But please make more normal games.
>I'm happy! I hope with this KKI will begin creating a multi-universe from Valve. Sincerely I do not understand people's discontent. About HL3 has been repeatedly said that it will never be released (check the interview with Gaben), Dota is balanced, there are certainly heroes with a small picrate, but IMBalansnyh no. And, damn it, this is the first game from Valve for a long time. So, my applause to Wolves)

>>386732117
you are terminally retarded

>>386732249
see >>386732102
ruskies are happy of another source of income

Hearthstone also got a lot of hate when it was announced didn't it?

another take
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_GcXaXsmOU

>>386732343
3 B O A R D S

>>386731729
I'm sure Overwatch is still printing them money. My friend doesn't play the game anymore but still buys lootboxes.

>>386731971
This is the main problem. Valve drones will still eat this shit up and basically feed the idea that they no longer want single player styled games, so Valve will never change. Gabe's only got a few years left in him at best anyway.

>>386731848
When your most profitable product is a card game for fucking mobile devices, it's telling of your studio's ability to create good fully-priced games.

>>386732343
the commentary at the end is hilarious

>>386731791
Nice statistics. What are you basing them on? The information I'm working off of is right there on YouTube

>>386731729
>Blizzard must be shitting themselves right now
They'd be using dollar bills to wipe the shit they're shitting out

>>386732249
Means one more game for them to scam their way to a profit.

>>386727429
>this is what Valve can do after all these years
Embarassing.
Their decission to sit the gamedev scene is the right choice, after all.

2 more games left to be announced, according to Gaben they should be single players or include it, L4D3 is 100%, but don't even know what the other one will be. Unless they make CS:GO and TF2 card games.

>>386732952
those announcements are going to happen during the current event?

>>386732393
Your friend might have braindamage

Calling it right now you'll get foil/unusual cards and autistic players will buy and sell them for hundreds of dollars on the steam market

>>386732979
No, those are not Dota related after all.

>>386732952
One of them will be VR game and other just shit

Mark my words

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>>386729250

>>386732991
It's just autism.

>>386733038
I pretty sure Artifact will have VR support, no reason not to add that to a tabletop game.
I'm expecting a port of the Artifact to Tabletop Simulator, to play without hats.

>>386732997
all is as it should be

>>386732393
>doesn't play game
>still buy lootboxes
Ok, why?

>>386733179
Gotta collect those waifu skins, anon. Someone else admitted as much in a LoL thread.

>>386733096
>VR option
>Look across the board to see person you're playing against
>They're wearing funny looking hats
>Now available for purchase through crates
Be honest, we can all see this happening, can't we?

>>386733179
because burgers do that stupid shit

>>386727512
>Minority

>>386733179
Limited edition waifu skins, what else

>>386733219
Probably something Dota related only, we can't have Heavy vs Kleiner game.

>>386727512
typical consolecuck logic brainwashed into thinking you have no voice
remember paid mods?
grow a spine

>>386727512
Dota 2 has been solely controlled by reddit these past 3 years.

Id say Valve cares only what libtard minorities have to say.

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>>386727429
Are the masses finally waking up? Is it finally over?

>>386731729
Destiny 2 is expected to sell millions on blizzard's plattform

>>386733487
No anon, Valve is going to make big money with this, this reaction is too weak
People are still gonna buy it and spend hundreds of bucks on it

>>386733516
Destiny 2 looks like shit

>>386733341
what if he's friendly?

>>386733578
Doesn't stop the fact that it WILL sell well.

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>>386727429
Just imagine how they announce a new HL game and it's a fucking card game. That would have been a real kicker.

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>>386733574
why?

>>386733626
I have never seen non-friendly Kleiner.

why did they think it would be a good idea to break their hiatus from game development to announce a derivative trading card game?
are they really that out of touch now?

>>386731729
>Diablo 3 dying
Like they give a fuck they already sold millions.

>>386731729

Starcraft 2 and diablo 3 have been dead, and hots was never especially popular.

>>386733660
>play the zombie card
>get countered with Father Grigory
>have nothing but Metropolice and Scientists, because don't buy booster packs

>>386729071
Ohhh that reaction must have felt like a punch in the gut to the moderators that had to hype this shit up afterwards.

>>386733675
Because it's Valve, that's why.
They'll have lootboxes and people can't resist buying those, it's scripted in some people's brain.
And they need not a majority of players that likes and plays the game, just a minority that spends a shitton of money on imaginary hats.

>>386733768
Hots is a mixed bag. Every time I log to play a couple of matches. Its me on the team (level 40) along with levels 700+. Game is supported by the same people who have been there during the alpha.

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>>386727653
Except there WAS change, because the online hate meant decreased sales, anon. I'm sorry you can't deal with the fact that no one likes the dota card game.

>>386733865
Sales did not drop from hate. Sales dropped because they made 3 or 4 shit games in a row.

>>386733578
But it will sell millions

>>386728304
Werent they bragginh about their "Wheels" program? Where people can wheel their chair in and out of project tables as they please?
>Wow so innovative and impressive
Until nothing gets done cause you have zero fucking organisation that way

>>386733795
After what the moderators at the Pokemon Go debacle a few weeks ago, this shit is nothing.

>>386731883
>Russian trailer
So, free game with microtransactions and stuff to drop confirmed?

I honestly have no idea why people are mad about this, is it because it's not Half Life 3? I mean it was announced at a Dota tournament so it was obvious it was going to be Dota related.

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>>386733778
>tfw when it becomes P2W and everyone stops playing it after mere weeks, because richfags bought their way to the top and win every single game by spamming legendary striders and dropships.

>>386731763
Of which they were forced into doing by the EU, even then the current refund system is a bit arse.

>>386734070
Didn't stop hearthstone

>>386732343
huh...Day 9 kind of sold me on it, despite the crowd reaction.

>>386733795
Reminds me of the twitch E3 livestream where the moderators did an online poll to see if people are hyped for the new Assassins creed game and the results were a collective "no". That was a fun 5 seonds of silent cringe as they struggled to comment on it

>>386734068
Because Valve makes so much money and has some of the most famous IPs in the videogame industry, goes for years without making games and then comes out with a cash grab card game.
People expected more, not necessarily a sequel to hl2, but something better than that.

>>386734068
This is the first game Valve will release in 6 years, not counting chink CSGO, japanese arcade L4D, and that portal VR tech demo.

>>386729071
I've watch it a dozen times and I'm still laughing.

So Infinite Warfare bombed over adding SJW shit? Kek, I haven't kept up with that series since Black Ops 2 and glad it's dying.

>>386734219
>Dota 2 was released 6 years ago
U wot now

I think main problem is that they just said "Yeah we are making dota card game". This is so fucking broad we can't even start imagining what it can be. Since Valve did nothing particularly riveting in last years, people default to negative expectation, that is "Hearthstone clone with hats on".
Honestly, I think Valve decided to ride negative wave this time, since I can't believe they didn't expect outrage/negativity. I mean, it's all fun and jokes, but we are talking about one of largest corporations out there. There is absolutely no way they'd just do something retarded without planning ahead.

>>386734332
Last one was CSGO, Dota 2's been playable since 2011.

>>386727429

card games are fun, half life 3 is a stupid meme, if someone can make hearthstone without blizzard jewery and incompetence it's a good thing for everyone involved

>>386734271
The Treyarch games like Black Ops 3 are the only ones that still sell very well

I think WW2 will probably sell a lot better to because people were getting tired of the futuristic stuff

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I just hope that if this game has mods I have to pay for them :)

>>386734365
> people default to negative expectation, that is "Hearthstone clone with hats on".
Valve is known for eating up small companies and deving their games for them, not producing clones - that would be Blizzard's field.

>>386727429

watch as all this hate dissipates in a year and everyone plays this trash and defends it because some minor inconvenience is fixed by valve like giving all cards for free and making you pay for cosmetics only so the game is suddenly good

>>386734407
I mean it's been "playable" sure, but it was released in 2013.

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>>386734219
>>386734332
>>386734407

Checks out pretty much

>>386734474
Are you going to argue that DayZ is new once is out of EA too?

>>386734430
Hey I think i know you from somewhere. Arent you that fat Valve guy?

>>386734561
I'm not equating abandonware with games in active development with actual deadlines and testing phases, so no.

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>>386734721
I think you're talking about my good buddy Gabe Newell but you wouldn't know me I'm just Rod

>>386734436
That I know, but I wanted to say that since Valve didn't give people much opportunities to hail them, people now expect the worst outcome. Clonning HS is one of such outcomes.

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>>386734721
Repeat that I dare you.

>>386734878
>>386734940
No no I know I saw you somewhere before. Ah! You must be that handsome middle aged fellow that makes games for ''badasses'' right? Think his name started with R.

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>>386734973
Thats rite I am a badass

>>386733991
What debacle?

>>386735410
Google it

>>386735410
Bing it

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>>386735649

>>386727429
>It's cheap, low cost to make a card game.
>Potential to make a shitton because card game
>Low cost, high effective money grabbing game

This was their business decision. They didn't think a backlash would conjure up this badly over a small little card game. This might hurt them more being positive.

Unless there will be Steam retards who will buy into it and buy a gazillion booster packs.

>>386736143
>Unless there will be Steam retards who will buy into it and buy a gazillion booster packs.

There is a reason it is Dota themed. (Even though a lot of dotards hate it)

>>386736065
I'll give you a (you), but that's just out of pity, next time you're going to have to work harder for it, okay?

>>386736065
t.shill

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>>386727429
>Blizzard's current projects are a class based cartoon aesthetic shooter, a moba, and a card game
>B-based blizzard, they're just giving people what they want

>Valve's current projects are a class based cartoon aesthetic shooter, a moba, and a card game
>FUCK Valve, greedy jews, how dare they make things that make them money?

>>386736462
>Blizzard's last big AAA release after a while was Overwatch
>As much as people on /v/ like to shitpost, it was a massive success and it's still very popular
>Still updated its other games
>Valve's latest release after a while is just a card game for an existing IP instead of a sequel to a past game or even another AAA title
>Valve has all but abandoned all of its games except for Dota and CSGO and even CSGO has begun being abandoned too
The fact that I had to reply to this bait makes me upset at myself

@386736462
shhh little baby
now go to TF2 videos on youtube and whine that people leave your game for overwatch like the rest of pcbros

and no, you don't get a (you)

Eat fucking shit, Valve.

But we all know your dedicated drones will play this fucking garbage.

>>386736725
Don't forget that Overwatch is made using a lot of the assets that were created for Project Titan. And it's MOBA is based off of it's own games.
Both companies just cruise off of digital sales and selling crates and items etc.

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>it will still be a massive hit
>twitch streamers
>digital transactions
>money for valve

>>386736930
As annoyed as I am by OW's lootbox system, at least Blizzard actually made a fucking AAA title while Valve made a card game

Can't wait for the fan-favorite dotard esport stars to play and praise this game!

>>386731061
>Go to the subreddit for Dota
Better idea: How about you get the fuck out of this website?

>>386737132
Okay? Like Blizzard doesn't have a card game based off it's own IP?

>>386730827
2fort

WHEN THE FUCK IS THE NEW UI BETA

>>386727429
I don't get what the big deal is. It's just a shitty teaser trailer for a card game we don't know anything about.
Why even bother getting upset?

>>386736725
>>Still updated its other games
But those games aren't very good in the first place.
Also don't pretend like Valve doesn't update their games.

>>386733487
Wake up from what?

>>386727762
>Even Dotards don't like the idea.
They don't give a fuck but nice try.

>>386737371
Okay, you don't seem to understand the point I'm making here.
It's not that Valve is making a card game is a problem. It's that after years of fucking nothing, a card game is all they made. The same thing happened with Federation Force, after years with no game releases, a game is finally released but it's something that nobody asked for and it's essentially a spit in the face since Valve obviously knew what their fans wanted but they gave them shit anyway

>>386733924
Make that 5 come November. The multiplayer is god awful and boring as fuck even if you take the sjw shit out of it.

>>386727653
>>386733865
How come this bombed so much anyways?
I mean, after years of eating shit with a smile on their faces what made the kids suddenly go "nope, I ain't having that!"? I can understand people just not caring about it since it's such a tired series but people seem to actively shit on it. What makes this CoD more shit than all the other CoD's?

>>386737594
>The same thing happened with Federation Force
No, it's not. Stop grasping at straws just to be upset

>>386737683
Because Battlefield made something refreshing by changing the skins to WW1 uniforms.
First people wanted WW2 again but then oldfags complained, so people just took the one that was before.
Then DICE just delivered while CoD went into space.

People obviously have no idea about history but it doesn't matter because now we're shooting each other off camels :^)

>>386737594
They still have 2 more titles in production.
I don't even play Mobas or card games anymore. You are just salty as fuck

>>386737704
Are you literally retarded? This is the exact same situation. Years without a game then out of nowhere a game is released that is nothing like what people asked for and they start hating on it.
Make your valve dick sucking a little less obvious next time.

>>386737878
That was enough to make all the casuals go all sour with the series? Weird. Especially since Battlefield is just as tired and boring as CoD these days.

>>386727429
Considering how Valve invented PC gaming itself, nothing will happen and they'll make a ton of money off Artifact because they have never made anything bad before. So this gamergate-ish retardation will all play the game when it comes out when they're out of their crybaby stage.

Some you guys are so fucking stupid and dont understand Valve has been building playerbase instead of diluting and splitting them into L4D5, Portal 8, CSGOGO

Theres no point in making anymore games, single player fps games die off quickly and rely on content updates to keep it going, MP games will last forever if the playerbase is massive

Valve know what they are doing and you dont

>>386729071
Oh that collective groan gives me life.

>>386737942
Weren't those two VR games?
I mean I don't much care about Valve games anymore now that they have stopped making singleplayer games, but still. If I really cared I would be pretty frustrated, one Hearthstone ripoff and two unannounced VR games since 2013/2012.
Actually if it turns out either of them are Half-Life related then I will be fucking mad. Locking a game everyone wanted behind VR shit.

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>that collective groan of disappointment when it was revealed

>>386738001
that's how hype and marketing works these days, big money from the big majority of casuals.

>>386737619

>>>386737619
>IW
>sjw shit
u fucking wot

also
>3-4 shit games
>blops3 is still played and even gets dlc 2 years later

ok

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>>386738129
fucking THIS. valve themselves said years ago IF they make a new game it will be mp because there's more money in it. and what's easier and more lucrative than a frigging card game?
only idiots expect a full length AAA SP game from valve these days.

EVERYONE WATCH THIS REACTION TO THE VERY END OF THE VIDEO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_GcXaXsmOU
inb4 shill
use adblock who cares, it is a shitty phone vid

>>386738526

>use adblock
you have to go back

>>386728526
Most people, like me, just don't care and close it without even wasting time downvoting it if we don't like something on Youtube. Like, who cares? If it looks stupid, I'm just gonna ignore it and never buy it.

>>386738629
go to bed, gorhill

>>386727512
>vocal minority
>literally everyone at TI7 (the biggest Dota fans there are) groaned and aww'd out loud when they saw it

>>386728614
AND THIS BIRD YOU CANNOT CHAAAAAAAAAANGE

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Well, they know their audience.

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>multi-billion dollar industry titan
>long time top developer and distributor
>but your best fucking effort in game development in 2017 is a god damn card game
post yfw Valve is worse than EA

The most sickening part isn't that the first game in like 7 years is a card game, but that the literal entire, singular reason Valve chose a fucking card game is to tab into that retarded Hearthstone market. There are approximately 624 Hearthstone clones now. I remember when I wanted to play casual MTG, I'd just play Yugioh.

>>386738496
Well they said all of their games with have a multiplayer component, it could be a co-op mode in the style of Portal 2 or full on stand alone competitive esports style game. We don't exactly know.
Hell I think the only full game without multiplayer they have released is the first Portal.

I don't like Gwent and Heartstone is too far gone for me to start, I don't like Elder scrolls either so maybe this will do, however in reality, I think this will play out exactly like the above mentioned. You get a shit deck and either you have to put 1000 hours to get a decent one, or pay for it.

>>386737683
It's the best cod game since MW2 but that doesn't matter because cod comes out each damn year
People just got a bit sick of it, so some took a break
But it doesn't really matter tho, since the game was still the best selling game of the year, even tho huge MP games came out last year
The people that took a break from IW will come back to WW2
Nothing beats cod

>>386737958
No, it's not the same, you stupid baby.

Nintendo is making games all the time while Valve only made Half-Life and just hired modders/teams who made popular Half-Life mods and later on started to distribute games starting through Steam but still work on their games.
They just made less games, focused more on their multiplayer games that bring mad dosh, sure their other popular games didn't get any new games but they never made a big fuzz about anniversaries or some shit like that. They also chose DotA2 because the gameplay was probably inspired by it and also not to spit into the faces of fans from their other IPs.
HL card game would've been insulting.

Nintendo on the other hand was celebrating franchises left and right with games, remakes or whatever but completely ignored Metroid which had an awful game released before it went on hiatus.
Then they gave Metroid to some mediocre devs who made a boring, slow version of RocketLeague, slapped the name Metroid on it while working on another boring game which was underwhelming at best and made the RocketLeague clone the final boss.

If you have to use the FF analogy (as a cheap rhetoric), we're at the BlastBall announcement.

>>386738823
Valve is great.
They pull in millions of retards to their market.
I make my gaming cash on the steam market alone.

>>386738982
Did you seriously just gauge the quality of a game studio by their successful jewery, and did you just claim it's in any way a positive thing?

>>386738982

The most i made was 600 steam dollars because a bot bought my rare dota drop from steam sale

i'll probably play this just to make easy steam bucks

>>386738707
Yeah, as in "that's it?".
If you ask them about it, they would react like "Oh yeah, that happened"

>>386738823
>Valve is worse than EA
I wouldn't go that far.

>>386739085
Yes.

>>386738827
We don't know anything how the game is playing, apparently there is Dota influence but it was very stupid of them to tease a fucking card game when there are so many Hearthstone clones already.
It's the first thing that comes to your mind when you read "digital card game".
It might be a completely different (maybe even fun) card game but right now people think it will be a Hearthstone clone

>>386739219
Then why the hell are you even involving yourself with steam?
There are billions to earn on the mobile market with 30 minutes of game development,
Go get em, Schlomo!

>>386739085
Their track record is still pretty good and they don't shit on their IPs.
They just let them die

>>386727429
>tfw im still going to play it
>tfw so is everyone else because of steam market and getting paid to play video games

nothing can stop it

valve will shill this game on the front page of the steam store saying it's free to download and millions will play it, sad but true

>>386739414
Or just get a damn job.

>>386727429
Good.

>>386728125

You're fucking dumb, not everyone votes. You can judge how the entire populace would vote based on the proportion of viewers.

of 23039 voters, 20260 disliked it. That's 88%. If you forced all 510k viewers to vote then it would have 448k dislikes. This is literally gradeschool math anon

>implying that was what was being implied

typical dumb poster

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>>386738823
EA have actually been getting better in recent years. I'm honestly thinking of getting Origin Access, it seems like great value for money.

>>386727429
i like the dota cast, but i dont like mobas.
if the card game is fun who gives a damn.

>hurrr durr i want muh half life 3

>>386739641
EA's games have huge problems, but at least they're fucking making games, ya feel me?

>>386728125

>what is a sample

Can you not into math or what?

>>386738659
>most people
This doesn't mean anything. "Most people" is a baseless statement used to give an impression of validation to your own opinion.

Simple fact is of 500k views, only 20k downvoted, those are the quantifiable statistics. What you feel is the case, is not a fucking metric.

>>386737683
I play CoD with family
None of us wanted CoD in space. We could just play fucking Halo for that shit.

I would love to check Gaben's Inbox
because I am sure there are a big bunch of emails like "yo Gabe, what the fuck is that shit?"

>>386739908
>What is a sample.

20k out of 500k is a minority, no matter how far you scale these proportion they'll stay a minority. You should google terms before you use them you dumb fucking nigger.

Are Russians the biggest cancer to the online gaming community?
Yes.

Never forget.
The supreme majority will play absolutely whatever the fuck they put out if it's marketed decently.

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>tfw it will absolutely make valve a boatload of cash from ruskis and third world shitters and niggers
>TF2 and CS:GO will continue being valve's zombies, generating cash for years to come
>steam will continue being the premiere platform for PC gaming, shitty DRM and (recently) even shittier sales
>single player games from valve will never happen again

>>386740017

>20k of 500k (or 4%) of a population is not a very big sample size

You are clearly statistically illiterate. Many pharmaceutical studies use sample sizes in the hundreds to extrapolate effects for populations in the order of millions or billions, and they achieve very accurate results. The only potential confounding factor here is if there's some sort of difference in trends between people with and without an account, but there is no evidence for this so it's safe to assume the people who voted are a random sample.

>>386731061
>impying valve even needs the fucking game to be profitable

The problem is that even if, and this is just in theory, people stopped playing CS:GO and Dota2 suddenly, valve would still make an absolute fortune from everything else steam related.
Don't forget that for every single transaction that happens on steam, Valve takes a fair bit, making them practically immune due to the fact of how big Steam is as a platform.

>>386738342
sjw shit. The multiplayer isn't about nazis vs allies, there's not even a single swastika, and you can play as any color or gender regardless of your side. That means you can be a frontline black riflewoman for the "not"zi's. Fucking absurd.

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>>386740017
You have no idea what you're talking about

>>386739353
I'm not a game dev, retard.

I would get into currency trading/flipping but I don't have start up capital

>>386728015
>but it's been 4 years since Valve released a game
it's more like 6, dota 2 entered public beta in 2011 and the "release" in 2013 meant nothing, considering they hadn't ported all the content then anyway

>>386732343

>buuuuuuuuuulllshiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit

>>386738851
and everybody shat on the "market" (if you can call it that) in the co-op part.
remember SP games take a fuckload of work and are a done deal once completed, and we all know how lazy valve is and likes to skim the top of community work. the next game will be low effort, low maintenance, cheap to produce but plenty of avenues to monetize - and here we go, a card game.
I don't even think they have the people for a SP game anymore, the writers all left and a few others.

>>386738936
>People just got a bit sick of it, so some took a break
to be fair IW had no meme-factor like AW with OMG DAT DUDE FROM HOUSE OF CARDS.

another part is that infinity ward completely sucks when it comes to the technical side, IW mp could've been great but all the lag, low tickrate, bugs that might never get fixes etc isn't something that keeps people playing or even buy the next game when they got fucked over 1-2 times. they'll just buy EA's COD aka battlefield instead - at least that shit works properly.

>>386727653
Call of Duty, while a jewish take on video games, gets irrational hate because "It's cool" to hate call of duty now

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>>386728125

>>386741397
>bf works properly
I'm too lazy to dump webms, so be a dearie and search youtube, thanks.

>>386741762
properly != perfect mate.
I'm talking about shit like https://community.callofduty.com/t5/Activision-Support/Exceeded-Limit-of-670-Weapon-Assets-game-breaking-bug-in-COD-AW/td-p/10087156

even bf4 in it's launch state got eventually fixed (and so much post-support money dumped into it to not tank the franchise that it affect later games), good luck with that in a COD game that has a bigger issues down the line.

>>386738496
why the fuck does valve even need money
they've got no shareholders, gaben owns a majority of the company and he's richer than the president (who himself is famous for being rich), if steam was a country it would have higher GDPs than the bottom 30 nations, so what's the point in their existence? What does gabe do with all that money? Why the fuck wouldn't you make video games, you could do literally ANY FUCKING GROSSLY OVERBUDGETED GAME YOU COULD IMAGINE AND STILL TURN A PROFIT AT THE END OF THE YEAR

fuck gaben

>>386731061
>Go to Reddit
You are the biggest fag in this thread

>>386731258
that's racist

>>386728125
I don't have a reaction image to offend you in how stupid you are.

>>386739641
you only get the base games, EA's whole idea is to get you into the games cheap and then milk you with the season pass.

>>386740521
>not even a single swastika
blame ass-backwards governments and activision being cheap. an extra SKU which has to be rated on top costs a good chunk of money, a different texture does not.

>That means you can be a frontline black riflewoman for the "not"zi's. Fucking absurd.
source, because for now all we know is "females in MP" (which isn't anything new in COD either), not the setup or implementation. who cares if some resistance hobos fight LE EVIL GERMANS?

besides, activision is ALWAYS about money first and foremost, this is literal pandering for brownie points unlike dice which actually believes this shit (no surprise considering where their studio is).

>>386737683
>I mean, after years of eating shit with a smile on their faces what made the kids suddenly go "nope, I ain't having that!"?

Age

>>386742884
>a next generation that keeps eating shit doesn't exist

>>386737683
part of it seems like 2010 era neckbeard opinions finally filtering down to the casuals

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>>386742096
>Why the fuck wouldn't you make video games, you could do literally ANY FUCKING GROSSLY OVERBUDGETED GAME YOU COULD IMAGINE AND STILL TURN A PROFIT AT THE END OF THE YEAR

consider how valve operates, there would need to be enough demand from valve staff for X in the first place, then how it can work. it doubt it's less about profits, more like "IF we do something it has to pay for itself and then some with no effort from our side in case we rather do something else"

>>386734006
Yes that was confirmed as soon as "card game" was put on the screen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OR4jPtrDCLo

>>386743131
You will never be that doogo being soaped up and rubbed down by an asian man in a doggo bathtub

Why even live?

>>386743208
valve only operates how it does by mercy from the owners, gabe could very well turn the fucking thing into a midget sex ring if he felt like it, any freedom in valve is just charity that can be suspended at a moments notice

If I was gaben I'd whip those pampered faggots like galley slaves if it meant a good game was made in the end

>>386743131
Is doggo dead?

>>386743131
>Meanwhile, in the local korean restaurant...

>>386743487
>If I was gaben I'd whip those pampered faggots like galley slaves if it meant a good game was made in the end

but you need to have the drive to do that first. and THEN convince your bosses to fund it. if you're the boss see first sentence.
although they invest in some non-game shit like the controller and VR, that's at least something valve games are normie shit anyway,
I'd rather have them spend the money on a proper linux push

>>386743131

im pretty sure using that much soap on a dog is bad.

>>386743704
gaben is the boss, but he clearly doesn't have any drive

>>386739607
except somenoe who gets triggered is 5000% more likely to vote than someone who thinks eh

>>386742096
>he's richer than the president
he's not. the presidents real estate is worth more than gaben. if you don't own property you're not actually rich

>>386744148
gaben has a higher net worth than trump

>>386744467
You completely missed the point of his post and you're wrong.

>>386727429
Doturd here
If it's not better than Gwent, I won't bother.
I have no expectations, if it's good I'll be playing it, if it's bad I'll keep playing Gwent and the same applies to my whole Dota2 group

>>386732024
Techies class when?
I wanna bomb people and watch them complain on reddit

People forget the guys at the event are confirmed DOTA players
They went there because they like DOTA
and even them were salty after the announcement
I can't believe some people are calling trolls, to this pretty evident lack of interest to a card game, after all these years

>>386744976
>>386745457
do people actually believe that shit is aimed at dota players? it just has the same universe announced at an event from the same company, that's it. it's like saying hs is aimed at wowtards, because it was shown at blizzcon.

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>>386736065

>>386745818
>DOTA con
>DOTA card game
>DOTA lore
>DOTA gameplay explained
anyway I understand your point
i guess this is created as a bridge thing into DOTA for casuals (although DOTA is pretty casual perse)
it looks like that fallout tablet game

>>386745818
>do people actually believe that shit is aimed at dota players?
It's like 50/50
I'm pretty sure everyone I know who plays Dota WILL give it a try including me, perhaps play it for a day or 2.
It also helps people that are not used to Dota to get into it as well, learning hero names and abilities, etc. And of course people who may not have played Dota and will probably never play it might give it a go cause it's a new game.

Why are people so upset about this? Valve's been dead for years now. Portal 2 was their swan song, it's been nothing but shit since then.

Especially the people begging for HL3. That dream's been a lost cause for a long time now. I know it's hard to let go but it's been so long that I figured everyone got past the grieving process.

>>386746069
>>386746230
I've seen my literal normie roommates that never play video games suddenly play HS, shit's bonkers. dota is a big enough name that even mainstream has heard of it, "like hearthstone but from dota" is more than enough to get them into it. all valve needs to do is make a tablet version.

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>>386727512

>vocal minority

lolok

>Valve announces a game we've all been waiting for since Heartstone was announced
>People hate it


I've lost faith in gamerkind

>>386727613
I fucking love this song

>>386747596
now that you mention it
I am into a binge of this now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdqoNKCCt7A

>>386746593
But it's also possible to go the otherway around, like
>oh it's card game version of Dota
>well shit I'm not a big dota player so guess I'll pass on this one

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>>386731729
>Blizzard must be shitting themselves right now

Do Dotards legitimately believe Blizzard even cares about Valve?

>big announcement at main stage
>its literally just a 10 second trailer
>shows absolutely nothing but the game logo and title

of course nobody likes it. there literally is nothing to like yet. no gameplay, no art, no assets, no nothing. we know absolutely nothing besides it being a "dota card game", and that could mean anything between hearthstone and blackjack.

>>386747367
>Hearthstone releasing its sixth expansion pack

GEE A LITTLE LATE TO THE GAME DON'T YA THINK ANON

>>386748152
They released the rules of the game, it's like a mix of moba and Yu-Gi-Oh.

>>386727512
>It's a "I don't agree with what you're saying so VOCAL MINORITY" episode

>>386748209
Na, there are loads of whales (Big Spenders) to always make a profit.

Just look at the amount of people that have 1k+ battlepass levels in dota just for shitty rewards

>>386731061
>Go to the subreddit for Dota

how about you just return and remain

>>386743428
>>386743496
>>386743561
>>386743736
He is just prepping that doggo so he can toss him into a huge pan later

>>386727429
It's a pretty funny how they managed to get so many people excited only to swiftly take it away from them moments afterwards. While I get that people are upset by it, what I don't understand is people claiming that Valve is anywhere near as bad as EA is.

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>>386727429
The only thing that bothers me about crap Artifact is the arrogance of the teaser. Valve is so far up it's own ass that it thinks showing a 30 second logo with the words "Data 2 card game" underneath is going to make anyone excited. Should've shown some gameplay or paired it with something people actually want. Like more of the source engine games or w/e.

>>386748425
At least EA makes games.

>>386731061
as someone who used to use reddit and understands how they work, if the general consensus is "giving it a shot" it means most people think it looks awful. you cant say that though without getting banned or downvoted into hell.

>>386727429
>when gamergate won't just fuck off and stay dead
ugh

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>>386738081
congrats on the most retarded comment in this whole thread

>>386748524
True, I was like "...meh" after I saw it.
Some cards being thrown or heroes shown would've probably made me get more hyped

>>386727429
If they allow you to trade cards, that alone would make play it.

>>386727429
It's not made for Americans. There are maybe only 1k DotArds in the entire country compared to millions of LoL players. Valve is going for the gook market.

>>386734271
i had no idea, black ops 3 has 1.5m owners on steam while infinite warfare has 500k

>>386727429
Why are people reacting so negatively? It's just a card game.

>>386749753
It's a card game no-one asked for, that appeals to no-one announced instead of actual games people want from Valve.

>>386748857
They're probably going to make it use Steam Inventory for cards or something stupid like that, can't wait to pay some fucking astronomical amount of money for p2w cards.

imagine if steam never took off and valve actually had to make games and be smart to stay afloat

>>386749753
Because it's the first game Valve has announced in YEARS, and it turned out to be a fucking card game instead of something like Half-Life 3 or Left 4 Dead 3. I mean, expecting something like these examples might have been much, but most people expected at least something more worth getting excited over than a shitty card game of all things.

>>386735402
Oh shit I just dropped my Fallout4™
Do you have another one to sell?

reminder that everyone talented left valve years ago to go work somewhere that actually makes videogames

>>386727429
To be whatever you, whatever you like if it's wrong or right, it's all right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWhAe9X3PqE

>>386731839

MtG works IRL?

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>>386751169

>>386727429
I'll play it, I think they made this for people who don't like MOBAs desu.

>>386751242

yeah turns out it's been really popular for decades now

>>386727512
Boy I sure do love capitalism mmmMMMMm

ITS TIME TO DUEL

We all know whats going to happen.
They are going to make every card a steam inventory item and Russians/Chinamen are going to eat that shit up and make steam worse for everyone.

>>386732552
Why do they need full priced games if a free game is making them more money than their full priced games with additional microtransactions EVER did?

>>386747802
but obnoxious ignorance is a normie trait.
>fallout 3 is the best fallout ever. what do you mean it's not the first?
>don't ask me who kurt cobain is just because I wear a nirvana shirt

>>386752393
remember that this is the future we chose

>>386752860
It's not obnoxious ignorance. It is the publisher's one single job to make the game known and hype people up.

>>386728125
this nigger over here is their target audience

>>386752906
>we

look man i voted with my dollars

doesn't seem to have worked!

>>386727512
this

>>386753075
his point was people don't play a dota card game because they don't know dota, which doesn't really matter.

>>386752906
It sucks but I'm just asking, why would they ever care about releasing quality games if they can appeal to the lowest common denominator and make more money than any other company save valve, and hell they may even be beating them, why bother trying to make quality shit?

Also >>386753196 this. I've been refusing to buy games with DLC for almost 10 years now and guess what? It hasn't changed anything.

BIGGEST MONKEY PAW EVER
>I WISH VALVE MADE A NEW GAME

>>386753414
You expect people to play a brand new game with the great disadvantage of not knowing who the characters and items are?

>>386727429
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2kqSN0MeKE

ITT:
Brainlets hating on card games

>>386753550
yes, the same way they played hearthstone without having a fucking clue who leroy jenkins or all the other stuff is. that's how normie ignorance works
>hey it's a card game from those guys that made portal! remember, the cake is a lie? XD

>>386753752
Only most of the time you will be matched against vatniks who DO know every detail about everything.

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>constant reports of old talent leaving valve
>pcbros constantly shrug it off
>somehow surprised that they pump out shit like this now
you brought this upon yourselfs