Mass Effect

The loyalty missions were better written than the rest of the game up to and including the suicide mission.

>>386722369
>Or should I say the entirety of Mass Effect 2?
OP is a faggot

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End of ME1 when you decide whether to save the counsel is the high point for me. Gives me chills every time.

>>386722369
>HUMAN
>REAPER

>>386722672
>tfw Jacob's loyalty mission with his terrible father was better than Jacob's entire character.

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>>386724112
>mfw talking Saren into suicide

>>386724545

Yeah, that was stupid, I'll grant you that; but it was fun to fight and the whole mission leading up to it is pretty great.

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>>386722369

>Was the final mission in Mass Effect 2 the high point of the trilogy?

Yep.

I adored Mass Effect 2, it was my favorite game ever when it came out (having stolen the title from ME1) and the last mission was the highlight of the whole game. I made excuses for all the stupid story shit (forcing me to work with Cerberus, Liara being really weird, the Human Reaper) because I loved the setting and the combat system. I told myself that now that they've got fun combat down they'll get their act together for ME3 and write a better story and maybe bring back some of the exploration from the first game. That was the last time I had faith in a developer.

I'm still salty.

>>386724112

End of ME1 is also great, its something I can still enjoy now. Whereas ME3 pretty much ruined ME2 for me since hindsight lets me see where everything went wrong for the series in ME2. ME1 is still great though, Drew Karpashyn was still the lead writer and there's no contrived Casey Hudson bullshit to make excuses for.

Loved the song they picked for the end credits too. One of the most satisfying game endings ever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUKiOcV1SSc

>>386726863
I find ME3 is easier to deal with if you play up to the Cerberus base, do the citadel dlc and then just headcanon the ending.

>>386722369
Fallout is sci-fi and better than Mass Effect.

>>386728314
ME3 is shit all the way through and that includes Cerberus.

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>>386722369
>moments where Udina shows that, despite him being an abrasive asshole, he still has the best interests of humanity at heart
>tfw they butchered his character because casuals can't handle someone who doesn't worship the ground the MC walks on because they didn't read the script

>>386722369
>ME was the only good western scifi rpg series
ftfy

ME1 was the high point
2 was a shooter with light rpg elements and s very lines story
3 removed all rpg aspects and is gears in space

So I heard that there was DLC for ME3 that "fixed" the "3 lights" endings. Is it worth replaying the game or should I just watch it on youtube?
I knew there was DLC but I thought it was side content.

>>386722672
Honestly i wish we got a mass effect game with no fucking ancient evil, focused entirely on being a Spectre.

>>386729798
It doesn't fix it just like changes it

>>386729798
It doesn't fix it. It just turns it from a kick in the balls to a kick in the face

Two words human reaper. Also mass effect 2 completely abandons the set up and development from the first game. Its rpg elements were completely nerfed in order to appeal to more causals which ruined the series reputation turning it into another shooter with rpg elements.

>still no game where I can get my ship with my crew, explore other planets to collect and sell resources, and go to an alien bar fuck alien girls whenever I feel like it

I'm just waiting for someone to mod that shit into No Man Sky or release a indie game like that.

>>386726001
thats part made me laugh

>so i told saren to kill himself and he actually did! absolute mad-turian!

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>>386722369
I figure I'll post it here instead of starting a new thread.

I've had Mass Effect 1 and 2 on my PC forever but I never played them because I'm a fucking moron. I already know how 3 ends because my friend played it in college.

What should I know going into it? Anything I should do to ensure the PC version doesn't kill itself? I heard that some shepherd variants were not able to be transferred between games, do you know which ones or how I might avoid that?

>>386729320
holy shit this

>>386729320
yeah that part was fucking dumb. alot of things in three are.

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>>386730163
>alot of things in three are
"Dumb" is an understatement

>>386730110
Mass Effect 1 is a shooter-RPG hybrid. It's a Bioware RPG which means it's more about storytelling rather than character building, although that is still present. The shooting kind of sucks but it has a very strong and well crafted scifi universe.
Mass Effect 2 completely revamps the gameplay, turning it into something more like Gears of War with much less customization. It's more playable and polished but somehow I find it less fun. The story is crap, but the character writing ranges from as good to much better and there's more emphasis on your interactions with your party members.
It's OK to like both, either or neither. Play 1 before 2 so you can import your save file.

>>386730110

Stop of faggotage and play it. I knew how it would end too, but the feeling of watching the battles, speeches, etc, are unique

>>386729817
>you'll never just get to be Space Majestic 12 without ancient evils playing a major role because normalfags wouldn't find it engaging

>>386730271
What's wrong with him? I thought he was cool and mysterious.

>>386730646
He's "nothing personell"-tier character.

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>>386722672
>better written

this has got to be a joke

>Jacobs = waaa daddy issues
>Thane= Waaa daddy issues
>Miranda = waaaa daddy issues
>Tali = waaaa daddy issues
>Grunt = who am i, what did muh creator (daddy) want
>Jack = Waaa muh childhood, fuck cerberus (creators = daddy)
>Samara = waaaa mommy issues
>mordin = Muh student who i was like a mentor (daddy) to


Garrus, and the DLC characters were more originally written.

>>386722369
>>386729406
>Western
Only good scifi/space rpg period.

ME2 is in a weird spot. For what it improves upon from the first game it also takes away, and was the first step downwards for the series. Still a good game.

>>386730816
Somewhere in between ME1 and ME2 there's a masterpiece. But ME1 bores me and ME2 breaks my heart.

>>386730758
Parents have a big influence on a person and character, who knew

>>386722369
muh space nazis

>>386730996

still shitty writing and un-original. Kasumi wanting something stolen was great, zaed wanting revenge was great, garrus "stealth" mission was alright but at least they did something different.

coincidence all of their issues are happening at the same time? nah just lazy writing.

>>386722369
>Was the final mission in Mass Effect 2 the high point of the trilogy?
The final mission wasn't the high point, it was the obvious beginning of the end. It was the final nail that nothing of worth was accomplished in ME2. They could've released that Batarian DLC for ME1 and you could've gone right into ME3 with little need to change anything.

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>>386730758

>>386730646
grow up.

>>386722369
When in ME3 did you realize it went to shit??

I was actually hyped seeing the reapers get to earth in the beginning. but when Liara mentioned finding plans for a weapon conveniently in mars to destroy reapers was when I knew the game was lazy as fuck.

>>386731126
>They could've released that Batarian DLC for ME1 and you could've gone right into ME3 with little need to change anything.
You mean Arrival? Because Arrival was a self contained side story too. All it leads into is the trial, which is a complete plot dead end.

There should have been some macguffin in the Collector Base which was relevant to ME3. Maybe the Collectors were gathering the data on the Crucible, and that's where Shepard learns about it. Just do something to move the plot forward rather than being a culdesac.

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>>386731206
fucking kek

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Who is the best Mass Effect character and why is it Zaeed?

>>386731068
human pride galexy wide!

xeno scum BTFO!

>>386731359
>not my space waifu
Tali is best.

>>386731334


>Maybe the Collectors were gathering the data on the Crucible, and that's where Shepard learns about it

that wouldve been a good plot point to introduce so me2 didnt feel like a waste. But i dont even think they thought it through that far. they probably had no idea wtf they were gonna do in 3.

>>386731359
I always bring him with to talk me out of being a soft cunt

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>>386731467

>Talifags

Does this image still hurt you guys?

>>386731280
when the one thing that could stop the reapers was in an archive in mars and has been laying there for 30 fucking years and just now was found by the time the reapers arravid. thats deus ex machina in its finest.

also taking away the dialog options away and making shep his "own" character. no longer the player.

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>>386730110
If you got it on steam, transfer the keys to Origin. Origin version of ME1 got both DLC's included. Same goes for some of ME2 DLC's.
And play it already FFS. You won't regret it. The ending won't hurt that much if you know what it's all about (but you will still hate BW most likely).
Also default Shepard - best Shepard.

>>386731280
when cerbures went full empire from star wars and TIM willingly indroctrinating himself

>>386731628
No, it means Tali is literally real.

>>386730110
mass effect 2 is only worthwhile with all of the DLC but theres too much DLC and they never go on sale. So dont waste ur time unless u got cash to throw

You'll be missing out on a lot wihout them. Some of the DLC is better than the main game minus the final mission.

>>386731707
I loathed their inclusion in ME2 and the fact that you had no choice but to work with Cerberus despite everything they do along the way, and even what they did in the first game. Martin Sheen was great though.

>>386722369
>Also how the fuck is ME still the only good western scifi rpg series?

ME2 is my favourite ME but you're dead fucking wrong there. Personally the best is VTM:B.

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>>386731717

>Lazy developer shooping a stock photo and calling it your waifu
>People think this is OK

>>386731826
>>386730110
Just pirate ME2 and ME3 plus all DLC's.

>>386731890

There hasn't been any vtm:b content in years... Hell the game was released well before the first Mass effect, that's like saying wing Commander is still a great sci fi series in the west

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>>386731936
>tfw all the money i spent when I had no PC and played on 360

>>386731890

lotta scifi in bloodlines

I still think ME2 has one of the best intro sequences in gaming.

>>386732096
It was dumb as fuck.
>Shepard dies
>Lmao let's just resurrect him

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>>386731628
On one hand I'm pissed off that they were that fucking lazy, I mean it's Bioware they're lazy by default but to that length? on the other the design isn't surprising due to being able to see the features of her face under the helmet and it's always looked human so I've expected the asari route since day one under there.

Also got some nice fanart of my ME waifu out of it so that's a plus.

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>>386732035
Yeah, I did the same thing with ME2. I didn't get around to playing 3 until long after its initial release and I pirated it due to all the bad word of mouth. So glad I didn't give them any money for that garbage.

>>386730646
Not everyone likes edgy cereal killers with cut scene super powers

>>386730110
Ok I guess I'll just leap in and see how I go.

But regarding the transfer save issue, which customization items should I avoid on the customization screen so I can use my character in 2 and 3?

>>386731895
>lazy developer meme
What did you want them to do? Hire a model just to take a photo of her? Have you ever made a game? Or anything?

>>386722369
No.

No it is not.

The moment you pick up a thermal clip in ME2 is the moment the entire series went to shit.

>>386732051
How do you know it's not all aliens? perhaps the antediluvian's are ancient aliens?

>>386722369
Honestly I personally love the intro segment to Mass Effect 1 to an insane degree. Very little gets me as excited as the build up of Udina and Anderson describing how much you have on your shoulders, followed by the title screen, then the perfect "milk run gone wrong", that all culminates in giving the speech to your crew about taking down Saren.

I still get chills. The intro "walking around" to ME:A reminded me of it a bit, but the rest of the game just went downhill, slowly at first, but then it plummeted.

>>386732205
>Hire a model just to take a photo of her?
That would be a major improvement over some stock photo you can find in 30 seconds on google.

>>386732202
The only thing I'm aware of that stops you being able to transfer your save file is getting the worst ending in Mass Effect 2.

Only Mass Effect 1 was good.
Mass Effect 2 was shitty repetitive crap (Go to ship, choose a mission, shitty 20 minutes action sequence, repeat)
Mass Effect 3 was even worse

>>386732292
This. It's cinematic in the best way.

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>>386732205
>fans were able to knock out concept designs no problem
>Bioware badly edited a photo they got of Google and still got it wrong (the hand)
>why are people mad tho?

You're an idiot.

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>ME:A not only kept the stupid fucking ME3 style convo system but also added DA2's convo pics

I still don't get why more people didn't point out the fact that Mass Effect 3 gutted the conversation system down to you're character basically quickly quiping once every 5 minutes

>>386722369
It should have been, and it's a damn fine mission, but the binary loyalty mechanics are absolutely terrible and stops player expression. For me it's just another mission without any stakes.
Still better than the last mission of ME3

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>>386732396
>ME:A used deviant art fan pics for the Codex

>>386731479
Truth is that ME1 should have been the mission where Shepard and his crew investigate the collectors.
He's not yet a hot shot, but he's well trusted, so he gets the secret mission to investigate abductions in shaky Territory. The council gives it tacit approval since humanity isn't on the council, and so can be thrown under the bus if shot goes south.
Along the way, he finds out they're being controlled by an unknown yet malevolent force, but can't see exactly what it is.

ME2 rolls round, and Shepard's actions in the terminus have paved the way to spectre promotion. From there, ME1's Plot starts off, but now we find out the mystery true Antagonist from the first game.

Cerberus should either be dumped entirely, or at most kept on as a faction that lends small, yet key, aid at the price of wanting you to perform small favours.

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>>386732205
cant believe people like you exist.


>>386732297
>>386732396
don't forget they also took the stock photo for the final scene in m3 after the credits where the old man is talking to the kid

I started series with ME2 since there was no port for PS3 at the time.
Before MEA I replayed whole trilogy on PC and ME1 felt kinda dull (maybe because I rushed through it).
Storywise ME2 feels like a filler episode. Kinda well executed.
ME3 felt rushed but honestly with a story Bioware had to work with I think they did a great job.
MEA is shit.

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>>386732548
And some people STILL defend them.

>>386732205
Dude, an average 2D artist could draw a nice photo in one or two days. 8 hours wasn't worth the whole shitstorm. It was lazy.

>>386732297
It would be functionally the same and no one would care.

>>386732396
>fans were able to knock out concept designs no problem
You're right, BioWare should have let the fans make ME3 ;^)
>the hand
What?

>>386732548
>Game developers using available resources is bad

>>386732621
>8 hours wasn't worth the whole shitstorm
The shitstorm caused by entitled fans?

>>386732541
I forget but were the collectors mentioned at all in ME1? i dont think they were in conversations but through codex entries? or were they suddenly added the same way a magic secret weapon was added in ME3?

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>>386732645
>It would be functionally the same and no one would care.


They would make it their own character, u know.. be original? Plus they obviously do care you moron or didnt you see the backlash they got?

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>>386732645
The fans would have put in more effort at least. Oh and the anatomy of the hand in the google image is wrong, Quarian hands aren't built like that (they photoshopped the last two fingers out but didn't adjust the hand, too much work you see)

>>386732645
The fact that fans do better work for free out of love for the series and the creators with a big budget who get paid don't even care for what they're making speaks volumes.

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He's still out there

He's still mad

>>386732751
>that gif
With taste like yours I shouldn't reply
> they obviously do care you moron or didnt you see the backlash they got?
What I said was that no one would care if it was any other photo, and if no one noticed then it would have been fine. Functionally the same.
>be original
But they are being original? Tali is their own character.

>>386732801
>The fans would have put in more effort at least
Implying BioWare didn't put in effort proves you have literally zero idea how game development works and the toll it takes.
>Quarian hands aren't built like that
t. Autist

>>386732905
I must have missed the trilogy of fan made content including animations, sound, programming, etc.

>>386732663
anyone?

>>386732645
>It would be functionally the same
No, it would look a hell of a lot better for one. Cry more Biocuck.

@386732945
>it's autistic to expect correct anatomy in the creatures you make

I think that's enough (you)'s for you now, you're getting greedy.

>>386732663
They weren't, which is the problem.
ME2's plot would have been good if it were the first game, with a few tweaks such as removing references to the Cerberus and the reapers as wel as shepards death, but as a sequel it just flounders and goes nowhere.
Had ME1 and 2 switched places the plot progression would have been far more natural.

ME3 of course needs reworking entirely, but everyone knows that

>>386732945
>Implying BioWare didn't put in effort
The shit photoshop job they did on that photo is plainly evident that they did not put much effort into it.

>>386729512
This.

>>386733006
Tali needed a face. BioWare sourced a face. A different face would have the same function. Do I really need to explain the difference between function and aesthetic?

>>386733013
How do we know Tali doesn't have that anatomy?

>>386733060
But they did put effort into ME3. It is easily the best installment of the series.

>There are still Bioware shills on /v/ after 3
>After Andromeda
>After the team behind 3 and Andromeda got scattered to the winds
It'd be depressing if it wasn't so pathetic.

>386733230
>But they did put effort into ME3. It is easily the best installment of the series.
Anyone who replies now deserves everything they get

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>>386733230
>ME3
>the best installment of the series
Poor little guy, so desperate for (You)'s. Here, don't waste it.

>>386733342
But Andromeda did what the trilogy never did: it innovated.

>>386733354
>>386733386
The truth hurts, right?

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@386733230
Did you not look at the image a posted? Quarians, like Turians, have a large gap between the two fingers and don't sit next to eachother like the lazy ass photoshop displays. Because that would mean heavy editing which is far, far, far too much work for your average Bioware employee.

>>386722369
Controversial opinion : The high point of Mass Effect was Bring Down the Sky

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8YKELY9Jg0

>>386722369
>Was the final mission in Mass Effect 2 the high point of the trilogy?
No.
>Or should I say the entirety of Mass Effect 2?
Yes, 2 was the best game.
>Also how the fuck is ME still the only good western scifi rpg series?
Deus Ex and Shadowrun are better.

Citadel ending DLC was the best part of ME. Consolecucks are forever cucked out of the best sci-fi game trilogy.

>>386732613
>>386732548
hahaha holy shit I had no idea about any of this

this is GOLD

>>386733418
they innovated alright
I've never seen shittier animations than those in andromeda

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this triggers the ME1 drones

>>386722369
ME2 was so disappointing after 1 that I never even bothered to play 3, so no. It truly felt like a middle part in something that shouldn't have been a trilogy, nothing that happened was actually relevant and the characters were all forgettable besides Legion. ME2 killed the whole franchise for me and I'll never cease being mad that it's the most popular.

>>386734354
Not really

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>>386734526
Oh so you're fine with the awful gameplay

>>386734867
It's lazy and unbalanced but not really "triggering"

>>386724112
>should I save or sacrifice these politicians I don't care about?
Nah. But admittedly it feels good to let those cunts die after they've spent the whole game berating you.

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>>386722369

It used to be pretty good.

>>386722369

No, that was ME1's final mission. Most of 2 waslower than that up until Lair of the Shadow Broker. That was everything the base game needed.

>>386734354

looks good family

>>386730646
You need to be 18 to post here.

>>386734354
Looks like perfectly serviceable gameplay for a RPG
Like mass effect is, and not a shooter first and foremost

The collectors were such a cool villain, they would have been perfect if they weren't just pawns of the reapers, but instead a representation of what happens when a civilization tinkers with reaper technology they don't understand.

>>386731090
>all of their issues are happening at the same time
Samara'd been tracking Morinth down for years and finds a lead thanks to Shepard.
Grunt has hit puberty when you recruit him, so the problems caused by it couldn't be avoided.
Jack, Kasumi and Zaeed simply decide to solve their long-lasting problems now because Shepard is there to be used.
I agree about the rest.

>>386732531
Why not? The rights to ME characters belong to Bioware. Using fan art lets them pay their designers less. It's a clever loophole.

>>386735693
>Sovereign spends years trying to figure out what the fuck went wrong, then recruiting geth to try fixing it
>when he had a group of slaves with vastly superior tech already to hand
It becomes more painfully obvious that the writers of 2 didn't give a shit bout 1.
Adding in that there was a reaper AI in the citadel all along, making Sovereign utterly pointless, was just salt in the wound

>>386736231
>Adding in that there was a reaper AI in the citadel all along, making Sovereign utterly pointless, was just salt in the wound
I never thought about that. Fuck me this story is bad.

>>386736231
Did Sovereign had authority over the Collectors? I thought Harbinger was in charge of them.

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>>386731628
YES

>>386736418
It would be pretty dumb to send Sovereign if he didn't.

>>386732541
Cerberus should've remained a Cobra knockoff

>>386734354
legit looks better than 2 in every way

>>386730758
It's fucking crazy how half of the quests are about parent - child issues. It's like the writer has a trauma or something.

>>386722369
ME2 is a prime example for how important interesting characters are in a video game. The overall story makes no sense and is just a useless filler which doesn't do anything except to explain how Cerberus got so ridiculous powerful and evil in ME3, but the Loyalty missions are mostly the best written pieces in video game history since 2005.

Also the Shadow Broker DLC, good stuff.

>>386737473
>but the Loyalty missions are mostly the best written pieces in video game history since 2005.
How can you even think this?

>>386737473
Legion, Tali, Zaeed and Kasumi were the only ones with good loyalty missions, mmkay

>>386737628
Legion's was pretty shit too since it was the beginning of undermining the uniqueness of the geth that ME3 would go on to complete. The moral choice was retarded to boot.

>>386737628

Nah. Tali's mission was about her and her dad doing stupid shit and paying for it.

>>386733490
Hello newfriend.

>>386722369
Mass Effect 2 was decent but ME1 shits all over it.

>>386738153
Did you just call me new for pointing out Bioware's shit photoshopping skills? fucking faggot Biodrone.

>>386738772
I called you new for being unable to properly respond to a post. Candy ass.

>>386738924
Oh you mean that guy fishing for (you)'s so I did a very common thing on these boards and denied him said (you)? if you didn't know that then I'm flipping it on you and telling you to fucking lurk more.

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>>386722369
The game itself was great but the whole 100ft tall Terminator was fucking retarded and cheesy, however the structure of the final mission was great, all the upgrades and missions you'd done deciding if your crew members survive, picking specialists and fireteams to go with you

The final mission in ME3 would have been improved dramatically if it was structured the same way, it felt stupid for only 2 companions to be present in the battle despite having like 6 or 7 to choose from, I felt like they should have been at least visible in the background like in the archives in the Citadel DLC, or at least you could hear their radio chatter

I always end up bringing Garrus and Tali for every final mission anyway

>>386730049
RPG elements weren't nerfed much. Some stuff was combined, but the only thing that was really lost is the hacking skill.

>>386730816
I don't see how ME2 is step downwards. It does a few things worse, but the overall package makes ME1 look like amateur shit in comparison.

>>386722369
ME2 is the point where the series started capitalizing on ME1's established story and lore, while introducing a ton of issues with the plot. ME2 is the high point because inertia got it there, and everything it did on top of ME3 caused quality to plummet back down.

>>386730758
>projecting, the post

Anon, just because you have massive daddy issues because he assraped you every day for 10 years doesn't mean that every character in fictions suffers from it.

>>386722369
>Also how the fuck is ME still the only good scifi rpg series?
Ftfy

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Honestly I think ME2 is my favourite in the series, even though it's probably the shortest and has the worst RPG elements (although they're not outright bad)
I loved the sense of building a team of some of the best in the galaxy and working towards that final mission was great, plus the fact your choices actually mattered. If you picked an unsuitable team member for a task, he/she could die. Same with upgrading your ship.

What I didn't like was the goofy reaper/machine boss.

>>386735546
>ME3 Ashley

gross

>>386740562
>everyone hates the out of the blue fetch quests in Dragon Age 2
>let's bring them back for ME3 !

>>386740257
thank fuck someone cares

>>386739717
>It does a few things worse
One of them being the story, which shits all over the original game and doesn't bring in anything new that's worthwhile. Story is important in an RPG anon. Oh yeah, stopped being an RPG too.

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>>386740636
>best character
>restricted to day one dlc

>>386739973
He's right tho. The only loyalty mission with no daddy issue lmao is Garrus.

>>386740958
Prerequisites of being an RPG doesn't mean having a skill system that is the textbook definition of stat bloat

ME2 failed as an RPG when it forces you to go down Paragon or Renegade to unlock speech options and interrupts for them

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>>386740636
I hate what they did with the protheans. In ME1 they're these fucking monsters yet there's something oddly elegant about them, in ME2 we're told the collectors are horribly mutated versions, unrecognisable due to how much their DNA has been altered over the years, ME3 they look almost exactly like these "unrecognisable" Collectors.

ME3 fucked everything.

>>386740958
I disagree completley. ME1 was the shiny space opera, ME2 is the dirty space TV series. Personally I loved the underside of the universe, all the neon and horror, getting a little lose and chilling with Cerberus free from the military, you're no soldier you're Space Bond. While it's irrelevant to the large scale plot, it was vital in the construction of the universe it's set it.

I will say that it would have faired better as a stand alone addition to the series though, Where you create another Spectre of any species and investigate.

>>386741326
>Prerequisites of being an RPG doesn't mean having a skill system that is the textbook definition of stat bloat
Indeed, but that's better than what ME2 had, which was nothing.

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>>386741240
>Tali being upset when her father dies is having daddy issues

>>386741413
>hurr durr my dad revives geth because he thinks i want my home back

>>386741360
>While it's irrelevant to the large scale plot, it was vital in the construction of the universe it's set it.
Totally, it would be great material for a spinoff. Or better yet, have this focus on this aspect of the universe while actually moving the trilogy's plot forward. They're not mutually exclusive.

>>386734982
The right thing would be to save them though.
Not that I saved them but if you were a real good guy you would.

>>386739973
Oh, so you don't have any arguments left?

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>>386741513
That will always be one of my greatest annoyances about the series. It had so much potential to be expanded, had EA not been the ultimate Jew they could have handed licenses out to different developers and we could have had all kinds of games set in the universe, none "canon" but all taking advantage of the lore and universe available. But instead we get ME:A.

Mass Effect is probably the most frustrating video game series for me